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What If A Lab Result Changes Everything

Kefla and Crecia Season 2 Episode 48

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A positive test result should never feel like a midnight ambush, and a busy job should not be the thing that slowly breaks your body or your marriage. We start with a real week-in-the-life check-in that turns into a deep talk on educator burnout, especially for PE and health teachers who coach, work weekends, and still get treated like they have an “easy” job. We share what actually helps: small boundary shifts, honest conversations, and the mindset of thriving instead of just surviving.

Then we pivot to joy and meaning, including our trip to the High Museum in Atlanta to see Amy Sherald’s exhibit. We unpack what makes her portraits hit so hard, from the gray skin tones to the way she captures everyday people with dignity and presence. It becomes a reminder that wellness is not only rest, it is also art, wonder, and scheduling life-giving moments on purpose even during a packed season.

The heaviest segment centers on a Georgia teen who discovered an HIV-positive result through an online portal, only to later learn it was a false positive. We talk about urgent care accountability, why prompt confidential notification matters, and how quickly medical misinformation or delays can create trauma. That leads into a bigger conversation on sexual health education, why parents cannot outsource the talk, and how to help kids make informed decisions in a world that exposes them to everything early.

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Cold Open And Couple Banter

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The Refreshingly Normal Podcast.

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Welcome back, everybody. Thank you for tuning in to the Refreshingly Normal podcast. I am Kifla.

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I am Lucrecia.

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And we are the dynamic duo.

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Yep.

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The power couple.

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All day. The power twos. I don't know about that. I'm not a tool. I said twos.

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I almost thought you said a tool. You said power, a power tool. I thought that's what you said.

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I can see how you probably.

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I thought you were trying to be fun.

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It's all good.

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Oh well.

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It's all good.

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Power twos.

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Why are the power twos?

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Because we're like two people.

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Oh, yeah. We are.

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Favorite numbers, too.

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Yeah.

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Never mind. Sorry, ladies and gentlemen. Um, what you can do is probably like go back to one of our other episodes, play that as the intro, then get to this episode, fast forward, and then get to this part right here.

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Anywho.

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So here we are. We're back.

Educator Burnout And Real Balance

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So how was your week?

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Uh let's see. It was, well, I've been at work. This was your first week back. But for me, I've been working. And so this week was um, I got to do a training.

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Okay.

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For the PE teachers.

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That's right, that's right, that's right.

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Thrive, not just surviving.

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Say it again.

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Thrive, not just survive.

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That's right.

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So um, really about burnout for educators, but I did it for the PE health teachers.

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Because we burn out fast.

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Um it's funny that oftentimes people think that like PE and health have the easy cushion jobs. Um, but if you think about it, their work is just different.

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Yeah.

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Um, so especially in high school, because they're coaching, um, because in order to be in that role in many schools, you have to coach. So it doesn't, it's just not the school day, it's the weekends, it's the after-school hours practices. So it is a little different. And then oftentimes because some people think that you aren't doing as much as other teachers, that they also give you a little bit. Yeah, they don't, that's what I mean. They don't think that you are because the work is just different. That they, you know, feel like you they should give you more. Um, and so um, all especially in elementary, that happens a lot. Um, and so it was um just important for them to feel like people get what you do, and that, you know, people do understand that you don't have the cushion job. There are lots that are on your plate. And it wasn't just about them working, it was actually also about the balance, the balance of home and work. Because for some people, work is an escape.

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Yeah, homework itself. Yeah, yeah, they needed that because I mean it was a great training.

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Yeah, so anywho, I did that.

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Great, great, great, great. I was, yo, I was so proud of her. I'm like, I was, I was this look, I was sitting over there on the side, and I kept saying, Oh my god, I'm so proud of that.

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Oh my gosh, I forgot to tell you this. So somebody got a picture of you, and they says, Kree, we have a picture, and we somebody took a picture of Kefla and he's just like looking at you. Like, like he's just so proud. I was, man. Somebody has a picture of that. Who hasn't? I don't know.

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You were one of the people that came in and took it because it was.

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I think so. Because Sarah saw it. She goes, Oh my gosh, Kree, there's a picture of Key in your Kefla in your training.

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And he's just we need that picture so I gotta ask her where that picture is, but we need a post. But I'm telling you, man, y'all, she did her big. I already know my wife is good, but to see her, I've and I've been in other trainings she's done. But it was just this one.

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I've gotten better.

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Yeah, oh much because the last training was when your girl was there, and it's been a year since she's been gone. It was like two, and it was a year prior, yeah, you know, that we had so almost three.

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Yeah.

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When that with that session. And um, I mean, it was just you were so comfortable. And and this one was this was your bag. Like this one right here was your bag.

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That's what I do necessarily. Yes. That kind of bag.

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Yes, like this is this is who you are without the badge.

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I don't know, but you know what? I feel like maybe I'm just kind of getting comfortable in that because when I did New Teacher Academy and I was doing um uh behavior, like things for them to think about as they start the school year, like thinking about behavior toolkit. There was a lady that came up to me. She said, I just had to say this before I leave. She goes, When you uh when we walked in and we knew that you were presenting, we looked at that we our whole table was like, She looks like wellness. And so, yeah, and so I don't know. So maybe it's just kind of No, I don't know.

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This, like Tim, what you were saying, this is you without you know what I mean? Because one, um, even the man said, Oh, you sound like a coach's wife because you lived it.

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Yeah.

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And this is something that you discuss, you know, we always discuss, you know, throughout our whole marriage because we grinded. You know, I was coaching elementary PE in when we met, you know, in I mean elementary sports, you know, in Dallas. And uh, even though I didn't coach in California, I was doing the after school activities. So we always discuss the balance. And so you can tell that you when I'm saying, you know, some people say, oh, I'm good at it now, I've gotten good because I've spoken. No, you've lived it.

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Yeah.

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So everything that somebody, any question they can ask, you already know. You can go back to chapter two of your life, chapter three of your life. You've experienced that. And so it and and you lived it and you embraced it. And even if the experience wasn't great at the time, it worked out to be great based off of you know who we are. And so it gave them, when I tell those ladies, like hell, you know, hope, hope.

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Yeah.

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You know what I mean? Like they was really feeling good.

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Yeah.

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Like this was you. I just I'm just saying, I'm sorry, y'all. I'm so sorry, but I'm telling you, I was so proud. I am so proud.

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Well, thank you. So amazing. And I also really believe in the things that I say. That's like very important to me. What when I present things, it's like I'm gonna put only the things that I believe in. And even although I have to turn it into the powers that be, and they have to say, you know, what they but I fight for what I really believe in. They know that. And we kind of, you know, I'm I'm okay with saying this is why I need this here or whatever that may be. But I really do believe in those things. And then it just, even for that, it kind of was like confirmation in regards to like what our plan is, and to re in regards to opening up like our own wellness and counseling together, because I do think that because of how we've done and things that we've been through, and how we've been able to maneuver and talk through and in our own marriage, how powerful we will be for to help other people in theirs through couples therapy and all of the things. So to me, that also kind of showed that part because there were men receiving this information, and they didn't receive it in a way that made them feel like, oh man, I'm a sorry husband, or I'm not doing enough. They were able to receive it with, okay, I well, wait a minute. I because my goal, and I don't know, you can tell me, but my goal was not for them to leave, like feeling like I gotta quit coaching, and I just gotta go and do the things my wife needs me to do. But my thing was for them to understand that what you're doing, you're not doing anything wrong, but here's a little tweak you can do that can still allow you to do the thing that you have to do, but then be able to um take care of home as well. So that was my goal was to not make it.

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No, you did that, you you did that in in a and above because my not a goal, but my prayer was that they didn't leave there talking about she don't know nothing about coaching. She, you know, talking against coaching, you know, but instead it was the people that came knew that you understood home and living. And they know coaching is, you know, it's it could be long and tedious and all that stuff. But it's uh there's so many of them that get bashed for coaching. You know, even parents, like we got to practice again this week. And I understand because everybody's practiced, so you have to be competitive. Yeah. You know, you have to do what everybody's doing. But when people left not feeling attacked by you, you know, that's how coaches are. We're you know, we're guarded. And and nobody felt attacked, they felt they felt understood. That's what it was. It was they felt understood. And then you gave them tools for their understanding to help them be able to even you know, coach longer, coach in peace, but you know, also parent in peace and father in peace and husband in peace and all that kind of stuff. And that was my prayer that was answered. And so I think both of our your goal and our prayers were answered, and it was phenomenal.

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Yeah, thank you. So that's really what I wanted to be able to do in that, um, and for everybody just to kind of leave feeling lighter and leaving at least with one thing, if not more, but at least one thing that they could go and do that would lighten their load um a little bit. Because I think just a little lightening gives you an opportunity to breathe and feel better. So that was my whole goal.

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One more thing. You know how, you know how people say, Oh, keep pushing your husband, you know, to the do the TV and oh he's a great coach. I love your wife. That's all I kept hearing. I love your wife, coach. I love your wife. Your wife is so, oh, she came to I didn't know that was your wife. I love your wife. She's been coming to our school. That's why I've been here.

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And so I was like, Yeah, that's my wife.

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Oh, God.

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I mean, it's just you know and that and part of who I am is like, I um I cannot not be myself. I think I spent too long trying to be who I felt like other people wanted me to be. And so it feels good to be like me. And so that's all I can be. And luckily, I mean you could be a lot of other things. I could be a lot of things.

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We roleplay now. We'll practice, we'll practice the role play.

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But I'm so thankful that I now have like a supervisor who gets it. Allows you to be um and because we're both there. Yeah, who gets it because then that's where the impact happened. Shine. Even for our department, that's how we grow. But my whole goal is about helping people. And so um, it's not about me, it's not about me being up there and it's all about me up there presenting. That's not it. I don't care about that. But what I care about is helping people be just better people, better educators, um, um, better moms. Because the things I do are not just for them to use with students, it's really things they can take home and do with their family too. So, overall, just how to make people better people is um what I'm striving to do.

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So I didn't notice like session surveys.

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There were it's it was at the very end.

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Yeah.

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The last one, and the last one after which one did you attend?

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Okay. I thought I, you know, they used to do for us, they used to do session surveys.

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They do. But but for LEI and new teacher, NTA, they just do the final one.

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But PE they've always done.

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Yeah.

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Because one thing they've always we've always had so many come in.

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Maybe because it's been maybe with LEI that's different because now it's a part of LEI is like a whole system.

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I'm saying the new LEI is different.

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Yeah, that's what I mean.

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I'm saying like like last year, uh LEI was was in uh per session because everything was like like your being you being there the whole time was uncommon. Y'all would normally be there for two sessions because we had so many other people, like sponsors selling their items and all that kind of stuff, that they didn't wait till the last session, they try to get it right then and there, you know. And plus they also know about PE what happened at the end.

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Y'all leave.

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Because they said, oh, we got football practices. We'd pass another one.

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And I was very proud of my like I had about the same amount every session that came. Yeah. So um that made me feel good. Like the last one, I know I think Emily didn't have maybe one or two in her last one, but mine stayed consistently. So I'm assuming somebody must have said, hey, go to whatever. But, anyways, um, that really was the highlight um of my week.

When A Therapy Client Graduates

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Um, and then this was the first time I had to do an um end a session where my client felt like they got what they needed, they're ready to move on to the real world, one of my little middle schoolers. And I was sad, but I was like, that's my job. That means I did my job, and she's supposed to go on. I gave her all the tools, and she feels good about what I gave her, and she feels like she's more. She told me all things because I'm like, let me just make sure she's ready. That's what I felt like. So the questions I asked to make sure she's ready and all the things that she was, and at the end, because she's not one that doesn't, she's not a hugger. And so at the end, she looked like she wanted to hug me, but then I was like, Well, she's gonna have to come in for it because I didn't want because she's not a hugger. And then her her parents were there, and she didn't, you know, that whole situation. And so she um, so I just gave her a high five, but she looked like she wanted to, but I was like, You'll have to come hug me because I can't come hug, you know, hug you. But that was my very first one who has gone on her merry way, like went all the way through, and felt confident in being completely done. And I was super sad. I was like, oh my gosh, I got a good, I got a big caseload. And I was like, is this how I'm gonna feel? Every time they like, Miss Cree, I think I don't need if they successful, yeah. I know.

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That say, I don't need it, but you like, yeah, you need it, but you saying you're done.

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If they successful, then yeah. I can't say that. But I think I yeah, but then some of them I'm gonna feel like if like maybe their parents say no, or maybe their parents don't won't bring them no more, because that kind of stuff could happen. But y'all, I was a little sad.

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That's how I go. My um, the professor that uh that hooded me for my doctorate, he told us when our first residency, he said, if you do your job right as a consultant, because that's pretty much what we are, he said, um, you will always need a job. He said, because you're gonna do so good by your clients that they won't need you. You're gonna, you know, get your clients, you're gonna build them up. Yeah. Because that's your job. Your job is to build them like kind of like parents, where you build them up where they can fly on their own.

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Yeah.

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He said, You he said, you're always gonna be needing a client because you're gonna get rid of one positively.

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Yeah. And so that's what I'm noticing. My ones I started with in February, January, in January. So some of those, they are you they are on it. They're using the skills. And so some of them I've moved from once a week to bi-weekly, and so I see them gradually doing the thing. So I was like, oh man, I'm gonna miss them. Because a lot of them I still enjoy them. So, yeah.

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The cool thing though with therapy is if I don't know how insurance does it, but I know when parents can't afford it, it's out of pocket. You know, like anybody, they they just go to their therapist, you know, at least once a month or twice a month, you know. But I'm no, I know that adults try to go once a month as a maintenance. Yep. Let me let me unload and then tell me where I'm probably slipping or where I'm not.

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Well, I told her and her parents, you know, like if at any point you know that she's welcome, you know, if you need to come back for like a little maintenance, more than welcome to come back. I will be here. Y'all just call me. Um, but yeah, so I was like, I got a couple more that I feel like they are there, but I'm proud. But sad.

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You're proud to be a therapist. You're a creed.

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So that's my week. What's your week?

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Well, my

Starting Over At A New School

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week started off going to my new school.

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Yeah.

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Um, you know, met the staff. It was it was cool because it was, you know, we were in the cafeteria. Most times we meet in a big theater, you know.

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Oh, yeah. Elementary cafeteria.

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We in the in their cafeteria, old and small.

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Yeah.

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Little bit of cafeteria, delicious goodies. Then they said our names and stuff, and y'all would have thought I've been there for a couple years.

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Well, how did they introduce you?

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Well, she they they had a slideshow and they said we have some new um staff. And so she clicked on it and said, This person was actually here before. She's back, yo, right. Yeah, we're so happy to have her. You know, she went from fifth grade to this grade now, and so and then they click on another person, and then we have, you know, such and such, who's gonna be the new whatever. And then said, and so, you know, we had to fill our PE style, and so we filled it with, you know, Dr. Hare, Dr. Keith La Hare. And then, you're like, surprise me. So I was like, sitting down in the back. I couldn't stand up because we're sitting in the little at the table. Yeah. And once you get in, you're done.

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Yeah.

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Men, you know, grown for you can't get out.

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Uh-huh.

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And so I was like, try to get ourselves wave. And so we're so happy. So the people like, we're happy, see you, we're happy, we're happy for you. So that made me feel good.

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Yeah.

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You know, because um, you know, every it's you think about it for what, 12 years, I had a normal routine. Yeah. I had a normal route and normal people, normal everything, normal hate, knowing everybody. And so now I don't know anybody's name. Well, a few, but you know, but Oh, yeah.

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And it's a lot of that.

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Yeah, it's a lot of names to learn. Yeah. Um so Tuesday we did the training with you. Um Wednesday, uh, we did some, you know, the safety videos.

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Mm-hmm.

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Oh, yeah.

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Did you see the new, what's the name? Um Intruder.

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Yeah. That was last year's video.

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Oh, well then I guess I didn't pay attention last year. That was last year's video.

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Wait, wait, wait. You know what? Take that back. No, it was. He got on Jordan's, the guy that came in the case.

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Oh, okay. Okay.

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Yeah, that was the first year last year.

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Okay.

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But they still had the like when they talked about at the end, that was the clips from the previous. Uh-huh.

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Yeah.

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Um, but yeah, it's yeah.

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I didn't like it, but so last year I completely liked probably. Yeah, a lot of people didn't like it. Okay.

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And so, but then that was it. And then we did the um, we did a bathroom break. Mm-hmm. Well, they talked about, you know, our fire drills, where we go, and all that stuff. Then we did a bathroom break, and then we did the county um video. And so after that, she was like, That's it. I was like, 'Cause you know, high school we all right, uh PE or special ed, y'all go with science and you're going to talk about this. And um, then you go to this principal, talk about this, you go to this lead teacher. All day it's like meetings. Yeah, something. So the um teachers are mad because they don't have time to work in their rooms. And they was like, this is it. So I was like, This is the gym and I was like, I I don't really need to get the gym together because I don't like putting stuff on the wall because it falls down all the time when they hit it with a ball.

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Yeah.

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Even like your rules, you know. I like to put them up on the screen like as the kids come in.

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Uh-huh.

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And we, you know, reiterate the rules all the time as they're walking around and doing all that stuff.

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So they don't read them when they're up on the wall anyway. I mean, to be honest, they don't.

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Yeah, I don't know.

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But you can refer back to them, but trust me.

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I know. It's just it's for for when people come in. Yeah. The wigs, big wigs, they'd be like, Where's oh, I see it's rules.

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And that's why you shouldn't have as many, because you really could before you started your class, say, okay, what of our three rules here and PE? Yeah. And they say, da da da, ta da da, and ta da ta.

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That's it.

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And then you keep it moving, and then you keep it going. So then it's we've we met we've talked about the expectations. Now let's get to the activity.

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And so, and you know, and so I was like, There's really nothing. So um I just chilled in there and I had some. Worked, you know, I had to get my work done so that for the end of the semester. So I got that done. You know, finished client notes, you know, uh prepared stuff for my sessions I had this week. And Thursday, it was a lot of people came to the meet and greet. Um, you know, kids excited. Every parent said, My, oh, that's my athlete. That's my athlete, he's the athlete right there. Oh, he's good, he good. And, you know, maybe two of them were good. We gotta work on them. Gotta get them right. So come on, little fellas and little ladies. We gotta get them right. But it was some sweet kids. Some very I like, I mean, I know all of them are not gonna be sweet, but we're gonna get them all right. They're active.

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More good days than bad days. That's right.

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Exactly. But that's you, I would be scared if everybody behaved exactly the same.

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I don't even understand why people think that, think that for kids. Because do you as an adult behave every day? Uh no. You don't. So we don't. We don't all behave every single day. There are moments where we make a mistake or say something we shouldn't have said, or whatever that may be, speeding down the highway. Whatever. We all it's something.

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But what I do like is that everybody loves PE.

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No.

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You know what I'm saying?

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So the culture there for P is great.

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That's right. And and I'm I'm excited. The principal's giving me, you know, the the the blessing. Like they, you know, she's like, oh, you're gonna be great. Oh, we're so excited for it. And just that right there, you know, is just makes me feel like that.

SPEAKER_09

Well, yeah, I really love your principal. I mean, from the moment I met her, I would just felt like she's a good person. Yeah.

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This the staff in general, everybody's just, I think we're gonna have an amazing school year. I can't wait to hear. Yeah, I can't, I can't wait to, because I just, it's so much I want to do.

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Yeah.

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So much, so much, so much, so much. So it's it's gonna be fun.

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Cool.

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And then what did we do today?

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Oh, oh gosh, I'm gonna forget the name. Do you remember the name?

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Well, it's on my phone. You told me.

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I did.

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Um, okay. Okay, we went to the show. Don't even say like who first. We gotta say the name, and then you can say. All right, hit that. Welcome back. Welcome back, everybody. We're so sorry. We had technical difficulties. I've been trying to do something different with the camera. Instead, um, it's not staying on. I don't know, maybe it's overheating or something, but we had to flip back to the iPhone. So here we are.

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All right.

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In our glory.

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Anyways, we were going back what we did today.

Amy Sherald And The High Museum

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Um, and so we went to the High Museum to see a special exhibit. And we got to see the artist, Amy Sherrod.

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You just heard it. You told me.

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I did. Sherald.

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Sherrod. What did they say?

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I'm gonna I'm gonna play it again because I don't want to say it wrong. So hold on. I'm gonna say it again.

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How do you forget that? You better say I'll be forgetting stuff.

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Because I I second guessed myself. Okay. And Amy Sherald was so. All right, so Amy Sherald. Um, she was the artist that painted the Obama's portrait, but her art is just magnificent. And so um Kimani loves art. Um, he is a great artist himself, and so today um we did a little afternoon day at the High Museum um to see her work, and it was magnificent.

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It's crazy. Like it's she does, she does um live portraits first. I mean, um like she does she foot she photographs people and she photographs them in their natural essence. You know, sometimes she's uh inspired by just somebody walk and she'll say, Oh, can I photograph you? And she'll, you know, invite them or whatever, you know, they do the studio deal. And when I tell you, she captures exactly what that person is is is exuding. Um and the way she paints was 3D.

SPEAKER_09

Yeah, it looks like the paintings look 3D, although they weren't there on canvas.

SPEAKER_01

It looks like when was Yeah, you can see the wind.

SPEAKER_09

One of them had like the hands in their pocket, but even the the indention or whatever you want to say. Yeah, from the pocket. From the pocket, from the hand being the pocket, you could see that.

SPEAKER_01

And even when I s when when after you showed that to me, I was standing back further. And the further I got back, the more real it looked. Because it started looking like it was shadowy, not just shadowy, like it was like you could see the hands through the pants.

SPEAKER_09

Yeah, and like in the one with the girl on the bicycle. So the dog that was in the thing. You can see the dog's hair go back, and then the sunflowers like glowing in there. Yeah, it's just she's a great artist. Amazing. But um, one of us, like she said, she started to do art realizing like we weren't like the real us was we weren't in art, like just who we are as people, everyday um people. And what when she takes the pictures, what I thought was neat is that she keeps snapping shots until her eye gets the perfect shot that she wants to then take the photograph to create the painting. And so, like she was showing the one that she put together with the two guys, and she she had the moother leg here. Okay, no, let's go. And she kept shifting the movement until finally when she saw what she was. Yeah, yeah. And so it it's just really cool how she does her art and everything. But if you're in Atlanta, and I think her art is in other places, yeah, because she had a Brianna Taylor photographed beautiful. Um, so she's in there in different art museums, however, the the Michelle Obama one, yeah, the that particular piece. Is it the high museum?

SPEAKER_01

Of course, it's not the best piece right now.

SPEAKER_09

It's not gonna be there forever, but uh how long is it gonna be there? I have no idea.

SPEAKER_01

If you're in the Atlanta area or if you can get there within the next two weeks, if it's still there in the next two weeks, trust me, it's worth it. Yeah, it's worth it.

SPEAKER_09

Yeah, I didn't realize it was there until someone told me about it that is really into art, and I was like, we gotta get there. So I know Keemani's gonna be moving to teach because we know we told y'all he's gonna be teaching in New Jersey. So just trying to find things that he likes to do to enjoy him before he's gone doing his little thing in New Jersey. So I felt like it was a great little day today.

SPEAKER_01

It was. Yeah, I was so enamored by her work. It was oh my god. Like like she says, you use she used gray for the faces. Most people try to use the browns and you know, to you know, to match, but she uses the gray, and to me, yeah, that put more soul and and feeling in their faces.

SPEAKER_09

It did. It just it to me, just I don't know, like took the art up a notch because it wasn't really about the shade of brown. It was more so looking at who they were as humans.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09

Like people, like we're not looking at the shade or or the race or whatever. But who are these people? I think it just kind of took that away. Yeah, because everybody had color that popped amongst the skins and stuff and clothes that they normally and that oh, that was the other thing she said.

SPEAKER_01

She would get uh designers, black designers, to create things just for that.

SPEAKER_09

For certain things. Like they maybe didn't even have a dress, like, but they created something just for um her that painting.

SPEAKER_01

Like Brianna Taylor, you know, of course, she said she had to l uh interview the parents of the family to get the story behind her so that she could really paint who she was. And the designer made a dress for her. Of course, she didn't put the dress on Brianna Taylor, but she she the the the dress that the designer made based off of what the parents told her that she liked and stuff like that matched perfectly compared to what you know what I say. It was yeah, it was amazing, y'all. So check it out. What's her name again?

SPEAKER_09

Why would you ask me again? Amy Sherald. Sherald.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, Amy Sherald.

SPEAKER_09

Amy Sherald. And she's actually from Columbus, Georgia.

SPEAKER_01

Columbus, Georgia.

SPEAKER_09

Went to the race, went to Clark and then Spelman.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, went to Clark, then Spelman.

SPEAKER_09

And she is just an artist, and that's what she wanted to be. And her mom then weren't too sure about her doing that because they said our um artists, you know, usually are broke.

SPEAKER_01

And what she was, because remember what she said from when for a long time. From 20, was it 22, maybe, to 34?

SPEAKER_09

34, about 33.

SPEAKER_01

37, something like that. Something like that.

SPEAKER_09

A long time she was just. She bust tables. She busts. Yeah, she was a server waiter.

SPEAKER_01

Server tables, yeah.

SPEAKER_09

Um, and then before it all became a thing, and I think the biggest thing that kind of took her up a notch was was the Obamas requesting her to do uh their self-portrait.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, because of some paintings they saw. Because they're uh, you know, love art, art enthusiasts themselves.

SPEAKER_09

Yeah, so anywho, she went after her dream and um yeah, she said what was the thing that she said and she said, don't let people um people's compliments or people's negative compliments help you decide whether to do or not to do. You do what you want to do. Yeah, and she said that's what she's lived by, and that's why she feels like she was able to accomplish her dreams. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Great day.

SPEAKER_09

Great day.

SPEAKER_01

Great day. Yeah. All right. So

Wellness Tip Shower Before Gym

SPEAKER_01

now let's get into. You can't even tell people to do it because we didn't do it today.

SPEAKER_09

No, we didn't do a wellness, you didn't do your wellness tip. You got a wellness tip of the week for somebody?

SPEAKER_01

Oh, wellness. Oh, I thought that was what we was talking about because you did the well, your wellness tip.

SPEAKER_09

I didn't tell anything about that.

SPEAKER_01

But that's why I saw wellness tip. So I thought you'd like to. Yeah, it depends on what where they are. If you're in the gym, wash your body before you come to the gym. If you already stayed. Because you're gonna get even more musty. And the last thing we want to do is have to inhale hard after doing a heavy set of squats, and you right there beside us smelling like old nuts and underarm length.

SPEAKER_09

Because you know why, and I know what people think, and it ain't right. But if they mind thinking, it don't even matter. I'm gonna go sweat and work out. And I only take a shower before I go, but you do.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. The same people that say that are the same ones as soon as they finish working out, they're gonna sit on the couch. Man, I just crashed when I left the gym. I just fell asleep.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, your little stay.

SPEAKER_01

Now your sweated couch is jacked up. You tell them, hey, man, let's sit on the couch and watch the game. And you're wondering why every time you jump up and sit back down, a big puff of uh nut must come up in the air. Who wants that?

SPEAKER_09

You know what I'm saying? You should shower before you go. I mean, it's like in public, you know, don't add funk on top of funk, because that's just gonna be extra funky funk.

SPEAKER_01

That's it. Two times the funk.

SPEAKER_09

Two times the funk.

SPEAKER_01

So that's that's my tip. Shower before you go to the gym. If you if you stink. If you don't stink, you don't have to shower before you go to the gym. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, if you don't stink.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, because you can go right after work. Yeah. But if you know you done had nine hours out there, you know, shoveling hay for the for the cows and whatnot, because you're a country person, go take a bath.

SPEAKER_08

Before you go to the gym.

SPEAKER_09

Or at least you know they got the man wipes.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, do they have a dude wipes?

SPEAKER_09

Like get you a little wipes or something, kind of freshen yourself up, you know, a little bit.

SPEAKER_01

Put some tussa on.

SPEAKER_09

Get you a little more deodorant to kind of apply and wipe in those areas that's a little foam.

SPEAKER_01

Yep, baking soda.

SPEAKER_09

And definitely don't go and put on the same workout. Some people put on the same workout clothes and they haven't washed them.

SPEAKER_01

Tell your kids to take their P coats home.

SPEAKER_09

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. And your parent, parents out there with kids that play football, if you don't ever see your child bring home, because you know, like they're undergarments, like they tights and stuff like that, because schools don't wash them no more. They only wash game uniforms. If you don't ever see your child bring home their stuff, they're foul. Because as a coach, I used to hate getting in a huddle with our kids stinking uniforms. I hated that. I used to tell them, I said, I'm sorry, boss, but you got to stand over there. I'm gonna talk to you from over here. Coach Ross said, Yeah, man, because you stink. I told y'all take y'all stuff home.

SPEAKER_09

Yes.

SPEAKER_01

So that's my wellness tip of the week. What's yours?

SPEAKER_09

Um, I'm gonna put my favorite wellness tip, and I know I said it before, and I'm gonna say it. Say it again, then um, my wellness tip, especially for our educators who spent the summer, hopefully, um, taking care of themselves, enjoying waking up when you want to wake up, doing all the things. So as school starts, you have to remember to still take care of yourself because there are some educators that I mean the boundaries are just not there. So, my wellness tip schedule joy on purpose. So start with at least at least once a month. What is something you're scheduling for yourself that makes you smile, makes you feel good? What is that one thing? What is that gonna be? So schedule just one thing. What would be superb is if you could schedule at least one thing a week. Because it doesn't have to be a big thing, it could be um maybe on a specific day on your way home, you get your favorite coffee drink. Maybe that one week could be, maybe you do order grub pub or something for your lunch, something good to eat at lunch instead of eating your normal old sandwich and chips. Whatever that could be. Or maybe it could be Friday night, you find a new good movie to watch, you buy, you have some little snacks and you spend your Friday night just sitting watching something that's gonna make you feel good. But what is it going, what are you gonna schedule?

SPEAKER_01

What are you gonna schedule?

SPEAKER_09

So thinking about that, and then it gives you something to look forward to. So if you got Tyrone in your class who's cutting up, you'll know, oh my Lord, when Friday comes, I cannot wait for that, whatever the thing you schedule, so that that thing can bring you some joy as you're trying to figure out how, what kind of behavior things am I gonna put in place for Tyrone.

SPEAKER_01

For Tyrone.

SPEAKER_09

So it just gives you something to look forward to because oftentimes we just get to the hustle and bustle of things.

SPEAKER_01

What is bustle?

SPEAKER_09

Um, I don't know. It's just the phrase. It's just a phrase. But we get into the hustle and bustle and we just are doing things. Like I even now for me, like finding myself doing the hustle and bustle of things. That's why I went to the high museum, I was like, that's what we're doing today. So even though I had clients from nine to one, I was like, after I get off, we go into the high museum. So um finding things to do. Um we ain't bustle today because we do hustle and bustle.

SPEAKER_01

We hustle, but we ain't bustle today.

SPEAKER_09

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_01

We saw them bustle.

SPEAKER_09

All the things that you just find yourself doing where life just seems to feel like, oh, all I do is go to work, come home, exercise, go to bed, wake up, work out, go to work, come home, go to work again. So don't make that your life. Find things that bring you joy. So I challenge you to find joy.

SPEAKER_01

Find joy.

SPEAKER_09

Schedule joy, I mean.

SPEAKER_01

Schedule joy. Schedule joy. So speaking of scheduling, okay. There's

Schedule Joy And Couples Challenge

SPEAKER_01

an August schedule we want y'all to do. So most of y'all probably already missed, and it doesn't matter. Whenever you watch this episode, Michelle Obama, it's kind of like meditation. You know, you don't have to worry about, oh man, I missed so much out of meditation. You just start where you are.

SPEAKER_09

Yes. Start where you are.

SPEAKER_01

Start where you are. Don't worry about catching up.

SPEAKER_09

We're going to share it too on our social media, but they have a 30-day couples challenge. And every day you do something as a couple. And I don't think it's about a perfect score. I think what it's about is just keeping couple things on your mind to do together. Every day. Every day.

SPEAKER_01

Because there are some days you're so busy, like you, you know, another stand, ripping and running that you don't realize that, you know what? Everything was catered to my job.

SPEAKER_07

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01

And other people today, not one thing was catered to my spouse. Not even just the routine of like, well, I'm cooking. You're really cooking for yourself, too.

SPEAKER_09

And you got to cook.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. So it's like, well, I cook, but I needed to eat. So you gotta find something where you're actually doing it for the person that's always there for you in your in your greatest moments and your ugliest moments.

SPEAKER_09

And when, and also sometimes you get to the hustle and bustle and you feel a little bit like disconnected. So just things to kind of make sure you stay connected. So 30-day um relationship challenge. So, like day one, which would be today, it says send your partner a romantic good morning text.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I'll send you a good night text since we missed it.

SPEAKER_09

Well, see, we can swap it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09

So, anyways, we're gonna share it.

SPEAKER_01

But you don't answer text in the night.

SPEAKER_09

Because I'm asleep.

SPEAKER_01

No, even before you fall asleep.

SPEAKER_09

Well, sometimes I'm playing Uno, so I don't know the text messages come through because when I'm on Uno, they don't show up. They don't.

SPEAKER_01

Because you got the uh do not disturb anyone.

SPEAKER_09

Well, I don't know. It don't cut it.

SPEAKER_01

Probably so.

SPEAKER_09

So, anyways, I may not get it because I'm playing Uno. So sometimes that disconnect don't even be Well, listen, I do my best.

SPEAKER_01

The power company just don't work.

SPEAKER_09

Anyways, so August challenge, we're gonna post it. So then you can't tomorrow.

SPEAKER_01

So if you if you catch it when we download, I mean we'll upload tomorrow.

SPEAKER_09

Tomorrow is unplug and spend an hour together with no phones. Okay. So we can do one of our shows that we've been watching.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, so give them give them the first four.

SPEAKER_09

Okay. So that's August. So August 3rd.

SPEAKER_01

August 3rd.

SPEAKER_09

Ask your partner about their day and genuinely listen. Offer solutions to any problems they mention.

SPEAKER_01

First, you probably want to ask, do you want me to just listen or do you want me to help you?

SPEAKER_09

Yeah, ask that because that is important.

SPEAKER_01

I've learned to start doing that.

SPEAKER_09

Ask that first.

SPEAKER_01

All right, number four.

SPEAKER_09

Um, share a goal you have for your relationship.

SPEAKER_01

Go ahead and give me number five, and then we'll stop.

SPEAKER_09

And number five, write a sweet note for your partner and hide it for them to find later. Where will you put it? That'll be nice because I feel like when you do that, they're gonna find it on the day they really need it. I think that's just how life works. And it's gonna be a day that they really just need to, you know, and then I know where I'm gonna put mine. Then they'll, oh goodness, I wonder where it's put out putting it. But anyways, so we'll update you. That's the five. We're gonna post it, and then we'll tell you the next five next week.

SPEAKER_02

Yep.

SPEAKER_09

All right. Did you want

Shows We Cannot Stop Watching

SPEAKER_09

to talk about aren't the shows that we're watching?

SPEAKER_01

Because you were very No, because um your your your blinks are getting longer in between blinks. So my blinks are? Yeah.

unknown

Are they?

SPEAKER_01

Trust me, they are.

SPEAKER_09

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

Your blinks are.

SPEAKER_09

I I would be fine talking about the shows, although I do not know the titles, so I mean you're not.

SPEAKER_01

I'm I'm I'm telling you, I'm seeing you right now. You're not ready.

SPEAKER_09

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

We'll do it later. Another day. Okay. So you can talk about one of the shows, but we can't talk about all of them. Which one you want to talk about? You want to talk about the one with uh Regina?

SPEAKER_08

I don't even know what it's called.

SPEAKER_01

Oh man, I wish I had a phone in my hand because a smart person would be like, oh, I could just look it up.

SPEAKER_09

But I don't even what is it?

SPEAKER_01

Oh, there's a new Uno game. Let me see where it is.

SPEAKER_09

That's not good. On my phone. That's hard. So he just said the title, which is what? Uno.

SPEAKER_01

I'm just saying, but still, you looking for something.

SPEAKER_09

The new series.

SPEAKER_01

Me and Kimani just told you that too when we were leaving the museum.

SPEAKER_09

The new series, they just get on my nerves, y'all. I'm gonna find new um people to hang out with.

SPEAKER_01

You won't. You won't know how to find them. Because they just even with your phone, you won't even know how to find it.

SPEAKER_09

They just so uh I would call them, but I don't know how to call them. Um, new series. You know, uh first of all, he don't even know his own his own self because he he can't even sit here and tell y'all what it is.

SPEAKER_01

I know how to find it.

SPEAKER_09

Um, who is it? Is Regina Hall?

SPEAKER_01

Yes and who?

SPEAKER_09

Who is the other woman that's very popular?

SPEAKER_01

Uh is her name start with an A? I mean a J. Um The girl that played in was it Scream?

SPEAKER_09

The Five Star Weekend. That's the name of the series. Um what what uh platform is it on, or what uh uh Peacock. It's on Peacock. So it's the five-star weekend. Um one lady's husband dies.

SPEAKER_01

And she calls her best friends to come and spend a three-day weekend with him, right?

SPEAKER_09

Yeah, it's a three-day weekend, and they call the five-star weekend because she's like a famous chef on TV. Five friends, right?

SPEAKER_01

It's five friends, four friends.

SPEAKER_09

And then somebody who is a friend but she ain't a friend.

SPEAKER_01

So without giving too much away, everybody has something going on in their life that they haven't told all the friends.

SPEAKER_09

Yes, it's very good so far. Very, very good. And um, I feel like it does a it's like ling you leaves you like it lingers. Because like we're on episode maybe five or six. Five or six.

SPEAKER_01

And it's probably only two days. Yeah. Two days have passed, three days have passed. No, yeah, two days have passed.

SPEAKER_08

Not even, yeah, but it's probably slow.

SPEAKER_01

But I mean, but it's not it's still good. Yeah, it's it's slow when you look at the timestamp. Yeah, but the events are eventful because you're you're you're learning something from this person between this person, then something's happening over here between this person, and everybody has their own things going on.

SPEAKER_09

But there's one specific thing that I'm ready for somebody to find out about.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09

But they have not.

SPEAKER_01

Who knows how it's gonna find out?

SPEAKER_09

Yeah, so, anyways, that's something new that we're watching. And what was the I don't know the other one?

SPEAKER_01

The other one was with uh, what's her name? The lady that uh was the help and mom of not Viola Davis, uh Octavia Spencer. Yeah, Octavia Spencer. She's she's in a uh a show, and I want to say that maybe on Prime, and it's with uh her best friend. She found out, well, her husband wants to divorce her.

SPEAKER_09

Ride or die.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, ride or die, winds up dead, and discovers that her best friend, this is the pre- the what they say on the commercial, and her best friend, she finds out all in the same night her best friend is a um top secret uh spy.

SPEAKER_09

Assassin.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, assassin.

SPEAKER_09

She's an assassin. So that has been really good. So we watch, well, the only time we have time to watch TV is on Sunday.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09

And so on Sundays, we'll watch one of those, one of each.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, or two of which we at one point I didn't know. Kree obviously distracted me.

unknown

Why?

SPEAKER_01

The first time we watched because I was like, we on episode three of that of the five stars. I was like, Because we was doing a switch. Every day we like one of this and one of that. I was like, you cheating.

SPEAKER_09

She just said, Oh, oh, I didn't even pay attention. It wasn't I didn't pay attention. I just know him. Sometimes he'll do that and we'll end up and we never finish the series.

SPEAKER_01

We finish.

SPEAKER_09

Some of them we do for the few.

SPEAKER_01

But when we have time, like not during the week, not when school is in, like we probably, if we don't finish it this weekend, we probably won't finish until January.

SPEAKER_09

Well, we'll have Sundays.

SPEAKER_01

But I'm saying, like, nope, that's why a lot of because we're going.

SPEAKER_09

And so for me.

SPEAKER_01

We're ripping and running with the hustle and bustle.

SPEAKER_09

With that hustle and bustle. Now, listen, for me, I need to watch it because if we watch up to episode five or six and then try to finish it in January, I done doggone it. I done forgot what happened. So my brain just needs to be able to see it in a certain amount of time.

SPEAKER_01

I understand.

SPEAKER_09

And he don't like to binge. I'll binge.

SPEAKER_01

I can remember what happened.

SPEAKER_09

But it ain't the same.

SPEAKER_01

But it's just, well, for me, it's just like something else probably is like, well, lost interest. Oh, this looks good. Let me check this out.

SPEAKER_09

No, see, and I I like to finish things, I start.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Me too. But one show we did like looking like this. What did you do? What is you doing? You just my girlfriend. You and my wife. I tell you both what to do. Remember who that was? What was his name?

SPEAKER_08

Cecil.

SPEAKER_01

Cecil.

SPEAKER_09

What was his name?

SPEAKER_01

I don't even remember now. You done messed me up.

SPEAKER_09

What was the name of the show?

SPEAKER_01

Polygamus.

SPEAKER_09

Polygamist.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, polygamous. Y'all know about polygamous. It was it with a Jonas. Jonas. Jonas. Y'all remember Jonas? If y'all haven't seen Jonas.

SPEAKER_09

That was on Netflix.

SPEAKER_01

On Netflix.

SPEAKER_09

Jonas is reggaey.

SPEAKER_01

Now check this out. This is for, and everybody said the same thing Kree said. And Kree always says this. And I say this at first until I watched the movie Lupin. Lupin is an amazing series. But Kree, what did you say if the voice don't match or whatever you like?

SPEAKER_09

I don't like to watch it. If I start to watch it and then it's an American voice and then mouse around and it doesn't match, I'm like, But I cannot do it.

SPEAKER_01

You kept giving it, you gave it a shot.

SPEAKER_09

Because you told me, you said, give it at least two to three episodes. So I did, and then I was locked.

SPEAKER_01

Locked. You don't even really pay attention, do you?

SPEAKER_09

No.

SPEAKER_01

Because you're so into everything that it, and that's really how the brain works.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

The brain actually starts kind of sinking, and then it just it like says, Well, that's not the important part of it. You hear it and you're watching other actions of the person's body and all that stuff. And uh, and many people, like when we when it first came out on Facebook and stuff, people were saying, Oh, when it did that, honey, I two minutes and I was done. I couldn't do it. I said, Y'all got to give it a chance. And some people did give it a chance. They went back and said, Keefe, you were right. This is crazy. This dude is a mess, you know. But you have to give it a shot, trust me. It is insane. It's so good, though.

SPEAKER_09

It is so good.

SPEAKER_01

So, so, so, so good.

SPEAKER_09

It is crazy. And the ending is like, Woo!

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. So, if anybody out there shooting um what they call Nollywood for Nigerian Hollywood, if you're out there, you need that American guy.

SPEAKER_09

Here's your guy.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I'm here. I want to be the American friend of Nollywood. I already like everything African.

SPEAKER_09

And did y'all hear his accent? Do it again.

SPEAKER_01

What what did you do? You are my girlfriend, you are my wife. I tell you what to do. Peace off. Peace off. Peace off.

SPEAKER_08

There you go.

SPEAKER_01

Thank you.

SPEAKER_08

Thank you.

SPEAKER_01

And that's without practice. So see if I had lessons in classes, hey, but I want to be just an American person, then I could be like, yo, man, what? This is what y'all do out here? Polygamist? We can't do that in America, man. That would have stuff American. You could do this. Oh my god. Supposed to do this? Yes. The next thing you know, the next scene, I'll be woo, polygamy. I'll be the American wild friend.

SPEAKER_09

Oh gosh, please.

SPEAKER_01

Or I could be like Kevin Hart, be always the one always being like, hey, man, what's going on?

SPEAKER_09

Yeah, buddy.

SPEAKER_01

And they they punking them out. Well, he's making that money. That's his that's his role.

SPEAKER_09

That all sounds a terrible idea. I understand. Terrible idea.

SPEAKER_01

I understand. All right.

False Positive HIV And Urgent Care

SPEAKER_09

Are you ready for Believe It Sister?

SPEAKER_01

I'm ready for Believe It Sister, or Am I the Asshole?

SPEAKER_09

Alright, so you said you sent me things. I'm gonna give you my phone. And there you go.

SPEAKER_01

Which one you want me to read?

SPEAKER_09

Um, I kind of like the Believe It Sister one.

SPEAKER_01

The uh HIV thing. Okay, and you're gonna read the other one, or just the one that's only you want to read the other one?

SPEAKER_09

That's good enough.

SPEAKER_01

Child, we might not even get to it. Your phone, probably only like half percent.

SPEAKER_09

Well, re fast.

SPEAKER_01

All right, here we go. The title of this is called Family Outrage After Teen Left to Discover Her HIV diagnosis through online portal.

SPEAKER_07

Mm-mm-mm.

SPEAKER_01

She said, I was just crying. I felt like my life was over.

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Yeah.

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So a Georgia family says an urgent care clinic failed to notify their teenage daughter after an HIV screen and came back positive, leaving the teen to discover the result on her own through an online patient portal. The family later learned the test result was a false positive, but they say the experience nearly ended in tragedy after the teenager attempted to take her own life. All right, so now we got a app. I mean, not an app, what you call it?

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Commercial.

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Yeah, here we go. The family who asked not to be identified to protect the teenager's privacy said the incident began in June after the girl visited Pickens' urgent care indicator. According to the mother, she woke up to her daughter's screams after the teen had checked her MyChart account around 2 a.m. and found a positive HIV test result. I just didn't feel good at the moment, the teenager told Channel 2 Action News. The mother says she forced her way into the teen's locked bedroom to find that she had attempted to take her life after the diagnosis. I was just crying. I felt like my life was over, the teenager said. Her mother said the clinic never contacted the family, and after four additional tests at different facilities, all came back negative. A nurse at an HIV clinic urged her to investigate further. She said, Mom, this is a false positive. Do your research on that clinic. Do your due diligence, the mother recalled. The family found numerous poor Google reviews of the clinic, many of which alleged long wait times and negulant um negligence. Negligent and negligent and what you were trying to say. Yeah, I'm tired too. I'm like, I sound like Miss uh what's her name? Charles.

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Miss Nata.

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Yeah, Miss Netta. Negello Negellis and seemingly uniqualified proveterists. And negligent and seemingly unqualified providers. What if I didn't go to another clinic to get tested? I would have just gone on thinking that I had it, the teenager said to her false positive, of her false positive results. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says patients with positive HIV test results should be notified confidentially and promptly. This thing keeps going to an ad. And promptly, where am I? Connected to follow-up care. Timely notification is critical because early treatment improves health outcomes, reduces the risk of transmission, and ensures patients receive the support and care they need, according to the CDC. That never happened in the Georgia Teens case, the family claimed. The mother alleges she was only contacted by the clinic after Channel 2 Action News visited the facility in person. Clinic officials reported, Lee said, the outlet, I mean, told the outlet that HIV patients are typically scheduled for a follow-up appointment within five days. Thank God it was a false positive, the mother said about her daughter's situation. We just want to make sure this doesn't happen to any other teenagers.

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Who else has it happened to? Exactly. That's the thing.

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Most states, including Georgia, do not have a specific license or regulator for urgent care centers, according to community catalysts.

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I did not know that.

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Yep. A national nonprofit focus on making health care more accessible, affordable, and equitable. Instead, the doctors and other medical professionals working there are licensed individually, or the clinic operates under a hospital's license. That's what I was about to say. Yeah, like what's the one we go to? Whatever it is.

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Oh, Wellstar. Yeah, Wellstar.

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Uh-huh. And so, or the clinic operates under a hospital's license if it is affiliated with one. So some aren't.

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Aren't, yeah.

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Yep. The independent has contacted the news people, contacted Pickens Urgent Care and the Georgia Composite Medical Board for comment. But nobody has said anything.

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They haven't. And people now tend to go to urgent care because either they can't get an A with in with their doctor soon enough. And so they end up going to urgent care for immediate care because it is, I think, gone are the days when you can call your doctor and get a visit. It seemed like it's too many. The doctor doesn't have to be. And so you can't wait for your doctor. So you go to the urgent care. And now, child, are they get you get taking medicines and getting all this stuff? Do you really need it?

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Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

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Because are they just charging up things? Because I heard that one time and I was thinking they gave me everything. I got a shot. I got uh I had about five prescriptions. They was like, just in case. I was like, okay.

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Okay, case.

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Yeah. And so for this little lady, I mean, what if she would have What if she was successful?

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Yeah, you know, um unalibing herself, yeah. That's good. But even with that, with HIV, like, you know, let's say she was uh positive, but the test was the other way around. Oh, you know, negative false negative. Yeah, so here she is out there now having sex with people, say, oof, all right, thank God, child.

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And she wouldn't be lying if they said, have you taken the test? And she says, Whoa.

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Whoa. Because her results would show she could show the looks.

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I'm negative. And then actually, so how many people if that thing, if that urgent care, whatever you want to call it, have gotten a false negative and they out here just infecting folks.

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Yep. That's why Georgia, the case up here in Atlanta going crazy.

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But what is so hard about? I mean, is it a blood test? What is so hard about giving an HIV test? Are they giving old ones? Maybe they're not some, like, I bet you that's it. I bet you they just have um, I don't know what they use it for, but are they expired?

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Listen, we're not ordering none right now.

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Let's use what we got.

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Use these old ink blocks.

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It'll be fine. And are they using those and they're expired and not getting accurate results?

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Could be true.

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You know, like how we try to use when we had all those uh COVID extras, we like, it's a spy. Let's just see what it's like. And we would still use them, but then you still feel like unsure. Yeah, because you don't know.

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You'd be like, man, nah, this should be good. But we got all these tests.

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I wonder if that's what they got going there. If they're they, you know how often.

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It could be that. It could just be the fact that people not reading, you know, measurements right. You know, um, you know, sometimes when they tell you, like, even with the COVID test, uh, you have to put a certain amount of, you know, of the liquid in. Yeah, maybe just done wrong. Yeah, you don't do it wrong, you don't let it sit long enough, you know, all that kind of stuff. So it could be, you know, a list of things that are that's going on that's making this, you know, this happen. But um just for the simple fact, man, is like like I can only imagine if I would receive a false positive. Like, you go to the like for my physical. Think about it. I went to my physical and then, you know, my annual this year, and all of a sudden the doctor says, yo, we notice you got HIV. Mm-hmm. And then, you know, me, I'm gonna say Cree. They say I got HIV.

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And then I'm probably like looking at you like what you been doing.

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And I'm looking at you like what you've been doing. You know what I mean?

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That'll be a mess. Right. Yes.

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And so here we are on a at a just at odds with each other.

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Mm-hmm. And it's a mistake.

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Yeah. And then hopefully things don't get said that, you know, you can't repair. You know what I'm saying? So it's that's that's crazy.

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That is crazy. And I wonder for that young lady, you know, she probably did go back and have something saying. I don't, I just I don't know why she went for the went for the test. But anywho, um, yeah, that that is really horrible because that is life-changing news.

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Yeah, I remember when we were in college, and folks that knew when we were around that time about that girl, her daddy came and got her, said she was HIV positive, and she was out there running through several folks.

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Because she was mad?

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I I think that probably was that, you know, she was running through several folks, and it was funny because people were waiting on that call. Even people like, because as a guy, I was like, I didn't sleep with her, but I don't know, right. I don't know if a guy slept with her and then slept with somebody I may have slept with. You know what I mean? So we were all like, oh shoot. You know, and because that's how it, you know, it's in college, that's what happens. But some of the people were, you know, guys were getting tests, and they were all of a sudden, you'd be like, where they go?

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Oh no. Yeah.

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Yep. And so it was that was crazy. And um, but I mean, that whole era, it was like you can, you know, you hear about what's happening in in Atlanta and it was it was, you know, madness. You hear about people getting, you know, like you said, HIV, and it was all of a sudden you don't see them no more.

SPEAKER_09

Right. So I wondered if the parents um um are they gonna file a lawsuit? Because I definitely would.

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I saw another article and they said that they are. They said they're gonna fall. One because of the the trauma that the the girl has gone through. The parents, everybody has gone through trauma. So you think about your child almost killing yourself and you finding them, and that's traumatic for you. Yeah um but for the child alone now as a parent, you don't know are they ever gonna try that again? The child getting that close, you know, what kind of therapy can you provide to make sure for you to think about it once? We always say they may think about it again, you know. That's why we ask in therapy every time, you know, any thoughts of harm. Any thoughts of harm, any thoughts of harm? You know, and so that yeah, you I mean, it's sad, you know, but you sometimes you gotta hit people in their pockets in order to do so. But then you got companies, you know, they're safe by bankruptcy.

SPEAKER_09

I wonder, did she um was she there getting tested? Was she kind of not doing a good job of practicing safe sex?

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I don't I don't know if when you go and do like blood work, do they test you for HIV?

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No, they don't just test you automatically.

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You know what I'm saying?

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They don't.

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I think they should. I think when you go, like if you if you're going for a physical, yeah, you know how they say, okay, we're gonna do your blood work, a full composite blood work. I think that it should include everything in that blood.

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Well, yeah, but you have to ask for that because I know when I would go, they would I they would they ask you, you want the full blood work for STDs, da-da-da, when you're doing um You know what? They ask all the they ask you, and I remember one time I did say, Yeah, I want the full blood work. And the lady says, But you're the this was the doctor, she says, but you're married. I said, I don't care if I'm married. I was like, I want the full blood work. I was like, it's plenty of people. I mean, that you would love that you're to know that your spouse is just with you. Yeah, but I mean, nobody's perfect.

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And I had somebody say the the opposite.

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Nobody's perfect. And so that that doctor made me, she says, Well, hmm, I guess. I said, Oh wow.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I had somebody say, I said, no, I don't need the S C D. They said, I said, I'm I'm you know, I'm good. I'm faithful in my marriage. And she said, Well, no, I said, I'm married. I said, We're faithful. She said, Well.

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And I said, Mm-hmm.

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I said, No, I don't need it. And she, you know, don't know if he's she here, but they looked at me like, I remember that look.

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Mm-hmm.

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And said, Well, I said, we try to tell her. I said, nah.

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Mm-hmm.

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You know, I'm good. But I do remember that they do used to ask you. Now they don't ask. Because, you know, I get blood work all the time, you know, for the different stuff that I have to do.

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Yeah.

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And but I that is something now that you mention it. They do not even ask. Yeah, that is true.

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For the last time that I've gone for STDs. My PAP or blood work, yeah, you're right. They they don't ask.

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I don't even I don't even recall getting the question asked about um the sexual uh the sexual question are you sexually active? Um it used to say sexually active and you say heterosexual sex or uh Oh yeah, they don't ask sexual sex.

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Same sex sex.

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Yeah, they didn't say homosexual sex, they said same-sex sex.

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Yeah, they don't ask. Yeah, so it's like I guess that doesn't really matter.

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But I mean, but no, I'm just saying, but like, so you know, when they did ask those questions, and you kind of you know, people answered based off of either fear or guilt, you know, and then you did ask them about the test, and some people said based off of I don't know, maybe. Now if I don't ask, they probably don't even think about say, oh, maybe I should have gotten a STD test.

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Well, I feel like anybody that um maybe they feel like now, because I'm thinking to myself, the way that that doctor responded to me was very rude. Um, and making you feel bad about saying yes. And then even vice versa, for you, if you went in and they're saying, Are you sure you could be like, I feel like you're trying to say, you know, that it could be offensive, either way could be offensive to somebody. So I wonder in this highly sensitive. World that we live in now was that considered not good bedside manners. And so that was something that they they take out and they just say for people if they're coming in and they have suspicion of their spouse not being um faithful or whatever, that they'll ask for what they need, but we're not gonna do that anymore because that could, I mean, either qu either way in a response could upset somebody.

SPEAKER_01

But if that is the general practice, then I wonder how much you know, STDs is lurking out there.

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Yeah.

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So yeah.

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But I think the only thing about it is if if they are out there for some of them that that kind of lie where they don't have symptoms or they don't, at some point they do. And then by that time, penile cancer, but I'm saying it's a whole slew of people sick. Yeah, that's other you don't pass it to everybody, but there's other things in your body that are worse now because it wasn't treated earlier on.

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But there are other people in the world that are worse now because it wasn't treated. Yeah. You don't went on a uh uh a travel hiatus because the Instagram, you're a travel influencer. Well, and now you in Greece.

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Well, on top of that, you're also supposed to also supposed to protect yourself.

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You know people don't.

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Well, that's that's also a problem.

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You know people don't. So if you out there all will and taking the plan B.

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Well, if you're out there all willing niling doing the thing and ain't protecting yourself, then it is most likely you're gonna come home with something. You playing with a loaded gun. Yeah. So then, I mean, that's that's the risk that you're taking to come home with something. And either something you can get rid of or something that you can't.

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And then your whole it's in your body for a minute, you meet the person that you're in love with, and then is in love with you, and you all of a sudden the moment y'all together propose or husband, wife, and you give him something, and then he don't even know. That's a good movie, but I'm just saying, He don't even know what.

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Oh, because even though you had something. Yeah, just lying. Because also what I've noticed, lots of people don't get physicals every year.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Um, so that's all.

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But you also think about a lot of people don't have insurance.

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Yeah.

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Everybody out there without the insurance because they part-time of or influencing.

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Yeah, so because what I found is some of my clients when they come in and we do the intake process and ask, When's the last time you had a physical? They'd be like, Well, well. And they don't even know the last time. It's been two, three years. And so if that's what you're doing too, then yeah, if you could be sitting up and all kinds of little stuff growing up all inside you.

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Yeah.

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Impacting other parts of your body. So yeah.

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You over there thinking it's you thinking that, well, I'm allergic to something I've eaten. Nope. Then your nuts growing inside. You got it. Now you it's a it's a hernia. Nope.

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You got cooties.

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Yep, it ain't no hernia.

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Mm-mm. Show like so. Anyway. All right. But that polar, I don't wanna say believe it, sister, for her because I can't believe that happened. I can't believe that happened, sister.

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Believe it, sister.

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That show is the truth, baby.

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Believe it, sister.

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Believe it, sister. That is so sad. I feel so bad for that baby.

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Yeah.

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I mean, but um, I wondered it, I don't won't say that is why it happened, but I wanted it to make her begin to do things differently with such a huge scale. I hope so. Huge scare.

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Because if she don't do anything differently then, child, you just child, some of these children are so lost. Yeah. When I I remember I was in California, and in California, you can actually teach sex ed. And because we used to have Planned Parenthood, they used to come and show them how to put the condom on. And so we did a day to say, okay, let's talk about the myths of, you know, of sex, pregnancy and all that stuff. And so I remember that one person said, they said, if you after you have sex, unprotected sex, if you douche with Dr. Pepper, yeah. If they douche with a Dr. Pepper, you won't get pregnant. And like sit, lay down, let it sit, then stand up, and then it'll flush everything out. Yeah. That was that's what one of the kids said. So it's little stuff like that, and then they was dead serious.

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Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01

You know, and so you you hear all these different things, and these kids, you can't, like you say, you can't tell them nothing. You know, you put on two condoms, and then the lady was like, Okay, let me show you something. So she had a balloon. She said, I this is common. She blew up two balloons, rubbed them together, and they stuck. She's and she kept on rubbing, and then pop, it popped. She said, This is the same thing that happened to a condom because the the materials, when they rub together, you know, the friction created causes them to weaken and they can pop easily. And so it was like, What?

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Mm-hmm.

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She said, you know, there you go.

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Yeah.

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And then the ego of people saying, Well, I got a magnum, but you ain't a magnum.

SPEAKER_07

That's right. And that thing's sneaking right.

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Yep. And next thing you know, you looking for it.

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Mm-hmm.

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So it's a lot of stuff, but you know.

SPEAKER_09

And that's like now, I know in Georgia we don't do that.

SPEAKER_01

No, it's abstinence only. You can't say nothing else in Georgia. It's all absence. You can't say nothing. I said, what? When I first found that out when I was there, he said, nope, you lose your job. Elizabeth told me that in Clayton. You lose your job. I said, what? Say, yeah. I said, but I said, Georgia has the highest or the fastest rider. Elizabeth. That's with us now in Cobb.

SPEAKER_08

She was in Clayton? Yeah. How did I know that? Yeah. Okay, go ahead.

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Uh-huh. But she wasn't, she wasn't, and she was like one of the presenters.

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Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01

Uh-huh. Okay. Yeah. And so that's how we knew each other from coming over here. And so it was um, I said, Georgia is one of the highest. Especially when we moved here. You know, it was like one of the highest the fastest growing. Still high. Yeah, yeah, still high. But it was the fastest uh, I guess saying rising, or just it was cases were happening faster in Georgia than anywhere else. It's like all the time. And so I was like, so what do y'all and some people say, bro? They ain't worried about it because until it looks like them.

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Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01

I said, Oh, I get it. I forgot where, you know, I'm from the South. I've been away from the South, I guess, five years. I lost my soul. Yeah.

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But parents need to teach it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, you gotta talk to them about it.

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Gotta talk to them about it. Don't think they're not.

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At one time, yeah.

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For them to be prepared and not just for babies.

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Oh, they doing it. They're doing it early now, y'all.

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Not just for babies. I think we all know that.

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They doing it. I'm creepy. I know it. They're doing stuff that married couples are waiting to do. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. These kids are off the chain.

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So it's important. You guys need to talk to them. They have so much the opportunity to be exposed to so many things online that you don't need to just think, oh, not my baby. But just to make them aware and how to be cautious and all those things.

SPEAKER_01

Just to give them other decisions they can make. Yeah. That's the key. You know? Yeah. If they ever in that situation, if they ever are in a situation, they have to make a decision. Please assist them with an educated decision.

SPEAKER_09

I love that on The Shy, this last season of The Shy, they showed the dad talking to his son. I think he was middle school.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09

Talking to him about sex and their whole little talk about it. And just even talking about let first learn your own body. Fit fulfill your own. What do you know what it feels for you instead of trying to be out there and do it with somebody else and even for the young ladies, like you know, you don't have to make a whole episode of that.

SPEAKER_01

Maybe next week.

SPEAKER_09

Yeah, it can long.

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But it is a great one.

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Yeah, so El Nashada did a great job. But parents, yeah, talk to your children so that um put that in your notes. Yeah, so that you know, you won't have a believer sister and and your child won't actually have a positive, positive. So that'll be so sad.

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Yeah. Yeah. So sad. All right. So

Gratitude Check And What’s Next

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we're gonna get ready to wrap it up. So what are you grateful for?

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Currently, what am I grateful for? I guess I'm grateful that Monty was able, I mean, he did have an opportunity. I won't say he did have an interview at a someplace close by. And we really want, we told y'all that last week. We really wanted that. I don't it's not a thing. So he is gonna be moving to um New Jersey. So he always had New Jersey. He has had a job, and so I'm grateful that um he gets an opportunity to um spread his wings. Spread his wings and have a new opportunity in a new place and have I call it a big boy job. So grateful that um he was able to find a job. Yeah and hope, and I feel like that's where he's supposed to be. So hopefully um this will be the a great year in the start of his career. What are you grateful for?

SPEAKER_01

I'm grateful for um grateful for my minivan.

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Oh gosh, this guy has a minivan.

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I had to rent a minivan because my Jeep um overheated. And um, so she didn't want to act right, so I had to get a minivan. Um, but I'm grateful for it.

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Yeah, we're trying to wait for wait to get something else till my car's nearly paid off. But uh, you know, I I think uh old Yeller.

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Yeah, she's dying.

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She's gonna need a replacement soon. So it is what it is.

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I don't want a car because I like sitting up high. Yeah. But if I have to, you know, I'll probably give maybe a Honda Toyota or something. I don't know.

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But that ain't what you want.

SPEAKER_01

I know, but I just probably have another. All right, Lord, I'm gonna say it right now. Lord, I want what I want.

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Okay. Okay. All right.

SPEAKER_01

And you're gonna bless me with it. But I am grateful for the start of this new year. I'm also grateful for the fact that since I'm in between semesters, I don't have to see clients, so I get to start my first week without two weeks, right? Yeah, well, yeah, almost a week and a half, yeah, two weeks. So I get to sit in that moment of getting that together. Because if I need to stay after a little longer, I don't have to like just get on the road, rush, you know.

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Home not home, but to your client.

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Because it was it was a 70, almost 80 miles round trip. You know what I'm saying? And like say, with you, but being stuck in traffic, you think about that, that's a lot of time. Um, but I am so grateful for that part um and the all the equipment in the gym. That one thing, that Lou Interactive, is gonna be so much fun. I'm so happy about that.

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Oh my gosh.

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So happy about that. Yeah, I'm gonna be a P.E. nerd.

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Well, you're already a nerd.

SPEAKER_01

You a nerd. All right. What are you looking forward to?

SPEAKER_09

Our anniversary, although I really want us to be able to do something, but we don't really have anything planned, so I don't know what it's gonna be.

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Yeah.

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Um I'm tired of us not having something planned for us. So I'm looking forward to maybe having something planned for us.

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Because everything's just always in time.

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It doesn't have to be though.

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It I mean no, I'm saying like it ain't like we can take time off at the beginning. You know what I'm saying? For the anniversary. Like say, oh, let's dip out for a week or it doesn't have to be big.

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Just something, and that has not happened. That's true.

SPEAKER_01

Well, for our anniversary at all, has it?

SPEAKER_09

I'm not even saying and I'm just saying peer-poo.

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Oh, this week it ain't happen. I mean, this year it ain't happening.

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This summer. And I know we have things going, but it is still possible.

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And when I bet you won't be saying that next year.

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Well, I'm just leaving it right there.

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Yeah, it is. I mean, hey, uh trust me, y'all. It's just it's a lot we say it's a lot. Rip and running, feeling falling, whatever you said.

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No, but I understand. I understand.

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Yeah, we're gonna make it work. We got to.

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Okay.

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We got to.

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So we figured out. Something happened. Don't be looking at me.

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Looking at you. No. And I'm not gonna put you go on and say what you're looking forward to. We'll talk later.

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I ain't looking forward to none then. If that's the case. So, ladies and gentlemen. Now I'm gonna go ahead and for because somebody in that world is looking forward to me looking forward to something. So, what I'm looking forward to is trying to figure out what I can do about this camera. Why is it tripping? But we get it right. That's what I'm looking forward to. I'm looking forward to, you know me, because now my mind is like I g I can't let it sit.

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Yeah.

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Like that was that thing not perfect about Virgos?

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Yeah, it's perfect.

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When it said even your clutter, I know where everything is in my pile of clutter.

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Maybe.

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But you're gonna tell me I don't know what's in there.

SPEAKER_09

You know what's in there? Yes. We're gonna do a test. I'm gonna I'm gonna get a pile and I'ma say, what is in this pile?

SPEAKER_01

You can't necessarily say what's in there. What you have to say is, like when you need something. Okay, they're perfect. When you need stuff around here, what percentage of the time do I normally have something for that? When we need something.

SPEAKER_06

But that wasn't the question.

SPEAKER_01

When we need something, that wasn't the question. No, listen, because normally that stuff is in a pile. It's not necessarily in an organized pile. It's in a pile.

SPEAKER_09

It is, but you gotta go through all the piles before you find it. So the thing is, it's in a pile. But what you just said you know was in the piles, not necessarily, because you got to go through about five to ten piles before you find the thing.

SPEAKER_01

Can you blindly find anything in your um closet? No.

SPEAKER_09

No, no, I don't need to. No, that's not in there.

SPEAKER_01

That's what the cloud, my my piles is like a closet.

SPEAKER_09

Okay, we're gonna leave it right there.

SPEAKER_01

I know it's in there. Like the pile right here on the s by the bed. Those are my cords. Those are my phone pieces. What other pile do you want me to figure out? My shoe pile? I know all my shoes. And if something happens, do I know what I oh me and my stuff? I know that. See? She knows I know. That's why she ain't saying that.

SPEAKER_09

Listen.

SPEAKER_01

So, ladies and gentlemen.

SPEAKER_09

I'm not arguing with foolishness, so you ain't gotta argue. Exactly. You ain't gotta argue.

SPEAKER_01

And I ain't right, don't never argue with left.

SPEAKER_08

That's right.

SPEAKER_01

So I'm just letting you know, right, don't never argue with left.

SPEAKER_09

All right. Bye-bye, everybody.

SPEAKER_01

So,

First Day Of School Parent Tip

SPEAKER_01

ladies and gentlemen, when we come back next week, um, we're gonna have some first week of school stories. And um I wanted to give parents a tip for the first day of school or or whatever, you know, because some parents, this is your child's first time going to school, being around human beings.

SPEAKER_09

My biggest tip is if they crying, drop them off, leave. Who the parents? Yes.

SPEAKER_01

No, you're saying because the parents are gonna be crying.

SPEAKER_09

No.

SPEAKER_01

We had a lady crying up at our school for the B degree.

SPEAKER_09

Yeah, the parents, they the kids are crying, and they think they can say anything to console them. And there's nothing you can say, it just makes it worse. And so what it is best for you just to walk away. There is somebody in that building that will make sure they're okay. And nine times out of ten, within 30 minutes or less, they are fine. And within an hour, they up smiling, having the best time in their classroom. So, yeah, don't worry. Just get in there and let them go because the longer you stay there, it's gonna be the hard the hard, it's gonna make it harder. So that's my tip. That's my tip.

SPEAKER_03

If they cry longer than that, it's something else. Oh goodness. It's something else, they cry longer.

SPEAKER_09

Yeah, some of them are. Some of them, some like I saw a little boy at the grocery story today. He was not listening to his daddy, his daddy tried to get him to kind of go this way. He ripped from him, and then he went. I came back after I got the washing detergent, and he got this uh Spider-Man sucker, and then just put it on the um checkout thing.

SPEAKER_01

And dad bought it, showed it. See that we are okay. And so when he's he's capable of doing that.

SPEAKER_09

When he goes to school, he's gonna be the one that as soon as he hears no, he's falling out on the floor. So you yeah, that I said, oh no, dad. So he pushed, you know, what we supposed to do in the store. I know you don't get no spotted. No, you don't get nothing. You don't get anything. But the daddy let him get it checked out. And I know you're doing that to save a uh uh in the store, but guess what? It's gonna be hard for that baby in school. I know that's right. So, anyways, that's let if they cry, they'll be fine. And it's okay to say no to your children, they will be fine.

SPEAKER_02

It's okay.

SPEAKER_09

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02

It's okay.

SPEAKER_01

All right. Y'all heard it here from the uh the wellness expert of our school district.

SPEAKER_09

Hello.

SPEAKER_01

Former counselor, former gifted teacher, former um elementary teacher, EIP teacher, former uh uh middle of the year long-term sub of a supply teacher, whatever they remember using.

SPEAKER_09

Oh, yeah. That was my first teaching job.

SPEAKER_01

She was everything, child. Experience.

SPEAKER_09

Experience, baby.

SPEAKER_01

Experience. So we will see y'all when we see you. This has been the Refreshingly Normal Podcast. I am Kefla.

SPEAKER_09

And I am tired Cree because this man was trying to work that little camera thing till he gave up on it, and now we on this phone thing, but it hours have passed.

SPEAKER_01

But she wasn't tired, remember, I tried to get her.

SPEAKER_09

But I made it through.

SPEAKER_01

But she wasn't tired though.

SPEAKER_09

Bye y'all.

SPEAKER_01

I'm glad y'all could tell who the liar is baby.

SPEAKER_09

I didn't say I wasn't tired. I said I'm all right.

SPEAKER_00

You all right.

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