59. Skully - Canadian- Michigan Tech - Alfreds Roofing

Skully joins the podcast to talk about growing up in Canada . Raised by an Olympic athlete . Going to Michigan Tech . Culture shock in the UP . Married a gal from Detroit . Started Detroit pizza in SW Washington , now is running Alfreds roofing . We talked about Skully's epic shoe collection. This is Great !  

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:12

Welcome to the Trevor Buck Podcast, episode 59, and this episode is sponsored by Alfred's roofing. And we want to welcome Skoly to the pod.

SPEAKER_00 0:23

Well, nice to meet you all. I don't know who I'm talking to, but uh long time coming.

SPEAKER_01 0:28

We have a lot of listeners, and you are Canadian.

SPEAKER_00 0:31

Yeah, I I identify, and I'm gonna emphasize identify as Canadian. And where did you grow up? I grew up on Vancouver Island in British Columbia. Okay, and what was what was that like? Well, at the time I didn't know anything different, obviously. I had a Norwegian father and an American mother, so they wanted to kick me out of Canada pretty quick. But it was awesome.

SPEAKER_01 0:58

Kate, and your father was in uh some pretty neat industry. Was it timber and uh fishing?

SPEAKER_00 1:03

My dad, uh, when I was a little kid, uh was a logging uh owned a logging company, and uh I wasn't allowed out in the bush, but I knew all about skidders and loaders and yarders and float camps, and I about drowned at four years old. I can't wear anything wool again because that's what I went home in after I fell and fell fell off a uh it was a float camp and I got saved, and I went home in one of those itchy wool like protective uh logging shirts. So I I get PTSD. You might look at wool. I'm scratching myself.

SPEAKER_01 1:44

Okay, and you know what's this is interesting because I remember you as a young boy, but when you would come down and visit, you weren't wearing logger clothes.

SPEAKER_00 1:52

I wasn't allowed in the bush. I probably dressed like uh am I allowed to use the word metrosexual or something? Or is that you can say whatever you want. Uh that yeah, I was probably feathered 80s hair and uh looked a little preppy. Looked like I walked out of a Nordstrom store like a champ.

SPEAKER_01 2:12

And and I remember that, and that was uh something I was uh definitely uh I I don't want to say attract, you know, but but but I noticed you as a young kid that you you had style. Like most of the kids that w grew up around here, we're they were wearing tough skins and cowboy boots, and you were uh you were rocking some pretty uh fire clothes back then. I think that was my mom and dad's pride more than anything. And okay, I just want to mention this growing up, um, you have uh Olympic athletic genes. So you you were truly an athlete playing what sports growing up for fun or for however.

SPEAKER_00 2:50

Well, I played competitively. Uh I started out playing hockey like most Canadians. Actually, I figure skated. I wasn't allowed to play hockey until I learned how to skate, figure skating. So when I was introduced to hockey, I once I got to be balanced enough, I started I played minor league hockey in Canada. And then I played uh high school basketball. But throughout the time I also ran track, did cross-country running, played soccer, and overall I played a lot of rugby. Uh anything that took hand-eye coordination, because I was not gonna cross-country ski like my father. I had to, I was introduced just a little story backstory. When you have somebody that's uh next level, next level kind of elite athlete, they they don't train and practice like normal human beings. So before I could downhill ski each weekend, we had a cabin on a ski hill, kind of a little backstory. I had to ski 15 kilometers of cross-country skiing. So I grew to hate it. But but I had to get on that downhill ski hill left and ski, I had to cross-country ski 15 kilometers and then I got to go on the hill. So I'm up early, knock out the 15 kilometers of skiing and hating every second of it. It was great for my you know physical, you know, fitness, but yeah, I had no passion for anything my dad uh did. However, I I I was well trained and exposed. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:42

And uh little fun fact, you played with a well-known NBA uh basketball player in high school.

SPEAKER_00 4:48

I didn't play with him. He graduated from the same high school. I did play pickup ball with him around. And he Steve Nash, I mean, if anybody's familiar with, he graduated from St. Michael's University School as I did. I'm two years older. Yeah, he's uh that was it's a little private school, it's a little private school in Canada.

SPEAKER_01 5:09

Okay. And uh when did you so after high school, is that when you went to the UP to Michigan Tech?

SPEAKER_00 5:16

Yeah, I went from a first world country to a second world country up in the UP there.

SPEAKER_01 5:20

Okay, and uh and how did that happen? How did you end up choosing tech, or did tech choose you, or how'd you end up there?

SPEAKER_00 5:26

I have a grandma and grandpa that lived up there, and I had to go to get in-state tuition. Now I'm an international student technically, coming from Canada, so I had to go get a driver's license and have a mailing address in the UP, wait six months, and then I went to school up there.

SPEAKER_01 5:45

And what was your experience like in the UP? It's a little bit different up there.

SPEAKER_00 5:52

Don't show up with long hair and purple shoes and a scarf or a belt. I know that.

SPEAKER_01 5:59

So they were uh looking at you a little cross-eyed up there.

SPEAKER_00 6:03

Yeah, they wouldn't even change in the same locker room as me in hockey. And uh how many years did you spend at tech? Um, almost two full years, but I got engaged to my wife at that time.

SPEAKER_01 6:17

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 6:18

And I thought I was smarter than all the professors up there, so I decided I'd don't tell me how to do a business, go do one. So I left.

SPEAKER_01 6:27

Okay, and you got married to a gal from Detroit? Absolutely yes, I did.

SPEAKER_00 6:32

Okay, and then did you move out to Washington or where did you go from Oh we uh we got married in Detroit in 93, August of 93, and then we moved to Clark County. Okay. We lived in I think we moved 13 times the first two years we were married. Um so it throughout Clark County. But I brought an 18-year-old girl from Michigan, the city, and I brought her out here.

SPEAKER_01 7:00

And uh that that's a neat story because uh some of us that that are listening don't know, but uh Detroit people are uh are pretty neat people. So so maybe out here washing a lot of us are used to construction, but like your wife grew up in a culture where automotive different industries. So engineering. Yeah. So you your wife's got uh Well, they're they're intelligent, correct.

SPEAKER_00 7:22

And they think before they speak. I mean they they they process things and they like they behave, they're tactful. There's a lot of things they are that I am definitely not.

SPEAKER_01 7:37

And I want to ask you this because we have some friendly smack talk on the uh podcast here, but the yoppers think the best hockey players in Michigan are from the UP, and some of the guys from downstate like to argue that the best hockey players are from downstate. So what what what's your uh thoughts on that?

SPEAKER_00 7:54

Okay, when it comes to hockey, the like the pond hockey kind of guys. No offense to the yoppers. Uh yes, they they produce some fantastic uh you know pond hockey superstars. But your next level greatest of all time, American hockey American-born players, they come from the Detroit metro area. Sorry, youpers. You guys are fourth liners, man. I I I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_01 8:29

Okay, and when uh you were living up in the UP, did you take saunas up there with them? No, I would never sauna.

SPEAKER_00 8:37

I have a sweating problem. How about did you eat pasties? I love pasties. Okay, but I buried them in gravy because I'm Canadian. Everything has gravy on it in Canada. Okay, this is before poutine, guys. Oh, before poutine. So that's a new thing. Oh, fries and gravy, baby. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 8:56

So we just put gravy on everything, moisten it up. Okay. And uh so then you're living out here. At some point, you were uh part owners of a Detroit pizza company.

SPEAKER_00 9:07

Yes, I uh I was the uh ground floor of that particular pizza place again. Uh we this is interesting you bring this up, John. Am I allowed to use your name? Of course. Anyway, um, yeah, it's the greatest job I ever had. It all started because I delivered Domino's pizza and they had that 30 minutes or less uh delivery, and that's the best job I've ever had, and it's the most money I've ever had in my pocket. I mean, I was always but it was always a race, and I have a my memory is pretty good, so I I was like map quest or this is predated to people. I guess now it's Google Maps or whatever. Or Apple things. Apple Apple Apple Maps. I had that in my head delivering pizzas. Okay. I did have 18 moving violations between 16 and 18 years old. So that I got my pizzas there on time.

SPEAKER_01 10:04

Okay. So and uh so then from there you what what what were you doing after that? Did you move back to Detroit?

SPEAKER_00 10:12

Uh no, I I I guess I I met my wife at at church in uh in ninety one. I graduated in 1990 to kind of give date myself here, and then then I met her in June of 91. And then I was already enrolled at tech for September, Michigan Tech. In September. So I spent the summer in Detroit prior, not intentionally. I met her and then I just moved down there and you know was a dishwasher at Red Robin or Red Lobster and uh delivered pizzas for a Mr. Bees out of Madison Heights, Michigan, and then I went to school up at up at tech. Okay. Yeah. That September.

SPEAKER_01 10:56

Okay, and at one point you were in the uh were you in mortgage industry? I was in Detroit area.

SPEAKER_00 11:01

No, no, no, I started in Detroit. I started in Auburn Hills, Michigan, and then I was almost, you know, nine I moved to Minneapolis area for uh ten years, and that was that's what I did. I I transferred with a mortgage company from Michigan to uh Brooklyn, not Brooklyn Park, uh Fridley, Minnesota. And then I went to work and with a broker and after that once I lived in Minnesota, and that's what I did there for the majority of the time. I lived in Minnesota. How'd you like that industry? I love that industry. But uh I was also Minnesota at the time was like mortgage fraud, but became a pretty you know, with the big real estate crash of 07, 8, 9, and 10, that was in the middle of my my sort of mortgage career. And Minnesota was made an example with all you mix, you know, the I think per capita Minnesota has the highest education of people with bachelor's degrees per capita. You mix peop smart people with easy access to money, that's a recipe for bad things to happen.

SPEAKER_01 12:11

Right, right, right. And then at some point you moved out west. What was the timeline on that?

SPEAKER_00 12:18

Okay, so I first seven years I was married, I lived in '93 to two thousand. I lived out here in Clark County. Okay. And then I moved to Michigan and Windsor, Ontario for three years. And then moved to Minnesota for almost ten, and then back to Michigan to the Detroit metro area in for eight years, and then 2020 I came back here. Okay with my tail between my legs. I want I might add, because all my kids got married and moved out here.

SPEAKER_01 12:50

Okay, okay, okay. Well, well, that's the okay. And while we're on, I do want to talk about this because uh, you know, this podcast we like to talk about hockey, but we had we we also have some smack talk. Um Minnesota calls themselves the state of hockey. Yeah. So who has the better hockey players, Minnesota or Michigan? Depending on what level.

SPEAKER_00 13:11

Minnesota overall, their high school hockey program is absolutely second to none. Yeah, phenomenal, phenomenal. Now, when you're talking elite type players, all of those elite players end up playing some it's gonna change now with the the the NCAA being able to play in the dub in you know, play in the Canadian Hockey League now. Yep. So those top American players that you're gonna see them maybe play one or two years in in the O on the East Coast or the W, the dub out here, and then go to the NCAA and play play college hockey. But but I would say, what's the who's the greatest minute play player from Minnesota and who's the greatest player from Michigan? There's a lot of Minnesota connections, but they aren't from Minnesota. Mike Madonna, I'll name one of the greatest Americans ever. He played for the Minnesota North Stars before he became a Dallas star, but he's from Waterford, Michigan. I'm gonna be loud. Waterford, Michigan.

SPEAKER_01 14:19

Oh, that is awesome. Okay, so then you followed your family out here like a good uh father and grandfather.

SPEAKER_00 14:26

I ate I ate humble pie. I ate your pie, John. I ate everyone out here's pie. I swear I'd never live in this area again. Well, we're sure glad you're here. No, I'm glad we are. We we've we've adjusted uh my wife and I love being back and being close to everybody and our dear friends.

SPEAKER_01 14:42

Yeah. And your wife has a cool job. Shout out her employer, Vital Care in Battleground. Love that place.

SPEAKER_00 14:48

Yeah, she's uh she's a nurse.

SPEAKER_01 14:51

Okay, yeah, and uh you're involved with a roofing company. Tell us about your roofing company.

SPEAKER_00 14:56

Uh um do as I say, not as I do. It would be unfair. No, it it's you know, there's it's been a long time coming and trying to uh and just I just want to be a guidance counselor, I guess, because we young people learning and trying to build something that we can stand behind and be proud of. Or I I are we allowed to say proud or or I but just we're just I I want we care, you know, at the end of the day, our I just got off the phone actually with a manufacturer and I said we all work for somebody, and that's our clients, our customers, our and and that's who we gotta do right by and in all things. And that's I that's I just want to instill that, and you know, that's that's the reality. I want to do right by them. And and so it's just it's uh it's gonna be a work in progress.

SPEAKER_01 15:55

And if you're in our area and you've seen uh their their rigs or their trucks or their vans, they have some pretty cool branding done by Zap Raps.

SPEAKER_00 16:03

Yeah, oh yeah, Austin over there at Zap is uh awesome. I think we got a schedule for a couple more vehicles here on the 27th of April.

SPEAKER_01 16:11

They they look great. They're they're visible and they uh relate with uh your average uh homeowner, you might say. It's awesome. Good job.

SPEAKER_00 16:20

Yeah, and if anybody asks who Alfred is, it's the guy on the side of the truck or the van. There you go.

SPEAKER_01 16:25

And uh are you doing uh new construction, you're doing tear-offs, you're doing maintenance, what do you all do you do commercial roofing?

SPEAKER_00 16:32

What yeah we would like to say that we you know, our certifications and different things, we can cover all those areas you mentioned. So there's you know, where there's a need, we can provide that need, whether it's uh like I said, uh like a flat roof or a like a commercial type low pitch stuff that even involves you know insulation or tapered or some kind of engineered stuff all the way down to your dog house.

SPEAKER_01 17:08

Okay, that's that's great. And uh so homeowners like me. Oh, real quick, John.

SPEAKER_00 17:13

Yes, go ahead. I should mention we love to do specialty type products, whether it's your metals, your and your your engineered slates and tiles, your your more synthetic, okay. Long-term product, like those are stuff we're in the process of becoming like exclusive installer or craftsman type stuff with a various other products.

SPEAKER_01 17:36

So so tell us about those products, say like a metal roof or a tile or uh those that have a longer life expectancy.

SPEAKER_00 17:44

Yeah, so like there's a product, like it's called Bravo Tile. It's the only one that's probably almost a hundred percent uh recycled, and it's it's it's not your cheapest product. If you need recession proof type people that want to spend, but it's truly a bumper to bumper 50 year, like legit warranty, then that product will you know fulfill its life provided you install it as spec. That's that's awesome.

SPEAKER_01 18:14

And those those projects are probably challenging or uh more enjoyable for your guys, and then it's uh rewarding knowing that that it's gonna basically a lifetime roof.

SPEAKER_00 18:23

Yeah, it's they they love them. I mean, you you're gonna be on it for weeks versus maybe hours sometimes.

SPEAKER_01 18:31

So right, right. And your uh traditional asphalt shingle roof, what kind of uh life expectancy? You know, you hear them uh advertise like a 30-year warranty, but then I always hear that well it don't they rarely last 30 years.

SPEAKER_00 18:45

We live in the Pacific Northwest, we face elements that are uh if you get an over 20 years of you know where it looks good and you know and you've done maintained your maintenance, like he talked about, like whether it's your you know cleaning off the debris, all the foliage and all the stuff that does pile up behind if you get over 20 years, feel fortunate. Read the fine print on all those warrants, people, please. Okay, so and they should be doing maintenance on them, what, once a year? Yeah, depending on what kind of foliage you have around like tree cover and whatnot around your home. Yeah if you live in a development that doesn't have much of that, you should still you still get a lot of dust and like that little sediment that will pile up. Right. So maybe once a year or maybe every two years you go up and do a little moss treatment and and clean out your gutters and and you know get behind all those penetrations that are in your roof. Now, in those places that have needles and tree cover, you got you should be on it twice a year, spring and fall.

SPEAKER_01 19:59

That's great. And uh currently, right now working for Alfred's uh roofing, how many employees are there?

SPEAKER_00 20:06

We fluctuate depending on the season from you know fifteen to as many as thirty in the summer, depending on like it's and you know, and that can expand based on the need. You know, we have a the community that works with us, if you take care of them, they take care of you. And we so we have a pretty large access to an even larger community. Oh, that's needed.

SPEAKER_01 20:37

And would you say uh summer is your uh your hot or your busy season?

SPEAKER_00 20:42

It is. Okay. I mean, that's just because people all think about it's drier, so we should install roofs, but I I do want to say it's you know, it's fine to do it in the winter and spring because then you get the other seasons to see how it performs in those seasons immediately. But you you're putting it under test. You install something in the summer, you might not see the test on it, true test, until that first winter. So there is some advantages to I mean there's n it's always a good time. If you need a roof, do it. I mean, you know, there's uh but there's specifications you really don't want to install the actual products, say if it's really high heat or really cold. You know, so that's that matters.

SPEAKER_01 21:29

Okay. And for people listening today, what kind of deal are you gonna give them if they hear you on the Trevor Buck podcast?

SPEAKER_00 21:37

Well, we have the Trevor Buck minimum 10%, and I want to be clear what the 10% is, it's on the overall project, so it's not you're gonna get a fair quote. It isn't going to be, hey, by the way, we built in the Trevor Buck 10% first and then backed it out. Right, right, right.

SPEAKER_01 22:00

Kate, and you're uh you're setting up the company. You've got uh you've got your son-in-law and one one of your sons working for you?

SPEAKER_00 22:08

Who who's no no I have I have okay, I actually have both I have both my son both my sons work with me. Okay. I have the really smart one that's like totally my wife's side of the family that runs all financials. Okay. And then the one that's more like me uh handles production. Okay. And then I have my and then I have office help with my uh son-in-law, but I also have my cousin Jeff that's that's been uh getting involved recently since uh since we've branding change and reorganization.

SPEAKER_01 22:39

But it's pretty cool. You're setting this up to someday hand it over and they'll they'll be able to run with it.

SPEAKER_00 22:44

Yeah, so I can go play hockey with those Pondhoc superstars up on the UP.

SPEAKER_01 22:49

Hey! What's what's up with the Canucks?

SPEAKER_00 22:53

Dude, dude, I love what's happening with the Canucks. If you're gonna be being in the middle is bad. Right? You want to be really bad or really good. And I them getting their teeth kicked in. Who would want to play in Vancouver today? I've been following them for my entire life. I'm 54. It's the only team I like. I eat, sleep, breathe. I even probably dispose of that color.

SPEAKER_01 23:23

Oh, shoot. This is a problem.

SPEAKER_00 23:27

Nothing but disappointment for 50 years.

SPEAKER_01 23:30

Right. So were you disappointed to see Hughes get traded to Minnesota?

SPEAKER_00 23:34

Not at all. Why? He's awesome. I'm not questioning his ability, but the return is gonna be greater than what he would give the Canucks, and he's gonna and he's gonna not re-sign to Vancouver. He's an American, nobody wants to play in this toxic Canadian market right now. I don't blame him.

SPEAKER_01 23:51

Okay, and hey, tell me a little bit about that because they're uh they're pretty rough up there, aren't they? Like the media and stuff. What's it?

SPEAKER_00 23:57

It's the only game in town in Vancouver. So you're I mean, they've run all their top players out. Bavel, Pavel Beret. I mean, if you're an uh an Uber star up there, why would you stay there? Your greatest thing when good things are happening, and you're the you know, a pile when things aren't good.

SPEAKER_01 24:15

But Canadians are nice. I don't see that uh that's they're wonderful.

SPEAKER_00 24:20

But you put anybody behind a screen or or or pen and paper, and they don't have to look you in the eye and be real.

SPEAKER_01 24:28

And what's it but it's a nice, desirable place to live up there? Yeah, it is. Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_00 24:34

Yeah, yeah, it's I mean I I had a greatest upbringing. I have nothing but I like I said at the beginning, I am Canadian. Sure. That was all my impressionable years as the as a youngster. You know, there's just a a certain way of life that I I miss it to this day, to be honest.

SPEAKER_01 24:51

Hey, tell me about that uh that hockey store up there. It's like the size of a home depot. Well, it's it might even be bigger. We're gonna go there someday.

SPEAKER_00 25:00

It it's like a kid in a candy store. And then with our dollar being so strong here in the U.S., I go back there and it's like open wall at time.

SPEAKER_01 25:07

What's the name of it?

SPEAKER_00 25:09

I think it's called the hockey shop. Okay, yeah, I've just got it's it's in Langley, okay, BC.

SPEAKER_01 25:15

Heard stories about it.

SPEAKER_00 25:16

So I gave you a plug hockey shop. I want some free sticks if you're hearing this.

SPEAKER_01 25:19

Right, exactly. What else do you got?

SPEAKER_00 25:23

What else do I got? Yeah. Um no money.

SPEAKER_01 25:27

Hey, have you been uh have you been hitting any small ball lately?

SPEAKER_00 25:31

What's oh yeah, smack around a little bit above it. Do I dem do I hit my dimple ball? I on the yeah, I I have it's uh it's my medicine, yeah, actually. I need it because it's a place to uh you know to find a little uh escape. I I don't even keep score. I just need the I just need that that piece.

SPEAKER_01 25:54

Yeah, that's your little I'm eighty I'm ADHD combo. You don't go fishing.

SPEAKER_00 26:00

You're ADHD. I if I go fishing with somebody, they're figuring out how to get rid of me immediately.

SPEAKER_01 26:07

Yeah, no, I'm the same way. I would I'm I haven't I've only hit the little ball a few times, but that'd be way funner for me to go smacker on a ball than go fishing. I'm not a fisherman.

SPEAKER_00 26:16

So no, there it it the concentration of being over something like that and living in that moment of trying to just that's all you need to think about for that second, it quiets my my ADHD spinning mind.

SPEAKER_01 26:32

That's awesome. Okay, how about uh we've got to talk about your shoe collection?

SPEAKER_00 26:36

That's a put another problem. I'm just so glad I'm just so glad that that's my addiction. I mean, because there's so many bad ones out there, and that one I can live with. I mean, because I get to see them and use them and enjoy them.

SPEAKER_01 26:50

And shout out Skoly, he's he's even hooked me up with a few of these uh these Travis Scott dunks. They're awesome.

SPEAKER_00 26:56

Yeah, I have they're not dunks, they're they're OG Air Jordan 1s. There you go. And then I do AJ Fours. And if we weren't doing a podcast, it was more of a live stream where you actually saw I'd pull them all out.

SPEAKER_01 27:10

Oh, we're gonna have to go look at your uh your lineup when we're done here. It's awesome. How does your wife like your uh shoe collection? Um or she probably has her own.

SPEAKER_00 27:19

Yeah, she she every time I get a pair, she's got another pair, she's got another pair of shit kickers coming in the in the I'm sorry, cowboy boots. I I I don't coming in the mail. I don't know if I'm allowed to say poop kickers out here.

SPEAKER_01 27:32

I love it. That's great.

SPEAKER_00 27:33

Hey, do you like uh McDavid? Connor McDavid is the greatest NHL player today.

SPEAKER_01 27:39

What? He's never won anything.

SPEAKER_00 27:42

I'm talking skills. I'm talking skilled skilled hockey player.

SPEAKER_01 27:46

Yes, yes. But Alan Iverson was pretty skilled too.

SPEAKER_00 27:49

Yeah, but but a true leader and winner, and overall you you have to have hardware to to create be in that conversation, and you know, because when you play at that level, you are measured by that. Right. And and it's you know, and it takes a team. Hockey is the greatest team sport out there. You need all 23 guys pulling the rope the same way.

SPEAKER_01 28:22

Do you think he'll uh make that happen with the oilers or is he moving on?

SPEAKER_00 28:26

Under their current construction, they'll never win the cup.

SPEAKER_01 28:29

You think he's gonna stick around?

SPEAKER_00 28:32

Well, when he if he leaves and wins a cup, they're gonna there's that question of look at Ray Ray Bork from uh Boston. He didn't win a cup until he went to the avalanche. So was he he wasn't part of the solution in boss in Boston. Sorry, Boston. He was a you know, and he's an all-time first ballot Hall of Famer, great, fantastic player, but it just shows you you need a team. Yeah, and and you need ever you need that room. That's why Florida won, you know, was in the cup three times in a row, one back to back. They didn't care about the stat sheet. They carried about the score. Uh they cared, they cared about the score, the numbers on the scoreboard at the end of the day.

SPEAKER_01 29:14

Right. And uh how about uh do you think uh Matthews will stay in Toronto?

SPEAKER_00 29:20

I wouldn't if I was him. No. Why?

SPEAKER_01 29:23

I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 29:24

Toxic Media, I just got done talking about Vancouver. I mean, that's that's uh I mean they're the hapless leaf. I mean, they haven't they're worse than the Canucks as far as their history of they've been to the cup once in 50 plus years. Vancouver's at least been there three times.

SPEAKER_01 29:40

Oh, that's awesome. Yeah. Well, what else do you have?

SPEAKER_00 29:46

You're the you're the one with the notes. I know.

SPEAKER_01 29:49

I've I've I've ran through my list. You you promised me you were just gonna just let her run.

SPEAKER_00 29:53

I mean, let her well but talk. What are we gonna talk about? We we we we plugged Alfred's roofing. Yep, yep. We plugged my identification as Canadian, we've plugged living in the UP and not showing up with long hair and purple shoes. And I mean we've we've uh you know day to day, what could we add to to uh I am who I am is the the way it is. And I love you for that. I beat to my own drummer and and uh I just you know and it's you know it's don't judge a book by its cover, man, ever. I mean there's uh there's there's a lot to know about everybody. And that's you know, and that's the same way I feel and whether it's my my beliefs and my my daily life, my work life, my family life, and you know, you know, I at the end of the day I'm not I don't worry about what people think of me. If they I I I you know it's it's more important that we you know know who we are internally and and own it.

SPEAKER_01 31:02

Yeah. And I appreciate you about that. Uh I appreciate it about you about that. And that and that's even like like me doing this podcast. I don't worry too much about what people think. I don't want to offend anybody, but getting to uh hear people's stories, it's great.

SPEAKER_00 31:18

Well, you're a better person than me about being offensive. I think I walk around that's being offensive.

SPEAKER_01 31:24

Hey, um have you been playing hockey Friday morning? Or yeah, Friday morning.

SPEAKER_00 31:27

I uh here and there when when they include me on their list, I say I'm in and then half I I I do skate. I I typically like to play Tuesdays and Thursdays that's a drop, okay, the drop and just go, you know, it just you start playing in the evenings, I can't get to sleep at night.

SPEAKER_01 31:44

So same, same. Okay, well, hopefully uh when this house thing uh slows down a bit for me, I'm gonna I need to get back out there.

SPEAKER_00 31:50

So we miss you. I miss playing with you guys.

SPEAKER_01 31:53

The boys still playing pretty regularly. Yes, they are. That's awesome.

SPEAKER_00 31:57

They're they're uh in fact, my uh my son has uh has put together his own skate.

SPEAKER_01 32:02

Okay, that's great.

SPEAKER_00 32:03

You will be included when you're ready. When is it? Saturday afternoons at 4 to 5 30.

SPEAKER_01 32:09

Are you serious? That's that's perfect. Yep.

SPEAKER_00 32:11

I don't know if I'm plugging the ice radar now, too.

SPEAKER_01 32:15

Shout out Bob at Mountain View Ice Rada for giving us this. That's no, that's a good time.

SPEAKER_00 32:20

Yeah, no, that's it just it actually works out perfectly for uh my my family life, and I get to play with my kids. So cool.

SPEAKER_01 32:28

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