Ep 49 - Cloudrig Heavy Civil Software - LJS Contracting - Terra Technics

Levi and Lucas join the pod to reminisce about North Carolina beach life , living in a van , surf trips and more . 

Lucas with LJS Contracting is building Trevor Buck Homes & Custom Sauna's 

Levi is fresh back from his trip to Con Expo in Vegas. 

Surprise guest Peter Tapio drops in to say hello . 

Levi Erkstam 910-632-3543

https://www.instagram.com/ljs_contracting/ 

https://www.cloudrigsoftware.com/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/levi-erkstam-13b091258/ 

https://www.tbhdrill.com/ 

https://www.linkedin.com/in/peter-tapio-05362130/

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SPEAKER_04 0:13

Welcome to the Trevor Buck Podcast, episode 49, and this show is sponsored by LJS, the Custom Home Builder, and Custom Saunas.

SPEAKER_03 0:22

I will never financially recover from it.

SPEAKER_04 0:24

Welcome, Lucas. He's been on before, but we have a new guest we're super stoked about, all the way from North Carolina. Levi, welcome.

SPEAKER_05 0:32

What's going on, guys? Hi, Levi. Hey, Lucas.

SPEAKER_04 0:34

Okay, so hey, Levi, so Lucas has already told the story, but you grew up in North Carolina. Yeah. Okay. And where do you live there?

SPEAKER_05 0:41

Wilmington, North Carolina. Okay. That's where I grew up.

SPEAKER_04 0:44

And growing up, what's it like growing up? What's it? What's it like growing up in North Carolina?

SPEAKER_05 0:50

Um it was originally like a small, small community. Um, grew a lot over the last couple years, but growing up there, big skate skateboard and surfing community. Okay, yep. Just did that every day. Super cool. Um, shout out got into hockey a little bit later. I'm a little bit late to the party. As far as hockey. I know, but like what but you're really good. So what's the hockey scene like there in North Carolina? Um, hockey there is every Friday and Saturday night, it's public pickup. How far away is the rink? Five minutes from where I live now. It's beautiful. Oh, really? Oh yeah. And do you guys do you guys do saunas out there? I live in my grandma's basement. Oh yeah, that's right. Do you guys do saunas in North Carolina? Oh yeah. Okay. I'm a big sauna guy pretty much every night. Right? You wear shorts? Sauna shorts?

SPEAKER_03 1:38

One time we sauned and uh jumped into Atlantic.

SPEAKER_04 1:43

Okay, so how did how did you guys meet up or hook up? Or you guys done some surfing?

SPEAKER_03 1:48

I don't know if you want to tell us, right?

SPEAKER_04 1:50

Yeah. Okay, no, we'll save it now. Family show. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:53

I think uh like we would go on trips there quite a bit just as young kids. Yep. And probably like in 2018 when we we watched that there's that uh those college teams or I knew his older brother Max and he he would come out here on trips and we kinda hung out and whatever. Anyway, but then as Levi got older, he was kind of hanging out out there. But I would say the first trip that we like hung out was during COVID when we I came out there by myself and was sleeping in the hammock for a bit and then.

SPEAKER_05 2:22

Yeah, and I was at Max's um beach house. So then uh would you say like that's right, because I remember we were we went down to the beach together, remember the first time we met, and then yeah.

SPEAKER_03 2:36

Anyway, and then uh that trip I was kind of just like I wasn't staying at the house, I wasn't with Max and Shane, who lived at the house, and Levi was working at Smithfields and also like Max and Shane were doing their own thing. So we were kind of outcasts.

SPEAKER_04 2:52

You were outside, you weren't locals.

SPEAKER_05 2:53

Shout out to Smithfields, he's not actually sponsored of this pod. Oh, for sure. So you're kind of giving it away.

SPEAKER_03 2:57

He was for sure local, but I'm saying, like, as far as uh who who I was hanging out with, like, okay, well, Max and Shane are doing their thing, and then Levi was be off work at weird hours, so we just ended up hanging out and you know just oh yeah. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 3:14

Have you done some surfing out here on the West Coast? Okay. I mean, I was I lived here for three years. Okay, okay, that's awesome. And I've seen a couple videos. You guys got into some big ones out in Outer Banks. Yeah. That's a story, huh?

SPEAKER_05 3:26

We're insane. They're pretty big. We definitely didn't go out there and catch one wave.

SPEAKER_03 3:32

We got that's funny. We uh we went to Outer Banks that day, went to the lighthouse, is like the popular spot. Okay. It was maybe eight feet there, yeah, eight foot faces, and we were both like, dude, that was that was super fun. Maybe I don't know, you catch a couple that day. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was super drifty, so it's hard to stay in there. So then we rolled to uh uh Duck's donuts, loaded up on donuts for some reason, like way too much. As you do, and then pulled up, we saw just people parked on the side of the road, just uh stopped the van, walked over there. I didn't really know any surfers at this time, but Lima is like, dude, that's Jeffrey O'Neill. That's Bret Barley's cameraman or whatever. And I'm like, like, I didn't know.

SPEAKER_05 4:14

I was like, roll up, just starstruck. Yeah, it's all the pros are all the like the local pro guys. Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_03 4:22

Yep, yeah, that's awesome. And so like they found this they they found a spot that was manageable. And we're looking out there like, holy crap, that's huge. And then the guys are coming in, and one guy, I don't even know who it was, he's just like, yeah, uh paddle out right there, that's the best spot. You gotta rip.

SPEAKER_05 4:38

Yeah, it was a camera cameraman guy for all these pro surfers he was telling us.

SPEAKER_03 4:42

Yeah, and like if we wouldn't have had that spot, I wouldn't have got out for sure. Like, because we you can't really tell, right?

SPEAKER_05 4:47

Sure, sure. Yeah, I know. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 4:49

Anyway, so then we get out there, and I had my GoPro on and like took a bunch to the head and whatever. But um ended up getting out there, and then we'd just paddle and like ah, we'll get the next one. Because you'd be staring like way down. And I think I maybe went for it on like a so it was like probably 15-foot sets. Yeah, it's like that was the max height that I saw out there, and I took off on like a 12-footer and just went straight.

SPEAKER_05 5:17

Like, yeah, we're good. I did the same thing. It was it was just a big pride hit as soon as we showed up. For me, there's like all these pro guys, they're like telling us where to paddle out any other day. If there's no one on the beach, I'm not paddling out. I'm like, oh, yeah, no paddle. We got that.

SPEAKER_03 5:35

But then we're all full on donuts, you know. It's like it's kind of like, dang, why'd we do that?

SPEAKER_04 5:39

Right. Uh that's great. Good story. Appreciate it.

SPEAKER_03 5:42

What other stories you guys got?

SPEAKER_05 5:44

We have a lot of Outer Banks trips.

SPEAKER_03 5:46

Yeah, we'd go up there quite a bit. So I remember I think I told you that one of the times I lived in a van for a bit. Yeah, of course. And then he would it would kind of like one of us would drive up through the night, get there around three in the morning, then just both sleep and wake up at whatever time and go surfing.

SPEAKER_04 6:01

So, how far is Outer Banks from Wilmington? It's about four hours.

SPEAKER_06 6:05

Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_04 6:06

Is that uh where's uh Hatteras?

SPEAKER_05 6:08

Cape Hatteras. Cape Hatteras is like you go, so you drive in through the north, like the middle of Outer Banks, yeah, and then you go south like probably an hour. Okay, because I've I've been to Hatteras.

SPEAKER_04 6:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 6:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 6:20

I did some kite surfing on the one side and some surfing on the other side. Oh, that's right. That's right.

SPEAKER_03 6:24

So I got up from that surf shop, I got a shirt that has kite surfing spots. Yeah. They don't have the surfing spots, but it's big out there. The uh one story I remember uh actually I'm drawing a blank now. Oh, was it that guy that uh when we went up there with well my my wife at the time and some other girls, and he pulled up with the same van as we had, but it was way cleaner. And I was like I was like, hey, you want to trade vans? And Levi opens up the door and says, Yeah, ours comes with girls.

SPEAKER_04 7:01

Oh that's that's awesome. Yeah. So hey Lucas, you're building a house. Tell us about LGS contract in your house building.

SPEAKER_03 7:08

Uh yeah. How's that going? Uh good. It was nice and wet today. Right. So um I'm hoping to pour concrete and pour the basement slab uh this Friday. Right. So tomorrow will be a little bit of a push, get it inspected, and then uh go for it.

SPEAKER_04 7:24

And and we're doing uh LGS Trevor Buck custom built saunas.

SPEAKER_03 7:27

Oh yeah, that's coming. Right, that's coming. That's gonna be huge. I just talked with uh uh Joe. Right. We'll call him Joe. Okay, perfect. And uh he said he's waiting on his quarterly bonus. He wants to go on sauna.

SPEAKER_04 7:41

Okay. And I want to ask Levi, Levi, you were you seen some Trevor Buck fans last weekend in Vegas. Oh boy. And you were at Con Expo.

SPEAKER_05 7:49

Tell us about it. This is great. This is great. I think I met one of the greatest guys I've ever met through Trevor Buck. Like Peter Tapio? Peter Tapio. Shout out Peter Tapio. Just an absolute savage. Yeah, he pulls up and he's like Trevor Buck? Okay, then he picked the picture. He just looked at you and said that. Yeah, yeah. Let me pick the picture. I'm at Con Expo, right? We have a booth there, and I'm talking to customers all day. And um we have like there's like a team of four of us, right? They have no idea who Trevor Buck is or who Peter Tapio is. Oh, oh, what'd you do? We're back.

SPEAKER_00 8:30

Did I hit this?

SPEAKER_04 8:31

Yeah, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, hey, hey! Okay, don't do that. Yeah, just okay. Sorry we'll have to cut that out, but we have an electrical connection here. LJS is uh kick kicking it. Okay, we're trying to fix our wiring here. Okay. Okay. We're still we're still live, we're recording, we might have to edit the oh boy.

SPEAKER_05 9:20

Sorry. We actually can't hear you. Oh, we're it keeps caught in and out. Let's go try maybe we can try that one. Down the middle. That's solid. Oh, that's the connection. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 9:36

We'll have to edit that out. We have technical difficulties here, but sorry. Anyways, Levi, you were uh talking about it. Talking to customers all day.

SPEAKER_05 9:44

Yep. Yeah, okay, yeah, talking to customers all day. Um and then yeah, you're kind of in when you go to one of these shows as a sponsor, you're kind of in like this um professional professional mood. Right. Like it's hard to get out of it. Right. And you're usually pretty tired. Sure, yes. So it's like 4 p.m., it's rolling out, things are starting to get dead. All of we're all chilling around the booth, and here comes Peter Tapio. Trevor Buck! I'm like, this must be the guy. And yeah, he comes up and he's just wow, man, this is great. You know, I didn't, you know, he's talking about how John set me and him up, and and he just started talking. We talked for probably two hours. He walked with us all the way to the restaurant. The guys that I'm working with are just like, What who is this guy? Let's jump over by yeah, it's it was awesome.

SPEAKER_04 10:38

Okay, so tell what were you there representing? I this is I'm very interested.

SPEAKER_05 10:42

Yeah, representing CloudRig software, okay. Heavy civil software.

SPEAKER_04 10:46

Okay, when you say heavy civil, what is what does that mean and who is the target audience?

SPEAKER_05 10:51

Because I know you're out here visiting some contractors. Okay. So we we only work with heavy civil guys. Okay. That's it. We we c we made it um yeah, strictly for heavy civil. We've seen a problem with uh, you know, accurate reporting and estimating, and that's yeah, that's what we aim to solve. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 11:08

So to tell us uh for those that don't know, a a heavy civil contractor is who? Do they do subdivisions?

SPEAKER_05 11:13

So yeah, they do they do um they're the first dirt work. There's this underground dirt work, underground dirt work, laying pipe, okay. So all the way up to asphalt and concrete. Okay. Um, road builders, bridge builders, anyone, anyone like that. Okay, and how long has uh CloudRig been around? CloudRig has been around for about four years now. Um they yeah, we've really been we've really been rolling like the last two years, I'd say. Our first customer is about three years ago.

SPEAKER_04 11:39

And is this uh a web-based uh app? Is it a tablet-based app?

SPEAKER_05 11:43

Mobile? It's both, it's web-based. Okay. Um, but we have apps that you download on the tablet for your for a format.

SPEAKER_04 11:49

And you're doing uh looks like you're doing estimating bidding and project management with it.

SPEAKER_05 11:54

Yeah, so it's a full walkthrough platform for heavy civils. It's like a one-stop shop kind of deal. Um, the only thing we're not is accounting. Okay. And we connect to accounting, we make your accounting system better because we give you accurate reports that feed into that. That's kind of a big deal. Yeah, I mean it's like I don't know if you've heard of AI, but we use it. Okay, okay. Whoa. Yeah, buzzword, right?

SPEAKER_04 12:18

That's that's great. No, and I think competition. I I I did see on your website, because this is important, because I know a lot of uh contractors out here are using this uh platform called Vista. And it looks like you you import into Vista plus other a lot of the other big contracts.

SPEAKER_05 12:31

We are accounting the best out-of-the-box integration with Vista. We've had tons of contractors switch over because their Vista integration currently is sucks with their current field reporting system. Yep, and that's what's great about us. Wow. Awesome.

SPEAKER_04 12:44

Lucas, have you checked out CloudRig? Well, take it easy. We like Vista. Oh, we like Vista. We're good at connecting with Lucas. Have you thought about Cloud Rig for your business? Because you're into heavy stuff for sure.

SPEAKER_03 12:55

Right. Uh I have I've spent so much hours trying to manage all these jobs. Right. But I'm like, I mean, if I don't do something, it's gone backwards.

SPEAKER_04 13:04

Right now, how do you track Cade and his productions? Uh you mean Jadakus?

SPEAKER_03 13:09

Yeah, Jadakus. Uh it's a trust-based system. You heard uh iOS messaging. Actually, I don't even know. He just texts uh the accountant how many hours he got. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 13:21

I do actually want to shout out Jacadegus yesterday. It's Jadakiss, bro. I'm a big supporter of the pod. I that's I feel really bad about that. Um Jacquitagus. What is it? Are you serious? Yeah. Uh yeah. It's Jadakist. Yeah. It's a Jade. Right, that's what I said. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I seen him at ball last yesterday at the school. Basketball? Balling out. And I was like, shout out to Jade Kiss. Okay. Yeah. Do you play some ball, Levi? No, I've been I've been known to be a big ball. Oh, okay. No, no, not really. I mean, I'm like five four, so yeah.

SPEAKER_03 14:05

For the listeners, he's he's not that good. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 14:07

Dude, come on.

SPEAKER_03 14:08

Uh he ripped surfing though. Better, I mean, than surfing and hockey.

SPEAKER_04 14:12

You know what? Uh I used to go, well, I mean, in another life, but a lot of the pros are small, short, short little guys. Of surfers. Yeah. Yeah. I mean.

SPEAKER_05 14:21

Yeah. When you see me roll my tiny butt inside here, you're like, oh, he's a server. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_04 14:30

Oh, shoot.

SPEAKER_03 14:31

So how many times have you gotten barreled? Too many to count here. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 14:37

Maybe ask the local boys you go up with. Okay, and on uh out there, are you uh you're you're probably in a thinner wetsuit out there. Yeah, I mean uh I would say seven months out of the year, I'm not wearing a wetsuit.

SPEAKER_04 14:53

Oh, okay. That's that's perfect.

SPEAKER_05 14:54

Oh here, we're we're four, three, five, four guys. I meant brutal. Yeah, it's brutal. But do what you gotta do. Exactly.

SPEAKER_04 15:01

Yep. Are you playing any hockey while you're out here?

SPEAKER_05 15:04

Yeah, I'm playing tomorrow night at the Coliseum. Shout out if anyone wants to pull up. Nice, you know, fans. And Friday, Friday early, Friday, early shift. Okay. I'll be out there. Awesome.

SPEAKER_03 15:14

That's really the shout out Stefan Lynchy. Right.

SPEAKER_05 15:17

Oh, shout out Jason Eck.

SPEAKER_03 15:19

Oh, we're nice. Yeah, that's cool. I wanted to remember that. Oh, this is awesome.

SPEAKER_04 15:23

Um, so do you have a territory? So you're out here, you were at Vegas, now you're in Washington. So do you have a territory you're calling on?

SPEAKER_05 15:31

Um, yeah, I mean, like, anyone that's ready for me, I'm ready to go to them. Okay. Like, I'm we demoed a guy this morning from Dominican Dominican Republic. Okay. It's going to the next steps. We'll see what happens there. But that's like the most far we've been. Sure. Um, it's alright. I just didn't know if you had a territory within the US. You yourself. Personally, yeah. No, we have me and one other guy, other sales guy. Okay. Like we're just we're full bore ahead. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 15:58

Well, hopefully your boss hears us because you're doing good coming on the turnlight podcast. It gets some lists. This is great.

SPEAKER_05 16:04

I don't know if I'm gonna be able to handle all the heat from this podcast.

SPEAKER_04 16:07

You know, yeah. Don't worry. You get a lot of fan mail. Did you make some good contacts? Contacts at Expo?

SPEAKER_05 16:15

Con Expo was better than we could have imagined, honestly. Like it was serious? Yeah, it was it went really good for us. Um, I think there's a big need for us right now. Um I think there's just a yeah, a big, big kind of gap. And uh we're noticing it talking to guys, and when guys are there, they're trying to learn and improve their company, so they're they're in the right mindset. And uh yeah, we just pulled them into the booth and talked about their company. And if it was a right fit, then we yeah, booked a demo with them.

SPEAKER_04 16:43

Did uh did you stroll around? Did you go look at any of the stuff, or were you but in your booth mostly?

SPEAKER_05 16:47

I was in the booth for the most part, but I tr I strolled around everything for the yeah.

SPEAKER_04 16:52

There was some uh pretty neat stuff there. Peter Peter kept me up to date. Shout out Peter Tappio. Yeah, he uh he hit up the the 4K boys too at 4K equipment.

SPEAKER_03 17:02

So yeah, they put on a show. Right. Um let's talk pricing. How much is your uh system cost for uh I don't know, mid-level. Say say there's a dirt work company that has I don't know ten to fifteen guys total.

SPEAKER_05 17:16

Ten to fifteen guys. Um don't quote me on this, but I believe it's around twelve grand a year.

SPEAKER_03 17:22

Oh gosh, I don't know. Like six hundred billion dollars.

SPEAKER_05 17:25

No, so that's that that sounds really reasonable. 12 grand a year? It is we will be every competitor in the city. So it's based on user licenses? Nope. Based on total employee company. So we don't so we don't have to here's my surprise.

SPEAKER_03 17:37

Here he is. Here he is. Come sit down.

SPEAKER_04 17:42

Oh, this is awesome. This is great. This is great. We got Levi bringing us in a guest here. Oh, that's perfect. No way. Speaking of that, we were just talking about that. We were just talking about Peter. Get over here. Come on. Sit there next to Levi.

SPEAKER_03 18:02

Not on the cords.

SPEAKER_04 18:03

Welcome to back to the Trevor Buck podcast. I think you're giving Lucas a run for his money. This is his third appearance, and this will be your third appearance. Welcome, Peter Tappio. Head to head. Hey, nice to meet you guys. Yeah. So Levi said you guys had a short little conversation in Vegas, but he said it was only like two or three minutes, so he wanted to bring you back here today so you guys could finish what you were talking about.

SPEAKER_01 18:28

We started so many brush fires in Las Vegas. We shut the lights down in one of those expos.

SPEAKER_04 18:35

Oh, did you did you even uh uh learn about uh CloudReg, his software company?

SPEAKER_01 18:41

Well, we we learned a lot. Okay. There was there was a um there was uh just the that was kind of the AI section of the dirt world. Okay. And and we we got to see how you even poach a potential uh n client from another booth.

SPEAKER_04 19:06

They're a new company. We don't poach yet.

SPEAKER_05 19:08

Oh no poaching. Easy on the poach work. Oh no, no, no, no, no. It's not true. It's not true. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_01 19:17

But no, we we we did uh it was very informative. We we actually got to talk biz. Yeah and I got to know Levi. Yes. And and that was cool and JP and and kind of the chance to pick behind the curtain.

SPEAKER_04 19:32

And Peter, you're would you say your industry is heavy civil or you're kind of a specialty?

SPEAKER_01 19:36

Yeah, there was a the platinum lot was the underground. Okay. So, but yeah, there was a whole dedicated area of like business over in the platinum lot, and and then they grouped like businesses with like businesses to a degree.

SPEAKER_04 19:52

So for TerraTechnics, can you use CloudRig in your business?

SPEAKER_01 19:56

Well, we we we talked about uh a a particular project, but I mean there is so much potential in this space that these guys are in. Right. It's huge. Right. It's huge. That's awesome.

SPEAKER_05 20:07

Yeah, we discussed it and we figured Peter wouldn't be a good fit for us um as far as and I mean that in the worst way possible.

SPEAKER_04 20:16

Oh, right, right. No, no, but he is he's in a unique industry.

SPEAKER_05 20:19

Yeah, we did we did discuss it, and we were like, yeah, it probably wouldn't actually work for you that good. Just because he does all over the um country, he's very good at what he does, and it's geotechnical, very document-oriented, and specific. And and Peter is dialed. Peter is dialed. Do you know their tagline?

SPEAKER_04 20:37

TerraTechnics. What is that? Your hole. Yeah, your hole is our goal. That's right. So that's beautiful. They'd be beautiful. Hey, I want to ask Peter this. Have you been up uh by the uh the Illinois casino? Yes. Okay, they're that competitor of yours, that comp they're they're drilling some massive holes out there right in the front of the building. Oh shit. What?

SPEAKER_03 21:00

Did you see that? I mean, what do you how does that how do you feel? What's tell us about that?

SPEAKER_04 21:04

I think they're a national. They're they're you know who they are. They're huge. They're the same guys doing the bridge up there in uh my hood. Sure. Is it terra firma?

SPEAKER_03 21:12

Is that the no, no, no. Don't go there with terra firma. Well, I'm a n do you know strata design? I do. Randy Good? I do. Great guy. Yeah. He's actually I'm renting a uh excavator off of him.

SPEAKER_01 21:25

Yeah, yeah. So they're upstream, they they start studying the dirt. But uh Randy's been at it a long time.

SPEAKER_03 21:33

Yeah. That's all he's uh he's uh less than a mile from my house. That's I got to know him when I was building my house. Yeah. That's awesome.

SPEAKER_04 21:40

And Lucas, do you realize that Arrow Timber built a house for Peter?

SPEAKER_03 21:46

I didn't know that until I listened to the podcast. Okay. Shout out Trevor Buck.

SPEAKER_04 21:49

So that's why people should listen to the Trevor Buck podcast. 100%. It's very educational and informative.

SPEAKER_05 21:55

Yeah, I mean, who knows how many you know of our dads are building houses for Trevor Bach podcasts. Right. Guests. Right. That's exactly that's what we're trying to do.

SPEAKER_03 22:03

We want to get more of Arrow's guests on here so I can see. Exactly. This is actually I've I was always wondering, I was wondering when I was gonna meet this Peter guy. Right. And leave us a surprise guest, and well, here we are. But uh yeah, interesting. So tell more about your terra firma stuff. Oh not terra firma, sorry terra technically.

SPEAKER_01 22:23

No. The earth.

SPEAKER_04 22:25

That's the more uh PG version. PG version.

SPEAKER_01 22:29

But it it it's a good tagline of we do you know projects where in some case the dirt is crippled or one thing or another. In this case, Dallas, Texas, we're doing a very large wall for a national client and capturing three acres of space for them to create parking.

SPEAKER_04 22:45

Oh, solid. So Peter sent me a picture. That wall is how high?

SPEAKER_01 22:49

It'll be 39 to be exact at the highest point.

SPEAKER_04 22:52

So he's got a wall that's been uh shot created. That's right. Okay, and there's there's a dozer parked at the bottom that gives you some perspective about how big this wall is.

SPEAKER_01 23:01

It's a it was really 900 feet long at the toe of the wall. We will have cut and removed 90,000 cubic bank yards. Not bank yards, but that that's well trucked off yardage.

SPEAKER_03 23:13

Some cotton fill. You like cotton and filling? Yeah, I'm a I'm a cut guy. Fill is easy.

SPEAKER_01 23:17

That's where you just stack blocks and go.

SPEAKER_04 23:19

And for some of our new listeners, and for some of our new listeners, just so you know, Peter is a youper, went to Michigan Tech, so we we have slowly picked up a larger audience, so Peter can talk about that.

SPEAKER_01 23:33

Oh, the the the network and the family just grows. You know, I mean we're down in Las Vegas, and you run into youpers down there. Yep. And and get connected with youpers. Sure, sure. And and non-upers are connecting you's with you're. That's awesome.

SPEAKER_04 23:51

Yep. Shout out uh CUDA parts washers. We want to get them on the podcast if they're listening.

SPEAKER_01 23:57

He he he gave the best rendering of Joe Buck gliding around the D fifty years ago.

SPEAKER_03 24:04

This is the original Joe Buck. The original Joe Buck. Yep. Did you get your skate sharpened by him? I did. Did you know what I was thinking? Speaking of skate sharpeners, I got a buddy that has a skate sharpener, and he said, yeah, random people will just pull up and sharpen skates, and it's 10 bucks a sharpen unless you bring your own wheel or whatever.

SPEAKER_04 24:23

Yep, yep.

SPEAKER_03 24:23

I was like, dude, I don't play hockey, but I would love to just have a skate sharpener and people could pull up and just visit with them. How about like a or a drive-thru? No, I want them, I want them coming in, like, you know, whatever. Oh, you want him just coming in your garage? Stop by my house. Oh, I wonder who's out there, and then you get someone to visit with. Because I do want to ask you, do you ever shut your garage door?

SPEAKER_04 24:42

Uh, nah. Because every time I go by there, the garage was open. I had something to bring him one day. I just went and delivered into his garage. So my wife calls and she's like, Who's here in a white truck?

SPEAKER_03 24:51

I was like, uh, I don't know. Well, he like went in our garage. I'm like, um, yeah, did you ask him? No, he's gone. I was like, all right. So you could put a skate sharpening machine out there. I know. I mean, right now I'm not in a good spot for people to drive from Battleground to Woodland and then come up. You know, like I'd have to be more of a uh on the beaten path. Right.

SPEAKER_04 25:12

How about um if you and Levi got that van back and you had a skate sharpening machine in your van and you could drive it to the rink?

SPEAKER_03 25:19

Oh, for sure. Do you remember that uh when when I sold the van and you guys seen it on the way down surface? Yeah, we're sharing a mic right now.

SPEAKER_05 25:28

Um yeah, dude, I do remember that. That was that was great. Oh so memories came flooding back.

SPEAKER_03 25:36

So I s the we had the van, we had yeah, tons of memories in there. It it was I built a deck on top of it, so it was like a the only van with a wooden deck on there. On the top? Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 25:47

Okay. Do you have a railing up there?

SPEAKER_03 25:48

No, it was just like that was his porch.

SPEAKER_04 25:51

Yeah, you know. It looked like something Cascade Fence and Deck would build. Anyway, I sell it. Yeah, probably better.

SPEAKER_05 25:58

Actually, do decks for bands, if you didn't know. Shout out Cascade Fence and Deck.

SPEAKER_03 26:03

And uh anyways, I sell it to this guy who's just wheeling a deal. And I mean, he wanted the best, he just give me a deal, whatever. And I I posted it for like a thousand bucks. And he I said, no, this is a good deal. Uh you can you can take a hike if you don't want it. He's like, Oh, you're sending me away. No, I'll just I'll pay the thousand. Whatever. Anyway, so he's really high energy, high strung guy. Levi sends me the video of them down, uh, they're on like uh is it 26 on the beach? Yeah, like way down Hillsborough, Van's mom, and the boys are losing it in the video. And uh I send it to the guy within like 30 seconds, boom, get a call. The guy answers, that's funny as fuck, bro. Let's go. And he says it like three more times and then just all right later.

SPEAKER_04 26:53

Oh, that's funny. So tell us some more, Peter.

SPEAKER_01 26:57

Well, where do we where do we go with this? Well, tell us about the kid or you want.

SPEAKER_04 27:04

This is that's what that's the Trevor Buck podcast. There's no yeah, we don't follow any of the things.

SPEAKER_03 27:09

I mean, if someone wants to have some clean, like, oh, it had no order. Well, just don't listen. You know what I mean? There's not from the beginning. Can anyone track any order on this thing? You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_04 27:19

Not really. We're all over the map. No, but I I do want to and and Peter, you we can talk about this. And I know this is important because we've had conversation offline, but um, I'd had a very nice conversation that will be episode I think 46 dropping tomorrow or the next day, with the founders of the listen line. So that is a service that she started, shout out Charla Passo about five years ago, and there's a number 833-488-9888. And that's 247. People might be feeling down or in a bad spot. They can call that number and uh and they have listeners. And that was um and I I know Peter, you you and I can talk about this, but because we've had conversations. There's been times when I needed to talk to somebody, and I've called you. There's been other times where you might have sent me a text and you've called me. Now Levi and Lucas are looking at each other. We got the same and and I and I want men, especially men, to hear about this because we're not all just big tough and yeah, we talk too. Levi's my best friend. No, but this is important.

SPEAKER_01 28:32

It is, it is. You know, I I had been on the road, been just disconnected with work, and we're on the road, you work and you sleep and you eat and you work and wash wrists repeat. So one morning, not too long ago, I woke up and just feeling like disconnected. I felt like uh. And and and so what do you do, right? Well, you know, I look and I'm like, you know what, I can call Trevor Buck. So I called Trevor Buck and boom. And in the matter, it was kind of like putting putting a quarter in the jukebox, metaphorically. Yeah. Man, I just started playing.

SPEAKER_04 29:18

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, and that's awesome. And I want people to uh make sure they have somebody, and if they don't, use the listen line, but it's important for can someone explain a jukebox? We have a little bit of a younger audience and a couple of younger.

SPEAKER_03 29:35

Burgerville had theirs for years, so I do remember one of the things. Tell us about the jukebox, Peter.

SPEAKER_04 29:39

Yeah. Oh, so you might have you might have seen one recently on your Route 66 trip.

SPEAKER_01 29:46

Oh, there was okay. Tell us about it. There was Route 66 uh in uh Arizona. Okay, tell us. Absolutely. And uh I got a picture in front of a jukebox with Elvis Presley and Marilyn Monroe. Right. But it was it was the Route 66. I mean, that goes way back. That was the route from Chicago to the beach. You met them both at the same time. At the same time.

SPEAKER_04 30:11

Who is it going to be? Okay, but but for our younger listeners, a jukebox is what?

SPEAKER_01 30:16

Well, it's just a it's a record player. It's a it's a music. I mean, it was a music box. You drop a quarter and you get to select. There you go. What a record. It's Spotify. It was pre-Spotify.

SPEAKER_05 30:25

There you go. Yeah. Oh, like what? Spotify in a box? What the it's can't be, right?

SPEAKER_01 30:35

That's good. Oh, that's good.

SPEAKER_03 30:36

Back to Was that like Bluetooth or something?

SPEAKER_01 30:39

Back to Was there podcasts on there? Back to Miss Posso. Yep. Say it again. The name.

SPEAKER_04 30:45

Charla. Charla Posso. And the listen line. Listen line. Listen line. Thank you. That's what I wanted to get. Okay, and and this has been completely funded so far by private donations. So they have an auction coming up, and you'll be able to hear details on the podcast. But there's also businesses like we had mentioned on the podcast, shout out Tapany Plumbing, J.H. Kelly, and Piper Mechanical. So they value this service enough to where they they help keep this thing funded.

SPEAKER_03 31:12

Is there a spot online that uh like anyone could just fund? Is it like a GoFundMe or is it?

SPEAKER_04 31:18

Absolutely. Go to listenlife.life. And that's and that's their website. If you want to donate, like they said, some people might donate five bucks a month, whatever, but that's it's a it's a really important service for our community.

SPEAKER_01 31:32

No, that's good to know. That that connectedness and ability to connect is powerful. Yep. Really, really uh you just you can't say enough as as you know, as I testified there. Right. You know, it was six in the morning. Who do you call it? Six in the morning. You gotta have a dear friend that you're gonna start robo calling at six. Sure, sure. And Trevor answered. Yep. Trevor picked up, yep. It's easy to gaslight somebody or go, you know, ghost away and kind of I'm not gonna take that call, but yeah, it was it was uh it was something that yeah, I just I don't know, got my wheels going. For sure.

SPEAKER_03 32:11

That's great. What else you got, Lucas, Levi? I think uh calling is better than right now. Like my whole thing is trying to stay off my um YouTube or whatever, even podcasts and stuff like that. I mean besides the turbo buck one. Right, of course. But calling people has uh helped me just you you talk to other people, it's not like you're not you're more uh sharing and and uh I guess the rapport is different than when you're just consuming videos and consuming information, whatever. When you're talking back and forth, it's someone else's opinion, it's uh real experience, it's just uh healthier, it seems like absolutely it's healthier. Uh and it's been awesome. Yep. So I've been getting into that habit too. It's it's uh better for me. That's great. Levi, what do you got?

SPEAKER_05 33:02

Yeah, I I in my like super wise and physiological mind. Right. Um no, I feel like I I do feel like with this like social media has made it more we're so connected that we're disconnected. Yep. Um and we're lying on there. And I feel like that personal connection is just almost gone with a lot of people. Um, like even me personally. I can't tell you how many times I've called Lucas and he's helped me out.

SPEAKER_03 33:29

Um increasingly more than not. It's not like a hey, I need help call. It's just like you call and it helped you out a lot. Yeah, you know, exactly.

SPEAKER_04 33:39

You know, you know, Charla had shared on the listen line uh episode that she's had people call in and she said just calling in and having somebody listen, by the time the conversation was done, whatever was troubling them was was gone. They talked through it and helped them realize and whatever it was, but sometimes that's all it takes is telling somebody what you're going through, and then by when you're all said and done, that felt good.

SPEAKER_03 34:03

Like a recurring thought or like a thought on a loop that you can't get rid of exactly you ever have those, Peter?

SPEAKER_01 34:10

Yes, I call it the hamster and the wheel. There you go.

SPEAKER_05 34:13

There you go. It's great. Yep. Your your worst advocator is your guy, is the guy in your head that's talking to you. Um voice in your head is the worst therapist you could ever ask for.

SPEAKER_03 34:24

But it's also it can be your best friend, too. Right. You have the screen. But Peter, I'm wondering. Um wise businessman, right? No, this is awesome. No, it's Peter's business question. Listen, I'm starting out. I uh so obviously Bert's my dad, you know him. Um I'm 26, almost 27, starting out like you did, I'm sure, so many years ago. What's some mistakes you made along the way, be it with clients, whatever, something that left a scar that maybe could help, you know, me. Good one or anyone else.

SPEAKER_01 34:57

Sure, sure. And and mistakes are the ones that you learn, remember, you know, the easy moments, things that happened that that seemingly may have fallen in place, but it was through hard work, you know, it worked out. But the ones that you know the the the the probably the biggest one is is you know to one stay present, you know, and that's kind of a universal thing with a guy, you know, stay stay present at at home, you know, take time. I think of this one while we were building our house, you know, and and Bert had a great network with an interior design gal. Shout out to her, Kara. And and she and we painted a scene in our ceiling box of of just a place where I could kind of just uh connect to and disconnect. Disconnect from the work. So staying present for for men at all ages, being present, you know, and and having that ability. Naturally, we you know, we we we're cave dwellers. When we gotta solve something, we'll kind of default to a cave. Yeah. You know, go and try to figure it out. And that's okay, but you gotta lock in and lock out, tag out, tag out, you know, lock out, lock out, tag out. Yeah, and and so that kind of stuff at a somewhat you know high level of physiological, but it's it's huge because we gotta take time to be you know to be aware. I call it situational awareness from a social standpoint with everything around, because it's so easy uh to go out and just get driven, get going, and you c you you kind of forget where you've come from and your ability to stay present to everybody around you and and uh to be on your A game and not let your tank get empty and then you got nothing to give when you get home.

SPEAKER_03 36:41

Oh, so you go too far one way, even though you already have a burning desire uh to do that thing, but don't go too hard because it'll put your other out.

SPEAKER_01 36:49

And know that, hey, okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna give everything I can for this particular event, project, time in your life, but then and then you you say, okay, hey, I've got to stay present with the the other you know things that I value. Why am I building a business? As you get older, why am I doing this? You're doing this for freedom, you're doing this for others, you're doing this for the loved ones, family, friends around you. But you gotta stay present for them for sure and for yourself. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 37:19

So and Peter, running a company like yours, I'm sure over the years you get hit up with uh salesmen of all sorts. So what made Levi so different? He he was really a good salesman with his uh cloud rig. So so you gotta tell us what how he was pretty successful with his sales.

SPEAKER_01 37:35

Well, it's just he he's personable.

SPEAKER_04 37:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 37:38

Uh you know, just and and and I guess Trevor Buck embodies this, just we've talked about this, how being you know, just uh interested, genuinely interested outside of your own sphere. And engaged. Being engaged and and and hearing what the other person is, and I mean just being genuine, authentic. Right.

SPEAKER_03 38:00

Yeah, and you can find things to be interested about in someone else's hobby, even though you maybe not I don't like like take classic cars for example. I'm not into classic cars, but when I'm talking to a classic car guy, I I'm like, hey, what's the insurance like on that? Because I that I'm actually curious. Exactly. Quite a bit different than a regular insurance thing, whatever. Um I think that's one thing like I know it's sometimes hard to talk about things that you're not into, but there's always some way you can find and learn. Be a learner. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_04 38:29

And uh and one thing I I do I've I've known Levi for a little bit, but uh so for you civil contractors across the US listening, I'll make sure to put his email and his number in the show notes, but he's just real, he's not a BSer. So that that's I mean that's just and and I think when it comes to business, everybody knows the the slick, fast talking. He's real when he needs to be. No, but I've just I've I've really from what I've got to know, Levi, is uh I I would like to do business with him. Just just like I would like to do business with Lucas. Lucas is real, and like Peter.

SPEAKER_05 39:04

To touch on this um thing that we're talking about with uh you know getting genuine interest in each other. Me and Peter obviously it didn't work out as far as him wanting our software, but we started talking about the geotech thing, and we went on like a two-hour discovery on like this what this idea he has. I don't know, he probably doesn't want to talk about it because it's proprietary. It's proprietary. Yeah. And uh, but it's a really good idea, and I think we're gonna be in contact on keyboard. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 39:33

This is perfect, actually. Sorry, uh you done? That's it.

SPEAKER_05 39:35

All right, are you sure? Raise your hand if you want to talk.

SPEAKER_03 39:39

Levi's got the mic.

SPEAKER_05 39:41

Uh yeah, I mean I just want to say, like, you're good.

SPEAKER_03 39:44

So since you're a geotech, Mountain Tom Tum's for sale. Uh I heard, allegedly. Don't don't quote me on that. But anyway, uh, I was thinking to get in touch with the the owners of In N Out and put it in and out on top of a mountain so that the A, there's no line, and B, you get a way better burger because you hike up there. And then you could be the geotech and figure out how we get to fly line up. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 40:10

So we I am all in. I mean that that's that that that's cool dirt. He already knows it.

SPEAKER_03 40:17

Oh, you know tumtum dirt?

SPEAKER_01 40:19

Well, I I'll I'll learn it. Oh, for sure. And I know people that know you know dirt, and all we gotta do is point them to tumtum.

SPEAKER_03 40:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 40:28

But but that's a good idea. But I heard that In N Out only builds within certain miles of the freeway.

SPEAKER_03 40:33

Yeah, I think we could swing them. Uh no, I I've just thought of that. I was like, oh, it'd be well, yeah, it'd just be a uh fun experience. And maybe the line would be more, maybe they'd sell out more. You never know. But but there's not a road up to it. No, it would have to be a uh elevator to get the burrs and supply line and that sort of thing. Okay. And employees in every day, but everyone else would have to hike. I I don't think this idea is gonna work, Lucas.

SPEAKER_04 41:04

I see the vision. I see the vision. I see the vision.

SPEAKER_03 41:07

Hey, it starts here. Let's just let someone else, you know, 60, you know, dude. Someone could be listening to this 60 years from now.

SPEAKER_01 41:14

Right, right. In the EOS terms, that may have fallen into the something shiny box. Correct, correct.

SPEAKER_04 41:22

We need to focus on your rocks, Lucas. Yeah, I got more. Don't worry. So this hasn't quite been a level 10 podcast. We haven't quite followed our stitches.

SPEAKER_03 41:33

We have to elevate and and dominate. Shout out Andy Sanderson.

SPEAKER_04 41:40

Okay, so I do want to mention um if you want to support the show, go to the TrevorBuckco.com and you can buy some merch. We have some really cool sunglasses coming out. We'll get some get them in the hands of a few of our influencers, but they're called the TB9 Snipers. And they're they're they're pretty sick. So those will be on there soon. And those will work for uh outdoor hockey, construction, anything, chilling on the beach after you're done surfing.

SPEAKER_03 42:06

Um hey, before I I don't want this to get missed. Right. How long did you work fast food at Smithfields? Ooh, fast food. Let's I probably worked there about a year. Okay. And have you worked fast food, Peter?

SPEAKER_01 42:19

No, the only fast food I worked was chasing an elk muzzle loading. Okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 42:24

So pretty slow. I hired elk are pretty slow. It's a pond, that's funny.

SPEAKER_04 42:28

Years ago, some some buddies opened a Detroit pizza in Battleground. Okay. And I learned how to make pizzas and I did some deliveries for them. That was really fun. That was really fun.

SPEAKER_03 42:37

Would you say so? I we actually work at the same place for I lasted two days. Okay. Two or three days at Smithfields. Oh. Did you get fired? No, it's just it was too hard. I'm dead serious. Dude, take your orders or what? Go try it. It is worse than concrete roofing. I'm not I haven't done too much sheetrock. Actually, you know, it's it's harder than all of those because uh it's like 90% constant pressure. There's a lot of them.

SPEAKER_05 43:06

There's it it depends on where you're working too. If you're working at like a high-class fast food place, like what we worked at, yeah. You know, not I don't want to shout out. No free ads. No free ads, obviously.

SPEAKER_03 43:16

Let's just say they did more revenue than Chick-fil-A, and that was right down the road. Okay. So this place was pretty legit.

SPEAKER_04 43:23

No, I'm glad you shared that. That's so so for uh people listening, have a little respect for those who are.

SPEAKER_03 43:29

So if you see the you see the guys out there back there bustling, even the guys you can't see, it's nonstop movement. Even when there was no customers, you just start wiping stuff. Yeah, it's yeah. And I'm sure, I don't know, was it once you got the hang of it, once you're in just uh Yeah, it never yeah, the grind never stops actually.

SPEAKER_05 43:47

It's it's kind of weird. I didn't think it'd be that hard. It is pretty hard. Shout out all fast food uh workers around the world that are listening. Your voice is not heard enough. And I wanted to come on this pod and actually talk about that. 100%. You do not get enough credit. Totally respect that.

SPEAKER_04 44:04

Thank you for sharing that.

SPEAKER_05 44:05

Yeah, and and they don't get paid. They don't get paid enough and they work their butts off. They're one of the hardest workers. They need to unionize. They yeah.

SPEAKER_04 44:14

So so would they would they make good construction workers?

SPEAKER_03 44:17

I think they would. I think the work ethic like if you're lazy and fast food, you it's And um there was one other thing about it that slipping my mind at the moment. Yeah, it's greasy, it's hot, it's sweaty. Right now I've been working whatever, and like I'm f Yeah, like I need to take a sauna or something.

SPEAKER_04 44:43

Yeah, get your sauna shorts and keep that mic up to your mouth.

SPEAKER_05 44:46

They're all over the place. Oh, sorry about that. He's a little nervous. Right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 44:52

Anyway. I will never recover from this. Okay, anyway, so you get off work and you're grease head to toe. You need to shower. You can't like go hang out or anything like that. Like it's it's gross. And that's that was almost like the to top it all off. After working all hard, it's like, alright, yeah, you're it's toast. Um so anyway, shout out to fast food workers like Levi. Shout out to Fast Food Workers. That's great. Shout out to Levi. I mean, he shout out me. Yep. He provided food to a lot of hungry people.

SPEAKER_05 45:23

Yeah. And you stuck with it for a year. Stuck with it for a year. That's awesome. I was there right after hurricane. We were like the only place open. That's actually a crazy story.

SPEAKER_03 45:33

He wasn't fired a manager. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 45:36

Tell us the story. Um do you guys have a time limit on the um I'm here all night.

SPEAKER_03 45:44

Well, you you if you and Peter need to take off, we're gonna be. It's actually touchy Tuesdays tonight here.

SPEAKER_04 45:51

So yeah, we do have to wrap this up pretty soon.

SPEAKER_03 45:53

Oh no, that's at like 7 30.

SPEAKER_05 45:55

So I mean Oh, we got till 7 30.

SPEAKER_03 45:57

Yeah, so we'll that's kind of short.

SPEAKER_05 45:59

I yeah. We could we could probably hold him off.

SPEAKER_04 46:02

I gotta make it up to my house for sure.

SPEAKER_05 46:04

So yeah, but tell us a story about how you fired the manager. Yeah. So this is actually my manager's manager. He was, I was just 16. Um, yeah, we were just you know, working like normal, normal day. Yep. Um, he just starts freaking out for no reason. We have no idea. He just starts going crazy, and we were all just like, you know, what do we do? And everyone's just like super quiet. He's like literally in the back throwing things around. Right. So I just got a I got a sense of courage all of a sudden, and I just went up to him and I was just like, you know, you need to get you to get the out of here like you don't do that here. I don't know why why I thought I felt the need to say this, but um You threw him out of his own restaurant, threw him out of his own restaurant. That guy that guy was like 45, probably. And you were 16. Yeah, right. Much respect for doing that. That's awesome. He got fired the next day, too. So did you get a raise? No, I did get a talking to you. He was like, you know, we really appreciate they do the classic, we really appreciate what you do here, and yeah.

SPEAKER_03 47:11

Uh there's they're real so money. Yeah. So he quit Smithfields and was working somewhere else or whatever. And then we're driving along and he gets a call and North Carolina number or whatever. Uh what was the guy's name? Was it Mr. Lee?

SPEAKER_05 47:24

Or was who was uh no, that was that was our our general manager. Um it was I'm not gonna remember Mr.

SPEAKER_03 47:31

Gibson. Okay. Hello?

SPEAKER_00 47:35

Hey Levi. Yeah, this is Mr. Gibson. I was just wondering if you want to come hang out with us again for a while.

SPEAKER_03 47:42

Leva's like, uh, no, I'm good. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 47:48

Oh, that's great. Yeah. Okay, well, we'll wrap this up. Thank you all for joining us.

SPEAKER_05 47:52

Can I shout out Cloudrig a little bit more? Shout out whoever you want. Learned too much about that. Um, yeah, so CloudRig, it was you know, they reached out to me about three years ago, and we've been building this product, this software tailored for heavy software.

SPEAKER_03 48:05

Why did they reach out in the first place?

SPEAKER_05 48:06

They reached out in the first place to me because they wanted me to buy it, and I told them it's a piece of crap. Um, and it was at that time, and we've built it just a beautiful machine, and I I'm in love with it, and I love talking about it. And um, yeah, I mean we're built for anyone that's struggling with getting foreman to fill out reports. We have AI built all throughout our every single part of our software has AI in it that makes it super, super simple. Foreman can literally talk into their phone and then build a daily report for them. Oh coded everything. That's the pitch right there.

SPEAKER_04 48:40

Right.

SPEAKER_03 48:40

It takes 30 seconds. That's every foreman ever.

SPEAKER_04 48:43

Yeah, like not even. Yeah, because most most foreman on a heavy civil, they don't want to be typing. Nope. They can talk, but that's what we say. Of course, of course they talk.

SPEAKER_05 48:50

But they can talk into a phone. Yeah. No, it's just like calling your PM at the end of the day and telling them what you did. You would just talk into this app and it'll uh build the daily report for you, and you're done. And it's not garbage data. That's the biggest thing. It's good, clean data you can use for future estimating. We have AI built through our estimating with like you know, our AI can build and just you upload your plans and specs, and it'll see any kind of bit risk that you might run into, RFIs that you need to send to the GC. That's a lot of time in estimators is spent doing that, and AI does it in 30 seconds.

SPEAKER_03 49:23

Is that what you mean by garbage data?

SPEAKER_05 49:26

Garbage data from the field. A lot of people are running off data that they can't completely trust, so they're having to tie it together and excel, and that takes way too much time. They're always having to double check it out. Because foreman it's too complex in the field, so the foreman are just running through it super quick.

SPEAKER_04 49:41

Foreman, foreman in a lot of trades, they're awesome electricians, plumbers, uh, equipment operators, but the last thing they want to do is start typing in decibels or doing math like that. So that's not their strength. Yeah. So if you have a platform that's helping them do that, they're gonna love it.

SPEAKER_05 49:55

Yep, and we've covered just about every single basis, I think, as far as getting that foreman to enter in the correct data, and we have tons more ideas. Um, always changing.

SPEAKER_04 50:03

Okay, so for a company that's interested in your product, let's say they sign up. What kind of a learning curve or training process is there?

SPEAKER_05 50:10

Three weeks. Okay. We can get you implemented in three weeks, which everyone listening, if they're if they've done this kind of rollout before, they're gonna be like, yeah, right, but we can. We've done it. I'm doing it right now, that's why I'm here.

SPEAKER_03 50:20

How about with with uh IT guys? It's pretty easy for them to understand and think they can help the company. So like I I imagine some bigger companies have a big IT department.

SPEAKER_05 50:31

Yes. So IT guys, IT guys are they're a lot they want to understand how the app works, so it takes a little bit actually more time with them because they want to figure out throughout the software. Um yeah, they're but but IT guys don't like uh software that's slick and easy to use.

SPEAKER_03 50:48

No, they yeah, they always want like they they need it.

SPEAKER_05 50:53

It's like it's not not gonna lie, I've got a lot of beef with IT guys. I'm honestly kind of annoyed to bring that up.

SPEAKER_04 51:00

Because if it works really easy, well, they get afraid that they're not needed. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_05 51:05

Oh, right, dude. So if you're if you're an IT guy listening to this, your job is coming. We're coming for your job, buddy. No, we're kidding. You still need IT guys, you know. We're just taking out IT guys got to keep the machines all connected.

SPEAKER_04 51:21

Exactly.

SPEAKER_03 51:22

You know, exactly. That's important. There is uh tell you IT story. Uh when I worked at Cascade Fence and Deck, okay, every password at Cascade was like one of two passwords. Which ones?

SPEAKER_02 51:32

It was like I I don't I I couldn't.

SPEAKER_03 51:36

We don't share the ear, but it was like it was like they must not be sponsors. You know, it'd be like uh block 123 or something, you know, like and the I there's this this IT guy like walked up to Lai and was like, yeah, uh are all of our passwords this, like you know, and Lai's like, yeah, you know, it's chill, you know, we all know it, you know, whatever. So then they worked really hard and got the entire company, like pulling teeth, got them on Bitwarden, which was like the super nerdy thing that you uh double end encrypted, bunch of stuff that I don't care about. Anyway, but I've since left Cascade and all these passwords are stored on Bitwarden, and I thank you, nerds. Shout out nerds for uh I I first disagreed, I was kind of not down with it, whatever, but now all my passwords are there, they're remembered, they're safe. Okay. I don't really care that they're safe, I just care that they're remembered and I don't have to keep doing the email thing, forget forgetting your password.

SPEAKER_06 52:36

Right. Awesome.

SPEAKER_03 52:37

Uh can we do you got a little bit of time? I want to get to know Peter a little bit more. Yeah, absolutely. Yes. Uh what's your enough of the boring Terra technical stuff. Uh what's your extracurriculars? I mean, you're you're obviously a grandfather. No, no, I'm not. Wow.

SPEAKER_01 52:54

And I'm 80s that's by I you know, I I I just bought a new truck. And and I don't, you know, if some guy somebody came in and said, hey, can I borrow the keys to your truck? I'd be like, who are you? I mean, for a guy to come in and start, you know, like borrowing my daughter? No, wait a minute. You're not ready for that. You're not ready for that, Peter.

SPEAKER_04 53:17

You don't deserve that, Peter.

SPEAKER_01 53:20

You don't borrow a daughter, dude. I'm just not ready to just turn over. But but um but really shout out. I mean, the day will come. I'm ready. I'll be ready, but I'm just not yet.

SPEAKER_03 53:33

Yeah. Uh how many kids do you have?

SPEAKER_01 53:35

Four. Four or twenty-four twins, twenty-one, twin boys, and then a 16-year-old.

SPEAKER_02 53:41

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 53:41

And and I and if I could just freeze time, you're everybody's out there, you've been there, whether you're on the young, middle, or old. Oh, it just yeah, it's like lightning rails, it goes quick. That's we were trying to broker a ski trip. We're getting dumped. The mountains getting dumped. We've got some other weather precipitation issues we're watching, but I mean, you know, they all have jobs of some proportion right now. So so we're all trying to broker just a ski trip, and it's a big deal because there's all these.

SPEAKER_03 54:08

Where it used to be, you'd just load them up and go.

SPEAKER_01 54:10

Right. So there's a song, you know, uh, you know how it goes, Zover Little Boy Boo and the Man in the Moon, you know, when you come home, Daddy Don't Know When. We'll get together then, you know, and rain checks. Yeah. So extra quickly, I I just wove in, uh loved it. Anything on snow, ride, slide, ski, snowbill. Peter snowmobile.

SPEAKER_04 54:32

Peter plays really Peter Peter plays hockey with the Sumo Boikas. Shout out the boikas.

SPEAKER_01 54:36

Yeah, the boikas.

SPEAKER_03 54:37

Okay, we'll skip hockey this one. How about snowmobiling? Where have you been? Have you been did Canada, Alaska?

SPEAKER_01 54:43

Started, so you know, obviously, shout out to you know, Tapio there. Well, this year the Snowmobile Hill climb was canceled due to lack of snow. Oh, they couldn't keep the circuit going. Climb it. Leading up. Yep. It's another topic. Let's get into it. Let's get into it. But we got um but uh yeah, snowmobiles started doing that, of course. Did that I mean that was a means of transportation in the UP. Oh, right. You know, when my dad was young. I mean, Evanrude made a you know, like the s the outboard manufacturer company. Okay. Yeah, they they made those that made boat motors also made snowmobiles six months.

SPEAKER_03 55:20

Because there's that much of a demand up there.

SPEAKER_01 55:22

Well, it was kind of a progression, but I mean it's a it's a youper thing. I mean, if you have six months of snow like they're having now, they're getting another squall. Right. They're getting a dumping. So just snowmobiles, yeah. Yeah, snowmobiles and and cross-country skiing in the day. I love that because then they invented the skating style skiing. So there was a big hill in Hancock they pioneered called Mosto Hitu.

SPEAKER_03 55:47

I even as a Finlander am butchering that Mosto, it means copy on Machu Picchu or whatever.

SPEAKER_01 55:52

No, it it all I could say is uh I would translate that loosely as big hill or big hills. It was steep. Oh yeah. So cross country skiing, and they haven't done it in a while. But then a little golf. Okay, pickleball. I walk through a pickleball court first time on a pod.

SPEAKER_03 56:09

In fact, you should come here. There's uh a couple of Bert's old uh some framers he worked with and different guys he's worked at that have showed up here. Uh but Tuesday night they do a 15-minute kettlebell workout, and then they take a sauna right over there. You can see that, and there's a little plunge, whatever.

SPEAKER_04 56:26

Sauna, and there's a sign on the sauna that says shorts required. Yep, shorts required mandatory shorts.

SPEAKER_01 56:32

Yep, there's there's kids here. Organic shorts, right? No nanoblass.

SPEAKER_03 56:35

But no, seriously, so there's a big uh there's a little workout, and then there's snacks hereafter, and everyone sits in here and visits about maybe two hours or two to three.

SPEAKER_04 56:42

This is the toasty Tuesday. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh yeah. We are yeah, Bert talked about it on the podcast. Yep.

SPEAKER_03 56:49

It would actually be seven. Seven o'clock tonight would be the the workout, starts at seven. And there's people that show up at seven thirty skipping the workout, which they just come for the sound of the house. Show up playing hockey. But that's totally, yeah. Right. Yeah, exactly. And then uh totally donations only, I mean just whatever. So I've been here, I'm not a regular, but I have been here a handful of times, and the conversation never dies. You never know who's gonna be here, and it's just it's pretty pretty cool.

SPEAKER_04 57:15

And Bert has a and I would love to, it's just I'm I'm a more of a morning person than a night person, but the the group of people that he has on are just just a whole bunch of interesting people of every every sorts of age, walk of life, whatever. But it would be super cool to come sometime. Yep.

SPEAKER_03 57:31

Go ahead. What's that? Yeah, we can we can cut whatever you want out. What's up?

SPEAKER_01 57:34

No, no, no. That was my hand gesture for tying a knot. Are you you yeah? I mean, we'll be going 7 30. Is that a leave?

SPEAKER_03 57:43

You just pull the trigger.

SPEAKER_04 57:44

I mean, we can Oh yeah, no. If anyone has anything, I'm I'm done. I I've I've enjoyed this, but if anyone has I don't want to cut anyone short, but I'm I'm good. So would you be into that? Are you uh Oh, totally? You seem like you stay active.

SPEAKER_01 57:55

I'm a little bit of an extrovert and and and I do love pickleball. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 57:59

Do they play pickleball on Toasty Tuesday or no? It's funny. The uh the workout has taken over. Like I remember when I was first it was first starting, there was kids that were hitting the pickleballs, whatever, and now all the kids are even grabbing their own little weights. Oh, yeah. They're even doing the chalk, getting chalk on their hands and getting on into it. So which turned into I mean, say what you want about exercise, but it's obviously nothing to be nothing to scoff at. Absolutely not. Um very important. As far as for these little kids, they're gonna have childhood memories of doing something that I could have never found out when I was their age, you know. Just that time in in society, gyms weren't even hardly that much, you know, the whole thing. Are the kids doing uh sauna and cold plunge?

SPEAKER_04 58:42

Oh yeah. That's awesome. So there's not a lot of he has what two or three cold plunges right out here.

SPEAKER_03 58:47

Yep, and they're uh they're from Facebook. You can get them for like uh$2,500 apiece. Okay. So pretty decent cold plunge. Honey some guy makes them and uh it's got a filter and everything. But there's so much people that the sauna door is just kind of revolving. But uh yeah, it's it's pretty cool. That's great. Okay, anyone else?

SPEAKER_01 59:07

Bimpoo marks on the bench. There you go.

SPEAKER_03 59:09

A lot of bimpoo marks. Uh Levi, you got anything else? Tell us more stories. What uh what else happened to Smithfields?

SPEAKER_05 59:19

Smithfield is fantastic, but we leave that we leave that in the past.

SPEAKER_03 59:22

Hey, what can we talk surfing for a little bit? Sure. Yeah. We can talk the next three hours out of it. Have the waves been decent out there?

SPEAKER_05 59:31

Waves have been terrible. Oh okay. We haven't been surfing at all. Um we went up to Outer Banks and we scored really good.

SPEAKER_03 59:38

You did score to Outer Banks just recently.

SPEAKER_05 59:40

Yeah, it was like 15 feet. It was actually and it was fun 15 feet.

SPEAKER_03 59:43

Yeah, so now he's he can the story that I told, we were uh scared of it. Sure, sure. Now he's like he's ripping.

SPEAKER_05 59:51

Okay, so when you're on when you're in 15 foot, what size board are you using? So actually at that time I used too small of a board. Um I probably should be using like a six foot. Yeah. Um I usually rip like a five ten. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:04

Um but uh oh this is from the reef at Chambers. Gas chambers.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:10

Shout out. Shout out gas chambers. Uh actually secret squat. We should probably cut that out. Yeah. Secret squat. Oh, that's that's in Hawaii.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:18

Secret squat. Um very shallow and I ducked over into the reef. Yeah. How was pipe? Uh that's I just surf chambers. I didn't surf it. Oh, you didn't surf. No, it was but isn't it? Chambers is right next to you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway. Um That's cool. Super dope. And I met Koa.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:36

That is really dope.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:37

Yeah, shout out all the surfers. Now everyone else is left. Shout out to the surfers that are left. I met Koa. He's a really great guy. Did you learn anything from Koa? Um he said he competed and it didn't go that well. Because I asked him if he competed this year or whatever. Oh and he said that so like it was entry level for me, it was maybe eight foot faces at the chambers. And he's I was like, is that kind of too small for you? He's like, oh no, it's fun. Oh, so you still people are still enjoying it at that size. But yeah. Um John, do you gotta get what do you got going at your house? What do you have to go get get to so that's it?

SPEAKER_04 1:01:11

I gotta get some uh temporary outlets installed, so shout out Kevin Sarkla with Country Restoration can set up some drying out equipment. So get the framing to uh we're trying to get the wood to get below a certain moisture content so they can insulate. Yeah, okay. So I just got power energized to the house.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:30

And we still gotta build our first uh Trevor Buck LGS sound.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:33

Yeah, I'm kinda waiting. You were gonna send me a mock-up or a model because I really like your model to do. You were gonna make me a 3D model of that. Yeah, can we cut that out? I'll get there. Oh, yeah, no, it'll come.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:45

Yeah, yeah. So perfect. Peter, anything else? Thank you guys. This has been great. Dude, this is awesome. And uh this is the first time I've seen Leva in like uh I don't know, three months. Okay, so yeah, like met him on the pod.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:57

Like, follow, subscribe on Apple and Spotify, and give this one, especially this one, a five star review. Oh, for sure. It's good to meet you, Peter. Thank you all, Peter. Thank you. And this episode was edited and produced by Daisy Media. Thank you. Good night.