March Badness of Corruption - Round 2

In this episode, we delve into the remaining politicians in the group of 16 corrupt politician and narrow the field to the Elite 8 of corruption (Top 4 Democrats & Top 4 Republicans).  This episode will focus on political corruption, recent actions of these politicians in both parties, and explore the implications of their decisions.  This episode features a heated debate on political controversies, scandals, and the integrity of various politicians, including Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump, and others. The hosts analyze past scandals, allegations, and the implications of political actions, providing a critical perspective on American politics. At the end, we will be left with the Elite 8 of corrupt politicians.

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:07

Welcome back to round two of the March Badness Tournament. We are finishing the lower half of the bracket of 16 corrupt politicians.

SPEAKER_00 0:20

Who we got first?

SPEAKER_01 0:22

Our first matchup is Barack Obama versus Mark Kelly.

SPEAKER_00 0:29

Okay. So what's what's Mark Kelly known for in corruption?

SPEAKER_01 0:33

Mark Kelly is recently known for going on with Jason Crow and a few of their other buddies and telling soldiers that they don't have to follow unlawful orders. However, orders given in the military are presumed to be lawful. All they were doing was trying to stir the shit, to get things, to put doubt in soldiers' minds, to literally, it's it's almost calling for an overthrow of the current administration. As a result of that, he got some punishment, which we can talk about later. But that's that's the one that I know primarily is the the recent, you know. I'm sure you remember that video where they came out and said you don't have to follow unlawful orders of the, you know.

SPEAKER_00 1:22

Yeah, of course. Yeah, and then Trump, Trump said he was uh it was seditious behavior. But there was like an ongoing ongoing investigation about it, right? I mean, they're still doing uh investigating him.

SPEAKER_01 1:32

Yes, but they uh they actually the Department of Defense did knock his retirement down. I think he was demoted a grade or something like that, but his retirement was reduced. Not not that he really relies on his retirement because he is if you're a traitor, if you're gonna say traitorous things, then to me there's almost no higher level of corruption if you're going to literally make statements that are seditious and traitorous, if traitorous is a word. So, in my opinion, Mark Kelly is one of the worst. Um, and he has a couple of buddies that I want to talk about that are also in this bracket, at least one of them is. So uh that's that's what I know, and that's my biggest issue, is that he's been a traitor to the country. Barack Obama was covertly being seditious. Mark Kelly, Jason Crow, and the other buddies that came out and made this video about not following lawful orders. That's just in your face. Uh being a traitor right there in front of our face and not really caring what any of us think about it.

SPEAKER_00 2:45

I'm sure that like Mark Kelly didn't view it as being a traitor when he did it. It was probably more of a uh um, you know, just saying what what he thought was going to get him give him some popularity on the news or whatever. But yeah, I mean in the end, it is what he's trait, it's traitor. It's yeah, exactly. What's the damn word for that? Treacherous? Treacherous tritorous?

SPEAKER_01 3:11

So let let's let's start on just a basic list of the things that Barack Obama did while he was president and continues to do. One of those things was sending pallets of money to Iran. I guess he was paying them off so they wouldn't shoot nuclear missiles at us, or they they supposedly were paying them off so they would not build nuclear weapons. So so we're gonna give you enough money to build them.

SPEAKER_00 3:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:42

As long as you promise not to.

SPEAKER_00 3:44

Here's six billion dollars in some plutonium, and we're gonna need you to not do anything with this.

SPEAKER_01 3:50

They still have enough uranium to build eleven nuclear missiles.

SPEAKER_00 3:55

So it's like a side note here, but that's one of the things that I keep like don't get me wrong, I think Iran needs to be wiped off the face of the earth as far as their regime or whatever, not necessarily obviously not all the people, but the regime. But that's one of the things I can't figure out. I mean, I whenever they were like went in and bombed them and not wiped out the nuclear facility, and then last week, when they or two weeks ago now, I guess, when they started this big war, all of the uh like propaganda or rhetoric was like, that's it. We've already demolished them. They have no capabilities or destroyed their navy, they have no missiles left, they have nothing, nothing, nothing. And then this week they're like, Iran launches uh ballistic missile that went farther than we ever thought they were capable of and landed just outside of London in the ocean or something. I'm like, what? I thought they didn't have any missiles left. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:49

It's like, guys, we are annihilating them. We are absolutely crushing them. Well, hey man, could we get some boats through the Strady Hormouths? Well, they still have kind of some control over that.

unknown 5:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:01

But I thought you killed them all. Uh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:04

Back back to Barack Obama and his involvement and and why all this is such a sticky thing now, is because he sent over pallets of cash to the tune of billions. I don't know the exact amount, but he sent over pallets of cash, and this was sort of a bribe to say, hey, we're gonna send you this money, but we're asking you not to use it for nuclear weapons, just you know, energy grade stuff, and you know, just be nice to us. And obviously that didn't work because now they have almost 11 enough nuclear material to make 11 nuclear bombs. So that is one thing right out of the gate that kind of makes Barack Obama worse than Mark Kelly, because Mark Mark Kelly's saying words, and I think words are powerful, and I think most of us can look at that and go, ass, you know, stop saying that, you're an idiot, but whatever.

SPEAKER_00 6:01

That's obviously by itself is a is is good enough, right? But but Obama had a lot of stuff. He had like the drone strike program where he was killing people that were perceived targets. I think it was like Yemen, Pakistan, and um I want to say like Saudi Arabia, somewhere else in the Middle East. But in those airstrikes, it killed American citizens. There was like a two 16-year-old girls, one one in one drone strike, one in another drone strike, but they got killed, and the Snowden leaks came out under Obama, and it was like Obama got into office and like ramped up the Patriot Act and was spying on American citizens. He ran on the whole too big to fail. Bush, you know, is incompetent. Then he got in and like bailed out even more, but didn't prosecute anybody from 2008 that he said he was going to go after. I mean, I guess that's kind of the same with Trump and uh and the Epstein files, but you know, Mark Kelly, douchebag, yes, he's in his you know, seditious acts or whatever, but Obama's definitely got the takes the cake on this one, I think.

SPEAKER_01 7:01

It seemed like he was the savior of the world. You remember people being on TV and just they were showing camera feeds all over the world of people celebrating because Barack. The black messiah. The black messiah. And it you know, it turns out that he there was a uh a picture that I saw one time, and of course, you know, it's allegedly because I don't know if the picture was real or or true or whatever, but it was a picture of him getting off of a plane, and then there was a picture zoomed in of a book that he was holding, and it was some It was the Quran, I think, wasn't it? No, it was something destruction of America or something like that. Yep. So, yeah, as far as the matchup between Barack Obama and Mark Kelly, Barack Obama has a huge lead, and I don't know if Mark Kelly can catch up. I think Mark Kelly is a piece of trash, and I won't be shy about it. And I think his little uh buddy, Jason Crow, is also a piece of trash. Uh I think they're traitorous, seditionists, they should be uh kicked out of their political offices, uh, if not jailed. That that's just how I feel about it. Not gonna change my mind, and I don't care what anybody else thinks about it.

SPEAKER_00 8:15

Most of these were allegations from the Republican side or his opponents, but there has been some troops from even within the Democratic Party and veterans, military members, active military members. It says that if tried, or he is actually currently being investigated still and will be facing trial if prosecuted uh under the Uniform Code of Military Justice, even though he is retired, he still holds the title of captain, so falls under the UCMJ.

SPEAKER_01 8:43

Yeah, and that's that's where they reduced his retirement pay. I don't know if it's official yet that they did it, but they announced that they were gonna do it. Um, but at the same time, uh, there's a lot of announcements that come out of this administration that they're not quite like or not quite seen through completely. So I I I say that we pick Barack Obama uh moving on to the Elite Eight. And I think that we could probably go longer. I mean, uh let's not forget the situation of his very well physically fit young uh chef out on the uh what uh Martha's Vineyard, where his multimillion dollar mansion is, died while paddleboarding mysteriously.

SPEAKER_00 9:29

So I didn't even know about that.

SPEAKER_01 9:31

Yeah, that that's that's sort of Clinton-esque when it well, you know, I don't know what the he just mysteriously dialed, uh mysteriously died while paddleboarding, and he's like this big muscled up, you know. Sounds like uh big Mike walked in at the wrong time. Yeah, sounds like he saw some stuff uh that he should not have seen. I will say allegedly, but there are some questionable things surrounding it. So um you got some Clinton-esque behavior as well. And uh, you know, of course, I I personally think Clinton, the Clintons were one of the people or part of the group that propped Barack Obama up. So um, you know, I I think that he's gonna toe the line. But either way, so we're going with Barack Obama as the winner. He is moving on to the elite eight. So let's go to our next matchup: Hillary Clinton versus Jason Crow, one of Mark Kelly's buddies. So let's start with Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton. Or should we should we start with Jason Crow and then go into Hillary Clinton? Because there's a whole bunch. Let's start with Jason Crow. Let's let's go ahead and get him out of the way because I don't know what's on the books. I don't know what's on the internet, but what I believe is that he is probably one of the most corrupt politicians in Washington today. Got no proof, even stuff if we find it on the internet. Can't swear that it's true, but I do believe he is extremely corrupt and a douchebag.

SPEAKER_00 11:15

I didn't know this. Did you know that he was a uh former Army Ranger?

SPEAKER_01 11:19

Yeah, yeah, I do. And it's like another Dan Crenshaw. It's it's ridiculous. Like last time we talked about how whenever you and I did our military service, that we didn't really know any liberals. And honestly, if there were any, they probably were quiet because everyone I was around and I was in for 16 years, I never met anybody who was a vocally a liberal. I just can't stand Jason Crow. He's terrible. That's all I'm gonna say. I think outside of the seditionist stuff, do we know, is there anything else that's not? Yeah, not a lot.

SPEAKER_00 11:56

He's kind of like Mark Kelly. So allegations surrounding Mark Kelly include defensive defense industry donations. He's received heavy criticism over campaign contributions tied to military and defense contractors. Dude, he sounds exactly like uh Dan. Crenshaw that's the guy national security positions. He's been criticized of depending on partisan viewpoints, but that's pretty much it. He doesn't have any major scandals, investigations, or ethics violations. And the typical criticism that he receives is policy disagreements, but not corruption specifically. Um and he's a decorator on the range.

SPEAKER_01 12:32

Yeah, he's just a moron, really. So we've can we've confirmed that Jason Crow's a turd, and just like Mark Kelly, we don't have a lot that we can foundationally lean on as far as fact. So we just have opinion there. Most people that watch or listen to this are gonna know about Jason Crow and Mark Kelly and their other buddies making that YouTube video and telling soldiers that they don't have to follow unlawful orders. Um outside of that, which is bad enough, I mean that really is bad enough, but I just don't know how he's gonna stand up against old Hillary.

SPEAKER_00 13:09

Not at all.

SPEAKER_01 13:09

He's not. So while the result, even though we haven't had any votes yet for who would win this match, it seems like Hillary Clinton has already won this one. But let's talk about some of the things that she has been involved with. Um we have bleaching of phones, getting rid of uh phones, uh, all the email scandal, getting rid of all the the emails. Um Benghazi Benghazi. Uh Benghazi's a huge one. And her quote for that whenever she was uh being questioned in Congress and all that was what does it matter anyway?

SPEAKER_00 13:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:51

Why are we talking about this? Much like some people talked about the Epstein files, which we'll probably get to on the other side of the bracket. So um Benghazi emails and uh getting bleaching phones and and all that. I'm sure there is a lot more. Oh, dude.

SPEAKER_00 14:10

There's all kinds of stuff with her. I mean, pay-to-pay or pay-to-play claims. Um, she's gotten several investigations, federal investigations, um, decisions she made about Secretary of State. There's um simple things like the stealing of all of the dishes at the White House when they uh when Trump won and they had to leave. Yeah. Um Travelgate. Travelgate, yeah. There's uh I mean all of her all of her friends that were really close to her that have killed themselves tragically.

SPEAKER_01 14:42

It's just insane how many people she's they've they've had an incredible amount of death surrounding them. We don't know if they're involved.

SPEAKER_00 14:54

But I don't I don't have any friends that have killed themselves. Yeah. And she's got like 50.

SPEAKER_01 14:59

Yeah. So probably not good to be uh in the friend group with uh Bill and Hillary Clinton's. We got Benghazi, we got Whitewater, we got Travel Gate, we got um uh bleaching of phones and getting rid of uh evidence. Recently she testified for the Epstein stuff, and basically her standard answer was ask my husband. Even though she did get a little snippy um during the questioning, Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton, in my opinion, are two people that need to be prosecuted for a lot of things in the Epstein files or on the island or whatever. But this is a woman who beyond all the things that Bill Clinton has done, being unfaithful in their marriage, being involved with Epstein, um Monica Lewinsky, all these things, and she said, I'm gonna stay. So is that love for Bill or is that love for power?

SPEAKER_00 16:00

Whenever it came out that he was with uh Monica Lewinsky, I think it was more of an embarrassment for her. Like it I don't know. If if the Epstein files and what you know has kind of come out lately as true, she obviously probably knew that he was doing things on the island or whatever. So I mean when you're doing all those kinds of terrible and crazy things, it it's like you know, you're sleeping with your uh your secretary or whatever Monica Lewinsky was, was it's probably not that big of a deal to her. So I think that's why she forgave him.

SPEAKER_01 16:34

Probably not. And and she but I still think it goes back to here's this controversy, we've got this guy elected, you're the wife, we need you to tow the line, be faithful to him, you know, support him or whatever.

SPEAKER_00 16:48

Now and and we'll give you the next presidency if you do that. Right, that's why she was all pissed when when Barack won.

SPEAKER_01 16:55

Yeah, because uh she whenever whenever Bill Clinton was done being president, she yeah, couples cheat and have affairs, and some couples make it through that. Mine wouldn't.

SPEAKER_00 17:10

No. I mean, mine would make it through that, but I would be buried in the backyard, and that would be the like till death do his part, you know.

SPEAKER_01 17:19

Yeah, yeah, exactly. So I I I just think that uh I I I think there's some truth there to what you're saying as far as Hill, Hillary got promised some things. Um because as soon as they could, they made her Secretary of State, and and I don't know. I I just think that it she's like the wife and house of cards.

SPEAKER_00 17:41

You ever watch that show?

SPEAKER_01 17:42

Yes. I mean, that's I swear that that's about the Clintons. Yeah, I swear it it it sure does seem like it to me, too. Yeah. So I mean, it just goes right in line. So uh without going on any further, I think that it's obvious that Hillary Clinton is the winner of this matchup. So we will uh move over here to the Republican side of the bracket. On the Republican side, we have two more matchups, which will close out our 16 member bracket, and it'll take us down to the Elite Eight. So this matchup is Richard Nixon versus Greg Abbott. Now, Richard Nixon's probably probably gonna be hard to beat, oh Dick, but we're gonna give.

SPEAKER_00 18:39

Not as hard as you think.

SPEAKER_01 18:40

No. Let's start with Greg Abbott. Okay. There's a whole thing going on with the mosque in Texas that maybe Greg Abbott's um uh involved with.

SPEAKER_00 18:56

Yeah. Um although they did just pass the law, right? Didn't he ha wasn't he backing the law to um no mosques or no not mosques, what are those called where the where all the Muslim people get together and they form a community, and that community only um obeys Sharia law? They they outlawed those in Texas. Okay, the winter storm deal. The Muslim Muslim communities.

SPEAKER_01 19:23

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 19:24

The um the migr, I mean, to me this isn't a controversy, but it's one of the things he's like known for is busing the migrants to uh Martha's Vineyard when she was last year.

SPEAKER_01 19:36

No, that I thought that was uh that was uh DeSantis.

SPEAKER_00 19:40

Was it DeSantis? Yeah, I think we had buses running like crazy in Laredo.

SPEAKER_01 19:45

Yeah, I think they were going to Chicago.

SPEAKER_00 19:48

The ones the Abbott sent were to Chicago? Okay. Yeah, which is classic. Yeah, classic. Well played. Um and then he's always got campaign donations from uh major oil companies, energy sectors, you know, like which you know, Texas has like the largest oil and gas on uh the in the continental United States, the Permian Basin. So I can see why that's a but still he gets a lot of a lot of crap for that. So no no active criminal investigations or corruption charges. Uh issues are largely policy decisions and not personal misconduct. His supporters view his actions as strong state leadership. I actually like the guy. I know a lot of people in Texas don't like him, but he's uh definitely no stranger to corruption uh accusations at the very least.

SPEAKER_01 20:36

Texas has one of the highest number of mosques out of any state. Now, how does that happen in Texas? I'm not saying they have the highest number, but they have one of the highest. I think there's like 190 mosques. I'll have to fact check that. But I think there's a like 190 mosques in Texas compared to Oklahoma with five or four, something pretty low. And these are neighboring states. So you got to ask yourself, what is going on in Texas?

SPEAKER_00 21:07

As a Texan, I hear a lot about um land deals with both uh the Muslim Brotherhood and the Chinese. It's like a major concern among like people who live in Texas. That's like a topic that gets brought up from time to time. There is uh no credible evidence that either one of these claims actually is a problem. There is no verified reporting investigation or evidence linking Abbott to financial dealings, land transactions, or partnerships with either group. And uh it's more of a national issue. It's not specific to Abbott personally, um, but it is an ongoing problem in multiple states across the country. Texas is one of the states that's included. Um, but Abbott has been vocal about supporting restrictions on foreign land ownership in the state of Texas itself.

SPEAKER_01 21:52

Well, like I said, I've heard rumor, not fact. So um

SPEAKER_00 22:00

There are things that that uh like support what you've heard. Like um there's been investigations done by major news outlets into it and financial disclosures and documented transactions, like law enforcement and ethics investigations, all of that stuff's happened just based on uh the the rumors.

SPEAKER_01 22:18

So the rumors have led uh credibility to or the rumors have led to credible investigations, but no no actual findings of corruption yet.

SPEAKER_00 22:31

Not yet.

SPEAKER_01 22:32

Well sounds like sort of a repeat between Hillary Clinton and Jason Crow.

SPEAKER_00 22:38

I mean, uh yeah, corruption is there, but yeah, probably I mean, I think all politicians are corrupt, so he's definitely he's definitely done something, I'm sure, but I don't think it's gonna hold the candle to Nixon.

SPEAKER_01 22:51

Yeah. So with that being said, let's move on to Richard. I am not a crook, Nixon. Yeah. He should have just said I am a crook.

SPEAKER_00 23:03

Um that would have been a lot quicker and easier. Yeah, we could have moved on a lot faster, dude. Yeah, uh, so there's Watergate, obviously, the weaponization of um uh federal agencies. The um I said they all do that. Yeah, that's true. So the Watergate scandal, um, there was two things we listed, but we said abuse of power. But basically, what Nixon was doing was taking federal agencies like the IRS and the FBI and using their services or their investigate investigation tactics to investigate his political enemies and then either bankrupt them or or find dirt on them or whatever. And in one of those instances, he had the people that were working for him break into the Democratic National Convention headquarters and uh which was at the Watergate building. And then in that process, they were caught, uh, I think on camera or in person. I don't remember exactly how they caught him. I thought Forrest Gump caught him. Yeah, that's right. He called in uh from across the way because he saw the flashlights at yeah, that's what it was. And uh anyways, multiple recordings came out, like including recordings that were bugged, bugs in the white in the Oval Office that the that had been put in, that he was caught on tape, you know, um targeting journalists and doing all kinds of stuff. So it led to the resignation, his resignation instead of um inevitable impeachment.

SPEAKER_01 24:34

Well, those are all very um unconstitutional. So if you're going to be either seditious or anti-constitution or uh I don't know if anti-constitution is the way to say it, but if you're if you're basically doing activities that are extremely unconstitutional, that's not very American. That is absolutely corrupt, and uh it's one of the biggest scandals that has ever occurred in our history of our country as far as political scandals go. So if there's nothing, I don't really think we have to do much more to make the case for Richard Nixon to move on from this matchup. I think that he wins, hands down. Yeah, hands down for sure. So with that said, the winner for this match is Dick Nixon. The winner is Richard Nixon. So uh let's move on to the final matchup to break us down and get into the Elite Eight. And this matchup is Mr. President, Donald Trump, and Tom Tillis.

SPEAKER_00 25:43

I think before we go into the matchup, if you look back at Watergate, they were just wiretapping the phones. That's what they were doing in the Watergate building was wiretapping the phones and stealing files. And now the Patriot Act is like, well, we don't need to wiretap the phones. We just literally monitor your computer, your Facebook, your your iPhone camera, your what whatever. It's all going into an NSA server anyway.

SPEAKER_01 26:09

So I mean the Patriot Act totally crumbled up the Constitution and threw it in the trash. It totally disregarded the Fourth Amendment, it disregarded the Fifth Amendment, the First Amendment, and probably others that I'm not thinking of.

SPEAKER_00 26:25

I think that they should start. You know, I haven't actually read the Save Act yet, you know, this new one they're trying to pass about voter registration and voter ID. And hopefully it's really what it says it is. But in my opinion, everything from past presidents has been the name on the bill is usually the opposite of what it does. Like there's nothing more unpatriotic than the Patriot Act.

SPEAKER_01 26:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:52

You know?

SPEAKER_01 26:52

Yeah, anyways, absolutely. And I think that there are a lot of things in the Save Act that are of concern. I I haven't read it either, and probably should, but the worst thing about the Save Act is that we have juveniles in our government that are holding up pay. It's not just Democrats. There are there are some Republicans too that are holding up pay to TSA agents, to Coast Guard, to to all of that. So who actually is the Save Act saving? We absolutely need fair elections. We absolutely need voter ID. I'm tired of the discussion. You have to go show your ID to get chewing tobacco, cigarettes, alcohol to get into venues. So why is voting a big deal? Probably just ought to get Tom Tillis out of the way.

SPEAKER_00 27:48

Tom Tillis is uh a traditional politician. That's whatever that means.

SPEAKER_01 27:57

What does that mean?

SPEAKER_00 27:58

His allegations for controversy include uh criticism over ties to corporate donors, immigration, healthcare, and judicial votes, and his attacks on both parties causing him to be attacked by both parties. Is he against the Save Act? Uh Tillis' position has shifted multiple times depending on the version of the bill that's being released originally. He was for the Save Act, and more recently, with the 2026 version of the Save America Act, he has opposed it and pushed back on it. He did co-sponsor the original Save Act, though.

SPEAKER_01 28:34

With Dan Crenshaw.

SPEAKER_00 28:37

Is that who wrote the original one?

SPEAKER_01 28:38

He's a co-sponsor.

SPEAKER_02 28:40

Hmm.

SPEAKER_01 28:42

Interesting. Is there any corruption tied to Tom Tillis that is factual, or is it just like Mark Kelly and Jason Crow and uh others?

SPEAKER_00 28:54

There's no major criminal investigations, no large-scale corruption scandals. Um, his defense narrative is standard legislative career. His criticisms are mostly and uh mostly policy-based, and there has been no corruption-based scandals against him. The original Save Act that he co-sponsored uh requires documented proof of the U.S. citizenship and register to vote. Examples included passports and birth certificate and applies mainly to federal elections only. So the new one includes citizenship and proof of requirement, but it adds stricter mail-in voting rules. Basically, it limits or adds uh requirements for absentee and mail and vote, mail-in votes, tighter deadlines on ID verification. So basically, like soldiers that are overseas would still be able to mail in their votes, but regular everyday people have to go to the polls. Um, more federal oversight. It expands the federal role and how the states run their elections, and it standardizes the role and rules across the states. Um and then the more stringent voter ID provisions go beyond registration. So I guess you have to have an ID to register, and then you have to have an ID to actually, you know, at the voting booths. The only thing that's different is that it includes tighter restrictions on mail-in voting, increased federal control. So the states, you know, all the gerrymandering and stuff they do would not matter because the federal government would say, like, we're coming in to handle the voting. Um, and and he doesn't he doesn't like that. Probably because he's elected on state gerrymandering button. Um probably. But yeah, they I mean that's uh outside of that, it there's not really much corruption. There's a little bit more corruption on the Trump side.

SPEAKER_01 30:37

Just a smidge. This is probably going to be a wipeout. Um let's go ahead and just move on from Tom Tillis and let's go to big dog, Donald Trump, and talk about whatever corruption he's been involved with. Now, some of this with with uh the corruption that all the you know that you listen to the Democrats and they if Trump likes it, we hate it, so everything he's doing is corrupt. So let's work through all the white noise there and let's just get down to some of the brass tacks of what could legitimately be corrupt. And I'm going to start with the Epstein files. Whenever he ran this time, he ran one of the things that he ran on was releasing the Epstein files. And then after he got elected, everybody's screaming for the Epstein files and Cash Patel, uh Bondi and Trump.

SPEAKER_00 31:40

Are we still talking about that?

SPEAKER_01 31:42

Yes. Uh yeah, that that's exactly what he said, though. He's like, why are we talking about Epstein? And and Cash Patel came out and said, uh, we've reviewed everything. There's nothing there. Bondi's like, yeah, we got some files and we're going to be releasing them soon. And nothing. And so, and then they finally release. Like, we are, we are, we all know that they released the Epstein files, heavily redacted, millions of documents that are heavily redacted. So that looks corrupt just on the surface of it. I don't know if Donald Trump was on the island, if he wasn't on the island. There's a whole lot of pictures of him with Epstein. Supposedly, they had a falling out because Trump said he was a creep and I didn't want to be around him. I don't have any evidence to suggest any different. But, and I had total faith in you, Donnie, until you said there's nothing here. Why is everybody and then after they said that, they release him. So that that stands out as tip top for me.

SPEAKER_00 32:47

Yeah, I mean, that's to me, that is the the one, which is ironic because when I pulled up these, when I pulled up Tom Tillis and and uh Donald Trump in Chat GPT just to see what known controversies they had or scandals or whatever, it didn't even mention the Epstein files. Which is to me like the top the top one, right? But um but it did say where Tom Tillis is known as the traditional politician, Donald Trump is known as the controversy machine.

SPEAKER_01 33:16

Yeah, because of TDS, right? The left is infected with Trump derangement syndrome. And what what they don't I was gonna say what they don't fully understand, but I do think they understand it. They think just by coming out and saying anything that is against whatever Trump's doing, do you have any solutions? You know, they they just don't offer anything other than Trump bad, us good, that's it. But no, no offer of solutions for anything.

SPEAKER_00 33:44

So if you don't have a solution, I don't know that they have one on any topic. There's like, okay, well, what's your I keep seeing all these videos on all these social media people are like, oh yeah, Kamala was definitely the better option. She had such a great plan. I'm like, when when did you see a plan? What plan? What are you talking about? Never I didn't see a plan.

SPEAKER_01 34:03

No, she just has word salad. That is it. And so some of the other controversies that Donald Trump's been involved with, he's he's a convicted felon, 34 counts of fraud or whatever, which was pardon the expression, totally trumped up, you know. Yeah, saying, you know, like this is this is kind of like uh Al Capone, right? Like we know Al Capone. Back then, they knew Al Capone was a gangster, killing people, doing all these things, couldn't prove any of it.

unknown 34:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 34:37

So let's get him on tax evasion. That's what this is. That's that's what that was on Donald Trump. Totally political, not legitimate. And so now it creates an environment to where we all as citizens sit back and go, everything is bullshit because nobody is being honest, nobody is prosecuting or investigating things that are truly crimes. And, you know, that's that's not sustainable. So I can't really put that in the in the corruption bucket for Donald Trump. In fact, a lot of it is is political, but we can't look past Epstein and him running on that and then giving us a hard time when it comes to releasing it and telling us there's nothing and then releasing it, and it turns out there's a whole lot of something, and so it's kind of like fruit of the poisonous tree, right? Like they essentially they they lied. They lied about that, and then now they're saying, trust us. And I'm like, you lie to me once, it's really hard to trust you again.

SPEAKER_00 35:43

They're always touting 34 counts or 34 convictions, but there is no argument, like none of the other people we've had in the in the tournament have any indictments and and actual civil judgments against them. So I mean, Trump's got like documented cases of of uh uh you know retaining retaining sensitive document he wasn't supposed to. He was um the whole you know, they've incitement or whatever on January 6th. I know that that's not I don't feel like he incited anything, but that's something that they blew up to it. There's as far as hit as far as what he's done with against Tom Tillis, uh there's no Tom Tillis is is out. Uh there's no way he moves on.

SPEAKER_01 36:24

No. In fact, uh we need to talk to whoever put this bracket together. Thanks, Chat GPT. It looks like we've got a fixed bracket here, ladies and gentlemen. Uh, but your votes still matter. So whenever we send out polls, um we would love your vote because we want to know what you know all 25 of you are thinking. So uh so with that said, unless you have any other claims, Donald Trump is the winner of this match. Indeed. So moving on to the Elite Eight, on the Democrat side of the bracket, we have Tim Waltz versus Gavin Newsom, Barack Obama versus Hillary Clinton. On the Republican side, we have George Bush versus Dick Cheney, and Richard Nixon versus Donald Trump. We hope you're watching for our polls that we're going to be sending out. Please give a vote so we can see what the people have to say.