Episode 1: More and More with my friends, Maame and Togodui

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0:03

Hello there. My name is Queen Esther. I'm a Ghanaian. I've lived in the US for a little over seven years. About me, I'm an engineer. I studied biomedical engineering and so Ghanaian Charlie. You understand? You understand. But in case you don't know, just to put it out there, Charlie is a Ghanaian's language kind of means like friend buddy. More of like an informal fun connection. So is the way an American would say, yo, you know, so Charlie, what's up? How are you doing? That's what this podcast is about. Have fun conversations that inspire you and me because. There has to be more. Charlie, there has to be more. So whether you wear Ghanaian or not, come join. Come on, come, come, come, come join. For this first episode, I wanted to have a couple of my friends from back in school to get the conversation started, so I hope you enjoy it. you are welcome to Charlie. There has to be more.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 1:02

Hello? Hello, hello, it's your girl, queen Estonia Mitchell. You welcome to my podcast Charlie. There has to be more. I have to tell you that before this episode became live, we went through issues for like one hour, but you're welcome. You're very, very welcome. I have my first guest. I'm so excited and I mean, I'm really, 'cause it's like I know that one day it'll be very hard for me to get them. On an episode because there'll be big people. I have, mommy and I have, I have mommy and I have to go, have to go with me. Mommy. We've known each other for like 10 years. We have to do like 10 year anniversary since rapport, since KUSD. Oh, by the way, we are all from Ghana. So it's a Ghana room right now. Amen. Amen. Amen. Amen. we also have Togo. I call him Togo, like we've known each other since, I don't know, like seven or something years. And we've all been in America for the same amount of time. We all came to America together, so, yes, and I mean, I wanted to have them both as my first guest because of the way they think they have growth mindsets. But I let them introduce themselves, however you wanna describe yourself. Go ahead. You know. Yeah. So I'll let mommy go first.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 2:10

Hi, my name is

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 2:12

My name is

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 2:14

I just finished my PhD in biomedical engineering.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 2:18

engineering,

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 2:19

Yeah, it is great to see you guys. It is been forever, since 2020 or something.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 2:27

Yeah, but we met last year though,

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 2:29

Oh yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 2:29

A year ago. So cra

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 2:30

what did you last time without me.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 2:32

I went to Kentucky for Christmas, so she was in Kentucky at the time. I went to see my family there. So we met

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 2:38

New Mexico.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 2:41

because, I don't know, it's been a while. I went to that end though, like that time I was in Arizona or that end was like 20, 22 or so. Actually it's been like three years.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 2:51

Yeah,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 2:51

I don't remember when I last saw you.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 2:55

Well, by the way, my name is DI, I, I've known Mamy for eight, and quit for about seven and a half, almost eight years now. Started our journey in, KT summer school

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 3:09

Oh wow.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 3:10

we've been friends since went to, I think, actually we all go to the same church in Arizona

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 3:16

That's true. Assemblies of

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 3:18

Mm-hmm.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 3:19

Wow.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 3:19

Thank you for having me on. Really appreciate it.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 3:22

Yeah. Do you guys remember when we were giving

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 3:24

Yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 3:24

near church.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 3:26

That was so unfair.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 3:28

I was like, wow. And I was looking myself, I was doing my head like this, like that. I was like, Hey, Carissa. But yeah. Scholar. Scholar. Okay. So when you guys heard that I was gonna start a podcast and I said that it is called Charlie, there has to be more, what did you guys think about the topic? It's like all about, you know, just me beginning the podcast and the topic. Like what came into your mind? 'cause you guys have known me for a while. I mean, I'm not the same person. But like, what do you guys think about, you know, queen beginning the podcast ly? There has to be more. What, what went through your mind? I want to know.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 3:58

Yeah. For me, I think I was not surprised because I think back in KUSD we used to talk about like this, growth mindsets and also like,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 4:08

Oh

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 4:09

you know, trying to, yeah, I remember vividly, so like, you know, beyond like university, beyond biomedical engineering. You know, what's next? All of that. So, and when we came to Arizona to, yeah, I remember we used to, when anytime we meet, we talk about this stuff. You know, trying to grow, be different and all that. So I was not surprised that I wanted to do something like this.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 4:39

Yeah, so true. Back in the day, report works

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 4:43

Yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 4:44

We were so young.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 4:45

Yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 4:45

we were really young, but we wanted

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 4:47

Yeah. Yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 4:49

Yeah. What about you, Togo? What did you think about my podcast idea and everything? Because I told you like earlier in the year, like that da da, like I told you,

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 4:57

I literally remember when you told me,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 5:00

tell me.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 5:00

wanted to do something similar. When I started my YouTube channel, I remember, I'll be waiting. You said, wait, wait. Lemme quote you. I remember the quote. You said you are putting something together, something similar, but when it gets there, you'll let me know you didn't give details.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 5:16

I don't remember

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 5:18

A

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 5:18

telling you this.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 5:19

down the line, you posted a video of some travel you did

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 5:23

Ah,

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 5:24

and

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 5:25

when I came back from Ghana, and it's true, like three years new.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 5:29

So I remember, so when you said that my mind was, you are trying to do something like this, and I've had it at the back of my mind, I've just been waiting. I didn't want to pressure you anything.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 5:38

Yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 5:39

but I'm not surprised. I'm glad that it's finally, come to fusion. So,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 5:44

It has been very hard for me,

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 5:46

it's all part of the good, right?

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 5:48

Yeah,

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 5:49

So, yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 5:50

yeah, yeah. Yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 5:51

you, when you, with the, when I had the, the title I. I was thinking of how we like, basically our annual, our annual conversations, our annual meetings, and how we talk about good things. And there, there's actually, you did inspire me to read, I don't, I won't say my first book

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 6:09

Purpose driven. Like Purpose driven life.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 6:12

reading for a while, like god knows how long. And then that was what got me back into reading books again.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 6:19

Yeah.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 6:19

Lemme write it down.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 6:21

yeah. Purpose Driven Life. The funny thing is that like I was struggling with my spiritual life at the time, I had had the Pepper Dream Life book for a while. For whatever reason I decided to pick it up, but I knew that hard for me to read by myself. So I was kind of like thinking like, like, God, what do I do? And you just came into mind for No, I have no idea why. It's like, you know, let me just do accountability. Yes, because I don't even know why I was like, of all people. I could have asked my sister. I could have asked a friend. I could have asked some I was doing accountability with, but I said to ask you and then we were doing it. So we're doing it every week. We will read like even the first week. I remember the first week. It's not about you. Something like that.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 7:02

no, no.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 7:03

thank you for that

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 7:04

you'd be surprised now people even going books for me

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 7:07

Hmm.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 7:07

and I'm like, this is a good read. it's really, really been helpful. if you want a book on the topic, just

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 7:13

Yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 7:15

really?

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 7:15

been really

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 7:16

Yeah, reading is great.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 7:18

yeah, mommy. So I know that you were a reader. 'cause one time I called you and you were talking about, oh, you read like 10 books in three months or so. I'm

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 7:23

I love to read. nowadays I do more of the audio books, so like, when I'm at the gym, I listen to audio book,

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 7:30

Okay.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 7:31

Some of the book audio books are like six hours. I'll just be listening to them. So yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 7:37

Yeah, I don't think reading is my, I'm trying to repent and read more.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 7:41

You can start with audio books.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 7:43

I did. I think I completed maybe three audio books this

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 7:45

Mm-hmm.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 7:46

a fiction book. I absolutely loved it. Oh God. 'cause you hear all the dramatic sounds in it. I think I did Atomic Habits and I did

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 7:53

Ooh,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 7:53

about

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 7:54

Atomic Habit.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 7:55

I love that

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 7:56

Yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 7:57

I wanna read it again, but someone has bought it, so I probably have to buy a new one.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 8:01

Yeah. To me, habits is like, I was surprised because I remember one time I read a I was in the bus, so it was a few years ago, and it was saying the fact that like, we are always like planning, planning, planning. Never put action. I was like, it hits me that's me. Speak to me directly. Put my name there. Like. Yeah, so it's like, okay, so I wanna talk about this because it's like when you're a child you have big dreams, you know? So it's like you have big dreams, but before you even get there, I wanna talk about that. But before we even get to like, okay, how do you make the action happen? I want to know when you were younger, remember a time when you were like, I wanna do something different. it could be when you were in high school, university. Like something that was like, okay, I can't do things like as everybody's doing. Is that anything come to mind? A story, you know, when you were younger?

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 8:43

I have a very long story.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 8:45

Make it short.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 8:46

lemme make you brief. Like, so when I went to church as a kid I noticed that a lot of preaching to around prosperity, at least at the time for me. And

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 8:57

But how old were you at the time?

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 8:58

like this is probably

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 9:00

Okay, so maybe 12 or so

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 9:02

yeah, like it was concerning to me because I felt like we, as Christians, we need to do more. Like we need to take a step further. It's not just shouting in church, but it's, you know, we have to back it with,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 9:15

with work? Yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 9:16

And so that made me, like, I started thinking about how can I be different? Like what can I do? But it seemed impossible because the background I come from, it is not all green. So it seemed very difficult. I was thinking of, hey, I would love to do my master's outside, but I didn't even know how, like I had all these dreams and that was one of the reasons I actually didn't do engineering because I didn't think I had a connection. So at least business, I can start self, start something.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 9:46

Yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 9:47

I've always had that mindset probably for my DHS it is just thought like it was impossible. But it's nice to see that looking back, I think the young me would be proud or really surprised.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 10:01

yeah. What about you, mama? Do you have any stories? Because as for you, as for you, like everybody, I mean, I'm sure that when tech, like we could just say, okay, mommy is like, she's thinking on a different level. So what's your story? No, no, for real. Like even the Blossom mindset idea. 'cause I, that's it still, it's still in my mind. So I think, I don't know if I have to, I probably saved your number. Like, I think I wrote your name down, not reply for the book. I was like, okay, Togo and Blossom. That's what the name I wrote. I didn't write Miami. I wrote Blossom. But anyway, go on.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 10:29

Yeah. so for me, I think I realized that when I was eight years, I remember the age because when I was 10, something happened.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 10:37

Yeah.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 10:38

I was eight years,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 10:39

okay.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 10:39

that's what I'm saying. I remember the age because when I was 10, like, you know, something happened and my life had to change and all that. So I remember it, vividly. So when I was eight they used to send me to the shops to buy groceries So when I went to the shop, I realized that there's, this yogurt stuff like the pack, I was like, ah, I can actually sell that in school and get permit, right? So I made that bold step to buy. So when they gimme money for school. Then I'll go to, I'll pass by, the shop was on my way to school, then I'll buy the packet, then I'll buy selling to my bed. Can you imagine at that younger age? Yeah. I think I realized that I wanted something more. Like, maybe the money I give you is small, so maybe I can multiply this or something. So I think that's, that's, that's how it started for me. Yeah. Yeah. That's how it started.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 11:36

I think I was only money coming out of the womb because,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 11:39

Hey.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 11:41

like, no, that's why I went into business because it said I really like money. I don't remember what age I

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 11:50

Mm-hmm.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 11:50

I started work, I would say way before my teens.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 11:53

Yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 11:54

I remember doing my things, doing JJSI opened like a, like, I mean, I would say I opened a car wash, but I had this niche where I would go to. I come like, I'll come to you and

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 12:06

Mm-hmm.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 12:06

I'll go to a company to have this company and usually the people don't have time to take their car to the car wash. my cousin and I would go there. and you basically, are sitting in your office. Just let us know by the time you come down at the end of the day,

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 12:20

Yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 12:20

That's a good business idea.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 12:22

business ideas when it comes to money. That thing has been in

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 12:27

Yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 12:27

go, up to now my dad keeps, I mean, he laughs at me that God was trying to get the way for me to come ab abroad to do my masters, I was in Ghana thinking of how to start Uber because Uber had come, Uber had come first on campus and I

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 12:42

Yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 12:42

I went to my auntie. I was asking people for fun so I could buy a car so that I could start

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 12:48

Mm-hmm.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 12:48

campus.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 12:50

Yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 12:50

bad.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 12:53

Yeah. I don't want to make this more about business, but for me, I think, I believe that entrepreneurs are born instead of made because it's like, if you want to be, 'cause those times I used to be like, why is this person not thinking as like. Thinking like this, you know, I didn't used to understand, but now I realize that no, it's not like people have their own,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 13:17

Yeah.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 13:17

path or whatever it is, right? So it's something that made me like I realized that entrepreneurs are more like, I'll say born to me, they're not made, you know, because even if you're a child, that kind of intrinsic like motivation, right?

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 13:33

You

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 13:33

you.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 13:33

exposed to

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 13:34

Yes.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 13:35

extent.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 13:36

yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 13:36

When I was in Kig, the best high school in Ghana. I was just put it there, you know? Yeah. Anyway, but I mean for me it was like everybody, like I was a science student, so everybody was like, oh, they wanna do medicine. Then things I'm like, ah, everybody wants to be a doctor and nurse. I wanna do something different. So it was like, for me, I think I'm probably the, I don't know, people who, who chose biomedical engineering as their first choice. it was my first choice. I'm like, anybody wants to be a doctor? I don't want to be a doctor. don't want to be a pharmacist. Like, no, like, because like my friends were like, ah, so this my friend, like why are you just doing this there normal. Cause normal thing. I'm like, I don't know. You can do more. I believe in you. You can do more.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 14:18

Mm-hmm.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 14:18

I'm like, okay, I wanna do more than just like, okay, be a doctor. I wanna do something extra.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 14:23

Yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 14:24

know. The extra factor.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 14:25

Mm-hmm.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 14:26

Mm-hmm.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 14:26

Yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 14:27

Yeah. Mm. See now,

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 14:28

you now.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 14:29

I don't know if I've arrived yet. I don't know if it's like, imposter syndrome.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 14:33

Yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 14:34

don't know. Yeah.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 14:35

that's another thing. So right now I'm reading The Alchemist,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 14:37

Okay.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 14:38

it's talking about,

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 14:39

I like, that book?

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 14:40

gosh, I love it.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 14:41

Also heard about the book.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 14:43

I

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 14:43

Is it like a

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 14:44

Audio. I'm just doing the audio. I'm not listening to the audio.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 14:46

so jealous right now.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 14:48

one in the, the something new. Pull on some, this one, something new. Pull on. I think

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 14:52

Is it Napoleon Hill?

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 14:54

Is it about him? Yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 14:55

Yeah, I think something like that.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 14:57

yeah, he's good.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 14:58

things about him.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 14:59

My gosh, it's my favorite

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 15:02

Hey.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 15:03

by Napoleon Hill.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 15:04

think

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 15:05

it's, it, it couples with having faith. See, that book is my,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 15:11

You guys have to inspire me. Like what time do you guys read? I'm trying to really read because I know you said audio books, but I want to do paper, you know,

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 15:19

yeah,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 15:19

but

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 15:20

me too.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 15:20

I have,

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 15:21

see my collection.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 15:22

have paper

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 15:22

I

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 15:23

and.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 15:24

Okay. I have a bookshelf at home.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 15:27

but me, I've not been consistent in the reading,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 15:29

Yeah,

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 15:30

it's one of those things but I feel like when right now you're inspired, you take it and read. If you don't complete it, no one is gonna, no one

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 15:37

Yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 15:38

true.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 15:39

could take two years to read a book. It takes time because it's not a habit.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 15:43

Yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 15:43

So you're trying to develop it.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 15:45

So, yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 15:46

fine.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 15:47

Yeah. I think that comes to the Atomic Habits book because I think before you start, any skill, any new thing, read that book first. The reason being, it gives you that mindset that you don't necessarily have to spend a whole hour reading a book. For me, sometimes I just read 10 minutes, one page, two that I leave. I think it's more about building the habit of showing up all the time, rather than saying that I want to read like a whole hour or two hours

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 16:15

yeah,

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 16:16

Yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 16:17

yeah. I agree. Because I'm thinking about Things in my life where I was like, okay, I'm just going to build consistency and see how it goes. Like the gym, I wouldn't have thought that I would be somebody who goes to the gym,

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 16:26

Oh, that's what I do. Yay.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 16:28

Ah, but it's been a while I went to, but like, what is like doing it? I think I looked to what's going on. Like, what is, how did this happen?

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 16:34

Yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 16:34

I absolutely love, like, I'm all about gym and healthy food and like, I looked at my YouTube wrapped and was saying healthy cooking. I'm like, Hey, God. And like, I was like, I didn't plan to, so I've done boxing, I've done running.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 16:49

I love boxing.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 16:50

was boxing.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 16:50

Yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 16:51

God, I love boxing. My goal this year was running, I'm like, now it's cold outside. I can't run. But like, just like the consistency, I was not looking at the scale, I was not looking at the mirror.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 16:59

Yes.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 16:59

That was my goal.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 17:00

Yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 17:01

liked it. I was like, so even if I fall, if I don't, I'm not consistent.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 17:04

Guess who inspired me?

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 17:06

Ooh.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 17:06

invited you?

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 17:08

you me. You told me that you had yesterday

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 17:14

I'm not talking.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 17:14

year.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 17:15

my also has some, God. If I energy brought it. Yes.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 17:26

Yeah,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 17:27

yeah. boxing is

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 17:30

boxing is amazing.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 17:32

yeah. I like boxing classes. My favorite one is where you have the boxing bag under

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 17:37

Yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 17:38

the abandoned you box.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 17:39

Yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 17:39

favorite. And I like when you're doing like, speed

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 17:41

Yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 17:44

But yeah, I just, that was built by consistency. Jfa Jfa was my roommate. she asked, what's your fitness game? Like, I wanna get, apps. She was laughing. I wasn't serious. So, but I was like, you know, I wanna just do something. Just be co. I didn't have a big goal at the end was like, let's just be consistent.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 17:59

Yeah,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 18:00

goal.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 18:00

Yes. So I think we should look at, back to the Alchemist book I was talking about.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 18:04

Yeah.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 18:05

about like the personal legend. Personal legend is trying to identify like your trying to follow your desires, like your deepest desire, your purpose in life, and all of that. Right? And the book was talking about not just, the goal is not to, you know, arrive. Yeah, it's good to arrive and all that. But I think that, it is about the journey, right? It's the journey that get to learn obstacles, challenges, you be like, it brings the enthusiasm and all of that. So like, going to the gym for instance, it's not about, okay, I want to get out. It's, I think it's about building the habit, you know, the small habit.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 18:45

I,

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 18:47

Yeah, it'll come. Trust me. You're about to get to a point where even if you don't go to the gym for two weeks, you should be fine. if you don't go to the gym for two weeks and eat all the ice cream in the world, right. I don't think it will be crazy than someone who doesn't go to the gym. Right. If you do it consistently.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 19:05

Consistently, you see the

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 19:06

Yes. For me, what be before I said there's habits like again, the book that I have that topic habit

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 19:12

yeah.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 19:13

was saying that even 10 minutes, like going to the gym for just 10 minutes,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 19:17

Yeah. That's what I do.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 19:18

just 10 minutes because there were points that I was going early in the morning. I normally go around 6:00 AM when people ask, I go in the morning. Then there are days that I don't want to go to the gym at all,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 19:30

Mm-hmm.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 19:30

I know it, building that have, I don't miss one

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 19:33

Yeah.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 19:34

I'm not going to go the next day. so I'll intentionally go to the gym and sit at the leasing office. Right. Again, it is about the habit of waking up and going here. Yes. Showing up. So even if I don't feel like working out, I'll just go and sit at the leasing office where the gym, so

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 19:51

Mm-hmm.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 19:53

go back.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 19:56

What?

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 19:58

it was

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 19:58

Yeah, that same thing. I remember, I'm like, ah, this sounds really,

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 20:02

done something similar.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 20:03

yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 20:03

me, I came from work and I was tired, but I stopped at a gym, took a nap in my car and drove

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 20:09

Yes.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 20:11

And, and I know that we do sound

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 20:13

Yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 20:14

I noticed that my habits in like my gym consistency built up.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 20:19

Mm-hmm.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 20:20

there were days where I would just walk in and then honestly not feel

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 20:24

Yes,

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 20:24

out for just 10 minutes.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 20:25

Yeah. It's now automated in your

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 20:27

yes,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 20:27

you wake up,

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 20:28

yes,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 20:29

teeth,

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 20:29

yes.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 20:31

Yeah.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 20:31

It is a habit.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 20:32

It's,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 20:32

now apart from exercise and everything like that, when we were younger, we all had these big dreams like, the money goals and entrepreneurship and engineering. But it's Like, we have to, build habits like the way we think, the way even work ethics, So what has kept you? we are still young. we are 18 years old We're still pretty young, but that's the reason why we are where we are today. the fact that, we've built certain things up to where we are today. But you get here today, apart from habits, what has helped you to keep on moving and pushing, at least trying, what do you think has helped you? Trying to think about myself as well. What has helped me? Like, I'm just kind of curious. I'll go first.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 21:13

No, Go ahead. Read this first.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 21:14

I guess

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 21:15

Oh,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 21:15

kind of

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 21:16

just.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 21:16

I think for me, one of the mindsets in my mind is I just keep trying, just keep showing up. So it's kind of like still on what Mommy was seeing about the habits. Like if at least I tried like even this podcast, 'cause at least I tried. Like it wasn't just an idea on the board. At least I tried. So not, I think that's what has kept me going. Like, just keep going, keep moving. Little by little. I think that's one thing that has helped me to keep on moving, at least like, you know,

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 21:38

Yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 21:38

The little, I think it goes back to that.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 21:40

Yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 21:40

my principle in

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 21:41

Yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 21:42

unconsciously.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 21:43

Yeah, me. Mine, mine. It is definitely those. That's definitely one of them. another thing is I listen to podcasts, motivational speeches. I listen to those things a lot. there have been moments where I felt like not doing something I have this saying now that no matter what you do next year. I don't want to do something, I don't want to maybe do my masters, but because I'm like, oh, it's two years, this, that no matter what I accept, God comes, or

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 22:12

Yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 22:13

like we pass out.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 22:14

Yeah,

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 22:15

Two years is gonna come and at the end of that two years I'm gonna look back and be like, if I had started my masters, I would've been done by now. So that mindset makes me go like, okay, I don't wanna to my old age and be like, I wish I did this. so it makes me no matter what I do, it's gonna come. So why don't I just go at it and at least I'll look back and be like, I tried.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 22:36

yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 22:37

and in those moments where I, that is not convincing enough, I just turn on someone.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 22:41

Yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 22:42

like, goin who gets me off my bat right now. So

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 22:46

who is that?

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 22:47

David go.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 22:49

Okay.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 22:49

Yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 22:49

s

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 22:49

No,

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 22:51

you the,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 22:52

no. Tell us more.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 22:53

I'm gonna recommend a book.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 22:57

that's the book that,

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 22:59

book, that book made me go sleep in my car at the gym.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 23:02

hey.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 23:03

He tells you that, the guy went through life and if he made it, if he read the story

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 23:09

Mm-hmm.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 23:10

that he has made it

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 23:11

Yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 23:11

have no excuse.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 23:14

Hmm.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 23:14

he run, he run on broken legs like that guy.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 23:18

Yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 23:19

podcast.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 23:20

Back to the podcast. I don't know about you,

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 23:22

Yeah,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 23:23

Because mommy, you've done a lot.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 23:24

what have I done?

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 23:25

Yeah. But like what has kept, because it's like even the way I've been talking about like, you know, reading and all the things that you are learning, like what has kept, I know you already love reading, but like apart from that, like after are things that maybe are not, you don't really have passion for, but you know, you have to do like what has kept you

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 23:37

Mm-hmm.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 23:38

you know?

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 23:38

Yeah. So I would say for me, what has kept me going is knowing what makes me happy. Knowing what makes me happy. And I think that relates with, your purpose. I go back to purpose because I think it's very important. for example, when I started my PhD, I was not really happy, I know it was part of my purpose. it's part of, the journey where I want to get to. I was not really happy about it, when I started. But, when it got to your point, I had to even switch my research switch. You go to new professor and all of that, right? So, once I switched and moved to a new research field that was when I started being happy in the sense that I realized that this clearly aligns with what I want to do in the future.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 24:26

Yeah.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 24:26

So what keeps me going, even when I want to give up, is the fact that I believe that you are going to make an impact, right? You are not living the life for yourself. You are living the life for others too. So it'll be selfish if you don't continue to pursue, continue to move on, even if it gets hard. So that's the reason, anytime that I want to give up. I tell myself, don't be selfish. Maybe that child somewhere needs your help, is waiting for you. Maybe the unborn child is waiting for you to, when she comes, or he or she comes to the ward, is waiting for you to help him or her. So I think that's a mindset for me. for me it is doing what gives me happiness, which is pursuing my purpose or pursuing whatever I want to do. And also making sure that I'm not being selfish. Because you're not living for yourself.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 25:19

yeah,

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 25:20

You'll make an impact. One day helps someone change. Someone like listening to motivations and speakers, right?

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 25:27

Yeah,

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 25:28

They're making an impact on your life. So you can also give up. You get it because yeah, they didn't give up, so you can't also give up 'cause you, you'll also be making an impact.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 25:38

a very unique mindset.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 25:40

that's.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 25:40

very unique

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 25:41

it's

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 25:41

yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 25:42

I list a lot of podcasts, like every single day, listen to a podcast or a sermon. I mean, it's true because I wouldn't get to hear them. they wouldn't become like popular people unless, until they are pushed through.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 25:53

Yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 25:54

And for me, I guess I'm worried that one day, you know, I'll go to heaven and God is like, oh Queen, you've done well, This is all the things you could have done.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 26:01

Yeah,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 26:01

ah, you

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 26:03

yeah,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 26:03

that's what I don't want.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 26:04

yeah,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 26:05

to be like, you had potential, but you didn't tap it.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 26:08

yeah,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 26:08

yeah.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 26:09

It's a form of

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 26:10

talk.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 26:11

So, you know, helping someone's, your form of evangelism,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 26:15

Yeah.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 26:15

necessarily have to stand on the roadside to preach about God. Even sometimes your work that you do is a form of evangelism for people to see it. And also you make an impact. People will see and will see your God or wanna worship.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 26:31

yeah. I want to make sure, like I'm also learning as you are doing

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 26:34

Yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 26:36

So I wanna talk about adulting in America.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 26:41

are the adults?

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 26:45

yeah, we're 18. Yeah, 18 and some years, but like, do you. I sometimes wonder, like, I wonder how life would be like if, you know, these past seven years I was in Ghana, I know for sure that maybe if I was in Ghana, if I'm making in commerce, maybe I'll still be at my parents' home. But that wasn't what happened. Like, after masters I came to Minnesota, I've been paying my rent, a car, you know, making money, going through life issues.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 27:13

Spending money,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 27:15

yes, at Kabi it's parts. Spending money.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 27:19

Bills.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 27:20

Bills, yes.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 27:21

Whether you make

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 27:22

Yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 27:22

money, money.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 27:23

you still spend money, but I'm just kind of like curious, like, because maybe, maybe it was maybe the incorrect mindset. People think that when you come abroad, like, you know, things are fine, you know, things are okay. Was that the, was that the case? Or if you don't take it. So if you don't take care, so you think that, oh, I'm in America. If you don't take care, you might just be in your comfort zone. You don't, you just survive. I'm just paying bills. I'm going to work, I'm going to school, I'm doing the paper and that's it. So like, survivors thrive, like how has our outdoor been in America? Like do you think? 'cause I feel like we are a different breed because it's like, we came when we were kind of like, we were kind of like, independent, but independence. And it's like, 'cause I think that life will take you through in a way that your, the way you see things will change. I don't know if you will see things the way we see them now, if when Ghana, I'm not saying that Ghana is bad or know, like, but I'm just saying that there's something to learn. Like, you know, how has it been for you? Yeah. Different. Exactly. Different ex. 'cause we've been exposed to different things. Right. So yeah. I don't know if you guys have any thoughts on

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 28:22

adult thing in the US has been, it is definitely been different. I know for a fact that it opened me to responsibility a lot early. Like even in Ghana. I had responsibilities. I had, things that I needed to take care of. but coming here, having to pay my rent and take on bills and do all those things, and even supporting, family or certain things here and there, It made me do those things sooner than I probably would've if I was in Ghana,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 28:56

Yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 28:56

because very likely what, right after school, we had, a stipend. Even though you didn't have rent and all that, you had to make plans, like you had to buy the chair to make. And then right after school we were thrown, into the workforce how to rent a place. But in Ghana, if I was doing my national service in alcohol, I probably would've still been with my parents.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 29:14

Yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 29:15

if,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 29:15

Mm-hmm.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 29:17

even it comes to like eating your diet, like in Ghana, you probably, if you're home, you're probably relying on your parents though of course they're gonna cook in the evening,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 29:27

yeah,

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 29:27

you don't cook, you don't eat

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 29:29

yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 29:30

it's kind of, it introduced me to responsibility a lot sooner. which was great because it made, it also shaped my thinking. So when I'm talking to certain people, like some of my age mates, way I think I can realize that it's a little different.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 29:46

It is just difference.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 29:47

is,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 29:48

Yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 29:48

It's different.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 29:50

difference.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 29:50

they also have certain strengths being in Ghana that I look back and I'm like,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 29:54

I wish.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 29:55

for me, it's just made me, I don't wanna say, made me go up early, but it made me take on additional responsibilities, a to that, and it changed my

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 30:04

Yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 30:04

Yeah.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 30:05

I think us makes you grow up early, you know? 'cause I remember when I, well I'm, you know, I, I've always been in school, so when I was in school I was like, oh, I'm still like, I'm still young. You that kind of, you are still young, you are still 18,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 30:19

yeah,

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 30:20

when you're in school, you've not really been exposed to the reward.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 30:23

yeah.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 30:23

it's when

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 30:24

you're not paying your school fees.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 30:25

Yes. it is when I transition and it's just brief. I mean, I just started and it's like, oh wow, I have to pay my own wifi. I have to do this. that's surprising. Why am I paying all of that?

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 30:37

yeah,

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 30:39

Because I didn't used to pay that when I was a student, like Apple Music subscription. They said, I'm not my student, so I'm paying for it. I was like, oh my God. You know? It makes you grow up like really fast.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 30:52

The other thing

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 30:53

Yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 30:53

I think for me, I've come to own my thoughts. And own my voice. I think the voice part

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 31:01

Mm-hmm.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 31:01

this year. Like, 'cause like I remember when I finished school, when I first went to Minnesota, people would ask me, so what do you do And I'm like, ah, so what do I do? I have to like, you know, now define who am I, like

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 31:12

Yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 31:13

So I like thinking about that and just, yes, because I was, with some of my friends Nigerians, who are black Americans and we're all the same

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 31:20

Mm-hmm.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 31:20

but it's like they move different,

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 31:22

Confidence.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 31:24

they move different. Right, right. So it's like you have to like, yeah, just like that part and just, yeah, it was because we not even moved to like, even corporate America, I had to like, you know, I struggled that bit. Had to adjust some of my thinking a bit. I can't really mention like one, pinpoint one, but I just was just different.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 31:43

Yeah,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 31:44

to like grow up

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 31:45

yeah,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 31:45

mindsets,

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 31:46

yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 31:46

has

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 31:47

you to grow.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 31:48

Yeah. Okay. Now I have a question about mindsets. like, 'cause you know, from when you were young, you know, maybe mommy when you were eight or to go when you were in GHS up until this time for even for me, like when I was younger up until this time, now that we've, you know, Ghana, then America, mindsets have you had to develop, if you could give examples and what mindsets have you had to like, grow out of like, you know, to be able to like, push for more to not be always be your comfort zone, to grow up, you know, in responsibility, in mindsets. Like what are some of things that have had to change? What have I had to grow out of

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 32:24

I'm raising my hand.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 32:25

Yeah, it's good.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 32:26

fact that it's not possible,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 32:29

okay.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 32:31

I'm not, I'm not emotional guy. Something is entering my eye. Okay. But, no. If, if they had told me that I'll do my masters outside, like I know that there is more to achieve in life than just that. But I would've said it was a lie. this, this time that I was saying I'm, I was trying to do Uber and all this. I, I Uber, I hadn't gotten the scholarship yet. Or maybe I had gotten it, but we hadn't done the visa interviews and all that. And I was, I thought it was so far free, like I keep saying this thing if, if someone, if back then someone had come to my family and said, oh, of us will travel outside to, to

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 33:13

Mm-hmm.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 33:14

they pointed me I didn't think it was possible.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 33:16

Why not?

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 33:18

because, I don't know, it just felt like, you know, sometimes such experiences in life make you feel like. Certain things are out of which, and so coming here and even the entire process, I couldn't really believe it till, I remember till the day we went to Tucson and I saw something. But that's a story for another day. I think coming here has made me realize that a lot of things have, like whatever you set your mind to do, it's possible. as Christians, yes, there's an element of grace. There's an element of who you meet and what you know and all that. But it is possible. And that's one mindset. I would say that coming here as it's, it is, it's changed that mindset of mind that, to be successful. Like if I tell you some of the financial goals I had, they were so little. so, so little, like looking back, like, no, if you ask me, I remember the day the, angel laughed at me in the office with Nanako because the argue was, my guess. Guess what I said?

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 34:25

What do you say, Mercedes.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 34:26

I said my Dreama was a Mercedes.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 34:29

Okay.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 34:29

Like,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 34:30

laughed at you?

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 34:31

if I've bought a Mercedes-Benz, I've made it in life. That was like, that would, that's a, like looking,

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 34:37

Right?

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 34:37

now, that's a small mindset. Like, because what, having a Mercedes-Benz like, come on. Like, is that all you wanted? it's really growing up or being here has really taught me that you can achieve bigger things. Like I can, I can do more,

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 34:54

Mm-hmm.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 34:54

Yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 34:55

that's why I like the title of your podcast. Like Charlie, like there has to be more

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 34:59

Yeah,

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 34:59

This is not the end of the journey, but yeah,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 35:01

yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 35:02

is taught me.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 35:03

For me, I have three,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 35:06

Yeah.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 35:07

so

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 35:08

yeah.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 35:09

I think the first one is, something I had to really learn was emotional, intelligent.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 35:17

it sounds like.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 35:18

Emotion, like understanding the difference between,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 35:21

ah, that

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 35:22

there's a book called emotional Intelligence,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 35:23

Yeah.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 35:24

You Guys

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 35:24

Me

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 35:24

the difference between being, like going to school and be very smart and emotional intelligence.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 35:32

Mm-hmm.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 35:33

reading the room, right? How you communicate when you are in a setting, how do you communicate the things you say, you know, be empathetic. is it hurting the person? Like when I criticizing someone, is it hurting the person? All those kind of stuff. because I used to be brutally. Honest. it was something I had to,

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 35:50

Oh, really? I didn't know. I had no idea.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 35:54

yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 35:55

I can't really think of something to that way. You were brutal. Okay. I think I can think

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 35:59

no.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 35:59

as being honest,

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 36:01

ma.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 36:01

So yes,

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 36:02

Okay.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 36:03

those times I was like, I'm being honest. I'm not going to beat about the bush. I still don't beat about the bush, I'll tell you honestly. But I just find a way.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 36:11

but now you read the room.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 36:12

I just find a way like, you know, constructive criticism, like find a way to tell you rather than just saying, no, no, that they are wrong or something. Do you get it? And also I had to learn how to say no to a lot of things. You know, when you get invited to things and you be like, oh, I want to go, you know, we have that kind of.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 36:32

Fear of missing

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 36:33

I said, I wanna be part of this. This person invited you, go like learning how to say no to things. If I can't do it, I can't meet you. I can't go. I'll tell you No, I don't like, no matter who you are, I'll say no. Right. Sometimes you need that space. You need,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 36:48

yeah.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 36:48

you don't need to be part of things. Then the last one is, if you're invited for something, you don't take things lightly. prepare yourself, to go, maybe they told you to have a presentation. Do your best. take it as if you're going to make a million dollar deal.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 37:03

Yeah,

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 37:03

You know, like, prepare

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 37:06

yeah,

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 37:07

so well. Like, don't take, even if it's a small, you don't take it lightly because you don't know who is in the audience. Right. So it's something I had to learn, like just prepare, get ready for, you know. Yeah. Don't take it like, like, oh, this person, I know this person. So no, if it is networking, read our other person, like, you know, get to know things about other person or, and also ask yourself, what am I going to also offer to the person? You know? So it's like, just get ready at any time when you get invited for stuff.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 37:38

I think for me, I've had to learn to, well, that wasn't what I was thinking about, but I've had to learn how to trust myself, like, believe in myself. You have to believe if nobody believes

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 37:45

yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 37:46

is

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 37:46

Yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 37:46

in yourself. You, you know, even if like, just believe in

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 37:49

Yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 37:50

That's one thing that I've had to learn

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 37:52

Yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 37:53

yeah.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 37:54

And

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 37:54

God very personally too.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 37:56

Oh yeah,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 37:57

I know I was very close to my Christian, but it's like, as an adult, it's a different ball game

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 38:01

Yeah,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 38:02

Yeah. So like, I'd had to learn to like really trust in God, like if somebody was behind me I was trying to like, you know, drop myself, like I can do that completely, you know, in every part of my life.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 38:12

yeah,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 38:12

in my career, in my family,

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 38:14

yeah,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 38:14

I've had to learn to do that consistently.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 38:17

last, I was telling someone that the truth test of your Christianity is when you come to us, because when you come to us, you are bombarded with a lot of things. it's not like Ghana, that the next door, you see someone praying like there's a church close to you. So it pushes, it motivates you. You see it most.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 38:35

you have to be very, very

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 38:36

You want to participate here, you don't see that. You have to be intentional. It's when you have to build that kind of personal relationship with God. It's when this is the place that you have to get to know God by yourself, because you don't go to church from Monday to Sunday, you know?

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 38:52

And I think when you build that too, you can't go back to the way it was

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 38:55

yes,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 38:56

you, especially strengths would've developed.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 38:57

yes.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 38:58

Yeah.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 38:59

And also, of course, should you compete, you know, compare yourself with anyone. I think that's another thing I had to learn, because we all have our times like season

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 39:08

my God. Ah, the comparing thing.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 39:12

on,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 39:13

Yeah, I actually was an episode about that.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 39:15

Yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 39:16

it's like there'll be a season where I'm like, oh, I'm good if me and God, we are not comparing. Focus on your agenda, focus on your seasons. I'm like, oh God, what's happening with my life?

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 39:25

Right.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 39:26

it's been seasoned. So it's like,

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 39:27

Yeah,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 39:27

back to like, why shouldn't I

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 39:29

yeah,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 39:29

to the point I had to, God even showed me like that. I was comparing in a dream. I'm like, okay, you have like, I had a dream about like, you know, God telling me that queen don't compare. Look at yourself. Look at all the things that you are looking for. Like you are looking at this person for this particular thing, but look at you. You have the exact same thing

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 39:45

yeah,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 39:45

it is design made for you.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 39:47

yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 39:47

So like, okay,

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 39:48

Yeah,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 39:49

it's just like the comparison thing.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 39:50

yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 39:50

to grow out

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 39:51

Yeah. I think I got to a point where I had to turn me comparing myself to someone, to Being a motivation for you to,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 40:01

Yes.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 40:02

yes.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 40:02

Yes,

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 40:03

Yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 40:04

yes. I think I had somebody, sorry. Go on.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 40:06

No, it is a question, so finish your chain of

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 40:08

I wanna say that they put that you should be, you know, learning from, are they people that you're comparing

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 40:12

Yes.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 40:13

So instead people that you feel like they're

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 40:14

See it in a positive way.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 40:16

what can you learn?

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 40:17

Yes,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 40:18

way,

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 40:18

yes.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 40:18

there's something that you can pick

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 40:19

Yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 40:20

you can learn from them.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 40:21

do you think some of these things would've lent it if we were in Ghana? Because I,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 40:25

Hmm.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 40:26

a, a part of me is getting the concept of, I agree that a lot of it happened here. I feel like based on the mindset thing and you wanted to grow, you probably would've come across books, podcasts,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 40:43

Would've found a way.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 40:44

Yes.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 40:45

Yeah,

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 40:46

I probably have some Ghanaian audiences too, so I just want to say that it's, it's. You don't need to be in the US to have some of these

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 40:56

yeah,

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 40:57

it's just because of the exposure it gave us. So now we had a broader mentality to look outside

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 41:04

Yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 41:04

So in Ghana you can look outside the

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 41:06

yeah.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 41:06

Yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 41:07

yes, you can. Some of these things we are talking about. there are people in Ghana who are so emotionally

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 41:13

Mm-hmm.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 41:14

that I'm like, Hey, if I could get 50% of what this person has,

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 41:18

Yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 41:19

like, I would be so

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 41:20

Mm-hmm.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 41:21

Like you have, there are people who have these characteristics, so you, we definitely can go

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 41:28

Yeah. I think the whole concept of the blossom mindset thing actually started in Ghana, like

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 41:34

Yeah.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 41:35

today.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 41:35

remember long time, like

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 41:38

My inspiration was actually from the Bible. When I read John 10 10, that was my experience. She said, the devil came to school you and destroy, or horses to give you life in abundance.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 41:51

in abundance.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 41:52

That's the whole blood

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 41:53

Wow.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 41:54

So when I realized that, okay, life in abundance, so, okay, it's not necessarily, it's not only my Christian life, right? It's also my life here on earth. How can, what can I do to live that life? And it's not only about money. When I talk about that, people think it is okay, it is about money, it's about cars. And no, it goes beyond that. It's like everything you do, right? How can I maximize this? How can I live that life in abundance that God is talking about? That's my mindset throughout every, yeah, so it's, it's my experience from the Bible. It's not because I watch podcast or anything, it's just from the Bible, right?

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 42:33

The Bible is the best inspiration. Honestly, I don't know how I would be thinking if it wasn't for the word of

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 42:39

Yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 42:39

mm-hmm. You know, everything that, even like the podcasting, there has to be more, I think, I think that a lot of people think that way about like when you're a child of God, like it's kind of like brewing inside you. Like, ah, there has to be more.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 42:54

it has to.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 42:54

that inspiration

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 42:55

Yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 42:55

be more like

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 42:57

Yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 42:57

There has to be more like,

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 42:58

Yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 42:58

know, serving people, impacting people.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 43:01

Yeah. And even Jesus, Jesus was like, the things I'm doing, if you believe it, you'll do more than the things I did than what I came to do.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 43:09

so

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 43:10

this the most Scriptures we by we could,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 43:14

hey. It's been a while.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 43:17

like, it's been a long time.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 43:18

Oh,

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 43:19

left towers 20,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 43:20

2020

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 43:22

They went to, the,

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 43:23

west

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 43:23

Ah,

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 43:25

Then when we came back, my perception of you is 2018 to

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 43:29

I think a lot of people have.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 43:31

so you can imagine

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 43:32

Yeah. The person

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 43:33

perceptions.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 43:35

so you've got,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 43:36

yeah,

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 43:36

remember the day you said that Maia and I, get along, have a similar mess.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 43:39

yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 43:39

mean?

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 43:40

Yeah. I remember I told you that. I was thinking of having the two of you together because you guys are similar in that way,

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 43:44

Yeah, told me that.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 43:46

like,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 43:47

you said.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 43:48

what you were

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 43:49

I think you told him

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 43:50

Oh

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 43:51

Yeah, he told

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 43:52

yeah.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 43:52

me.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 43:53

Like

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 43:53

He told me about it.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 43:54

and I'm like,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 43:57

No.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 43:58

wow.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 43:59

yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 44:00

Yeah. Like you've, yeah. You've really,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 44:03

Yeah, you're

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 44:03

it's,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 44:04

Yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 44:06

I, I'm just, as soon as this ends, I'm oring The books

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 44:10

The alchemy.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 44:12

Chemist.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 44:12

those two, so I'm really

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 44:14

Yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 44:14

I'm like, interesting.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 44:16

And also I wrote down, you can't hurt me.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 44:18

Yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 44:18

down.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 44:19

they can me if he started by Stock pd,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 44:22

Hey.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 44:22

the guy

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 44:22

Yeah. But you guys like think and go Napoleon. He is good now. Oh my gosh.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 44:28

I feel like I've

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 44:28

Yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 44:29

not read which that portal, which I think now is

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 44:32

Well, think

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 44:32

It's outdated.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 44:34

yeah,

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 44:34

There's another,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 44:34

We are already an hour past,

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 44:36

there's another book. It's called, I'll Teach You How to Be Rich

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 44:38

Oh yeah, that

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 44:39

Second. Yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 44:41

I've read that book

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 44:41

yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 44:42

wow.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 44:44

US Investment.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 44:44

I've read Driven, purpose, driven Life, I think twice. when I read and I really like it, I

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 44:51

Yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 44:52

I feel like

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 44:52

Yeah. I'll read.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 44:53

Because you would think differently too when you're reading this again.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 44:56

True.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 44:57

Yeah,

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 44:58

I read,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 44:58

because I was like, I was so shocked how I was thinking different.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 45:01

Yeah,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 45:02

I remember what had said, now it hits

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 45:03

it makes me think I'm cloud nine. Anytime I read

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 45:06

I

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 45:06

and I'll come and post something,

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 45:07

don't get.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 45:13

you.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 45:13

Mm-hmm.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 45:14

I think it, it's like preaching some men of God when I listen to them is like, I'm healed some men of God. You guys have felt that, you know, some men of God speak to you.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 45:25

I know what you mean.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 45:26

You know, like for me, people

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 45:28

I

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 45:28

Pastor Chris, people like,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 45:30

I

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 45:30

Soman

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 45:30

miss out

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 45:30

people like

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 45:31

See, you see mine? Mine, mine,

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 45:33

who.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 45:35

Who is your person?

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 45:36

Like when you said me, I, you sell

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 45:39

Joseph as someone welfare at Reverend.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 45:41

He's the most listened

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 45:42

I live

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 45:43

On my YouTube.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 45:44

Who?

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 45:45

like my

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 45:46

Who?

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 45:46

person. Usually

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 45:47

Oh, okay.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 45:48

yeah. Well, actually pointed me to him.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 45:50

yeah. Someone is, Life lessons,

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 45:52

they,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 45:52

Yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 45:52

there are people

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 45:53

and

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 45:54

I feel like everyone

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 45:55

yes, everyone has, you have people that speak to you, and I think it's very important for you to identify that, it's the same as books too. how someone can read a book and it's like the person has received a revelation from God, but you go and read it and it is like, ah, I can't see that

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 46:12

Yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 46:12

what? Talking

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 46:13

I'm like, oh, well I want share this.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 46:15

You have,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 46:15

they don't

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 46:15

yes, you have to.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 46:17

I know I learned, actually learned that this year, not gonna lie. I have the mindset and I'm trying to balance it, but I got a feedback from a friend and it was more or less like when I. It's like sometimes I force my things on people and I'm like, but

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 46:34

Oh God.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 46:35

my mindset is when I find something good or I find out that something someone is doing is bad, I want the best for you.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 46:42

Yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 46:43

lemme give a typical example. When I hear of older people and they're talking about diabetes, high cholesterol, this, this, and I'm talking to my colleagues and some of my colleagues, they're pre, pre-diabetic. I'm like, hold on. then now I find out that, oh, this is good. Like exercise, go for even,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 47:03

Yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 47:04

for like exercising, at least go for a hike. Go for do this, then I know people who from here to here do like, but when I try to tell them, and it is like they're not getting it. I'm worried about their future, like are they going? Like, are we going to go old and you'll be sick? so I tried To go, but it's like they don't want to. and so I'm trying to learn that balance of you. The way you see, the way you see something might not, the person might not necessarily see it

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 47:34

The same way.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 47:35

Maybe I need to communicate it differently or sometimes I just have to learn certain things.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 47:40

Oh, you just pray.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 47:41

on that,

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 47:42

See, I know it sounds great. It's like that's sometimes I'm coming back to evangelism again. Your life is like evangelism. Yeah. You know, preaching, right. You just, it's like evangelism. You can speak to the person and. Nothing will happen. It's the Holy Spirit that will help. Right. So it's the same thing when you tell someone, a person doesn't get, just pray that one day the person comes to the realization. You know, there are some things that in the past people were saying things we didn't understand. It gets when you get to a point.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 48:11

I try

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 48:12

You understand?

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 48:12

Yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 48:14

like, I don't wanna be successful alone.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 48:17

Mm.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 48:18

at the top.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 48:18

No, I think you need to,

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 48:19

I'm not there.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 48:20

I think you need,

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 48:21

I'm

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 48:21

yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 48:22

I'm trying to get there and I wanna there with my

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 48:26

I think you need to get to a point where you realize that it is like buying Lamborghini versus Toyota, right? How many people drive at Lamborghini? Few. If you want to get to the top, I think you have to get to the realizing not everyone can be like not

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 48:44

Not

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 48:44

everyone.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 48:44

to

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 48:45

When you are growing certain friends that you are really close, sometimes it'll hurt that, oh, I was really close to this person, but I'm now, I'm not close to this person. You have to accept that because it's good, like when you are getting to a certain point, you can't drag so

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 48:57

Yeah.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 48:58

changed.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 48:59

Yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 49:00

Mm.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 49:00

Mindset is different. You can't be friends with them.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 49:03

masters is more moving towards like, not necessarily that we are not close, but maybe we are friends in this category,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 49:10

Mm-hmm.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 49:10

but not necessarily like this

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 49:13

That's very important.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 49:16

I can tell

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 49:17

Mm-hmm.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 49:17

but that's it. I'm not,

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 49:18

Yes.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 49:19

You can't

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 49:20

yeah. It's something I also realized you like you should have friends that fall in a certain category. There's some people you can't. I can't go and preach to that. I can't talk about God to them. There's some people I can't go and talk about business, don't not understand what I'm saying. You should have those, but they can help me with, maybe I've done something wrong though. Chastise me. so you should have friends that falls in certain categories. There are some people that you can talk to them about anything. There are friends like that too, right? So you should know like the kind of friends that you have and the kind of conversations you can have with. There are some people, if I want to maybe braid my hair or any advice or makeup, I can go to them, but I can't go and tell them that, oh, I'm going for boxing. Like, you wanna join?

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 50:03

Yes,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 50:03

yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 50:05

something

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 50:05

Yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 50:05

I learned that this year. I think it was,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 50:07

Yeah, I think I kind of like something similar, because for me, I realized that I like to insist on my own way. I'm saying it like this because there's a bible said that lab does not insist on its own

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 50:18

Yeah,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 50:18

if it must be done, it has to be this

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 50:21

yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 50:21

I was like, yeah, yeah, it has to be this one. I was like, okay, no, I can't. 'cause I'm like, I'm buying a gift for a friend. I was like, nah, I can't do that. I have to listen to, I mean, lab does not insist on its

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 50:34

Yeah,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 50:34

you can't control things like that. So I had to let that go. That was this year?

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 50:38

yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 50:39

Yeah. Yeah. I wrote down this question as far as growth is concerned, what would you think your younger self would do? Because in my mind I'm like, I mean, we didn't get here from, you know, step one to step 10. It's like a thousand step, thousand step journey, but it's like we are on step 10 to our next 10, but it's like we didn't just jump from one to 10. So what would you think your younger self for doing? I would start,

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 51:03

What?

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 51:03

Thank,

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 51:03

I don't

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 51:03

What would I thank?

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 51:05

yeah.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 51:06

Oh, thank

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 51:06

my

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 51:07

my younger self for,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 51:08

For doing, I.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 51:10

I would thank my younger self for allowing herself to learn and to adapt to changes, sometimes you can be in the midst of that change, but you're not changing yourself. you don't want to grow. even though it was very uncomfortable to grow or to learn and unlearn things and all that, like having, trying to have your own way, not trying to be open minded to someone. I think I would just say that just allowing myself to grow, like allowing my, I mean I thank my younger self, allowing myself to grow and to be open minded and, go out of my comfort zone.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 51:53

Yeah,

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 51:54

Yeah. That's what, and of course I think it is God, for me, I always say it is God. It is. transform your, your mind, you know, renew your life.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 52:02

mind.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 52:03

important. Like, and be that new creation. That's my favorite space. Second creation, chapter five and seven. Yeah. Like, so behold the new has come.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 52:13

yeah.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 52:13

having that mindset that like, you're a new person, you are change, you can't go to the old ways.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 52:18

whole new DNA.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 52:19

Yeah. So even if you are, you have that because you're human. You have the tendency of going in your old ways. you tell yourself that, Hmm. You need to grow up. Like, I always tell myself that, mom, you need to grow up. If I make a mistake, I tell myself, you need to grow up. you need to go out.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 52:33

Yeah, sometimes you sound the same, talking to yourself.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 52:35

I talk to myself a lot.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 52:37

and then someone is next to me. They'll be like,

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 52:39

Yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 52:39

okay? I'm fine.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 52:41

Yeah. you need to grow up. and another thing, if you make a mistake, try to think through the mistake, why you made that mistake. And, you know, just be, don't be too hard on yourself. You know, I think that's,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 52:53

God.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 52:53

learned don't be too, like,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 52:55

Speak to me directly.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 52:57

don't be too hard at yourself if you, it's okay. You've made a mistake. It has happened.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 53:01

Yeah,

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 53:02

It has happened. think about it. Okay, what did I do wrong? How can I do better?

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 53:06

Yeah.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 53:07

That's it.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 53:08

just like a project, okay lead, put it on a board.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 53:10

Yes.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 53:11

and now I'll break it down,

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 53:12

Yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 53:13

I really like that

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 53:14

Yes.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 53:14

I really

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 53:15

You need to go. I expect, I explain to myself, but when I make mistakes, like I'll be like, you need to grow up. Like maybe if I need to clean my room, my room looks messed. you need to grow up, like assuming your husband, maybe you have a husband and the husband is here. Will you be like, you know, like you just yourself.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 53:30

Yeah. Talk to yourself. Yeah, I think I'll go next. I think one of the things I'm really proud of my anger self for doing is being confident. Even though sometimes my confidence was kind of like immature, you know, sometimes, but I'm really proud of, 'cause I feel like even my first step into the company I worked on was like a confidence thing. Like, you know, even if, I'm just glad that, I was confident to just dream and

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 53:51

Yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 53:52

like, just the confidence. I'm

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 53:53

Yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 53:53

proud of myself. I'm proud of myself of like just writing down ideas. I have this book

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 53:58

Mm-hmm.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 53:59

podcast,

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 54:00

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 54:01

to begin from scratch. Like just writing down ideas.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 54:03

Mm-hmm.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 54:03

down your ideas. So like, just being able to dream and thinking big and I'll thank myself for that. And just being confident because I have to go back. I was like, okay. When I was younger I was confident. So Queen you is there Like, just keep on, just

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 54:14

Yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 54:15

it's tough now, but you know, just keep on. I'll just say that I'm also really grateful for the Holy Spirit. I thank God that I started knowing God in my early age. 'cause I met God personally. It wasn't like, you

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 54:26

Yeah, right.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 54:27

So it's like, I'm really glad

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 54:29

yeah,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 54:30

have got to

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 54:30

yeah,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 54:31

Even when I struggle, I can still go back and still grow

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 54:35

yeah,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 54:35

expand and learn.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 54:36

yeah,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 54:37

thank you younger

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 54:38

yeah, yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 54:38

great.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 54:39

With the Holy Spirit, it's, really

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 54:41

really amazing.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 54:43

if you really want to know more about the holy, just read Good Money, holy Spirit, you are welcome,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 54:47

I

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 54:47

holy Spirit

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 54:48

Yeah, I

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 54:49

by,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 54:49

morning.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 54:49

what's his name?

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 54:51

Benny. Hi. I know you're a big fan

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 54:52

I went to meet him. I went to one of his programs.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 54:55

Yeah,

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 54:55

So that will really help because the Holy Spirit is there for us, you know,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 54:59

Yes.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 55:00

guide us to lead us directions,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 55:02

Yeah,

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 55:03

you there some quite like, even technically, like when I'm in presentation, I don't know what I'm talking, I'll just like speak through me, give me, give like, you know, everything.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 55:14

yeah.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 55:15

yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 55:15

one thing I've also learned as an adult is like, not to limit God with's, unbelief.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 55:19

Yes.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 55:19

Like you don't believe God, like what's the point?

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 55:21

Yeah,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 55:21

can go as far as how much you believe in, do you believe in God? Like that he can do, like bring back to what Togo was saying about the fact that he didn't think it was possible for him to get a master

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 55:29

yeah,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 55:30

do you, like I have to believe God even before I believe in myself. Like even so it's like that belief.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 55:37

Or sometimes even when you're not believing God, you just, God forgive me for my own belief.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 55:42

me.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 55:42

Yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 55:43

with God.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 55:44

That's amazing.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 55:45

I don't even like going back to the God me, 'cause it's like even being vulnerable with God, like telling God you're petty things.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 55:50

Oh yeah. I'm very vulnerable. Even when I say now, God, I did it,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 55:58

yes.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 55:59

I'll,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 56:03

I think that's like, that's one of the like most intimate times with God. Like when you

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 56:07

it's important.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 56:08

it was, I had to go back. Charlie. Like that was my intimate moment to

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 56:10

Yeah,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 56:11

being vulnerable,

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 56:12

yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 56:12

to be strong

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 56:13

Yeah. Being, being vulnerable. And also, it's not always like prayer, prayer. You just talk,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 56:17

talk.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 56:17

just talking, you know?

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 56:19

your thoughts,

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 56:19

Yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 56:20

it down.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 56:21

Yeah. Mean, when I wake, I'll be like, good morning. When I'm sleep, I'll be like, good nights, take care of me. You know? Just talking have, it's like having someone you're dating, right. And you are talking to the person every time,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 56:32

Mm-hmm.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 56:32

know? So, yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 56:33

Yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 56:34

of my conversations, some of my answered prayers have conversations suffered with God. wasn't the shouting prayers

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 56:42

Yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 56:43

It was, it was the ones that I'm like, God.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 56:47

Yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 56:48

I have testimonies that will blow your mind, I'm not kidding.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 56:51

Yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 56:52

That it, it's based off

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 56:54

Conversation.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 56:55

that I.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 56:56

Yeah. Sometimes when I'm at church and they're praying, I'll just keep quiet. sometimes you just need to hear God,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 57:02

Still just be still,

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 57:06

the noise.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 57:07

learned

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 57:07

keep quiet.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 57:08

as an adult.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 57:09

Just let them talk,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 57:11

Yeah, I'm looking at this verse. Is it the Amplified classic? It's about the Holy Spirit. I really like how it describes, it says The comforter, so he describes the comforter as the counselor, helper. Somebody said the Holy Spirit is like my professional helper. I'm like, oh, I was still

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 57:26

Is my cheerleader

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 57:28

that's so

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 57:28

my best friend. My cheerleader

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 57:30

Yeah.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 57:30

is someone like always. Yeah, you can do it. You got it.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 57:36

Oh, that's so beautiful. Okay. Yeah, I was reading the best like, you know, counselor, I think we can add more, you know,

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 57:43

Oh, there's a lot.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 57:44

intercessor

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 57:45

Yes.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 57:45

strength nurse stand.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 57:47

Sound by. That's you that, yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 57:49

Yes,

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 57:50

you.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 57:50

alright. I don't know if to, you went like, what would you think your younger self for

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 57:54

Yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 57:55

I talk about myself for listening, like just were times where, some of the decisions it was because I entered the room or I was in a setting where I didn't boast as though I was

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 58:08

Yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 58:09

I just listened

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 58:10

Yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 58:11

came back, processed that thought, So

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 58:14

I think,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 58:14

this year.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 58:15

yeah, I think some, from what he's saying, I think another thing too is, it's okay not to know everything. You know, like when you don't know something, I know it's very intimidating that this person knows. I don't know anything, so I feel like I don't know anything in the world. Right?

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 58:29

me,

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 58:29

I,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 58:29

me.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 58:29

get it. it's okay not to know, but what you can do is just note it down. The person says example. Oh, okay. That's how I learn. That's how I was able to learn. If I'm having a conversation, I don't know where the person's talking, I'll just note it or put note on my, you know, my phone and be like, yeah, I think I want to know this.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 58:46

yeah. And sometimes, like I, I'm learning that because of, egos and all that, but, sometimes there have been times where you don't want to sound, you don't want to feel like, you don't want to

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 58:56

yeah,

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 58:57

But I've also learned that when someone seems so knowledgeable, it doesn't help to ask them where are they getting the information

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 59:03

yeah, yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 59:04

Yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 59:06

there are certain conversations, like I'm having conversations with people and I'm like, oh, you haven't heard about this? and I'm a little

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 59:12

Yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 59:13

I only got to know because I

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 59:15

Right?

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 59:16

where they get the information

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 59:17

Yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 59:18

honestly, some of them, I don't even go there to read it. But I'll subscribe where I get notifications on my

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 59:24

Yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 59:25

just getting

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 59:26

Yes.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 59:26

like

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 59:27

Right.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 59:27

Just take, just getting the head topic. When I'm in the room, I'm having conversations, I'm bringing up pointers that are like, ah, really? And I'm not so knowledgeable than

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 59:36

Yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 59:37

It's just because I

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 59:38

Yes.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 59:39

So

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 59:39

Just taking notes.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 59:40

we don't have to know everything. And

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 59:42

Yeah. I agree.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 59:45

if you are the smartest person in the room, then you're in the wrong room.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 59:49

Yeah,

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 59:50

You know, if you feel like you're the dumb person, then it means that you are in the midst of like people that you can learn.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 59:57

Yeah.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 59:57

it's a business saying or something

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 59:58

You have to, yeah.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 1:00:00

Yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 1:00:00

Yeah. A balance.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 1:00:02

A balance.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 1:00:02

a balance

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 1:00:03

Okay.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 1:00:03

want to share

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 1:00:04

Yes.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 1:00:04

know more than,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 1:00:05

yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 1:00:05

but I hundred percent agree.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 1:00:07

If you're the smart, then you're in the wrong company. Like you're in the wrong people group because it means that you can't learn anything. You are not going to learn anything new. you're not going to grow, so you should be in a room with people that's like the know that you.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 1:00:23

Be in the room with both

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 1:00:25

yeah,

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 1:00:26

wanna come to your room, also live in the room and going somewhere how I be in the,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 1:00:32

yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 1:00:34

I get it. It's

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 1:00:36

Yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 1:00:36

I really like that. Okay. So the podcast is called Charlie, there has to be more. So based on all that we've said, because you've said a lot of things. Like if you were to like, think of what you said, like, Charlie, I want more Dash. What would you say? Or I, there has to be more dash, what would you say?

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 1:00:54

Like it has to be.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 1:00:56

It could be a word, it could be a phrase. I'll go with

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 1:00:59

Okay.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 1:00:59

There has to be more speaking to myself. That was one of my take homes. I'll probably write that down as my own takeaway for today.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 1:01:08

telling us to be more actions

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 1:01:10

that's good.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 1:01:11

because I'm really inspired with some of the things you are saying, especially the reading. Yeah. I have slack on it a little bit. I still have books. I bought this here that I have been reopened and, hearing and I'm like, oh, I've always wanted to read the outcomes. I've wanted to read, think and Grow

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 1:01:31

Yeah,

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 1:01:32

have I already, and hearing that there are people out there, people like you who are growing,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 1:01:38

yeah,

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 1:01:38

it's making me feel challenged

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 1:01:40

too.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 1:01:40

Like I need to like.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 1:01:42

Yeah, yeah, yeah,

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 1:01:45

literally like here and being like, okay, but yeah, I need to, I really,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 1:01:52

yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 1:01:52

there has

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 1:01:53

More action.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 1:01:54

Yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 1:01:54

What about you,

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 1:01:55

For me, Charlie, there has to be more and more.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 1:01:59

I love it.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 1:02:00

There has to be more

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 1:02:01

be more

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 1:02:02

and more, I think that's what

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 1:02:04

Yeah.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 1:02:05

more and more be hungry. Even if you feel you know everything, like continue learning, continue seeking. Be hungry to learn. Learning never stops until we die, so there has to be more and more.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 1:02:18

I mean, you don't know who is in the audience

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 1:02:20

Yeah. that one saved me.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 1:02:21

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 1:02:23

I only have two things here.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 1:02:24

yeah,

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 1:02:24

things. The think and go rich. I'm going to

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 1:02:28

yeah,

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 1:02:28

books.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 1:02:30

The personal legend.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 1:02:31

I'm very, and then going on some,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 1:02:35

yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 1:02:36

hey, next time in your, here in Arizona, we need to do a boxing date.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 1:02:40

Yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 1:02:42

Oh God, I love, yeah. Yeah. I love, yeah, it, That's the goal of the podcast. To be inspired,

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 1:02:52

Yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 1:02:53

I have more to learn. But yeah. okay. I have some fire round questions.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 1:02:58

Okay.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 1:02:59

Okay.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 1:03:00

see. you had to do a different job, what would it be like, just like think back, if you had to do a different job, just fire, what would it be?

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 1:03:09

Electrical engineering.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 1:03:12

What about you, mommy?

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 1:03:15

Anesthesiologist.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 1:03:17

Hey,

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 1:03:18

That's

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 1:03:19

there bit.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 1:03:23

cool.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 1:03:24

Business if I half a million as my pay salary.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 1:03:27

I didn't,

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 1:03:28

Yes. And you don't go to a lot of, they don't do, like, you don't have to go to school for like 15 years.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 1:03:35

No, but I left.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 1:03:35

It is not easy, but like

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 1:03:36

course.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 1:03:37

it's, the second highest paid

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 1:03:39

Hmm.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 1:03:40

terms of like, besides after, I think after the neurosurgeon or cardiologist,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 1:03:44

Okay.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 1:03:44

I think one I saw when I saw it, I think it was Well, well, you're probably right. But yeah, it's definitely up there. It's definitely up there. I take mine back. I think I, I think it should just be engineering in

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 1:03:59

Hey God. I said fire around. Questions look

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 1:04:01

engineering.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 1:04:04

engineering. Okay, next question. Travel anywhere. Where would it be right now?

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 1:04:09

Hawaii.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 1:04:11

Okay,

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 1:04:13

Because I can't travel outside the US

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 1:04:15

Okay.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 1:04:17

This is so hard.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 1:04:18

Travel anywhere. Where would it be?

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 1:04:20

outside US, Switzerland?

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 1:04:22

Oh my.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 1:04:22

oh,

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 1:04:23

went there.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 1:04:23

I

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 1:04:24

I loved it.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 1:04:24

this the one with the glacier view?

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 1:04:29

Which one?

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 1:04:29

The answer. Next question.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 1:04:30

Okay. Next question. Ghanaian food do you miss the most in Ghana? If you were to be in Ghana right now? Like what food do you say you miss the most right now?

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 1:04:45

Interesting.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 1:04:45

I miss Street watch.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 1:04:46

I know. It is true. I missed the original taste of Yeah,

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 1:04:52

me, we have, we have what we call the bob.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 1:04:54

yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 1:04:54

It,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 1:04:55

I don't know.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 1:04:55

yeah.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 1:04:56

I know.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 1:04:56

Yeah. I miss that.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 1:04:58

And PE prepared.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 1:04:59

on.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 1:05:00

Yeah,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 1:05:00

I've

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 1:05:00

I used to eat that with a lot.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 1:05:03

Yeah,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 1:05:04

I have to try when I get to Ghana.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 1:05:05

It's really nice,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 1:05:06

All right.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 1:05:07

So

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 1:05:07

last question. This is a bit of a deep question. It's still around like the whole like growing and learning. What is something that you have done that you didn't think that you could do? For me, it's the gym.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 1:05:20

something you

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 1:05:20

that you could do.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 1:05:21

think you could do. It could be something simple, whatever.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 1:05:23

Yeah, for me, I think when I did my Europe tour last year, especially Germany. I went to,

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 1:05:30

Yeah.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 1:05:31

I went to Switzerland, I went to Germany. I went to more than six countries. So when we were in Ghana, I always wanted to be in Germany, right?

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 1:05:38

it's true. It's not coming back to

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 1:05:40

So when I made that happen, I was like, yeah, okay.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 1:05:43

Yeah.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 1:05:44

So I did my rope tour.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 1:05:45

Okay.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 1:05:45

Yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 1:05:46

what was the question?

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 1:05:46

What is something that you have done that you didn't think you would do or you could do?

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 1:05:53

nothing comes to mind.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 1:05:55

comes to mind.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 1:05:57

maybe

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 1:05:57

u

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 1:05:57

It could be something simple, Do you think that you would be a hiker,

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 1:06:00

Yeah.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 1:06:01

probably my diet.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 1:06:02

you're ed

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 1:06:04

Yeah. I used to like my cals and now I can't believe I see food and the first thing I'm thinking of is where the put in

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 1:06:11

Me too. it doesn't make sense if I don't see green on my

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 1:06:14

Mm.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 1:06:15

just know a complete meal.

maame-abena-afrifa_3_12-20-2025_131712 1:06:16

Mm-hmm.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 1:06:17

struggling. to see green.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 1:06:18

Green. I haven't yet.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 1:06:20

you guys so much for your time, even the extra time, all the technical challenges. Thank you. I'm inspired. thank you.

dui_3_12-20-2025_111804 1:06:27

Yeah.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 1:06:27

So audiences, please say thank you to my guests. I don't know how you would do it, but you do it. There has to be more, there has to be more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more, more. More. right. Thank you so much for your time, and that's it. Bye

Speaker 4 1:06:47

Well, well, well, that is the end of the first episode. I hope you learned and had fun as much as I did. The next episode comes out next month, so there'll be one episode per month because Yes. But tell me when you hear Charlie, there has to be more. What does that mean to you right now? Personally? I want to hear from you as well. Well, a couple of my friends also shared their thoughts, so let's listen to them right now. Um, but until then, see you next month. It's Queen Esta, and we are out. Love you. Bye.

queen_5_12-20-2025_121712 1:07:22

bye

Speaker 1:07:29

Oh, Charlie, there has to be more. I'm curious, Bey, and I feel like it says there's deeper, there's something deeper, there's something more to this, like it's deeper. Let's experience this deepest thing.

Speaker 2 1:07:43

Charlie, they have to be more. My name is Malika. When it comes to Charlie, they have to be more you don't have to be stuck on something you know about Jesus or just about life. You have to be, willing to learn more,