SPEAKER_00 0:12

Welcome to the Trevor Buck Podcast, episode 66, and this episode is sponsored by Vancouver Plumbing. They've been serving the Southwest Washington for over 20 years, so give uh Brandon and Ruben a call. And Brandon's a good uh youper, so you'll get a kick out of that. And we're uh really excited to have Ned back on the show. What's going on?

SPEAKER_04 0:37

Oh, I'm just uh trying to fix rusty junk here.

SPEAKER_00 0:42

Right? What are you working on?

SPEAKER_04 0:45

Uh my old BMW car that all the brakes rusted.

SPEAKER_00 0:50

Nice. You got a beamer?

SPEAKER_04 0:53

Oh yeah.

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Uh M M3?

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No, it's an old X5.

SPEAKER_00 0:59

That's it.

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I got it from got it from South Carolina when I was doing uh or no, Georgia.

SPEAKER_00 1:05

Right.

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I was doing stormwork down there.

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Diesel?

SPEAKER_04 1:09

No.

SPEAKER_00 1:10

Oh, you gotta get the BMW diesel. Those things are mint.

SPEAKER_04 1:15

They didn't make a BMW diesel back when I bought this thing.

SPEAKER_00 1:18

Oh yeah.

unknown 1:20

No.

SPEAKER_00 1:21

No. And hey, I I do want to share this. Uh we're uh we're coming up to the anniversary of the whole uh Trevor Buck Company and podcast. And uh yeah, it's it's been a year and it and we've been kind of in a little bit of a slump. So I couldn't think of a better way to uh break out of the slump. Um you might have heard of a slump buster.

unknown 1:46

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 1:46

Yeah, so I thought Ned, Ned's the slump buster. He's gonna he's gonna pull us back into uh routine here.

SPEAKER_04 1:55

Yeah, well, you can get yourself out of that slump by doing by stopping doing boring things like working on your house, John.

SPEAKER_00 2:05

I know. We we might get into that later. That's that has been kicking my butt. But um you're in a better mood nowadays because it's summer up there in the UP.

SPEAKER_04 2:17

It is. Yeah. It's beautiful, right? There's lots of lots of bugs to swap at.

SPEAKER_00 2:23

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 2:25

Uh no, we've we've had a nice summer.

SPEAKER_00 2:28

That's good. Hey, have you seen any fireflies?

SPEAKER_04 2:32

You know what? I haven't. Right? You need any.

SPEAKER_00 2:36

You need to go look around when it gets dark out.

SPEAKER_04 2:40

I know, I'm usually it gets dark so late I'm usually in bed.

SPEAKER_00 2:45

I love it. I'm the same way. You gotta go to bed early and get up early.

SPEAKER_04 2:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:51

Right?

SPEAKER_04 2:52

Yeah. It's uh it's tough to stay up late anymore.

SPEAKER_00 2:56

Yep. Part of getting old. That's that's awesome. And uh we we've got big news to share on the podcast, and this is quite interesting. So you've uh since the last time we've talked, you've made a career change.

unknown 3:11

I have.

SPEAKER_00 3:12

So you sw you switched from being a wood ambassador to uh selling rubber. What's up with that?

SPEAKER_04 3:20

Yeah. Big career change.

SPEAKER_00 3:24

Right? How did that come about?

SPEAKER_04 3:28

Well, one day when I was working in the shop, I was waiting for I was waiting for parts for the j the truck I was working on.

SPEAKER_02 3:39

Yeah.

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So instead of being useless at the shop, I decided to go run a load of logs for my buddy.

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Right.

SPEAKER_04 3:48

He had his truck loaded for me. So I stopped for gas, and the guy that worked at Fine Line Tire thought I wasn't working anywhere, so he called me and said, Why don't you come work here?

SPEAKER_00 4:00

Right. And and when he called you and offered you to come work there, what what was the role or what was the pitch? What were you gonna be doing?

SPEAKER_04 4:09

Self tires.

SPEAKER_00 4:12

Okay, but but and and everybody knows you're a great salesman, and now that you hopefully you have a team behind you, because I'm still kind of waiting on that one by four uh tongue and groove cedar you sold me.

SPEAKER_04 4:30

World's best salesman, and never even showed up.

SPEAKER_00 4:33

I know you could still call me. Everybody was wanting it. You had orders in, you sold it, and then uh so what what what's the status of Rhombus Lumber? Because that that was a cool company.

SPEAKER_04 4:48

Yeah, well, it it continues on. Okay. Joe's still Joe's still thawing lumber. Right. I'm still uh I guess you can call me still half owner because I've never sold any of my share, right?

SPEAKER_00 5:06

Okay, but now when you switch to selling tires, are they round?

SPEAKER_04 5:13

Yes. The tires are round. We don't sell many Cooper tires. Ours are round.

SPEAKER_00 5:22

Oh, you have to fill me in because I know that was a message offline with Zeb, but what's up with Cooper tires? I didn't know nothing about tires.

SPEAKER_04 5:31

Oh, they're they're uh you can get a good set here and there, but they're really bad for uh belt separating and shaking when you go on the road.

SPEAKER_00 5:45

That's not perfect. Yeah. What is um what what's what's your preferred brand there at uh Fine Line?

SPEAKER_04 5:53

The sold tire.

SPEAKER_00 5:55

The what?

SPEAKER_04 5:56

The best tire, the best tire is the tire that is sold.

SPEAKER_00 6:00

Okay, and how many different brands are you selling?

SPEAKER_04 6:06

Uh I don't know. Probably we probably deal with I don't know, maybe ten ten different brands, and then then you get the people that want their specialty ones that you gotta find and try to find a uh supplier for them.

SPEAKER_00 6:25

Right. So is that based on uh on vehicle, on preference, on what they're doing, or what? Like how do you if I roll into your uh shop in my Nissan hardbody pickup truck, what kind of tires are you gonna sell me?

SPEAKER_04 6:42

Uh let's see. Well, are you running them all year round? Are you taking them off in the winter and putting winters on?

SPEAKER_00 6:49

No, one set of tires year round.

SPEAKER_04 6:52

One set of tires, then I'm gonna sell you. Being wealthy, I'm gonna sell you the uh Michelin cross climate.

SPEAKER_00 7:00

Nice. Those sound fancy. Are those run flat?

SPEAKER_04 7:05

No.

SPEAKER_00 7:05

Oh, okay. So I have to keep carrying a spare in the back of my trunk.

SPEAKER_04 7:10

Yeah, you probably better. For for when you're out cruising your logging jobs. Right, right.

SPEAKER_00 7:19

Okay, now now I see the the name of the company is Fine Line Tire and Service. So what kind of service do you provide?

SPEAKER_04 7:27

Uh anything.

SPEAKER_00 7:29

Anything?

SPEAKER_04 7:30

Anything that'll make the customer happy.

SPEAKER_00 7:32

Hmm. Need my gutters painted?

SPEAKER_04 7:35

Yeah. We'll do it. For a price.

SPEAKER_00 7:39

Uh no, but what what are you regularly doing there? Are you doing oil changes? Are you doing mufflers? Are you doing what what are you doing besides tires?

SPEAKER_04 7:46

Uh any any mechanical work you really.

SPEAKER_00 7:49

Brakes?

SPEAKER_04 7:50

Yeah, lots of brakes and suspension.

SPEAKER_00 7:53

Lift kits?

SPEAKER_04 7:54

And and alignments.

unknown 7:56

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 7:56

No lift kits.

SPEAKER_00 7:57

No lift kits.

SPEAKER_04 7:58

In the winter, in the winter when things get really slow, we'll do a lift kit for you.

SPEAKER_00 8:03

How about um the kids nowadays like to do this, uh, they they like to make their truck squat. How do we do that?

SPEAKER_03 8:12

My goodness.

SPEAKER_00 8:13

You gotta do big big tires in the front, small in the back, and then you gotta squat it.

SPEAKER_04 8:19

Uh these these kids are gonna drive me to drinking, John. I mean, just think about it. When we were young, like foolish things we did at least made a little bit of sense.

SPEAKER_01 8:32

Right, right.

SPEAKER_04 8:33

Like we put chrome wheels on it, right? Stick out a push out of out of the side of your truck. You know. Like they they honestly, like we've had we put uh wheels and tires on these kids' trucks.

SPEAKER_00 8:47

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 8:47

They can't even turn.

SPEAKER_00 8:49

Right.

SPEAKER_04 8:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 8:52

But they look cool.

SPEAKER_04 8:54

No, they don't.

SPEAKER_00 8:56

They kind of. And then you put the uh the LED lights in the wheel wells so you can really light them up at night.

SPEAKER_04 9:02

That's that's I don't know what you think is cool about that. I mean, the lights are cool. Right. You know. But the the wheels sticking way out, I cannot stand that luck.

SPEAKER_00 9:15

Yeah, it's can't stand it. It's different.

SPEAKER_04 9:19

Yeah. Kids are different nowadays.

SPEAKER_00 9:22

Yeah, they are. That's that's that is interesting. Huh, what else have you been up to?

SPEAKER_04 9:30

Uh so chasing cows, right?

SPEAKER_00 9:33

Yeah, tell me it tell me about that. How many cows do you have?

SPEAKER_04 9:38

We have uh two cows and a calf.

SPEAKER_02 9:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 9:45

We thought we were gonna have two calves this spring, but apparently one of the cows didn't take.

SPEAKER_01 9:51

Right.

SPEAKER_04 9:53

Um yeah, we only ended up with one calf. Yeah, and you say out of the fence and go play with the neighbor's dog.

SPEAKER_00 10:02

Right. Yeah, you mentioned they're super friendly cows, they just want to go play with the neighbor's dog, and the neighbors are a little concerned about your cows.

SPEAKER_04 10:11

Yeah, the neighbors get all worked about worked up about our cows playing with their dogs. I mean they should just go throw the ball for them, you know.

SPEAKER_00 10:21

Oh, that is awesome. That is a great story. So you got your fence you got your fence tuned up.

SPEAKER_04 10:28

Yeah. Yeah, and so far uh no cows have gotten loose today.

SPEAKER_00 10:34

Right. Well that that's a success. Right.

SPEAKER_04 10:37

We had to uh we had uh a lot of work to it yesterday.

SPEAKER_01 10:42

Right.

SPEAKER_04 10:43

It should have been done a long time ago, but yeah. Normally they're really good about um staying in even if the if the electric isn't working.

SPEAKER_01 10:53

Right.

SPEAKER_04 10:55

Yeah, they uh they just really like the neighbors' dogs and just kept running onto their house. That's funny.

SPEAKER_00 11:02

That's that's awesome. I like your cows.

SPEAKER_04 11:04

I know.

SPEAKER_00 11:05

Yeah, that's cool.

SPEAKER_04 11:06

I know.

SPEAKER_00 11:06

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 11:08

Things are cool. Yeah. You know, they they're super playful.

SPEAKER_00 11:12

Yep. That's awesome.

SPEAKER_04 11:14

Are they out there black Angus type?

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Or or Way Way Goo or what are they?

SPEAKER_04 11:23

One of them's uh uh Herper and we bred it with uh Speckled Park Bull. They're super cool looking. The guy the guy that has the bull, he went out to Montana and uh got a bunch of those from uh from a lady that was selling her hardware herd out there.

SPEAKER_01 11:52

Right.

SPEAKER_04 11:53

Yeah, they are neat looking.

SPEAKER_00 11:55

That's awesome. No, I like cats. That's cool.

SPEAKER_04 11:59

Like they have these he has these massive bulls and you can just go in the fence with them and they're cool as ever.

SPEAKER_00 12:07

That's awesome.

SPEAKER_04 12:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:09

Very cool. Are you still uh are you still taking saunas up there during the summer, or is that just a winter thing?

SPEAKER_04 12:17

No, pretty much every night still. Still. There was a couple of those 95 degree days where we didn't didn't take uh sauna, but and your uh your cold plunge is probably a little bit warmer now. Yeah, right. Yeah, my cold plunge was up to 80 degrees. Yeah, it wasn't uh exactly cooling me off much anymore.

SPEAKER_00 12:42

Right. Hey, and you guys are uh you guys are experiencing some uh some wildfire smoke up there.

SPEAKER_04 12:48

Yeah, yeah, it's been it's been thick smoke up here. Right? Smoke and ash. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:56

So uh I I've seen that there's some people trying to make uh Canada give them um reparations. They're trying to get money from them.

SPEAKER_04 13:07

Well a lot of a lot of these fires are actually in Minnesota or right there on the border of the boundary waters.

SPEAKER_00 13:14

Okay. And they didn't know how to manage their forests.

SPEAKER_04 13:18

Yeah, well, so much of that stuff is just totally inaccessible. It's it's impossible to put a fire out in it.

SPEAKER_00 13:25

Oh, so you're giving them a green green light that it's fine.

SPEAKER_04 13:28

Oh yeah, it's nature, man.

SPEAKER_00 13:30

Cool.

SPEAKER_04 13:32

All it is is nature. Right. Nature doing its job.

SPEAKER_00 13:36

No, is it pretty is it pretty thick? The smoke?

SPEAKER_04 13:40

Yeah, it's uh it's kind of thinned out a little bit today, but I haven't like um it's it's funny because all the smokers are the ones struggling with this work.

SPEAKER_00 13:55

You gotta tell us tell us about that. How does that work? The people that smoke, they're they hate the the air quality the most.

SPEAKER_04 14:03

Yeah. Yeah, so my wife uh my wife the other night the window is closed, yeah, and I don't have an air conditioning because I'm a tight wide Finlander.

SPEAKER_01 14:15

Right.

SPEAKER_04 14:16

So it was hot in the house, so I opened the windows and she comes in from uh having a cigarette and complains about the smoke in the house.

SPEAKER_00 14:30

Well, hey, you gotta get a hold of Rogers. You gotta get Rogers heating, come put in a mini-split for you.

SPEAKER_04 14:37

Did you you didn't hear the part about me being a tightwide Finlander?

SPEAKER_00 14:41

Yeah, but did it did you hear his story? Sometimes he uh he's able to have uh uh rescue units that just need a little repair, and you get them for the bottom dollar.

SPEAKER_04 14:53

Oh, really?

SPEAKER_00 14:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 14:55

Oh no kidding.

SPEAKER_00 14:56

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_04 14:57

No, I I really should, but you use them so few times a year up here that it's pretty mild. Yeah, I mean hard to justify it.

SPEAKER_00 15:07

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 15:08

Yep when you have rusty vehicles that need to be fixed instead.

SPEAKER_00 15:13

So when you uh when you fix up the beam or what is that you're gonna be your uh daily runner, or what do you what do you plan on doing with that?

SPEAKER_04 15:21

This is my winter car.

SPEAKER_00 15:23

Oh, your winter car?

SPEAKER_04 15:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:26

Nice.

SPEAKER_04 15:27

Yeah. Okay, so it broke down on it broke down on me a few years ago, and I had to uh pull my Toyota out of the snowbank.

SPEAKER_01 15:36

Right.

SPEAKER_04 15:38

And that thing's starting to rot out now.

SPEAKER_00 15:41

So hey, do um do a lot of people still have like a winter car up there?

SPEAKER_04 15:47

Not really.

SPEAKER_00 15:48

Not that's a thing of the past. Newer cars now with just all aluminum and blah blah blah and plastic, they don't really rust out like the old ones used to.

SPEAKER_04 16:01

Oh, they still rot out as anything. Oh yeah. Well, I just I just want to put this Toyota away because they're like it's a 95. It's almost not replaceable anymore. I'd rather drive a brand new Um vehicle in the winter that is uh you know, they're still replaceable.

SPEAKER_01 16:23

Right, right.

SPEAKER_04 16:25

Or my that Toyota. Good luck finding I mean you can find a few of them out there, but shoot, they're going for over ten grand now.

SPEAKER_00 16:35

Right. What about that truck that uh out here that Andy Mack had for you?

SPEAKER_04 16:40

He still hasn't delivered it. I'm pretty disappointed in him.

SPEAKER_00 16:44

I thought you were coming out here to get it.

SPEAKER_04 16:48

Uh that's I I was.

SPEAKER_00 16:52

You would? Oh, okay, but he still has it waiting for you?

SPEAKER_04 16:58

I don't know. He probably sold it two years ago.

SPEAKER_00 17:02

We gotta follow up on this and see where your truck is.

SPEAKER_04 17:06

Right.

SPEAKER_00 17:07

That's awesome.

SPEAKER_04 17:08

Think he still has it?

SPEAKER_00 17:10

I have no idea. Yeah, I have I have no idea. He he hasn't been real uh talkative lately. I think his feelings got hurt when uh there was some plumber smack talk going around and he he got offended. So hopefully he comes back around. He was all playful fun.

SPEAKER_04 17:31

He made him a little angry with calling him an average plumber, huh?

SPEAKER_00 17:39

I never, because I don't know anything about plumbing, so it wasn't from me.

SPEAKER_04 17:48

He's pretty average.

SPEAKER_00 17:49

That is so awesome. I love it.

SPEAKER_04 17:53

Even ask his boy Henry, he'll tell you.

SPEAKER_00 17:56

Okay, okay. Oh, that is awesome.

SPEAKER_04 17:59

So hey, hey, he'll tell you all about Abby's operation.

SPEAKER_00 18:03

Okay, that's great. I need a little insight. So if Henry's out there listening, drop us some uh some info. That would be great. Yeah. So what are your um are you Monday through Friday there at Fine Line or what's your schedule like?

SPEAKER_04 18:17

Uh yeah, I work today.

SPEAKER_00 18:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 18:21

Um we're just sometimes we're open for two and a half hours on a Saturday. Okay. Sometimes we're not.

SPEAKER_00 18:28

Okay. Well, I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 18:29

I think we're gonna just start the on Saturday.

SPEAKER_00 18:33

Right. And you guys just had a big huge sale.

SPEAKER_04 18:36

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:37

That thing was going off.

SPEAKER_04 18:39

Yeah, that was quite the experience.

SPEAKER_00 18:42

I was gonna come up to uh see it to get my face painted and they canceled it. I was like, what's up with that?

SPEAKER_04 18:52

Yeah, you got ripped off. I did.

SPEAKER_00 18:55

Good thing you the air quality.

SPEAKER_04 18:58

You didn't buy yourself a ticket.

SPEAKER_00 18:59

I know. I was hoping to get one of those uh little balloon animals and my face painted and look at some tires, but like they shut it out.

SPEAKER_04 19:11

Oh, look at that.

SPEAKER_00 19:12

What's going on?

SPEAKER_04 19:13

My wife just my wife just delivered pizza out to me. Nice. What a sweetheart.

SPEAKER_00 19:21

She is. Did she home make it herself?

SPEAKER_04 19:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:25

That's amazing.

SPEAKER_04 19:27

She went she went to Dollar General and got some Jack's pizza. Put some put some mushrooms on it for me.

SPEAKER_00 19:38

That is awesome. Good deal. So how long are you gonna keep working on the beamer tonight?

SPEAKER_04 19:45

Well, I got three of the brakes. Um three of them where the wheel should turn now.

SPEAKER_02 19:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 19:55

I just have to go beat some rust out of one more.

SPEAKER_00 20:00

And are you are you replacing the brakes?

SPEAKER_04 20:03

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 20:04

Parts or super spendy are there.

SPEAKER_04 20:07

I'm not replacing them. I'm not replacing them right here. I'm trying to get it so I can roll it out of the dirt.

SPEAKER_00 20:17

So where are you gonna roll it to?

SPEAKER_04 20:21

Uh, up on my garage flap.

SPEAKER_00 20:23

Right.

SPEAKER_04 20:25

I gotta I gotta get it up there so I have a good surface to work on it.

SPEAKER_00 20:30

Oh, that's awesome.

SPEAKER_04 20:32

Um, yeah, I've been this thing's been sitting here for like two years.

SPEAKER_01 20:36

Right.

SPEAKER_04 20:38

And it's I don't know. I was kicking around. I was gonna scrap it.

SPEAKER_02 20:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 20:45

But then my boy has that uh other truck that Andy just fleeced me on.

SPEAKER_02 20:51

Right.

SPEAKER_04 20:52

Um with that with that 460 in it.

SPEAKER_02 20:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 20:58

He's been driving that.

SPEAKER_00 20:59

Right.

SPEAKER_04 21:00

And he can't afford to put gas in it anymore.

SPEAKER_00 21:02

Well, yeah, not with a 460.

SPEAKER_04 21:05

Right.

SPEAKER_00 21:06

Right.

SPEAKER_04 21:07

Yeah, so you would think Andy would give me a little discount because it had a 460 in it.

SPEAKER_00 21:13

Exactly. Hey, I want to ask you this. Are are EVs very popular up there?

SPEAKER_04 21:20

Uh, you see a few of them. There's not many. I don't know that for fact, but Oh, you're uh the batteries die so fast in the extreme cold.

SPEAKER_01 21:36

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 21:37

I would love to have one of those.

SPEAKER_01 21:39

Right.

SPEAKER_04 21:40

But you just you can't uh you can't count on 'em.

SPEAKER_00 21:44

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 21:45

Especially in the winter.

SPEAKER_00 21:46

Okay, I d I didn't know that.

SPEAKER_04 21:48

Yeah, they're they have uh like you can't you can't get many miles out of 'em.

SPEAKER_00 21:57

Really?

SPEAKER_04 21:58

In the cold, no.

SPEAKER_00 22:00

That's interesting.

SPEAKER_04 22:00

No, well just think about when you bring your phone out and uh cold how fast the battery dies.

SPEAKER_00 22:06

I know. That's I know that that's a fact. But I thought maybe they would have them insulated or something because there's a lot of Teslas in Norway. Norway gets cold, I think. Yeah. Maybe not. I don't know. Never been there.

SPEAKER_04 22:22

Oh, I'm sure they do. Right.

SPEAKER_00 22:29

I will. Oh, that is awesome.

SPEAKER_04 22:36

No, those cars are so cool, though.

SPEAKER_00 22:39

I think they're super cool.

SPEAKER_04 22:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 22:43

I would have one.

SPEAKER_00 22:44

You know, there's they had there's a lot of them out there for those that are listening. I live uh in Washington State on the west coast of the United States, but um, and I work in the electrical industry, but we probably add, I don't know, three, four circuits a week for people's homes that have just got electric cars. I mean, they're they're super popular, yeah. And now the utilities are trying to figure it out because uh it's a it's a huge load. It's like a 50, 60 amp continuous load. So they're trying to figure out what they're gonna do. And eventually, I think what's gonna happen. I don't know, do you guys have um different uh rates up there for time of day of use? For your electrical. You do already?

SPEAKER_04 23:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:32

Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_04 23:33

So our lower our low rate is probably the same as your high rate.

SPEAKER_00 23:38

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 23:40

Our power is really expensive up here.

SPEAKER_00 23:42

Okay. So then what what is the time? What's the um when does it switch to the higher rate? Is there a certain time of day?

SPEAKER_04 23:51

Uh I think it goes to after 11 p.m.

SPEAKER_02 23:54

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 23:56

Okay. I don't I don't think it matters on your on a regular household.

SPEAKER_02 24:01

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 24:02

But like uh, you know, like a business that uses a lot of power.

SPEAKER_02 24:07

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 24:08

They they uh take advantage of that.

SPEAKER_00 24:12

Yep, absolutely. Yeah, I know on the commercial um sector it it's huge, but I think it's coming to residential too. I went to a class this week and the the instructor was from Colorado and he said his his off peak or before two p.m. he uh he pays nine cents a kilowatt hour. And then he says from two to seven p.m. it goes up to like 33 cents a kilowatt hour.

SPEAKER_04 24:41

Really? I just fluctuate during the day.

SPEAKER_00 24:44

From from two to seven, that's their their high peak or whatever. So then they're coming up with technology and stuff, so then obviously you'd want to start charging your car after seven or whatever. Turn your water heater off, turn your whatever. Don't run your sauna drain two to seven, wait till eight, you know.

SPEAKER_04 25:04

Or tell me get a natural gas sauna stove from torch sauna stove.

SPEAKER_00 25:11

Way to shout out. I love it. Is that what you've got?

SPEAKER_04 25:14

Yeah, that's what I've got.

SPEAKER_00 25:16

Okay, and where are they from?

SPEAKER_04 25:18

Uh they they make them in Dollar Bay. Dollar Bay, Michigan.

SPEAKER_00 25:24

Shout them out again, and uh, if you know anybody over there, tell them to come on the pod and talk about them.

SPEAKER_04 25:29

Oh yeah, I should tell her. You should name I can't I can't remember the kid's name. Yeah, I got it stored in my phone.

SPEAKER_00 25:37

That that'd be awesome. Yeah, no, just say, hey, come come on, tell us, because we have a lot of people that uh enjoy saunas out here, and we've got the uh the Maverick wood-fired one that's portable tent type. We got the Finlandia that is mostly uh I think they're they're all electric now. But uh I'm I'm a proponent of natural gas. I I like it.

SPEAKER_04 25:59

Yeah, it's clean.

SPEAKER_00 26:01

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 26:02

Clean and efficient.

SPEAKER_00 26:04

Yep, I agree.

SPEAKER_04 26:05

Um no, I have to get a hold of that kid.

SPEAKER_00 26:09

You should.

SPEAKER_04 26:10

I've had to buy a few parts from him, right? But it was totally my fault. Did I tell you about it?

SPEAKER_00 26:18

No, tell me.

SPEAKER_04 26:20

Oh, so you have to uh like I spray foam my sauna, yeah, so it's super airtight. Well you you have to uh you have to allow for air, you know, for the fire, the oxygen that the fire is burning.

SPEAKER_01 26:40

Right.

SPEAKER_04 26:40

You know, you have to you have to replace it. So it uh I didn't I didn't do that and it backdrafted well it always did fine until I put an exhaust fan in my changing room.

SPEAKER_02 26:54

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 26:55

Then then it then it uh sucked a little bit too much oxygen out of the out of there and uh it backdrafted my sauna stove and yeah. There's a um what's it called, a thermal uh protector.

SPEAKER_02 27:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 27:13

When the fire backdrafts, it shuts it right down.

SPEAKER_02 27:16

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 27:17

And I had to do that a couple times because then one day I just we just leave the window open all the time.

SPEAKER_02 27:24

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 27:25

And one day my daughter shut the window. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 27:32

Right.

SPEAKER_04 27:34

So but but yeah, the stove works awesome.

SPEAKER_00 27:38

That's cool.

SPEAKER_04 27:38

Everything that happened to it was my fault.

SPEAKER_00 27:40

Right.

SPEAKER_04 27:41

It says right in the instructions what to do.

SPEAKER_01 27:44

Right.

SPEAKER_04 27:46

But I don't read instructions. Don't take well to a to instructions, so I ended up paying the price.

SPEAKER_00 27:57

Yep. No, that's awesome.

unknown 28:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:01

Cool. Okay, well, hey, closing this up, I do want to ask um, why should people that live in the UP come visit you at Fine Line Tires and Service? Give us your pitch.

SPEAKER_04 28:16

Well, because our prices are so low, it's almost criminal.

SPEAKER_00 28:22

Okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 28:25

No, no, we we offer the best service.

SPEAKER_01 28:29

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 28:30

Hands down. Best service. That's what we sell.

SPEAKER_00 28:33

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 28:34

And and our prices are are the best too.

SPEAKER_00 28:38

Okay. Well, I'm gonna um put the link to Fine Line Tires and Service in the show notes. And this has been very awesome to uh catch up. I feel like I'm gonna come out of the um the slump here. Hopefully, we get a few more lined up, and uh I I will visit you with you here shortly, but this episode was edited and produced by Daisy Media. Thank you. Good night.