Ep 67 - Ned the Tire Salesman - Fineline Tires

Ned rejoins the show to really sell us tires this time . Todays episode is sponsored by Vancouver Plumbing . Give Brandon a call 

E.brandon@hotmail.com

(360) 713-8273

https://www.finelinetire.net/ 

https://www.vancouverplumbingllc.com/ 

Edited & Produced by Daisie Media 

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:12

Welcome to the Trevor Buck Podcast, episode six seven. Six seven.

SPEAKER_00 0:18

Six seven.

SPEAKER_02 0:20

It wouldn't be uh appropriate if we hadn't done this with Ned, because uh he uh he's a he understands what this means with the kids because he's he's way cooler than me. And he uh he understands the kid lingo and I don't, but uh he was all fired up to do six seven. And this episode is sponsored by Vancouver Plumbing. You know Brandon?

SPEAKER_00 0:44

Oh yeah, I okay.

SPEAKER_02 0:46

So Brandon's been from the UP out here on the West Coast plumbing for like 25 years, so I'll put his uh company in the show notes. He's a proud sponsor of the podcast. We're trying to get him on, but he's nervous because the the euporism, the culture up there is a little bit tough to deal with, and we don't have to dive too deep into that. But so we did episode 6-6 with Ned, and uh I'm an idiot, and he informed me I didn't do a very good job. I didn't let him talk about selling tires, so he wanted to come back on and tell us really what tire he wants to sell you.

SPEAKER_00 1:26

I didn't I didn't want to talk about selling tires at all, John. I wanted to talk uh politics, religion, and her. The three things Sammy Kershaw told us not to talk about.

SPEAKER_02 1:43

Right. And so, anyways, we're gonna skip over that and we're gonna go back to the tires. And you said I kept cutting you off. So the this episode, we're really relying on you. And like I said, I am a this podcast is one-year anniversary, and I'm an idiot, but selfishly I do try to keep the conversation going because I I hate going and cutting out and editing. So it's it's awesome when it just flows. But if a guest listening like you has something they want to expound on, just talk about it. So tell me all about what we missed last episode.

SPEAKER_00 2:19

Um, I well, to start with, you thought my uh which tire is the best tire was like I totally blew it. I thought I gave a perfect response. It's the sold tire. Or the tire that holds air.

SPEAKER_02 2:39

Key, but as an idiot like me, I'm walking into fine fine tire and service shop. If that's what you if that's what you tell me that I I need to know more about it. Like plies or rubber, is it from China, or does it need a special inflator valve, or like is it gonna last me 20,000 miles or 30,000 miles? Is it proper for my Nissan hard body? Like, you gotta sell me a little bit on your product.

SPEAKER_00 3:09

Well, I mean, there there's a lot of input you need from the customer to sell a tire, John.

SPEAKER_02 3:14

Okay, it's no ask ask me the difficult questions.

SPEAKER_00 3:20

Well, so there's a million different applications for a tire, right? Just like like you know, you know, kiteboarding. If I just ask you, oh, what's the best kite to buy?

SPEAKER_02 3:33

Right?

SPEAKER_00 3:34

I mean, could you just throw one at me not knowing anything about what I'm gonna do?

SPEAKER_02 3:39

No, I would need to ask you what your wind conditions are and what uh type of uh kiteboarding you're looking to do.

SPEAKER_00 3:47

Right.

SPEAKER_02 3:47

Okay, so ask ask me the tire questions, because you never did last time.

SPEAKER_00 3:52

Yeah, are you gonna be driving in the snow, John?

SPEAKER_02 3:55

Um well, is this pertaining to me living on the west coast? Well, actually, yeah, the where I'm moving, there will be snow, but not a whole bunch. So not your around snow.

SPEAKER_00 4:08

Oh, if you're a new home.

SPEAKER_02 4:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 4:11

So you need a you need a snow tire for two days out of the year.

SPEAKER_02 4:16

Right.

SPEAKER_00 4:17

Nice. I wish I lived there.

SPEAKER_02 4:20

Right. But but let's uh let's focus this on your customers and the UP. So they're they're gonna be driving in snow, what, six months of the year? Yeah, pretty much. Okay, but they don't want to change tires because that's a nuisance.

SPEAKER_00 4:36

Right.

SPEAKER_02 4:37

So sell us a tire that works good in six months of the year in snow, but also runs cool during your uh your hot, swampy mosquito month.

SPEAKER_00 4:50

Okay. So so what you're gonna want is called an all-weather tire. I didn't know this until working there. There's a difference between all season and all weather. Okay. And all an all-season tire is not snow rated.

SPEAKER_02 5:07

Interesting.

SPEAKER_00 5:09

And all weather is.

SPEAKER_02 5:10

Okay, this is good. So what's no, this is no, this is awesome. No, I I love learning. Okay, so what is the difference I'm trying to teach you something. Okay, but what is the difference between all weather and all winter all season? What's the difference?

SPEAKER_00 5:26

Uh all season, apparently it's for places that don't get a whole lot of snow.

SPEAKER_02 5:31

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 5:32

You know?

SPEAKER_02 5:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:34

So so in all weather, it's gonna remain pliable in cold weather for good traction.

SPEAKER_02 5:42

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 5:42

Probably have pretty decent factory cycling.

SPEAKER_02 5:46

Nice.

SPEAKER_00 5:47

Right?

SPEAKER_02 5:48

Nice.

SPEAKER_00 5:48

And uh but it's also gonna um you're also gonna get a lot of miles out of them.

SPEAKER_02 5:56

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 5:57

You know, they say sixty to seventy thousand mile tires.

unknown 6:01

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 6:01

For most of the all weather.

SPEAKER_02 6:03

Now I'm really interested. This is good. You almost got me on the edge. Keep keep telling me. This is great.

SPEAKER_00 6:09

Okay. Now it's all brand preference or tread pattern preference. Okay. Like some people like the uh the it would be kind of a V pattern that sheds it sheds water nice. You know, or uh you can have like your standard tire. It's non-directional. You can rotate it any different direction, any way you want, where the the directional tire has to go either straight forward or straight back, or you have to take it off the wheel to mount it on the other side.

SPEAKER_02 6:46

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 6:48

You picking up what I'm throwing down?

SPEAKER_02 6:50

I I I am. I'm I'm starting to understand. So now if I pick one that's directional and I need to come get them rotated, so now do you charge me for having to swap them on the tires or the wheels?

SPEAKER_00 7:02

Probably, yeah, to do probably to swap them on the wheels, you would. Otherwise, you'd just have to rotate the box to the front and the front straight to the back.

SPEAKER_02 7:11

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 7:12

And then otherwise they're gonna be heading the wrong direction.

SPEAKER_02 7:15

We don't want that. We Ned, we want to keep going in the right direction. You and me, buddy. You and me and all the listeners, we all want to be going in the right direction.

SPEAKER_00 7:26

Absolutely. Okay, so then we do we still don't know what direction we're heading in, but we do want to be going in the right one.

SPEAKER_02 7:34

We know we're going in the right direction. Okay, so when you rotate them, then are you also um doing a alignment?

SPEAKER_00 7:43

Um, I mean, you can.

SPEAKER_02 7:47

No. I'm asking you, is that something that comes with your service? Because you promised me you had the best service.

SPEAKER_00 7:56

You think that we just do tired where we're a full mechanic stuff.

SPEAKER_02 8:01

Okay. So tell us more about what you do.

SPEAKER_00 8:07

Um, yeah, everything. Lots of lots of suspension work.

SPEAKER_02 8:11

Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_00 8:12

You know, worn worn bushings and ball joints and you know you have um you have rough roads up there?

SPEAKER_02 8:19

Do they get all pitted out? What?

SPEAKER_00 8:22

I thought I this spring I thought Trump was bombing the UP out of Iran.

SPEAKER_02 8:29

Okay, so so you have this melted on the pawholes. Right. And that's yeah, and that's because you use salt up there, eats away that the the surface, the pavement.

SPEAKER_00 8:43

Yeah, I mean, that's a huge factor.

SPEAKER_02 8:46

Right. And that that's why on the west coast they outlawed salt, because it's so bad for the roads and the fish and the squirrels and everything else.

SPEAKER_00 8:55

The one thing I want them to outlaw, and they won't. But it's all it's all political, you know. They're the the automakers probably pay for all the salt put on the roads. I wouldn't doubt for a second.

SPEAKER_02 9:11

Right.

SPEAKER_00 9:13

You know. Like your typical 2018 is rotted out of here.

SPEAKER_02 9:19

Really?

SPEAKER_00 9:20

Oh yeah, they're horrible. Absolutely horrible.

SPEAKER_02 9:26

Interesting. So it's a challenge living in the UP.

SPEAKER_00 9:30

Oh yeah. You're telling me.

SPEAKER_02 9:34

I mean, not only you need a snowblower, you need winter tires, and you have need a winter rig that's gets rotted out.

SPEAKER_00 9:42

Yeah.

unknown 9:43

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 9:43

Yeah. Rotted out in a hurry. There. You you don't you don't just take anything apart up here with a set of wrenches. It's you gotta take a torch to it too. I mean, if it's five years old, probably two years old.

SPEAKER_02 10:01

Really?

SPEAKER_00 10:02

You're you're taking stuff apart with by heating it up with a torch.

SPEAKER_02 10:07

That sounds like a lot of work.

SPEAKER_00 10:10

It is.

SPEAKER_02 10:13

But but obviously there's something magical. There must it must be the the copper up there.

SPEAKER_00 10:19

Yeah, there's something in the water that's uh that's messing with people's minds.

SPEAKER_02 10:25

The the copper and the pasties and the saunas just keep I mean the UP is legendary.

SPEAKER_00 10:32

Uh you know, like for me, yeah. I mean, anywhere else I lived, I always just missed the clean, fresh water. You know?

SPEAKER_02 10:41

Right.

SPEAKER_00 10:42

Because I mean in the Cuban Peninsula, you're you're no more than 15 minutes away from Lake Superior, wherever you're at.

SPEAKER_02 10:51

Right.

SPEAKER_00 10:53

You know.

SPEAKER_02 10:53

Okay, so how about um I want to ask you this that you mentioned I I thought you were going a different direction, but how about your uh how's your drinking water up there? Is that from the lake?

SPEAKER_00 11:05

Um some of it Okay. I think like uh like a lot of the city water is comes from the lake, and I mean obviously they do some fear appreciation on it too. Because people swim in it and peeing it, you know. In the lake.

SPEAKER_02 11:24

But I think but like where you live. You live in um Bumbletown.

SPEAKER_00 11:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 11:31

Um do are you on a well?

SPEAKER_00 11:34

I have a well and uh city water.

SPEAKER_02 11:37

So you're you're by by water.

SPEAKER_00 11:41

Yeah. I'm high class. High class and bumbletown.

SPEAKER_02 11:47

I love that. You have diversity when it comes to water selections, you don't judge.

SPEAKER_00 11:51

Right.

SPEAKER_02 11:52

That's awesome.

SPEAKER_00 11:53

See what happened at my house? Yeah, like in in Bumbletown, um, all the wells went dry up here. I don't know when it was or why. It was probably something to do with the mining. But so they ran city water up here, yeah. And the lady that lived in the house I'm in refused to hook up the city water because it's poisonous.

SPEAKER_02 12:18

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 12:18

You know, so she had a well pounded, you know, in solid rock, yeah, 200 something feet deep. I mean, probably spent a lot of money on it.

SPEAKER_02 12:29

Right.

SPEAKER_00 12:30

So but it was stubbed into my lot, so when I put the addition on my house, I I hooked up to it, stubbed it into my house.

unknown 12:41

Right.

SPEAKER_00 12:41

But my house is not hooked up to it, just my son ass. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 12:45

Did uh did Zeb come up there and help you with your well pump?

SPEAKER_00 12:49

No. What?

SPEAKER_02 12:53

Zeb rules.

SPEAKER_00 12:55

All he would say is I'd say, when are you gonna be here? And he'd say soon.

SPEAKER_02 12:59

Soon. That's classic Zeb. And he had um he had a very successful uh business I heard, 906, and he was doing well pumps all over the place, and he does them a little bit different. He's got like common sense and stuff. He's like he's way cool.

unknown 13:16

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:17

So if you need well advice, you should talk to Zeb.

SPEAKER_00 13:20

At 906.

SPEAKER_02 13:22

Right.

SPEAKER_00 13:23

What is he not doing it anymore?

SPEAKER_02 13:25

What it you we we'll have to get him on to talk about it. But no, I think he sold his truck to another youper, but he still does them on the side. But that's I I can't I can't talk for his business, but he's in Mont he's in Montana right now doing a well pump.

unknown 13:48

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:49

Serious. Dude's famous. He goes all over the place.

SPEAKER_00 13:54

Wow. Well, he doesn't even have a well truck anymore. How is he doing that?

SPEAKER_02 14:01

He don't need it. He's figured it out. Oh yeah. You're right. If you use pecs, you don't need a well truck. What? It's way cooler. We gotta get him to on the pod to talk about pecs. He's a big believer in pecs.

SPEAKER_00 14:20

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:23

Do you think you could do my basement?

SPEAKER_02 14:28

Do you think you could argue with him about pecs versus metal piping?

SPEAKER_00 14:32

I'm sure I could. I'm sure I could. He'll argue about anything.

SPEAKER_02 14:38

Right. And for because this is uh we're getting close to the one-year anniversary or we're passing it. But um, so Ned and Zeb used to argue about if hockey goalies were sitting or squatting. And uh I know we have a lot oh sitting or crouching. And we have a lot of new listeners nowadays, so but uh what how did that argument go?

SPEAKER_00 15:04

I don't yeah, I don't know. We were I I I don't even know. We're probably 15 years old.

SPEAKER_02 15:11

Right.

SPEAKER_00 15:12

But I do remember vividly arguing with them.

SPEAKER_02 15:16

Right? What was what was the consensus?

SPEAKER_00 15:22

Well, naturally I won. They're crouching, they're not sitting, their butt's not on anything, right?

SPEAKER_02 15:31

Perfect. No, that makes sense. And and and for our listeners uh listening, me and Ned have had some epic arguments offline, and he just likes to argue.

SPEAKER_00 15:46

I do.

SPEAKER_02 15:48

Why? It's like huh? Why?

SPEAKER_00 15:52

Oh, I just I just love a good discussion.

SPEAKER_02 15:55

No, I appreciate but you have to bring facts.

SPEAKER_00 15:59

Oh, I spit facts, John. You know that.

SPEAKER_02 16:02

Okay, you gotta spit facts. So so if somebody comes into fine line and they're uh set on Cooper tires, you're gonna spit facts.

SPEAKER_00 16:12

Yeah, but uh in the end, they're always right, right? The customer always says I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 16:19

If you have to stand behind your uh warranty, you have to tell them facts.

SPEAKER_00 16:24

Well, right. I'm not gonna warranty a Cooper tire. You know, there's there's no way.

SPEAKER_02 16:32

What was that uh what was that what was that tire Zeb asked you about? The the best one ever.

SPEAKER_00 16:38

The was it a Goodyear or the Goodyear F-32. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 16:43

Tell us about that.

SPEAKER_00 16:45

Oh man, back when we were kids, yeah, like we we only had front-wheel drive cars. We're not like the kids nowadays, where you know, they're driving all-wheel drive, four-wheel drive, mama won't let them drive anything but and uh I mean a front-wheel drive was the bomb of the winter back then. Right. So the Goodyear F-32 was the tire telling ya. It was almost like having four-wheel drive.

SPEAKER_02 17:17

Do they still sell it?

SPEAKER_00 17:19

No. Isn't that no like any good any good thing they they discontinue at.

SPEAKER_02 17:26

You know, isn't that interesting? Because even like uh this is a hockey, but even like hockey sticks, there'll be one year, you know, Titan or Coho or Cooper, they'll come out with an awesome stick, perfect bend, perfect flex, and then the next year they change it. Oh yeah. What's up with that?

SPEAKER_00 17:48

I don't know. They're I guess they're just always trying to improve it, right?

SPEAKER_02 17:53

I know, okay.

SPEAKER_00 17:54

But how about I know.

SPEAKER_02 18:00

How about on your uh I think you're an iPhone guy. Do you always uh do you always do the latest update?

SPEAKER_00 18:08

Well, I I always do eventually because it ticks me off. I gotta I gotta uh tell them no so many times.

SPEAKER_02 18:17

I know. But they always want you to update and then when you do then it don't work as good as it used to. And all you get out of it is a couple new emojis. All you get is a couple new emojis.

SPEAKER_00 18:29

Yeah, yeah. Right. No, I mean they mess up some updates and some of them are good, right?

SPEAKER_02 18:39

Right, but just if it works, don't fix it. Just leave it.

SPEAKER_00 18:44

Yeah, well, where would the world be if we stayed there, John?

SPEAKER_02 18:50

Probably be a better place, Ned.

SPEAKER_00 18:52

It probably would.

SPEAKER_02 18:55

It'd be much simpler.

SPEAKER_00 18:57

That's no lie.

SPEAKER_02 18:59

Right.

SPEAKER_00 19:00

But well, what about the medically though?

SPEAKER_02 19:04

What about it?

SPEAKER_00 19:05

You know, I mean, there's been a lot of medical things that have made our our life way better.

SPEAKER_02 19:12

I know.

SPEAKER_00 19:13

Do we n do we not update that?

SPEAKER_02 19:16

I don't know. That's a good conversation. Bring spit facts.

SPEAKER_00 19:24

Well, I would I would hate to have had my gallbladder surgery without uh any medication.

SPEAKER_02 19:31

Right.

SPEAKER_00 19:32

Or even have gallstones. Holy smokes, they had me morphine nuts and I I think they actually had to go to Delaudit to kill the pain.

SPEAKER_02 19:43

Right.

SPEAKER_00 19:44

Like that's that's like the nuclear option, pretty much.

SPEAKER_02 19:48

They had to go to what? What is that?

SPEAKER_00 19:53

I I think that's what it was. I don't know. The dude the doctor told me that it's like the nuclear option. Like they gave me a ton of morphines and I didn't even touch the paint.

SPEAKER_02 20:09

Well, that's because you were a logger. And when you're when you're that tough working in the woods all day, nothing's gonna help.

SPEAKER_00 20:17

Right. Right. My wife thought I was the biggest wimp when I was going through those gallstones until my sister Dana told her that. Um it was she had it and it was worse than having a child.

SPEAKER_02 20:32

Right. No, I I've heard. I've knock knock on wood, but unfortunately, um fortunately, I haven't got to experience that, and hopefully I don't want to, but yeah, that's no. And uh, I I do want to say no, but but a side note to your medical advancement. I know my father had a hip replacement, and he was back walking within a week, so that stuff is pretty cool.

SPEAKER_01 20:54

Right, right, right.

SPEAKER_02 20:55

So some things are pretty cool, but we don't need 200 new emojis, and we don't need Snapchat and TikTok, and some things are worthless.

SPEAKER_00 21:04

Don't be knocking Snapchat, John. You you need Snapchat, I'm telling you right now.

SPEAKER_02 21:13

No, I I can't relate with the 6-7 crowd. I'm I there's I there there's I I have no use for Snapchat. It sounds weird, and I think it is weird.

SPEAKER_00 21:28

Oh yeah, don't take a picture and send it to someone because I can't do that on uh text. Which is ten times harder on text.

SPEAKER_02 21:40

No, I can text you a picture right now, it's super easy. We don't need Snapchat. Some stupid little ghost emoji. Like what's up with him?

SPEAKER_00 21:48

But can you write on the picture or emotions or what's going on? No. On Snapchat you can.

SPEAKER_02 22:00

You're net. That's one thing I do like about you. You have a sensitive side. I like when you write your emotions on your picture. And what I do, I just put them in the body of the text. I just put, hey, dude, check out this deer I seen on my property. You don't need to be all in the picture.

SPEAKER_00 22:18

You you and I are not the same, huh?

SPEAKER_02 22:20

And that's okay.

SPEAKER_00 22:21

That's why we need. That's why we need uh to keep moving forward, right?

SPEAKER_02 22:26

Right. And that's why we need each other. We need to keep talking about these challenges that come up in our uh life.

SPEAKER_00 22:35

That's right. That's right. But you need to agree with me more, also.

SPEAKER_02 22:41

I'm trying. Some things I do.

SPEAKER_00 22:44

Yeah. Oh you I think you try more just to argue with.

SPEAKER_02 22:52

No, I I don't like arguing. Yeah. I I I'm a people that know me, I'm I'm a wuss. I just fold. I'm like my I'm like my dog. When a mean dog comes up to her, she just rolls over and lays on her back and lifts her legs and be like, hey, come get me.

SPEAKER_00 23:11

How come I always get the submissive dog too? Like totally submissive. That's awesome.

SPEAKER_02 23:18

I don't I don't want a mean dog.

SPEAKER_00 23:21

Well I know, but why does my dog always have to be the world's biggest wimp?

SPEAKER_02 23:25

That's awesome.

SPEAKER_00 23:28

Why can't my dog stand up for himself?

SPEAKER_02 23:31

It it don't matter. Ultimately. If you want the ball, take the ball. If you want the bone, take the bone. You know? It's not worth fighting about. We're not gonna get all bloody and fight. That's Ned, that that's it, that's a good argument. So even like when me and you are having discussions, or you and Zeb are having it ultimately it don't matter who wins or whatever. It's like, you know what?

SPEAKER_00 23:54

If you think that's where you're wrong.

SPEAKER_02 23:58

Okay, tell me. Educate me. Tell me.

SPEAKER_00 24:01

When I'm arguing with Zeb, it matters.

SPEAKER_02 24:04

Why?

SPEAKER_00 24:07

Because I'm his older cousin. I've got to be right.

SPEAKER_02 24:14

Are you really? I didn't know that.

SPEAKER_00 24:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:17

Are you kind of jealous he drives a diesel tremor?

SPEAKER_00 24:22

No, I like my Toyota.

SPEAKER_02 24:24

I do too. I like Toyotas. And he used to drive a Toyota, and he was totally fine driving it, but circumstances all of a sudden he ended up with this super nice tremor.

SPEAKER_01 24:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:37

And he he altered one of the decals and changed it so it says Trevor.

SPEAKER_00 24:47

Why am I not surprised?

SPEAKER_02 24:49

Oh, isn't that awesome?

SPEAKER_00 24:51

Yeah. So there.

SPEAKER_02 24:53

Are you gonna come out here once this house is done? I'm trying to get uh final, hopefully this weekend.

SPEAKER_00 24:59

This weekend?

SPEAKER_02 25:00

I'm trying. HVAC is supposed to be finaled Saturday, and I'm trying to set up final inspections for Monday.

SPEAKER_00 25:06

No kidding. Yep. Are we doing like a housewarming party?

SPEAKER_02 25:11

Um, yeah, I think so. I mean that there's there's there's people that would like to come over, so it it would be uh it would be nice to invite everybody that's helped me through this process. So yeah, that would be cool. Like me. Yeah, and I can show everybody this one by four white cedar was donated by Ned from the UP. Beautiful in the sauna. I could you know make sure people recognize that your contributions.

SPEAKER_00 25:39

Oh you finally got it.

SPEAKER_02 25:42

Oh yeah, yeah, showed up all palletized and wrapped, and it's perfect. Shout out Rhombus Lumber.

SPEAKER_00 25:51

I told you I showed up lost in the mail just in time. You just put it on a on a clock on your wall.

SPEAKER_02 26:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:05

Oh shoot.

SPEAKER_02 26:07

Is uh have you noticed up there already? It's always kind of sad, but you know, August will be here next week.

SPEAKER_00 26:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:16

Have you already noticed the season kind of starting to change?

SPEAKER_00 26:21

Um, I I noticed the we're losing daylight.

SPEAKER_02 26:25

Yep, yep.

SPEAKER_00 26:26

A lot.

SPEAKER_02 26:27

I know. You know, I noticed that this morning. The air feels different. Like, dude, time flies. We gotta get our stuff. I know we gotta get our stuff together.

SPEAKER_00 26:38

I know. I'm still waiting for that, for my stuff to come together. I'm starting to think it ain't gonna happen though.

SPEAKER_02 26:46

You gotta keep trying.

SPEAKER_00 26:48

My frontal lobe started to develop lately, though.

SPEAKER_02 26:54

No, you know, no, you know, that's awesome because you're you're learning new uh what technology or sales or like you're learning. That's awesome. That's super awesome.

SPEAKER_00 27:05

Oh yeah. Yeah. There's a lot to learn. I mean, that's it's actually that's super awesome. I I haven't had a job where I couldn't go be productive doing something since I was, I don't know, twenty years old.

SPEAKER_02 27:24

Right.

SPEAKER_00 27:25

Where where now it's like, I mean, I'm learning everything.

SPEAKER_02 27:29

Right.

SPEAKER_00 27:29

So so what do you want to type my name on a computer two months in?

SPEAKER_02 27:36

So so what do you do when there's no customers? You just like walk around and like, what do you do?

SPEAKER_00 27:43

Um I don't know, catch up on paperwork.

SPEAKER_02 27:47

Oh, nice paperwork.

SPEAKER_00 27:49

Yeah. Right. I hate paperwork.

SPEAKER_02 27:52

Yeah, same. That's I thought you had a staff behind you.

SPEAKER_00 27:56

Well, there are.

SPEAKER_02 27:58

Right.

SPEAKER_00 27:59

I'll be honest, John. I scroll on my phone and there's nothing. Or go talk to the guys in the shop.

SPEAKER_02 28:09

Oh, that's awesome. But you know, you're uh um, you know, in in the in the hockey world, you you're a locker room guy. You're needed. You are.

SPEAKER_00 28:18

I'm not as good as cleaving the locker room, though. That dude, he could hold court in a locker room.

SPEAKER_02 28:25

That guy, we we call him CH. He is so elusive. The other night he said, Hey, I'm on my way home. I'm gonna call you right back and I'll have some topics we can talk about on the pod. And then he ghosted me. So CH, CH, when you hear this, we're still waiting for you.

SPEAKER_00 28:45

The story of my life hanging out like I'll call you right back. I'll call you right back in six months.

SPEAKER_02 28:56

So if you're listening, let's get you on the pod here. Talk about your uh he works for the water district up there in the UP.

unknown 29:03

What?

SPEAKER_00 29:06

The sewer authority.

SPEAKER_02 29:07

Okay, yeah. He he has a important job. Uh-huh. And he likes to hit the little ball, so yeah, he loves golf. CH, we're we're we're calling you out.

SPEAKER_00 29:21

They do it they do golf every day, I think.

SPEAKER_02 29:25

Do you ever in the summer? Do you ever golf?

SPEAKER_00 29:29

Um usually Labor Day weekend.

SPEAKER_02 29:32

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 29:32

I go golfing.

SPEAKER_02 29:34

Right.

SPEAKER_00 29:34

Um I'll I might go a couple other times in the fall, but yeah. I mean, like, it's cool, but I'm not that into it.

SPEAKER_02 29:43

Yeah. Yeah, I've I've never never done it.

SPEAKER_00 29:47

You've never golfed.

SPEAKER_02 29:49

I have never been on a golf course. I went to a driving I had bought some used um what do you call them, sticks, clubs? Clubs. I had bought some some used clubs, and I went to a driving range once, and uh and I was just smoking it. People were like, dude, who is this guy? And then um the head fell off. I'm like, oh, well this sucks. So I left.

SPEAKER_01 30:15

So you quit?

unknown 30:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:17

The head. It was it was like a woody, it was like a big old awesome head, and it just fell off, it fell off the stick. I'm like, okay, golfing's kind of gay.

SPEAKER_01 30:28

I guess golfing's over, eh?

SPEAKER_02 30:31

That was the last time.

SPEAKER_01 30:34

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:35

No, but you know what's I was telling CH this. I I I've never golfed, I've never been on a course, but I love golf courses. They're cool. They are just clean and everything is um immaculate, manicured, like just I I love golf courses. I love when they're watering early in the morning. I love how they Yeah, I I I like, but I've never been on a golf course. But what this is supposed to be a hockey pod, but we're going golf.

SPEAKER_00 31:06

But when you hear these guys hockey players doing the offseason.

SPEAKER_02 31:10

Right. Okay, but when they talk about I don't know, they play what? How many holes?

SPEAKER_00 31:16

Uh you can do nine, eighteen, thirty-six.

SPEAKER_02 31:21

Okay, but when they play thirty-six holes for like six hours, there ain't no freaking there's nothing I can do in this life besides work for that six hours. There is no way.

SPEAKER_00 31:37

So I need I need to find the my attention span's gone after usually after about seven.

SPEAKER_02 31:45

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 31:46

And I can I can manage the last two holes. Yep, yeah. I don't know if I've ever played overnight.

SPEAKER_02 31:54

No, there's no way. That's like fishing for six hours.

SPEAKER_00 31:58

There's whatever.

SPEAKER_02 31:59

That's like, no, we're not doing it.

SPEAKER_00 32:02

Yeah. Especially if you're not catching fish, eh?

SPEAKER_02 32:08

Even if you are. It's not very fun. It's not. I mean, it's like, Kate, after you catch one, it's like, uh, that didn't really do anything for me. I'm done. I I don't but but you know what? Shout shout out to the fisherman, because this is a friendly pod, and uh Zeb will be uh introducing a super uh we can't talk about it. We have an NDA sign, but he has a lure that's gonna catch all the fish in any body of water. But he he's a super fisherman, but yeah, we're we're I'm not going for more than an hour. That's it.

SPEAKER_00 32:52

Do you know that's where Zeb got his nickname from?

SPEAKER_02 32:55

From the lure?

SPEAKER_00 32:58

No, from his little Zebco reel when he was a kid.

SPEAKER_02 33:01

No. You you just broke news. This is great. What's the what's the Zeb Zebcor reel?

SPEAKER_00 33:08

That was a Zebco. It's a brand.

SPEAKER_02 33:11

That's cool.

SPEAKER_00 33:13

Yeah, I don't I don't know how it happened. I mean where he came from, there was a nickname for any everyone and everything.

SPEAKER_02 33:24

Right.

SPEAKER_00 33:25

You know what I mean? And uh yeah, all of a sudden he was Zeb because he had this little Zebco fishing fishing rod.

SPEAKER_02 33:34

That's awesome. Thanks for sharing that. But that is one thing about the UP, there's a lot of nicknames up there.

SPEAKER_00 33:40

Oh. There's more crowds. There's like you don't even know people. You can hang out with someone for years and never know their real name. What's up with that?

SPEAKER_02 33:56

Right?

SPEAKER_00 33:57

Yeah. And some of them have three different nicknames and they get called by their different nickname by whichever group they hang out with.

SPEAKER_01 34:06

Right.

SPEAKER_00 34:09

But I have never had a nickname stick with me, so I'm proud of that.

SPEAKER_02 34:15

Well, with a name like Ned, why would you? I mean it's three letters. You're yeah, you're famous for uh your marijuana leaf belt buckle. Like there's there's no there's no reason you should ever need a nickname.

SPEAKER_00 34:34

I wonder if Sterling would sell me that thing. Oh, that was funny.

SPEAKER_02 34:42

Oh, shoot. Okay, so for our listeners, we have to correct this story so it's we're not um telling lies or uh other names. But um, okay, so Ned did not have a marijuana leaf belt buckle, but he has a story about one.

unknown 35:00

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_02 35:00

Okay. So tell us the story. We don't have to say the name and it don't matter, but what how how did it go?

SPEAKER_00 35:06

Well, it was a guy I triggered with an oak leaf belt buckle that you you were ripping on about having a marijuana leaf belt buckle. And he was very confused.

SPEAKER_02 35:23

Right. Oh, shoot.

SPEAKER_00 35:27

He didn't know where you were coming from on it.

SPEAKER_02 35:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 35:30

It was funny.

SPEAKER_02 35:31

That's good stuff.

SPEAKER_00 35:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 35:35

Uh okay, Ned, this is uh this has been um your podcast, but if there's something that you were gonna um educate us on, feel free to talk away. This is your time.

SPEAKER_00 35:47

You're you I can say whatever I want.

SPEAKER_02 35:52

Yes. Because I can always edit it. So blast away.

SPEAKER_00 36:00

I'll just leave it out, John, because I know you would edit it out.

SPEAKER_02 36:06

Ned, we don't yeah, we love everybody, we're not looking to argue or true um we're not trying to drive a wedge between anybody. That's rude.

SPEAKER_00 36:16

I know.

SPEAKER_02 36:17

Right?

SPEAKER_00 36:18

I we're just having fun.

SPEAKER_02 36:20

I mean ultimately, everybody listening and everybody that we talk to, we I I want to be friendly with, and if they believe that um McDonald's is better than Burgerville, awesome. I could care less.

SPEAKER_00 36:38

Can we argue about that one? We can what do you like better?

SPEAKER_02 36:42

Burgerville. Burgerville? Yeah. It's it's all natural, it's from the West Coast, it's only available in Washington, Oregon, and it's it's awesome. Now, they okay, but they they have fallen into the trap of trying to be like Apple and Snapchat and improve. And they shouldn't have. They should have just kept because if you just get their original cheeseburgers, nobody nobody can touch it. But oh yeah. These companies that think that in order to be successful you have to grow and expand and have more SKUs, it's like, no, you can have a blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. But your original cheeseburger or double beef cheeseburger, that's all you need. Cheeseburger?

SPEAKER_00 37:28

I don't know. Like that sauce on it. Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_02 37:33

That sauce is magical.

SPEAKER_00 37:36

See, like McDonald's is just pure goodness. You don't have to have that on there for it to be just delicious.

SPEAKER_02 37:44

McDonald's is not natural. It's all made in a lab somewhere.

SPEAKER_00 37:50

It's all we like it, John.

SPEAKER_02 37:53

No. Ned, you what do you mean? You you raise beef in your backyard, okay? So you know what real real goodness is.

SPEAKER_00 38:02

Yes. Okay. Real goodness is McDonald's cheeseburgers. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 38:10

With those icky chopped onions and those pickles and that mustard. Nasty.

SPEAKER_00 38:15

No onion.

unknown 38:19

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 38:20

Okay, so if you have to order it, adjusting the what's on the the standard that already that's that they've screwed up.

SPEAKER_00 38:28

You've got a point there. They did screw up by putting onions on it and be telling them they shouldn't.

SPEAKER_02 38:34

Go to Burgerville, order a cheeseburger, and boom. That's it. It's all you need. Keep it simple.

SPEAKER_00 38:43

It's been many years since I had Burgerville, but I mean, it's hard to compete with McDonald's.

SPEAKER_02 38:50

Um yeah, we just can't do McDonald's, Ned. We're um we're we're anti-big corporation.

SPEAKER_00 38:58

Oh yeah. See, my kids, my kids never like McDonald's. So like anytime Nancy or I could go to McDonald's. It's like a treat to us, you know?

SPEAKER_02 39:09

Right?

SPEAKER_00 39:10

And plus plus I just like McDonald's. Yeah. No, I love it.

SPEAKER_02 39:15

No, and occasionally it's fine. I I'm uh I've been uh building a house and there's times I come home and I don't feel like making some. I'll swing through McDonald's and get a whatever. And they're their chicken nuggets are pretty good, but I know they're nasty. They're not even real food.

SPEAKER_00 39:32

Right.

SPEAKER_02 39:33

Right?

SPEAKER_00 39:35

Right. Yeah, there's there's probably nothing healthy about anything in McDonald's.

SPEAKER_02 39:40

Right.

SPEAKER_00 39:41

But it sure is good.

SPEAKER_02 39:43

Right.

SPEAKER_00 39:44

Oh my goodness, Don, there's snake skins.

SPEAKER_02 39:47

There's what?

SPEAKER_00 39:48

Snake skins in my car. Oh, I gotta So I have like a phobia of snakes.

SPEAKER_02 39:57

You have snakes in the UP?

SPEAKER_00 39:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 40:00

How?

SPEAKER_00 40:01

But the other day I was hauling, I had this little nine-horse outboard motor that ended up laying in the grass all summer because my buddy borrowed the trailer, threw it in the grass, and it never got thrown back on the trailer.

SPEAKER_02 40:15

Right.

SPEAKER_00 40:16

So I was moving it into the shipping container.

SPEAKER_02 40:18

Right.

SPEAKER_00 40:19

And I hauled it in there, I set it down, and a snake came crawling out of it.

SPEAKER_02 40:26

Nasty. What kind of snake?

SPEAKER_00 40:29

A garter snake.

SPEAKER_02 40:30

Okay, as a kid, we I I I remember seeing it doesn't matter what kind of snake.

SPEAKER_00 40:35

I know they're all disgusting.

SPEAKER_02 40:36

I know, of course they are. But uh yeah. And shout out a reptile guy. We're trying to get him on the pod. He has a uh reptile. What are what are they what are reptiles?

SPEAKER_00 40:48

Reptile dysfunction?

SPEAKER_02 40:49

No, no, he has like 50 reptiles that he goes around and does a show, and I'm trying to get him on the pod, and we're trying to touch base. But um, no, as a kid, I remember gardener snakes, and they were tiny. But a book, a boa constructor, you know, somebody at work was telling me some boys had a house out here, and somebody ended up getting a a snake, a big one. And that thing got out and it was gone for a long time. And uh, and then one of the boys was sitting in like a recliner one day, and that thing came climbing out of the recliner. It had been hibernating in the recliner.

SPEAKER_00 41:28

Really? I see I I would have just burnt the house down if snakes like there ain't no way I would ever set back foot back in there. No way.

SPEAKER_02 41:38

But that's why I'm excited to have Reptile Gown, because he says um they're uh they're really misunderstood. I mean I think snakes are really nice. They're just wanting to. I don't think they're gonna hurt you.

SPEAKER_00 41:50

I'm sure I'm sure they are misunderstood. Right. Like they're God's creatures and all. But they just give me the heavy jeebies, man. Right. I can't stand them. Like I can I can handle spiders. Right. Like, I have no problem with spiders, but not a snake, no way. I know, but of course, unless unless the spider's too big.

SPEAKER_02 42:12

Okay, but okay, but answer this. How many times have you been bitten by a spider? I mean a snake.

SPEAKER_00 42:21

Uh probably never.

SPEAKER_02 42:22

Okay. How many times have you been bitten by a mosquito?

SPEAKER_00 42:26

A zillion times.

SPEAKER_02 42:27

Okay, so which one is grosser?

SPEAKER_00 42:31

The snake.

SPEAKER_02 42:32

No, the mosquito. Dude, the snake just wants to kiss you. It does. It's cute, it's cute little tongue with a fork.

SPEAKER_00 42:43

Uh no. They just don't can't do them.

SPEAKER_02 42:48

Right.

SPEAKER_00 42:50

All right.

SPEAKER_02 42:51

Okay. You want to shout out um your employer once more?

SPEAKER_00 42:56

My employer, fine line tire. They probably don't want me to.

SPEAKER_02 43:01

No, they they said they didn't know you were so famous. So so so fine line tire in service in Hancock.

SPEAKER_00 43:10

Yes. Okay. We do more than just tires, you know.

SPEAKER_02 43:13

And you're on the north side of the river.

SPEAKER_00 43:16

Well, we have a fine line tire express in Holland.

SPEAKER_02 43:20

Oh, you do? You're both sides. So you're huh. Interesting.

SPEAKER_00 43:26

Yeah. I'm trying to get them to start one in Florida, and I'll go there and run it.

SPEAKER_02 43:32

Right.

SPEAKER_00 43:34

Or uh next to nothing.

SPEAKER_02 43:40

Okay, so so if you're in the UP, you can come to Fine Line Tire and Service. You can get tires, brakes, suspension, wipers, oil change, alignment, full service.

SPEAKER_01 43:54

Right.

SPEAKER_02 43:54

Okay. And when I leave, do you leave the little clear plastic thing on the seat so I know your stinky butt didn't sit on it?

SPEAKER_00 44:02

No, we'll take it off.

SPEAKER_02 44:04

Okay. Well.

SPEAKER_00 44:05

We use them. We use them, but we take them off when we're done.

SPEAKER_02 44:09

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 44:10

Okay we'll leave this, we'll leave an air freshener in your car.

SPEAKER_02 44:14

Right.

SPEAKER_00 44:15

And the thing that says, come check, get your lug nuts checked after 50 miles of driving.

SPEAKER_02 44:22

Perfect. Is your air freshener? Is your air freshener the little fine line logo? That thing's cool.

SPEAKER_01 44:29

Of course.

SPEAKER_02 44:30

Is it really?

SPEAKER_01 44:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 44:32

Okay, so I'm I'm gonna ask for one of those.

SPEAKER_00 44:36

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 44:37

It's in the mail.

SPEAKER_00 44:39

It should be there in a year, right? I mean, if the mail doesn't lose it again.

SPEAKER_02 44:46

Oh, I love it. Okay, I I'm not cutting you off. What else do you got?

SPEAKER_00 44:53

Um, well, I don't know. Just uh I I'm trying to bleed my brakes on this car, and I'm just doing it by gravity, and the fluid doesn't want to come out.

SPEAKER_02 45:06

Right. Okay, so I'm sitting sitting here. I'm gonna I'm gonna wrap this up. This episode was edited and produced by Daisy Media, and thank you for listening. Good night.