Hantavirus, Home Depot Search Warrants, and Spirit Lost

This episode covers bizarre viral outbreaks on cruise ships, the rise in thefts at retail stores, and the chaos of modern air travel. Join us as we explore the latest in viral outbreaks like the hantavirus, the surge in shoplifting, and crazy airline stories, all with a humorous twist. In this episode, hosts delve into a wide range of topics including the decline of Spirit Airlines, the impact of crime and theft on retail stores, the complexities of government regulations, and the cultural debates surrounding land ownership and historical injustices. The conversation also touches on economic issues like gas prices, airline mergers, and the broader implications of government intervention in business.

Keywords

viral outbreaks, cruise ship hantavirus, shoplifting, airline stories, chaos, humor, current events Spirit Airlines, airline industry, theft, crime, government regulation, land ownership, historical injustices, gas prices, airline mergers, economic policy


Key Topics

Hantavirus outbreak on cruise ships
Rise in retail thefts and shoplifting trends
Crazy airline incidents and near-misses Spirit Airlines collapse and market implications
Crime and theft in retail stores and security measures
Land ownership debates and historical land claims
Gas prices, market manipulation, and energy policy
Airline industry dynamics, mergers, and government regulation



Chapters

00:00 Introduction to the Rat Poop Virus
00:16 The Hantavirus and Its Impact
01:37 Cruise Ship Outbreaks and Quarantine
05:55 Humor and Commentary on Current Events
06:12 Understanding the Hantavirus Transmission
10:05 Cruise Ship Outbreaks and Public Health
14:39 The Rise of Theft in Retail
21:55 Cultural Commentary on Land Ownership
23:23 Spirit Airlines Collapse
30:55 Gas Prices and Market Manipulation
31:14 

 resources

CDC on Hantavirus - https://www.cdc.gov/hantavirus/index.html
Oceanwide Expeditions - https://oceanwide-expeditions.com
Airline Safety Records - https://aviation-safety.net
Shoplifting Prevention Tips - https://www.nationwide.com/lc/resources/insurance-articles/shoplifting-prevention
Current Events Podcast - https://example.com/current-events-podcast
Spirit Airlines Official Website - https://www.spirit.com/
JetBlue Acquisition of Spirit Airlines (News Article) - https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/jetblue-aims-buy-spirit-airlines-2022-07-28/
Child Called It by Dave Pelzer - https://www.amazon.com/Child-Called-Damien-Pelzer/dp/0785287354
Law-Abiding Citizen Movie - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1197624/


 

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

People are stealing power tools like it's a new Olympic sport. The commercial airlines business has lost its spirit and rap poop is back in the headlines. Okay, so let's talk about this hantavirus. Are you even aware of what the hantavirus is?

SPEAKER_03 0:21

I've heard of it, but no, I didn't know that it was like still a thing. I thought it was kind of like uh, you know, the plague or something, not not around very much anymore. But uh I do remember back in Oklahoma back in the day, there was a uh a bunch of like Indian tribes who were just like dying left and right and they couldn't figure out what was going on. They wound up doing like a big investigation. You ever seen uh Bad Boys 2 where he goes in and he's like, You guys have a rat problem, and they're they're going in to plant the cameras, but they're pretending like they're they're there to help with the rats, and he's like, I think I know what your problem is. Y'all, y'all some nasty motherfuckers they had like not washed their sheets and they had like mice peeing everywhere, and it was just uh yeah. They were living in it, breathing it in, it was in air conditioning vents, things like that. So it was it's what killed them. But I didn't know that like modern-day cruise ships had this issue. I know that there was like you know, there's rats on ships that happens, but there's gotta be a lot of rats on a ship to start killing people. Not trying to throw shade on people who are dying on a ship, but like wipe your counters down. I don't under I don't understand. How do we get to that point?

SPEAKER_02 1:25

It it if we're really thinking through the problem here, immigration is a problem all over the the world. And so no telling who is getting on those ships and what they're bringing with them. It's one of two things. People either came on the ship that had hantavirus or the cruise ship is trash. And based on all the cruise ship stories that I've heard lately, I'm gonna have to lean more towards they're nasty.

SPEAKER_03 1:52

Is it a carnival cruise?

SPEAKER_02 1:53

The ship is called the MB Hondias or Hundias.

SPEAKER_03 1:57

Oceanwide Expeditions. It's a Dutch-based company specializing in polar expedition cruises and oceanwide expeditions, founded in 1993, based out of the Netherlands. The hantavirus started when someone did not clean the mouse pee off of their bagel.

SPEAKER_02 2:14

You would think that this would be breaking out all over New York City. They have rats the size of Volkswagens there. So if that's not happening with all the immigrants and with all the rats and all the things that are in New York City, then why is it happening on a cruise ship? Doesn't mean it can't happen on a cruise ship, but why?

SPEAKER_03 2:34

So, like this is like rats got into the kitchen of the cruise ship and infected like the food supply? Or this is like people came onto the cruise ship already? They're quarantined.

SPEAKER_02 2:44

They're they're quarantined right now. So how long have they been on the cruise ship?

SPEAKER_03 2:47

Have they been out there like a day or two or like a month or it's I think by now it's been like a week or so. Since the quarantine started. But how long was the cruise, do you know?

SPEAKER_02 2:58

Oh, well, it was going from, interestingly enough, Argentina to Antarctica.

SPEAKER_03 3:03

So saw too much, did they?

SPEAKER_02 3:04

Yeah, that's that's what I was saying. Was there uh was there a little bit going on in Antarctica? By the way, you can reference our episode on Antarctica anytime you want. Spotify, Apple, um YouTube. Apparently, there's been videos of people. I saw a video of a guy crying saying, Get me off this ship, you know, whatever, this isn't fair. I think what would probably more appropriate is if we go to our field reporter standing by to see what's going on.

SPEAKER_01 3:31

Hey Tim and Tabor, we are awaiting a report from the Dutch flagged ship. Currently, nobody can leave the ship, and the situation is growing in frustration for the many passengers. When interviewed, the passenger said, Get me off this damn boat. Back to you guys.

SPEAKER_02 3:46

I think that would probably be my reaction also. Get me off of this damn boat.

SPEAKER_03 3:55

He's he's a passenger on the boat or part of the crew, or what?

SPEAKER_02 3:58

Yeah, he's a passenger, and they they've been uh they're off the the coast of uh or they're near the port of Cape Verde, wherever that is. And uh they're they're basically being held in quarantine there. Apparently, three people have died. Two of them were elderly, 69-year-old and a 70-year-old. They were a married couple. That is uh unfortunate and very sad. And I don't know who the third person was, but basically they're stranded off of the coast, they're not letting anybody come off the ship, and people are getting pretty tired of it, clearly.

SPEAKER_03 4:34

I get that. Like if if I was on a cruise ship for more than like if you take a five five or six-day cruise, I mean, by the time you're done, you're like, I'm ready to get the hell off this boat, regardless. I just don't think I would ever have gotten on the ship. Yeah, being in the middle of the ocean with nothing around. But I would understand if I was out in the middle of the ocean, everybody on the ship got sick, and they were like, we're gonna quarantine the boat. I saw a video, I don't know if it's the same one you saw or not, but the guy was like, you know, I just want everybody to understand that this is like a real life situation, and you know, we're we're all real people, and it's like, yeah, dude, but like you went on a cruise. Yeah, you went on a cruise. Put yourself on on in our in our shoes. You are contaminated with a deadly virus, the whole ship is infected, and you want us to just, oh yeah, come on into the port. We'll just get everyone sick.

SPEAKER_02 5:17

Yeah, go on home, guys. It's okay.

SPEAKER_03 5:20

We don't care if it's why don't you get on the Spirit Airlines flight and we'll fly you back real cheap.

SPEAKER_02 5:26

There's 150 passengers, three dead, multiple are sick, at least one is in ICU evacuation, and it's currently being invested by the World Health Organization. I'm sure we can all rely on that to be uh, well, reliable.

SPEAKER_03 5:41

Everyone on that ship is going to die.

unknown 5:45

Correct.

SPEAKER_02 5:46

And clearly from the report by Stan, uh they want off this boat.

SPEAKER_03 5:51

Mista, Mista, get me out of here. Get me off this boat. That ship isn't docking, it's being ghosted by continents.

SPEAKER_02 5:59

Okay, so here are the real facts. We've got a cruise ship outbreak, the villain is rat urine, it's not a zombie virus, it's not AI, just rodents winning again.

SPEAKER_03 6:12

How does it spread? Is it like literally like a mouse walked into the pantry, peed on a bagel? The guy got the bagel out, he didn't wash his hands, he got pissed all over everything he made, everybody on the ship gets sick. Is it spread through like air conditioning vents?

SPEAKER_02 6:31

Apparently it's spread through inhaling the particles. So I guess if you have a kitchen with rat shit everywhere, and somebody comes in, kicks up some dust, whatever, it can get in the air. So basically it's airborne. Somehow it gets stirred up and it's airborne. I I mean, I don't know if you can catch it in food or whatever, but you know, cruises are always a bunch of buffets, and it seems like the buffets are constant.

SPEAKER_03 6:58

Airborne, it makes me think that like they could have just peed in like a you know, air conditioning. Yeah, like walking around it and then the rooms could be infected with it. Well, the rooms would be infected with it if it was in the air conditioning vent, right? Well, yeah, but I'm saying like if there was a bunch of rats that were running around the ship and shitting everywhere, then you know You know how bad it would be if you owned a cruise line and your your ship was like, oh, uh it's infested with mice and rats and they've pissed in the air conditioning vents, and we could have fixed this whole problem and not killed three people if we just sprayed some Lysol in the intake. It's a serious virus if it if it's killing people. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 7:39

But I think that that's probably more like the people that have been victims of it have been older. So they're they're they're probably the immune systems and whatnot. Right.

SPEAKER_03 7:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 7:49

Exactly. Or they're vaccinated, you know, whatever. Or or or yeah, or the the whole COVID thing coming back up again.

SPEAKER_03 7:56

Um they're dying of the hantavirus. The hantivirus, they're probably just they're their symptoms from the vaccine are just kicking in, that's what it is.

SPEAKER_02 8:05

Yeah, it was probably some Chinese guy transporting it to God knows where. They they seem to be really into the virus thing.

SPEAKER_03 8:12

So how do they know it's the hantavirus if the ship hasn't docked?

SPEAKER_02 8:17

I mean, is it like the stars? Like, do they say, okay, uh John Hanta figured out this virus, so it's now the hantavirus? I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 8:27

I mean, do they like I see what you did there? Um do they did they like take one of the sick people off the ship? Like, how do they I don't understand how they if the ship is quarantined and no one's got on or off of it, how do they know if they radio?

SPEAKER_02 8:42

They're probably just waiting around like look at that guy, he's coughing. Let's get him out of here.

SPEAKER_03 8:47

But how do they know the handovirus is on there at all? Like, what do they how do they not know it's like a wu-han bat flu again or whatever?

SPEAKER_02 8:56

Well, I mean we don't, but uh like anything else, we have to take their word for it, right? So um it I I think what was probably the case is that somebody boarded the ship and already had it. Somehow they, you know, I'd I think that it's possible that the ship could be just nasty as hell, but you would think that there would be complaints, you know, it's like if there was gonna be an outbreak, you know, like they would say something like, hey, you know, my room has you know rat pellets all over the place. Uh my room smells like rat piss, or it seems like there would be some sort of I don't know, it would be easy evidence to find if they if it was on the ship, right? Like you'd be able to go to a source and say, Oh, well, look at this kitchen. It's got rat poop everywhere, and it smells like pea.

SPEAKER_03 9:51

That's exactly well, that's what happened, though. That's so they were like, people started getting sick and started dying, and then they started trying to figure out what was going on, and they were like, Oh, the cleaning crew is all from Somalia.

SPEAKER_02 10:05

I.e. Minnesota. Yeah, that's what it is. So the ship the ship apparently has been denied port. Patients have been evacuated to Africa. So I mean they probably rolled the dice and said, Well, I mean, there's all kinds of stuff there.

SPEAKER_03 10:18

Wait, so they got people off the boat and flew them to Africa?

SPEAKER_02 10:22

Well, no, not if it was on en route to uh from Argentina to Antarctica.

SPEAKER_03 10:27

Even then, like it's like going, hey, we got a guy with Ebola here. Can we bring him to your hospital? Uh no. Uh we're not taking new patients. Yeah. Your insurance isn't accepted here. So we were going to talk about the airline thing, too. I was going to ask you about this Spirit Airlines deal, but before we get into Spirit Airlines, did you see the Delta flight that hit the truck yesterday?

SPEAKER_02 10:49

I saw that. Yeah. I mean, can you imagine being the guy going, hmm, serving my baked goods, everything is fine? Yeah. Wham. You're what he's like, you go home. And listen, guys, you're not gonna believe this story.

SPEAKER_03 11:04

Yeah. Apparently that has that's been a near miss in that same spot like five different times. Is that even covered by insurance? I don't know. Here's the weekend at Bernie's. He's like, My parents died in a train accident. He's she's like, I thought trains were so much safer than planes. And he's like, actually, a plane fell on the train.

SPEAKER_02 11:28

You're like, anyways, I don't know why I brought that up, but uh I I just picture like Colin like uh yeah, Geico. Um so I just got hit on the highway. Um well, sir, did you get the other person's information? Yeah, well, it was sort of a hit and run.

SPEAKER_03 11:48

Yeah. Did you hear but did you hear the recording of the pilots? No. They had no idea they got hit or that they hit anything, none at all.

SPEAKER_02 11:58

Well, and apparently there was a gaping hole in in the plane.

SPEAKER_03 12:01

Yeah, they they said that the pilots like they they played the I saw on TikTok or something, the air traffic control recording, and the pilots are like whatever, 15, 11, 7 heavy, uh landed on runway 20, taxiing to gate two, and like they're they're not, they don't know. And they didn't find out until they got to the gate, got out of the plane, and then did their little walk around with the crew on the ground, and they're like, was that hole always there? It's not the size of a car.

SPEAKER_02 12:31

Seems like we would have had a fuel drain at some point. Weird. There was no dragon air. Well, apparently it hit a light pole that fell on a Jeep, also.

SPEAKER_03 12:42

Now that apparently in that same apparent apparently uh in that same I don't know if you have you seen that kid tack sidetrack squirrel moment, but there's a kid that uh you should clip into this deal because we've said apparently like 72 times. And there's this kid who says apparently in an interview like 320 times. Because the lady's like, you know, what grade are you in? He's like, apparently I'm in like third grade. Apparently I'm in third grade. That's what I'm told. Clearly just learned the word apparently before that day. But anyway, apparently at this same location, like three years ago, another plane didn't hit a car, but they hit a uh a light pole on that exact same freeway in the exact same spot coming into that exact same runway. It's I-95 or something. I think that the pilots are like landing too early on the runway. They're they're way too low.

SPEAKER_02 13:37

Yeah, like maybe their their uh their uh software or whatever in the planes is you know not because you know they have the altimeters or whatever that tell you how close to the ground you are.

SPEAKER_03 13:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:50

It seems like there would be something to say, okay, this bridge and these light poles are, I don't know, 40 feet off the ground. You should not change your approach ground. Right. Pull up, pull up. But this is probably D I A or D D I A. D I A D E D E I. There's probably a lot of D E I going on at D I A. I think the lesson that we've learned here from from this uh Pat or Pat Poop. The lesson we've learned from this rat poop situation is well, avoid rats and rodents for that matter. So in other stories, there is a crackdown happening in California, and apparently they're serving a bunch of warrants on people that are stoling or they are people are stoling people these days. Yeah, there's a lot of stoling, and we got a stoling uh epidemic. Uh no, that so apparently they're serving warrants on people that have sold stolen merchandise from Home Depot, people that have purchased this merchandise. So, you know, it's like, hey, I got I got this uh generator for you, Grandpa. Oh, well, that's great. Well, you didn't have to spend that much. I didn't. You know, it's like, uh, oh, by the way, grandpa, I'm gonna need that back. The police want it. Yeah. So uh anyway, they're cracking down on these thefts. Apparently, police went into the store to interview employees, but they couldn't find anybody. They couldn't find the employees? Oh, that's kind of the thing at Home Depot, right? You can never find anybody to help you.

SPEAKER_03 15:31

No, yeah. I was gonna say that's actually I have I didn't realize you're joking, but I was genuinely thinking it would not be hard to steal things from Home Depot because every time you go in there, especially like in Denver, there's never anybody there, dude. You're like you could walk in, check out yourself at the front entrance and walk out. Yeah, you know.

SPEAKER_02 15:53

Well, and in California is is like Colorado that they charge 10 cents for bags, right? So a lot of people, if they don't bring their own bag, you'll see people just walking out with like handfuls of stuff. And so I I am I'm certain that this is happening more in other stores all over the place, and maybe they're not realizing it yet. But literally, you could walk into a grocery store, go to the self-checkout, you know, put or you don't even have to go through the checkout, really. You could just get go in, grab some stuff, walk out the door. Yeah, and I think it's probably gonna question.

unknown 16:39

Right.

SPEAKER_02 16:40

Well, and that's that's the thing, is that people get and you know, initially, if somebody's walking out without bags, now you they got loss prevention and all that stuff, but if somebody's walking out with bags or without bags, in the past you might go, hmm, I may I should watch that, or you know, I should uh I should look to look at the cameras and see who this was and call the police, see if I can get a license plate or whatever. But these stores, I've I've worked in loss prevention before, and they're very worried about lawsuits, they're very worried about losing or or getting sued for falsely accusing somebody. So whenever people are walking through stores, even if you're following them on camera and they steal something, if you see them steal it, but you don't keep eyes on them the entire time, or there was an opportunity for them to put it back down or whatever, they in the past, no, this was a long time ago, but they would say basically, don't pursue. You can't confirm that they still have it and we don't want a lawsuit. So if people weren't carrying bags in the past, it'd be an indicator, it could be an indicator. You know, most people aren't gonna walk out of Walmart with a handful of shirts. But now people are doing that because, well, I don't want to pay for a bag and I didn't bring my my recyclable bag, which sure works for the environment for all those people that are trying to save the environment. But if if you walk walk out, people might are likely not going to stop you because how do you how do you stick a power saw in your pants, right? Like I depot. I can show you a trigger too. Well, I mean, I was known as the power drill. It's obviously a big problem for them to serve warrants all over the place.

SPEAKER_03 18:25

But you know, there's a lot of stuff that's sold online on Facebook Marketplace, on uh hasn't California spent like the last three years saying like if it's less than $500, we don't care about it? Uh thousand. Thousand. So like really what it is now is like that Home Depot and Lowe's and all these places are like, you know what, man, this is really just a terrible business model. I think we're gonna move out of communist California. And now they're like, okay, what if we went and got some of your stuff back? Then would you stick around? What if we started putting like police at the stores? That's uh I mean, I think that's all it is, is like they're the the the stores are threatening to leave, so now because I mean I know there's theft everywhere, right? But there's not like thousands of dollars worth of of power tools walking out of the uh the Home Depot and the lows that are in Midland. You know?

SPEAKER_02 19:16

I yeah, I I mean, and are they are they taking them right off the trucks? I mean, I th I would think that if this was a big enough problem to serve warrants to everybody, that they would be able to tell just by going back and looking at cameras how many people are walking out and what are they walking out with. I mean, this is part of the problem whenever you go to get a damn paintbrush at Home Depot and you gotta wait for it to get unlocked. Now that's an exaggeration, but it it's it's damn near. If you want any power tools at all here in Colorado, yeah they're gonna be locked up. You're gonna have to get somebody, you're gonna have to find those employees that aren't there or that don't want to be found to unlock it for you.

SPEAKER_03 19:54

It's just like in those um, I don't know if you've seen any of the videos on, but there's like guys going around to like um, I guess more affluent areas. I don't know what you would call it, I don't really know. But they're, you know, a lot of them are actually in Colorado in these videos I've seen. But they're they're doing a uh a documentary on their YouTube channel, basically, these guys that I saw, where they're going to places where there are higher crime rates, and then they're going to places where there are lower crime rates, and they are tying it to the fact that it's uh minorities or um illegal immigrants or whatever in these areas where there's higher crime rates. And then in the lower crime rates, they're going and they're documenting like Walmarts are like, you know, nothing is locked up at the Walmart. And in the other areas, everything's locked up at the Walmart, and you got to get somebody to unlock it. And I'm not sure what the purpose of the documentary is. I haven't got to the end of the end of the videos yet, but they're drawing a conclusion clearly already.

SPEAKER_02 20:53

Right. Yeah. I mean, there was there was a uh a politician I saw on the news that was standing out in front of a CVS somewhere, might have been Minnesota, and they're they're talking about theft out of the CVS and saying, you know, CVS is is wanting to leave, and um, you know, these people out here don't have jobs, and if you want to take away people's jobs and their ability to provide for their families, well, they're gonna steal. So they're they're just taking things out of this store.

SPEAKER_03 21:21

If we take away the store they're stealing from that solves our problem. Yeah, exactly. Like the the the min the entitlement, dude, is it's wild to me. Like, oh well, these people are don't have a job, and if you take their job away, then they're gonna steal. They're they're currently stealing, which is why we're taking their job away.

SPEAKER_02 21:42

They've just continued to steal.

SPEAKER_03 21:44

Yeah. Now we're tired of paying for it, so we're leaving.

SPEAKER_02 21:47

You know, well, there's there's a whole list of things we're tired of paying for, and uh illegal immigration is uh at the top of that list.

SPEAKER_03 21:55

Yeah. Yeah, keep like I saw something earlier today about uh And some liberal dude posted and he was like, hey, you know, I just want to bring to everybody's attention. In the last three three months, we've spent more money on the war in uh Iran than all of the budget that Bernie Sanders asked for for universal free college.

SPEAKER_02 22:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 22:16

And it's like, okay, first off, the college is a lot less valuable if uh people are dropping nuclear bombs on it.

SPEAKER_02 22:25

College is le is is has been proven to be a waste of time. It is a complete scam. It's a bloated industry ran by academics who are trying to keep other people in academics with useless degrees, and therefore they can't provide anything to society that is worth a damn. What is gender studies?

SPEAKER_03 22:53

Right.

SPEAKER_02 22:54

And I mean, like the the gender studies thing, like that seems like it would be a pretty quick class. Yeah. It's like uh there's two genders, right? There's two different types of chromosomes, and uh the final will be on Thursday. Then yeah, that has to be asked since everybody's acknowledging this nowadays. Is can you have stolen Home Depot goods on stolen land?

SPEAKER_03 23:19

I don't think it's possible.

SPEAKER_02 23:21

I don't think it is either. So Spirit Airlines shut down. Spirit Airlines is gone, and there's a bunch of passengers that are trying to figure out what they're going to do. So uh $27 refund or no, the the they're probably getting charged for uh cancellation fee or something. Um so Spirit Airlines was one of those airlines that was budget friendly that uh, you know, people I guess would I I I personally never flew on Spirit Airlines. So I don't I I really all I know is that like Spirit Airlines, Frontier Airlines, it's one of those things where okay, um it's forty-five dollars to fly from here to there. There's going to be 17 layovers, and you know, if you have a bag, that's a $50 upcharge, and you know, on and on and on. If you want peanuts, you know, it's $13 or you know, whatever. We're basically nothing is is uh uh complimentary, so to speak. But here's the here's the uh caveat to that is that back in 2022, uh JetBlue was wanting to purchase Spirit Airlines. And it's probably because the mod their business model sucked. And that was blocked by people like Elizabeth Warren and others saying that it would create a monopoly and that travelers need more options.

SPEAKER_03 24:48

A monopoly.

SPEAKER_02 24:49

Yeah, so they should. I mean, let's not let's not worry about the other 15 major airlines, you know. Yeah that does not make it a monopoly. This could have saved the company and potentially thousands of I don't have any stock yet. Elizabeth Warren allegedly sold off stock to Spirit Airlines just before.

SPEAKER_03 25:10

Oh, I'm sure we've got them now. Yeah, yeah. That's what happens. When she had jet blue trying to get Spirit, she didn't have any Spirit stock, so she went and bought it and then was like, you know, they'll try again later. Next time I'll vote yes, it's all gonna work out for me. Then she found out Spirit's gonna go under, and she's like, I should sell that before it happens.

SPEAKER_02 25:30

Or that was the plan the whole time. They knew that if they didn't allow the merger to go through, Spirit Airlines would eventually tank. Yeah, and they bought stock and betted against it.

SPEAKER_03 25:45

So yeah, you know, either either way, both things are possible. I keep seeing all these people on social media, they're like, we're gonna get together and we're gonna buy Spirit Airlines. That sounds real good. GoFundMe? On a TikTok. Yeah, literally, they're they're putting, yeah, there's like a website somebody built and they've got like 21 million dollars. The problem is they need 500 million, or was it 500 million? I think it's 500 million to just keep them afloat.

SPEAKER_02 26:15

Where does the GoFundMe money go if they don't get to the goal?

SPEAKER_03 26:19

I think if you if you don't meet the goal, it goes back to everybody who donated it, if I remember right.

SPEAKER_02 26:25

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 26:26

But either way, these are the same people. So Spirit Airlines going out of business because they didn't get a $500 billion or $500 million government bailout. The same people who are like, we don't need government bailouts. Bailouts are terrible. Companies should just die, right? Which personally I agree with, I agree with. Like if the company's not No bailouts. Yeah, no bailouts, shouldn't happen. But from the left side of the aisle, you got a lot of people who are like, you know, bailouts are wrong and we shouldn't do this, and companies should just fail if they're, you know, there's no such thing as too big to fail. Completely agree. But then when they do fail, they flip the script and they're like, let's just make it a communist airline. Let's all put into it together. And I'm like, it failed because it's too cheap.

SPEAKER_02 27:16

You can get you, let's say you get to $500 million. Okay, congratulations. Now you've got to run the thing. Yeah. You've got to have you got to have capital. Now, okay, sure. You okay, now what's let's just say that they bought it. Let's say it, okay, they came up with the and all these people are suddenly owners of spirit airlines and and all that. Guess what's gonna happen? The fees and everything will the little bitty chump fees will go away and the price of the tickets will quadruple.

SPEAKER_03 27:42

Yeah. So then they'll just be like every other airline. I mean, if if these people are truly like the communists that they profess to be, then you will open up the company with your $500 million investment. And as a new owner, you're gonna owe a couple hundred dollars every month for the rest of your life because that's what they're losing. You're you're not gonna be able to run the company. You have to be able to pay your pilots and your your your you know, baggage handlers and everything else. So if you don't have that, you'd you don't have a company, man. I mean, like that, I don't understand the people who are pushing for buying the company. The company should dissolve, a bigger company should buy it, buy all their assets for pennies on the dollar, relaunch it, and the public should pay $150 a ticket instead of $47 a ticket or whatever it is, because that's what it costs to operate an airline, you know? And if those companies can't do it at $150 and they have to market up $225, and we all decide we're not flying, and the market works it out. The market works it out. If they have to sell their planes, if they have to go, if American Airlines goes bankrupt, it is what it is. Shit happens, you know?

SPEAKER_02 28:52

Exactly.

SPEAKER_03 28:52

That's what we've gotten away from in our country. We're like all these people who are um all of these liberal communist people, they're all like, well, we need you know, the government needs to own everything. Well, the government can't do it any more efficiently. Like this is this is the these are the numbers. This is what it costs. You know, you're we're all gonna be paying a hundred percent of our income for taxes for all you know, free college and free medical and free flights and free everything.

SPEAKER_02 29:18

I think it's natural selection. Uh I think that Spirit Airlines was raining the ground, the business model sucked, the company folded. I'm gonna the government should not have stopped them from being able to merge. They shouldn't have done that. I don't I don't even know why the like if it's a legitimate case for an antitrust thing, you know, it's it's becoming a monopoly. If it's legitimate, then I see looking at that, like, okay, there's only three airlines, and this one airline wants to buy the other two, okay, they're monopolizing. We need to look into this. But when there's unknown, I mean not unknown, but if there's you know 12 or 13 or 15 major airlines and one wants to merge with the other, that's nowhere near a monopoly. So you have to ask yourself the question why? Why would they not want to approve to let this company be saved? It could have saved thousands of jobs and and and a lot of headaches. And they might have merged to become one of the best airlines. You never know. We will never know. So basically, the airline industry has lost a competitor, if you can call it that. I'm sure that the uh people at United and Delta and all those are not too worried about it. Before we go on that story, let's cut to our reporter in the field.

SPEAKER_00 30:35

Hey there, Tim and Tabry. I am at an airport because Spirit Airlines suddenly and without warning ceased operations. Customers of the airline were not surprised when they were charged a $25 failed business model fee. When we asked for comment, Spirit Airlines said they don't respond to podcasts with less than 50 followers. Back to you.

SPEAKER_02 30:50

Great report, D. That is just uh riveting and fact-filled. Okay, so to recap, rap virus, cruise ships, organized tool crime, airlines disappearing. Your safest travel plan? Stay home. Avoid rodents, and if you have to fly, lower your expectations because it's not going to be fun. Everybody, thanks for dropping in. Hopefully you enjoyed it, and we are out of here.