The Refreshingly Normal Podcast with Kēfla and Cree
The Refreshingly Normal Podcast
Welcome to The Refreshingly Normal Podcast, where real life meets real laughs. We are Kēfla and Lucrecia (Cree), a married couple of 22 years, long-time educators, and now stepping into the world of mental health counseling. Think of us as your favorite Unc and Auntie of the podcast world, keeping it honest, heartfelt, and hilariously human.
We’re also proud parents of twin young men who just turned 21 and are officially stepping into adulthood, which means paying their own bills (finally!). From raising kids to letting go, we’re navigating this new chapter with the same mix of love, humor, and a little side-eye.
Each week, we dive into the ups and downs of parenting, love, marriage, dating, and everything in between, served with a side of humor and practical wisdom. Whether we’re sharing lessons from the classroom, stories from our travels, or awkward moments at the gym or dinner table, one thing’s for sure, we keep it refreshingly normal.
So grab a cup of coffee (or a protein shake) and join the conversation. It’s therapy meets kitchen table talk… and you’re invited.
The Refreshingly Normal Podcast with Kēfla and Cree
What Happens To Kids When We Remove Every Hard Thing
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Episode 40 starts with our usual check-in, but it quickly turns into one of those conversations that sticks with you. We’re talking about heavy weeks, supporting people through grief, and how easy it is to carry everyone else’s emotions home with you. Then we pivot into a story we can’t stop thinking about: Shay Taylor Allen worked as a janitor at Yale New Haven Hospital for 10 years and later returned to that same hospital as a doctor after matching into anesthesiology. It’s a feel-good reminder to respect every role, stay consistent, and never assume you know someone’s future.
From there, we go deeper into parenting advice and “therapy time” reflections, especially the idea that the hardest part of parenting isn’t the exhaustion. It’s realizing you can’t control how your child experiences the world, only how you show up in it. We break down lawnmower parenting, why overprotecting can block resilience, and how explaining the “why” builds trust more than “because I said so” ever will. If you care about raising confident kids, healthy communication, and real emotional growth, this part is for you.
Of course, we keep it Refreshingly Normal with a word game, side-eye moments, and our “Believe It” stories, including a wild prostate dinner mix-up and the unbelievable cocaine hippos linked to Pablo Escobar’s legacy in Colombia. We wrap with gratitude, what we’re looking forward to, and what we want from you next. Subscribe, share this with a friend, and leave a review, then tell us what you want us to talk about next.
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Welcome Back And Family Banter
SPEAKER_05The Refreshingly Normal Podcast.
SPEAKER_06I knew you was gonna say that. All right, all right, all right.
SPEAKER_02Said it before.
SPEAKER_07Okay, don't you ever say another song before? Don't you ever say um any he or don't ever say uh song. It don't matter.
SPEAKER_02That's who I am.
SPEAKER_07Okay, no, they ain't gonna wanna hear that. You done say it. Put your foot in your mouth now. Welcome back, everyone. Thank you for tuning in to the Refreshingly Normal podcast. I am Kefla.
SPEAKER_02I am Koree.
SPEAKER_07And we are the dynamic duo known as the Hares.
SPEAKER_02Sure are.
SPEAKER_07That's right. It's a there's a couple of them. You got my older brother and his brother. It's a lot of hairs.
SPEAKER_02Child, he can go out forever. It's a million dollars.
SPEAKER_07I'm talking about, I'm talking about within my family.
SPEAKER_02Oh.
SPEAKER_07Yes. And then you got my younger brother and his wife. They're known as the Hares.
SPEAKER_02And that's it.
SPEAKER_07And then that's it.
SPEAKER_00And your dad and your mother.
SPEAKER_07Oh, and my mom and my dad are known as the Hares.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_07And of course my uncle and them, but you know, hey, we're talking about the immediates. And it really ain't that many. Well, yeah. It is. I mean, no, I tell you that. My cousin John. Yes. Yes. And then Nod and his cousin. Okay, yes, child. So uh yeah. That was my crazy.
SPEAKER_02You know what? Rabbits.
SPEAKER_07That's right. We're all old. Hey, what do rabbits do?
SPEAKER_02That's what I know.
SPEAKER_07They multiply.
SPEAKER_02They do.
SPEAKER_07That's right. Better be glad we didn't multiply.
SPEAKER_02I ain't got to worry about that.
SPEAKER_07Yes, you did. I was a one-hit acquitter.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. That's why I was a one and acquitter.
SPEAKER_07So the one and only town, baby. Yeah, one and only town. Yeah, baby. Two out of two. They guys. Right there, baby. Yeah. All right. So
A Heavy Week In Therapy Work
SPEAKER_07um today's a nice day outside. Beautiful. Started off with uh you waking up and getting ready to go to uh therapies.
SPEAKER_02Yep, I went to therapies this morning. Um, and uh this week has been a full, full, full clients got all showed up.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, got back on schedule.
SPEAKER_02I think well, I did have um um just one that canceled this week. But other than that, they were all present and accounted for.
SPEAKER_06Here, here.
SPEAKER_02And um, so busy week with them. Um, and this was probably, I will say. Okay, say with my eyes the most challenging week as a therapist this week.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, I can see it.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it was. Yeah, this week was wearing it, and I think it's because it was layered with work.
SPEAKER_07So with the layer with the luteal phase.
SPEAKER_04Isn't that the layer?
SPEAKER_02That might be it too. Yep, yep. It was just so it was layered with that, and then my therapy. Oh, my people just and then at work we had um, I had some crisis things this week. Maybe week um some deaths, and then someone struggling with death, and so just being all the things to support people going through hard, hard things. That's right. So, anyhow, that was a full week of doing that. Um, and then spent the week with my team. Four of us are going to present at a conference in Savannah this summer, and so we spent the week working on our presentation. So we think we well that's the 30th through the second, yeah. Yeah, um, so we be we will be presenting at this. I want to say it's a school climate conference for the state of Georgia or just an area? Hmm, that's a good question. Um, not sure. But it's the school climate conference. We went last year. Um, and so this year we were gonna go anyways, but we um took it up a notch and we will be presenters.
SPEAKER_07Well, so you were attendees and now you are presenters.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. And you know what? I just imagine this, just imagine a goal for me. I really want to be like a keynote speaker at a conference. Okay, well. I think I'll do well with that. We'll do it. But I probably need to get a little bit more accolades um for somebody to desire to have me as no, you just gotta have the right person in charge that believes in you and put you forward.
SPEAKER_07Because there's a lot of people that are that are keynote speakers that we have seen.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_07And you're like, because accolades don't mean Jack.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_07Anybody can get an accolade. Like you can give yourself, oh, they won this and they are this, they have been nominated. Like, okay, and that pertains to me how. Yeah. And then they get up in front of somebody, and a lot of times all keynote speakers do at conferences are selling books.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. I don't have a book to sell. Right. But my my keynote would be about philosophy. Yeah, as the philosophy. And I'm not a person who toots their own horn.
SPEAKER_07So I do that, baby.
SPEAKER_02Oh.
SPEAKER_07Two now.
SPEAKER_02Oh my gosh. So I don't know. Anywho, I'm just that's something I would love to be able to have the opportunity to do. But um, and so that I spent spending the week doing that. So this week was a heavy emotional week. Um, even though it wasn't I'm not, I don't have the hard things that the people that I dealt with, but just be empathizing with them. Because as a therapist, you don't turn off your emotions and that sort of thing. So that to me made it a heavy week. So, but other than that, I'm alive and well. There you go. I made it through, and so um, yeah, I made it through, but I will tell you, this was a busy week. And something
Getting Banned From Hotels
SPEAKER_02I learned this week. What you learned that you can be banned. You can get banned from specific hotels and places. So y'all act right when you in places, yeah.
SPEAKER_07Uh like the no fly, what's it called? No fly list.
SPEAKER_02You could be on a no-stay list, honey. I ain't know that.
SPEAKER_07Not us, guys.
SPEAKER_02Not us.
SPEAKER_07Not us. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02But child, that was a part of my week that had me running crazy. People on milk folks. Goodness gracious. I didn't even know that was a thing. And I'm talking about like it could be Hilton, and you banned uh uh out of all the Hilton's in the United States of America.
SPEAKER_07I could, but but the thing is, I can understand a Hilton, you know, uh W.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_07The one hotel, uh Intercontinental, but Motel Six.
SPEAKER_02How you get how you get they supposed to leave light on for you. How you get banned from the Motel Six in all of the United States of America? Hey, it's possible. They didn't everybody can get. Listen, it's possible y'all behave yourselves out there so you don't limit where you can stay. Okay. That was my week.
Sinus Drama Dentist Visits And Gym Plans
SPEAKER_02How about your week?
SPEAKER_07That's your uh, what's the thing like to know? You know, the little things that come on. A little banner. Yeah. Things you should know. Um, my week was uh was good. You know, it was um it was just I don't know. It was just it was this week was just like chill for you. Yeah. The first part I was because I kind of had my sinus attack.
SPEAKER_02Oh, the sinus.
SPEAKER_07Sinus attack when I came back from LA because I came back Monday.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_07And so I was off.
SPEAKER_02You got a sinus attack.
SPEAKER_07Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Cha.
SPEAKER_07Jumped on me. Because I was I was chilling.
SPEAKER_02Next thing no, that's the sinus just went to your neck.
SPEAKER_07And got me in my in my in my eye right here.
SPEAKER_02Had my whole left my little incisors.
SPEAKER_07Gotcha. I couldn't even chew right.
SPEAKER_02Cha.
SPEAKER_07I went to the uh then Tuesday I was at work.
SPEAKER_02And who said you didn't take yourself to the urgent cap?
SPEAKER_07Yeah. And I went after I got I got to school and I had to stand up a few times and got lightheaded. So I look around like this.
SPEAKER_04I said, Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_07I got on my phone in the hallway.
SPEAKER_02Oh, so you didn't listen to me.
SPEAKER_07Huh? I did. I heard you. I listened. Okay. And then, you know, that and that was like a team effort. You and the lightheadedness was a team that said, okay, let me go ahead and go to the urgent care.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_07So I got my little permit, got my little uh penicillin or whatever it was, and uh a little uh prednisone.
SPEAKER_02You look much better.
SPEAKER_07I feel much better. And um, you know, got my little Wayne, my little lean.
SPEAKER_02Oh, we got some lean.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, dry me up.
SPEAKER_02All right, dry you up.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, for some reason when I took it, I started, dug little Wayne talk. You know, he talk like this now. I'll talk like that for a minute.
SPEAKER_02That Wayne took his esophagus out.
SPEAKER_07Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I mean the little Wayne. I mean the little the lean.
SPEAKER_07That lean took him a little bit.
SPEAKER_02Took his whole esophagus out.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, but I no, I feel I feel much better. Um today. I mean, uh, I didn't go to the gym this week. That I missed that part.
SPEAKER_02Because you're sick.
SPEAKER_07Yeah. Um no, I did not.
SPEAKER_02No, I did I run? Yes. You did run because you told me about it.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, I ran Wednesday. I ran Wednesday. Um and then um kind of took a little out of me.
SPEAKER_02Uh-huh, because doing two merch.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, I ran Wednesday and I came back and just chilled out. But uh, I'm going back Monday strong. Hitting the hitting the gym strong. We're gonna do a little Pilates tomorrow.
SPEAKER_04Yes.
SPEAKER_07We're gonna try some Pilates tomorrow, and um I cut the grass today. Thank God. Finally used my new lawnmower. I thought I wasn't gonna use it because it rained, and I was like, oh, you don't want to, you know, use the lawnmower in wet grass because it bogs it down. And I was like, man, our grass is high in the backyard. Um, but it's a new lawnmower, powerful lawnmower. My wife gave me the green light to get what I needed.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_07And it works very good. All right. Yep. Yep, yep, yep.
SPEAKER_02Oh, I I also went to the dentist. So if you're like, hmm, did Creek get Botox on one side of her face?
SPEAKER_07They ain't gonna say that. No.
SPEAKER_02I went to the dentist, and my face is still sore. When did I go?
SPEAKER_07They're gonna think you're chewing tobacco. I knew it. I knew that she from Kansas. You chew that tobacco.
SPEAKER_02Um, you went was it the same day I went to Wednesday. Was it Wednesday? Yeah. It was Wednesday because Thursday I was running around like a fool. It was Wednesday. Yeah. Wednesday morning. I went Wednesday morning, and um, yeah, they mm-mm. I'm still sore.
SPEAKER_07Yeah.
SPEAKER_02That's why I'm not sure.
SPEAKER_07You put you didn't put no ice on it. I told you to put ice on it.
SPEAKER_02Do not enjoy the dentist. I had to get a crown back here.
SPEAKER_07The main reason we don't enjoy the dentist is because they that insurance don't be insurancing. Yeah. It don't make sense.
SPEAKER_02No, I hate going because dentists. Whoever been to the dentist other than cleaning and it don't hurt. It always hurts.
SPEAKER_07It does, but I rather I I'd rather put my teeth. I hope that's what I said.
SPEAKER_02So just do what you gotta you do what you gotta jail.
SPEAKER_07I hope I don't ever have to get the uh veneers.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_07But who knows? I'll get them before I walk around looking.
SPEAKER_02Snagger teeth.
SPEAKER_07Empty mouth, yeah. I sure will.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Well, just make sure you don't get the ones, uh the same ones that uh King got.
SPEAKER_07Oh no, where they're all the same size.
SPEAKER_02They were big.
SPEAKER_07Like 32 molars in his mouth.
SPEAKER_02They were so big. I think he got it fixed now because I don't notice him looking so big. Oh no. But when he first got them, woo, woo!
SPEAKER_07I'm gonna see if they could get me some veneers with braces on them. And you're doing just be like, hey, we got veneer, and you know what I'm saying, all in one veneer braces.
SPEAKER_02Guess what? Y'all gonna say, we don't never see Kree and Key together no more.
SPEAKER_07Oh, they're gonna say, yeah, he had them on eight, nine, ten years ago, the same braces.
SPEAKER_02The team is already straight. I'll be like, he at home with his braces. He at home with his braces. That's where he is.
SPEAKER_07But I sure get them before I have a snag of mouth, though. No, um, but I'm not going to Turkey. You know how they be going to Turkey or wherever to get the go for hair replacement. No, I saw a video of these girls went and got their mouth done for like the both of them. The whole thing, the hotel, the flight, and everything was less than uh both of them to get $5,000. When they, you know, get out and they take care of them for a little bit, make sure everything, follow-up appointment. Yeah. But you know, oh um, international insurance is way better than the United States anyway.
SPEAKER_02So that's why they were- What wait, wait, wait. You they can't go over there and get insurance.
SPEAKER_07No, they pay out of pocket.
SPEAKER_02Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, you mean not insurance, but medical care. I say insurance. Yeah.
SPEAKER_07Oh, my bad. The medical, medical, yeah, the medical care, I'm sorry. Um, but that's one of the reasons. Remember in Oh, that's money calling. Remember in the media where people were there was I guess the what what do you want to call it? The the government was saying that they're prohibiting doctors from coming over here getting education, then leaving, going back and taking it back because of that reason.
SPEAKER_02Oh, because people go over there to get their work.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, because they like, we yeah, we get trained here, but we're going back what we can actually do right by our profession, as opposed to make everybody else rich off of our skill set and then punish, you know, the people that we're taking care of. And so uh, you know, they're trying to, oh no, uh, you better use all that. You better work and do slave like we want y'all to.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_07But uh anyway, uh what's what's uh and then today I for some reason I just wanna go get some small bite today and just people watch for about you know a couple minutes.
SPEAKER_02Small bite, people watch.
SPEAKER_07I don't know.
SPEAKER_02Let's do it.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, but you know, I don't know. Somewhere, somewhere different or or the same, like maybe untapped, just somewhere is it untapped? Yeah, okay, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, sometimes, yeah. It's been kind of the same. I I think I might want to go somewhere else.
Episode 40 And The Lotus Painting
SPEAKER_07Yeah. So, what episode is this?
SPEAKER_02It's episode 40.
SPEAKER_07Hey, you see the this is a different painting. Kimani did this one off.
SPEAKER_02It is a lotus flower.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, and then Lotus Flowers represents new beginnings. So 40 new beginnings. Yeah, I want this tattoo. Um, but Kimani, uh, this is a textured paintings, and the other one painting was done by Kimani as well. Um, this is one of my favorite ones. I asked him to make this one for me.
SPEAKER_02And uh that's not my favorite one.
SPEAKER_07This is this is like because I'm a I'm huge into the meditation and you know, centering, grounding, all that stuff. So whenever, anytime I see this, like this is my healing painting. Like, honestly. Um it's right by my little meditation, little wall over here in the side. And uh it's very I love this one to death. I love all of his paintings. Yeah, but I think because when I asked him, he did it. And he put yeah, and he he put so much effort. Yeah, like this is me. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_02Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_07Everything about this is me.
SPEAKER_02So this is uh my favorite for him is the one with the hand reaching out. It's going um, it's a little bit, it's bigger than this, but it goes um horizontal, not vertical. But he has his hand that's kind of reaching out. I don't, and it has all these different um textures, like there's a sand.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Um, it's beautiful. I don't know if it's in his room or in his dorm where he put it, but um beautiful. He is just yeah.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, I got a few more that he done for me. And um, even the one his his practice ones, I'm like, no, I need those. Like, it's so dope. Um and so just I'm I'm trying to find I wish I had just a room where I can put them all up. Put them all.
SPEAKER_02We need to start just taking them and then like I told you, that was one of my things, but I know it's gonna change up some things, but I just would like would like to start just doing different art everywhere.
SPEAKER_07I mean, I think we can't like to meet art, there's no rhyme or reason. It just needs to be up.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. That's what I really want to do.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, like, oh, this doesn't float and look. It's put it up there.
SPEAKER_02Like I saw on TikTok this couple, um, and um they both are artists, and they had their kids kind of guess how many how many art pieces are up in their home, and they had like over a hundred and something different art pieces, some that they purchased that are other people's, some that are theirs. The kids are like getting into art now, and um, they had just so many beautiful art pieces just everywhere in the bedrooms and different places. But yeah, I want to be able to have art up like that. I think it'd be nice.
SPEAKER_07I would love to put them up, but I think I just hate when we gotta put all the holes in the wall. I wanna you know I was I would I wonder if you can put them up the same way, like those what we say, those tile photos are, you know, the magnetic whatever.
SPEAKER_02I bet you can.
SPEAKER_07Yeah. But then I'm like, how does the magnetic part go on to the actual wall without destroying the wall itself? Stripping it.
SPEAKER_02I don't know.
SPEAKER_07You don't have to research that. Yeah, but Miss Producer.
SPEAKER_02Well, yeah, today I kind of put did the lineup. Well, it still was a coordinated effort because the stories are all stories that were by the research team. By the research team. Uh, so uh uh yeah, it's still a team effort.
Janitor To Yale Doctor Feel Good Story
SPEAKER_02So our first thing we're gonna talk about is a feel good story, yeah.
SPEAKER_06It feels good, it feels good.
SPEAKER_02All right, so this story, you might have already heard it, but there was a young lady, her name was Shay Taylor Allen, and she was a janitor at Yale Hospital for 10 years. Um, just to, I think it was like paying her way through theirs as Shay Taylor Allen's dreams came true on March 20th. The Howard University College of Medicine student was matched into anesthesiology residency program at Yale New Haven Hospital, the same hospital where she was born and later worked as a janitor for 10 years.
SPEAKER_07What doesn't her mother work there or something?
SPEAKER_02Um, it says that was her number one match, so she was happy to come back in in a different space. Um I don't know. I'm trying to look see if her mom worked there. Um that's so cool. Yeah, but the but the idea of being a janitor in a hospital, and you know what the what it what it made me think about was um some people look down on people in those roles. Oh, definitely. So I think of even when I've worked in schools and different places, how people treat the custodians and janitors, the lunch ladies, the um paras, teachers' assistants, um, and the idea that she was working towards something.
SPEAKER_05You never know what they'd work towards.
SPEAKER_02You never know. And the idea that a place where she would consider to be loaded, probably the lowest on the totem pole to actually go back in that space to be a doctor.
SPEAKER_07Like I mean probably over some of those people that were not so kind to her.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. So um somebody just said that. Oh, when I went to Kimani's honors convocation, the the man that was the speaker said, be careful how you treat people um going up because you'll have to see them going down if you go down or something like that. Is that the phrase? But the idea of if you were a person that mistreated her, made her feel like not much, the idea that now she's in such um an amazing role. I wonder how many people were like, You doing what?
SPEAKER_07Mm-hmm. Or once they got there, say, What are you doing with that jacket on?
SPEAKER_02Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_07You suppose oh, or excuse me, was it name Shay? Can you come and empty this out, please?
SPEAKER_06Um I'm sorry. I see my coat. Uh sorry.
SPEAKER_02Excuse me, you mean Dr. Shay?
SPEAKER_06Yeah, I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_02I'm Dr. Shay.
SPEAKER_07What or parking? I used to tell my people with parking spaces. Um, you you're not supposed to be parked. That's for doctors and residents only. Um, excuse me. I'm Dr. Shay.
SPEAKER_02Oh, well, she's anesthesiology. Is that Dr. Shay?
SPEAKER_07Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_02Knock you out, child. Okay. I don't know if they because if they're a good thing. Well, they could.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, but hopefully she is.
SPEAKER_02Because I don't know if they're always the doctor.
SPEAKER_07Some of them are not, yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Either way.
SPEAKER_07But if I don't know if you in the match program, though, if you match, I think that's big turn. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Because she has her white jacket.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, she might be Dr. Shea.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, she says they said returning as a doctor.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, that's Dr. Shea right there. That's what I'm about to say. She's the what they call Lee Anesthesia.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_07She's the one that they just call every now and she only worked that long.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_07They make that money.
SPEAKER_02And in this uh Go ahead, Shay. And in this uh article, they showed her picture when she was a janitor there next to her in her white coat. You better do it, girl. You better do it, Shay.
SPEAKER_07Because I'm always cool with the janitors wherever I am.
SPEAKER_02Well, listen, I treat everybody. Me too. It doesn't matter.
SPEAKER_07It don't matter.
SPEAKER_02No matter what your role is, I'm treating you the same.
SPEAKER_01Yep.
SPEAKER_02Now, um, for the for those who are in higher positions who don't know how to act.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I'm professional.
SPEAKER_05Yeah.
SPEAKER_02But um I got my eyes on you. Know that.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, it's not your role that makes me change the way I treat you.
SPEAKER_02It doesn't. It's how you treat others. How you treat others.
SPEAKER_07How you behave.
SPEAKER_02How you behave. That is exactly right. So that is exactly right.
SPEAKER_07Feel good for Shay. You ever had a feel-good situation like that?
Coming Back To Prove People Wrong
SPEAKER_02For myself?
SPEAKER_07Yeah. Where, you know, something you came back and you had your not necessarily like a redemption moment, but a moment of Oh, I do.
SPEAKER_02I well, when I was in my junior year of college, um, I went to sub at a school, and my favorite elementary principal was still the principal. Oh, okay. Mr. Breckinridge. He's a black man. So you know that. Breckinridge. Yeah. Black Breckinridge. Yeah, he was his name was Mr. Breckinridge.
SPEAKER_07He wore them jackets with the uh suede on the elbow.
SPEAKER_02I think he is.
SPEAKER_07I bet Breckinridge, that's a suede elbow uh wearing brother.
SPEAKER_02He was the best elementary principal there was, and he now I forgot I I feel bad because I don't really share the story about him as much. I always talk about the people that was trifling. But um he um there was I had a favorite sweater of his, and every time I wear it, he said, There you go, my favorite sweater.
SPEAKER_07But when I went breaking reads, sweater, see there, he likes sweater.
SPEAKER_02And so then when I went back to to sub, and um, it was either my junior year or the fall of my senior year. Um, I went back and he was the principal there, and some of the teachers that were my teachers and elementary were there, and they were like, Oh my gosh, look, Chris, we're so excited to see you. So, yeah, that would be that for me, I think. What about for you?
SPEAKER_07Mine was when I went back to my high school um to speak um when I was on MTV. Oh and uh it was it was so cool because uh all the kids um watched it. Some kids didn't even know I was you know from Foley because they probably missed the very first episode when they said from Foley. And then, you know, the kind of news spread, and they did a little newspaper article, and some people kind of knew. Um and but when I came to the school, it was like he used to play baseball, he played soccer, played football, and all this stuff. And and you know, I I didn't come out, and so you know, yeah, and they was just talking and talking. And it was so cool because uh Renee was the one that wanted me to come speak, Ms. Daniel. And so some of the people, you know, that was there didn't, didn't want one, didn't expect us to go to college, was trying to get us to go to the military, yeah. Um, or get just get a job. And I had good grades, you know, and my parents were gonna help pay for it. And so I didn't even, when I went, I just went and spoke to Renee. I didn't even go and speak to the other teachers. Because I was like, I'm gonna just chill. And they just talking it up. Um Renee was speaking about, you know, he's doing this, he's on television, traveling in the world, and you can see him now on MTV, and you can hear the because the kids say, What? What MTV? He's on every, she's there every day on MTV, whatever. And uh she said, bringing out, you know, Mr. Kefla Hare. And I walk out, and because you know, some of the kids, I've been gone for a while, you know, kids didn't know, and but when they saw my face, oh my, I know him, I know him, oh man, that's all and you can just hear him, the snakes and the crackers, all that stuff. Uh-huh. And you see those teachers, they was like, they just looking at those particular ones. Their face was just so just and that gave me the biggest joy.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_07Oh, the biggest joy for you to say I couldn't do nothing, da-da-da, and here I am, almost finished with school.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_07And, you know, doing all this stuff on television, all these kids going crazy and stuff, and saying, um, you know, and then when it was over with, just signing autographs in the gym, taking the little click pictures, um, you know, stuff like that, the kids that did have them. And uh, it was just that was my moment of, you know, coming back after you telling me I couldn't, we weren't gonna do nothing and all that stuff. And some of those coaches sabotaging, keeping letters from coaches and schools, you know, about scholarships and stuff, not showing them to me until after the deadline. Uh-huh. And so that was that was an amazing time.
SPEAKER_02That makes me think of the video I saw Cardi B when she was on uh Yes.
SPEAKER_07Uh was it Love and Hip Hop? I loved it.
SPEAKER_02Well, she said, Oh, you and then the lady that was commentating, she was like, Who are you talking to? And she's like, I'm talking to her.
SPEAKER_07Oh, big beep.
SPEAKER_02And she, of course, is card in Cardi B fashion. She got lots of four-letter words to say. And it was a teacher there that told her that she wasn't going to amount to anything but being a stripper. Yeah. And but the teacher was there now watching her. And I'm sure she was like telling me, Oh, that used to be my student, this and this and this and that. And never saying that she told her that. And I it that to me, like, teachers have so much power. There's so much power in your words and impact. And so for some of us, like me, um, and maybe it's just who I am or how my parents are, I don't know. But if you tell me I can't do something, then I'm like, oh, I'm gonna do it. Just so I can say, in your face, I did that, right? Um, and Cardi B, we know, of course, same way. And so the idea of her being able to have that moment. Um, now she she she said what she said, but that I'm sure, like for her, it was like, well, she did, she got her.
SPEAKER_07So I'm gonna tell you this you can't at 10:30 night get butt neck and run around the house, especially in the room. You can't do that.
SPEAKER_02Oh I was like, what is he even saying? Oh my god, you stupid. I'm just saying, you can't do all those things. Oh my gosh, Lord. Who did I marry? I'm about to do a uh, what's that lady that was on TikTok that said who did I marry? Tessa. Tessa, somebody, Tessa Rose. I don't know. It was a lady that married the man and he was uh he had a whole other you don't know the Tessa lady, everybody was into her. You know that long story? Yeah, oh I just yeah, who did I marry, whatever it was called?
SPEAKER_07So let's say all right, what's up?
SPEAKER_02Therapy time, therapy time. You got a song for that?
SPEAKER_07Uh let's see, therapy time.
SPEAKER_02He ain't got a song.
SPEAKER_06Therapy is the greatest time of life. It's when you learn about yourself and give them to yourself some love and kindness. Therapy time.
SPEAKER_07That's our new introduction.
SPEAKER_03Oh, I love it.
SPEAKER_07Yes.
Parenting Without Controlling The Outcome
SPEAKER_02So our therapy time this week is around parenting. Um, so therapists say that the hardest part of parenting for most people isn't the relentless exhaustion, which parenting is exhaustion. You own 24-7.
SPEAKER_07Some people are.
SPEAKER_02Yes. Well, those who the it said parenting. You gotta be parenting. Yeah. Okay. Right. Um, it's that you can't control how your child experiences the world.
SPEAKER_01That's right.
SPEAKER_02Only how you show up in it. Um, and so I remember the exact moment this landed for me. My daughter had come home from school upset about something that had happened with a friend. Nothing like awful, crazy, catastrophic.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02The ordinary social friction of childhood, the kind that resolves itself within a week.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02But she was really hurt, and I could see it, and every instinct I had was pulling for me to fix it. Um, the lawnmower apparent. Is that what that would be?
SPEAKER_07Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Helicopter lawnmower apparent. I wanted to call the other parent. I wanted to give her the perfect words to say tomorrow. I wanted to engineer a resolution that would make the hurt stop, the friendship repair, and the whole thing be over so she could go back to being okay. I didn't do any of those things. I sat with her instead and I listened. And I didn't try to fix the story or skip to the part where it gets better. It was one of the hardest things I've done as a parent. Not because sitting with her was hard, but because not fixing it was. Because every part of me that loved her was pushing me to intervene. And the truest thing I could do was resist the push. What I understood in that moment with more clarity than I'd had before is that my job isn't to stand between her and the difficult parts of the world.
SPEAKER_06That's right.
SPEAKER_02Um, so what are your thoughts on that? And then thinking about as a parent.
SPEAKER_07Well, the first thing, just uh let some people know what the lawnmower parent terminology is.
SPEAKER_02Oh, yeah, because that was well, if you should be listening, because we talked about this already, but you go tell them.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, I'm gonna tell them. I'm gonna tell them. Because you know, some people would maybe just all of a sudden say, oh, that's true, that's true, that's true.
SPEAKER_02We're we're happy that you're here. Welcome.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, definitely. Because the first few episodes we did, the sound sounded like we was in the closet.
SPEAKER_02It don't matter, we were still good.
SPEAKER_07We were still good, that's right. But a lawnmower parent is a parent that tries to think about if you're cutting the grass, you're trying to, the lawnmower uh uh pretty much uh eliminates all the trouble in front, you know. So if I mean, like, you know, cutting all the grass in front, then as my feet walk behind it, then my feet are walking in new, trimmed, perfect, manicured space. And that's what the parent is trying to do. The parent is trying to go in front of the kid and prevent so many things from happening that they don't have to experience it. That's why it's great what you said you can't um control how they experience how they show up in it. And that's even for ourselves. You know, I love that saying. Um and so you doing so, being a normal parent, the word, what is it? Uh we we don't teach them how to um resilience. Yeah, they don't learn resilience.
SPEAKER_02They don't don't, like they said here, they need um kids need to experience hard things to develop the capacity to handle them. Yeah, that's what builds resilience.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, it's like and and that's sometimes I I try to like even with Kahari, a lot of times, he when it's uh he knows it's a tough situation, he just shuts down and won't go through it to know that he can do it or to even try to manipulate it. But give him a hard game, he'll play it several times to manipulate the way to get to that through that game. And that's the the the way I try to always explain it to the kids, even at school. I say, you know, think about it. Y'all can play a game that's difficult and try to manipulate and manipulate and manipulate and manipulate until you, you know, get that successful feeling of say, oh, I beat the game. But when the game of life comes at you, y'all just want to say, forget it or get somebody else to help you. You would never let them do that for a game. And so I think, you know, um, with this situation, I definitely, you know, with with kids, uh I'm going back to middle school and I'm gonna be doing this a lot, dealing with those friendships and all that stuff.
SPEAKER_02Because middle school friends are it's the world. Highest priority.
SPEAKER_07It's the world. Because um high school, some kids may not have friends, but they may have teammates they they can talk to and all that stuff. But middle school, it's like it's not like that. It's more so your friends is your everything. And I know how the parent feels because no parent wants to see their child going through anything because you want them to, you, you know, you want to be happy and feeling good. That's just you know the the nature in us. But at the same time, it's that that fine line is like uh not not stepping in, not calling the parent, and also sometimes not telling your child what to do to get out of the situation or to help the situation.
SPEAKER_02That's hard.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, very hard. And but sometimes you can't, it's like kind of putting those little, let me put a key here to, you know, sorry, get out of the escape room. Let me give them a little clue about this, yeah. To you know, to make them think that they figured it out. Yeah. But I think if you could um I guess do, you know, certain little things like that, um, it will benefit them, but I mean benefit them, but it's it's uh it's parenting is tough.
SPEAKER_02It is. I think that's why it's so important. We think about as educators, we always talk about modeling for the students.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02I was gonna say parenting as a parent and your parenting, that's the same. And so often as parents, we say, Well, I'm an adult, I do it the way I want to do it. Don't like don't do as I do, do as I say. Do as I say, yeah. And that that should not be a thing. Um, you should be modeling what you want your kids to do in their friendships, in their relationships, all of those things because they're watching.
SPEAKER_07Yeah. Quick thing. I want to ask you this. Do you think some parents say, Don't do just I mean, or like if you say, Can I do this? Why? Because I said so. Do you think sometimes parents say that because they don't know what to say to their kid or how to um articulate the reasoning to their kid, the reason to their kid?
SPEAKER_02Um, I think sometimes I think it's a natural thing because that's how we were raised. Um our parents, we didn't ask.
SPEAKER_07Yeah.
SPEAKER_02The why. If they said we couldn't do anything, we'd be like, well, I guess I can't do it.
SPEAKER_07But sometimes you never asked your parents like why? Well, I didn't have that issue.
SPEAKER_02I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, you got to do anything anyway.
SPEAKER_02So I mean, yeah.
SPEAKER_07So that wasn't Okay, let me ask myself. So do you I I honestly do think so. I think that my parents didn't know how to speak to Well, my parents didn't know how to speak to me as a kid without making it feel like they were giving up their status of being the adult.
SPEAKER_02The hierarchy.
SPEAKER_07Right. There's a certain way you can talk to a kid to let them know, let me this is understand what I'm saying to you, son or daughter. I don't want you doing this because boom, boom, and boom.
SPEAKER_02And that what they didn't realize is how the learning that comes through the explanation, when you don't tell me, I think you just trying to keep me from fun. Yeah. Um, but then when you explain it to me, I go, oh, I didn't even think that that that was a possibility, or that was something that could happen, or then it helps me understand, oh, my parents are scared for me.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Um, and so there's a there's a fear or something that they're having. Um, and sometimes parents have to be cautious of that because that's also what they said here, too, is that we oftentimes are um I don't know, creating fear or stepping in because we are thinking our child's story is going to be similar to our story. And what we have to remember is I know for us, our boys are amazing, kind. Their character is is amazing, but they're not like us.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, no way, they're not like us.
SPEAKER_02And so for us to be trying to tell them to move in the way that we moved, well, that that I mean, that that is silly. So it is better because our and most people's children aren't like them, yeah, um, because they were raised in a different time than you, so their experiences are different than you, access to things, access to things are different, people are different, and so the idea of sitting back and allowing them to kind of maneuver here and there, and I think that creates a space for them to develop, but then it creates also the relationship between the two of you because they feel like I can come talk to you, you're not gonna make me feel bad about this, and then I'll say, Mom, I went to Susie May and I said this to her, I said this to her, and she did this back. What do you think? Then they may say, What do you think I should do next? Yeah, you know, so then they'll begin to ask you questions because you're creating a space that they say you're listening.
SPEAKER_07And when they ask, that means that somewhere down the line your advice has been beneficial to them and they, you know, they trust it. Yeah, but no, that's just thinking about that, you know, it's like um that cause I said so is you hear it so often, it's like, well, what is the said-so? And I know me, I didn't know until I got older why they said so.
SPEAKER_02And it created resentment, right?
SPEAKER_07Yeah, because I was like, I'm a good dude, I'm a good kid. You know, why I can't do X, Y, and Z. Um, but I I I understood because I looked back and all of the some of the things that I did ask that other kids were doing um didn't pan out well for them. But I think it was other uh things that were tied to it, too, you know, the support system, the, you know, but um you know, some of the things, some of those because I said so's make sense now, but I just wish I would have been explained those things because it probably would have channeled my, I'm not gonna say anger, but my thoughts towards my parents differently. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_02Well, and I'll say we have explained things more so like Kimani just hears us, Kahari is the why.
SPEAKER_07Um, and we could we explain, and even if our why don't match his reasoning, he's he's gonna do it because it's like, well, that ain't what I was thinking, so I'm gonna do it.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. And so what I'm saying is like you can sometimes explain the why, um, and they still don't understand or think we know what we're talking about because you have some of your children who have to learn from failure and learn from experience. And if that's how they choose to learn, guess what? You have just chosen a more challenging life for yourself, and it is what it is. Yeah, you there's at some point, hopefully, you let it levels out, but we can't keep them from that. And so I'm still gonna tell you the why. But we also now have the understanding of knowing now he probably gonna go and do what he wants to do, anyways. But I will say the one thing about him is he'll come back and say, Y'all was right.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, remember when y'all said such and such now. Now, he may he may not do it the moment it happened.
SPEAKER_03No, no.
SPEAKER_07He'd be like, Yeah, and that happened a long time ago. Remember when y'all said such and such? Yep, that's what like, do that's high school.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_07But hey, it happened.
SPEAKER_00It happened.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, so they will come back and he'll come back and say that. Um, the other thing to think about when you're parenting, one thing they didn't mention is that, you know, when they're little, they think mom and dad are everything. And then, and I think I found this happen this happened with um, I won't say both boys, with one boy. Um, when they get into high school and then they start to have friends and they talk um amongst about parents and what parents allow them to do and what your parents don't allow you to do. And then their image of you changes, and it feels kind of like now we some good ass parents. You know, like those things. That those parents are doing is because those parents are scared of their children. We are not scared of our children. We're gonna parent, right? And so parenting is important to us, and our goal is to raise some successful young men. Yeah, and that's what we're gonna do. However, there are parents who are scared of their children. Yeah. Um and scared of saying no. Scared of saying no. Scared they'll be mad at me. They won't want to be my friend.
SPEAKER_07You ain't supposed to be my friend.
SPEAKER_02Hello.
SPEAKER_07Supposed to be my son.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. So when as they grow into teenage years, you have those moments where they think, and then, as you say, it comes back around where they realize, oh, wait. That was their parents were crazy.
SPEAKER_07Were crazy.
SPEAKER_02They weren't doing what they were supposed to do. And we found that that is the full circle moment that somebody had to see on their own. So the thing about it is that the most important thing, like we say, don't be the lawnmower parent. Um, and sit back and let your child experience the world. And like we said before, with guardrails, and you are the guardrail, because you're not gonna let them be in extreme danger, but you're gonna let them figure out life um for themselves because there's so many parents who are afraid that their children will make the same mistakes they made. And that's part of it too. Um, but remember they aren't you.
SPEAKER_07Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, you it's uh not even mistakes.
SPEAKER_02There's some parents that want their kids to live up, some parents who were stellar or overachievering um people um children, and they want their child to be that same overachiever, and sometimes either the child doesn't have the same drive, or the child may not be as intelligent as you are.
SPEAKER_07Right. Because remember who your match was.
SPEAKER_02That's what I'm saying, depending on who you marry, or or slept with. Hello, you better think about it.
SPEAKER_07So you over there uh valedictorian and forgot who was your dictorian, right? That's what I'm saying. Yeah, you got the valedic on your side, but then the volunteer that you got from uh slow.
SPEAKER_02No, and so your child is a mix of the two. That's hey, listen.
SPEAKER_07The valedict or the volundic.
SPEAKER_02Hey, you better know it.
SPEAKER_07Hey, all right, come on now, okay.
SPEAKER_02So we hope that that helped you think about parenting and and how you will um parent and help your child along the way. Um, don't be the lawnmower parent, don't be a part-time parent.
SPEAKER_07Parenting is a full-time job. Don't stop even when people say, Hey, can you chill? I gotta keep parenting.
SPEAKER_02You gotta keep parenting. And the biggest thing, allow your child to have resilience and know that they can do hard things.
SPEAKER_07Yep. It's in them. Tell them.
Word Game To Test Our Sync
SPEAKER_07Yep.
SPEAKER_02All right, so now we're gonna play a game.
SPEAKER_07All right, let's do it.
SPEAKER_02All right, so I think we played this game before.
SPEAKER_07Okay.
SPEAKER_02I think it was at the very like start of our podcasting.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_02We've been doing this podcast together, talking more, doing the things.
SPEAKER_05All right.
SPEAKER_02Are we better connected? Are our brains better connected?
SPEAKER_05We'll see.
SPEAKER_02So this is will we guess the same word? So I'm gonna say a word and then I'm gonna say one, two, three. Let's see if we say the same word. Okay. All right, are you ready? Yep. All right, first thing. The word is snow. Okay.
SPEAKER_06Okay.
SPEAKER_02One, two, three. Man. Snow bunny? Yeah. You must be in my daddy's head. Well, your daddy likes snow bunnies. No, he's always talking about a snow bunny. Somebody got a snow bunny. All right. All right. Uh-oh. I'm nervous. All right, here we go. The word is car. One, two, three. Wash. Oh, Lord Jesus. All right. Hey, look into my brain.
SPEAKER_07I'm trying to.
SPEAKER_02All right. All right. All right. Here we go. Um, the word is beach.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_02One, two, three. Sour. Lord have mercy. All right. You ready? I'm ready. The word is strawberry. Okay. One, two, three.
SPEAKER_07Shortcake. I knew that because that was because that's what you like.
SPEAKER_02Strawberry shortcake. I love strawberry shortcake. I had two strawberry shortcake birthdays. And I like to eat strawberry shortcake. All right, here we go. Um, the word is blue.
SPEAKER_04Okay.
SPEAKER_02Right. One, two, three. Bird. You're trying to think too hard to my brain. Get out of here.
SPEAKER_07No, when you said blue, I just knew Ivy. That's okay. Yeah, blue bird. I wasn't thinking about blue bird.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
unknownAll right.
SPEAKER_07I almost said blue balls, but.
SPEAKER_02Oh, Lord. That sounds. I should have said that because that sounds like something you would say. All right. The word is dirty. All right. All right. One, two, three. Dishes. Dirty dog. Dirty dog.
SPEAKER_07Oh, dirty dog. Dirty dog. That lady called me a dirty dog for not giving her no money.
SPEAKER_02We only have one together, Rora. All right. All right, here we go. The word is paper.
SPEAKER_07Okay.
SPEAKER_02All right. One, two, three. Chow. Paper trail.
SPEAKER_07You leave a paper trail. Find you every time.
SPEAKER_02What in the world? Alright, here we go. The next one is the word is turtle. Okay. One, two, three.
SPEAKER_07Turd. Turtle turd. Yes. Turtle turd. Turtle turd is like that one that you sitting on and it just won't come out. It's just stay there. Uh-uh. That's what a turtle turd is.
SPEAKER_02I ain't never heard of a turtle. Leave it to doo-doo bed over here. Doo-doo struggle. He had a turtle right now. Listen, my turds, I still have to be.
SPEAKER_07It's a turtle, it's a turtle head. You never heard somebody say that?
SPEAKER_02I never heard of a turtle turd.
SPEAKER_07Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Okay. If you heard of a turtle turd, will we post this snippet? Put a turtle. Put a turtle on there. Put a turtle on there.
SPEAKER_07If y'all know what a turtle turd is, put a turtle on there.
SPEAKER_02Oh.
SPEAKER_07Or you can put a turtle in the and the uh the crap emoji, both of them.
SPEAKER_02All right, here we go. All right, we got two more. The word is picture.
SPEAKER_07All right.
SPEAKER_02One, two, three. Picture pages.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, remember picture pages, picture pages, time to do your picture pages, time to get your creepy pages. And your pencils. Picture pages, picture pages, time to do the picture pages. Come and watch McCosby do a picture page with you.
SPEAKER_02All right, remember that. All right, last one. The word is book.
SPEAKER_07Okay, let's do it.
SPEAKER_02All right. One, two, three. Marker.
SPEAKER_07A book in. A bookshelf. I guess we ain't in sync. We ain't. Bye bye bye.
SPEAKER_03Did they sing that song?
SPEAKER_07Oh, dude. One of them did. One of the white groups did.
SPEAKER_02Was that in sync of uh one of them some bye-bye bye?
SPEAKER_07Hey, we are out of sync.
SPEAKER_02All right, y'all. We have believe it. Uh-oh.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, look at that.
Green Flags Gone Wrong Stories
SPEAKER_02Believe it, sister.
SPEAKER_07We got hands today because last few beliefs, so we was nubbing.
SPEAKER_02Now listen. Believe it, sister. Somebody keeps wanting to focus on. Somebody keeps wanting to focus. Now no, no, let me finish. Somebody.
SPEAKER_00Go ahead.
SPEAKER_02If y'all know the last few times we didn't talked about animals and cocaine. His believer.
SPEAKER_07It was only one animal and cocaine. The other the little man you call, so now you call the little man a little beaver or something. What kind of animal?
SPEAKER_02He ain't no beaver. He ain't no beaver. I don't.
SPEAKER_07He be a snake. No, no, because he ain't got he don't move. You can't move with just a if you're a salamander.
SPEAKER_02A salamander.
SPEAKER_07No, because they can move a torso.
SPEAKER_02He got nubs.
SPEAKER_07But he can't.
SPEAKER_02Well, last week we talked about a paraplegic.
SPEAKER_07Quadriplegic.
SPEAKER_02I mean quadruple. Paraplegic.
SPEAKER_07No, he's quadruple. We kept saying paraplegic. Oh, he's a quadruple. But he's a quadriplegic.
SPEAKER_02Okay, quadriplegic.
SPEAKER_07Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And uh he was doing um cocaine upside down.
SPEAKER_07Yep.
SPEAKER_02Then we talked about shark and cocaine. This one now has a story about hippos and cocaine.
SPEAKER_07Hey, it came up. Cocaine is a hell of a drug. So we're gonna let it.
SPEAKER_02So I guess today we got two believe it's sisters. Okay, talk about your hippo.
SPEAKER_07So I don't know. You could have had the story produced by it.
SPEAKER_02Okay, I got you.
SPEAKER_07Was it in Japan? I think it was. But I was just thinking that hey.
SPEAKER_02You want me to go with my story first since we don't have yours? No, I mean you can. Okay, go ahead.
SPEAKER_07Because you know, we film it with the phone.
SPEAKER_02So okay. So my story was a lady that thought this man, it's called uh a green flag that turned to a red flag.
SPEAKER_07Oh, this one I sent.
SPEAKER_02Oh so she was dating this guy, and he was given all green flags. He was the green flag was the one that was like, oh, he's so amazing. He cooked this dinner for cooked dinner for her. Healthy person. Healthy person. He's like, he made this healthy meal for her, and it's gonna help this certain part of her body. She was like, oh man, look at him. He knows I'm healthy. He's worried about he's worried about my body. He's cooked me a special meal that's for a specific part of my body.
SPEAKER_06He's so good to me.
SPEAKER_02He's so good to me, girl. I mean, he went and bought special ingredients for this special part of my body.
SPEAKER_07What he said, I ain't say yet. Go ahead, keep going. I'm just the other guy.
SPEAKER_02And and and so she's like, girl, I don't know. But when I go over there, he's gonna let me know. He's gonna let me know what part of the body um that he is making this meal for me. Yeah, girl, no, I'm still trying to get there, but as soon as I get there, I'm gonna text you. I'm gonna text you and tell you what was the part of the body that he um did this for. And um girl.
SPEAKER_07Hey, I made this meal for you.
SPEAKER_02Uh, excuse me. What well what what's so special about this meal?
SPEAKER_07Well, you I know you're in the fitness. Yes, this meal is perfect for you. Oh my god, it helps you, it strengthens you on the inside.
SPEAKER_02Oh my god. Yes, you're so thoughtful.
SPEAKER_07It's very good. It's gonna strengthen your prostate.
SPEAKER_02My who?
SPEAKER_07You're a prostate. My prostate? You're the one you have on the inside.
SPEAKER_02I don't have a prostate.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, you everybody has a prostate.
SPEAKER_02No, no, no. No, not everybody has a prostate.
SPEAKER_07No, you gotta be Josh. He had to say Josh because somebody else, you don't know she got a prostate.
SPEAKER_02No, sir. Only men have a prostate.
SPEAKER_07No way.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yes way. Oh my gosh, what you don't know that women do not have a prostate.
SPEAKER_07I'm gonna have to Google that because I could have sworn that I mean, you know, hey, well.
SPEAKER_02Girl, he just made me eat it. It's good.
SPEAKER_07It's good for you.
SPEAKER_02He said he made this meal for my prostate. Red flag.
SPEAKER_07Green flag turned red.
SPEAKER_02Now let's go back to the parenting store. Remember, we talked about um what you made your baby with? Yep. Now you the valedictorian and you the now if you made something.
SPEAKER_07That's the valedic right there.
SPEAKER_02If you made something with somebody who thought women have a prostate, your baby ain't gonna be as smart as you, honey. Stop putting pressure on her. He's not gonna be. A grown man. A grown man and put in a whole meal for a woman for her prostate.
SPEAKER_07He missed a lot of biology classes and commercials.
SPEAKER_02I bet you saying, I can't believe this. But guess what? Believe it, sister.
SPEAKER_07She should have told him, no, you eat it because it's gonna help your ovaries.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that's what she said. She said she was gonna make a meal for him and say, Yes, I made a meal for you for your ovaries, dumb butt.
SPEAKER_07Look at it. Believe it, sister.
SPEAKER_02Believe it, sister. It's people out there think women got prostates.
SPEAKER_07But anyway, I don't know what a hippo story is, but uh You were supposed to be fighting it. With what, Cree? You was reading it on your phone.
SPEAKER_02Sorry.
SPEAKER_07We filming with the phone.
SPEAKER_02We are.
SPEAKER_07I done, you know, I get my laptop back out. I could have the laptop out. I could have the iPad out. That's why I need to get me an iPad mini. So we need to put that in our producing budget. All right, Miss Producer. So here
Cocaine Hippos And Escobar’s Legacy
SPEAKER_07we go. In Colombia, all right, they have to euthanize dozens of cocaine hippos linked to drug lord Pablo Escobar in bid to control the population. So Colombian officials, they authorized a plan to cull dozens, cull, you know, uh euthanizing, dozens of hippos roaming freely through a region in the center of the country where they threatened villagers and displaced native species years after notorious Pablo Escobar bought in the first ones. So Pablo Escobar bought in some um hippos, God only knows why, all right. Um the previous method to control the population of the so-called hippos have been expensive and unsuccessful, including neutering some of the animals or moving them to zoos. All right, 80 hippos would have to be affected by the measure. They didn't know when they were going to start hunting them, but they definitely said that we got to do something because they're terrorizing the people. All right. And so, you know, if you think about it, uh these huge hippos. Huge hippos are huge. Very huge. All right. They were bought in by Pablo Escobar, put on a little private ranch, and he had like a private zoo farm with the private landing strip that served as his uh, you know, landing strip to bring in drugs and take drugs out. All right. And so Columbia declared them invasive species after some of them just went wild and got away. Okay. And how did they get the cocaine? Well, they believe that a lot of the cocaine is stashed throughout, like in certain parts of the water and stuff like that. Pablo Escobar uh put them underwater so that they can go get them later. And they think that the cocaine, the hippos. They got the cocaine. And so as the hippos uh got the cocaine and started eating the cocaine, they started noticing that they were acting very erratic.
SPEAKER_02Oh, because once they got the first bit, they was like, I feel big.
SPEAKER_07They got their high.
SPEAKER_02And then they were like, Oh, let me find some more.
SPEAKER_07Well, crack addicts do, they go.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, just like humans.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, and so they probably noticed that that the hippos were running faster. Because you know, crack adders get real fast. Uh-huh. And they're strong. Hippos already look like they got muscles. Yeah. So some of them were probably leaning up because they didn't have wrinkles.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_07Because remember that little crackhead used to be in California. That joke was ripped.
SPEAKER_02Man, he was ripped.
SPEAKER_07Everybody knows about him. The one in Inglewood.
SPEAKER_02Right by the uh, you the Starbucks used to be there and the uh uh uh uh burger place.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, the burger place. It was right there across the street from Pans.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_07From the uh, what's that burger place called? Uh Fat Burger.
SPEAKER_02Fat Burger.
SPEAKER_07The Starbucks and Fat Burger that um Caddy Corner on that. Magic Johnson used to own.
SPEAKER_02Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_07You know, where they used to always have the run club at the uh at that Starbucks. At Ralph's right there. Yeah. And that little crackhead, he was ripped up. Never saw him work out, but he was ripped up for all three years.
SPEAKER_00Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_07And so them hippos, they got they were probably running real fast, probably ripped up. And almost like Ozimpit.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_07They was probably on O Zimpic. They was like, how do you hippo look?
SPEAKER_02So they wasn't eating food. They was eating crack. I mean cocaine.
SPEAKER_07Swimming real good in that water, too.
SPEAKER_02Can you imagine?
SPEAKER_07Yeah. Golly. And you know them little two teeth that they had, they probably rotted up.
SPEAKER_02They ain't got no two teeth, too.
SPEAKER_07Hippos do have teeth.
SPEAKER_02Oh, the two front teeth?
SPEAKER_07No, it's like right here. Like right here. Are you thinking of a hippo? No, hippo got teeth right there.
SPEAKER_02No, I got to look it up.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, they do. Look at them. Yep. But them jokers, boys. So you got cocaine sharks, cocaine bear, cocaine hippos. What's next?
SPEAKER_02Who do y'all think will be? Oh, animal eyes?
SPEAKER_07Yeah. It's something going on. What? I don't know.
SPEAKER_02Something like that. It's some cocaine, yeah. The last thing we need is some cocaine monkeys. Oh, yeah, that's. That'd be crazy.
SPEAKER_07Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Because they already naturally ADHD.
SPEAKER_07It's a rap. It's a rap.
SPEAKER_02Well, what about a cocaine gorilla?
SPEAKER_07Yeah, he's gonna be, yeah, he's gonna be jacked up. He already strong too. When they get to them zoo, they bust them, uh bust through the blast, yeah. Yeah, yeah, you don't want that.
SPEAKER_00We don't want that blow.
SPEAKER_07They need to start stashing the weed away then.
SPEAKER_00Uh uh.
SPEAKER_07Then birds will be walking to get into some weed. They won't even be flying no more.
SPEAKER_02No.
SPEAKER_07I'll be flying upside down.
SPEAKER_02Glide. People like, why not birds just kind of like this? Glide.
SPEAKER_07And giraffes won't even hold their nick up. No.
SPEAKER_02They just be Yeah, or camels.
SPEAKER_07Yeah. Camels, yeah. They yeah, they be dragging. They humps will be sideways.
SPEAKER_02Oh, now this will be an interesting animal to have on cocaine. A sloth.
SPEAKER_07Oh, yeah. Man, but moving real fast, gliding.
SPEAKER_02I ain't never seen a slump go that fast. When we was in Costa Rica, you just see them and they just kind of move.
SPEAKER_07Casually take their turn.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I mean, so slow.
SPEAKER_07They crossing the street, like we had to go around them because they wouldn't cross the street fast.
SPEAKER_02They just move slow.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, they get on cocaine. Man, we'll be like, even the monkeys that was in them tree.
SPEAKER_02When we was going, they was they was going through there. That'd be crazy.
SPEAKER_07Something else getting ready to be on cocaine. Y'all better watch out in the world. We got hippos, we got bears, we got sharks.
SPEAKER_02And why they all got cocaine?
SPEAKER_07Cocaine. Cocaine, hell of a drug. Rick James told y'all. Rick Jane told y'all. Rick James, bitch. You told you, cocaine is a hell of a drug. So that's our other believe it.
SPEAKER_02Believe it, sister, the hippos on cocaine.
SPEAKER_07Or believe it, veterinarians. Crack hippos now. Yep. Crack is whack and crack me. Kill Applejack. Remember that? He jumped in and he didn't jump back. He was just too blind to see that. Def lives in a rock house.
SPEAKER_02You remember that song? What about the song? They said, Yo mama on crack rock.
SPEAKER_07Your mama owned crack rock.
SPEAKER_03No, she ain't. Yep.
SPEAKER_07That's a really good song right there. I just love that song. All right.
SPEAKER_03Okay. All right.
Side Eye Moments And Bad Fast Food
SPEAKER_07So what's next?
SPEAKER_03We're ready for the side eye. What is your side eye of the case? Oh, I had one too.
SPEAKER_07Oh, I'll be.
SPEAKER_03I'm ready. You want to think about yours?
SPEAKER_02Yes.
SPEAKER_07Give me, give me yours, and then I'll I'll give you mine.
SPEAKER_02Well, I'm side eyeing myself again. Okay. Okay, so I um um on Monday or Sunday, I I heard this uh right before I went to bed on TikTok, Instagram. Some good inspirational, like little things. And so it was encouraging you to spend the week being positive. Being positive. And I was like, I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. I'll spend a week being positive. I'm gonna be mindful of my thoughts. All right, all things. So Monday got up, it was like being positive all day. I'm driving, and all of a sudden I hear myself, what is you doing? I was like, Oh, that's not Lord, I'm sorry. I said I was gonna be positive. It's all right, just take your time. There you go. But I immediately did. So what it did, it made me aware of when I'm not positive.
SPEAKER_07Self-awareness. Um I mentioned that to you, remember? Yeah, because you said something about it, so what are you gonna do about when you're driving? Yeah, because you were saying, I'm in my you know, I'm driving, I'm I like to be peaceful in my thoughts. And I was like, Well, when you driving, you be peaceful.
SPEAKER_02But I'm some of my thoughts I don't be though. When I turn everything out, but I was I was like, oh Lord. So that is what I'm gonna work on. So, but I side on myself because I mean I wasn't good into my drive before.
SPEAKER_07You gotta change it.
SPEAKER_02So, anyways, so yeah.
SPEAKER_07Well, I'll give you my most recent side, but I couldn't even think. I definitely had some good. I said, Oh, I got some choices this week. Okay, choice. And I know some of them had to do at work, but the main one is yesterday when I was returning something and picking up something else for our uh something new we're getting ready to try to do, and I'll tell you about that later. It's dealing with all this content stuff though. Um, but I said, I wanted some chicken bags. I just wanted a little some fried chicken wings. Yeah. And you know, I should have gone to Popeye's, which was behind me, but then I was like, KFC always hit their little spicy chicken.
SPEAKER_02You know, the little chicken wings?
SPEAKER_07Their spicy chicken wings always hit. But then I was getting ready to go get some, but then I said, Well, nah, I don't want to make that extra turn. Let me just dip onto the crib. And so I get there.
SPEAKER_02You get what?
SPEAKER_07Well, I get to the intersection. I said, it's a little place right here. So I decided to go to Carl. What's it called? Carl's or Junior's?
SPEAKER_02Carl Junior.
SPEAKER_07It's not Carl's Junior. It's something else. I don't think it's Carl's. I think it's just called Carl's.
SPEAKER_02I don't think you went to Carl's. That's not what that place is called. It is. Look it up.
SPEAKER_07It's called Carl's. Look on your phone.
SPEAKER_02No, I know what you're talking about.
SPEAKER_07Okay, well, just look on your phone and see if it's called Carl's. Or Jax, maybe. Yeah, Jax. So it's not like Jack in the Box.
SPEAKER_02It's not Jack. But sometimes I was like, is that Jack in the Box? It's not Jack in the Box.
SPEAKER_07It's called Jack's. So it's Jack's, right?
SPEAKER_02Sorry, Carl's Carl's Jr. He was trying to.
SPEAKER_07Sorry, Carl Jr. But if y'all got some chicken wings you want to sponsor your boy, I can send them over the hill.
SPEAKER_02Dang goddamn.
SPEAKER_07I'm a chicken wing connoisseur because I'm allergic to beef and pork due to a tick I got bit when I was hunting back in the 90s.
SPEAKER_06Okay.
SPEAKER_07All right, but anyway, so I go over there. I order everything. I mean, they're very nice people. Yeah. You know? All of us in there working.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_07But everybody's waiting for their food. Yeah. And so they pull on up right here. I said, well, I pull here. He said, oh, you can park. I said, well, I just pull up when this car give me a lease. Alright, no problem. So I pull up. I wait for 10 minutes. They come back. What you ordered again?
SPEAKER_00Oh no.
SPEAKER_07I said, I just ordered the plain chicken wings and the strawberry. It's like a strawberry cream pie. Just want to try that. Okay. And so they go back, come back with my chicken, open up my box. It had a little smell to it. Like a little greasy. But I said, that could be a good sign.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_07Because there was a lot of us in there. They probably fried them right. You know, but greases are, you know, fast food greases.
SPEAKER_02Well, you have fried chicken, so it should be.
SPEAKER_07Even outside, right. Even outside look greasy.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_07So I got, I took a bite and said, well, nah, I'm good. Just ate and threw it and, you know, put the little thing to the side. Save it for Kahari, because you know, he eat anything.
SPEAKER_02Why would you give Kahari nasty food?
SPEAKER_07But because he eat anything.
SPEAKER_02Okay. He don't eat anything. My baby does not eat anything.
SPEAKER_07Well, he eat all anything I have, he eats it. He don't eat everything. Okay, he eats all my stuff.
SPEAKER_02He eats the good stuff. But anyway.
SPEAKER_07So then I took my pie, took my bite, my pie. I said, nah, shoot, ain't hidden. I said, now you can't mess up my fries. So I started nibbling on the fries. The texture was great.
SPEAKER_02Okay. What kind of fries were they?
SPEAKER_07The uh crinkle. Yeah, the crinkle fries. You know. I got me a good crinkle fries. Oh, okay. Texture was great. Not real crunchy, not real soft. But then I said, don't taste right. They taste flamiliar. Don't taste nasty, but it just don't taste like regular fries. So I bit it again and I looked at my finger. My fingers were kind of yellow. So that's the salt. I knew it was a salt, but I was like trying to figure the seasoning. And I took a few more. You know, I said, it's interesting. And I said, This is popcorn salt.
SPEAKER_00Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_07They done put popcorn salt on the French fries. What's it called again? Junior? Jax. Jax. At Jack's in Dallas, Georgia. I said, boy, they don't know Jack about Jack. I was so mad. I was like, my whole little taste was ruined.
SPEAKER_02Well. No we say. I meant you didn't need it.
SPEAKER_07But you never know until you get it.
SPEAKER_02That's right.
SPEAKER_07You know, so.
SPEAKER_02What about your little pie?
SPEAKER_07The pie was, it was um, it wasn't um, it was now crispy. It just wasn't the the flavors didn't didn't have the true flavors of it.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_07You know what I mean? It was like a it was like a cheaper version of it.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_07Yeah. So that's all it was. It's uh whatever jacked is just a jacked off version of somebody else.
SPEAKER_00Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_07And we don't even know who it's I was disappointed. Very disappointed to say the least. But uh, that's my side eye.
Gratitude Birthdays And What’s Next
SPEAKER_07So let's let's uh tell about our gratefulness. Let me go first.
SPEAKER_04Okay, go.
SPEAKER_07I am grateful that I know we gotta get the AC done. I mean the the the th furnace and stuff, but I'm grateful that we do have AC.
SPEAKER_04Okay.
SPEAKER_07You know what I mean? That it didn't just like shut down, but we still gotta decide.
SPEAKER_02We need to decide.
SPEAKER_07And I and I said we're deciding on the very cheap one. Okay. That's it. But the thing about the cheap one to finance.
SPEAKER_02We're talking about it.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, but we're deciding, like, m by Monday, we're just gonna say, boom, this is it.
SPEAKER_02That's it, we're doing it.
SPEAKER_07This is it.
SPEAKER_02We're doing it.
SPEAKER_07And but I'm grateful that we're like things could be real bad. Like, uh, you know, the media and all that stuff, it's a lot of stuff going on.
SPEAKER_00It is a lot of style.
SPEAKER_07You know, um, but we're good. I put $70 in my G. I ain't never put $70 in my G.
SPEAKER_00It's crazy.
SPEAKER_0770, $77 in my G. And um, but I had, we, you know, the means to do so.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_07So I'm grateful. Thank you, Lord, for for that. Um, and he just keeps making a way, man. Keeps making a way. So, and I come home, my wife treat me right. She don't, you know, she's a good lady. She's a good old lady. So I'm grateful.
SPEAKER_01Oh my god.
SPEAKER_07Because it could be where I be feeling for them folks out there talking about they lady but I got me a good lady, y'all.
SPEAKER_02I'm grateful for. Ciao. Go ahead. Well, I'm grateful for um a husband that is supportive and encouraging. Um, my plate has been pretty full for the last four months. And um, he has not complained about it. He's just encouraged it.
SPEAKER_07Let's do it.
SPEAKER_02And um made it easier um and encouraged me to take care of myself. Um, so I'm grateful um for that, that I can do what I need to do and um still come home to a happy place. So I'm grateful for that.
SPEAKER_07That's what, you know, I'm uh my whole purpose or my whole goal is to just make sure you're comfortable and happy. Whatever that looks like. That's what I that's my joy to know that you're you're good.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_07That's what I do.
SPEAKER_02I forgot to say, did y'all notice something different about this guy over here?
SPEAKER_07I had to shave my beard because it wouldn't fit in the the uh the head of the Bow Wizzle costume, the Snoop Dogg costume. And then when I shaved it, it still didn't work. The chin strap didn't work, so it's cool. It made me look a little slimmer.
SPEAKER_02So he's here, he's here with the goatee.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, little goatee.
SPEAKER_02What's different?
SPEAKER_07I'm different.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah. So he's on old Zimpick.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, right. Somebody you got that face Zimbabwe. All right, uh, looking forward to what are you looking forward to?
SPEAKER_02My birthday!
SPEAKER_07Right, coming up, Lil' Coming up.
SPEAKER_02My birthday is next Sunday.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, yeah. My birthday is next. It's stuff that and it's I'm so mad because some of the stuff that I wanted to do.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_07Then I went back and looked, and now it's like ridiculous? No, it's it's it was ridiculous. Now it's like, yeah, but it may not be able to do in time. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_02Okay, oh, okay, okay.
SPEAKER_07So it's like I'm trying to say, well, also Mother's Day. Well, there's Mother's Day. That's what I'm saying. Mother's Day is coming, so it's like bam, bam, or what? So uh I kind of took a risk on something today. Okay. And we'll see what happens.
SPEAKER_02We'll see. So yeah, super, I'm looking forward to that. So Sunday is my birthday, then the next week is graduation celebrations. And the most week is Mother's Day.
SPEAKER_07I told y'all, May is always expensive.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, May is all expensive.
SPEAKER_07So always.
SPEAKER_02Um, anywho, I am excited about um all of May. It's gonna be a um great festivity.
SPEAKER_07Because remember that one year of May, we had my graduation in Arizona for the doctorate. The boys' graduation, boys' graduation, your birthday, and the mother's day.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_07And we still took a trip. Is that was that the year we went to New York in July, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, we went to New York in July with the godparents.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, it was like we were rolling that year.
SPEAKER_02That was such a fun trip, too, with the godparents and the boys. We had a blast.
SPEAKER_07We had a great time.
SPEAKER_02We had a great time with them. Yeah. Remember when we when we were doing the Ubers in New York, we just we kept getting crappy ones. And we ended up getting like a special needs exam.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Goddad shows up, Malachi shows up, he's like, Oh, I'll get it. Uh, here comes the black uh Uber black, yeah Uber black, and we're like, oh, okay. So he had us looking crazy, but yeah. But we had a great, we always have a great time with the godparents. They're just so easy to travel with.
SPEAKER_07Yep. So um, all right, so and you that's what you're looking for, your birthday and all that stuff. I'm looking forward to um, I'm looking forward to your birthday as well. I always do. Um it's it brings me stress because I want to make sure I get it right.
SPEAKER_02Oh goodness. Um Kimani will be here so that you know that.
SPEAKER_07But no, I'm but he's here then. I need to be now. You know what I'm saying? The prep.
SPEAKER_02Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_07Like, did I, you know, okay go here, let's see if I can get this, go here, do this, and do that, do that, do that. Um, but um, so I'm gonna just start doing like other Folge Geese gift card here.
SPEAKER_02I wish you would now do that.
SPEAKER_07Um, but no, that's what I'm looking. I'm looking forward to your birthday. It's just fun. I like I like when you celebrate.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_07Um, and that's really it. You know, nothing else.
SPEAKER_02Alrighty then. Well, we ready to go?
SPEAKER_07Yes, let's get out of here. Um,
Closing Shoutouts And Listener Requests
SPEAKER_07we're done for the day. Uh, thank y'all for watching the clips. Uh I I like loaded y'all up last night with some clips um or Friday night. Um, I'm gonna throw y'all some more tonight of this episode.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_07Uh we're gonna jump on them and um tell us what y'all would like to see, hear, talk about.
SPEAKER_02Oh, yeah, what y'all want us to talk about.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, you know, you can y'all can chat with us. You know, uh we're in the building stages, getting ready to drop a website just for the the uh the podcast itself. Um we'll have a few, we sometimes we're gonna we're gonna try to figure out how to get this going live thing, do TikTok live, Instagram live, all that stuff. Um we're gonna just do do a little family gathering for y'all, something, you know, because y'all are family, you know. The ones that watch it and comment.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_07But the other ones, y'all, come on now. But nah, we're just tripping. But uh Sucker, sucker MCs. You know, so uh thank y'all for watching and listening to the Refreshingly Normal Podcast.
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SPEAKER_02We sure can't. We can sing enough.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, and hey, we good people now.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_07Trust.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_07All right, but uh just help us, help us, baby. When you help us blow up your weight, we're gonna help you. We're gonna help you blow up your weight.
SPEAKER_02That's for real.
SPEAKER_07That's how y'all know us. Yeah. All right, y'all. We're gonna get up out of here, go get us something to nibble on. Yeah. I have a little nibble this morning. We're gonna get another nibble later on tonight. Oh, we talk about food. My bad. Oh my gosh. Goodbye, everybody.
SPEAKER_02Goodbye.
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