🎙️ Episode 40: Is This The End?

When we started Awesomely Off-Topic, we had no studio, no production team, and absolutely no idea what we were doing.

What we did have was a couple of microphones, a stubborn belief that podcasting shouldn’t cost a fortune, and the willingness to figure it out as we went along.

Forty episodes later, we’ve recorded in offices, cars, woodlands, and anywhere else we could make it work. We’ve upgraded our kit, made plenty of rookie mistakes, and discovered that sometimes the best moments are the ones you never planned.

In this Season One finale we look back at what we’ve learned along the way – from the technical mishaps to the unexpected listener messages that made us realise the show was reaching far further than we ever imagined.

We talk about the laughter, the lessons, and the strange places people have told us they listen to the podcast… including supermarket aisles and train platforms.

We also share what’s coming next: new guests, improved audio, a growing podcast community, and the upcoming book Podcasting on a Shoestring.

So… is this the end?

Not even close.

It’s simply the end of Season One – and the beginning of the next chapter.

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:29

You know, I don't know how we've managed to make it, Ash, but we are at the final episode of the first season of Awesomely Off Topic.

SPEAKER_00 0:39

Episode 40. Whoever thought we'd get this far, Taz. We made it, we made it. Hooray, go us. Actually, perhaps people are thinking, yes, go us. Go away. I hope they're not, though. Seriously, it's been great, it's been a blast so far, hasn't it?

SPEAKER_01 0:52

It really has. And quick question then, Ash. Did either of us really think we'd get this far?

SPEAKER_00 0:58

In my in my mind's own, my hopes and dreams, it was, yeah, we're gonna make it, we're gonna love it. As I said, the reason we started all this were part of the reason for me. I love radio, I love the power of our voice voices, um, and this felt like the perfect thing for us to to work with. Um but whether we'd get this far, I wasn't so sure because I know what I'm like, I can be really enthusiastic about something, and then I can let things dwindle a bit. But I think the fact that we've kept going is testament to our belief in this podcast and in our lovely listeners as well, that we've had so much lovely feedback, which I think we'll talk about later, but I think it's so I'm glad we've done it. I must admit, I'll be absolutely honest, I wasn't sure that we would get to this point, but I'm glad that we have.

SPEAKER_01 1:38

And I can't wait for the next 40 episodes. Can I just say I'm really happy about the fact that you just inadvertently split enthusiastic into two words, so therefore you have emphasis on the ass. Did I? You said enthusiastic.

SPEAKER_00 1:51

Did I? Again, did I? Goodness me. It made sense in my head before it came out. I like enthusiastic. Bugger off. We're a pair of enthusiastics.

SPEAKER_01 2:03

So when we first started this, we had no idea what we were doing, really, did we? Do we actually nail Taz, really, to be honest? We do have slightly more of an idea than we did. Hey, come on, with some of the things that have come out of this that we'll talk about in a while, we clearly know what we're doing now.

SPEAKER_00 2:20

Yeah, we do. And I think it's been the best thing to do is just to try it anyway and see uh see how we get on.

SPEAKER_01 2:26

Yeah. So we wanted to bust all the myths about podcasting. We'd both been sitting on the idea of doing a podcast for goodness knows how many years, and what kept putting us off was time, money, kit, this idea that we needed to bring in studio producers, and my goodness, it kept making it feel just out of reach, or at the very least, way too much of a faff.

SPEAKER_00 2:53

Too a huge mountain to climb. And to be honest, with the energy going through perimenopause and menopause, thinking about climbing any mountain at that point, it was never gonna happen. And I think we just kept skirting around the issue, didn't we? Before we just said, we've got to do it now, otherwise we will never do it. It's a bit like when you hear people talking about writing a book and they talk about it and talk about it, and actually never get around to doing it. And I didn't want to, you know, shuffle off to the next place, um, having not tried it. So that's really why we are where we are, I think, because we went in here and we went, let's do it! Yeah, JFDI.

SPEAKER_01 3:24

JFDI. So no fancy studio, no production team, no big budget, no, just an idea and a microphone.

SPEAKER_00 3:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:34

And a laptop.

SPEAKER_00 3:35

And a laptop, yeah, exactly. With bringing in, you know, and let's, you know, we can talk about Furry Mike later, because you know, may he rest in peace. He's still around, you know.

SPEAKER_01 3:43

Furry Mike is still on the team, he's just in more of a back office role now.

SPEAKER_00 3:48

Yeah. Said with fondness and love, as always. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:51

I mean, our goal with this was always authenticity over polish, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_00 3:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:56

I mean I'll if if I look back now and re-listen to our first couple of episodes, honestly, I cringe a little bit because they were were to to use one of my favourite colloquialisms, rough as a badger's ass.

SPEAKER_00 4:10

It says it all, doesn't it? Oh, don't be so you know, on badgers. Mr. Lumpian Friends, fabulous. Anyway, don't get me started on that. They were they were mentioned early on, actually, in one of the first podcasts, I think Mr. Lumpian Friends. Yeah, it did.

SPEAKER_01 4:21

I vaguely remember that. We still love Mr. Lumpian Friends.

SPEAKER_00 4:24

We do, but yes, it was rough. And it it's real, rough and real.

SPEAKER_01 4:28

Yeah, absolutely. And the other thing we promised, wasn't it, was that we weren't going to edit these, aside from tweaking the sound. We've not edited anything out of any of these episodes. I think we cut the back end off one once because we finished it and then went on to another ramble.

SPEAKER_00 4:43

We also lost the back end of one. I think that was the famous um hospital car park one when I was attempting to park in my massive vehicle.

SPEAKER_01 4:50

Yeah, we lost part of it.

SPEAKER_00 4:51

But we ran it anyway. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:53

We ran it and just added a note at the end that it had cut off. Yeah. So keep it real. And we started out with with the cheapest kit available. We'd just got our laptop, we'd got um we'd both got an iPhone each to see if we could do it from those as well. We'd got an old snowball mic.

SPEAKER_00 5:09

Good old snowball.

SPEAKER_01 5:10

We bought a couple of really cheap Lavellier mics from Amazon. And Fairy Mike.

SPEAKER_00 5:17

Fairy Mike? Fairy mic, wasn't it? Yeah, fairy mic, yeah, but you you're saying cheap, you're calling him in cheap. He doesn't like that.

SPEAKER_01 5:23

Comparatively. Comparatively cheap Lavellier mics.

SPEAKER_00 5:27

We love you, Fairy Mike.

SPEAKER_01 5:28

Fairy Mike definitely has his purpose. Yeah. And we only fairly recently upgraded our kit. And the reason we upgraded, and when I say upgraded, we've spent a couple of hundred quid or so, haven't we? Yeah. On uh a DJI mic three recommended kit with two microphones.

SPEAKER_00 5:46

Tiny piece of kit, but so powerful.

SPEAKER_01 5:48

Yeah. Um it's like Furry Mic is a cub, and this is the king lion, or something like that.

SPEAKER_00 5:57

Or some other crap analogy. Legators, that was pretty crap. Yeah. Carry on, carry on. Where you where you were.

SPEAKER_01 6:03

But the the reason we did that is after we film filmed, after we recorded the episode in a car, in the car that Asher was just talking about, I know it already sounded rough by the time it went online, because again, we we didn't delete any of the episodes with mistakes in, we left them and told you what we'd done about it and what was going on. So we wanted you to be able to learn and grow with us throughout this. But before we started actually editing it, it really did sound like we were underwater, which was why we did that that piss take of the Novellan's Nevermind album with us both swimming after the dollar under the water. Um, and we realised that if we wanted to do more in the car, and we do want to be able to use that time more than once, because we we do spend a fair bit of time on the road, we needed to upgrade our kit. And the other thing that really inspired us to give us a give them another shout out of this episode's this season, um, was listening to Danny Robbins' Uncanny podcast.

SPEAKER_00 7:00

Oh, I love it. It's one of my favourite things to listen to, you know.

SPEAKER_01 7:02

Yeah, but the clips of him walking down the street on the way to the studio, going into the kitchen to to pour a cuppa, all of those things. The sound quality was so crisp and beautiful with just you know a bit of background ambiance.

SPEAKER_00 7:17

And there's that relatability, because we can all relate to that, whether you're having a cup of coffee, a cup of tea, whatever it is, those sounds that are just part of our psyche, they're part of us, they're part of our daily lives, and that's what helps connect you with your audience. So I think just the power of sound is beautifully demonstrated in that in that wonderful podcast. It's so good, and he's so so good. And they've always the storytelling in it is top-notch. So I recommend it if you haven't listened. I know I've done that before, but I'll say it again. We absolutely recommend that one to listen to for so many reasons, whether or not you're you're interested in the paranormal or not, but or whether you're a sceptic, and it's you know, it's the point, it's both sides are covered within the which taps into everything we learned as journalists when journalism was actually about fairly reporting the news with a balanced leave your audience to the book. With all the balanced opinions, yeah. Yeah, it's not your place to have an opinion as a journalist, you just report the facts and let your audience make up their own minds.

SPEAKER_01 8:12

But essentially, if we go right back, we wanted to show people that you can just start where you are. And it was always about just keeping it real, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_00 8:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:20

The other thing that we we really wanted to talk about here is that like so much in the online space, again, the barriers to entry seemed huge. And it's a bit like the rants you'll sometimes hear, me particularly having Ash to about um the fact that you should never have to pay to work, i.e. You should never have to pay to be on stage. If you look at the online circuit of in air quotes gurus, you know, it can seem impenetrable. And it's very, very easy, I think, to look at those that we see as the big names, and we'll all have different names for that, um, online. We'll all feel like it's some kind of private members' club. They've all created brilliant stages. Sometimes it's the say that they'll all pat each other on the back and interview each other, or they'll all appear at each other's events. And I've heard so many people saying things like, Well, I need to pay to be part of that tribe because it's my only way to get into the spotlight. So people start swept swept their credit cards left, right, and centre, in the hope that a bit of that uh spotlight will land on them. And of course, it doesn't always work that way. It doesn't. You you don't often see the big names, air quotes again, championing the the the rest of us. And we wanted to we wanted to change that. We wanted something far more real. So there we went. Learning learning audio as we weren't figuring out the microphones, discovering what works and what doesn't. Very often what didn't.

SPEAKER_00 9:51

And what did Yeah, but that's all part of the experience, isn't it? And I think as long as you're really open and honest about that and you're you're not afraid to show the frailties, the worries, the challenges. To some people, it might be really basic stuff, and think, for goodness sake, I've got it wrong. You know, there's my old phrase I love, one of my favourite things is perfections in the imperfection. And what's the other one you say? What's the other one? I think Pobody's Nerfect. Oh, yeah, Pobodis and Effect. And I think that is a great relatability way of being. Yeah. It's a way to bring people in because we've all done that. We think we know something, then we get challenged on something, and particularly with me, with I am not techie at all. So the fact that I've been able to dive into this a little bit and understand it has does most of the tech stuff, but occasionally I've surprised myself when I have actually had a go and thought, oh, that's okay, it works. And I I made this, you know, just that. Yeah. So I've really loved that um part of me that's really come to the fore a bit more doing this and experiencing it. So uh yeah, and laughing at our mistakes when we do get it wrong. Laughter is the best medicine.

SPEAKER_01 10:53

I always say it, it's true. And of course, one of the other things we did was deliberately go out and record before we'd got these mics, deliberately go out and record in different locations. So we recorded in a garden centre, yeah, in a cafe, yeah. Um sitting in the car, yeah. Sitting on the street beneath the Acropolis in Athens on a busy Friday night. Haven't we somewhere we have got a second Athens episode that we uploaded somewhere?

SPEAKER_00 11:20

Because the one we actually shared with our listeners was the one when we were in our very swish apartment that I lovingly referred to as the cement mixer.

SPEAKER_01 11:28

Yeah. Which I grew to love.

SPEAKER_00 11:31

You know what?

SPEAKER_01 11:31

This might be the end of the episode. This is episode 40. So the end of the series. Sorry. This might be the end of the series, but maybe I should try and dig out that extra Athens episode. Yeah, definitely. Stick it on as a bonus.

SPEAKER_00 11:44

I think we should, because that one was actually recorded sitting on that lovely walk up to Necropolis. Yeah. And all the people milling about, and all the street vendors, and all the background noise, and that for me is just wonderful. It takes you into the space, hopefully it takes our listeners into the space with us. Um, on a very balmy evening, wasn't it? I seem to remember. It was just we're there now, aren't we? But we will be back there this September because we're running a retreat for people. Yeah, we'll find out more about that.

SPEAKER_01 12:13

Drop us a line.

SPEAKER_00 12:14

But yeah, okay, so we've got so all these things that we've where we've recorded, um, and of course they brought their own challenges, certainly with sound, didn't they?

SPEAKER_01 12:21

Yeah. Yeah. In the first couple of episodes, we did have to take them down and re-edit the sound. We've never re-edited the content. Um, because we didn't even realise, but we'd got people coming in and saying, you know, the the intro and outro is way loud, and then our voices were really quiet. Yeah. And the other issue we had up front, which is something we never even thought about until we started recording this, is that your voice is naturally quieter than mine.

unknown 12:47

I don't know what you mean.

SPEAKER_01 12:49

I'm the gobby shite.

SPEAKER_00 12:50

Now, do you think that actually? Do you think that these really cool mics will pick that up? I hope so, Asher, but if not, we're gonna have a big blank space in it. And if they don't, then we won't have anything in our podcast. So I'll come back now. But yeah, actually, that was something that really came up really quickly, didn't it? Yeah. Made us realise just how loudmouthed you are, Taz.

SPEAKER_01 13:09

I love you. I know. And how much you wait to do.

SPEAKER_00 13:14

Thank you. Share your voice with the world. Thank you. You're not patronising me at all, are you? Don't you worry your pretty little head about it. Snapping my tummy now, that's not good, is it? Which one? It's passing your boob, actually. Oh, were you? Actually, the two. Can you not tell the difference? That's worrying. One blends into the next really these days. There's one thing. There's one little I was gonna say there's one or two sort of you know, things that might differentiate. Oh my goodness, mate. Okay, awesomely off topic. Awesomely off tit. I mean topic. Awesomely off topic.

SPEAKER_01 13:41

There is a reason we gave it that title, because that's another thing as well. We knew that we didn't want to be so rigid that we'd be having to edit out every little squirrel moment. So again, we've deliberately, we've deliberately let it run. Yeah, exactly. So what else did we want to talk about? Um that's when we first met found Audacity, wasn't it? So that's is it Audacity?

SPEAKER_00 14:03

What do you mean? I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 14:04

The sound thing that I use.

SPEAKER_00 14:05

I don't Audacity. No, or or or orphonic. Orphonic. Is it a phonic? Orphonic. I don't know. You I nodded, I actually just for your your um idea of where I was then I nodded, listeners. I nodded at her and smiled, but I didn't know what the clue she was talking about. It is, I've just checked, it's orphonic. It's always worked through 28 years of being together. I just nod and smile, but I don't She lies, dear listeners.

SPEAKER_01 14:28

She lies. Honestly, you all think I'm the lively one of the pair of us. You should hear her behind closed doors. I deliberately kicked them off because my feet were a bit warm.

SPEAKER_00 14:37

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 14:38

Asher can't really kick hers off as well because she's broken her side of our reclining sofa this morning.

SPEAKER_00 14:42

I have. I really, really have I won't say what I just was gonna say now. I've yeah, ruined it. You've ducked it. I have ducked it. Totally ducked it. I've totally ducked it. I heard it go ping.

SPEAKER_01 14:52

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:52

So Asher's side of the sofa now does not recline, and we've got what we've got. We've got a recliner. We sound about I sound about 106 now. Well, you know, 58 is near enough. Yeah, near enough.

SPEAKER_01 15:01

Anyway, okay, thank you.

SPEAKER_00 15:02

Orphonic.

SPEAKER_01 15:03

That's when we discovered Orphonic. Which is uh an external website where you can pay a fairly small amount and they will balance your sound in various different ways. Yeah. And you can also come up with your own different sound mixes um in order to make your s make your your your audio smoother. That's what I had to use for the underwater car episode.

SPEAKER_00 15:23

Yeah. The underwater car episode. Great, but I loved our visual with that though. What you did with that was fabulous. So it's keeping it real. We took keep talking about that, don't we? But and also laughing mid-episode. We laugh a lot in our episodes, and we have we know well, we hope that you laugh a bit with us as well. We know from some of the feedback we've had, I think we're going to talk about that in a minute. But um, random sort of tangents and unexpected moments, we're keeping all of those in because that's part of who we are, and that's our life.

SPEAKER_01 15:49

And it's real conversation. We wanted this to be real, yeah. We didn't want it to be so slick you'd slip over on it, you know. Yeah. But yeah, that the unexpected listener feedback, that's really surprised us. You know, we've examples to to to mention, we've had Tracy Baum, who's one of our regular listeners, one of my clients, one of your clients for books, too.

SPEAKER_00 16:09

Hello.

SPEAKER_01 16:11

And she often sticks sticks her earbuds in and listens to us walking around the supermarket and both laughs out loud and starts replying to us. So her local supermarket thinks she's a s a strange lady.

SPEAKER_00 16:26

Only her local supermarket. Love you, Tracy.

SPEAKER_01 16:29

I imagine there's probably a there's probably a a photocopied picture of us looking in the staff room somewhere with a note.

SPEAKER_00 16:35

Beware. Yeah. I love that because I've got this, I don't know about you, but I've got this lovely visual of Tracy walking around the supermarket with a basket or a you know a trolley and just having a big chuckle and people giving her a funny look as she turns around, you know, goes to the aisle the uh next aisle to the bread aisle or bleaching into the the deep freezer. Yep. Oh, that nearly turned into a Victoria Wood moment then. I'm not gonna go there, not going there, but there you go. So yeah, what else, Taz?

SPEAKER_01 17:00

We've had Lisa Towns and Lisa, lovely love. Sitting out laughing on the train platform whilst waiting for a train for work and getting very old looks again. I think we've had uh Flick Hamlet Day, who'll get another mention later on as well, shouting back to us in her office. Yeah. And then the other people that we've regularly had feedback from, Morgan Gleave, bless him, always tells us what he's thought of the episode. It's so lovely to hear. Uh Rachel Haith and Jenny Gordon, who run the Rennie Podcast. Yay! Now the Rennie podcast came off the back of our unleashed group that we run for coaches, healers and therapists.

SPEAKER_00 17:31

Oh, those years ago.

SPEAKER_01 17:32

And a few years ago.

SPEAKER_00 17:34

Quite a few years. It's a couple of years now. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:36

We ran an exercise to get people in in the in the club kind of getting to know each other more, and we randomly pulled names out of a hat. They had to get onto a live Facebook.

SPEAKER_00 17:46

You said getting people in the club then. I was sorry, that phrase. In our club. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 17:51

I went somewhere strange.

SPEAKER_00 17:52

Okay, carry on. It's not in the gobby one. She's like a living, breathing, carry-on movie. Um that was my earing, you know. I grew up in the 70s. Anyway, carry on. Come on, Jenny Jenny and Rachel.

SPEAKER_01 18:06

I've just got visions of the the Babs episode now with the bikini top that we know from Carry On Camping. That we know was actually attached to a fishing line to make it fly off as a.

SPEAKER_00 18:16

That was, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:18

Oh, I'm feeling a little plastered. Another episode, it's a little bit.

SPEAKER_00 18:21

That was carry which one carry-on movie was that? Carry on up the kiber. Correct. Thank you very much. Yeah. Yes. Um And what was Go on. Oddbod and was it oddbod?

SPEAKER_01 18:33

See, I still haven't seen that one. Carry on screaming. Have you never seen carrying it?

SPEAKER_00 18:37

Right, we're watching that as if it's still available, it might not be available now, because obviously it's not, you know, it's a bit, isn't it? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:44

Anyway. Sorry, I digress. We did apologise everybody. We pulled people out in pairs at random and gave them questions to ask one another, which they did not get sight of until about a minute before they went live. Yeah. And it worked really, really well, but Rachel and Jenny got on so well that they launched the podcast off the back of it. Yeah. And they've been going strong. They've been going for longer than us. Um, but fairly recently I like to think following Olide, huh? They've gone to weekly rather than monthly. And they've created social channels for that podcast. Amazing. And I've got to say, in the early days when we got stuck with things, they were brilliant to just say, What are you using for this? And what did you do there? So thank you. And in those early days, when we suddenly re realised that Asher was sounding like a tiny little whisper, and I was like a big booming ogress.

unknown 19:30

I don't know what you mean.

SPEAKER_01 19:31

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was Rachel who got in touch to say, I don't know if you know, but Yeah, so thank you. That's been great, hasn't it?

SPEAKER_00 19:38

So we've got all these people coming along.

SPEAKER_01 19:40

Everyone who's given us some feedback on the episodes, there's way more than we've mentioned today. But thank you, thank you, thank you. Um The Deeper Impact as well, we had someone contact us just today to say they'd listen to our Woodland episode, so episode 37. Where we'd talk 38, isn't it? No. Yeah, 38, sorry, yeah, 38. Episode 38, sorry. They'd listen to episode 38 where we were wandering around Fine Shades Woods, and particularly the part where we were talking about what can change when you coach people for deeper sessions in the great outdoors.

SPEAKER_00 20:16

Yeah, amazing.

SPEAKER_01 20:17

And better still, somewhere where there's a there's a grown-up safe adventure playground. And someone got in touch just today to say how much that had changed their well, given them some new ideas for their own coaching that they were gonna do.

SPEAKER_00 20:28

That's pretty good, isn't it? That's lovely to hear.

SPEAKER_01 20:30

And realised how much they could deepen that outdoor coaching work.

SPEAKER_00 20:33

I love that.

SPEAKER_01 20:34

I think we expected a few laughs, we didn't expect as many as we got. We're clearly funnier than we realised.

SPEAKER_00 20:40

Without even trying to.

SPEAKER_01 20:42

We did hope that it would help people to to learn, to grow, to improve their business, to come up with new ideas, but nowhere near as much as we've realised that that it has. And of course, off the back of this, we also launched a a podcast on a shoestring workshop. Yeah. Which went brilliantly. We've got loads of people on that, and already, shout out for two of the people who have birthed new podcasts into the world. Just because we've done this, they've come off the back of it. So podcasts now live. Uh who are they, Ash? They are with Morgan's Cult Comics. Correct. You've got them written down.

SPEAKER_00 21:21

Oh, I'm sorry, I'm not supposed to be looking at them. Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I made a note. I made a note. She said, make take a note, Miss Jones. Go, I remember. Just talking about I can't find my notes now. I'm gonna Taz, keep keep going. Keep Phil, Taz, Phil, whoever's. Oh, we've also know Phil, very well. I've lost We've got we've got Flick. Oh my goodness. Flick Flick and And Come on, Ash. I can't keep talking. Keep talking, Taz. Phil, Phil. I can't I can't find it now. I really can't find it. It was in my notes and it's gone.

SPEAKER_01 21:49

I know, I've remembered, but I'm just gonna let her struggle for a minute.

SPEAKER_00 21:53

Hang on a second. Ah, I've got it. Okay. It's wildly intentional. It's flick hamlet day and verity currier. Is that how it can see? I do apologise for not remembering your name because you're doing an amazing thing with your podcast, you and Flick. So thank you, and I do apologise. So but it was quite amusing because everybody would be laughing at that then as they go around.

SPEAKER_01 22:11

Go look up those podcasts. Can I go back to my other notes now, please? I promise you there are loads more to come because there are still loads in the pot in the podcast on a shoestring support group, and you will get lots of new podcasts coming up too. And I feel really feel like a proud mama.

SPEAKER_00 22:25

Oh, that's nice. That is really good, isn't it?

SPEAKER_01 22:27

There are people who've wanted a podcast for ages have seen what we've done here, and we've we've helped them make it happen. What else has happened, Ash, off the back of this? We have actually written a book also, uh created podcast on a sheaf string.

SPEAKER_00 22:41

I know, which I've got I'm editing at the moment, and I've just had a reminder because we we're gonna have this live and available by the um beginning of season two, which is in a couple of weeks' time from when we record this. So guess what I'll be doing in the next week or so? I've already started on it, but I'll be finishing it off and getting that over to get it out and published.

SPEAKER_01 23:00

So it's very exciting. Because listen, this this might be the end of the first series, but we are going straight into season two. We're not having an episode break, we're just going straight into season two. So, all of that stuff's happened, but what could we be talking about that people haven't heard from us so far, Ash?

SPEAKER_00 23:18

Um well the obvious one is the most recent one. So I'm sure everybody can relate to this. You know, one of those days when you you get up and everything's not just not quite going as you expect it to, and things come up to challenge you and bite you on the bum. Not literally, figuratively, or maybe literally, I don't know, but whatever floats your boat. Um So this was on the day when we were gonna record episode 38, wasn't it? Yes. The Forest. So we're going off, we've got this lovely day planned, or half day planned. We're going off, we're gonna go and go to a lovely woodland that we know over on the border of Cambridgeshire and Northamptonshire. We're gonna go there, go for a quick coffee, do some uh social content, planning for our content for the next few few months, and then after that, we're going off into the woodland to have a good old walk, and they've got a nice circular route, several circular routes there that you can take. Yeah. Said, right, and we're gonna use and trial our new kit, which would be amazing. Yep. So we're off we go, and then we stop off on a bench because Hold on, well, where before we even get to that point, we get about ten minutes down the road. Okay, yeah, so we first start when we first start out, of course. Lesson number one, remember to double check that you've you've locked your house before you go out. Really basic stuff. We get ten minutes down the road and go, did you lock the front door? No. Did you lock the front door? No. Oh no, we need to go back. So we had to go back, that was the first thing, wasn't it? Then what else happened? And we went into the cafe and we did a bit of planning and did a bit of post. Yeah, all good. A bit of posts. Had a nice sausage roll, not very healthy, but it was very nice. And a cup of coffee for you and a cup of tea for me.

SPEAKER_01 24:53

And then we went to set up the new the new kit, we got the microphones out, and then realised that I had neglected to bring with me the adapter that fits it to an iPhone.

SPEAKER_00 25:03

Oh, there was a snort then. There was a bit of a snort, sorry guys.

SPEAKER_01 25:06

So then we spent ages trying to work out how on earth we could do it without a f without an iPhone adapter, and eventually realised that because this is a bit of a snazzy kit, you can actually record direct onto the microphones themselves. Ooh, very exciting. So all is all was not lost, off we went.

SPEAKER_00 25:23

Yeah, but I just say at that point, I wasn't in my best frame of mind, was I? As she got a little bit pissy. Because I get I get really impatient. I know that'll surprise everybody because they know how to do it. In a table, ADHD anyway. Oh, so laid back. Um Laid back. Yeah, I know I'm taking a pee out of myself. As laid back as a can of starch. Anyway.

unknown 25:42

What?

SPEAKER_00 25:42

Anyway, so um that one's destroyed me. But yeah, and I thought about something stiff and starchy and stand-upy. That's called Viagra. Anyway, let's not go through. Um so anyway, blue pills. Um, but what I was doing was I was like, come on, I just want to get ones. I don't know. But anyway, what I was doing was I obviously don't need them. Um what was I gonna say? So uh yeah, I've completely lost my plot the plot.

SPEAKER_01 26:06

So I was trying to find online instruction leaflets. She was. But there was Wi-Fi in the cafe.

SPEAKER_00 26:12

It was lying about 4G outdoors. And it was just went on and on, and I'm just waiting around, I can't get on with stuff. I'm like, then I'm thinking I need another wee because I'm gonna get out in the middle of the woodland, and as much as I don't mind weing in the wild, I don't really want to subject to the overhead um, you know, um birds of prey and things seeing me with my bottles. Yeah, poor things, they'd have a heart attack, wouldn't they?

SPEAKER_01 26:34

They pounce, I mean, you know, kites are scavengers by nature.

SPEAKER_00 26:37

They might have tried to steal your bottom. But isn't it the um what is it that followed the trail of we castrels and spawn elves? Yeah, so they'd have them all following me, wouldn't they? Yeah. The trail. That's a phosphorus. The elements you trail. Oi, but look at the size of this mouth. Do you think we should sponsor a phosphorus trail? A woodland.

SPEAKER_01 26:58

I don't sponsor anyone. I think you'd probably be banned from the woodlands if they found your phosphorus trailers.

SPEAKER_00 27:04

Oh dear, I've got visions of people now. Poor old Tracy in the in the supermarket listening to this, and she's near the rump stake, and they're going, no, it's not. Don't think about rumps. Anyway, so yeah, so I wasn't in a good space. So eventually, very grumpy. I was. So I'm like, I just want to get on with this because then we need to get on home, beat the rush so that we can get back before the traffic starts. And of course we didn't, but he just creaked because Bailey just jumped off the sofa.

SPEAKER_01 27:26

He did. Because my side has got the recliner up because it still works.

SPEAKER_00 27:32

I sounded like what's it out of, didn't I? What what's his name? Out of um Oh, you did.

SPEAKER_01 27:37

Yeah, out of Tad Lasso. Yeah, when you go. Roy. Roy. He sounded like Holly Rose. You are a bit like Roy. I am quite like Roy. Yeah. In another life. Yeah, especially your chest.

unknown 27:47

Thanks.

SPEAKER_00 27:49

Um okay, so yeah, so I wasn't in the best of moods. A bit like now, really. No, I'm joking. I'm I'm okay. Um so it was yeah, so it didn't get off to the best of starts, did it? And then eventually we you get it operating and get and going.

SPEAKER_01 28:00

And get it going, but then of course we can't check to see what the playback's like, or even if it's recorded until we get home because we don't have the adapter, so there's no way of checking.

SPEAKER_00 28:09

But at least it was a beautiful blue sky day. Beautiful blue sky beautiful blue day. Yes. Wasn't it? A blue day, a blue sky day. Blue sky day. Yeah, blue sky day. Bright sunshine, blue. It was lovely, and I said, if nothing else, we've both put on a bit of weight, we will get out, we'll get some fresh air, some exercise, we will feel better, so that's good.

SPEAKER_01 28:24

And of course, we both lost at least four stones that day. Oh, definitely.

SPEAKER_00 28:27

That's why I had to come home and have whatever I had. Probably another sausage rock. Oh, it was chocolate. Yeah. Oh, I want cake now. I'll stop it. It's Friday. Anyway, okay.

SPEAKER_01 28:35

So a little way around the the we took quite a short route, just a three-mile route. Yeah, it is we sat on a bench.

SPEAKER_00 28:41

Yeah, but it was quite uphill. It was.

SPEAKER_01 28:43

If you've listened to the episode, you'll know the bit where we're sitting on a bench. So you know it was fairly early on in the recording. And then just after we'd finished the recording, which was our longest yet, and we didn't realise because of course we weren't timing it either.

SPEAKER_00 28:57

It was an hour and fifteen, I think. It's our longest one. Longest one ever. So congratulations, if you made it to the end, thank you.

SPEAKER_01 29:04

Well done, well done. So we just turned off the recording device. We were about to move down to the car, and I said to Ash, You've got the rucksack, haven't you? Whoopsie. No. Whoopsie. Oh my god. Then we realised the rucksack, the last time we remember having it, rucksack. What would you say then? Rucksack. Rucksack. Rucksack.

SPEAKER_00 29:25

Oh, I nearly said the other one. Oh, fiddle sticks, I was going to say too. It's okay. Oh dear. Well, it is the 40th episode, so we're allowed to. I thought, oh, well, I well I'll be damned. Oh, fiddle D. Yes, I did say that. Yes, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 29:47

So we realise now that we've taken the three-mile route deliberately so that we're not out too long. Because, of course, those of you who've been following the story, we left Tilly at home, so we didn't want to be too late back for Tilly, because we're sure that Bailey and Gladys would look after her, but you know, they don't have opposable thumbs and stuff like that. So we're trying to get back on time. We've also we're also supposed to be going to Rockwire that night. We start taking the track back, and we know it's going to take us like an hour to get back there because we know us. And then, lo and behold, walking along the track, when we'd not gone too far, we see a couple of people walking towards us. And Ash went, Is that our bag they've got? And I went, No, don't be silly. Ours is smaller than that and purple. And then after they'd walked past us and I looked back, they indeed were carrying a small purple rucksack. Excuse me, have you just found that bag? And they kind of turned round looking a bit suspicious and went, yes. And I went, It's purple, it's got a mountain warehouse on the front, and there's a water bottle in the side pocket and some keys in it. So thank you so much to Shirley and David.

SPEAKER_00 30:51

Thank you, Shirley and David. We owe you one.

SPEAKER_01 30:53

We absolutely do. And they'd said that they'd gathered that somebody must have been walking the same trail as them, and worse worst case, they were just going to stand and wait in the car park with it.

SPEAKER_00 31:01

I know, you still need to get it.

SPEAKER_01 31:02

It had got our car keys, our house keys, it had got tablets, and it's got every you know what it's like. It's everything in that bag. My medication.

SPEAKER_00 31:11

Your Assy pump.

SPEAKER_01 31:11

Well, I've got that in my pocket.

SPEAKER_00 31:12

Oh, had you? Yeah. I thought you'd just please to see me. That was the pink pill. Carry on, carry on podcasting. So yeah. So that's the title. Sorry, got your boob. Can you do it again?

SPEAKER_01 31:28

So that day was going well. So the day started with having forgotten to lock the door. Yeah. Halfway through we realised we'd forgotten the podcast kit. Yep. And then it ended with having lost the bag. But then what happened? We got home highly anticipating listening to this recording on our super duper new microphones, and we realise that because we've recorded onto the microphones themselves, number one, it's two separate audio streams. That's okay. We did a clap right at the beginning, as we always did, so it's due, so it would be easy to edit. But then we realise, Gladys, can you stop trying to sit on my lap, please, while we're recording the podcast? Lie down there then, baby. Hello. Large grudel now lying across me. Yes, she is.

SPEAKER_00 32:10

And that's because she can't get on the broken.

SPEAKER_01 32:14

Because she can't get on your recline bit on your flippy foot bit.

SPEAKER_00 32:17

My flippy what?

SPEAKER_01 32:18

Your flippy foot bit, the recliner bit doesn't work.

SPEAKER_00 32:21

Flippy foot bit. Oh why? Something else. It flips out for your football. I know, okay. There's too many F's in that sense. Flippy foot bit. Your flippy foot facility. Don't gonna go now. Gone. Oh god, just talk amongst yourselves. It's much safer that way.

SPEAKER_01 32:38

Your fabulously fucked flippy foot facility. Thank you. There you go. Not in heck. Not only were they recorded on two separate audio streams, but because we've been recording for so long, it had broken down into three sections on both of them. Now you might think that's okay. Oh no, it won't be. But when I loaded them into Garage Band, guess what? They didn't all stop and start at the same place. And when I researched, oh it was a pain in the ass, because every time I tried to balance one bit, another bit jumped out. And what we discovered is that because they're both on their own separate recording elements and their own timer essentially, they only need to be something like an eighteenth of a second out, and you'll get a slight reverb. Oh no. So for those of you on episode 38 walking around the woodlands, where you notice that there's a bit of a shadowed voice in the background at some parts, that's where after two and a half hours, I went, fuck it, that's gonna have to do.

SPEAKER_00 33:36

There's another F word. I know. We're going for a record in one episode.

SPEAKER_01 33:39

So again, Rachel Hay, thank you for messaging to tell me that there was a shadow voice in that today. Yeah. It sometimes happens if you use too close with the microphones, not with these, but with with fairy mic, it certainly was the first time we we tried that. Um but that's why. So beware, if you were ever recording directly onto your microphones, if you've got the one of the pro kits like this one, you may find that you then have to try and balance the feeds if there's more than one of you, and it will break down into segments if it's more than 30 minutes.

SPEAKER_00 34:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 34:10

So let that be a lesson to you all.

SPEAKER_00 34:12

Oh my goodness, me, it was a hell of a lesson for you, wasn't it? That was a late night that night.

SPEAKER_01 34:15

Oh my god.

unknown 34:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 34:19

What are some of the other things that we've we've we've never really shared and never admitted to, Ash? What other faux parts have we had on this podcast?

SPEAKER_00 34:26

Well, most things I have admitted to actually on the podcast, like my really bad parking, my ability to have an empty car park and still not be able to make my choice of where I'm gonna park.

SPEAKER_01 34:35

And of course, when we caught a fart on on sound on on our audio, not only did we did not mind. It was actually just before we started recording or just after or between episodes. Yeah, but still we put it out on TikTok and Insta Reels. So you know we don't even hide our farts. I've got a groodle on me now. Hello. You'll have to squitch a really tiny Gladys because mummy's broken the settee.

SPEAKER_00 34:59

Oh dear Gladys, I've broken the settee, I'm sorry. So where are what else do we want to say about this?

SPEAKER_01 35:04

Well the the other thing again, the underwater car episode was another faux pas, where we did our best to to to make it right.

SPEAKER_00 35:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:12

But I think I think we've done okay. We've deliberately left all those mistakes in, we've left all the tangents in because that's what real conversation is, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00 35:20

Yeah, I think so, definitely. And I and I wouldn't want it any other way, because I think the fact that we're learning as we go hopefully will give confidence to other people that have been thinking about doing this for a while and actually for whatever reason think, how can I do this? And you can really do it with zero, virtually zero budget. It's only as we've gone along and we thought, right, okay, let's let's splash out a bit, let's spend a bit on some kit. Yeah. Um and hopefully that's gonna well we know. But again, you don't need to do that.

SPEAKER_01 35:45

So because we need we wanted to start recording in the car and going to noisier places to record and all that.

SPEAKER_00 35:50

Well, as you said, making the most of the time that we've got between things, so yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:53

So if we start thinking about the things we've learned, Ash, we s we sat down and wrote some of these down before we started, didn't we? Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_00 36:02

So well you know what my first one is. Go on. Because it's really easy, it's like start before you're ready.

SPEAKER_01 36:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:07

Because I said that early on, didn't I? You know, in this in this episode, that if we'd kept talking about it, we can talk ourselves in us into stuff, but also out of stuff really easily, and I could have found problems for every solution, that's typical me, whereas you're the opposite.

SPEAKER_02 36:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:22

But in the middle we had to meet, and that's what we did. Because otherwise we'd still be sitting here, I'd I'd be celebrating my 75th you know birthday. Um, and goodness knows would probably be holographic podcasts and also well, there probably is already, but you know, we I'd still be talking about doing it and never actually do it. Yeah. So and the same with you, and we needed to just get on and do it.

SPEAKER_01 36:40

We did. And that brings us on to the the first lesson I noted down after that one, which is that the tech does matter, but nowhere near as much as you think it does.

SPEAKER_00 36:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 36:49

Nowhere near. You could just sit with a with a laptop or with your phone without a microphone. We've done that too, you know, the the Athens episodes. Yeah. No microphone with us then.

SPEAKER_00 36:58

I think also the um what's the other thing I wrote down? Um I've put it's about being honest, isn't it? So rather than trying to be uber polished and things, yeah, you know, you do you make mistakes, be open with your audience and share it because then you know that relatability again that we always talk about, whether you're writing or you're doing a podcast, whatever, it's when you're honest and you show people that vulnerability. You're not afraid to laugh at yourself and your mistakes, yeah, and take people along with you along that along that way. Um, it builds your audience and it helps people really connect with you, I think. And if sometimes if it's too polished, perhaps it it's just me, but if I see something that is ultra slick and polished, I'm in there. My perhaps it's my neurodivertivergent mind that's going, Yeah, but what aren't you saying? What aren't you showing? What aren't you doing? I'm always in that bit. I'm saying just be true to yourself if you're gonna if you're gonna bugger it up a bit, then have the you know, you be honest about it. Yeah. And just learn and learn together and laugh together as well. Learn and laugh together and just humility as well, it's about being homegoing.

SPEAKER_01 37:59

And we've the only time we've ever edited any of the audio, I think, is when we've done the clips that we put out afterwards.

SPEAKER_00 38:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 38:05

So if there's something where I don't know, we've stuttered or stumbled over a word or gone off on a tangent and then come back, we've sometimes edited the little teaser clips simply to bring the time like time of them down. Because you know what?

SPEAKER_00 38:16

I'm like, why take five seconds when you can take one minute, 35 seconds?

SPEAKER_01 38:20

Ashley used to be a features writer when she was a journalist. I was a newswriter. Let's just leave that there. Okay. And to to bring it up to four ep four, we said, let's come come up with one lesson for every ten every ten episodes. That was a good idea. Whose idea was that? Well, obviously mine. I can't remember actually. I think we're just coming up.

SPEAKER_00 38:41

That was in our cafe, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_01 38:43

We came up with four and then realised afterwards that oh that's one for every ten episodes.

SPEAKER_00 38:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 38:47

So yeah, lesson number four that we wrote down was the best moments really are the unscripted ones, without doubt. Yeah. And there's lots of those in these, I think.

SPEAKER_00 38:55

You'll agree, listener.

SPEAKER_01 38:56

Yep, yep. So what's coming up? Dear listeners, what's coming up in season two then, Ash? Oh well, the new WYSI kit, which is really exciting.

SPEAKER_00 39:04

I wish I'd already used it. Exactly. I just but also the effect when you hear it back. Because we get you get us in stereo, hopefully, don't you, Tad?

SPEAKER_01 39:14

Yeah, you should get Asher in one ear and me in the other.

SPEAKER_00 39:16

Oh, you poor things. It's like being a little bit those again.

SPEAKER_01 39:20

Or a rose between two thorns. A Tashwitch. A Tash Tash witch. A Tash witch. They're in a Tashwitch, like a sandwich. Come with you, come with you.

SPEAKER_00 39:30

Okay, yeah, I think I'll need some mustard with that. Anyway, so um and also of course, what else, Taz?

SPEAKER_01 39:36

Do you know what I really want to try next season now? We've got these WYSI mics. Go on. I want to try going to a really busy shopping centre and recording a podcast as we're walking around the shop. Oh, I do too.

SPEAKER_00 39:45

I'm gonna do it with the background noise. That's what we've not really done. We've done that in the we've had a bit of a beginnings with with the doing that in the in the you know, out in the wild, so you get all the natural sounds, but I want people and yeah, I do too. I love all that because that brings it into like people places. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 40:01

So we're gonna be experimenting with with audio more. There'll probably at some point be a s a next book, I should think, that's the next step on after you've done really basic stuff. Um more guests potentially, um, more sponsor interviews. We've already got a sponsor on board, um, so shout out to Gillian, she'll be uh coming joining us for an episode as soon as she's ready. Um and bigger conversations. Bigger conversations. And and the other thing, you heard it you heard it huh ho. You heard it. Should I try and say that again? I am a professional speaker, I promise. You heard it here first, that was supposed to be. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 40:39

I thought that was a new one.

SPEAKER_01 40:40

You hear it. You thought I was talking about some kind of Scandinavian book sharing event again. I think so. You're gonna follow it.

SPEAKER_00 40:51

Of course. Because we know we have got people from that part of the world.

SPEAKER_01 40:53

That's a point actually that we should mention that we've gone international.

SPEAKER_00 40:56

We've we are really national, international, global, aren't we?

SPEAKER_01 41:02

And you know, the other thing that we've realised, and as former journalists and PRs and and marketers, this should come as no surprise, but guess what? We get a lot more downloads and listens when we promote that episode more. Yeah. Shouldn't be a surprise that. No. And yet, so that's one of the things we've got to do.

SPEAKER_00 41:20

I think she's hinting at me because I've really let the side down on that this year, the lot particularly the last half a dozen episodes or so. Oh, wasn't that? I'm not promoting them, but I'm gonna confess now. Everybody listener, I'm in the confessional booth now saying, forgive me for I have sinned in terms of not putting out my PR um for the podcast, so I'll be working harder to do that to us from now on in. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 41:40

Is that okay? How will we? That's not why I said it, but thank you. I now have that on the record.

SPEAKER_00 41:45

I know, I see it now.

SPEAKER_01 41:47

One of the things that we are launching, and it's coming soon. I'm not gonna give you an exact date because you know, ADHD, but we are at the beginning stages of launching a podcasting community. Woohoo! Which we're gonna keep as low cost as we possibly can and maybe split between having an annual membership or a paymonthly thing. Yeah. And it's for people with podcasts or wanting to start a podcast to have one big community together where we can all support each other. We'll build in live meetups and events, there'll be the opportunity to cross-promote one another's shows, there'll be the opportunity to cross-promote with guests, um, to try different pieces of kit, different scenarios, all kinds of stuff. We'll be potentially running some events off the back of it as well, but that's coming soon. Um, so if you want to find out more about that and be one of our founder members, we would really, really love you to let us know. We're going to include marketing advice, we'll include some PR advice, we'll include lots of different tips and tricks and ideas for podcasts with and without guests, different scenarios, different places.

SPEAKER_00 42:48

And have those moments where we can come up with ideas together. We can have a round table type thing where we can have that and get everybody involved in creating their own podcast ideas as well.

SPEAKER_01 42:56

Yeah, absolutely. Podcasting round table events will be fairly regular as part of it.

SPEAKER_00 43:00

And I love this because it's it's got it's I love this collaboration aspect to it, because it doesn't have to be ultra competitive. I'll honestly, wouldn't it be amazing to have this podcasting family where we can all help each other, support one another, and talk about things on our own shows, but also connecting in with all the other members of the of the club if you like. So I love that idea.

SPEAKER_01 43:19

And also we talked earlier about you know people who've created their own stages. Well, here's your opportunity to be part of a stage that we can create collaboratively. Because what if we also build in live events that are double as live podcasts?

SPEAKER_00 43:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 43:32

There's so many opportunities there. So I'm really excited about that. Really exciting. Exciting times. Yeah. Okay, so anything else we need to say?

SPEAKER_00 43:42

Just yay us, go us, we've done 40 episodes. Um I'm excited for the next 40 and beyond. But also, yay you, thank you so much for sticking with us, for listening, for supporting, for sharing. God, that sounded really, didn't it? Like I was really self congratulatory then. I didn't know. She is like that all the time too. Oh, thank you. But I've been amazed by joking aside, I've been amazed by the lovely feedback we've had from everybody, the support we've had from everybody. People looking at it. Literally all over the world. I know, and and I hope that I know that's going to continue. And I love the fact that the power of our voices, the power of voice, the power of us, we can build communities from this and connect with other people that are other podcasters and our listeners. And listeners that have have, you know, got in contact with questions for us, you know, when we've done our um Q ⁇ A's and things like that, we've done that twice, haven't we? Yeah. You know, they've worked really well for us as well. It's been fantastic to hear everything back from you. Um, and we're glad that it's you know it's making you think about things in a different way, hopefully a little bit, and also have fun with things and enjoying your time listening to us. Or if hearing about your everyday lives.

SPEAKER_01 44:55

Totally. And if there are topics that you would like us to cover, in fact, I would really we'd both really love that, wouldn't we? Yeah. If you've got topics you'd like us to tackle, thorny or not, please, please, please drop us a line either via the awesomely off topic social channels or via the um BuzzFeed um website. BuzzSprout, not BuzzFeed, always get those two mixed up.

SPEAKER_00 45:16

I know. Just think of Christmas Sprouts. Actually, there you go. You're a Sprout fan of a sprout fan. You're a Sprout fan, aren't you?

SPEAKER_01 45:25

I'm sprouting, aren't you? I wouldn't want just a plate of sprouts on their own.

SPEAKER_00 45:28

For goodness me, here's an exclusive everybody. My wife of my partner of 28 years is just telling me something I thought you quite liked.

SPEAKER_01 45:35

I don't not like sprouts, but I wouldn't want just a plateful of sprouts on their own. And I do much more. I thought you would. I much prefer them if they've been oven babies.

SPEAKER_00 45:43

Oh yeah, they are nice oven babies. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Christmas. Good off sprouts at Christmas. Yeah, but there you go. Always learning, always learning. Even so many years together. But yeah, no, it's been amazing, hasn't it? So we really started this off as an experiment, and we're still going with the experiment. Um, but we're looking forward to seeing where season two takes us. Yeah. And takes you as well, hopefully. If you join us, if you're willing to join us, I hope that you are, that you continue listening um and getting in contact with all your ideas, your questions, your comments, your views. We'd love to hear from you. So thank you, thank you.

SPEAKER_01 46:16

Just thank you. Thank you. So much gratitude from us. It all ties into this idea we had initially that you know, podcasting does not have to be competitive, it can be brilliantly collaborative. Yeah. And that's what we're hoping that we'll we'll we'll we'll expand on even further as we go go forth and build our community in in the future. And you know, podcasting shouldn't be gatekeeped, it shouldn't take huge budgets, it shouldn't take massive industry connections, it shouldn't need permission. If you've got something to say, your voice deserves to exist in the world.

SPEAKER_00 46:47

Exactly, Bailey. Did you hear that little thing? That was Bailey actually. I think that was a yawn task. You think it's the time to say, you know, I think he might want his dinner. I think he does.

SPEAKER_01 46:56

Oh no, I've said the D word now. You've done it now. So yes, tell us what topics you want to hear next season.

SPEAKER_00 47:01

We've said that already, don't we? I'm just recapping. I know, but you're doing again what I just said.

SPEAKER_01 47:05

Sorry! Okay, okay. We won't go, and we're not gonna cut this bit either. No, we're not. Season one started as an experiment. Season two is gonna be where it gets really interesting. Exactly that. Exactly that. And until it hits season two, Bailey said. We will see you next Tuesday.

unknown 47:25

It was funny.

SPEAKER_01 47:29

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