I'm Saved, I'm Good...

I'm Saved,  I'm Good...

In this week's episode of the TRUTH Be Told Podcast, join Evangelist Michele Love and Pastor Steve Hofmeister as they discuss Scripture about Salvation. 

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

All right, so good afternoon, Michelle.

SPEAKER_03 0:02

Here we are again. Hello. Yes, we're excited. We are back again doing a podcast.

SPEAKER_01 0:07

Yes, yes. Just the two of us again this week. It was great having guests last week, and we'd love to have more guests on. So if you're really if you're interested in being on one of our recording sessions for truth be told, we'd love to have you reach out to us.

SPEAKER_03 0:25

Um gosh, we could do them on the RV.

SPEAKER_01 0:27

Yeah, and we're gonna be having our the Voice of Truth Center is gonna be having our Hope on Wheels.

SPEAKER_03 0:33

Um Blessings on board.

SPEAKER_01 0:35

Blessings on board. Heck, we call it an RV, we call it a boss, we we call it everything but you know, the vehicle that it is.

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How bob. Hope on wheels, blessing on board. How bob!

SPEAKER_01 0:47

How bob we just need to call it Bob.

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Blessings on board.

SPEAKER_01 0:54

We're showing up with Bob. Blessings on board. But yeah, we'll be able to do the podcast on the bus, which would be really awesome.

SPEAKER_03 1:04

That would be fun.

SPEAKER_01 1:05

So uh we're gonna be doing a lot in the community with that. But before we get in, we can talk more about that. Um, let's go ahead and um get to roll in the opening and uh and we'll get started.

SPEAKER_00 1:20

Thanks for joining us for this week's episode.

SPEAKER_01 1:52

We just thank you for this gorgeous day that you've given us today, Lord. We just thank you for, as always, for the technology and the ability to reach the people through the this awesome technology. Father, we just ask that you empty us out, Lord, just empty us out and use us as your vessels, fill us up with the Holy Spirit and cover us in a blood covenant, Father, and just prepare us to listen to what you want from this episode and to speak with you in mind and to reach those who need to hear your voice through this this vessel of a show. Yes, Father. We just we raised this to you in Jesus' name.

SPEAKER_03 2:38

Thank you so much. I want to bring up that we did start the spiritual warfare podcast before the podcast last time because we had guests, and we want to just kind of let you know that we are turning that into a class, and the class will actually be live streamed. So we're gonna get all the details together. We were gonna start the class on March 14th. We may extend it so we can get all these details put together, right? Um, but we'll let you guys know. But um it'll be live streamed or in person. Yeah, we understand that not all of you live in Maryland, right?

SPEAKER_01 3:13

It's probably be on Facebook, be on our Facebook page and probably through our TikTok uh would probably be the methods that they would be going out.

SPEAKER_03 3:22

Yeah. We'll we'll definitely it it's important for people to have this knowledge. Absolutely. And spiritual warfare is not a one and done, it's way more than that. So um stay tuned for that. We'll get everybody the information and um hope you'll join us.

SPEAKER_01 3:37

Um, but today we could do we could do a whole podcast just on spiritual warfare. It's a lot, it's sad.

SPEAKER_03 3:44

So but speaking of one and done, um, I think this is I'm saved, I'm good. How many people may say that? I'm saved, I'm good. Um, and it that's that couldn't be further from the truth. And I actually have scripture to back that up, right? Um, so that's kind of where we're going today. Um understanding that once you accept Jesus Christ as your savior, there is the new life begins. There is a whole whirlwind of amazement from God. And it's the rest of your life is paying attention to God, focusing, training up, growing, learning, understanding, gaining wisdom, knowledge, discernment. It's it's like we could probably be speaking for this whole 30 minutes of all the things that happen after you get saved.

SPEAKER_01 4:45

Absolutely. What just came under my spirit is it's not a stamp of approval, it's a ticket for the ride.

SPEAKER_03 4:52

Okay. You know, we have different viewpoints of things, but I like the way you see things. Um, and I agree. Yeah, it's it's not it's not the end all of anything, it's the new beginning. And I think a lot of people just kind of ride it out that I accepted Jesus Christ and I'm saved and I'm going to heaven and I'm forgiven for my sins. Right. And you go right back to your old life. And that truly, truly, truly could not be further from the truth.

SPEAKER_02 5:21

Right.

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You now have a new identity, you now have a new, you are a new creation, a renewed creation in Christ, through Christ in God. So um, let's jump into Colossians three. Um and kind of we're gonna kind of read and stop and talk. So it says in Colossians three, verse one. Um, I think we're going through verse 11, but we'll see how far we get. If then you were raised with Christ, seek those things which are above where Christ is, sitting at the right hand of God. There's a lot of meat in that verse. If then do you notice God does that all the time? If then in this particular scripture, they're literally right after each other. If then you were raised. So what it's saying is you've already received Christ, right? So now you're you were raised with Christ, meaning your big brother is your savior, because you're in the same family now, right? So you're raised with Christ, meaning you follow the same thing he did, you do what he did. Yeah, you're raised with him, not raised alongside of him, not raised behind him, right, not raised in front of him, you're raised, scripture says it, with Christ. That's the first line, all that meat.

SPEAKER_02 7:24

Right.

SPEAKER_03 7:26

If then, so what's God saying is it's already done.

SPEAKER_01 7:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 7:31

If you accept, then you did you were raised with Christ.

SPEAKER_01 7:38

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 7:40

I mean, there's so much meat to that. There is, there's no questioning who we follow when we're saved.

SPEAKER_01 7:49

Yeah.

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You follow who you're raised with, right? Christ. And you're raised with Christ the minute you are saved.

SPEAKER_01 8:00

That's right.

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It also gives me the vision of what we talked about in Bible study when Jesus was raised up after he died, because when they found his burial clothes, it was like he just lifted right up out of them.

SPEAKER_02 8:15

Right.

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That's being raised from the dead self to the new life, because he rose from the dead, he resurrected, he was alive.

SPEAKER_01 8:29

Got it.

SPEAKER_03 8:30

We read this in the Bible study the other night. Alive in Christ, and this backs it up. And I'm pretty sure we were in Ephesians. If then you were raised with Christ, yes, we're saved, we follow Jesus, we were raised from our dead life, we are now alive in Christ. All that's scripture, all that is scripture. Then it says, comma, after Christ, seek those things which are above where Christ is, sitting at the right hand of God. Okay. So now the first sentence, we're with Christ, raised with him. The second, we are seeking, which is what do you think of seeking? What do you think of when you hear that word?

SPEAKER_01 9:30

Oh gosh, what did I read this morning? Because I read something specifically in the the commentaries and whatnot in my Bible about seeking. Seeking isn't just looking for, it's it's being it's how did that word die? It was about reaching for, it was about actually searching, not just looking, but searching for something.

SPEAKER_03 9:56

Right. Yeah. So we this scripture, I'm looking up a scripture. This scripture is telling us look up, look for, right, don't stop seeking those things which are above. God is above.

SPEAKER_01 10:18

Right.

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All good things come from above. I'm gonna read a couple scriptures to you about that. So seeking those things which are above where Christ is, sitting at the right hand of God. So this is twofold. Think when you think about it. Raised with Christ, Christ was raised from the dead and went back, and and he's with God at the right hand of God right now, he's there now. That's where we're gonna be.

SPEAKER_02 10:47

Right.

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But you have to do the word we have to follow Christ and always look above. And that takes me to Psalm 121. I will lift up my eyes to the hills from whence comes my help. My help comes from the Lord who made heaven and earth. So God helps those who seek Him. What do you seek with? We seek with our eyes, right?

SPEAKER_01 11:30

That's right.

SPEAKER_03 11:31

So paralleling that with verse one, then you will, you were raised with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ is sitting at the right hand of God. Psalm 121. I will lift my eyes to the hills, which is heaven.

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That's right.

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Up.

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You want your eyes up. When you look at hills, you're going up.

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That's right.

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Where from whence my help comes from? My help comes from the Lord who made heaven and earth. Why would you seek God for help, for answers, for guidance, for provision, for healing, for deliverance. I could go on and on and on.

SPEAKER_01 12:11

Right, right.

SPEAKER_03 12:12

Seeking God is praying.

SPEAKER_01 12:14

It is.

SPEAKER_03 12:15

When you seek, you pray. Prayer is talking to God. With that reverential fear, taking God seriously. George mentioned that to me yesterday. It's taking God seriously.

SPEAKER_01 12:27

Yes.

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And so all this scripture wrapped up into one leads you to understanding Matthew 6.33.

SPEAKER_02 12:36

All right.

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For I seek first the kingdom of God where up and his righteousness, and all these things shall be provided to you.

SPEAKER_01 12:48

Yeah.

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Everything we need, we are to seek those things which are above where Christ is sitting at the right hand of God. That is one verse.

SPEAKER_01 13:01

One verse.

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And all of that that comes out of it. Now couple that with salvation.

SPEAKER_01 13:11

Right.

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That's what salvation is.

SPEAKER_01 13:14

It is. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 13:16

You have been raised from the dead when you accepted Christ. You are now alive in Christ. So you need to be looking up, praying, seeking, asking all things from above. Right. You're praying to God where your help comes from. That's right. Your help comes from the Lord. My eyes look up to the hills because that's where my help comes from.

SPEAKER_01 13:42

Right.

SPEAKER_03 13:42

And then Matthew 6 33, go to God first.

SPEAKER_01 13:45

Right.

SPEAKER_03 13:46

He's got the answers. Christ is right there next to him. Christ had all the answers when he was here.

SPEAKER_01 13:52

That's right.

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Because he sought the Lord. Right. About everything.

SPEAKER_01 13:58

And you take that and then you get into the word. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 14:03

I mean, if people just, if folks just took the time to allow people who discern this the Bible, the scriptures, they could really change their life. But I'll be honest with you, it doesn't even go that far. One of the jobs of the Holy Spirit is to help us discern the word.

SPEAKER_01 14:28

Oh, yes.

SPEAKER_03 14:29

It's clear that He helps us discern the Word. He also helps us pray when we don't know how to pray. So if you open the Bible and you seek those things above, you go to God first and say, I really want to open the Bible and understand what you're saying to me. I want clarity and discernment when I read this. And most importantly, I want to apply it to my life.

SPEAKER_01 14:52

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 14:53

Or my situation.

SPEAKER_01 14:54

Yes.

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Or these people I'm worried about, or these missing children.

SPEAKER_01 14:58

Right.

SPEAKER_03 14:58

Because all of the scripture that we've had, correct me if I'm wrong, praying for the missing children has come straight from the Bible. So God already knew this was going to happen.

SPEAKER_01 15:09

Yeah, exactly. There's nothing you're going to encounter in life that is not accounted for in that Bible. Nothing.

SPEAKER_03 15:17

And Jesus encountered everything.

SPEAKER_01 15:19

Exactly. And a very short period of time.

SPEAKER_03 15:23

So understanding the importance of the Bible, of the word of God after you're saved.

SPEAKER_01 15:31

Yeah.

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And doing what it says. But being but asking the Holy Spirit, help me understand it. Help me see what God's trying to say to me. Because God does God speak to us through the Bible?

SPEAKER_01 15:44

Oh gosh, yes.

SPEAKER_03 15:46

How many times do we get promptings and ideas and creativity?

SPEAKER_01 15:49

Constantly. Constantly.

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When we're stuck, where do we go first?

SPEAKER_01 15:52

We go to prayer and we go to word.

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Seek things in everything above.

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Yes.

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Seek those things which are above where Christ is sitting at the right hand of God. That's a promise.

SPEAKER_01 16:05

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 16:06

Christ already knew what we were going to go through. Right now, Steve, let's let's just be real. It is hell out there in the world.

SPEAKER_01 16:18

So much so.

SPEAKER_03 16:19

I don't even know how people do it, Steve, not being a Christian.

SPEAKER_01 16:23

Yeah, I'm with you. I mean, when I think I think back to the person that I was, I'm gonna say 20 years ago. In comparison to now, I don't understand how I how I made it that far. I really don't. I really don't. If I had to go back, which I never would, I don't know. I couldn't do it. I couldn't do it.

SPEAKER_03 16:52

By the grace of God through salvation in Jesus Christ.

SPEAKER_01 16:56

That's right.

SPEAKER_03 16:57

God's grace officially began when Jesus died on the cross and rose. That's when God's grace. Now, yes, I know that the some of the old prophets and some of the old testament folks had the grace of God upon them. Moses and Joseph and David and a lot of them, Eli and Samuel and Elijah and Elisha.

SPEAKER_01 17:19

Right.

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But God's grace truly shines when we receive Christ as our Savior.

SPEAKER_01 17:28

Absolutely.

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God's grace shows up immediately and it doesn't leave.

SPEAKER_01 17:33

That's right.

SPEAKER_03 17:34

So verse two, let's go there. Let's just dive in a little bit ther a little bit further. So if you're just joining us, we're in Colossians chapter three. We've only gotten through verse one, and I think we've been talking about verse one for the last 15 minutes. Now we're jumping into verse two.

SPEAKER_01 17:48

A little more, actually, I believe.

SPEAKER_03 17:50

Set your mind on things above. So we're seeking things the first verse, remember?

SPEAKER_02 17:57

Right.

SPEAKER_03 17:57

We're seeking things which are above. Now he's saying, set your mind on things above, not on things on the earth.

SPEAKER_01 18:06

That's right.

SPEAKER_03 18:08

They're spiritual things. What are the things above? Spiritual.

SPEAKER_01 18:11

Yes, all spiritual.

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There are things from God that we don't that we can't even comprehend.

SPEAKER_01 18:23

That's right.

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When we have a need, do we go to God first? We should be sometimes we forget.

SPEAKER_01 18:31

Exactly.

SPEAKER_03 18:32

Sometimes we try to just take over and do it ourselves.

SPEAKER_01 18:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 18:37

I mean, we can go backtracking through this ministry the last year. Because it's been a year.

SPEAKER_01 18:44

Yeah, yeah. It has. Wow.

SPEAKER_03 18:49

The things that we were unsure of, the things that we thought we were supposed to do, the things that we were waiting for God to open the door, we were waiting for funding, we were waiting for people, we were waiting for this, this, this, and that. And there were times when we had to regroup and understand, not did we miss it, but are we supposed to wait?

SPEAKER_01 19:13

Right.

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Because if you start with God in the beginning and seeking him for things, spiritual things, well, then you have to stay with him and set your mind on what you just sought him for.

SPEAKER_01 19:30

That's right.

SPEAKER_03 19:31

You have to believe that he heard you, he knows what's best for you, and you just have to keep praying, right? Praising, reading the word, and he'll tell you exactly what to do.

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Follow the leader. Yep.

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He's that awesome.

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Indeed.

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We are never to set our mind on things that are on the earth, right? Which are non-spiritual things.

SPEAKER_01 20:03

That's right.

SPEAKER_03 20:04

All that we ask God for starts in the spiritual realm. Whether it's a physical need, whether it's a tangible need, whatever, whether it's spiritually, spiritual need, mental need, financial need, material need, whatever the need is, right? You have to see it in a spiritual realm first.

SPEAKER_01 20:28

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 20:30

If you don't see it, then you have to wait. And God will make it clear that is from me, that isn't from me. Do you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 20:43

Oh yeah. Oh yeah, we've encountered. I mean, how many times have we encountered that?

SPEAKER_03 20:47

Yeah. You know, with the buildings, with different things, we thought he was opening the door and he didn't open the door. But remember everything we went through, we did everything he said.

SPEAKER_01 21:00

Indeed.

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But if if hearts weren't changed, or we did what he said, and that was all we're supposed to do.

SPEAKER_01 21:08

Right.

SPEAKER_03 21:08

Because our our hearts and our minds were set on things above.

SPEAKER_01 21:12

Right.

SPEAKER_03 21:12

Lord, you're in control. We're just doing what you tell us to do.

SPEAKER_01 21:16

Right.

SPEAKER_03 21:16

You know, when he said march around the building seven times and anoint it, we did that. We did that. We might see down the road what the greater purpose is of that.

SPEAKER_01 21:24

Right.

SPEAKER_03 21:25

And maybe that's all we were supposed to do. Usher in the spirit.

SPEAKER_01 21:29

Exactly.

SPEAKER_03 21:30

Pull out whatever was in there.

SPEAKER_01 21:32

Right.

SPEAKER_03 21:32

It doesn't matter. He moved us on.

SPEAKER_01 21:35

Exactly.

SPEAKER_03 21:36

And and now we have other things birthing.

SPEAKER_01 21:39

Yeah. Oh gosh, yes.

SPEAKER_03 21:41

So, but one thing, Steve, he has said to me for years and years. You're going out with word.

SPEAKER_01 21:51

Indeed.

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You are the word of truth. It is in you. Christ is in you. Take the word and Now go to my people.

SPEAKER_01 22:03

That's right. That's exactly what we're getting ready to do.

SPEAKER_03 22:07

And the last part of this, for you died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God. I love that. It's your identification with Christ.

SPEAKER_01 22:21

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 22:22

For you died. I mean, this is a powerful verse. Your life, and he's not talking about when you're dead and you're gone from the earth. He's talking about when you died, when you accepted Christ. You died to yourself. And now your life is hidden with Christ in God.

SPEAKER_01 22:44

Right.

SPEAKER_03 22:44

Your identification is now with Christ in God. Because Jesus is in God. God is in Jesus. Jesus is in us. God is in us. So our identification is with the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Who are you? His.

SPEAKER_02 23:18

That's it.

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He is our whole entire life.

SPEAKER_01 23:31

That's right.

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And I like that it's our life is hidden within Christ and God that's identifying exactly who we are after death of ourself.

SPEAKER_01 23:44

That's right.

SPEAKER_03 23:45

After and that and death to self comes and salvation.

SPEAKER_01 23:49

That's right.

SPEAKER_03 23:50

That's the only time it can come. There's no other religion that you die to yourself.

SPEAKER_01 23:55

Right.

SPEAKER_03 23:56

There's no other religion that you identify now in the life of Christ. There's no other religion that you're alive in Christ. I'm not dissing any other religions, but it literally is the only religion that has a physical transformation that happens to you.

SPEAKER_01 24:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 24:11

The old man passes away. Your new identity is now in Christ. That's why we always say you're in or you're out.

SPEAKER_01 24:20

Right.

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Out is the dead, the death and sin, and you and self-righteousness.

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Walk in the worldly road.

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In is God righteousness. God righteousness is being made right with God through the Savior.

SPEAKER_01 24:37

That's right.

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And you don't do anything to be God righteous.

SPEAKER_01 24:41

That's right.

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And if you're self-righteous, that means it's about you, and you're the one who dictates whatever your life is, and you do whatever you want to do.

SPEAKER_01 24:54

Right. Which is not in alignment with God.

SPEAKER_03 24:56

So you're either self-righteous out, or you're God righteous. God righteous in. Right. And that's why this identity thing is so important.

SPEAKER_01 25:05

Which is where your whole the whole fence rider thing comes in.

SPEAKER_03 25:08

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 25:09

Which I'm gonna go ahead. I'm gonna I'm gonna go ahead and say I'm gonna take a moment.

SPEAKER_03 25:12

That's right, you just read it.

SPEAKER_01 25:13

You yeah, exactly. I just read Fence Rider, so I'm gonna plug Fence Rider for Michelle. Excellent book. Everybody needs to read Fence Rider. It is amazing. You can get it on Amazon, you can get it on our website. An absolutely important book for anybody who's dealing with those moments of, well, okay, I'm gonna go this way, I'm gonna go do this with my friends because that's what we always did. Or no, I'm gonna go over here because that's what Christ would do. You need to read this book because it it just cuts it right down the middle and gets you to understand what a fence rider is. It's that person who teeters back and forth between walking with Christ and walking in the world. Absolute excellent book.

SPEAKER_03 25:56

Now, can you use the book as a reference in life?

SPEAKER_01 25:59

Oh, for sure.

SPEAKER_03 26:00

That's why I was thinking too.

SPEAKER_01 26:02

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 26:03

It's it's we should tell too what's happening in Nigeria with it, but we'll tell in a minute. But the book is$7.77.

SPEAKER_01 26:11

Yeah, it's a very, very cheap priced book, but and it you can we'll give it more right.

SPEAKER_03 26:16

We'll just give it to you.

SPEAKER_01 26:17

Yeah, if you you can't.

SPEAKER_03 26:19

We have about 25-30 copies. No, I don't think we have that many now. I think I have about 15 copies. We'll just give it to you. Yeah, just because it's such that important. Yeah, just so important. Nigeria, we've hooked up with praying for human trafficking and the kids.

SPEAKER_01 26:35

We have a pastor friend in Nigeria now, yeah.

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And we just sent them the book, they're printing it actually in Nigeria, hundreds of copies. Yep, and they're using it as an evangelistic tool.

SPEAKER_01 26:47

That's right.

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Because the pastor that we have been talking with asked for it and we gave it to them.

SPEAKER_01 26:54

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 26:55

And there is that's pretty cool. The book we know for sure now is international.

SPEAKER_01 27:00

That's wow, praise God.

SPEAKER_03 27:02

Because we sent it yesterday, and what a God blessing that it will be a tool that's halfway across the world that people are using. Thank you for that. And Steve, I think, did a review on uh Amazon too.

SPEAKER_01 27:19

Yes, I did do a review on the Amazon. Yes, I did.

SPEAKER_03 27:22

I don't write these books, the Holy Spirit writes them. I am the one that's sitting there listening, just like this beautiful youth devotion, kids that are probably 10 and up. Yeah, it is the forum, the format for this devotion book. I've never ever seen. Jesus calling might be close, but for the kids, it's really, really cool.

SPEAKER_01 27:49

That's called Turn the Page, right?

SPEAKER_03 27:50

Turn the page for the youth. Yeah, turn the page 365 days. You ready for this? It is a 60-second devotional. Yes, that the kids can go back to. It makes them think, it makes them it not makes them, I don't want to use that word. It it allows them to take the word and a conversation with God and a prayer at their own pace.

SPEAKER_01 28:13

Yes. And it catches them at their speed because things with these kids today just move so fast. A minute is like everything to them. Things go that fast. So having them being able to do a one-minute devotional is like right in line with their speed today.

SPEAKER_03 28:29

And we're gonna have in the front of the book, this is what he just has been showing me over this past week. There'll be like, I don't know if it's really a table of contents, but I think it's more um things you might be dealing with. And it'll have each it'll have 365.

SPEAKER_01 28:45

A topical guide.

SPEAKER_03 28:47

They'll be able to, they'll be able to refer to those pages if they want to specifically go to it's gonna take a little bit of time for us to do this because we're actually gonna publish this ourselves. Steve and I are gonna give it a shot and publish this ourselves. Um, but it's actually gonna be very easy to navigate this book. It's not a big book, it's still gonna be a short book, right? It's gonna be a thicker book, but um not really because it's the devotions are gonna be on both sides.

SPEAKER_01 29:14

Yeah, on both sides.

SPEAKER_03 29:15

So, and they're just a one-page devotion, right? So um it'll be 365 divided by two, whatever that is. Yeah, whatever that works at the back.

SPEAKER_01 29:25

So anyway, but we're thinking they're taking we're taking pre-orders for that on our website, VOTC.us.

SPEAKER_03 29:30

Yeah, it's gonna be a hard copy.

SPEAKER_01 29:32

It's something you're interested in.

SPEAKER_03 29:33

Yeah, it's gonna be a hard copy just so that people the kids can stuff it into their backpacks.

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So moving on from the commercial!

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All right, the last scripture that I think that God's taken us to, when Christ, who is our life, appears. Wow, then you also will appear with him in glory.

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I have a note here that says, Focus and attention. What does that say?

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I'm sorry, give me a second, guys. Focus. Oh, here it is. This is cool. Fulfill the command daily to display your attention and affection towards spiritual things because of their identification with Christ by death to the past and their empowerment for the present by the resurrection of Jesus. Can we read it again?

SPEAKER_01 30:40

Yeah, please.

SPEAKER_03 30:41

This is cool. I like this because it's talking about the Colossians are able to fulfill the command daily to display their attention, their focus, okay, and affection. Affection is cool. I like that towards spiritual things. What are the spiritual things that are above? God, Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit.

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That's right.

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And he's saying because of their identification with Christ, by death to their past, the past, our old self, and their empowerment for the present by the resurrection of Jesus. That's why we live in the present. I love that. When Christ, who is our life, appears, then you also will appear with him in glory. That's when he comes back.

SPEAKER_02 31:33

Right.

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I like that. Christ, who is our life. There's a couple pieces of really good word in here. Your life is hidden with Christ in God. That's a one to take to heart. Put it up here in that mind. My life is hidden with Christ in God. I died. For you died. For you, for I you can say this as a prayer. Lord, I died, and your life, and no, it's my life. I died, and my life is now hidden with Christ in God.

SPEAKER_01 32:15

Yes. So you hear a lot of people say that the slate's been wiped clean. That's the same thing. It's been that you have to live that way. Exactly. You have to live that way, of course.

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And that's where I think we're gonna be heading somewhere, someplace, somewhere, maybe Sunday service.

SPEAKER_01 32:32

Right.

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When Christ, who is our life, because our life is hidden in him, he is our life. We were raised with him. Yes, we seek things that are above where he is with his father. We put our mind on things above up there where he is with our father. It's it's really encompassing the presence. We have the present to live in Christ because of the resurrection.

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That's right.

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We live in the present. I think folks need to understand what happened in the past is dead.

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That's right.

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People need to forgive.

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It's past, it's gone, it's a past, it's behind, it's gone. You're in the present now. Why is it a present? It's a present from God because it is a new beginning every day.

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And the past, when Christ died on the cross, died on him.

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Right.

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Death was on him with all sin. So when he rose from the dead, when he rose up, it was done.

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That's right.

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We have to live it in that same way. Yes. It is finished.

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It is finished.

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Your past is gone. That's right. Now, in salvation is sanctification. That's your whole journey till you're in heaven.

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That's right.

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It's the second part of being saved.

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That's right.

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In sanctification, you have to forgive people, places, and things from your past.

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Yeah.

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You have to heal.

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That's right.

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And sometimes God has to take you back there.

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Yeah.

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Because let's face it, we forget things we did.

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Right.

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We forget things people did to us because sometimes people black them out.

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Right.

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God doesn't want that. That's the part of the past.

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That's right.

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God only walks in the present. Jesus only walks in the present. We are only living in the present. Because that's where the life is.

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That's right.

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In the past is where our dead life is. It's pretty powerful.

SPEAKER_01 34:53

It is.

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I know this is going to be a continuation.

SPEAKER_01 34:56

It's uh a lot of the scriptures that he seems to point us to, especially in this podcast, they're very complex. There's a lot of meat to them. Yeah. I mean, we could go on and on and on. We could literally sit here for hours doing podcasts. Do a 24-hour podcast marathon.

SPEAKER_03 35:12

Probably just like six scriptures.

SPEAKER_01 35:17

That's what you call that. That's what you hear when you hear people talk about uh expository study and expository preaching. It's digging into those that meat of those scriptures and bringing it to the surface. Yes.

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I like this before we go, because I'll pray us out in a minute. I like this because there's a little word in here that's highlighted in verse 4 in Colossians 3 and appears is highlighted. Now remember the scripture was when Christ who is our life appears, then you also will appear with him in glory. Listen what the broken down word appears means.

SPEAKER_02 35:54

All right.

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In the I guess this is Greek or it might be Hebrew. Um it's called Phanera. Phanera O. Phanera O. Appears, that's how you say it. To lay bare. Wow. To reveal, to uncover.

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Okay.

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To make visible. To make known what has been hidden or unknown. To make it clear. Because appears, we think, show up.

SPEAKER_01 36:32

Right.

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That's not even one word here.

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Wow.

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To lay bare, to reveal, to uncover, to make visible, Jesus coming back. This is Jesus coming back.

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Right.

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He he's coming back to make known what has been hidden. Remember the Bible says the mysteries of the gospel all over?

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Yes.

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To what has been hidden or unknown to make clear funerio tells us of Christ's appearing when we see him in the full expression of his glorious character.

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Wow. Wow.

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God's glory was on his son when he rose from the dead.

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Yes.

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We inherit everything that Christ that is Christ. The Bible says that. We have the same inheritance. That same glory that is on his son when he rose and went back up, because that glory was all the shekana glory of God was all over him. Yes. We will have that same glory because it says when Christ, who is our life, appears, then you also will appear with him in glory. Yes. We will have the shekana glory of God on us. When we are raptured up, and when he comes back and everything is said and done, and then he goes back to be the king of the new heaven. Yes, that same shekana glory will be on us with him. That's pretty powerful to grasp and understand who we are in Christ. Our full that's our full identity, because you know the third part of salvation is glorification.

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Glorification.

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That's when we go up.

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That's when we go.

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Yep. So salvation is not just one and done.

SPEAKER_01 38:32

Right.

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I'm good, I'm saved, I'm going to heaven, I'm forgiven. Living for God in Christ, seeking God for everything, knowing Christ already went through it, overcame it, conquered everything that we go through. And everything Jesus needed. I'm thinking of the the two fish and five loaves.

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Yeah.

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He just held it up to the Lord.

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That's right.

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Where do your eyes go? Up to the hills.

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That's right.

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I can't, but you can, God. So let's what let's roll into prayer. Wow. Salvation is for life.

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It is.

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But salvation is life.

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Indeed.

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Life in Christ. We are alive only in Christ. We are not alive in ourselves. Ourself died when we received Jesus Christ as our Savior. And I pray today, if you do not know Jesus Christ as your Savior, let's say this prayer together. Because that is where it all begins. And that is when God's grace falls down upon your entire mind, body, and spirit. So, Father God, thank you for sending Jesus.

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Yes.

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We need Jesus in our heart, Lord. I need Jesus in my heart. Speak it with us, friends. I need Jesus in my heart. Jesus in my heart. I need a savior.

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I need a savior.

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Lord, I know I have sinned against you.

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I know I have sinned against you.

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And only Jesus made the way.

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And only Jesus made the way.

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I am forgiven. I am forgiven. I am reconciled back to you, God.

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I am reconciled back to you, God.

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I will have eternal life in heaven.

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I will have eternal life in heaven.

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And I will learn how to do this, Jesus way.

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And I will learn how to do this, Jesus.

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I am now in Christ. I am now in Christ. Who is in God? Who is in God? I am a new creation.

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I am a new creation. Woo!

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Old things pass away.

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Old things pass away.

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Behold God.

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Behold God.

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You are doing a new thing in me.

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You are doing a new thing in me.

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Recreated.

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Recreated. Renewed. Renewed. Redeemed. Redeemed. By the blood of Jesus Christ. By the blood of Jesus Christ. Thank you, God. Thank you, God. For saving a wretch like me. For saving a wretch like me. I am in your family. I am in your family. In your fold. In your fold. Use me, God, and train me up. Use me, God, and train me up. In the name of Jesus, amen. In the name of Jesus. Woo!

SPEAKER_03 41:05

Yes. He said that prayer. Please reach out. We'll get you a journal. We'll get you a Bible. Whatever God puts on our heart will help you.

SPEAKER_01 41:13

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SPEAKER_03 41:30

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SPEAKER_03 42:36

Absolutely. So and be safe, everybody, be blessed.

SPEAKER_01 42:40

Absolutely.

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Join us soon. Sunday, we'll be live for church service in the park. And there's a lot more coming from this place. So from God's place, Voice of Truth Center is God's center. So thank you for joining us today. And keep walking word, keep walking in truth, keep looking up, keep seeking above for all things. God has it. God has you. In Jesus' name, amen. And agree.

SPEAKER_01 43:06

Until next time, everyone, God bless you. We love you.

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Take care of you.