Embrace The Great

Giving More Than You Get — Boundaries, Brotherhood & Life After 40 (with Demario “Chunky” Brown)

Embrace The Great Season 1 Episode 11

SShawn and Dominique sit down with longtime friend Demario “Chunky” Brown for a real conversation about what it means to pour out more love than you receive. From being the first to check on people to navigating loneliness, they wrestle with when generosity becomes people-pleasing—and how “being selfish” is really setting boundaries. The crew swaps stories on brotherhood, mental health, and that over-40 life: the “shouldn’ts” (arguing on social media, chasing validation, clinging to toxic ties), the debates (extreme sports, starting a music career), and the must-dos (health checks, vitamins, reading, protecting your peace). Honest, reflective, and funny—this episode plants seeds about character, community, and choosing what truly matters.


SPEAKER_00:

Welcome to this week's episode of Embrace the Great Podcast with your host Sean Ellerby and Dominique Mojo. And there we have one of our boys and here special guest, man, Mr. Demario Brown. Aka, what's up? AKA Chunky in the building. As we start off every show, man, I always ask, man, what's on y'all mind, man?

SPEAKER_03:

Uh not a whole lot, man. Been battling this weather, still up and down, but we're gonna be all right. We will be all right.

SPEAKER_00:

Chunky, welcome to the studio, man. What's going on with you? I can't call it.

SPEAKER_03:

Call it.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay. Um any topics you got for us today, Dominique? I know you come with some, but I got a couple of things I'm gonna hear.

SPEAKER_03:

I got uh a few things that uh been personally on my mind and thinking about as of late, man. And I guess this would be a good question. How how often do y'all feel I I'm gonna back up? Do you feel you give more love than you receive?

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, for sure. That but my personal opinion, that comes with being a man. Like in that's in every family that I've seen that has a two-parent household, you know, even No, no, no.

SPEAKER_03:

Don't think outside of your family. Think about your friends, your co-workers, um even just you riding down the street. If you at if you drive down the street, you stop at a light, would you give a a friendly nod to the person next to you?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, but yeah. I think again, I think it just comes with being a man, man, no matter what. Like, I I've always given more love than I felt like I received. And and the crazy part, over the years I learned to appreciate different things. So the love, it looks different. And love looks different to different people. That's what I'm understanding and learning.

SPEAKER_03:

So, what about what about you? Or do you uh Chucky, do you feel like you give more, you don't give as much, you give what's given?

SPEAKER_02:

To me, I basically give more than I receive.

SPEAKER_03:

So, but I I I found out basically if you ask the majority of people that question, they're gonna say yeah. So it's it's a lot of things, different things that you know I just observed. Um basically I feel like, and it's no no knock, I feel like I've always been a generous guy. I don't look for favor in return or that sort of thing. Um just just why do we as a society, and I say because I feel like it's more good good than bad in the world, why do we as a society do for people when you know they wouldn't do the same for you?

SPEAKER_00:

With me, it ain't about the person, it's about the calling that I was given. Because if I'm putting a situation in a space where I can help, 99% of the time I try to. That 1% you had to do me dirty in some way, shape, or form to make me not want to do it. I'm not gonna get in your way, but I'm gonna just stand on the side and let things happen. But for the most part, man, it just comes with the territory.

SPEAKER_03:

So so you ever you you never been in a situation to help. And like, nah, I ain't doing that. Like just for a particular person because you know what type of person they are.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, somebody stole from me. They um, and matter of fact, their family members asked me for something. Like some somebody close to them asked, and I just I ignored it. I didn't uh address it, didn't do anything, but you know, especially when again you're generous to people. And again, I'm I don't want to say like I'm just giving away everything, but people who know me know I don't look, and I think it comes from growing up in the house with seven people. We learn to share. So I don't mind sharing.

SPEAKER_03:

So so what point do you and I say that because I don't know, I I don't like to give myself props or credit for nothing. I don't, I that's just not, I don't think a person should, I'm not a boastful person. Um but lately I've been feeling at a crossroads to where I gotta stop. I gotta stop being more selfish thinking about my own self. When it comes to not I'm not talking about my kids, nothing like that, but just people in general. Like I gotta I gotta stop being the first to say good morning. I gotta I gotta I gotta stop being the first, or not the first. I gotta stop being the only one to reaching out and say, hey man, how you doing? What's up with you? What's been going on?

SPEAKER_01:

Okay.

SPEAKER_03:

I gotta, I gotta, uh, and this is the fifth go around. I don't know if nobody ever noticed. I got a timer. You see it on my on my phone? Yeah. This is the fifth, no, this is the seventh to go around. So I think it's been about eight weeks, seven, eight weeks. And that time I never told nobody this. I got it's a timer on my phone. When the last time somebody just called me to say what's up. And so sometimes, like when you going through like a dark time, or you feel like, I don't know, just you know, you just at home chilling, whatever the case may be, and you have thoughts in your mind, stuff like that. And then sometimes you might look at your phone and be like, I ain't talking to nobody all day. Or so right now it's just me and my youngest son live together. On the weekends, he quarantined off in his room, playing a video game, on the phone with his friends. I'm in the living room, whatever, whatever. We can go, it could be go a whole day, no noise in the house. Like, you know, just because you know, he'll go to the refrigerator or whatever the case may be, or he'll stop, look at a game that I'm looking at, run back in his room. And one day I was just like, bruh, I ain't talked to nobody. I ain't open my mouth all day. Like, you know what I mean? I look forward to those days. So that just kind of got me to thinking, like, dang. Now, you know, your parents call a text, you know, or something like that. But I sat and thought, like, oh, when's the last time somebody actually just called me to say what's up?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, and I can't and I couldn't think. You know what I mean? Yeah, and and a lot of times right now, again, and it's gonna go back to what I'm saying, being over 40, most things are done with a purpose. You know what I'm saying? So if I call somebody, nine times out of ten, it's a purpose, and again, if um, and I have my moments, and I want to say depression, but moments when I want to be alone. Like I'm just quiet in the corner by myself, getting my thoughts together, everything else. And I don't expect people to call me just to check up, because again, it's one of those things, as you know, where I would put it, I'm always checking on people, and not necessarily saying checking on them, because again, this mental health thing is a big thing, and I'm seeing a lot of suicides and it's like making me want to reach out more to people, but at the same time, it's like, when do you find time in the day? And I think what you're referring to is people prioritizing different stuff as they get older. Um, and it's not a good or bad thing, but it's one of those things, and it's kind of hit what I want to talk about on this list that I got things we should do, what things we should not be doing after 40, and things that we should be doing after 40. But just to continue on this conversation, I can't think of the last time somebody called you to say how I'm doing it if it ain't attached to something.

SPEAKER_02:

Right.

SPEAKER_00:

I need something, this, I need you to do this, or can you do this? Do you know this? Can you help with this? You know, I don't mind, because again, that's in and as I get older, again.

SPEAKER_03:

But when but when you're going through a certain time, it's like it'd be nice for, you know, and not that you reached out and told somebody you was going through something, but see, I think that's the part of it. But and I and I tell, you know, I I I guess because, and that goes back to what I said in the beginning. I like I could just be driving down the street, man, and and I laugh about something that happened 30 years ago. And I'll call that person. I ain't talked to them in three months. I'll call them, man, what's up with you, man? What you what you up to? And then what's up? And you could feel that person waiting on the I guess the punchline. Yeah. I'm like, nah, man, I'm just calling to say what's up, man. You know, and we just start laughing about something, you know.

SPEAKER_00:

And it's like, damn, I never get them phone calls. And I've done that.

SPEAKER_03:

You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00:

I've done that to call people just to say, I just want to hear your voice. And sometimes that's crazy, but it's like, I just say that so they'll know I ain't want nothing in front of a conversation. And then just saying that sometimes people will open up. And and it's a gift, and the I don't want to call it a curse, it's a gift. People tend to open up to me, and I don't mind. Um, because again, I feel like I'm helping others, but sometimes when their issues are heavy, that's something else I got to wear too. Because I'm one of those people, man, if I'm I'm with you, I'm with you. If we in the trends, we in the trends. Y'all know me. If y'all call my name and I can help in any way, shape, or form, I'm there. But then sometimes, and again, like you say, those moments of loneliness, you know, what do I do in those? And I started reading more. I started reading and meditating a little bit more than I used to. And again, it's one of those things it's getting older where before I constantly had to be around people. Now I go to work, you know, I say social battery. My social battery goes up and down. Most of the time it's charged, but every now and then I need to be isolated. And I like that isolation because I don't get it often. I laugh and joke because I go home on my lunch break. And somebody, why you go home on your lunch break? I don't go home to cook or nothing, but that's the only time I get in my house where I'm by myself. A house that I pay for and everything else. That's the only time I get by myself. So, so Chunky, you I know you got how many brothers and sisters you got?

SPEAKER_03:

I know you gotta like start thinking.

SPEAKER_02:

Four on my dad's side and two on my mom's side and two sisters.

SPEAKER_03:

So how often, and I've always that was that was one thing that I kind of wish. I ain't gonna say wish I had, but I I I like pe to see people with a lot of brothers and sisters, basically. So how often do you and your brothers or you and your sisters just get together as just a family, just hey man, what you doing? I'm about to pull up. And and then it turned into a party just off of just about every weekend. I talk to my brother every day.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, right, right, right, right. So and then I talk to my sister too. So I I got real close with her more because my other my sister, my other sister had passed away from cancer. So then she got a pacemaker, so I try to try to stay close and stay strong and keep her keep her strong and communicate with her.

SPEAKER_03:

And and I think that's big, man. I think um like me and my sister, we we're close, but like when a situation arises, that's what pulls us together. Because me and my sister are eight years apart. So, you know, I was the only child for eight years. So when my sister came along, you know, I had I was already me, so to speak. You know what I mean? I had developed my personality. But when she was born, it was like, okay, it's my responsibility to take care of her. And it's still our relationship still to this day, is like we don't talk every day, but like, like at a family function, like I'm the only one that can tell her to chill. Or you know what I'm saying? Or I'm the only one that can like yo, all right, now me and her joking on each other, but that ain't you, you know what I mean? And I I've seen her do that the other way around. So it's like sometimes you got that bond without even saying you have one, basically, or showing you have one every day. So um, you know, that was just something that I thought of, man. Uh, you know, people do a lot of things for different people, and it's like, you know, I know this person wouldn't do that for me, but I ain't tripping. You know what I'm saying? But as you get older, it's just like sometimes, sometimes you gotta, you know, I've learned sometimes you gotta be selfish. And that's that's so hard for me to do, is be selfish. It's not called being selfish, it's called setting boundaries. Right. But I mean, that's a tough thing for me to do. I I've I've done things, I've I've I've done things for other people and their kids. And then if I see this person, they wouldn't even look at my kid and say, hey. You know what I mean? That sort of thing. So that that sort of thing plays back in your mind as you get older.

SPEAKER_00:

It's like it does, but from my perspective, it ain't, it's you did what you were were supposed to do in a situation, and even though it may not get the fruits from that particular situation, no telling what's gonna come back on the other side. That's 100% true. And that's why I always like I look at it as planting seeds. I always you hear me say that a whole lot. I plant seeds and some plants grow high, some don't grow at all, some die.

SPEAKER_03:

It'll take forever for the fruit to drop.

SPEAKER_00:

Exactly. That's what I mean. Like, and when I do stuff, man, I promise that as I got older, even younger, I didn't do it for uh people to come say something for me. It's like if it comes back, it comes back. If it don't, it don't. And then two, and my I'm gonna talk about my wife for a second, because she asked me something one time. Um, why don't why don't I get upset at certain things? And I and I would tell her, look, it might be karma for something I did in the past, so I don't look at it from that standpoint. It might have been small, like my house got broken into a couple of small things were stolen. This was years ago, probably eight, nine years ago. I remember that. But um, my wife, why you get upset? Because I man, I never stole from people. Let me put that out. I never stole from people. But I had I I used to have a little sticky fingers back in the day when it comes to grocery stores, cruise ships, all kind of stuff. So it's like when stuff happens, like that's my payback for that. Nothing malicious, but at the same time, okay, you know, you you know better, you do better.

unknown:

Yeah. Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_03:

That's that's definitely big, man. It's something that I've been battling with, man, for about three weeks, man. And it's like, you know, I've and and and again, not that I never do a favor looking for something in return.

SPEAKER_00:

If somebody said that I did, you lying, but it's like, dang, I, you know, I know what it's you and I know what we it's like it was more to it. It was like I did way more for you than anybody else, and I'm not getting half of what I gave back. Yeah, we only return on the investment.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, we only humans, so sometimes things come up and it's like, wow. You know, but put me in the same situation, I do it again. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00:

So and that's the whole thing, man. Your character is what it looks like when nobody is watching. And I try to make sure I'm good with when it comes to that, man. Learn it from Allie E. Brooks. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, knowledge, skills, character. You know, I still care those words, those I three words, watch words at Wilts. And I promise you, I still listen to them and walk with them.

SPEAKER_03:

That was one of the things that that was one of the things looming on my mind heavy for about the past week or so.

SPEAKER_00:

So okay. Well, you know, I mentioned it earlier, man. Let's let's get into this, man. And I'm gonna ask the question, and and you know, being everybody, you know, that's on this podcast right now is over 40 years old, what are some things that you think you should no longer be doing after 40? And I I got a list and I can say agree or disagree, and I I'll do it like that to make it. We can talk about each one if you want to. But um, the first one, after 40, you should not be attempting extreme sports. You agree or disagree?

SPEAKER_03:

I mean, it's objective though. It's subjective. Because if you grew up doing that and you still in shape to do it, I'm I'm all for it. Like biking, that's what you mean. Stuff like biking and streaming.

SPEAKER_00:

Extreme sports. I'm thinking skateboarding. I'm not jumping on a skateboard right now.

SPEAKER_03:

But yeah, but not skateboard, but people like biking, like riding bikes on the mountain, that's extreme sports. I know a lot of people, well, I can say a lot. I know some people that do it. I want some of that.

SPEAKER_00:

I pass on extreme. I just do a little simple stuff, but I pass on the extreme. I think that's objective, man. I think that's objective.

SPEAKER_03:

Depending on if you in shape enough to do that.

SPEAKER_00:

I feel you. Pull an all-nighter. I don't agree with that. Uh let me ask a question. When's the last time y'all pull an all-nighter? Every October. Homecoming. That mind revolves around homecoming well. So I don't agree with that. Okay, discuss your problems on social media. After 40, should you be addressing your problems on social media? Again, it's subjective, but for me, it's a hell no. Nah. I agree. Yeah, I mean, I agree that we should not do anything like that on social media, man. I say problems, you know. And everybody got problems.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay, to that point, discussing this one. I saw a post today, matter of fact, where I don't know, I don't know if it was somebody, something pertaining to a school district around here, and they posted, hey, what's the purpose of posting problems with the school district on the website when you don't come to PTA meetings, when you don't vote on things, etc. etc. And then there was a whole debate under under that post under the comments, like, well, this is my page. Social media is for that purpose. I s and I say they're missing the point of the post. Yeah. Like, come to the you saying whatever you need to say on social media is not getting the problem resolved, is the reason for the post. Correct. Not you can't post that on your page.

SPEAKER_00:

So hey, this and next one. Start a career in music. In other words, you shouldn't be no 40.

SPEAKER_03:

That should be your primary.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Look, if that's a hobby, it'd be a hobby. You shouldn't be starting a career in music after 40, man. I I kind of agree with that one. I mixed it. Okay, and they say you should never stop laughing after 40, man. They say you find more stuff funny after 40. Y'all agree or disagree? You find more stuff funny after 40, you damn right.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh yeah. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Way more. Way more. And I think it's a unique perspective, man. I always laugh at that, but yeah. Um, chasing external validation.

SPEAKER_03:

I don't think you should do that. Under 40, over 40.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, but man, look, this this new age, that's what they look for. And I think a lot of it because that's the age they're born in. That's what they see. Like, I think people over 40 don't necessarily need social media. And I say it's good to enhance, but we live the life without social media beforehand. So I'm pretty sure uh I know a lot of people that's not on social media live again outstanding lives. So I I I I won't say I agree. Well, I don't I I agree we shouldn't be chasing external validation.

SPEAKER_03:

I don't think nobody should. Yeah. I mean, I uh okay. You put it like that, no. It depends. Define external validation. Yeah. Are you doing something to impress your parents? Or you know, I know that ain't what you meant, but yeah, you say it, that's all it said. You take it where you want to go with it. I mean, depending on the external crowd talking about.

SPEAKER_00:

I think I'm the more older I get, the less I care about what the crowd thinks. It's more so, okay, how can we affect certain stuff? I'm thinking I've always been like I'm trying to get the root cause of stuff. Okay, what caused this? And how can we combat it or whatever the case may be? Um, the next one, people pleasing.

SPEAKER_01:

That's the same thing.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Well, external validation of people pleasing and two different certain people try to please certain people. Like I see people kiss ass, and I I can that would never be in my DNA. Like, I respect people for who they are. I don't care how high you get from the president all the way down to a crackhead. I'm still gonna show simple respect, but I ain't I can't kiss no behind, man. And I think that's part of it. So look, there's I had this conversation.

SPEAKER_03:

What is they? Wednesday, like Sunday. There are levels to kiss it ass.

SPEAKER_04:

So, you know.

SPEAKER_03:

People might think, okay, let's say you got something going on at your job. I'll just use the job as an example. Somebody come in and you just want to spark up a conversation. So you try to find a common ground, and it's like you you bring up that conversation just because that person is there. That could be a form of kissing ass. That's not like flirting. No, no, no. I mean, I'm just saying, if it was another man, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, but I it's one of those, again, I know in even within my job, man, I got some people that do some high-up stuff and everything else, but you know, it's always been a simple respect thing to me. And I think I'm talking about a previous job. One job, um, it's around the corner from here, but that's what we're gonna talk about. But I was working and the manager, older guy, just came out and slammed, just started telling me off.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

And I'm like, and I looked at him. I ain't say nothing, I just looked at him crazy because we was on the floor and a bunch of people was there, so I had to be conscious, Sean, you can't respond the way you want to respond. So I went back, I ain't say nothing. As soon as five o'clock hit, everybody else left. I walked straight into his office. I was like, look, first and foremost, man, I know your position is higher than mine, but first we're gonna leave with respect. I never raised my voice to you, I never disrespected you. And he went straight to up. Um Sean, you're right. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I shouldn't have done it. I I was upset. I and you were the first person that said something. I should not have taken it out on you. But it was like at that point, and then like I know I could have gone in there and got fired because he he was a manager, my not my not my direct manager, yeah. But I kind of went at him like, you're not gonna talk to me in the kind of way. Very respectful. I I was stern but respectful, professional. I say professional, I wouldn't say um whatever, but I think about stuff like that. I can't, I I just it ain't in me. And I and I know where it comes from, but it's just not in me.

SPEAKER_03:

I've had jobs, and you know, uh the director, general manager might come and everybody such and such, yeah. What are you telling me for? Well, yeah, let me shake his hands and shit. Okay, and if I pass him, what's up? And then they come here, wow, you were you had a conversation with him as a man just like me. There you go.

SPEAKER_00:

I put my I put my pants leg on one leg at a time like everybody else. So I it's just a respect thing. I just I'm not, you know, and again, I can admire and respect people for what they do, but just to go kiss ass, that that would never be me. Kiss my ass. And I I agree with the next one too, ignoring your health. And as a 40-year-old something, I I start paying way more attention to where I got my doctor's appointments, take my vitamins. You can't do it. You can't. I I man, you know what?

SPEAKER_03:

I'm as a I ain't gonna say as a man, I'm gonna just say me personally. Something is wrong when you think the worst automatic, and then you go to the doctor and it don't even be what the hell you think. And that's that's what I've been uh faced with the last few years. Like I've since COVID, I've developed a cough. And I've been to the doctor three times for it. So the the fourth time I went to a specialist, and like, you know, they did all the scanning, and I'm thinking, and it was nothing. It was like, yeah, we ain't see nothing on your lungs, your heart, none of that. Yeah, you might have developed that cough from COVID and ain't never gonna went away. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

But yeah, I was making uh a conscious effort to be more going to my doctor more at one, not just going to let them check up, but telling them what's wrong. I think a lot of times we don't do that, we just want to go ahead and get it over with. But now I go tell them what's wrong. Check this out, because I told him I had back issues, and he was like, Man, you just take some hyperprofil. I'm like, no, something wrong. He was like, You want to get the x-ray? I'm like, yeah, come to find out my bottom of my back curved. Now I had to go to a specialist in Charleston to get shots to blockage is what they call it to avoid surgery. And it's like one of those things that can get worse, but it if you maintain and monitor, it'd be good. But if I didn't say I wanted the x-ray, that doctor would have never said anything, and I could have been walking around probably worse often than what I was. So it's like I challenge men, all men over 40, or any men who go into the doctor, man, tell them what's wrong with you, tell them what's going on with you, and ask questions and make them do follow-up stuff. We're gonna pay for it anyway, so you know, might as well get everything done.

unknown:

That's right.

SPEAKER_00:

Um, the next, what do you think on that, Chunky?

SPEAKER_02:

Well, me. What I do mostly, I take I take a lot of vitamins and I mean to the C MOSS and all that. So C MOSS and beetroot. I hesitate.

SPEAKER_03:

I hesitate to do that damn vitamin D. I don't get it. I guess it because I work inside and all that, but yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

And then I I what I did add to my I um chlorophyll, I put a drop of that in my I drink that every morning and drink that before I go to bed.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, so okay, we I got my C Moss tablets and I got my beet root.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, but this is a uh uh fast face. We we boys.

SPEAKER_00:

Has your manhood been challenged yet? Not at all. And look, being honest though, being honest, taking them little C MOSS and them beat roots, it kind of give you a little more than what you're looking for. I'll put it like that. You know, I ain't I I I have yet to be on the decline.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, you know, yeah. I'm not looking forward to that day.

SPEAKER_00:

I'm not. This one right here, too. Living in the past, something you shouldn't do after 40.

unknown:

That's tough.

SPEAKER_00:

How y'all feel? That's tough. How y'all feel? I know that was gonna be one less year at this one.

SPEAKER_03:

I I almost, I mean, if we if I'm sticking to answering the questions, I'm gonna say disagree. I'm gonna say disagree. And why you disagree? Because you can't help it. You can't freaking help it. It's like you don't want to. And now if you're saying living in the past or you still go into your high school games, talking about what you used to be, and all that, okay, stop.

SPEAKER_00:

We get a lot of that. I get a lot of whole, and I try to shy away from those conversations. Even when people talking about me, Sean. Man, that was old, that was then. I I like to dismiss it, but not, you know, you know, I respect that you said something about it, but I that ain't where I live at now. That that was then.

SPEAKER_03:

It's cool to have them conversations, you know. You and your boys get up and you know, you laugh because somebody ran your ass over or something back here. You know, something like that. Okay. But when you out here really living like uh you still should do this or you still mad at your high school coach because of this, and like, come on, dog.

SPEAKER_00:

Nah, some people look at it a comparison. Man, I'm still better than that. I mean, let it go. Like, your time was your time. If you enjoyed it, you enjoyed it. But I I promise you, anybody talking about anything I've done in high school, I I will say I don't care. Personally, I don't care. It's respected, but it's like that was then. Let's talk about what's going on now. Can you, what's what you got going on now? What you know, this is these are the things that I have going on now, and that's way more relevant, you know, to me. So part of this I agree with. Like a part of this a wholeheartedly living in the past, I wholeheartedly agree with. Yeah, it just depends on which way you spend. Okay, this one's you know, brainer holding on the toxic relationship. That should be easy to get rid of now after 40. Leave that alone, let that go. Okay, procrastinating on what you want. Things you should stop doing after 40. You should no longer be doing after 40. Stop procrastinating. And I kind of agree with that one because they know telling how much time we got left. You shouldn't be doing it at all. It happens. And look, procrastination was my middle name. I have a paper due. I'm starting the night before. Like I always did everything last minute today, and it still affects my life to today. I'm really, you know, you ask me, I'm gonna be five minutes early or five minutes late, I'm gonna try to be right on time.

SPEAKER_03:

I never. I mean certain things, but I mean you you I I've had this conversation recently too, where I know somebody that wants to do something in a field. She's in a good field now where she how where she works, but she feels like she wants to do something else. But she's dragging her feet on doing it because of other situations, I should say.

SPEAKER_00:

It's the lead. Everybody's scared of that leap. But then one thing I read, most millionaires are made in their 40s, and a lot of times they're leaving a job they had forever or doing something they wanted to do, but didn't have the courage to do, and because of, you know, raising different things going on. You got bills and responsibilities. So I don't I I think procrastinate on what you want, you shouldn't be doing, but I get it. But at this time now, like if I want something, I'm I'm actually going at it now.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, I feel the same way too.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay, working a job you hate. After 40, you should no longer be doing. Disagree. Disagree? Yeah. I mean, look, and I get the disagree part because you got to pay bills.

SPEAKER_03:

Well, 40 years old, what 40 year old, you know that it is. I mean, I ain't gonna say hate their job, but oh, I mean, I don't want to say love their job, but wouldn't rather be doing something else other than what their job is. I'm tired of working, man. I'm looking forward to retirement myself. 40 year old, you know, rather wouldn't be doing something else.

SPEAKER_00:

Nah, but I I don't I never hated a job I had. And like I can dislike it, but I never hated it because again, I can't forward thinking. I know I understand what the job purpose is. The job purpose is to help me pay bills. And if they're doing that, then I ain't gonna hate you because again, you're helping me.

SPEAKER_03:

I can't say I've I can't say I've ever hated a job. Like, I ain't want to be here some days.

SPEAKER_00:

Say a strong dislike.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay, um, wasting money on superficial things, things you should not no longer doing after 40.

unknown:

Yeah, I agree.

SPEAKER_00:

I agree with that. I agree too, man. Look, I I I got out of the sneakers and everything because I buy one pair of sneakers probably every two or three years. And then at one point, I buy sneakers every two or three weeks. And I'm just thankful, you know, somebody came and told talked to me and was like, man, look, instead of you buying all them shoes, and you buy them Jordans and all this other stuff. You ever thought about putting in Jordan's stock? I don't think Jordan got no stock. Well, Nike got a stock and they're getting paid for the shoes that other people are buying. So think about it from that standpoint. Everybody's gonna be a producer and a consumer. Which side are you on? And most of the things you say, most people are all almost 99% consumers, they don't produce anything. And it made me think about it like he wasn't lying. You a seller, you a buy a pee.

SPEAKER_03:

Y'all remember that? Okay. You a seller, you a buy a peep. And it really boiled down to that. Commerce.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay, ignoring mental wellness. That was the last one.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, I agree with that.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. That mental health something serious, man. And like I said, when I see somebody and I see kids committing suicide, and it's like we hear the term mentally tough. I think sports help a lot with that. But in that same breath, because it, I mean, sports teach you how to deal with adversity. And I think that's one of the biggest things that sports can teach you how to deal with adversity. That's right. Things are out of your control and you know, work ethic.

SPEAKER_03:

That's why I hear when sports and politics mixed. Because now I don't have an out.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Now I don't have an out.

SPEAKER_00:

Or whatever. You know what I mean? I got you. So that was the end of that list, man. So, and say what things you should not be doing. This is the thing, things that we should be doing after 40. Um, number one, eating a healthy diet. I'm pretty sure everybody agrees with that. Now everybody'll do it. That's one thing. But I've been doing way better, man. Like, and I I feel different. I'm I'm thankful. Man, I had a salad today. Um, get enough sleep. Huh? Go ahead. I ain't had no salad, but so don't get me wrong, I get oxtails once a week. Uh I probably I do myself fried chicken probably once a week, and I get a burger once a week, and it'd be different spots, but then I'm trying to do better, so I've been cutting down, um, especially on portions. Um, number two, what should we be doing after four to get enough sleep? And I can say I sleep way more now than I did when I was younger. I'm in bed by like 12, up by 6:30, 7 o'clock, that six and a half hour when I was younger. I was getting three, four, five hours and was good. I've always, I've always I don't care.

SPEAKER_03:

People, when I tell people, nah bro, I gotta go go to sleep, take me a nap. People, I don't know what a nap is. Hey, that's your problem. I'm I'm one of them people. I ain't know what a nap was. I take me a nap. I I sleep when I damn that. Sleep when you die. Nope. Yeah, that's how I felt. That's how I felt. And I give me some good rest now. I don't believe in that. I believe in rest. I believe in it. I truly believe I've always believed in rest.

SPEAKER_00:

Um focus on financial planning.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, we should.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, and then like maximizing retirement contributions and knowing where your money go. That's some of the things that were followed up in that. Um, and it said reflect and set attainable goals, what we should be doing. So, whatever goals we have in mind, man, and um the one goal I got right now really is to get my kids to adulthood. And all three of them. Like I got, we almost done. My daughter in own apartment driving, cool. I ain't really got to do too much, even though she's still used to the dependency. But you can tell she's branching off. Again, my son bought his own car in college currently on the track, and I got my my senior in high school that's close. But again, those are the that's the main goal of getting them out. And I'm saying 21. When they're 21, okay, now y'all officially adults. 18, yeah. They're considered adults, but it's that that 18 to 22 range is when I feel like you do the most learning as far as how to transition from being a child to an adult. So I'm trying to aid that that transition, and hopefully by four to five years old, they will be self-sufficient citizens in this world. What else we got left? Um traveling and exploring. And I I promise you I believe in that. Like the older I get now, the more look, I'm ready to go somewhere. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, that's true, but you still got to have the means to do it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Putting yourself in position, man. Like, look, work and I, you know, everything happened how it happened. That's how I look at it. But as this, and I could not travel like I wanted to, again, raising three young kids. You hear about stuff, like, man, I want to go, but I know I ain't gonna be able to swing it. I know I want to go, but I ain't gonna be able to swing it. And I said that for a lot of years, but now it's like, okay, now I can start doing traveling on my own. I was traveling before either with work or my fraternity, but not necessarily personal traveling. You know, when I say that, I ain't never traveled nowhere outside of four hours. Well, I did in Maryland one time on a personal thing, but most of the stuff was like close. But that's one of the things I'm definitely planning on doing. Um, I'm looking at trying to head out for my birthday. That's what I'm thinking about. Um, this is big, and I think I know all three of us do this in our own way. Volunteering and giving back to the community. I think that's what a lot of people should be doing after 40. Now, is everybody doing that? Definitely not, but you know, I always I I've realized people have to get their life together, and it that's not necessarily a timeline. I know we like to say by age this, by age that, but everything happens at different and that and that was where I was standing on a lot of the things.

SPEAKER_03:

Like I I don't like putting time frames on when you should do stuff because it's all subjective.

SPEAKER_00:

Nah, it is, but it's a barometer. I mean I say, you know, because I think America just we're so competitive, and I say competitive in almost everything. It's always something versus something.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, exactly. And I I don't think, you know, what worked for you at 40 might not work for me at 40. You know what I mean? So uh that's just that's how I've always been, man.

SPEAKER_00:

You know. Hey, what should you be doing after 40? And this one tripped me out. Annual testicular exam. Y'all ain't got your nuts checked, man. At what level of nut checking are we talking about? Yeah, the doctor, man. I'm talking about the doctor.

SPEAKER_03:

I have, yeah, yeah, I have. Um 20, what is this, 25?

SPEAKER_00:

So it's been about four or five years. Yeah, I'm I'm I'm next doctor's appointment. I'm gonna go ahead and try to set up my colonoscopy. I'm not looking forward to, but you know, want to make sure everything's good.

SPEAKER_03:

You know what's crazy? Probably why I have it, because like I know my doctor. Like, you know what I'm saying? Being all invasive. Yeah, I kind of like know him outside of him being a doctor.

SPEAKER_00:

So it's like And see how I had to take a step back and look at doctors a little different, right? Because you know, we we get scared for certain stuff. We doctors you hospital, we don't necessarily want to go. But then somebody broke it down to me, like, man, you know how you go to the doctor and get stuff looked at. They do this every day at their job. Like, if somebody comes tell you your job, if you got to do okay, don't need you telling somebody to run V cuts. You do it every day at your job. So if somebody comes won't know how to run V cuts, you can tell them. Doctors do the same stuff every day, and they went to school for years to specialize in it, so it's like not trusting them is one thing, but then I like questioning because you can always tell a lot.

SPEAKER_03:

Or you telling them what's wrong with you when you go like all they gotta do a diet. What can I do for you today? Well, baby, I've been coughing it and lung. Oh yeah, you got this, that, the other.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Right your script, get out of here. Now they ain't always 100% right, but I'm just saying that you see it over and over again, that's how it goes. Um, and the last thing, and you talked about this and what in indirectly, but nurture relationships with family and friends. One of the things you should be doing after 40 is nurturing those relationships um with your family and friends. And I thought that was interesting. I definitely wholeheartedly agree with that one.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, and I think a big thing to that is so you know how like you might have older cousins or old or aunts and uncles, and you always got that one person that's still, let's say we we 40 and you got an aunt that let's say 65, but that aunt always looking at you like she's 20 and you two, three years old, or you're or she's 40 and you a teenager, you know what I'm saying? It's like, dog, what are we doing? So I think when you nurture those relationships, it's gotta be like, okay, my 65-year-old aunt gotta look at me like I'm 42.

SPEAKER_00:

Like a grown man. Yeah, like that. And I I I don't say had that conversation, but what I realize is that even the older women, quote unquote, in my family, they look at me like, yeah, you the man. You're supposed to be handling this because you're a man. So I, you know, at one point, and I talk about with my mama, you know, she will buy me alcohol on my birthday. Like she'll give me a bottle for my birthday, right? But for a long time, I would not drink around my mama. Like when she comes around, even if I pour up my drink, I put it on the floor. Yeah, I sit machine looking. Uh respect, yeah. I mean, this she comes to me with, like, boy, I buy you liquor. You 40-something years old, you a grown man. Who am I? I don't look at it as disrespect you being grown. I'm treating you like you grown. So I'm like, and it kind of changed how I look at stuff. Okay, cool. And then it's like it still felt funny the first couple of times, but you like, I know you do it, I didn't seen you do it, but you know, and I'm like, okay, I took a step back. But when I got that okay from my mama, yeah, but it's like everybody else, you know, but it's like you fall in line.

SPEAKER_03:

I've seen instances where, you know, a family member of mine is a certain age, but somebody's older is talking to them like, you need to do this, or why you doing this? Like, you can't tell them how to run their household. Like they didn't come for you there for advice. You can't, you're talking down on them. Yeah, and you wonder why this person don't mess with you no more, like, or don't like being around you like that. But that's setting those boundaries. Yeah. So it's got to be a two-way street when when nurturing those families type of things. But it's fun, man. When it's nothing like you and your family, everybody's there for a good time, everybody on the same page. And you can crack a joke there, and you know, and and the night is just good. It's nothing like that feeling, man.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh man, it's good old family time, and I get that feeling a lot, man. My wife, like I said, she got nine brothers and sisters, and she's the baby. And so now we got nieces and nephews that are grown with kids, and it's a whole different vibe when we have family functions, even though the number gets outrageous sometimes, but it's it's still a good time, you know what I'm saying, with different things going on. But also with very large families, there's always more room for conflict. Yeah, yeah. And that's always fun to navigate, man.

unknown:

Yeah, yep, yep.

SPEAKER_03:

Well, yeah, man, that was that was some good topics, man. Chunky, you want to touch on some stuff, man, before I dive back into uh probably about two more things, I gather.

SPEAKER_02:

Not really, but with my status growing up, it was kind of hard. You know, you know, when when we was in the 12th grade, my mom had passed away.

SPEAKER_00:

That kind of kinda kind of touched me kind of a little bit, but like if it wasn't for Miss Jackson, she didn't want to reach out and so you want to elaborate, like I wanted you to talk about that a little bit, man, because uh in me knowing the story, you lost both of your parents by the time you graduated high school, and Miss Jackson took you in, and and what was that experience like? What did you feel like you missed? What did you feel like you gained, and all that other stuff in between?

SPEAKER_03:

Hold on, before you do, go let's let's give Miss Jackson her props, talk about who Miss Jackson is.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, Miss Jackson, a great teacher.

SPEAKER_02:

Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead computer teacher, she flunked me. She flunked me and they tried to put me back in the class. I said, Oh no, oh no. But yeah, yeah, well, Miss Jackson, yeah, she's a sweet lady. Um, she did a lot for me. Took me in.

SPEAKER_00:

Hey man, look, I I got to talk about it, man. Look, I've only been in one fashion show in my whole life, and that was because Miss Jackson had us do a fashion show at JC Penney. I'm talking, gonna date us a little bit. We in high school, and she tell us you she I was she working at JC Penny at the time, and they had a whole fashion show. She got a few of the high school kids to come out there and actually be models, man. She actually don't know. She gave me a whole lot of confidence that they just walk around modeling different suits that JC Penny had to offer, man. I would never forget that. And as crazy as it is, I still got that picture hanging up in my house, and you know I know you've seen it.

SPEAKER_03:

So what you were saying, you know, she kind of took you in as far as uh I guess I guess your living situation is all right.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, you know, I always wanted to stay a tiger because if I'd have if I'd have moved, I'd have moved with my sister over there in South Florence, and then I'd have gone to South Florence.

SPEAKER_03:

So you want to stay great with the tigers. So that was, I mean, just I I mean, I guess we always knew your experience with that. I mean, you were still able to do uh, you know, the things that I guess we always did as teenagers as far as hanging out, that sort of stuff. But was it something like I guess living with her that kind of you you take as far as your family now or whatever the case may be, or because I was coming from a single parent home, coming into uh a household with two parents in it, it was kind of hard.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. And then I had to change, you know what I'm saying? Cause I always had a mother figure there, and then when now having a father figure there teaching me stuff and doing stuff, I learned a lot from him.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay, all right. Well, yeah, man, that's that's definitely uh a testament, I I think to who you are, man. It was, you know, I I remember that, you know, that whole situation going it, it was going into our scene. Yeah, yeah, man. And that was, you know, we knew that was tough. And even though you, you know, you had a lot of brothers and sisters, you know what's funny? Not funny, but yeah, I guess it was. I remember what the day it happened, right? And we all went over to the house, and we stayed there for a long time, and you never showed up. But the thing was, nobody got mad because everybody said, Man, that's chunky, man. That's that's him.

SPEAKER_02:

So I appreciate y'all boys.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, man. Yeah, that's that's big, bro. Oh, for sure. Um, but just the uh two things I got before I get into my pick sixes. Something funny that happened to me. Um, so recently, what about a month ago, right? Everybody know Malcolm Jamal Warner passed away. And a lot of people know Malcolm Jamal Warner as Theo. So uh it was something that happened, and somebody was explaining to me. I'm not gonna say the name because it's in here, it's is in the the five that I got. And they was like, um, you know the lady such and such. I'm like, man, I don't know who that is. And then they named the TV show she played on. And I'm like, oh, I didn't know that was her name. Okay. So it made me think I got five people. I won't see if y'all, I'm gonna call out their name, their government name, or their, you know, and I'm gonna see if y'all know what was the rule, the famous rule that they're known for. Okay. All right. First one. And and this this first one is is kind of a tough one, but not really if you if you follow what this person is known for. Uh Robin quivers. Robin quivers?

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Robin quivers. I know um Rihanna name Robin. It's Robin something else. Not Robin. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03:

You know, don't think man, don't think current, think entertainment altogether. Robin. Robin quivers.

SPEAKER_00:

Robin quivers.

SPEAKER_03:

TV show? Uh it could be. No, it's she's not from a TV show. Okay. Yeah, I have no clue.

SPEAKER_00:

You know, Chunky.

SPEAKER_02:

Robin Quivers.

SPEAKER_00:

No, I never heard of that name. No. But I'm pretty sure it's gonna be somebody coming. Uh I mean, not really.

SPEAKER_03:

That's the black lady that's always with Howard Stern. Oh, okay. Robin. Yeah, I never know the last name. I used to be Robin. All right. And this was the one I was talking about right here. Uh, Angela Lanceberry. Murder She Rolled. I remember Murder She Roll. The little white lady of Murder.

SPEAKER_00:

I used to watch that with my grandma.

SPEAKER_03:

I was I was I was watching First Prince of Belletta. And remember the little joint, something happened. And he was like, This way, we need that little white lady from Murder. She wrote.

SPEAKER_00:

I'm like, what is her name?

SPEAKER_03:

All right.

SPEAKER_00:

Donald Knott. Donald Knott's at Born in Fife. Yeah. Yeah, this man. I know this grandma. I watch all these shows. Now you get this stuff I know. I'm good. All right. Paul Rubens. Paul Rubens. Paul Rubens. That's um um um um I know that one. That ain't step-by-step. Check it. Paul Rubens, Paul Rubens, that older. Paul Rubens. I don't know. I didn't like I feel like I know him because I heard that name, but it's like uh where I'm missing it at. Pee Wee Herman. Okay. I heard I know about name. Uh last one, Helen Martin.

SPEAKER_01:

Helen, Helen Martin, Helen Martin, Helen Martin. Helen Martin. I have no dude, no idea. Got no idea.

SPEAKER_03:

Helen Martin done played everybody's jab grandma, the little 227. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

I ain't never known Helen. She's in all the movies, OG.

SPEAKER_03:

She's somebody grandma in the movie. She had some cameos on good times. All that, man. But yeah, that's don't be a menace and you're cutting up in that one. Yeah. I got a little arthritis, he would trigger fingers. All right, man, man. But that was just, you know, some things that came across my mind, man. And uh, I thought that would have been dope. Just to kind of look up some people like that are known for famous rules, but don't nobody know what they're doing. Man, look, there's a bunch of people I can look at their face and don't know their name worth worth than that. Yeah, man. Alright, man. So I'm gonna get into my pick six. I know it's gonna be a little bit dope because I got we got chunky here, so we got two different perspectives. Alright, I'm gonna go with the uh I'm gonna go with the the questions first, kind of put it out there. I'm gonna I think I I might throw in a little bonus for today. Alright. First one, what actor or actress do you just hate because of a role of a movie in the movie they played?

SPEAKER_00:

Um who did I hate for a role that they played? Who I couldn't stand. I'm trying to think about who I couldn't stand. Um oh man, um Michael Ely and with the for Colored Girls.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

When he threw them kids off, that would have went, I couldn't stand him for that one. But I ain't, you know, other roles he was good, but that particular role, I like looking at a dude like, man, look, no, he threw them kids off that, yeah, off that chair.

SPEAKER_03:

You know who I just think uh I don't and this uh I could have threw him in this that other segment I had, but who I just think he's corny just because buddy that played oldest in the temptation. Because he oldest. I don't like him. I don't like him in nothing he played. That's the crazy thing. You like oldest at all? Uh I don't like him in nothing he played. I can't think of his real name. I don't know what he's doing. I don't know his real name. All right.

SPEAKER_00:

Memorable a memorable TV commercial you remember growing up. Um that Nike commercial with everybody started dribbling. Oh, yeah, that was we was in college, yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, that the one I remember. Like Mike. Sometimes I see. Yeah, that was one of mine. Um Be Light Mike and the Toys of Us. I don't want to grow up. That was another one of mine, stuff. All right. Alright, so I'm gonna get y'all on this one. Your first time. Was it a horror movie or an instant classic? Oh man, when I say is a horror movie or instant classic. I go for me, it was a instant classic. Now for the uh consensual party probably been a horror story.

SPEAKER_00:

Mine was uh mine might be a comedy. And I'm gonna be leaving that there. It might be a comedy. If I tell that story, yeah, people might start laughing. Yeah, but it was yeah, I mean I can talk it.

SPEAKER_03:

I I say it was uh go ahead. I'm gonna let I'm gonna let Chunky answer first. I'm gonna say mine. No, I say instant classy. Mine was an instant classic. That's a little press for time. Mine was a comedy. When I say instant, that's what I mean. Like the rice. Yeah. All right. Uh what's your ideal way to spend your birthday?

SPEAKER_00:

Um, right now traveling. Yeah. It used to be like family and friends, but now like I want to get away just to relax, enjoy being me.

SPEAKER_03:

I think I I I've always liked to be around people, my my closest friends, and we just doing whatever. It ain't had to be nothing spectacular. I just I don't like, I ain't gonna say I don't like because that's their preference, but I don't I hate when people say my birthday just another day. Like, no, celebrate yourself for once. And I think that's the time to do it.

SPEAKER_00:

And see, it sounds good because again, I want the people, I did not, I ain't gonna say celebrate them, but I told you why. And then that 14th birthday party when they bought that pizza party from Wendy's. I ain't been right since. So I celebrate my birthday until I start. I can like I got 21, and after that was just milestones. But other than that, it'd just be a regular day. I get the day off work because it's it's Veterans Day.

SPEAKER_03:

What about you, Chunk?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, uh I think traveling. I like mostly I like to be by myself, you know what I'm saying? That when I get my mindset and get everything right. But mostly I like to be around my kids too. Yeah, I like that for sure.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. Um my 40th birthday, my parents had me a surprise party. And they were uh we got there and they were telling my kids, you know. Well, my oldest was like, Dad, we about to go. And I was like, no, no, y'all stay. Like, I want y'all to be here. You know what I'm saying? So I definitely like that. And and um I think a a memorable, another memorable birthday I had was my 30th birthday, and all of us went to the beach. And yeah, we had a we we all wore suits and went out to eat.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, that was a good one. Uh, what's the name of that spot in the beach? Uh I I saw it again. Yeah, the name after a horse. Um Thoroughbred. Thoroughbred, yeah. Thoroughbred. Yeah. Yeah, good time. Because my 30th was a good one. It was just a party. Yeah. Downtown and 40th was a party that I promise you I did not want. I wanted to travel, but my wife wanted to throw me a party, so I embraced it, but I wanted to go somewhere.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

All right, your top three cartoons. Uh, cartoons. When I was younger, what cartoon I used to watch? Um, one was the Flintstones. I used to watch that a lot. I used to watch Scooby-Doo. Flintstones, Scooby-Doo. And uh, what the uh the um uh He-Man, He-Man. I'm gonna go He-Man. I'ma go He-Man.

SPEAKER_02:

That's a good one.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, he-man.

SPEAKER_02:

What you got, Johnson? Uh I got Tom and Jerry. Eagle. Um Huckleberry Hum.

SPEAKER_04:

Why you took it back?

SPEAKER_02:

I said Laugh Olympics next. Nah, I gotta go with Dragon Ball Z. I gotta be going with Dragon Ball Z.

SPEAKER_03:

I ain't never been in the anime. Me either. Yeah. I used to get off the bus to go watch that boat. Um, I gotta go with anything that had Bugs Bunny in it. Yeah, Bugs Bunny with Louis.

SPEAKER_00:

Tom and Jerry and Flintstones. Yeah. And so I like the little Laugh Olympics. I thought that was a dope little cartoon when they like Hong Kong food too. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

All right. Food or drink that you like, but most people find disgusting. Um I'm going, I'm going straight chitlins.

SPEAKER_00:

Chitlins?

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, you like chitlins? You're right. Most people say they don't like chitlins and never had them. They go off the side. I didn't have them.

unknown:

I just don't.

SPEAKER_03:

But what you got?

SPEAKER_00:

I had them and don't like them. I got them. They ain't my cup of tea. Um, I don't got, I don't think I eat nothing to corn. Yeah, I know. Again, the one thing I don't eat because how it looks is corned beef hash, and I hear people talk about that, but I cannot look at it. I can't stomach it. So it's no food, like everybody like, yeah, you eat that. Um I eat vegetables. I know, not really. I eat butter bean, you call it. I eat the vegetables. I you got anything to drink?

SPEAKER_02:

Back then I used to eat tomatoes like that.

SPEAKER_00:

But now I eat them now. Uh I'm trying to think about something I eat that people would think is just disgusting. Um I don't know. Well, my kids think cashews, well, my boys are allergic, so they can't get nuts or whatever, but I I like cashews, and but I know most people like cashews. You know what I'm saying? So everything I can think of, most people actually like.

SPEAKER_03:

All right. It's like pigs. I I knew that would have been a tough one, so I added up on this one. A famous woman you might find attractive. A famous woman you might not find as attractive as most people.

SPEAKER_00:

My top one probably be Beyoncé. And I'm not saying she's bad looking, but she just ain't my cup of tea.

SPEAKER_03:

I think Beyonce. Y'all tripping, by the way, but that's your cup of tea. But mine is uh Michelle Obama, man. A word, yeah. I I mean I'm not saying she's ugly, but I don't I don't see the major attraction. Now I'm talking about looks. Yeah, that would not that why I was saying her attraction ain't her attraction ain't got nothing to do with looks like that. I know she's an intelligent woman, and she's not your typical, you know.

SPEAKER_00:

But I'm gonna give you another one. I can scratch Beyonce. This was me now, and I know people probably gonna hate me for this, but can I later? She never done it for me. Oh wow, you never done it for me, bro. Like and I'm looking at movies you need. I feel you, but if she just do it for y'all, ain't that okay?

SPEAKER_03:

That's the purpose of the question.

SPEAKER_02:

Sheesh. Second one is Oprah. I ain't never heard nobody say Oprah fine, bro.

SPEAKER_00:

She got money. That's all. She attractive chunk if she ain't gotta be fine. She attracted. Ain't nobody.

SPEAKER_03:

All right, I'm gonna move on because I love Oprah. I love her so much. All right, man. Well, that's good, man. It's always dope having conversations with y'all boys, man. I'm gonna end it with the quick, rapid uh pick six. Oh holiday you prefer to celebrate. Fourth of July Memorial Day. Fourth of July. Yeah, I'm gonna go with the four. KFC or Bo Jangles? Bo Jangles.

SPEAKER_04:

Ooh, boy, that's a tough one.

SPEAKER_03:

That's tough for me. I'm going with the Colonel. I'm gonna go with that. I can't wait to go. I had them damn hot wave yesterday.

SPEAKER_01:

12 of them. What do you think? KFC, man.

SPEAKER_03:

I'm going with the colonel. I'm good with both. All right. Cold water or room temperature? Cold water. Room for me. Frosted flakes or Captain Crunch.

SPEAKER_00:

Uh Tony for me. Yeah, give me. I don't like either one. Captain Crunch. Yeah. You put the Crunch Berries in there. Yeah, the Crunch Berries make a little different, but usually I ain't never liked Frosted Flakes. I ain't never liked playing Captain Crunch. Too hard to eat. Steve Harvey or Cat Williams? I'm going Cat Williams. I'm going Steve Harvey. Stand up and call Cat Williams all day long. They ain't close. It ain't close when it comes to comedy.

SPEAKER_03:

That's just a toss up. All right, last one, man. New edition or boys and men?

SPEAKER_00:

Mmm. That is a tough one. New. I sit here and got to think about this one. Go with Bobby it is.

SPEAKER_03:

I'm going with Bobby.

SPEAKER_00:

I'm telling you, that's tough because, man, Boys and Men, I mean, they hit the scene and laid out some classic classics. Um, but new edition was first. So that would got a lot, man. Look, give me boys and men. I'm gonna go ahead and say it.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00:

New edition got a couple songs. They got a lot of people. I don't know what to put, but I could if I had to put an album, I'm gonna listen to more boys and men than I am gonna be new edition. But new edition songs, they probably got the top songs. Yeah, it's almost like this. I think I don't know. Wow, yeah, like even think about it.

SPEAKER_03:

Catalog. I think they have more, but not as much better. Like, like new edition, because you got to go from when they were little too. So they might have more hits. I don't even, I wouldn't even say all that. So so off top of your head, I'm gonna name, name, let's go new edition. Just off top. I know it's plenty more. So you got Can You Stand the Rain? Candy Girl. Uh-huh. Um, sorry. I think that's the name of the song. Oh, girl, I'm sorry. You're not my kind of girl. You're not my kind of girl. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Um, shoot. Uh can you stand the rain? That's the one. That's the one I think about when I think of it.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, I'm just saying, it name them in quantity how many you can name on top of your head. Candy girl. Candy girl, can you stand the rain? You're not my kind. Yeah. Uh Mr. Telephone Man. Um, that's four. And we just talking to what we can name off top of our head. I'm sure we Google, you be like, oh, I forgot about that. So let's let's just say we get them five off top. Okay, boys, the men. I'm down on bended knee. End of the rule. End of the roll.

SPEAKER_02:

Um, end of the room.

SPEAKER_03:

I can't even think of it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Motown Philly. Okay.

SPEAKER_03:

Um we just going off top.

SPEAKER_00:

Uh oh, I'm sitting here thinking the one. It's on a it's a wedding song, too.

SPEAKER_02:

They did a Christmas song, too. Yeah, they do the Christmas album.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, you got a silent night, but that ain't a damn song. Yeah. Who is Silent? Who would originate a Silent Night? Yeah, Temptation is all I know. You sure? I I say all I knew. Okay, I think Silent Night came out way before the Temptation. They did their rendition.

SPEAKER_03:

Um Water Run, Drive, Motown Philly. Yeah. Mama, Song for Mama. Yeah, Song for Mama, one of my favorites. And it snowed that thing that explains.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, so you that about six right now.

SPEAKER_03:

I got it. Okay, I ain't going off top. I just got something in my on in my face now. But woo wee. Well, you talking about new edition. Hold on. Let me let's pull up new edition. And because I knew it was something I forgot. I don't know, dog. If you're just looking at titles, yeah. Because it wasn't a lot that jumped off with me. And I'm talking about just the group. I ain't talking about when they bring it off.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, that's why I'm saying the bell build the vote.

SPEAKER_03:

Can you stand around? Oh, if it isn't love, Mr. Telephone Man, Cool It Now, Candy Girl, not my kind. Yeah. Boys the Men. They got a song, Boys the Men. Uh Any Heartbreak. That was a big one. I thought that was the whole album. No, that's a that's actually a song. Okay. I never I don't remember that one. Ah, that's that's a toss-up, bro. Y'all y'all got to chime in to that one and let us know which boo you got. I ain't lying. Boys the man, new edition. I might put that on the phone. Because and and to make it stretch a little further, uh, new edition member find the boys the men. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

So I mean that that's respect. So you gotta get at the new edition. I'm gonna get a new edition from that standpoint. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But again, he recognized talent. There you go. He recognized talent.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, man. That's my pick six, man. Shout out to uh, you know, Deion Sanders down.

SPEAKER_00:

All right, man. Anything y'all got in clothes, man? Man, just one thing I just want to ask this question, and it kind of came up. What's one thing that everyone should experience before at least once? What's one thing that you feel like everybody should experience at least once? Sexual healing. Hey, you know what the funny part? I it's a list of stuff that came, right? One of the things on that list was an orgasm, and you gotta realize everybody ain't never experienced everybody ain't experiencing. I'm like, uh I got evidence that I got at least three off. You want me to be candid? But yeah, that's that's that was one of the ones on the list, man. What do you think, Chuck? What's something everybody got to experience at least once?

SPEAKER_03:

I I'll I'll take it. I'll be yeah. Orgasm was definitely on the list. I'll say I I clean it up a little bit. I say even at 40, I'll say Disney World. Disney World? Yeah. I'll say Disney World. I've I've been to Disney World a lot of times. Only one. And each time I've had fun. The last time I went, I can see I had probably had more fun than the kids. I say a cruise one time.

SPEAKER_00:

And see, one of the things they talk about is um moving to another city or traveling. Well moving to a city other than what you grew up in, and traveling is one of the things too. And one that I did not have, that I didn't that I never had, and I I think it's gonna come soon. The love of a dog. I ain't never had a dog. Yeah, I love dogs, man. I never had a dog.

SPEAKER_03:

I've had a dog all my life, up until you know, I I've I I've I've had a dog all my life. I say that. I get it. Uh uh I think a dog, uh a pet. I say a pet. I don't want to talk about dogs. I think you can have a dog and it will fit your personality as a person. Like, I'm scared of that. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00:

Dog gonna be bipolar. I mean gonna be DMS one day and then turn around, man. Be singing love RB the next day.

SPEAKER_03:

It happens, it happens. But yeah, man. Shout out to everybody, man, that's listening. Definitely appreciate y'all.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, man. We're gonna wrap it up. I'm trying to think about what a quote I want to end with today. Chunk, you got a quote you go by, live by man. I live by the three C's, cool, calm, and collect. Okay, well, that's the message for tonight. Everybody stay cool, calm, and collected. And we out. Yes, sir. Yes, sir.