LOL - Ep 84 - Leading with a Rebel Heart

A LIVE Spiritual Talkshow that unites spiritual superpowers for weekly psychic investigations and predictions.

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⭐️ Christopher Witecki  @SiriusJoyTV | https://siriusjoy.com/
⭐️ Scott Cruz  @ScottCruz | https://scottcruzpm.com/

Directed by Morgan Obendorfer
Produced by Erica El Hilali

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:01

It's Aquarius T in with Pluto in Aquarius.

SPEAKER_01 0:04

And we're leading with a Rebel heart. Come up.

SPEAKER_02 0:40

Welcome to Leaning Out Loud, the spiritual shift show that's sacred and spicy at the same time. I'm Psychic Astrologer, Christopher Otecki, Sensei to serious joy.com.

SPEAKER_01 0:48

And I'm Scott Cruz Psychic Medium with Scott Cruz PM.com. And I always say Scott Cruz PsychicMedium mentor. It's important to add that little my my my title there. But what is uh what's going on with this week with you, Christopher? Because as you know, I was gonna do it.

SPEAKER_02 1:03

This week has been incredibly challenging, I think, for me, anyways. But for me, it's my house of lifestyle and work. And uh my life is going through like, I guess, the 5G upgrade in the sense of like really having the foundation in place to handle what I want to do and moving things around and relationships changing too. People leaving, people coming, people saying goodbye for the last time. I've had a couple of moments where it's like, oh, okay, well, you well, I know how that's gonna end. You know, just like a lot of people came in for a moment just to realize this is not gonna go forward. We both know that, you know what I mean? Like whether it's business, personal, um, or even for friendships in some cases, like uh ones that come and go, they're kind of going now, and some are coming. So I'm definitely feeling a transition and I'm trying to reorganize my life, um, which is what Capricorn's about. You know, then Aquarius now in the last, you know, is energetically a different shift. How do you feel?

SPEAKER_01 1:52

Well, I was a can of worms, you know. How about you? Yeah, um, yeah. I mean, it's just to me, it's just I I I I've been very much in my mind, I would say, in my head about because I have noticed that I've been judging myself for the duality that we have, right? So I I I find myself giving when I get irritated because I I put all my patience into my work and helping people, of course, that extends to my friendships and people in that regard because you help people and your friends like I need your help, and so that happens a lot. So then I realized my patience wears thin that when I'm out and about, people irritate the hell out of me. And I can't just normal people do. So what's that? You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 2:33

Or like people in your in your life, daily life?

SPEAKER_01 2:35

No, just like out and about, just being around people, you know what I'm saying? Because after I've divulged all my patience to clients and friendship to go out, like out and about, I'm just like, oh, these people are not. I just want to be the be white, like I almost want to be on my own planet, and then you know, and just I always recommend people have a therapist or someone that they a mentor they speak to. And I have a therapist, my partner's a therapist who has a therapist, and it's good to bounce things off of because then I can like really talk to people about myself that don't know me. And I love that sounding board because I can process. And my therapist is good because we like to have philosophical conversations, which I love, and it makes me like get things better. And I realized yeah, so my therapist says, He goes, So isn't it isn't it true that you you say everything has duality, right? I said, Yeah, he's like, So then why are you judging yourself for the fact that people irritate you? I'm like, You're right, maybe it's okay if people irritate me. Maybe my tank is always full of patients, and so maybe it's quite a bit irritated. Maybe I shouldn't be so irritated about being irritated by people and accept it. So I've been kind of finding that balance more, you know, and I find that they that amplif amplified my irritation just because I was, you know, being hard on myself because certain people bugged me, or you know, and so I've been really kind of like wrestling with the fact of like it's okay to have that duality, and when you do, it becomes more comical, and so and latter myself. So it's been like I've been organizing things in that way, you know, because I'm that's very Aquarian.

SPEAKER_02 3:50

I mean, you're literally being the age of a chorus in front of us because it's like you're realizing that uh duality is, and people are not the same, and you know, it's time humans just fucking get over it and pay attention to the fact that you know we're not gonna change each other, and none of us are gonna change for each other either. So maybe what needs to change is like maybe the mutual respect or the you know the agreements between each other. Um, that I mean, I think that's the dawn of the age, right? There, I mean that's the idea. It's like the brotherhood, it's like you just fucking go over there to Anarca and I'll stay here. You know, like there's a person.

SPEAKER_01 4:21

And being psychic, and being psychic, like when you're out in the belt, like I read people's crit crit like shit immediately. Like, I can tell someone's lying, you know, it's just such stuff is always in front of my face. And sometimes, like, you're just reading people's bad energy sometimes. It's like, oh, get it away. And so that's funny. Instead of me like being hard on myself to try to resist feeling that feel it and just like go on your way and say, All right, I could get out of that, get out of here. So I was been processing that a lot because I was giving myself crap for I was supposed to love everybody and like tolerate everything. It's like, but then I said to myself, I'm like, if someone told you walk in a bed of nails, are you gonna be comfortable doing that? It's like, well, why would why should I be comfortable walking a bed of nails? That's unc hurts, right? So same thing, like certain people's energies. I think people need to understand that too in the spiritual communities. You don't have to like everybody, but you show respect, right? And you show love and respect to people just because of being human, but you don't have to like everybody. I think that too many people are like, be positive about everything, and they they more end up being harder on themselves because of that. Then yeah, it's okay if certain people bug you, you know.

SPEAKER_02 5:16

And more I know about astrology, though. I mean, the more I know about astrology, practice astrology, and just see all these different frequencies, and that's what people are. There are all these different frequencies. Um, I'm cool that I get I must get on other people's nerves, is what I'm saying. Like, I know my my frequency gets on people's nerves, but I'm not gonna stop being me. And a lot of people's frequencies used to get on my nerves, but then when I was just like, Oh, I know that frequency, and I noticed knowing it for me. I'm like, I get it, I get I get why they're there, them, and I get why I'm I'm me, and and we both have to be who we are. I like the astrology of me goes that both charts have to exist.

SPEAKER_01 5:51

But what I'm saying, what I'm saying, when you buy when you exceed all that processing and you just come to terms that they're just people that are just annoying and people are just bad energy, right?

SPEAKER_02 6:00

That's the point I got because I think people stay there, people stay there, and like I mean, if you have to work with those people or interact in the day with those people, like they're you know, people that you're doing, you know, vendors, whatever, like dropping stuff off, picking whatever, and they're in a bad mood, it's like fuck, you know, like you you do spend your life kind of trying to not not trigger it, step around it, not feed it, and it does become annoyances, I think, like calluses in our life, you know, and those situations I hate, you know, I don't like to be in that and that's and that's the point, and that's the point.

SPEAKER_01 6:32

And sometimes, like, my thing is always like to fix and to maintain, and there's a problem to solve. It's like, no, sometimes just avoid it. And I I was giving myself so much pressure to answer your question. Like, I was giving myself pressure because I was wanting to avoid it. It's like you're supposed to. That's fine.

SPEAKER_02 6:44

That's that's a boundary to avoid it is a boundary, exactly. That's Pluto. I mean, that's what Pluto is a boundary. You know, people like I don't understand boundaries. I know it's kind of I get it because it's like a little too obvious to actually be real, but that's the whole idea of a boundary. Like, all you have to do is be aware that there's a line. As soon as you're aware that's a line, the whole universe is told the line's there that you think the line's there. No one does not know subconsciously or in their spirit, their spirit all knows and talks about that's where the line is. Now, most of us are smart enough to not cross that line because we can feel the vibe and be like, No, stay the fuck back, stay back, right? But some people who are sociopaths or whatever get off on like jumping that line, and so it's a matter of kind of thinking what you are drawing into you. But the truth is what you're saying right there, you don't have to do anything, that's a line.

SPEAKER_01 7:29

Yeah, well, exactly. But you know, this internalization, I think we just put a lot of guilt, you know. But I understand like the equal intensity that you have in one direction, you're gonna experience it in the other direction somehow, you know. And so, and I and I feel like that's that's the mastery for me. That if I can be positioned, like I know how much I love people, but I also know there's a there's a love hate to something too, and understanding, and hate doesn't mean you want to kill someone, hate just means like I detest that, that's not what I want. And when you're in that equal balance, I feel like that's mastery of understanding the duality of that, yeah. I'll just beat myself up for the negative part of it. I'm just like that's reality.

SPEAKER_02 8:02

That's what the whole self-love thing is, too. And I know I like preaching my brand, but it's like self-love, if you love yourself, first of all, you get all the goodies all the time, so you already win, you get all the attention you want from you. You don't have to, you can tune out the world, and then people go, That's gonna make you selfish. No, because what happens when we start to feel up with self-love, you actually want to give it away at that point. It's like too much, like you you start giving away to cats and plants and all sorts of shit. But the point is, like, if you just put yourself first and it really is love, not like ego indulgence or any other, like you know, twisted enjoyments that we've come to do instead of loving ourselves. If you really love yourself, you're gonna be just fine and you're not gonna give a fuck when you see that person, you're gonna find it funny.

SPEAKER_01 8:41

Yeah, but there's also a fine line with that, too, because so many people think that self-love is they have to keep working on themselves too hard and they end up actually doing a detriment to themselves because they're working on themselves too much, thinking it's self-love. That's a mental thing.

SPEAKER_02 8:52

That's that's not a love thing, that's the mind's idea of love, like the mind checking up. Love is felt, man. If you don't love what you're doing, right? Well, people are lost in their mind big time. I mean, that's one of the things.

SPEAKER_01 9:03

That's what we're here to help distinguish, as I so I can finish that thought is that people need to distinguish the fact that sometimes they think what they're doing is self-love, but that's just like a self-imposed idea, right? And that isn't right, you know, or they're judged or they're judging themselves too much, you know, and this and they think that you know, well, I have to be better at that. So that's loving myself to be better. It's like, no, you're pressuring yourself, you know.

SPEAKER_02 9:22

So it's not loving to judge, exactly. It's like it's not loving to judge, it's not a loving thing to judge yourself, it's not a it has to be a loving thing. That's the thing, but we don't understand what that is, we don't have a lot of practice. Even I who've been told to say it like and have channeled it, it's been like an idiot at it, you know. I mean, like, and they picked chose a right person because I'm finding all sorts of ways, but mostly what I found in this year, like my big like 2025 big aha moment was it's all self-love, and what I mean by that is we are meant to give to ourselves and channel God creation energy into us and breathe it in and out like Christ consciousness. We are meant to breathe love, and how are you gonna breathe love unless you're loving yourself all the time? And if you do love yourself, genuinely, you know you don't become a prick, you become loving to everyone. It just by nature is a byproduct of this.

SPEAKER_01 10:09

What's I'm saying, yeah, because that's I always believe that true love is the fact that when you really embrace that, naturally it's just gonna be shared, like just now it expands, and so that's a natural process. So if you think you're freaking gonna be selfish by being immersed to self-love and not doing correctly, then you're not doing correctly, obviously. You know, because self-love means you also have to understand your participation and your involvement with others around, and that's what really love. That's what the self-love is like going inward, just to the core of that, you know. Um genuinely loving people people have to stop like you know identifying like certain pressures and you know, to-do lists as self-love. It's it's just and I say self- I say love is like about acceptance, but then people misinterpret that saying, so you accept pedophiles? It's like it's not about accepting that pedophilia and all that negative stuff is is good, it's accepting that it exists and then understanding how to approach and to handle those things. That's what we mean by acceptance. When people try to like they can't accept certain things, they can never move on, they can never find the wisdom or intellect to maneuver in their lives moving forward because they're in contempt of what they don't like because they can't accept it. So love's acceptance doesn't you have to agree with it, but that helps you to move forward and expand on it and say this is actual reality.

SPEAKER_02 11:16

If you love yourself, you you understand that's a person who isn't loving themselves. So if you love yourself, you know that's a person who's not, and you know how high it can be, and you know how low they are, but also in the same sense, if we did practice self-love, there wouldn't be pedophiles. The reason why they are reaching out into bad zones in the appropriate direction is because their own self-love is so damaged, probably down to that child level, so damaged that they are trying to fill it with the wrong thing. And honestly, if we learn to fill ourselves, we'll have gargantuan energy. And it's I'm bad at this. My problem is I want to spend it right away. I love myself, ooh, let's go do a project. Like, I want to spend it right away. Like, I don't just sit there and let it grow interest, you know what I mean. This in myself love, I kind of spend it on stuff, and I so I'm learning how to bank that, but I pluto a very low Pluto, so I'm an idiot when it comes to that too. But uh, very good observation. I really think this is the beginning of the age, ma'am. I did the countdown 2026, and I did all the the dates for the the year, and I'll tell you there are 10 dates, which are each 10 step numbers, and it's like we are from what I can tell, we are literally shifting to 5D, or at least goes online. So it's like you know how MTV went online early in the 80s, but no one heard of it. That's a start, it's a 5D might be the same way.

SPEAKER_01 12:31

2026 is the starting of this that's cycle, right? So many people say the good when I was saying the 2026 is a year in innovation, or any starting about 2026 predictions coming to pass already, actually. I'm like, Jesus Christ, it's been a week. But you know, but what I'm saying is 2026 is a year of innovation, year of discovery, year of finding one's place. So it starts its way. There'll still be chaos, and it's still gonna exist right now as things find its place too, but it's the beginning of that cycle. Many people think, oh, it's five days, it's like automatically ship things shift right away. No, it's a process, but we're at least we start that cycle this year, you know, in 2026 about that. I started it.

SPEAKER_02 13:04

I started it. I mean, the first part of the process is you got to let go of all the old stuff and your own the way you approach, you know, the way you hold on to stuff and the fears you I mean, basically, all the tools you develop to deal with your own shadow have to go. They're all inappropriate. All 3D tools are not really, you know, gonna function. And and we built all these tools and stuff based on survival, avoidance, you know, just trying to get through the pain, you know, all these things that are all based on fight or flight, all based on will I survive? And we're at this point of maturing. We're like, we're gonna survive. Question is will we kill ourselves? You know, like that's the question.

SPEAKER_01 13:38

Uh, which leads us to the headlines. Wait, I was gonna say, but I was thinking about timing too, because like I turned 44 in the second. So every second, I turned 44.

SPEAKER_02 13:46

No, no, no, no, no. It's Uranus versus Uranus. I mean, this is your midlife crisis in astrology, is when the planet Uranus then opposes the planet Uranus, and Uranus is the Aquarius. And so, what it is is like, think of a ghost of yourself that's gone ahead in time and is now looking back and going, What the fuck? Because that's what it is. It's like your highest self looks at you with Uranus versus Uranus and goes, This is all we've done, seriously, you know, kind of thing. Wherever you are, it doesn't matter, even if you come far, you still have that same like innovation part of yourself that will still make you far behind. And uh, that's what midlife crisis is. Why you know uh men then sleep with their secretaries and you know, uh and leave their wives. At least that was a time then.

SPEAKER_01 14:28

I thought I was premature at my midlife crisis. I think I really kind of did that probably three years ago when I've been in Palm Springs.

SPEAKER_02 14:33

Uh well, no, I mean it lasts 42 to 44, in my opinion, and uh it comes and goes in waves, but also Pluto's in Aquarius, you are an Aquarius, you're a grandmaster, Aquarius.

SPEAKER_01 14:42

That's what that's what I'm saying. 44 is a very unique number, you know, it's a great number with the 44. And and of course, you're honest, you're honest. And but the my song that uh released on the 29th, it'll be available on the 29th on iTunes and all the platforms, a little pitch there. That's my 11th single I released. So the 11 is a power number number two. So um, so it's there's a lot of like kind of things aligning with the with the timing, I would say, with my energy. So it's just kind of cool.

SPEAKER_02 15:09

Yeah, it's good. Well, we're looking at the signs, aren't we, buddy? I count that stuff too, by the way. I count that stuff too. Even like the minutes on a treadmill, I'm like using step numbers and like to hit intentions, like it's just crazy math out of everything.

SPEAKER_01 15:20

Well, I use my astrology to find out would be a good date to release a song. The song's been done, but it's like it says the 29th is a wonderful day for that receptivity for your new song, and so it's called Save the Future.

SPEAKER_02 15:29

Never came to me, buddy.

SPEAKER_01 15:30

Never came to me. Save the future. So um, but someone someone actually he texted it to me like randomly, a friend of mine randomly, he's also into astrology and texts me like randomly, you want to release this date? And here's where he's why I'm like, okay.

SPEAKER_02 15:41

Well, that is that is a sign from God, no, no doubts. I'm not a jealous astrologer.

SPEAKER_01 15:47

Hey, sometimes I could be like one of those psychics where it's like if a client goes to another psychic, I'm like, I'll just make sure the psychic's taking care of them. I'm like, I want to make sure they're doing just as good as I know what I am doing, if not better. You know what I mean? So I get more protective.

SPEAKER_02 15:59

I'm like, was I right? Was I tell me what I am?

SPEAKER_01 16:02

They come back. That's when they come back. I'm like, well, you're right. I didn't want to hear it, the other person's wrong.

SPEAKER_02 16:07

So honestly, here's the thing everyone's a filter of psychic energy. And you first of all, you got to get good with yourself, or you're gonna be full of shit and your readings will be off. So once you're good and you're clear with yourself, then you can provide a clear message. And at the end of the day, everybody sees life differently, so they all pay attention to different things in heaven. Like in the in the transmission, I'm looking at the same stuff that Scott's looking at. Everyone has a so, therefore, no two readings are alike. I mean, I love it, it's like filling in the resolution of a room. I you can read, I'll get I'll take 10 readings on a topic because it just fills in detail and it's all it all overlaps, it never actually abrazes very rarely. Is there something not not correct? In at least a group people I turn to, they're all on the same page and they're overlapping, and it's like I see more of the image with everyone's opinion.

SPEAKER_04 16:51

Yeah, do you?

SPEAKER_02 16:52

Yeah, I love it. I think that's what's so amazing, and people don't realize too.

SPEAKER_01 16:55

Yeah, all right.

SPEAKER_02 16:55

So I think we do some headlines, brother.

SPEAKER_01 16:57

I was gonna speak of boundaries and oh, you want to read okay. So we talk about our headlines, yeah. Um, I'll take the first one. Minnesota is at the center of ice action. There are currently 3,000 ice officials surging in the state, including at the elementary school of our present seventh-year-old son. Uh, including at the elementary school of our present seven-year-old son. I think I read that right. Oh, producers, sorry. Our producer is that present.

SPEAKER_02 17:20

Oh, yeah, producers, well, she's our president now. No, yeah, our producer of the show lives there, so I think she's feeling the heat. Uh, yeah, and her seven-year-old son. Yeah, you know what? I'll tell you, she's a mom. That's not a producer talking, that's a fucking mom talking. You're my seven-year-old son's, you know, uh state. This this includes my elementary school, my kid. Like that, you know what? You cannot mess with the hen house, man. It's like you do not. I understand that, and I think you know, the truth is, I don't know. I thought that the good old boys of any uh military part of our nation understood women and children were kind of sacred. Isn't that a conservative thing?

SPEAKER_01 17:57

Yeah, of course. But what but you know what's going on there? It's interesting that like we have the issue with with uh I think Nicole Good or something. I keep forgetting her first name. I kept seeing good that she was murder you murdered there, or however people want to associate the the the interaction there, and then George Floyd was the interaction in Minneapolis. So it just seems like yeah, yeah. What's the consistency here, the karma there?

SPEAKER_02 18:18

It seems produced. I'll tell you that right now. I mean, when it was with Floyd, I felt produced. When I say produced, I mean there was a lot of that story set up under underlying intentions, you know. I mean, I don't know. I'm a psychic, I'm like, nothing feels right. Now that's the point, and actually, this is the point. You know what? There is a lot of weird stuff going on in Minnesota. What the fuck? I'm not sure what it is. I don't think it's the way Minnesota has been, by the way. Um, I know I mean they're conservative, but they've never been, I've never felt like you know, I've lived in the deep south, I lived in Arkansas going in high school. I felt some of the most conservative people on the earth, and honestly, most of them are just like, you stay in your lane, I'll stay in mine. That's pretty much you know, it's very cool.

SPEAKER_01 18:59

Yeah, and they're and they're very they're very very diverse, um, environment too. It's kind of a live and let live vibe, which I love that too. Like you do you, I do me, and it's all good, right? But here's it's quickly assuming God. It's but they think it's between you and God, they're not gonna win that. And for the producer's sake, we'll do the quick rundown of a quick list of like the things that have happened. No, we should.

SPEAKER_02 19:18

It is sus. It is sus. It's very suspect.

SPEAKER_01 19:21

So here's a quick list. So first one is you know, shot and uh shot and killed a U.S. citizen and mom, so that's one of them, right? And then another one was an ice, an ice, uh, an ice officer. Yes. I'm just gonna quickly do the list in respect for you know for her, her, her city. Um the president stopped and tried to detain off-duty police officers, uh, detained a city snow plow driver, shot a man in the leg, arrested an elderly U.S. citizen. Officers broke into his home and dragged him outside in his underwear in sub-zero. That's actually true. There's videos of this, and they found out well, he they found out he was a citizen and then released him hours later. So it's like, and then tear gas. And so, you know, there's a lot going on there. So, you know, here's the thing I just want to be very clear about. Majority of people believe immigration needs to be legal. We come in legally, and of course, we don't want people coming here doing bad things in our country. That's a bipartisan thing. There's not some sort of agenda that all these liberals want people swarming on in and conservatives want it's normal people, like, no, legal citizenship, of course. But we also believe in due process, there should be due process, and people should not just be pulled out of their home. And then I did ISD ICE agency to also follow law as well. And so it has to be a balance, and and the way things are being done, there's too many instances of malplay, deaths, shooting, you know.

SPEAKER_02 20:34

I'm saying that it's everywhere something massively everywhere. Can we pretend it's not just ice? I mean, it's usually it's usually cops killing you know innocent people being overshot. I mean, I think all these cops were cops will just all of a sudden start shooting on a person and not stop. Like, what the what WTF? You know, and I think A, I think there's a lot of people on Adderall, and a lot of people on legal basically speed, and they are wiped in there way, you know, they're way out of their mind in some regards.

SPEAKER_01 21:00

Well, I'm just gonna say this for a minute. People, people for people who are talking about like DI and unqualified people in the fear of that. There's ICE agents that just had a 45 45-hour class or course or something like that that they need to take to join ICE. Anyone who just joined ICE. So there's a lot of people in ICE that are not qualified. People just want to go and just ruffle things up, and so we can't trust who we have working on the city. Oh, I agree.

SPEAKER_02 21:23

That sounds badly poor. That is extremely poorly managed. But I'm what I'm trying to say is look, no excuse for anyone, but law enforcement, any enforcement, and I'm not against the police whatsoever. I respect the job, I know we need it, but their in enforcement has is been inflamed to a huge degree. And it's ever these stories when you say, you know, drag them out in their underwear, that's every morning in LA. Every morning, you know, at least twice at the same time. I'm not saying it's right. I'm saying it's we need to talk about as a country in bigger, I think, levels here, but like we got issues to look at, you know, as citizens, not worried about I don't think we should be. Thinking about politicians anymore. I think citizens just need to take it into their own hands, period.

SPEAKER_01 22:04

Well, things well, that's what citizens are trying to do, but then people try to protest and then they're labeled by a party that they're lunatic liberals. When it's like, oh, because you don't agree with that, then you're a lunatic liberal. It's like, what is this division coming from, especially from the top? It's like, how about people have their own perspective that people need to start standing up? And it's a black and white. And I hate the, I hate, I hate the response of, well, you shouldn't be here illegally. Things life is not that black and white. We all agree with that sentiment. These agendas, these narratives that are floating around complicated. Contaminating people's but contaminating people's brains are like brain worms. Like that's not happening in reality. You know, what's we can see what's going on in our world. So all these instances that our producer left in these notes here, that's a lot in just a few months.

SPEAKER_02 22:47

Oh no, no, this is overkill, and this is literally yes, yes. And it happens that way. And it happens on all sides that way. I mean, it doesn't matter what it is. I mean, there were certain, you know, uh pro-rights groups that were, you know, walking through towns and the towns found themselves on fire. We remember that. That wasn't too long ago. And they were just walking through town in quiet protests, but things are on fire. Things were looted.

SPEAKER_01 23:09

Things were done correctly, Christopher, they would not be re-releasing them hours later because they found out, oh, you are a citizen, or people being shown, here's my ID, they still take it behind their cars. I know, you know, and people are allowed to people are allowed to be indifferent, be like pause and freeze, and wait a minute, I didn't do any people are allowed to do that. And I don't like hearing people who don't have a heart saying because they're doing that, well, they deserved it. It's like, excuse me, if you're just driving down the road and someone's trying to bang your car and you're like, don't know what's going on, and people with guns, like, what the freak? And you know, you're gonna pause, you're gonna be like, wait a minute, you're gonna resist a little bit. So this whole narrative of this whole narrative of inhumanity going on right now in our in our world is disgusting to me in the name of political affiliations. And I'm talking about I agree.

SPEAKER_02 23:49

Well, I actually, and that's what I'm saying. Why are we fucking talking about the two sides? I think at the end of the day, I think we citizens need to go, well, wait a second. Most of the time we get along. I don't have any problems with anyone in any store, any beach, any nothing. If you're being rude and like throwing beer cans towards my family, something like that, yes, but for the most part, everyone, it's all cool. You're my family, this is the earth, you know. Like, uh, and I don't see I see I don't see people having a genuine problem with each other most of the time. I think we are wired to get along, and I think what we need to do is really rule now. A democracy is not ruling, ruling is you have the thing, is like you're watching TV. What's happening over there is actually none of your business. It's those people's problems. It's the people, I don't want to say Minnesota, you're left out in the dark. I'm saying all of us, it's our local problem to deal with it because that's where your power is, is locally. Locally, we have our power. Locally, we can borrow things, trade things, we can you know be there for each other. To be talked into being mad about something far away from us is really doing us a disservice because we can't do anything about it. And meanwhile, there's crime and stuff going on right next door.

SPEAKER_01 24:57

Well, I think I think with the the wonderful use of social media that a lot of people are being more supportive because of that. People are seeing that and being outraged because this is happening, this these things are happening across our across the globe, right? So it's not just one one isolated instance, but I think people are raising GoFundMe's, you know, look on both sides. They raised GoFundMe's for uh the woman that was shot by ice and they also raise money for the ice agent people who defended him. And so, so I mean, there we we're starting to recognize now that depending that despite our geographical differences, we do have the power to influence and to change things. So that's what I'm seeing people start to be aware of now. So to to pick to dovetail what you're saying about citizens being about citizens, I'm finding that becoming more obvious now because of the chaos. Like I said before, I don't agree with Donald Trump's administration, but we needed him as a disruptor to show us our karma. And many of us are waking up to it.

SPEAKER_02 25:49

I have no, you know, I'm not even gonna go down Trump 30 lines right now. I will, like in little deep conversations, but for the most part, it's gonna be chaos everywhere. I'm telling you right now, and it's not his, you'll just see it bloom everywhere. It's gonna bloom everywhere, and it's gonna bloom for about I think 18 months, about a year and a half. And I actually think I have the date, it's gonna start. Actually, I'm not gonna say it tonight either. I think I have the date, and I'll throw it by you actually off-camera, and then we'll talk about bringing it on. But it's like because I found the date where things sort of all call all come together astrologically, from what I can tell. That meaning that and this is chaos button, it's the same button that the Palladians are talking about, it's the same, but you know, Christians might have been feeling as apocalypse. You know, it's a big something where it gets noisy for a while, and I don't think there's real danger unless you believe there is. And if you do believe there is, you'll draw it in your life.

SPEAKER_01 26:36

Absolutely. I tell people this the beautiful souls that have that signed up to be, I would say, you know, angels of sacrifice for this, these chaoses, God bless them, whatever, who who are who are losing lives because of this. It's howby so of all this is uh this is what we're seeing is just a breakdown breakthrough moment of of society. Of and there's one thing that Elon Musk said that I do actually agree with. And he said that you know, worrying about savings is like pointless because by the time AI comes out, no one's gonna have to worry about making money or money at all. I'm like, I agree with that. I totally agree with that. I'm starting to agree with it. I said 14 years ago, I remember I called it as uh the government's gonna give people a salary, like probably like a 40,000 salary to have, and then we can choose to make more or not, but we're gonna have this like, and then of course, uh years later they called it universal basic income. Like, ah, that's what I was feeling. And so that's definitely gonna happen. And so, but things have to break down, will be secured. AI will help to secure that for us. If you're smart enough to use it to where it doesn't take over your life, um, so we are moving in a better direction, but you know, in order for things to really break through, there's gotta be this breakdown period, and that's happening. But you know, for me, I celebrate it too, as much as I don't like I celebrate it because I know where it's leading us.

SPEAKER_02 27:44

Look, I'm a person who's trying to be healthy for the most part of my whole life. And if you don't break down and cry as hard as I did, and and just the stuff that we carry that we don't even know, the burdens, I mean the pain, the shit. I mean, you just don't realize it. You're just if you're a person that's told to be strong or stand up or anything like that, like you don't even realize how much you are carrying a pain and set and shit. And here's the thing it has to actually pop, it does have to pop. You have to drop all the the drugs and you have to just let it all go. And that's that's the catharsis moment that I think the next 18 months is about. People are gonna get popped into waking up, and you just realize everything is wrong. At least I have like, oh my god, see, but but everyone wants to look at the right. I would not have made the same choices had I seen this before, it's but that way.

SPEAKER_01 28:29

Everybody wants to glorify this 5D thing like it's like heaven on earth. No, 5D means it gets more challenging because you're equal to the deal. Yes, there we're just like, uh no, it's more challenging, it becomes more challenging, and then once you understand you you know the parameters of such, then yes, then you get to enjoy. Like, for example, 3D is fine for me now because I've mastered the idea 3D, so I'm prepared for 5D, and the challenges that 5D will bring initially that we're experiencing the the trial tribulations of 5D, that's what the rapture to me is in the Bible. The tribulation period. Let me finish this real quick. Let me finish this real quick. In in the Bible Revelation, they talk about the trial tribulation before the rapture, right? To me, that's always been a representation of like we go through trial tribulation tribulations before we ascend consciousness. So that's what rapture is really 5D for me, right? And if you don't evolve into 5D, yeah, you'll be killed, you'll be murdered, you'll be left behind in that sense. And so I feel like the trial of tribulations that we're having now is the preparation of 5D. And we have to we have to pass those tests, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:29

But we're not there. I think once we're there, I think I'm gonna talk about this. I think we should like wrap up our last uh yeah, I think commercial. Um, because this is a great conversation, it just goes deep. We just want to bring up the point of like Trump says the US will not use force to acquire Greenland, uh, backed away from overt threats, but confirmed he still seeks some form of deal regarding US control over Greenland. I know I think what's interesting about this is I feel that uh this is the way this man does business, Trump. He bullies you verbally, yeah, and he and he confuses you he verbally abuses you and he and he confuses you at the poker table and he fucking like you know, he plays, he like makes far jokes when you're about to swing your golf court, you know. Like he cheats in a weird way, like he he's an he's like annoying, very he's very good at being that annoying at the wrong time, and he can poke that right that that hornet's nest, and the whole world buzzes. Like, look at how the whole world buzzes just from words. You know, he's a Gemini, that's for damn sure. Because talk about the power of words as a Gemini, you know, misused in my opinion, you know, as far as talent's concerned, like would not take that approach myself, uh, but profoundly good at striking that earthquake right into the core of what you know pisses somebody off. He knows exactly how to piss somebody off. He knows exactly how to piss somebody off, which is like it's a weird, unique uh talent. You know, I have friends who know that.

SPEAKER_01 30:46

Scorpios tend to know that more, even though he's also but he's also that they've got the the egomatic personality where he thinks that it actually is going to rule until he finds out it doesn't. And so then we just spent a whole lot of time wasting energy on things for no reason and causing chaos for no reason. So, you know, that again, I don't know, man.

SPEAKER_02 31:04

Playing poker, I would I don't know. I'd say I'd see that one as a bluff myself.

SPEAKER_01 31:08

I'm a poker player. That's I would that's not a move.

SPEAKER_02 31:11

That's a bluff. That's what you call a bluff.

SPEAKER_01 31:13

It's it's a bluff, but that was an obvious bluff, and that's why no one stood for it. Yeah, please.

SPEAKER_02 31:16

But so obvious it can't possibly be a bluff, and that's the point. You know, there is there's the genius of the 22.

SPEAKER_01 31:21

Um I I you know, I I don't know. I would look, I would I would I would give I will give I will give Trump credit for things he does that's great and things are fine. I will give massive credit, but I'm not gonna give him credit for things that just don't exist either.

SPEAKER_02 31:33

I'll be interested to see what the long play was. I you know, because I don't think he plays in shorthand like he looks like he does.

SPEAKER_01 31:38

It seems like because well, first of all, the Greenland right, the Greenland thing, no one really is on board with that. So then to add more fuel to the fire is like, look, I well, I'm gonna you know cut you off and and then bro broast and brag, but it's not smart, it just makes people look like you're weak, actually. To me, it looked like a weak thing.

SPEAKER_02 31:57

You know, I wonder uh something I want to talk about too. We had a commercial, but it's like where's the global thinking these days? I mean, you know, when we were growing up, we had um we had James Bond, we had these evil men that had different plots, and it was where the world was gonna be. And we've been talking about for a long time, you know, that there's a lot of propaganda of the the the richest elite wanting a one one world government kind of thing, right? Um, and so we see that everywhere, and the themes are everything, you know, one world, one street or whatever. Uh, but you know, but what Trump is doing and what Putin is doing both are acting old world in the sense that the idea of acquiring Greenland is to have a buffer before the United States and to think continentally. And I've been thinking that are we gonna go continental before we go one world? Like, is it that the continent of North America and South America come together as a united for energy? And maybe it should be that way because they're our neighbors, it's local once again. We're thinking global, and it's like they're local, shouldn't we it's possible for them? I think it's possible for that. I mean, Hawaii, you know, was basically stolen. You know, it's like as far as how bad we've been as a country, you know. I'm not saying it's good, right?

SPEAKER_01 32:58

It's possible, but I also feel like this administration wants to be have their dibs on moving it in that direction, too. Oh, hell yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. You know, there's people who just want power control too, and that exists in this administration. And again, it's not just not Trump, it's the administration people behind him, and you know, it's just this whole crew of people in every administration. So but we're in Pluto and Aquarius.

SPEAKER_02 33:16

We're we're in Pluto and Aquarius, and the last time we were here was the American Revolution. We were fighting Great Britain for our independence. That was the last time Pluto was here, and now we're talking about taking over Greenland.

SPEAKER_01 33:24

That's exactly what the five is exactly what the five of wands means, too. It's exactly what the five of wands is. This is conf conflicting, competing ideas, you know. So it's fine. You know, at the end, it's also kind of ends in a stalemate, and those who have been kind of observing are the winners. That's kind of what five of wands means. So it seems like the citizens will be the winners here, and those who have been kind of like doing this crosswires are are gonna be lose-lose for them.

SPEAKER_02 33:47

Let's take a commercial because you just left it a great beat. Uh, because I think the citizens are here to do something else than different than the American Revolution was one role, but now the Plue is back in Aquarius, I think it's a different role.

SPEAKER_04 33:57

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:58

And and what do you have to say, sir? Are you are you got any sales going on? Any sales?

SPEAKER_04 34:03

Am I selling anything? Yeah, you have to have a sale.

SPEAKER_01 34:06

Uh well, I I mean, I just have my live show uh tomorrow, actually, tomorrow, every Thursday, of course. And so if you catch this on the the Saturday's uh stream, so just catch it back on the replay. But I'm talking about tomorrow, who's got in humanity? I want to get dive deep into more about AI and and you know ET and extraterrestrial connections. As I forecast many years ago about you know, between 2025 and 2030 to be contact. Bashar is now saying 2027. Um so I'm like, okay, I you know, I I trust Bashar in that that regard too. So um, where does that leave us and where does that put us? And are they actually guiding us now? And will they in the future? So we'll get into some more of those topics tomorrow and my reads and thoughts about that in the discussion, and also live readings as I do every week, one-on-one readings uh tomorrow on my channel. 6 p.m. Pacific time, 9 p.m. Eastern time. And yes, and that's that. And I might even might even play a little bit of a snippet of my song for the viewers tomorrow before it's released on the 29th.

SPEAKER_02 35:00

That'd be cool, man. I'm excited. You've picked a good time this year astrologically for any song release, I'll tell you. Good. It's the dawn of the dawn, so you'll be one of the songs that we hear like back. You're gonna be that. Um, well, we do have, I think, some paid commercials who are gonna be on video, so we'll be right back after this message. If you're watching us on YouTube, please be kind and do subscribe to our YouTube channel at SiriusJoy TV. Please click like on this video, and if you don't mind, hit the bell button so you're notified so we collectively defeat the algorithm overlords. The Sirius Joy Nonlinear TV Network is simulcasting right now on many media affiliates, including Instagram, x.com, and Facebook, just to name a few.

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SPEAKER_02 36:46

Okay. Actually, that's that that piece uh touches me. Adam edited that commercial, 40 days of past lives in karma. And I actually want to talk to you about that after the show. Um, because it's coming up now. We do this 40-day program at Sirius Joy, and this is so good. This is so good. I mean, I've never um I've never created a class where everyone comes back to me and goes, I'm so different. I I completely understand now who I am because what I was gambling on when I made it was that you already know your past lives, you just don't know you know them. And so we did like a this basically, all you do is interview yourself day after day. But using astrology go, now interview this part, now interview that part, and it just sort of unlocks and people put their own story together. So if you're a person who actually wants to un unlock your subconscious and dive in there safely, uh, four days of uh four days of past lives and karma will give you a clear view of what your karma is, like how do you find those lines, and also you have some clarity in your past lives. I mean, people have the memories in dreams everywhere, and yeah, we'll talk about that too, because it's gonna be you know, and I always time to start.

SPEAKER_01 37:51

I would say that that information is all embedded in your DNA. So our who we are gets interpreted as above, so below. So all that memory we have in spiritual is also embedded in our physical, too. So we they say one strand of DNA possesses like hundreds of terabytes of information, one little strand. And so what's in there? So, of course, our past experiences, our pluses and minuses, karmically unresolved. So, yeah, and so I you know, I also help my clients how to reactivate and ignite that too. And I always tell people it's a timing thing, too. Some people want to bounce in, like, know the timing. So if you're hearing that come to you, chase it. I tell people, dive deep into it.

SPEAKER_02 38:26

Well, the planets are supporting you to see it now. I mean, um, this is like they all shift into Aries very, you know, it's already happening, Neptune has gone into Aries. Um, yeah, that means that the spiritual, you know, we've all come to new spiritual and moral terms of who we are and who we're not. And for those who are like, you know, still thinking that there's a you know, a you know, a gremlin living in their yard, well, I guess you'll do another round, you know. It gets bigger than that, like, but but the truth of the matter is is that I think everyone pretty much has their religion set. Uh, we're not gonna change what our spirit believes or has faith in it at this point. Now with Neptune and Aries, we all put into motion. The last time this happened was the American Civil War and Abraham Lincoln. But before you get all worried about that, I'll tell you, whenever you have a return of anything, it's always the opposite. So if the last time you had the the sides turn inward, that means in the next expression of that karma, things will go outward, which means I think we the people stand in our strength and we go, uh, this isn't gonna work anymore for us. No, this isn't gonna work anymore. And I think that's what the original framers had in mind. I think that the the four mothers and fathers, they knew they were extremely educated, they knew they were very rare, they knew that most people didn't think like them, and they wondered if they were aliens, you know, but they knew like these people are young, it's gonna take a while for this country can grow up and and see. But if we set these certain safeties in place, maybe society will all wake up, can all grow up, and the way that's pre-Elantis thinking. Um, but there are things they couldn't consider, like corporations and stuff like that. So here we are again. Pluto's in Aquarius. When Pluto hits step four for the second time, I'll look that up uh in the future. That'll be the exact date that the American Revolution ended. And so I would expect in the second revolution of the karma, it'll end a little later because it takes more for more consciousness. What are your feelings on it psychically? Do you feel anything that historic?

SPEAKER_01 40:14

Um, as far as like collective read ahead, right? This moment and like yeah, because for me it's you know, a lot of it kept coming up. I I kind of like to see like overall with like the consistency of my sessions. And I, you know, I've been sensing a lot of like, especially mid-July, a lot of people finding their community of people. I felt like collectively, and I'm starting to see it in my individual reads happening a lot too. So and like right now, I feel like this month is it's not so much about avoiding conflict, it's about embracing the conflict, right? Not so much embracing why the conflict is there, but saying this is a conflict. How can we actually maneuver and work through this? It's about having those tough conversations, it's about addressing things that might be tough, saying, you know what? I'm a big boy and a big girl here, so I'm gonna actually put my big girl and big boy panties on and say to myself, I can deal with the conflict, I could deal with the disagreements, I could deal with this. Let's just let's just try to find out why. Let's try to find out what that other perspective is because my motto has always been to be objective and unaffected is the goal. And that's like mastery of physical reality. Objective and unaffected. You don't you're not bothered by it because you understand it. And that's where this is this time is really calling for as we enter, as we just now entered Aquarius season, is to start saying myself, who it's conflict, but doesn't have to be detrimental, doesn't have to be depriving. So let's just instead of trying to go around it or go over it, let's focus how we can go through it. And I think that's where we find more of our mastery, more of our understanding, and that's why more people start coming together. Because I really believe even with the divides that we see in media, I feel like the majority of people do work together, majority of people do want to come together. The political division is very much in the media, it's in the news, it's on the videos that go viral. But majority of people really just want to let people live and let and let live. So we'll find more of that, and we'll find more well like here's finding similar places, and here's what you're gonna find out.

SPEAKER_02 41:58

You're gonna find out that establishment the establishment thinks that you're dumb, thinks that you're dumb. The establishment thinks that we're all dumb and that we don't see it, and they're counting on it, and it's kind of crazy because it's so obvious that that's what they think that you can't believe that's what they think at first. I mean, but at the end of the day, everywhere I go, it's like this assumption that I'm less than, and that's a white guy, even like there's a judgment from everywhere that you're less than, you know, you you know, um, you know, have the you know, remain silent. You you know, the the right to remain silent. It's like what kind of it's weird in a way, it's like an it's a yeah, it's a good right, but then it's like, wait a second, to shut up, like it's a little like, wait a second, what are you saying with that? I know it's a law is but it sounds a little sus if you just hear it like you have the right to shut up.

SPEAKER_01 42:43

Okay, but right, but so to put a button on what I was saying on my read, the the button I wanted to finalize is that more and more people with this conflict will find their common ground and will realize that we are we all majority and collectively are kind of on the same page, actually. Yes, and it isn't as deficit as being portrayed. So I think that's a rev a realization revelation that I feel like this current month will bring as we enter more into 2026 and just you know, don't avoid conflict. Look at it. I start to see more people like call things out more now, not care, you know, like people clapping back and not you know, say like fuck that, you know. So I'm seeing more people take charge. I'm like, yes, I love that, you know.

SPEAKER_02 43:22

I'm not Mr. Polite Guy anymore, you know, and people are upset about it, but it's like I never too much shit to not say something right now. And people like, you don't have to. I'm like, I'm going to because you did it in front of me, you know what I mean? Like, you know, kind of thing. But I think, yeah, I have no problem saying stuff. I honestly will say stuff where I never would before.

SPEAKER_01 43:39

But that's how you lead with a rebel heart, right? Because at the same time, you know, to me, with our topic, leading with the rebel heart means that you know, sometimes you have to go against the grain, you know, and people always ask me with my symbol is my necklace symbol is you are a step 13.

SPEAKER_02 43:52

You are 13 is the rebel, is 13. You're a 13.

SPEAKER_01 43:57

I mean, I just obviously I do it at the opposite of what people. Are you trying to do because I feel like people need to like understand a new perspective?

SPEAKER_02 44:03

It's not that it's that 13 says it all. It's that you go through what your heart, step one, believes. Step three, what your heart believes, what your heart believes. You don't worry about other people's beliefs, you don't worry about other people's hearts. You worry about being a champion of your own heart. That's what a hero is. That you're staying true to your heart, and that's what makes you a hero because that will never mislead you. Your heart concept of spirit will like arguments about what Reiki healing is, like that'll mislead. But honestly, everyone knows what it feels good in your heart and it doesn't feel good in your heart. So quit playing like you don't know.

SPEAKER_01 44:33

My parents, my parents would tell you, I had a mouth since I was since I was four years old. I would call at four years old. Don't you talk like that to some you know really? Oh yeah. I like my my grandfather was like talking very he was my grandpa was a kind of an asshole to my my dad, and so um, and I you know, I just at four years old, it's on camera. We said the thing it's four or five years old, and I just say you don't talk to him like that. Start yelling and pointing his fingers.

SPEAKER_02 44:57

Oh, that's uh you defending your dad. Oh, you defending your dad as a boy? My dad, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 45:01

I guess my grandfather my grandfather I didn't know at that time was was abusive to my dad. But I saw I was yelling at him, pointing his finger, and like, you know, you don't do that.

SPEAKER_02 45:11

I needed friends like you. I'd be like, um, let's just act like we didn't hear that, and we're gonna leave and start to plan our escape. But I'd be aware and I'd be planning the escape for sure. Yeah. Well, it's an interesting time, interesting time. Um, we are in. We were in the transition. I think our passion right here explains it. And I guess part of our leading with a rebel heart, I I have to say I agree. A rebel heart is what your heart believes, and your heart believes it, so you have to follow what your heart says. So, what does leadership mean in the age of Aquarius?

SPEAKER_01 45:42

Well, I guess I'll take that one first because I'm an Aquarius. Look, leadership to me has always been kind of like standing up for what is correct, despite what it makes you look like. You know, despite of what you you feel like how people are gonna see you, because that's not leadership. Because sometimes you know, a group of people might be doing something bad, and that group of people need to be called out. And to that group of people, they might look at you as a demon, but for everybody else, like, oh my god, he's the savior. So we have to understand that leading means that you're going against your own ego and you're going against your own presentation and what people think about you to stand up for what's right. And then leading by example, not just talking, not just like putting comments on social media and Facebook, you know, but like actually leading that in your everyday lives and participating. And so uh when I was, you know, growing up, and you know, I would always do something, it used to annoy me. I would shave my head, people guys around me would start shaking their heads. I'm like, what the hell's going on? I would redo my home, people redo their home. And I'm like, why did uh people copying me? Right? And then I realized when I when that was a time in my life I realized I can help people, I I took my hands-off approach to helping people, and so I start life start showing me you're leading by example just by being passionate about what you're doing.

SPEAKER_02 46:45

So people like they want your joy, they see you in joy, same energy, right?

SPEAKER_01 46:48

And so I'm like, You're happy now, right? So just so even leading by example is like being passionate about yourself and what you're doing, you know, and being consistent, we're brothers on that level.

SPEAKER_02 47:00

Yeah, I think if you lead yourself, you lead the world because that's all people need to do is lead themselves. I think we're in this giant simulation where we're all actually in a reality virtual reality game in heaven, and and we're all looking at each other like who's got the instruction manual, and it's like you do, you're in the player seat, it's up to you to play. And play is like a synonymous with inner child with self-love. And look, you are in love if you are loving what you're doing. So if you're loving sitting there in the sunlight and you're loving it, you're in love. It's a state of being. Love is a state of being, it's not um a magical force or a reward um or something that anyone doesn't have access to. Everyone has access to it. You have to decide to put your attention on it. And it's like, is it that easy? Actually, it is. Um, but it's hard to see in my life, like because I am so not loving in so many ways. I agree. Leadership in the new age means you, you know, Aquarius is about the individual where we have all tried to be alike and then be more popular amongst each other. It's inside out in the age of Aquarius. In the age of Aquarius, the more unique you are, like the more interesting you are, and the more you become, if you want to say popular, but spoken, everyone knows of you. It's not like a fame, it's like a oh, everyone knows that person. But we don't, I don't think it's a celebratory because everyone's so focused on themselves, everyone wants to make themselves great. They don't care what other people are doing, really, except just know how far they are. I mean, for the most part, you don't need other people because when you're in a competition with yourself to be brighter, there's nothing more like pleasurable than that. When you outdo yourself, that's what we really want to do, is really outshine ourselves to show off to ourselves on the inside.

SPEAKER_01 48:33

No one will ever get me on board with saying that someone should not be living the way they want to live. I will never agree with anyone, I don't care who the fuck you are, you'll never get me on board with that type of rhetoric or with anything. Yeah, saying, Well, they shouldn't be doing it's no, or they keep it to themselves. None of your fucking business. Keep your fucking opinions to yourself. No one wants to see your fucking pop belly and your beer gut and out. So put that away. So don't say somebody else should keep their how they are, their lifestyle, to themselves. And I dealt with that by being gay. Oh, well, I don't probably be gay, I just don't want to see it. Well, who are you to not want to see things? I don't want to see you, you know, and so and you'll never get me on board about trans people, whoever people are so one point percent of our our our population as that's a major issue in our world, but they shouldn't exist and be who they need to be. You know, you'll never get me on board with that. That's not a Republican-Democrat thing, that is not a liberal conservative bullshit thing. That's humane for me, as as and you can't as uh meeting Aquarius tell me something different, you know, and so and they don't people don't deserve more your you know than another person. We all deserve to live the same way we all want to live, and that's that's the simplicity of what leadership is, is helping to support that. If you're trying to fragment people as not being humane, you're not leading, you're you're being part of the problem. Yep, and that's why I'm very heated now about the political stuff, and because it's like it's embedded everywhere at this point now, and and where we look, so it's hard to not have an opinion or have a feeling about what's going on because it's it's embedded everywhere right now, it's immersed in every aspect of our of our well-being, so to speak, at this point.

SPEAKER_02 50:04

So yeah, well, force us to be and you're losing the game. Look, while that's happening, the thing is, I don't think people realize how much they have been deliberately messed with with mind games and distractions to where it leaves most of the players on the field pretty much picking their butt and confused, and the rest of the ones just right past them, and that's because you're all worried about anything else to be worried about anything else other than yourself is a waste of life. I'm not saying beyond caring about it for two.

SPEAKER_01 50:31

That's but to me, that's exploitation because I know well we can bully and pick on a uh a minority group because there's not enough of them to fight really fight back and that's not focusing on you. Yeah, I just said you have to focus on picking on someone is not focusing on yourself, right? No, no, but here I'm saying about I'm talking about you're saying about people being manipulated, right, with media and stuff in our government to kind of be persuaded and distributed.

SPEAKER_02 50:50

I just oh, dude, the whole goddamn carnival ride is full of it. I mean, whether you go to like public health or you go to school, you have multiple choice, yeah, it's everywhere telling us what to be everywhere, right?

SPEAKER_01 51:00

Right. What I'm saying is is that they pick they use these minority groups as a big issue because they know that the groups aren't big enough to really fight back, so it's exploitation.

SPEAKER_04 51:08

I agree, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 51:08

It's not about trans or these people, it's about like we're gonna raw you up about something to keep you divisive, and so it's to me that's like exploitation, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 51:15

And I don't like that either. Yep, and while they're doing that, they're calling you an exploiter. So seriously, like you're calling me what you are, you know, like it's just it's a mind trap. Well, how do we I'll go to the next question? How can we lead while still protecting the individual?

SPEAKER_01 51:31

That's easy. Well, that's exactly what I'm talking about. Because an individual is every walk of life, you know, and like who would you say I don't agree with it? Who fucking cares what you agree with? Who could you you have the morale, you're the only source, divine source of God? So protecting individual means everybody, people you don't agree with. You know, I I love people who say I may not agree, but they have a at least have a right to be who they want to be. Great, you don't have to agree. Your agreements is irrelevant, but at least you support the right for someone to be who they want to be. That's protecting the individual.

SPEAKER_02 51:58

You know, I think part of that is like there's a myth out there that there's not win-win, that something has to pay. That's bullshit. You know, compromise is not compromise. The truth of the matter is, people want different things. And when I try to actually work out deals, people are fine, they don't want this. They don't want when even when you're kids, you're like, you didn't want that nasty candy bar. You're sure glad Glenn got it. Like, nobody wants what you want most of the time, but the way the nature reality is set up, it's like it's set up for variety everywhere. So it's like we're not even we have to step back and really look at life ourselves for a minute. And so, how do you leave while still protecting the individual? You have to consider yourself and you have to consider the next individual. You have to always consider someone else beside yourself. If you want to look out for the individual, how would your mom like them laws? You know, it's like, and if you can't find one, if if you can't find one that doesn't suit everyone, you're not very creative.

SPEAKER_01 52:48

But that leads me to the simple, simple moral sec, you know, sentence of treat others as you want to be treated. There's so many people like, oh, that woman deserved to be shot by eyes, she shouldn't have protested. But what that would what if that was your daughter? Yeah, does that change your perspective? You know, um, what if your son was the one that shot that girl? Would you approve and say, well, you know, defend him? And or would you feel like, oh my gosh, like, you know, like so you we start to start thinking this old, old moral sent you know, cliches that we've heard growing up when you start like really starting to understand what that means to be that way and treating others as you want to be treated? Because what if your son was gay? What if your son your daughter was trans? And you know, it it doesn't really hit home until you experience it. And I see so much ignorance of people not wanting to understand it because they haven't been around it, and that's plaguing our country, it's plaguing our consciousness. So protecting the individual means, yeah, to start with the self, but you the only way you really know about your own individual rights is understanding how another person deserves the same.

SPEAKER_02 53:43

I gotta come out of the closet though and tell you how what I really feel, which is that uh I think if that stuff's happening or if they're banging on your door, if I says on your door, you asked for it. Somewhere you did. I know how it works. Everything bad that's happened to me, I asked for. It's hard to accept I asked for it. I finally see where I asked for it. But I think the universe is designed to bring you exactly what you asked for, and what you ask for is in the way you treat yourself. You must be banging on your own door inside. You must there must be something just like that happening inside of you, and that's the way you're treating yourself. The way ICE is treating that house, that's the way you're treating yourself. And honestly, it sounds crazy, but look at it next time in anyone's life. Look to see if something happens to you, ask yourself, have you been that way to yourself? Kind of I'm not saying those people get off the hook or anything, but when you actually even like go and talk to these people after these events, a lot of times they're like, I don't know what the fuck out over me. This isn't my life at all. Like for a lot of times, that person who looked crazy on the news or whatever, they were in a like a moment of insanity themselves. They, you know, it's like almost being pulled into it by fate, honestly, not making it off the hook, like you know, saying it's an excuse. But at the end of the day, when you look at this, like this is improbable, really. And I think it's all designed to teach and learn, you know, but it's based on seeing who you are, the way you treat yourself is what happens.

SPEAKER_01 54:57

I think. But now it also begs the question as too do we need leaders in the edge of Aquarius, or will people become their own leaders and stop being followers? And so I I really feel like it's gonna be a collective leadership. I really feel that's gonna be more of what we've experienced that you know, we're gonna realize he needs to, you know, you know, do the breaks, he's gotta do the oil. We have to understand like each part is actually a valuable part to for all of us to lead as a group and as a society, as a species. Yeah, and it's the fragmentation that keeps us behind and like really celebrating everybody's own qualities and what they bring to the table. So that's where I think leadership's gonna happen. So I find leadership is gonna be happened through through being supported, actually, and that creates leadership because we don't have much supportive roles, so you know there'll be more mentorship than there'll be leadership, there'll be more mentorship.

SPEAKER_02 55:43

I think that's the future of the age queries. Like everyone is mentoring, everyone is growing, as everyone's growing. Can you just leave like the kids to all take care of themselves? Fuck no, there's kids who are brand new here. There's always education, you always have to have education because there's always new souls coming to this planet. So we're gonna have souls that want to hurt people, even when we have spaceships and that land in our house, like because those idiots are brand new to consciousness and they're starting over. It honestly is that way to some degree, and we have to stop you know acting like it's bad. This is evolution. We have to be honest with ourselves about where levels are and what levels people are at, and everyone you know recognizes people at that level and support them at that level, not put them down to the levels. I mean, that's the maturing our humanity is waiting to have deep. But it's we're talking about it now. That's good.

SPEAKER_01 56:25

Yeah, I mean, again, I just feel like you know, we create leaders by supporting people because you support people, then they feel they feel that they can lead in the role they're intended to be in in life. They feel like they can express themselves the way they intend to to be part of the expression of creation. So for we support, we lead by supporting. And and we don't do that as a collector.

SPEAKER_02 56:46

I agree. I look at it a little differently. It's like I lead by leading myself, and if I lead myself, um, I will be an impression to others that want to lead themselves. I want to help leaders lead themselves. If you have a vision for how to fix this, shit, let me help you. But I'm leading you, leading you. I mean, I'm helping you lead yourself. I don't want you to turn around and look at me. I got me, you got you. And I think it's a different perspective, you know, as we move forward.

SPEAKER_01 57:09

We're talking about the people who are maybe always been revering leaders or saviors, you know, in that regard. People who are kind of like in that loop of the collective, we're just like, I need a president, I need and realizing that let's support them to find their role so they feel empowered and therefore they can lead in their own retrospect. And then we kind of break down the residue of the age of Christmas savior, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 57:29

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 57:30

Because we still have that karmic residue lingering still. And so an age of supposed to break that, you know.

SPEAKER_02 57:37

It's laziness, it's we have to, it's like it's take care of me, take care of me. It's not even it's it's actually fucking us being babies and one sugar daddies and shit, is what it is. It's not good. Let's go to a quick commercial when we come back. We have a final promotion, and then we'll say goodbye. Sirius Joy Academy is now offering gift certificates called gifted scholarships in six-month, nine-month, and one-year increments. This is the first time we've ever offered this. Sirius Joy is the most accurate astrology service in the world. And now you can stun your loved ones with a spiritual mirror that helps them every day. Visit SiriusJoy.academy to make your purchase at SiriusJoy.academy. Available now. Well, there's been a good uh official beginning, I think, to our Saturday night vibe. Um it happened in Aquarius, of course. The vibe comes out in Aquarius, it's gonna be your birthday this year, too. I mean this month, of course, this year, but it's like it feels very like the new vibe. And I love our conversation tonight because I think that's the kind of conversation you can have on a late night Saturday. You can be honest and like shit, what a week, you know.

SPEAKER_01 58:47

Shit, what if what have past what have past six years that we need to talk about we've been saying, right?

SPEAKER_02 58:51

But I think it's I mean, I think we put on our suits into the right moment, you know. Um, you know, sir, pick your favorite mock tail before you come to the show, everyone, and just sit back and relax. Let's talk about things. I think that's really where we're going next. You and I, and uh, two little men slowly getting older and older, bitching on camera like the Muppet guys. That's our legacy. Um, any parting words of wisdom, sir, or anything you want to promote?

SPEAKER_01 59:13

You know, um, no, I'm not a promoter. Um, just excited to release for people to hear my new song. It's it's you know, I've other songs. I'm right working on my next one. I have like a whole album's worth that I have to finish. So you heard you heard a very, very rough version. So when you hear the final, you'll be like, oh, okay. This is this is I'm excited.

SPEAKER_02 59:29

I get to hear it after the show.

SPEAKER_01 59:30

Yeah, and so but I would tell people like, really, if it no hesitation, like again, like we create time, so why would you create later to do something you want to do? Just dive in, do it. You know, there's been no expectations of when you want to do something. If you want to do something fun, if you want to do something creative, just like do it, and you can still maintain your job. Not everything has to be like, oh, I can't make money at it. How about it just enriching your life? Sometimes you just gotta do things to enrich your life and enrich your soul life, then you find other ways to make more money too, because you're creating more value. So I just like tell people don't wait to do something and don't let money be the issue if you can't make it that stops you from it just enriching your soul with an experience because that will lead you to more abundance.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:09

So I agree with you, and I have uh you know say the same thing in a different way. Um, I think about this whole week is that it's the week really where you are going to come to realize where it is that you need to commit to yourself. And as soon as you commit to yourself, the very next thing that happens is you're ready for the world to change. And so the revolution is coming. We have a full moon in Leo at step 13. That is a real missionary number. That's the number of that is your anti-birthday full moon, buddy. The full moon will be exactly opposite of you. This is your anti-birthday full moon, which means that you will probably, you know, throw throw a fit about something, and uh, it's a good fit, it's a fit that makes you realize why am I always getting upset about this? You just come in this moment, you're like, I'm done, I'm done, and that's what this full moon is gonna be. Uh, so it's really the really is the first act of the new era. You know what I'm calling it now? The second lifetime. I'm saying this is our second lifetime. We're about to start a second lifetime. Just the first what happened? That was our first lifetime. We're doing a double here. This is a double, is why I realized now that I'm here, I'm like, this is a fucking double.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:10

I just did this, and that makes sense because like I just feel like this new energetic cycle begins. So that makes complete sense. Like it will it will seem like a new life.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:18

Yeah, it will seem like you will not recognize me from the pre-shots of this right now. You'll you know, you know that we're we always thought we were gonna speak easy the whole time. Um, and and that comes up to me too. I mean, I'm changing, we've been changing serious joy incredibly, and we're actually moving serious joy alive to tomorrow on Sunday. Um, we're doing it at 4 p.m. Pacific, 7 p.m. uh excuse me, 4 p.m. Eastern, 7 p.m. Pacific. So we're doing it in the afternoon. So we're gonna start our work. I'm gonna be on the on the air, Scott, from Sunday to Thursday now. And I'm gonna give myself uh Friday and Saturdays to travel and do things I need to do and meet people and you know have a normal life. So I'm like, who knew? Right? So, but also I like it's perfect because I can say hi. I mean, I feel like it should be there Sundays, like I should be there encouraging and on that day that people do think think to themselves. And the great thing is it's two hours, it's live. We have guests on, and it's a bit more spiritual than the weekday ones, and then soul horoscopes, the new version of Yamashate today, soul horoscopes is then at 7 p.m. Eastern, 4 p.m. So rolls right into soul horoscopes, gonna be more sweet, it's all worked out.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:13

Nice, and I just want to close two with two cards. I got the world card and the three of cups. Oh, I like how they're so it's about you know celebrating with your fellow human. It's it's gonna be a year of it's to be a year of community, and so the world is emphasizing more about the people of the world, so like just people of different walks of life, and I feel like you're gonna feel that summertime of this this year too. Um, and finding new community people. So embrace that. Let's get excited for that. Let's let's just start fantasizing about celebrating with people instead of fighting against them.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:39

I honestly think that for some it's hell, and for some it's a party, and I mean a party because I am meeting people day to day in Palm Springs, you know, like where you just moved recently that I'm in the same vibe that people I would if the world's gonna go down. I'm glad you're here, buddy. I'm glad you're here, you know, whatever. It's kind of but it really is finally some camaraderie. I think that's what people realize. We're all about to make a lot of friends and we're about to make a lot of love, too. I think there's a lot of true love happening on the planet, so lots to talk about at this late hour. Well, it's been fun, I guess. Uh, we're leaving out loud now from a bar, so we're it's escalating, I guess. Is that is that evolution to speak easy, is what it is. We're gonna speak easy. That's all the point, right? Hiding that we're doing something fun. Um, and we're sitting across from each other in the booth. Yeah, that we're doing changes here. I was asking if we can have like an occasional personal walk by, but I think it'd be too distracting, actually. So, yeah, we'll talk about this on the way you go. Y'all, you know, join us in 2026 every week. It's this time on Saturdays. We'd love to be hanging out with you and wrapping up the week. And as we always say, don't put up with any bullshit, lead out loud. See you next week. Good night, guys. I like it. I like the violet too. That looks so good. Can you put like my family's pictures in there? Dude, that means you know I love violet and purple.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:53

It's like my color. Oh, I know. I know, lovely. I think you get like a print. Probably, it's like light light, like look. Everything looks good, like everything. Good, yeah, that worked.