LOL - Ep 94 - Pushing Past Politics

A LIVE Spiritual Talkshow that unites spiritual superpowers for weekly psychic investigations and predictions.

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Motley Mystical Crew:
⭐️ Christopher Witecki  @SiriusJoyTV | https://siriusjoy.com/
⭐️ Scott Cruz  @ScottCruz | https://scottcruzpm.com/
⭐️ David Palmer @theleokingdom | https://www.theleoking.com/

Directed by Morgan Obendorfer
Produced by Erica El Hilali

Transcript

SPEAKER_04 0:02

From office politics to our broken political system, politics isn't working for anyone. Tonight on leading out loud, we're pushing past politics loud.

SPEAKER_06 0:48

I'm Steppas Choller and channel Sensei Chris with Hecke. And I'm David Palmer, the Leo King.

SPEAKER_16 0:56

And I'm Scott Cruz, psychic medium and mentor with ScottCruzPM.com. How are you guys doing? How's your week been this week?

SPEAKER_06 1:03

Uh it was tough. Anybody go? Yeah, this is a tough week. We're in a shit show, really. I mean, of astrology will tell you that. I mean, but there's a lot of changing things changing in the big picture. I think what's changing is that a life is dying. The life that we were survivaling, trying to survive. See, words aren't working, but the life of fight or flight, I think is really dying. Like I am here in this microphone right now. Um, no, ultimately, we have an ego change in Aries. Aries is always tough because it's where you are strong or where you are not strong, and that itself is being redefined. What's strength is is being redefined. I mean, how would you put it, David?

SPEAKER_04 1:38

Yeah, I mean, I think it's it's feeling like a really big sandstorm, and the sand's getting in between your eyes, and you have to keep walking forward, and it's hot. Yeah, but and so it's like we we have the ability to move forward, but it's not it's coming with very Saturn-based stuff, like Neptune. There's confusion with Saturn structure, but with Mars coming into Aries here, uh, it's now there's like gonna be like this energy pushing us like even farther ahead into this. So I hope you have sand goggles on, you know. I don't know, yeah, it's definitely swamp energetically, like with the with the psychic vibes right now and what you're feeling energetically.

SPEAKER_16 2:22

It's definitely swampy, you know. That's the best way I could say it's like like walking in the water, you know. And so I and I did I definitely feel for me, you know, a lot of my realizations have been like, Are you taking care of yourself? And it's like, no, I gotta keep going, like you all trying to go forward. And I feel something holding me back, and I feel like that holding back energy is like there's other things to take care of right now, and I think that now's a time of priority. And I think of what is what are your major priorities right now? Um, and maybe perhaps we're making things that are not a priority, and so I think it's putting that in gear right now because I feel like by mid-April, things are gonna like pick the fuck up for a lot of people, and so I think right now get your shit in order, not like you're passing away, but you know, but get it in order as far as like your priorities. And so many of us, I know a lot of us have been spending so much time on things that are not really that shouldn't be a priority, you know, mentality and you know, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 3:11

From trying to win the race, right, Dave is trying to win the race.

SPEAKER_04 3:14

Yeah, I mean, I think that's been the issue of Mars and Pisces is this we're we we're cutting away so much that's really not gonna align with us spiritually with this new life, this new world, but also it's a re it's a reaffirmation of who we are at the highest level now. So you know, as we've been doing that, there's also been this background energy that's cutting away. I think this is the biggest cut we've ever felt spiritually of things that are not in alignment, just getting you have to surrender to and just let it happen. And that's a weird experience to be building the new front door that you're you're holding open while you're closing the back door at the same time, you know. But that back door's closing here this week, and I think it's gonna be like that's what he said.

SPEAKER_06 4:07

It's for the better, it's just hard to it's hard to believe it, you know. Um, and you have to let go of a lot of the things that have been, you know, your your teddy bears the whole time, and many of those you know, things that are teddy bears are actually you coping with issues with problems with shadow. You know, we've been holding on to things that were coping devices for other problems, and so those those old problems are coming to a close, but we don't have anything new to hold on to. So it's this really weird in-between moment. Um, and you know, I just think you're right, Scott. It's it's about priorities. This is Aries energy, which is step nine. Step nine is when you take action, you go, and when it comes to taking action, you can only do so many things at once. You're forced to prioritize at that point. You can only run so many, you know, ships to the moon, you can only do so many things. You're limited when it comes to action, so it forces you to choose what's important and what's not, you know. So it yeah, you have that funnel.

SPEAKER_16 4:55

Yeah. But the the thing too is like, you know, we talk about this and we're making some jokes about it, but like that's releasing the crutches, right? Because there's a lot of people that made priorities of things that even though they know it shouldn't have been, it was was something that made them feel valuable, was something that made them feel secure for some reason. And I see a lot of people who have been giving, giving, giving, giving, giving, uh, Christopher, and they are starting to realize I gave so much. I'm kind of left with nothing now. I've been burnt, and so I made people other people a priority, and so now I just make myself a priority. And so, yeah, and I was making a reads for the Taurus energies, Christopher. And it's like really it's really an identity shift this year for y'all, you know, and really come to understand what's important and and really focusing myself, you know. It's huge for Taurus this year.

SPEAKER_06 5:38

Thanks for telling me. No, it's a I would say it's down to nothing, but I think that's because Taurus is needed to burn it down to burn it down to the ground. Aries is Taurus's actual self-conf there, our confidence, our faith. Our faith is Aries. So we come to the planet already with faith locked in and ego, like this is our faith, and that's what it is. And you know, it's like I always say a bull and a rowboat. It's very uncomfortable to be changing a rock solid faith when you're still trying to produce a manifest. So it's quite a trick. But I think what's going to happen is Tauruses are gonna pull out. I mean, we're pulling out of a lot of investments, and we've been financing a lot of things, and people underestimate what we were doing for them. But we're all kind of now having to streamline and cut off the things that didn't have a return.

SPEAKER_04 6:17

Yeah, and I think that's where Uranus being at the last degree of Taurus. We saw Uranus come in May 15th, 2018. Here we are in beginning April of 2026, and so almost eight years now of dealing with Uranus and Taurus. And so when it comes to holding your standard, holding your values, there's another test. You have to raise the bar to the highest that you've ever done before, and that I think teams well with Mars seeing the sextile to Uranus right now is that in order for things to actually move forward, you have to know who you are and define it, but then you got to know how to hold that energy and also surrender to the things that aren't gonna be going with that higher vibe now of your of your values, and so I think this is a really important time because there is this unstability, instability around when it comes to like holding your value, knowing that value, and also Uranus and Taurus. It makes the world, it makes the physical reality feel unstable, and you have to get used to it. You have to like realize, hey, I'm okay because I understand my values and I know how to love the things in my life that I value the most, and you can't be so afraid of it being lost right now. Whatever's being taken out of your life is definitely a blessing.

SPEAKER_16 7:36

And I think, like you said, the unstable energy is actually a blessing because that's saying nothing's permanent, right? And so that's a good thing. That means the unknown is not is obviously not permanent, right? And so I think a lot of people are having that that challenge of really understanding their their true spiritual sovereignty. That's the thing for Leos, David, is the spiritual sovereignty. You guys have been really focusing on how it was like to be the humanitarian, you know, to be in the age of Aquarius, and you know, come together with community, and and now you're starting to recognize how can I now be my sovereign self without leading, without being amongst other people. So I think this is a huge, a wonderful breakthrough for Leos as well, David. So this is wonderful spiritual sovereignty for you as well. Um, I think we're all kind of in that position right now of finding that sovereignty of the soul. And that means that sovereignty is we're pushing away all those shitty beliefs. You know, it took me so many years to purge the Christian ideology out of my subconscious. Years of guilt and punishment. And it wasn't until like two years I finally nipped it all in the butt. And we all have that underlining with our previous incarnations too. And and so I think we're breaking that this year. That's the innovation for 2026 that I'm so excited about. So I both you guys are having that windstorm, but oh my gosh, you guys have so much beyond this year um of of a huge change for both y'all. So I'm excited for your changes.

SPEAKER_06 8:53

Well, Taurus is have Aquarius in 10,000, so we will own the age of Aquarius. Well, I love that. You know, we'll we'll build it. Uh Aries is we'll do the will actually run it. You know, it's kind of interesting to see Virgos keep it alive um within six houses, and Leo's marry it, you know. Like so, Leo's now marry the royalty, the Aquarius is in the seventh house because everyone has Aquarius somewhere, so it's interesting how each of the signs takes a role in the age of Aquarius.

SPEAKER_04 9:17

Yeah, yeah, and I think that's where there's a lot of ping-ponging going because we what we've been seeing for year after year over the last six years is all the planets within just less than 180 degrees. That's what started in 2020 with all these big planets all just so close together. Now we're starting to see them break apart, yeah. And so now it's not just like feeling like we're condensed in this one little thing, even though the world will make you feel that way right now. That's actually not the truth, right? Like the truth is that your life's opening up now, but it really is though, with all this Aries reminding you that you do have to pick a path that doesn't mean you don't have a lot of options, it just doesn't mean you can't have 15 things going on. You have to like pick the path and dedicate yourself to the path, and then there's lots of options on that path. But if you're gonna try and do 15 quests right now that are all different that don't make sense and don't align with the self, that's where I think people are getting lost is they're trying to like, well, I want to do that and I want to do this and I want to do that. And it's like, well, where's the central hub of who you are? It's gonna work if it all enmeshes in the right way, you know.

SPEAKER_16 10:29

And I'm glad you said that. I'm glad you said that because what people don't understand is we built we form psychic connections with people, and so especially we've been involved with, and a lot of people are still feeding these connections unconsciously, and that unconscious connections that we have with people does create anxiety and does pull for our energy from our energetic sphere. And so I would say, you know, some people have to do the core cutting bullshit. I'd say resolve the connections, resolve those relationships that you had, resolve the idea of why you went through that chapter, understand what that chapter is teaching you now so that you can actually close down the psychic connection, but still think about it and process it in a way that's where it's a notch on your belt. So many people want to forget about their past. I've been very vocal about embracing the past this this you know this month, because that's defining you now. And so we don't want to run away from it. We don't want to cord cut it, we want to stop feeding it, and so we can actually move forward in the future and understand what connections do we have open, what connections are we still feeding unconsciously that we haven't fully evolved from, you know, and that goes that you're saying before about like break finding the hub, you know, find the source of you, you know.

SPEAKER_04 11:31

So it's I love that because that that's definitely where right now I feel if you it's not about cutting it off completely, but with Pluto and Aquarius, you do have to find the new version of whatever that relationship might be, whether it's a job, a person, and and have at least like this like okay, like that stuff's all done, but you know, there's still a connection in this way, and I don't have to like think about that energy anymore being like putting so much resource to it right where I don't need it, you know, and that's gonna come in handy in the months ahead when we finally see like in just weeks, we're gonna see Uranus coming to joy Gemini, but we're gonna see Uranus and Gemini trying Pluto this year into next year, and this is what everybody in the 60s was waiting for during their conjunction and the the mid-60s, because this is really where you know that's gonna be the most important thing that you just brought out is like if your energy is all over the place and really like dribbling just so much out to every single place without having that understood, it's like tightening it up and clean cleaning the energy and to make it more efficient too. It's like spiritually efficient.

SPEAKER_06 12:44

Yep. I think I think the reason why we had so many things going is because we're coming to the end, it was getting boring, you know. We just kept adding on more topics. That's honestly true. I mean, you know, we're coming to the end, and as you as you come to the end, you try to occupy yourself with more interesting things, and there's just not enough. Everything was shallow, everything was so damn shallow. They had to have 20 puddles, you know, they have something of a bath kind of thing. But I think what'll happen now is we're gonna go so deep. I mean, we're going so deep. Just AI is a good example of how that is, but just looking at like where I see astrology going, where I see step astrology going as it goes I go down the rabbit hole, it's like it's I don't know how where it ends. There's so much to uncover, so much to map about the fifth dimension and everything, you know, ascending to that dimension and what that means. I think that we're gonna be uh our minds are gonna be blown at from this point on. So I had a real break when your Oswald is Gemini. I loved it, I absolutely loved it. It felt so good. And so I'm waiting for that bitch to get on my sign any second now. Um I think it's is it 29 yeah? It's at 29. Yeah, it's multidimensional right now. It is definitely broadcasting on all floors, and then there's it will be at 29 at the same time the sun will be at 29 Aries, yeah, and there'll be like three planets at seven at the same time. Um, there's a magical window at step 29, like something happens that day, something pretty profound. And like there's you know, the orbs are really fascinating. So there's like five planets at seven at that same moment. So it's interesting, the moon including. So something's going on that final day. I think that day we like you know, we hop ship maybe we there's some sort of dimensional shift on that day, actually, on the 19th. So we'll have to see, we'll have to talk about it when after it happens to see what we felt. Yeah, I mean, I I think I'll go on.

SPEAKER_13 14:20

No, I was just concurring.

SPEAKER_06 14:22

You feel it psychically? I've been feeling a weird, you know, weird burp so I was feeling a date coming up, and then it turned out to be I think just my date, you know. So sometimes that's the case as a mystic. You're like, Yeah, I feel something coming. It's like it's for you, it's not for the world. But um, uh, I do feel a sense of the word giddy up. I mean, this Mars and Aries is gonna speed things up, and what I have felt from the beginning about this time is that things just like like a bat out of hell go flying out, and it was to after this. I mean, the war started before this, so I was like, Oh, I would have thought the wars would have been the bat out of hell, but I think there's energetically something that's gonna speed up. I mean, do you guys pick up something like that? An event or something?

SPEAKER_04 14:56

Yeah, I mean, to me, it's it's it's really this Mars and Aries is gonna get a lot of things going, but it's the Uranus Gemini in the weeks ahead on the 26th of April, and that that's right after that new moon that we're gonna have at the end, or it's right with the new moon that's gonna be happening in Aries at the end. That's the point to where I look at Uranus and Gemini like a supercharger, like on top of a motor, because it's bringing it's force, it's like force induction air into the cylinders, and just let's just force air and fuel in. And and there's definitely that energy coming. And so I think right now some people might think nothing's happening, it's gonna be all happening so fast. I think definitely the war thing is not going away, but I think that there's really positive things for humanity and for us to really get out of these, like kind of like where we feel like we're stuck when we're actually the most free we've ever been. And I think that's gonna be the big thing to focus on.

SPEAKER_16 15:57

Yeah, and I think people also need to be be aware that they shouldn't we should not be deluded by movement so much because a lot of times we might not be physically moving, but we're moving so much in our minds, in our soul, and our spirit, and compartmentalizing things and moving things around, and there needs to be time and space for that too, before we press play and things start tangibly moving. So, right now I've been telling people like like like we were saying before by priority organized things in your in your brain, your subconscious, in your soul, right? Because when things pick up, you want to make sure you're not gonna be in a tunnel world of what the fuck, you know, because that could be very chaotic for some. And so, yeah, we're excited times, and but we're also what I've noticed more so now is that we're all collectively going through the same stuff, you know, different expressions, but we're all collectively getting sick, we're all collectively realizing a lot more, we're all collectively being being in tune. So I'm I'm noticing a more of a collective thread in our collective consciousness right now that where it's actually demonstrating how much we actually are on the same page right now than we've ever been in history, I would say. And that's just gonna continue getting better. But I think those of us who are evolved and evolving, we have to wait and kind of take the time for those who are catching up and so forth and help and assist, you know. And so, yeah, there's gonna be, I mean, we're doing a we've been doing a major purge for the past six years, guys. So it's like it's always gonna be very challenging and very dynamical, you know.

SPEAKER_06 17:14

I have a sense people are gonna stay, some people still stay on the farmland, you know, and they just will not, you know, budge and we'll be living side by side with people who just don't evolve. Um, I think that's what happens. Like you like 1900, you know, you said David, that you know, like the jet engine injecting fuel into the engine. I mean, like the jet was literally invented when Uranus was in Gemini. You know, I agree. We're gonna probably have a propulsion system, I bet a new propulsion system coming out.

SPEAKER_04 17:35

V2 rocket, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 17:36

Yeah, we'll probably have something like that coming out. And uh, and I've seen Geminis actually flipping out the last couple weeks where they're like, I'm literally saying to me, You're blowing my mind, and I'm like, No, your mind was locked down, dude. Like they were thinking in these like loops because Gemini's kind of think you know horizontally, um, and they're very brilliant horizontally, you know. But now your ass is going, nope, there's vertical too, and you can check you can switch between horizontals, and they're like, Oh my god. So there, there's they're up for a real trip. It's interesting to watch them because they're all I think Gemini is more brilliant than they've ever been, frankly. I think humans are more intelligent they've ever been. Uh, so it's not like they're behind, but they uh in all their intelligence, you're about to see them discover more than they didn't know they had.

SPEAKER_04 18:16

Yeah, and I think um with Uranus Gemini, it's kind of interesting to bring up the Nazis because their technology was far superior than anybody in the world. They actually created the first supercomputer as well during Uranus and Gemini. Most people don't know, you can look it up, but they had a they had a computer, they had there's also evidence that they created what we know as the flying saucer today, right? Like the Nazis, right? But it's kind of weird that it's a time to where even if you have the best technology and you're using it, you fail. And I think that's what's kind of the weird part about it, is you might be you don't need to be so afraid because you know it's like none of that was successful for Germany, and that's why America created Operation Paperclip and stole, and same thing with the USSR, all their scientists to bring them to their countries, and now they play out in those two countries. I mean, if you think about Russia and the United States today, the two superpowers dealing with nuclear bombs and dealing with technology for military, it's all because of the Nazi people that were taken during the Uranus Gemini moments of their technology.

SPEAKER_06 19:23

And Eisenhower was smart, man. He went he he he he erased the troops in for you know, they're all racing for Moscow because they were all racing for the last resources they could steal. And pretty much Russia and United States split up the scientists, you know, and that was it, you know, it literally split up Berlin, you know, in two pieces two pieces, too. It's really interesting to see to think about that.

SPEAKER_04 19:40

Um, but here we are, you know, and that and that could happen with what we're seeing with Iran or even with Ukraine, like the because Ukraine is something that still hasn't been figured out, and that looks like a two like separating almost like how Berlin was the east and the west, and that's kind of what the proposals have been. So it's it's it's interesting that all the training for this crazy technology since 2022 has been happening in Ukraine with America, the West, NATO. They've been all using all that kind of weird stuff in Ukraine war against Russia, and then now it's like you know, let's just use it here in Iran. Like it's really weird.

SPEAKER_06 20:18

Jews were rescued, and then they made Jerusalem out of nothing. They just decided we're gonna make a country here called Jerusalem. They make Jerusalem at the end of that war, and here we are at this war, and now it's Jerusalem that's the aggressor against you know, saying it's money, and they're the ones making the technology, frankly. They have the all the genius, you know, from my understanding, all the hack technology and all the tech technology of like the web and the pagers, be careful the crutches too that they got. Yeah, uh it's interesting. It's times roll on. Uh, is it time speaking of that? Should we go to the headlights?

SPEAKER_16 20:46

Yeah, we should actually. The first one we have is uh high school student invents a filter that eliminates 96% of microplastics from drinking water. System uses a ferrofluid, a magnetic liquid. Uh water flows through the device, the ferro fluid binds to microplastic particles, then a magnet, then pulls the ferrofluid with attached plectoplastics out of the water stream, which is interesting. Uh so you know it it's great and all, but uh my thing is like, wouldn't it just be easier if the corporations stopped producing things in so much plastic? It's always us to try to figure out how to do the recycling thing. And I remember the grocery stores, paper, plastic. It's like, I'll take paper, but all your groceries is bagged in plastic shit. So, you know, I really think we should start enforcing corporations to put things in paper and back into glass and be a lot easier. Otherwise, we wouldn't have to be doing all these discoveries, you know. So it's great, but I think that corporations are the ones responsible.

SPEAKER_06 21:39

I agree. I think it's Rockefeller, goddamn Rockefeller. Yeah, goddamn Rockefeller. It was he he's the one that pushed all oil in all the stuff. He pushed oil into medicine, he pushed oil, he pushed all into all this stuff. It was him, um, the Rockefeller. But uh, and and as a result, now we're going crazy with it. I you know, I take out the garbage now, I can't fit my garbage in my garbage because I have so much plastic that is like. Containers that I can't really squish because they come they pop up back up, and everything you buy in the store is in plastic. I mean, we're eating plastic all the time, so it's it's it's a problem, you know, it's a real problem. It is a problem. Yeah, kid.

SPEAKER_04 22:12

I was gonna say that like one of the biggest issues with microplastics is is in reproductive for male and female. That's right. Exactly. So we're seeing the biggest decline right now in the western countries about birth rates, and we're the ones using all the plastic. So I think this is the right step to start, and at least you know what you gotta give credit to these younger kids coming up with this kind of stuff, but I think you're right, like it can't just be this, right? That's not gonna do enough, it's everywhere, and I think that's gonna be where we have to really start thinking, like, you know, it also for men, especially men who are on a lot of microplastics, it takes their testosterone to the lowest level.

SPEAKER_06 22:53

Is that the problem?

SPEAKER_04 22:54

Oh yeah, and and for for for females, it it it it messes with their estrogen and it messes at the same time, like bringing them to not want to really step into their feminine energy. So I think it's really probably one of the more important things happening because I know we like to look at what's the problem, like kind of out there that's like being shold to us, but the real issues are the ones that are happening in front of our all the time, you know.

SPEAKER_06 23:21

It's globalism, it's globalism. It's the fact that they want to have globalism, they want to have country plants, you know, plants over here, plants over here in like low-cost countries, they want to fly it out on gas and fuel put over here. They have to put it in plastic so it stays safe because there's men who want to run the whole world instead of just letting it happen locally. That's the real issue. It's globalism.

SPEAKER_16 23:39

But we have to get a cocktail of shit. So the plastic, the petroleum, the metals that are coming from the chemtrails. I mean, it's everywhere. We're in a cocktail of shit. And so, I mean, I'm glad people are being focused more on these things too. And but we have to find ways to combat that. I always say, you know, it's really good right now, especially with this horrible air coil we've all been having, just take quercetin every every week, you know, with vitamin D and zinc, like take that to combat the metals to build up your immune system. And and we're also being tackled by the gut too. Our gut is like fill is a core of our of our health. People think it's your immune system, like the gut. And so we're getting tackled with stripping nutrients from our gut, right? And so we're being like filled with this cocktail of crap that we need to be very aware of with our health, and and that also affects our cognitive functions too, depression, right? And so we have to be aware of all these different avenues that we're getting infiltrated by these these toxins and and how to really purge and combat that, you know.

SPEAKER_04 24:33

Yeah, and I think it's hard to be it's it's hard because all these people that make plastics everywhere, but it's like these old people from back in the day love their silly putty and their play-doh so much because it's so easy to make plastic and just instead of actually real things, like, and that's what's difficult is if you think everything, whether it's a speaker, I mean, I'm just like looking around, it's like everything's plastic, right? You can look around wherever you're at right now, you have plastic somewhere right next to you. Everywhere, and that's the problem is that every factory is retrofitted for plastics, and then the whole it's so funny that when they make all this crude oil, and then they actually turn it into whether it's fuel or they turn it into diesel, a lot of it is turned into the plastics, right? And so, like, it's like 30 of what they do when there's rods when they're so it's like we've built the whole entire thing around oil, not just for our cars, not just for diesel, not it's literally to make everything. And I swear it's like we live in a weird pedo PDF world, and they love silly putty, and they made that into plastic and they can't get over it. It's like and they like shiny. That's what's sad, especially having kids. Like, you have to think about that stuff.

SPEAKER_16 25:44

So, with my little ones, it's like yeah, we do even rubber can, you know, even rubber toys aren't rubber anymore, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_04 25:52

Right, but it's like a it's like a polyurethane, which people are wearing as clothes, which is just as bad, too. It's a microplastic as well. Yeah, thanks, Lego.

SPEAKER_06 26:02

She went to the next next headline, I think we're just yeah.

SPEAKER_16 26:06

Oh, yeah, and so uh so US and Israel declare a two-week ceasefire in Iran. Well, US, I think, did uh key condition iron must key condition Iran must immediately and safely reopen the Strait of Hamooz, uh critical for global oil shipments, and stop attacks on the US, Israel, and regional countries. I don't know. The whole two weeks thing is more of I think Trump kind of taking a step back. Anytime Trump says two weeks, we'll we're gonna forget about it. So that two-week kind of demand seems a little rare, but um, I I I don't sense this is gonna be resolved in two weeks. Iron has been pushing back, obviously, and kind of mocking our our uh administration. So I don't think it's gonna be over in two weeks. I I think they're not gonna be um relent on this as far as the opening of strategy communities. I think this is going on way beyond the two-week time frame.

SPEAKER_06 26:50

So um you should not trust the two weeks because this is war. We never tell the truth. I mean, look at any war and study the history, they were never putting out the truth. There's always a smoke screen to trick him to this and trick into that. In fact, trickery is like one of the biggest things they did in World War II is trying to trick Hitler and where troops were and they weren't. So I I wouldn't trust any headline or any timeline personally, but I also think you're right. I think you think this is gonna be over. This is a this is a Vietnam, and this this is not these people will not stop fighting. They're all all their culture is based on it, is staying alive and and surviving, you know. Um, so you look if you look at their step numbers and stuff too, it's all based on survival. So you're not gonna uh squash a country that's based on survival.

SPEAKER_16 27:31

There's just big we we pissed off so many other countries, so it's not just gonna be like okay, because so many other countries will be pissed off, they'd be pissed off NATO. Like, there's so many things that we've we've disrupted that there's gonna be a lot that we're gonna have to do to rebuild these relationships, you know, moving forward. So, you know, and I I I honestly feel I've said this before in 2024, I don't feel like this administration will feel its full term, you know, something will interrupt it or be a removal of that process. So this might be the thing that really initiates that. Um, you know, but again, we're still not talking about the Epstein files, we're still not diving deep into the Epstein files, even still, you know.

SPEAKER_04 28:08

So yeah, even though it's ironic that Iran is right, they actually put that out even in the statement yesterday, and the 10-point plan that Iran put out is all stuff we would never agree to. So to me, I think this was part of the setup to make American people like get on board with the war more because if you think about it, it's like the ceasefire was declared, but then Israel said they were on board and there were still missiles going off, but then Israel really just attacked Lebanon all day, and they're not right. And so, what's happened now, and now it's like nothing's really going. And then Iran stopped the straighter from us today, right? So the markets rallied again. It's like this, and so Trump does this every time now. Is he it's like very predictable? It was like very predictable to be like he's not gonna blow them up, he's gonna just say, No, another two weeks, another something, then the markets all rally, but then they all get fooled because everything's closed off. Iran is in control of it now, which never happened before. And now you have Israel not following it, and I feel like that's almost part of the plan to just be like, oh well, look at Iran. Look at they said that they were doing the right thing, but really they're not, and then now we go in, you know. It's like so to me, with Mars coming into Aries and all this Aries, there is no way that there is any diplomacy because it's all opposite of Libra, it is the opposite, it is war, and and we just have to call it spade to like it for real, and even just the fact that Mercury was squaring Trump's eclipse, sun and moon, right? Like right now, yeah, or yesterday, I follow Cards of Destiny was an ace of spades day, which is secrets and so forth. It's like this is definitely a moment for us to go, don't buy any of that. The false flag already is happening that there's a ceasefire, you know. Yeah, I agree.

SPEAKER_06 29:59

It's really was there ever diplomacy? I think it's been a game from the beginning. There was never, we've never, this has all been an act on TV, it's never been real. Even the Nuremberg trials were really for TV. You know, I think uh at the end of the day, uh, we've been faking it the whole time. Maybe what'll be refreshing is that we have the truth out there that we'll actually look at what's happening because we don't really really know. And I still say that most of this is you know orchestrated by economics of the World Bank settings. You know, I think there's a lot of things that go on beyond the scenes, just like you know, Henry Ford was a big contributor to Hitler, right? And so it was a lot of technology. IBM contributed to Hitler, he they made adding machines for Hitler, it's not as cut and dry as we we want to think.

SPEAKER_16 30:34

Sure. Well, you know, but everybody's eyes are glued though now, and I think that's the most important thing that people are starting to see and put putting the pieces together. Like I was saying, like last week, they're still using the same tactics, but we're kind of discover those old tactics. So I think as as a species, I think we're able to now shift where things are going with our you know perspective, with our control and our voices, because we're connected now on a global scale. I I'm surprised how much I could see what other people are doing in other countries and how similar we all are. So I think that helps with our species to shift things, and we're starting to realize we thought it was people screwing it up, that minorities are screwing it up. And we realize no, we're all seeing the same group of people who are in charge that are screwing it up, and people are starting to disassociate civilizations with their leaders now. Because before we just lump in the civilization with the leaders, and so we're starting to see that positive separation now. So I just think it's actually working in our favor in the long run, you know, all this conflict. And yeah, you're right, Christopher. We had the illusion of diplomacy, you know, never really truly had that. You know, we were fed to kind of the lie that things are safe, everything's great.

SPEAKER_06 31:36

The one who smelted delta, guys. You know, the one who smelled the delta, like it's the one who says that we don't have this, is the one that's actually doing it, you know.

SPEAKER_04 31:43

Yeah, well, it's funny because I just checked they're now saying that Iran is is I just checked like breaking news, like Iran saying that the uh that there's many infractions to this deal that are happening, and then of course, it's the day that the oil plunges, the Dow C is its best day in a year, right? But then that's a con job because then it's gonna all turn the other way, and it's actually gonna be worse, right? So it's like people are just trying to squeeze as much as they can in these markets that are in these positions, like you were just saying, Scott, like that are these old PDFs that just know how to just like it's sad because so many people get fooled by it still.

SPEAKER_06 32:26

I'm like, yeah, I do get the feeling there's some miracle invention coming. I don't know if you guys get this. I'm gonna put it out there for I think there's a miracle invention coming. I think I said it last week, too. It might be free energy. I mean, we've invented it, we just killed the inventors and put it on a shelf. Yeah, so I know it exists already, but I I just get the sense that there's gonna be some miracle invention that's gonna just basically re-level some of this, like almost faded. If it hadn't happened, this wouldn't have happened almost like a God thing. People say it came from God. Do you guys get any feeling like that?

SPEAKER_04 32:56

Yeah, I think I think it definitely because of Pluto even being in Aquarius with the big outer planets on alignment. It could be something like hydro water-based energy to fusion, of course, but like, yeah, something technological, energy energy-wise, also something that brings us all together in an easier way. The universe is really putting everything and it's put its bet and all of its chips on us as humanity coming together, believe it or not. That's the irony, ironic part. Is that planets are all fully the universe is fully bet on us coming together? That's what the astrology says. Like, it's put no no other bets anywhere else. That's the bet.

SPEAKER_06 33:37

Yeah, time and again. I've never had the planets in my lifetime destroy us, it's always been bring us together. It has those aspects do exist, they haven't been doing it, it's all been come together. Just like last year, we had like five planets at step one for like four months. Step one is self-love. Like, I've never seen we've never seen in astrology. We went back, we've never seen astrology plants are saying self-love, self-love, self-love for weeks and weeks and weeks. It's like it's it's almost dead obvious, you know.

SPEAKER_16 34:01

It's in it's I agree, I agree too with Leo, uh, with Leo with David that there definitely is something hydro, you know, using water. Um as of course, Tesla, you just you know, back in the day knew how to you know fuel cars off water, basically, you know, and I think that's coming. I think that we're noticing the greed with resource too. Um, and why is it always kind of the Republicans always obsessed with the oil? You know, there's that's the money-making thing and the market manipulation with the Republicans is the oil. So, but I think people are starting to speculate what's with this oil greed, and so and then think people are gonna want to demand other other resources to be used, um, which I think we'll save the future in that sense as well, you know. So why does Pepsi own all the water rates?

SPEAKER_06 34:39

Why does Pepsi own all the water rates in the world? You know, like that's odd. I mean, Pepsi owns a lot of the water rates, it's really funny. So they're up on the new energy and already well.

SPEAKER_04 34:46

There was actually an article this week about how water bottles are gonna go up in price, and people people are starting to hoard, ironically. So you're getting the same 2020 kind of uh it's really interesting to see peppers.

SPEAKER_06 35:00

But you know what? This kid that just invented this thing, this kid in this filter, like boom, we're gonna have a we're gonna have machines in our house. That's gonna be we're just you know pump dirty water in it, it's come out clean.

SPEAKER_04 35:08

Something I know, I don't want microplastics in my sperm, like fuck that yeah, like that's what she said, right on, bro.

SPEAKER_06 35:18

Next headline.

SPEAKER_04 35:19

Although that could be like I don't know, they've never been able to really think of birth control prevent, just might be microplastics, right? Microplastics might be it's like yay, well, if you if you get if you get it snipped down there, you're it's like prostate cancer is like almost a yes, really, yeah, dude.

SPEAKER_06 35:40

I didn't know that. That's crazy. Wow, yeah. Where's it can be?

SPEAKER_04 35:44

Cutting it off and then just having it just all stay in there forever is gonna that's interesting, that's true, right? Yeah, yeah, like a lot of the the data over the last 25-30 years of it. Yeah, it's like if you see here's someone with prostate cancer, it's like you snipped. Interesting. Usually, most of the time, people will be like, Yeah, I am like prostate is like, I don't want to live anymore. Well, they're not gonna even say I don't want to live anymore. But I was gonna say that it's like if you think about it, they try to say, Oh, the sperm just dies in there. It's like no, I think I'm a human design guy, right? So it's like you think of the sacral energy, right? Feminine or masculine, it's meant to regenerate, it's meant to get out, it's not supposed to die there, you know, to come out, it's not supposed to just stay in there forever.

SPEAKER_16 36:34

Yeah, yeah, well, it's also a disruption to that's a disruption to natural order, too, which of course that creates a lot of resistance energetically, and that's gonna just sit right there, right? And so, um, I yeah, I agree. And we have a time frame. I said, What's up so bad about letting come out again? If you don't do anything with it, then it's just gonna come out in a wet dream somehow. So it finds its way to purge it out, and so I mean, there's other ways to be making sure you're not reproducing than just snipping it.

SPEAKER_04 36:59

I wouldn't just like you snip a male dog, it becomes a little beta dog. It doesn't, you know, it doesn't start lifting its leg and peeing, like you know, it it really just becomes like a little beta dog.

SPEAKER_08 37:10

This is all I'm serious.

SPEAKER_04 37:13

So you think with humans it's gonna change? Like it's not gonna, it's gonna be the same thing.

SPEAKER_06 37:19

It's it's the Roman Catholic Church, actually. That's why we're getting vasectomies because we're we felt sinned to have you know sex without you know procreating, and so basically, you want to be able to not procreate, you know, but and you want to be free of it, and you're afraid of having more kids, and that's what it comes down to. We're this fear of having more kids or whatever.

SPEAKER_16 37:34

Some families had huge kids, lots of kids, and some families didn't, you know, like it just kind of came down to I think the spiritual plan, honestly, not necessarily, just too much altering with the body, you know, removing the tonsils, removing like you know, I'm saying it's just too much altering of such, you know. I always feel like the tonsils was like your built-in vaccination system, and I have allergies, but I understand that when I get the allergies of the mucus, it's because I'm fighting some shit in the air, you know, and so but why are we pulling that out at a young age? It's because they're getting sick over that. So, I mean, I I don't know. I I feel like we've removed things for no reason in the body. I feel like we're just cutting sources off of life, like we were talking about before. And I think that, like you said, uh David, that builds up a lot of resistance energy. Um, and that can manifest in so many different other physical complications, you know, and so um well and especially I think you know, men's health is gonna be the big thing about Aries, right?

SPEAKER_04 38:23

We're switching into such an interesting time where we've been in all this earth and water, which is feminine, and it's been great for the divine feminine to get its place over the last 20 years, yeah. But now it's going to the masculine, so it's interesting, you know, men's health, like paying attention to these things, like like a lot of men are not really being men anymore, like they know they're forgetting about it, and and then I think we're losing, like, I think the core of a man is honor. I think that's where we're losing honor. Men are just kind of like out, like it's kind of sad when I go on Instagram. Now all I see is just like these men, I don't even want to call them men, but they're they're fellow men, so I'll call them men. But they're just they're just they're just chasing whatever somebody else is doing, they're doing things without honor, they're looking for the quick, fast hit of something, and you know, it's like I won't be surprised if like there's some Instagrammer that'll say cut your nose hair all off, right? Like, you need to do that next, and that'll be the cool new thing, and then get rid of that.

SPEAKER_09 39:26

It's like what like that's the filtration system itself.

SPEAKER_06 39:30

It's not honor, it's erections. We've lost directions. That's a problem. And for some why have we, by the way? I mean, why have we lost erections? I mean, the whole the erection fields everywhere everywhere that was not normal.

SPEAKER_04 39:42

What's that? That was not normal. There was 80-year-olds making babies all the time in the old days.

SPEAKER_06 39:46

I know that's what I'm saying. Why can men not you know keep it up? And why are women not being able to carry children at birth? It's not, it's something new. That's something you need to look at.

SPEAKER_16 39:55

Well, I'll again it's it's to me that's the whole psy-up of here. We're supposed to be confused and not know where we're truly at. Let's look at even the the rise of feminism, right? These tough and strong women, it's so out of balance with the divine feminine, divine masculine. I feel like our species trying to evolve and to understand that we both have the balance of divine feminine and divine masculine within us and how we fit in with that. So there's been a huge disruption, I would say, with our I feel like there's been a huge narrative in Sci-Ops to make us all confused about who we are, what we are, and focusing on things that are not so important about who we are versus understanding, like embracing what we are and how to how to really evolve with that. So I just see that with this confusion with gender and all this stuff, and now gay people and trans people are the reasons. But it's just we've all been imbalanced with all these infiltrated ideas that I think throw us in confusion. I agree, right? Because the whole first man's gonna be a certain way, a female's gonna be a certain way, then people resist that, then they go the other direction. So it's all these extremes that I feel like we've been placed upon our consciousness in culture, which I feel is is controlled and planned. And so it the more they keep us confused of who we are, the more they succeed in being in control, right? And controlling our mind.

SPEAKER_04 41:01

Yeah, it's human traits that we all have, and some categorize more into a feminine or more into a masculine, but they're we're all human, and they're all human traits, and some of us have more that would maybe go towards there. Is no, they're all just human traits, we're all humans, so it's like the the idea that this is the only traits that you're allowed to have, and these are the only traits you're allowed to have, is really that creates excuses because then people are going to resist and want to go the other end of the spectrum, right?

SPEAKER_16 41:30

And be, you know, if they're gay, well, I have to like be feminine now in order so I can be defined as something instead of just being a gay guy who's masculine.

SPEAKER_06 41:37

You know, the feminist movement old 70s to get girls to get to women to go be able to work go in the workplace happened right when the gold standard was taken away. So the gold standard is taken away. Suddenly, now you don't have a stable coin, right? And because you have a stable coin, now you're shrinking the economy, it takes two salaries to run the household. To some degree, it's suspicious that there's a big push for women to get in the workplace right when men are losing their salary.

SPEAKER_04 41:59

That is that a coincidence, no, that's well, it was for taxes, too, right? To get marriage is by the state, right? By their government, it's not by religion. It's true, it's for taxes, and they made it to where it was like, Oh, this is great. But I was gonna say that when it came to this identity issue, like if you go to old tribes, like one of my favorite astrologers, he's an African shaman from South Africa, white guy who went and trained, and he's amazing. Rod Suskin is his name. I've interviewed him, he's he's on my channel, but he has his own channel, he's great. But he he says it best, like you know, in these African tribes, the ones that don't talk to outside world that we have TV that he's lived in, like you know, like if you are somebody like it doesn't matter if you're a man or woman, it's just like okay, the person who we would think is maybe got some sort of like you know, physical ailment, like you know, they're I don't know what uh I'm not gonna say the R word right now, but like you know, that we think they're that well, they put a broom in them and then they have them broom the the the the dirt around, like the way that the African like natural humans work is okay. If the woman is really good at hunting, then she hunts. Yeah, they don't care. Yeah, it doesn't matter as best for what it well, okay. You're that dude can climb trees and get all the fruits. Okay, great, go for it. That woman is better at at nursing all the babies because that's what's crazy, too, is women like in tribes, like the elderly women who are past menopause somehow develop milk again to do the babies that are around, and so the mothers can go out and do other things. I'm not even kidding. No, it's true. So the way we live in this kind of bubblest, like you have to be this way is so actually the opposite of what we really are.

SPEAKER_16 43:51

But that's to me. I blame American culture. I blame I blame American culture for that because American culture has been on the extremes. This is what a female looks like, this is what youth. Looks like this is what toughness looks like. And so I really feel like right now what you what our our consciousness does is resisting that. And it's gone to the other extreme. And I feel like we're gonna find the balance of that. You know, because we're like the only culture really, the American culture has infiltrated this kind of extremes when it comes to like but in you know in the Arab countries, they can't women can't be where you know be seen their face.

SPEAKER_06 44:21

I mean, I think every countries gone a little bizarre with every every culture has gone bizarre somehow, somehow, or by or binding their feet in China, like, come on, you may your feet be religion, yeah. But that's very religion created religion.

SPEAKER_16 44:34

So religion created stuff in those Middle Eastern cartridges, just like there's Christianity and Catholicism, Christianism created the whole you know, imbalance with you know male-female relationships, religion created that disease. That's not that's not natural to us.

SPEAKER_06 44:46

They say in Atlantis it was women that looked down at men that women ran the whole damn thing, and that they thought men were just good for sex and moving big objects. But I'm like, let's go back there, let's go back there. I'd love I'll take it, you know. But apparently, but apparently women were arrogant. So the irony is if that's true, if we find out that in fact this is full circle that women were arrogant and then men became arrogant, and then you know, whatever, maybe now both will not, you know. Swing the pencil. Women frankly have a power that men don't have, women can create. I mean, that's they're they are biologically better, they can procreate, they don't need us technically to go on, especially with modern technology and freezers, you know.

SPEAKER_16 45:18

So yeah, next next next topic is speaking of uh male-female, ex exiled crown prince calls for Iran's armed forces to overthrow the Iranian regime. Reza Palavi, the exile exiled son of I Iran's uh last Shah and a prominent opposition figure, issued a direct appeal to Iran's armed forces, military commanders, and police, urging them to defect and abandon the Islamic Republic. What do you guys think about that?

SPEAKER_04 45:44

It's hard to get rid of martyrdom because you have to remember, especially in that version of it's not Arabs, they're Persians, and they are Shia, right? And they are much more about the connection to the bloodline of Muhammad, whereas Shiite is much more like, nah, we don't need to have anybody that's like kind of like a pope, right? So you have to look at Iran as like the Catholic Church, right? It's like the people there look at whoever's the Ayatollah as the supreme leader of deep connections with blood to Muhammad, yeah. They and then the martyrdom, like I will die for Allah, right? Like, so yeah, that that's the problem is that you it always comes back to the religion, yeah. That's right, yeah. I mean, in America, I want to laugh because you know, you you think of the American, like pro-America person, and they're so against all these things. But if you look at the founding fathers, they wore wigs and tight pants.

SPEAKER_05 46:48

That's true. Thank you.

SPEAKER_04 46:49

Yeah, and I just find it hilarious because it's like, yeah, they praise that, but then it's kind of like have they ever asked that deeper question? Like they were all Masons, right? Not all of them, but like the ones that matter predominantly, yeah. Predominantly the ones that we hear the names of were Masons, all the other names on the decoration of independence. You don't know who they are, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 47:10

Exactly. Those are the secret schools, though. I mean, then the Masons were not what they are today, or allegedly are today. I feel like they were they were the secret sciences that were go back to Atlantis that lived in the veins of the Masons, the you know, stonecutters through Egypt. Um, these had all the secrets to metaphysics, really. They had held the secrets of metaphysics for a long time. Um, and then I think that I it really I don't know when it happened, but it seems like somewhere between Lincoln and FDR, you know, because somewhere between Lincoln and FDR, things got shifty, man, and and we lost started losing control of those things. It was actually Rockefeller, I think, that came out. So once Rockefeller was on the scene, this thing started to get uh you know corrupted, these these societies, and then we started looking at these societies at the bad part, but they weren't in the beginning, they were the ones holding the truth.

SPEAKER_04 47:49

I think that kind of evolution, though, like in technology and stuff, it just it society shifts when we shift dramatically into the future more, and then we all have to kind of like assess we go too far, and then we kind of assess and come back.

SPEAKER_06 48:03

Yeah, Democrats are slave owners.

SPEAKER_04 48:05

Oh, yeah, and yeah, they're very yeah, southern Democrats, yeah, and and they actually did it for for Christ, it was all Christ-based. So most people forget about that. But like General E. Lee in his diaries was like, Hey, I'm I'm doing this and I'm gonna join the South because the slaves are better off as slaves, you know, and because we give them a better life as good Christian men, like no, some of you it's like a lot of those, even the Muslims will like suicide bomb in the name of Allah.

SPEAKER_16 48:35

I mean, they're always using some sort of you know religious excuse to as a to perpetuate these these things. And I think that this is something I think we're collectively starting to recognize um and break out of, you know. Um, but then next we have Congressman Tim Burcher makes bold claims about extraterrestrial life. Yes, says a high-ranking official of the U.S. government told him extraterrestrial beings have visited uh earth traveling and uh otherworldly craft, and these beings have made direct contact with humans. I mean, duh, you know, this has been going on for a while. I mean, they they didn't they have some sort of a a um system to where they could identify foreign objects back in like you know 2012, you know, to um to defend against you know extraterrestrial craft or life force UFOs, whatever. They had a they had a program for that to identify this, you know. Um they have videos stating this. So we've been on the lookout for quite some time. So um I think that they're it's interesting how they're starting to like push this in our faces a little bit more um as a deterrent, I feel like, as well. But I also feel like in the future they're somehow gonna blame the extraterrestrial life force for a lot of what the humans have been doing. I feel like there's gonna be a flip, a put a blame there to worry about, not so much you know, us. I feel like I think it's Dr.

SPEAKER_06 49:44

Stephen Greer says uh he felt his stuff. He like we had reverse engineered the UFO like in 1960. It's been it's we've been flying that thing for early 1900s. Yeah, no, I mean in 1960, like the first time down. Yeah, we were already flying. Apparently, we have a secret space program. Apparently, what was it? We should get what's his face on. What's his face? Uh we'll have to get um who did that series uh on the secret space program. It was uh you know what I'm talking about, David? No, um it was uh blonde guy, Lighty, his own him and this one guy in a small room, like in a stark room, and on Gaia TV we talk about the secret space program. We'll get out of the commercial. Oh, uh history channel? No, no, no. It was on Gaia.

SPEAKER_04 50:24

We'll figure it out. Oh Gaia. Yeah, you know, I'm best friends with Jimmy Church who's taken over now, but it was um uh uh how did I forget his name?

SPEAKER_06 50:35

I'm forgetting names too lately.

SPEAKER_16 50:36

Uh by the way, the program I was talking about was the advanced aerospace threat identification program, where they were actually able to, they were you know being aware of these UFOs coming to our space. So they had a program back in 2017, you know, they were chasing this and measuring this. So and again, we were we were all two hats wearing conspiracy theorists. So I can't.

SPEAKER_06 50:59

When the aliens come, they're gonna say one thing. We've been working with your government forever.

SPEAKER_16 51:02

David Wilcox, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. David Wilcox, I'm gonna put it in the chat.

SPEAKER_06 51:05

David Wilcox, thank you. There's your free plug, David. There it is. Yeah, I mean, yeah. Well, I think we're gonna take a break. We'll be right back after this, folks.

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SPEAKER_06 52:19

That was lovely. Yeah. This week. We have a topic.

SPEAKER_09 52:31

We do have a topic.

SPEAKER_04 52:32

I mean, I I think we were still talking about the alien. Oh, we want to pick up with that, yeah. We can I I think it was interesting because it it was broken by a live interview on TMZ. That's a first, okay. Right? So, like, and by the way, who's in the Epstein files, right? Who is? Yeah, whatever his name, uh uh, that's on TMZ, the owner of it. Oh, really? That guy, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You would use him to get things out. Got you. Oh, really? Yeah, interesting. I don't know why I can't remember a person's name today, but it is. Oh yeah, Harvey Levin. Yeah, Harvey Levin. Anyway, but it but Tim Burchett said it because Matt Gates came out and said it last week. And I've actually met Matt Gates in person. Yeah, I trust him a lot. I do too. And I I gotta say that, like, this is what he also said, uh, Tim on the show that they went to a base with Paulina Luna with Matt Gates and him. They weren't allowed to go see things, and then Matt called Trump and got the right things, and then they went in and they saw things. Then there was like a private con congressional hearing where one of these alien like style entities came and taunted people in Congress. So I you know, it's getting like it's getting so close to that. Then if you think about the war stuff, the meteors, the weird technology stuff, the orbs that are showing up everywhere right now. This this thing is about pop, whether it's Project Bluebeam or not, that's gonna be, I think, where we have to discern. Like, is this is this trying to? I feel like if it we're gonna know because it's gonna try and serve some agenda for religions, like you know, like see it, and everybody's gonna claim that no, that's Muhammad, no, that's Jesus, no, that's you know the Elohim, right? And that's where everybody's getting all giddy in the religious communities about it, right?

SPEAKER_16 54:34

Well, I think too, that means this is the reason why I think they're releasing a lot of this stuff is because we're actually close to contact. That's what I believe. So they have to prepare somehow, because I do believe probably within might be th before you know 2030, there'll be some direct contact and communication with extraterrestrials. And so they're gonna have to you know somehow prepare for us because then we're gonna say, Why didn't you tell us about us? And we'll blame our government. So I think that's what it's evidence of for me is that it's direct contact is right around the corner, actually.

SPEAKER_06 55:01

I think the big secret is hybridization. We've been hybriding, we've been making humans. So the reason why we can do clones of Hillary Clinton is because the alien technology allowed us to do it. Um, they were the ones that had messed with the DNA the whole time. So I think what we're gonna find out is that a lot of people walking among us right now are actually hybrids, and that's why they're so weird. There's a lot of weird people out there, and those like that must be a hybrid.

SPEAKER_04 55:20

Well, I mean, it's true. I you were honest at 29 Taurus hits the seven sisters into zero Gemini. That's what they said, and so that's the if you've read any of the Palladian channelings or like Bringers of the Dawn, which is probably the Bible of Palladian channelings, it's all about our DNA and the activation of our DNA. And if you really think about it, like the spiritual version, not the crazy chop shop version that they're playing with of doing hybrid stuff in the physical form, is activating our our 12-strand DNA to reawaken to who we actually are as the the species of like true light beings that we are, and I think that that's where they're manipulating and trying to cut off us from the great awakening that like and the activation of our DNA, right? Like they're messing with the DNA and are hybriding in order to stop ascension, right? Stop the populace from actually waking up. And this is what the Palladians warned about. And she wrote that book and channeled that thing at the end of the 80s into the beginning of the 90s, and she's been dead on, and she was actually she's she's still she's an astrologer.

SPEAKER_06 56:29

That's why I've been suspect, Bashar. It's like, okay, so Bashar, okay, so this is a gray alien from the future that is you. This is where we ended up, and now you're back on our planet stealing our DNA because you can't reproduce anymore. Like, what the fuck? You know, I mean, like, there's something weird about that, you know. And if we did it, they succeeded, apparently. I mean, if that's the case, Bashar is the feat there's a gray alien in the future that lost the ability to procreate, then it happened, David. We actually cut off the the ability to to create. We cut off those comments chromosomes. It happened.

SPEAKER_04 56:55

And maybe he's the hybrid with like a frog, you know, like I think Alex Jones, Alex Jones is the one who broke it a decade ago, right? About the alien human hybrid, right? That that was actually the beginning of the programs, which that's the whole idea of Jurassic Park, right? Like using the dog, the the the frog DNA to to kind of cross that barrier with the mosquito DNA. And I think that's where they're they've tinkered around with so I think that's the kind of like stuff Tim says would keep you up for the you would you wouldn't sleep if you knew what was really going on with the alien stuff. Yeah, I think it's more of just like this horrible chop chop of just weird situations going on, and that they're playing and they're trying to understand things, and there's maybe ancient things that was left here. And I think that the aliens that are the good aliens, the high dimensional beings, they they they'll contact you directly. Yeah, you don't need to go to the government, put it on a website to be like, oh okay, here's the aliens.

SPEAKER_16 57:55

No, but they will, and I also have I've come to realization too when people think they've seen ghosts. I've actually come to terms there's interventional beings that do spy on on our species, too. Oh, yeah. Um, it's not a ghost, not a demon is actually interdimensional being that's spying and and learning. And I think there's also we're teaching a lot of extraterrestrials too. Um, I I always believe that every experience we've had in previous incarnations, all that data is stored in our DNA, and that we could evoke a lot of those past experiences or past talents from our past incarnations and breed it into the present. And I think that fascinates a lot of uh those extraterrestrials uh of the human species, and so some want that, some want to learn from it, some want to help it. So, yeah, there are different variables of those extraterrestrial connections. Um, but you're right, they will come to you directly for sure. That you'll definitely you have to be an open channel, of course, but they will come to you directly, not like, yeah, you're right, not some website, not at some government you know, exposure, you know. Well, they're gonna land with COVID.

SPEAKER_06 58:48

I know they'll land, they'll land. I feel they're gonna land, like they'll be like, we'll have that in this iPhone. Yeah, it sounds good. And actually, I think sometimes astrology, I think astrology's gonna be out of crutches, like out of the the bay doors, just like seriously covered to get your human for coming to get your a bed. Golly, you know, that'll be that moment for every American every year.

SPEAKER_02 59:11

I was traveling through the multiverse, and I just you know, I needed one of those AA med right now. I was drunk, drunk saucering.

SPEAKER_13 59:19

That's high tech.

SPEAKER_04 59:20

That's high tech. Well, I but the other part that he brings up a lot, Tim, is is is about that there's so many underwater, right? Like oh, and underground these ships doing over 200 miles an hour underwater, right? And they're huge. And we there's no technology, it's none of our governments, right? So that that to me, if you just look at the bottom of the Mariana Trench, the newest pictures, yeah. I'm like, that looks alien, right? Like everything underneath there looks alien. So to and the idea of what looks alien is actually coming from ocean stuff. So if you think when they injected that into our consciousness through movies, they actually just took a script out of like the ocean, and then actually James Cameron, you know, The Abyss, which is done in '88, is probably the best version of actually what it's really like and the way that they are there to help us. And then that they look at Earth going, What are you guys doing? Right, like when he gets taken down there and he survives, and those clips that he shows him about that, and then they bring him back up. It's pretty normal. That movie actually thinks more of the good side of what would it really look like if it was real, than this kind of like you know, more alien or independence day kind of look.

SPEAKER_16 1:00:32

But yeah, I always go back to Egypt. I always I always go back to Egypt. I'm always like that. I feel like they at that time had connection to extraterrestrials, especially like art, always had some sort of thing in the sky, you know what I'm saying? And so I believe they were able to all use alien connections to alter the laws of physics to build what they need to build, you know, into astral projection, all that great stuff. So, yeah, I think we need to look at their we do have friends and we do have enemies too when it comes to extraterrestrials. And I think some of our governmental politicians are working with the enemies, you know, that one that want to harvest the energy harvest, as we see.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:05

She says that the plane say that most of the bar bad ones are either trapped under our earth underground because they couldn't get off the planet on the great flood, or they're not around right now. Like the good guys, apparently, the good guys are kind of got earth settled, and the tension is that the ones that are underground want to go home and we won't let them. We've got them trapped there. That's uh I understand to be the tension right now. So that could be really in Alaska. I mean, or the South the South Hole is the door to it, yeah.

SPEAKER_16 1:01:31

So that could be maybe what the whole analogy about demons in hell could like really be kind of stemming from, actually, is those being that's a very good point.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:38

That's a very good point, actually. The idea of hell might just be dealing with them down underground. There's definitely huge unrobate stuff going on, and our government has tons of tunnels and stuff underground. I mean, that's one thing the new government needs to think about. You know, when the new government is elected, can't you? By the way, is like, hey, what's going on in the ground, guys?

SPEAKER_04 1:01:54

And yeah, that's the whole thing with the Iran War, right? That everything's underground, or in Israel, right? The tunnels that were you that were built during the whole entire holy wars by both sides, whether it was you know the Muslims or it was during the the Christians. That's where it's like to think that America doesn't have that when we have like NORAD, for example, and Colorado built into the mountainside that goes down. We're not even to know, but it's like a hundred levels at least, right? We're doing things underground. I mean, even like in LA, they have all the underground things for the celebrities with their Starbucks and stuff that people have worked at, and that's like where the yeah, oh, it's dude, it's it's true, too.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:35

Yeah, like yeah, I mean, apparently you can take a train from like LA to like you know Denver in 15 minutes or something and speed paint, you know, allegedly this conspiracy that there's you know bullet trains to go underground with you know uh US workers, US state workers and stuff being trained.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:49

Or the white all of DC, because I went on the tour. I had an NSA agent who was like a fan of mine and went on a tour. Dude, I was underground on the train that got built during the Civil War that Lincoln took to get to the Capitol, right? And all of it's underground. So, like the president never just you don't ever see the president drive up to the Capitol building. They go underground, and I've been under there. It's crazy.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:15

That makes sense.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:16

Yeah, it's awesome. So that's for all the senators, that's for all the congressmen. They don't go up the front steps unless the cameras are there, right? Interesting, the press, but the press goes down underneath there, too. You might not recognize it, but they're they're underground whenever you see them, and so the whole entire city's underground, right? Like people, there is something to say about that. Plus, the whole reptilian thing comes from the Middle East, that's what the Palladians always say, where Iran is, and so that you know, I'm not trying to say that if you're from there or something that you're reptilian, but it's kind of interesting too in the matrix animatrix movie that goes to the backstory of it all. That's where the AI robots kind of were made, and this is where all the data centers are, and that's what that's what's being threatened this week, too, right? Was that Iran is saying they're gonna take out OpenAI's big data center, this data center, that was open AI is a data center in Iran?

SPEAKER_06 1:04:06

No, yeah. What what for?

SPEAKER_04 1:04:09

Why who who do you think's coming up with all the money?

SPEAKER_06 1:04:12

What? Oh see, that's that's sus, man. What do you mean they all are they all are sus? That's just like having a why do we have a why do we have a uh Wuhan lab for viruses in China? What the fuck, man?

SPEAKER_04 1:04:24

I mean, what do you mean all of all of the big data centers now are funded from them or we do stuff that is funded? But that's everybody's involved in that. That but that's and now we're bombing them. I mean, it's like well, no, no, now Iran is that Iran's been smart, Iran's been targeting actual stuff that is gonna affect the West, right? Right, they're they're not so. If you're afraid of them like throwing some nuclear bomb at us, that's not their plot. Their plot right they they had they had game planned war war game this for decades, right? When we would attack, and they have mastered it, right? Like they've cut off the oil supply, they've cut off energy, they've cut off look at all the look at all our bases got hit, right? And it's like they act like we were the ones winning the war when actually we're the ones losing. We have an F-16 that just got shot down by a rocket launcher that's done on a shoulder.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:25

Yeah, I'm not surprised. The technologies here. I mean, we're getting good at that stuff. Um it's a it's interesting. I just it doesn't y'all, it's just not what it seems. I think we have to all keep an open eye. I mean, I think we have to keep an open eye, not open AI. You know, it's like we have to keep our eyes open and take a look at things because um they're not what they seem. Nothing is what this seems. That's one thing I know. Of course not. I don't know what it is, but I know it's not what we're being told. I know it's not what we're being told. So yeah. All right, so I guess we're talking about politics now.

SPEAKER_16 1:05:52

I mean it's pushing past politics is actually the title, so it's just interesting. We're leading from that. But I think that you know, pushing past politics is is more so. I I hear a lot of people saying now, like, don't turn on the news. I used to say that five, six years ago. There's a you know, cover thing. And some of you may not be able to handle the news. A lot of us need to be tuned into what's going on with our politics to understand where we're going and how to like really shift things. So but pushing past us, I think that we have to understand how we fit in as a community when it comes to what's going on and where we can find a ways to make a difference in our communities based on what's going on in our political space. Some of you might be called to lead, some of you might be called to teach, some of you might be called to like help out certain communities that you feel like need some assistance. This is how we push past the politics and put it into more of a productive nature. Um, and so again, it's not that we're just consuming the politics, but we have to understand that what's more important politics and morality and humanity. And the two should be integrated. A lot of times we always are told don't talk about politics or religion with people because those are the two things that separate us. Why? Those should be the two things that unite us. And so I think that we push past of how it's been designed and how we've been due to this space and start reforming and reshaping the idea of politics, and that should be integrated with humanity and connecting people, then we can start doing our due diligence as far as how we could participate in humanity to make things shift and change. And I don't think people realize the little the things they can do in their positions that can actually affect a whole community of people, and that spreads like wildfire and then it creates a domino effect. So we need to be informed, but you know, that's how I think we push past it.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:19

I think every selfie cam should become a cam that watches them. Why don't we just turn around and make our own news network and just watch them? Everyone capture everything you see on your webcam, on your phone, and stream it live right now, and let's fucking catch them doing shit, you know, because we've got them surrounded much more cameras than they have us, you know, at the end of the day. You just flip that selfie right around, you know, and tell me it's the other way direction. I that's where I think it is. I feel intuitively there comes this moment, and I don't know how what causes it, but American people wake up and suddenly go, why don't you explain again? Like this at this point, we've been just like, oh we just always have said, Yes, we'll just we'll buy the bullshit, you'll tell us. But I think there comes a point when Americans, at least Americans, I can't speak for other countries, we're just like, wait a second, we've seen this in a movie. You know, a lot of the plots are been told in the movies too. It's like we never put that together either. It's like, dude, we've been it's the same damn plot. It's a dumb ending. You know, we know all this, we've memorized it. There comes a point where we say, We're gonna watch you now. We're gonna ask you questions.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:11

Well, that's that's what James O'Keefe does, right? And he's been doing for like six James O'Keefe. It's you know, he had projects. Perhaps to him, by the way. Yeah, perhaps to him. Yeah, you know, I went, I went and saw him out in 2022 in at the my in Miami during the whole COVID thing because he was exposing all the politicians, whether left or right, with hidden cameras, and he gets girls to go on dates or men to go on dates with so and he and he exposes and he's so upset right now because he just caught all the fraud in California, right? That all the homeless are paying people to do the voter rolls, right? Like, and nobody's there's no arrests, there's nothing happening, and he's got it all on tape, and he's now he's like so pissed because he's like, whether it's the left or right, he exposed what's going on right now with Pam Bonnie. He's the one who exposed Pam Bonnie and got her talking about the Epstein files at lunch, yeah, right? Like, okay, and nobody does anything about it. So I think that that Scott's right. The only way to push past this is you have to be informed, and we all have to do something, and new leaders have to come about. But the other part, too, is like there's stuff that people don't even remember about our constitution. Like, if we get enough states, and that means if we rally in your own state to get the governor and get all of this, yeah, the local you know, senators and so forth to declare uh you know a state convention, we could change amendments. We the people can take over everything and go over the all three branches of government. Yes, and we've now taken that. That's what I think the future is. It's like there's gonna be a moment where we all have to go to our local state governments and we all say you are going to the convention. Yeah, and this is the demand, these are and I hate to say it demands, but as people, with this is our country, it's for the people, by the people. That's that's gonna be the power that is the fastest, most fit quickest way because the game's rigged. Yeah, and the only way to get the rigging to change is you know, a different way.

SPEAKER_16 1:10:15

We need more James O'Keeffe's, is what we're saying. You know what I'm saying? So many people are focused on selfish things to do with our world, and I want to be famous, and I want to be on a TV show and all that bullshit. And we need more people at James O'Keefe that start trends like that that actually create shifts and changes, right? And hold people accountable, expose certain things, bring truth to people. And so, yeah, like Chris was saying, we should all be capturing everything and posting it and posting it, posting it, posting it, and being informing with the intention of informing each other what's going on because there's so a lot of times I hear the news like, oh, there's all this disaster in Australia. I call my friends in Australia, like, that's not happening, you know, that's not going on here. And so we got to keep each other informed so we're not being misled by certain ways, too.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:52

We we trust, but we verify always. Because we can tell you right now, there's already a plan from the Rockefellers for when we do have the Constitutional Convention for what they want to have changed in it. So they they they follow these things ahead of time and play and they have this playbook for any direction. So even when we go down the right path, we have to make sure that we're all legit, verify everything every time, everywhere. Doesn't matter what you can't really trust anymore. You have to verify.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:15

That was what the civil war they tried that to do state convention, they tried to do that in the south, right? That that was the idea of the beginning of the secession. Ah, okay, that the South was gonna get enough states to come together to to do that, but yet they didn't. It started in South Carolina. Yeah, ironically, though, it was Lincoln who said, I will make an amendment, and he went and got Congress to agree that we will say if your state had slaves up until 1861, when I take office, that it could stay a slave state forever, and they all denied it just because they didn't like Lincoln. So that war was a pointless thing. I think we gotta watch out for ego as it's people being like, hey, actually, there's a way for us to move forward here, but what you want to prove something else? Like it's not about actually helping out or changing things, it's more about you want to show off and be the star, right? Like how you just said, Scott, oh, everybody wants to be this the next influencer, and that's what's sad, Gen Z, right? Their number one job, it's like 91 all are I want to be an influencer.

SPEAKER_06 1:12:21

I know. Well, influence your own zone first, you know. It's not it's not easy, I'll tell you.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:26

Well, it's not easy, and it takes it's it's a never-ending journey. And you gotta make content every day. It's not uh it's tiring. It's tiring.

SPEAKER_06 1:12:35

And speaking of hybrids, Lincoln, Lincoln's kind of weird. I've never seen a man like that since. Have you? He might have been a hybrid himself. He was a weird energy, but he was an Aquarius, right? Age of Aquarius thinking and very point. Lincoln. Lincoln. Well, he was I'm saying he might have been a hybrid. I mean, he's a weird guy. Like we haven't put out a guy like that since. I've never seen a guy like that since.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:58

What's that? No, but I mean he he he he did he did do martial law, right? He was brilliant. He he he he did create the greenbacks paper money and take out loans and started this whole horrible money trail to get the war funded. So it it's like there's there's good and bad with them, right? It's like, and at the end of the day, they killed him right after the end of the war in his second term, and it's because he chose a Democrat to try and bring the country together on the second term. He lived, of course, and everybody else died. And he the people that were supposed to kill the new vice president just happened to get too drunk. Right. I don't know if you know that, but that's actually the story. And then a Democrat took power who was Republican for the first year, and then the next that's why the whole South and having the whole Southern, you know, hospitality of letting them have their guns and not getting back at any of it was because they killed Lincoln, and that's they put a Democrat in to be with him. So we have to be careful about this future of it. Like sometimes it might look like you said, Chris, like the what the Rockefellers, whoever these families are, whatever these forces are, or where all the money is, they've got these kind of things planned. Like, oh, that looks like a great thing. We're bringing the two people together.

SPEAKER_16 1:14:18

That's the thing. That's the thing. When you have all the money, all you want now is control. So you don't really care about the money, it's like control shaping reality because you play God, and so you want to shape reality. And so it's like the two main companies own all the radio and TV stations, so they get to control and dictate what's being expressed. And I think this pony show left and right is part of the manipulation, too, right? And so, but that's why now it's more important that we understand what true spirituality is, and we don't fall into the the traps of the spiritual bypassing. So, tomorrow on my live show, I'm talking about spiritual bypassing exposed. Okay, and so uh we're gonna put up the the banner for that. Um, there you go. So, tomorrow at uh 6 p.m. Pacific time, 9 p.m. Eastern time, um, also doing live one-on-one readings as well as I always do every Thursday, but getting to the depths of are you following the preview to spiritual bypassing? What is it, how to avoid it, and what true spirituality and progression really means tomorrow. And I'm live every Thursday too at 6 p.m. Pacific time, 9 p.m. Eastern time. Check me out. Come join us.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:15

I like the drama mask all cracked in the background, right?

SPEAKER_06 1:15:20

I'm not taking this trauma anymore yet. I think we're time. I mean now we're gonna transition to our time. Yeah, I was trying to try to segue. So, you know, uh, you know, guys, you've heard all these examples. Uh, don't just put up at a shift show, lead out loud. That's it, we're done. Yeah, we do this with music and over time. We'll catch this for the after show.

SPEAKER_16 1:15:40

There we go. Okay. After show. My verbal writing was like, I don't know if I want to be in a room with them.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:49

With who? Uh with Lincoln.

SPEAKER_17 1:15:52

No, he's talking about me and weird, and that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:56

He was a little weird. I'm just saying that, yeah, it would have been weird. He he he taught himself a law. He was originally brilliant and just by himself. Yeah. And Mary was a trip.

SPEAKER_06 1:16:10

He didn't even like his wife. No, he didn't. He was probably gay. He was.

SPEAKER_07 1:16:16

I can verify that.

SPEAKER_17 1:20:14

Hey, what's up? I'm Leo King, celebrity astrologer David Palmer. And you might be asking yourself, what is a celebrity astrologer? Am I an astrologer, and do I do astrology just for celebrities? You know, being a celebrity astrologer is about embodying a lot. Not only being an astrologer and of course doing readings for celebrities, but it's about connecting the astrologer aspect to the media, to the world. You know, embodying the model part of myself or the TV personality that I've been in my life to connect to this 21st century and to connect to this new world with social media and with television.

SPEAKER_15 1:20:50

And Hollywood is tapping into the spirit world through PsychX. Celebrities want to find their power of self. Untold with Maria Menunos, tonight at Awny.

SPEAKER_17 1:21:01

Especially, astrologers have been around for thousands of years on royal courts. They've been doing it for kings and queens. I mean, bringing the astrologer back into society. It's almost like being an astrologer has been axed out and we've been kind of put into our own little weird world. And I think that it's very important to utilize, you know, all the aspects of connecting to what we think of celebrity and pop culture and bringing these ancient science practices and all this wisdom to the mainstream world. And that's why, you know, building a studio like this here at the Leo King Studios and High Vibe Studios has been part of it to be able to create my own networks, to create my own content. And a tourist is gonna have their worth and be a little bougie like you, and it will work out. You can't go with a cheap person or somebody who doesn't know their worth. Guys who don't have self-worth is your biggest turnoff.

SPEAKER_12 1:21:51

That is! If you're not a competent man, get to step it. I can't do it!

SPEAKER_04 1:21:56

I can't do and then as time went by, I went on another big reality show called ABC True Beauty, and I went on and I said, you know what, I'm gonna tell the world I'm an astrologer. It's time. It's time to really own this. Because you have to remember being an astrologer is a little scary. You have uh religious people who think you're the devil, and then you have the scientific community who think you're schizophrenic. So there's this element of dealing with this aloneness in many ways, of like having to have the courage to follow what a lot of people think is a belief, kind of like religion, which it's not. Astrology is a bridge between the spiritual and the science energy and bringing them together.

SPEAKER_14 1:22:38

And celebrity astrologer David Palmer, who is also known as Leo King. I like that, Leo King. So, David, welcome to the show. Hey, thanks for having me on. Uh that was an amazing reading that you gave, man. What what what information does someone learn uh from a reading?

SPEAKER_17 1:22:58

What I'm trying to show people is that it's all divine. There's divine timing in life, there's divine synchronicities, and I help people see that when they were born so they can align and understand their life better.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:08

And it's good for helping people with knowing how to go down the right roads and not the wrong roads in life because we have that choice.

SPEAKER_11 1:23:17

Celebrity astrologer David Palmer, also known as the Leo King, is back with us. So his astrology guide is a hot seller right now on Amazon. We talked earlier about um the modern approach to the age-old practice of astrology. So now let's look into the future. So, David, what does the future hold for us? You said in our last segment, this week's gonna be a big one.

SPEAKER_18 1:23:40

This week's huge.

SPEAKER_17 1:23:41

We got a Mercury retrograde coming in Pisces, which makes things really confusing. At the same time, the planet Uranus is gonna come into Taurus, like it did in 1934, which was like the rise of Hitler, the total change in Hall, all the agreements with the world and world power shifting. But the big thing's President Trump, he's got a pretty intense situation going on in his life. A lot of people look at it whether it's from the government and the court stuff that's going on, or whether or not he's colluded. But the big thing is there's gonna be so much confusion in the world, he's gonna be having to take on confusing information while being kind of attacked at the same time. So the mental stress is the biggest one. Is he gonna mentally be able to handle it?

SPEAKER_00 1:24:20

Astrologist David Palmer, aka the Leo King, who is joining us again here on ET Live. I know. I'm so excited. Thanks for coming back. We appreciate having you, especially during Mercury retrograde.

SPEAKER_18 1:24:31

I know. Literally, the elevator on the way up was going up, no, it went down. You got in the building, you're here on the show.

SPEAKER_15 1:24:38

I made it. You made it. I mean, all right, it's airy season.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:41

So, well, the reality TV, the first one was 2005. I did a show on MTV called Parental Control. And back then that was like the first of reality. Real world was the first reality show, and then it was these dating shows that MTV brought out, but they were very extreme, and they were all LA Orange County based because that was where they got all their talent.

SPEAKER_18 1:25:02

And so we got reruns all the time. And then I did next with the next bus, where it's like five guys or five girls in a bus, and then the person who's gonna pick the dates can basically have five choices and just say next, next.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:14

It was a really big show. So the MTV had me do both of them back to back. So I was on two shows replaying all the time. And that was where I was like, if I combine this with astrology, there's something there.

SPEAKER_18 1:25:31

It's all about not being afraid of learning and having expectations of going through a whole season. The way that my riding style is is really aggressive and really fast, and I like to do that as clean as possible. I don't know if it's really like motorcycle riding, I'd say it's it's jet skiing, baby.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:18

That's like the 30s right there. That was like the 30s.

SPEAKER_16 1:26:22

Yeah, that was uh that was a nice little you gotta create one for me now. I'll give you all the footage. Put it together. I need you to boast me up for me.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:30

Oh, you have to yeah, you have to make an EPK.

SPEAKER_16 1:26:33

Yeah, I have one. I have an EPK. I just need to send it to one of my EPK. I'm kidding, I'm kidding. I'm kidding, because I'm so not good at like boasting myself. I'm I'm just horrible at it. I don't care. That's my problem. I need someone who cares that's like Scott, do this. And that was that was genius.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:50

Oh, yeah. I mean, I yeah, no, it's just you're like me, you have plenty of content, so it's just like kind of giving people like a narrative, like why why is it unique? What makes it different?

SPEAKER_16 1:27:04

Yeah, I need someone to to uh create that for me because I'm always doing it myself. I'm like, I don't fucking know what people want to see.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:11

You know, I mean I don't even know if people do like it. I mean, I just I maybe that's a Leo thing, right? Like, well, I like myself, so I guess I have no problem to do that. So but I don't look at it like I really like this. It's more just like huh, okay, I gotta it's like it's like marketing, like I gotta put it out there like I did all these things.

SPEAKER_16 1:27:31

I have I see I don't have that bone. I need that bone, the marketing bone. Like I can't. You know why?

SPEAKER_04 1:27:36

Especially with TV, if they didn't watch it on TV, they're not watching it on the internet. So it's like by me making videos and then putting it on the internet, it's like oh wait, like that fool did that, you know what I mean? Like, you know, like I I think that's the difference.

SPEAKER_16 1:27:53

Does anybody even fucking watch TV anymore? I mean, does anybody exist on the streets?

SPEAKER_04 1:27:56

I mean, I do just because I'm old and I have direct digital. Baseball.

SPEAKER_16 1:28:01

Oh, baby. Well, that's different. That's different. It's different.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:04

But you know, like I'll uh I'll once a game's over or something, I'll like switch and I'll check the news for a second. But no, I don't watch TV. You're right.

SPEAKER_16 1:28:11

Yeah, but majority of people, like I'm just streaming, is like I catch everything on streaming and paying like hundred bucks on fucking subscriptions of just for channels and certain shows, or I'll buy the show outright, you know, because I'm like at least I own it, you know. Right.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_16 1:28:28

Apple TV stuff all the time, right? But I'm just saying, like, who like subscribes, like even like us being late or on time or what now? I'm like, it's not TV, it's it's recorded. They have it's a built-in TiVo YouTube, right? Touch the replay, you know.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:41

Can you believe TiVo even existed when then the cable boxes then came out with their own just on demand? Remember that? It was like they stole that shit. I know they were like, Oh, this is smart. All right, let's just do that.

SPEAKER_16 1:28:53

Then we'll have everybody rent it from us, and then converting, like taking them, you have to give up the box, converting it all to like DVD or converting to like VHS at that time.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:02

Yeah, you know, I have I have those still here, so for me, I can just take you have watched all my old tapes, yeah.

SPEAKER_16 1:29:09

Oh, yeah, the tapes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so I can't believe like my my our cell phones. Uh like I watch like older music videos from like the 90s, 2000s. Like our cell phones have better quality than those music videos back in those days. I know, isn't that crazy?

SPEAKER_04 1:29:25

I mean, but that that was tape though.

SPEAKER_16 1:29:28

I know, but I'm just saying, it's just crazy. Like, we have this little thing in our pocket, and we can like have HD. We stream.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:34

But that's the makes no sense to buy all the war videos. Like, the mic, why are they using like really old cell phones? But it's not even that because um I follow this one influencer on he does technology. He took the newest iPhone 17 Pro Max this year, and then went all the way to iPhone one and took a picture. You don't even see a difference, really, it's very minimal. Seriously, interesting. Yeah, so we've it's not like they've done much to it. They make us think that, of course, for video and to to to actually video video, but for picture, you look at the iPhone one, you look at the iPhone two, three, four, and you don't see a difference to the 15, 16, or 17. You can't even really tell.

SPEAKER_06 1:30:18

You know what's funny though, like when we look they claim it when you claim it's better. They claim it's better.

SPEAKER_16 1:30:23

When you look at the old news, when you look at old news clips from like you know, when there's like wars back on CNN, and like now you'll really I look, I'm like, that's a green screen. They're really fooling us. We thought they were actually there, like we look back, and we've been duped by so much shit. Well, the moon landing. Let's talk about the moon landing.

SPEAKER_06 1:30:40

We didn't talk about that yet.

SPEAKER_13 1:30:41

Well, let's talk about that.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:42

Yeah, I want to know if if Neil Armstrong's the first person. No, he's obviously lying.

SPEAKER_06 1:30:49

Who put the camera on the moon first to have him that's what I said. And I here's the thing I've said that myself because you know what they say, oh, it was on the one of the legs of the of the things. Like, no, cameras back then were the size of a house, they were gigantic, they didn't have cameras, they were tiny, they could be on like a leg of a of a spaceship that was made of aluminum foil to begin with. They had aluminum foil spaceships, first of all, they're aluminum foils like colors, yeah.

SPEAKER_16 1:31:15

And there's discrepancies with the flag, it shouldn't have been blowing that way. There's discrepancies with the lighting, the lighting shouldn't have been lit this way. Like, there's so many discrepancies with that. But like I was I was saying to you guys before, how we were able to do it then, but how many years now we're doing it now?

SPEAKER_06 1:31:30

We lost the technology, they said. How the fuck do you lose technology?

SPEAKER_16 1:31:34

What the fuck have we been doing between then and now?

SPEAKER_06 1:31:36

Technology is built on technology is built on technology.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:37

How can you lose it? That that's the the the whole Apollo program, they lost everything. That's what they said about the Artemis, right? It was like oh, we have to start from the beginning. We lost all the old manuals, we lost all the old capsules. We don't know. I'm like, you gotta be you you don't throw any of that shit away.

SPEAKER_06 1:31:53

Seriously. Well, the space shuttle. Hello, that wasn't long as losing it. We built actually the truth is we haven't grown at all. I honestly think that it's all it's all a myth. First of all, those paper clip, the operation paperclip. That was that's the start of NASA. NASA is from the paperclip people, yes, and the rocket guy, yes, and and what's his name? I can't remember. Uh he's the first video leaving the atmosphere.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:19

But actually, I believe that video, and then I think they were like, Oh, wait, hold on.

SPEAKER_06 1:32:23

There's something we don't want people to see. There is something you don't want us to see. Allegedly, there's a black hole like on the top of the earth and the bottom of the earth, like a big black hole.

SPEAKER_16 1:32:30

There's a hole the earth and can we actually break the earth's atmosphere? Can we actually leave it? Is that possible?

SPEAKER_06 1:32:37

You did the firmament enough. I believe in Voyager, like the Voyager program, and like the one that took pictures of Jupiter. I mean, I believe that was real. I mean, I think we did get space probes out there. I do think planets are round. I do I do feel like I mean everything in God's world is round.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:51

I mean, you could look in your own telescope and look at the planets, so it's like of course.

SPEAKER_10 1:32:56

Did you guys did you guys see the video where there was like a little kid talking to the astronaut? But that was a weird, awkward, random act of silence right there.

SPEAKER_16 1:33:06

That's does that happen? Um but I mean, yeah, I mean, I think are we really going for the moon? I mean, there's obviously some with the moon. I want to see the other side of it. I mean, did they say with the pictures are out?

SPEAKER_04 1:33:15

I mean, it it looks it looks darker and it looks like it hit had more things hit it. Looks like there's probably ice.

SPEAKER_06 1:33:21

You know why this happened is because it really elon must there's settling up there.

SPEAKER_16 1:33:25

I'm sorry, there's there's sediment up there on the other side.

SPEAKER_06 1:33:28

I think it's a lot of people. Well, they say there's a whole apparently the damn thing's a big base, anyways. It's a it's allegedly hollow. Yeah, even according to like the Martian legend, you know, when psychics go back to the whole that's you know, there's a planet that was the asteroid belt was actually a planet, Mars was at war with the asteroid belt, Mars is in the place where the Earth is now because the extra solar system, the planets are actually moving out of the soul away from the sun every year. So it's like we're now in the orbit of where Mars was and and Venus was blah blah blah. So apparently Mars is in the good the in the Goldilocks zone before, and there was there were people on Mars or things on Mars, and there was another nation on the uh asteroid belt, and they got into war and blew up the the asteroid belt, and that war ended up killing off the atmosphere of Mars. Now, I have a saying the other day, I believe that uh Elon Musk was the guy who did it.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:09

That's my theory, and that's why he wants to go back.

SPEAKER_06 1:34:12

Well, I think he feels guilty, he's got he's got his karma to repair, he's gonna like you know repair that planet. So I think he's a like legitimate threat to government because uh he knows.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:20

But it's kind of funny though, because he switched everything to the moon and he's a double cancer. I'm like, of course, you know what though I that makes sense to me.

SPEAKER_06 1:34:27

Yeah, because he was being a wild day boy and going straight from Mars, and they're like, dude, he they told him all along. You gotta start the moon, you gotta start with the moon. Everyone told me you gotta start with the moon, and if I think it just dawned, I'm like, Oh shit, I do have to start the moon because I need a what and a pit stop, you know.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:38

I think it was just yeah, like a cancer can act like all manly, like Tom Cruise, right? He can he can play the actor part of like any kind of like really hardcore male, but in real life, he's really you know jumping on the couch for Kate fucking you know and shit like that.

SPEAKER_06 1:34:53

It's like yeah, eating pudding on commercials, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:55

Right, so yeah, and screaming at people if they don't watch a movie like the right way on their television.

SPEAKER_06 1:35:02

We're talking about Wilcox. I actually believe a lot of that. I I feel when I heard that stuff that there's a secret space program that the United States is in ju is in the orbit of Jupiter in a matter of minutes every day. I got a feeling that's the truth.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:14

I think I think David Wilcox has some good things, but he's a he's also really lost in some other he like reads every show off this diary prophecy thing. He's using his own diary as a prophecy for now. Yeah, and it makes no sense. I don't even know how people sit through it. I'm like, what? And then he'll he'll just cherry pick it to whatever's happening in this moment. I'm like that's what he said. You have to watch it and like he's just picking whatever he had written, like 25 years. Like it's so weird.

SPEAKER_06 1:35:47

That's why the girl hasn't had him, he hasn't been suicided, you know.

SPEAKER_16 1:35:49

Like, he feels a little he also feels a little sensationalized to me, too. A little bit, there's a lot of sensationalism that blends into a lot of those work, too. I'm like, okay, it's kind of sensationalism, right? Yeah, he his own created, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:01

He he right he he did some bad things, that's why he got X'd out of the community with Gaia, dude. Like what did he do?

SPEAKER_16 1:36:08

Because I I think I stopped subscribing to Gaia before that happened.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:11

From from because you know, I'm in this community deep, right? Yeah, so the the the the beans are that he took the yo yoga girls that worked at Gaia in Colorado in intense with ecstasy and cheated on his girl, and like you know, that's not that bad though.

SPEAKER_06 1:36:34

I mean, that's pretty much every guru, you know.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:37

I'm not saying he was right, I mean it's it's it's like that, and then also the bullshit, and then stealing other people's like content and claiming it was his, as far as like right. Yeah, I remember that part. Yes, that's why, and then like kind of coming out like he made all these guarantees of like disclosures 2017, and right, like, and they all didn't come to pass, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:37:04

So that's where ego got in the way. I think a lot of people who so spiritual people quite often are idiots with their ego, but they've been nothing but spiritual in past lives, they've only been spiritual, they've been in monk monasteries, done.

SPEAKER_04 1:37:15

So when they that's why you use astrology because it's a guarantee, it's like it's not the ego, it's like I the astrology says this.

SPEAKER_06 1:37:23

So the irony is the person who's most holy is usually the dumbest as far as an idiot, you know, with an ego, because they have not developed ego, they weren't cowboys, they weren't soldiers, they didn't have past lives where they were macho and got over it. And so the first little taste of power, they fuck it up.

SPEAKER_16 1:37:36

You know, that's exactly what I was gonna say. Then they realize they have so much. I think the thing that gets people is when they realize they have so much influence, yeah. You know, because a lot of people get into spirituality because they don't feel influence, they need a higher power, so I get to that you know, whole regimen mentality, and then like, oh my god, I have all this influence, and so that yeah, they get lost in that.

SPEAKER_04 1:37:52

You can't could you see him with those chicks with the Teds of Colorado, like pulling out that old book of his, like, this is my prophecy book. You're supposed to get an ecstasy with me right now based off this line that I wrote in 1992. Wow.

SPEAKER_16 1:38:05

The line he snorted in 1980.

SPEAKER_04 1:38:07

Like, wow, that's uh like you know, like the girls getting all creamed up for that, like you know, like geez. Now it would be that's where I think he I think he pushed it like to where it was like very like there was lawsuits.

SPEAKER_06 1:38:21

Uh well he's going down that guru path. He's going down that guru path, you know.

SPEAKER_04 1:38:25

Like so many spiritual that's why that's why you don't sleep in the same quarters, uh, you know, if you do a spiritual event, you don't see customers. Yes, no, you make it about the work.

SPEAKER_16 1:38:37

I mean, you know, it's like yeah, but there's a lot of people in spirituality very vulnerable, right? So especially with religion, so then they realize I have this influence and they're vulnerable, so I can kind of do it. I they get the god complex, you know what I mean? And they always look like they always look like kind of goofy to these god complexes people, they don't even look like they match the the title, you know what I'm saying? Like odd.

SPEAKER_04 1:38:57

Well, yeah, and then David Wilco, I don't know if you see, like I mean, he has like eight cameras around and he can't figure out which camera to stay on, so he's just constantly like it's like it's like it's like the one okay, we're gonna do the wide shot overlooking, but like then you're gonna go to the extreme close-up, then to like your left. Yeah, it's uh it's like it's like he it's like he's just diddling around. It's like I'm like, oh dude.

SPEAKER_06 1:39:26

Well, he has he has usefulness. Do you believe he was uh he was um aggregacy? No, because he says he was aggregacy in his last life.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:35

Well, no, he's obviously failing really bad.

SPEAKER_16 1:39:38

Yeah, no, I don't get that.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:40

I think Edgar Casey actually did real psychic work where this guy's failing hard.

SPEAKER_16 1:39:45

Yeah, again, sensationalized copy and paste.

SPEAKER_06 1:39:48

Yeah, yeah, Eggricay was certainly wise, but I don't know if you always carry your wisdom. Well, I think you do carry your wisdom.

SPEAKER_16 1:39:54

Well, I well, I think to a certain degree, you you maintain that same level of power, you might express in a different way when you reincarnate. So I would think he would still have a heightened sense of the psychic power if he were in this incarnation.

SPEAKER_06 1:40:05

Whether he turned into ecstasy and turning in ecstasy intense this time. It's like that's his possibility.

SPEAKER_04 1:40:10

Well, and I think having some sort of original form of spirituality for him, he's a copycat of like what what do these people say, and then just putting that together instead of his own original spiritual insight, right?

SPEAKER_06 1:40:23

It's like if you follow past lives though, it's so funny because people usually do bounce around between like very famous to like idiot to famous. I mean, it it's uh it's weird the way it's numbered. I think it's because it's to keep things in balance, yeah.

SPEAKER_16 1:40:35

But but but but to me, it would be like a like for example, if he had that psychic power pre previously, this incarnation, he'd probably have the complete opposite of that, or abusing it to some degree, or making it you know really intense and creating change. This guy just seems not so developed, like on the soul level when it comes out of building. Oh, he doesn't, you know what I'm saying? I agree because you wouldn't have to phone it in, you wouldn't have to kind of like you know sensationalize it, you know what I mean. This because wisdom really is.

SPEAKER_06 1:40:59

I mean, you look at Davy, you can say you just have to have children. Aren't you fucking amazed at how these kids are know so much already?

SPEAKER_04 1:41:05

Like you're oh, yeah, very much.

SPEAKER_06 1:41:06

Like there's so much intelligence and so much, like, oh my god, there's so much in there that you didn't have anything to do with, and you're just like, where's this coming from? And it's the past lives. I mean, we bring that we bring the soul and the experience right into the right into that.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:18

I just pulled up his chart, I never knew what it was. He's a Pisces sun, Pisces Venus, Pisces Merc, uh his degree of the sun is 18 degrees, Pisces. That's ego, that's ego right there. I'm an 18, and then his Mercury retrograde in Pisces is 27, and his ego number in Pisces is 10 in the fourth house. He's a Scorpio rising at 21 degrees. Oh, teacher, he has Saturn and Gemini. He's born 73, like you.

SPEAKER_06 1:41:45

Oh my god, oh my god, fuck.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:48

His his grand his grand trine is not like his his does it his missus.

SPEAKER_06 1:41:54

There's another grand trine later that year. Let's see. So he's a screen when you were born, he's a Pisces, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:58

Yeah, so he was the buildup to the grand trine, but he didn't get it. So he's the one of those guys who he's close, but it's not it, not too much, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:42:07

Yeah, where's all wired together the air signs?

SPEAKER_04 1:42:09

Yeah, plus he's all Pisces like that in the fourth house.

SPEAKER_06 1:42:12

Still, there's something about our generation that's weird because it's the lowest birth rate in the entire century.

SPEAKER_04 1:42:16

Yeah, I never knew that he has a moon in Taurus, um at 12 degrees.

SPEAKER_06 1:42:22

Yeah, yeah. That's why I kind of he feels like he feels I can hang out with himself. He'd annoy me, but he'd hang out with his son's in the sixth, or what?

SPEAKER_10 1:42:29

I would love to see you guys talk to David Wilcock. In fact, he's here!

SPEAKER_04 1:42:35

I wouldn't mind talking to him.

SPEAKER_10 1:42:36

I would be the I'm gonna be the unpopular one here and say and stand up for David Wilcock because he he was talking about shit that before when it was very unpopular. Oh, you can't hear me. Oh I can hear you, I hear you, I hear you.

SPEAKER_16 1:42:51

He's not on my screen. I'm afraid I'm afraid if I refresh it, oh you guys can hear me.

SPEAKER_10 1:42:54

Uh whatever.

SPEAKER_16 1:42:57

I don't know he's not showing him on.

SPEAKER_10 1:42:58

Well, I'm gonna give props to David Wilcock because he was talking.

SPEAKER_16 1:43:03

If I was talking on top of you, because I don't even see or hear you, so I'm afraid it'll be talking at the moment.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:09

Just refresh, dude. It'll it'll bring you back in. Yeah, refresh.

SPEAKER_06 1:43:14

I'd say refresh. Well okay. Okay, he refreshed.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:18

Oh well, I'm just refreshing. I would say that you are correct though, Morgan. Like when he came in, he came in hot, but then he had courage. I think it's sad to watch somebody come in hot and then just completely just like lose it and not come like and and continue to try and throw pasta on the wall and it ain't sticking. Yeah, just slowly die in front of you.

SPEAKER_10 1:43:38

I just think that he he took a lot of risks to to put himself out there, and I think the other thing I like about him is that he doesn't take himself too seriously.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:47

I think um, yeah, I I've gotten a lot from yeah, but he did it on the backs of a lot of people, like there was Corey Good, there was all these uh uh whole water, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 1:43:59

Of course, you guys were closer to it. I knew I never heard about that. Um those controversies.

SPEAKER_06 1:44:04

It's got a Pisces, you know, Pisces is like two fish different ways. Like there's a good Wilcox and there's a Wilcox that just undermines that good Wilcox, it's like Russell Brand. Yes, very good example.

SPEAKER_10 1:44:16

That is a big, big topic there. Hit the Fabian connection, hey, Russell Brand.

SPEAKER_04 1:44:22

Well, I just think it's like he was at Conscious High F Expos the headliner right after David Wilcox was the headliner that failed, right? Like everybody's like back away from David, and then it was like Russell Brand, and then right after that, then Russell Brand like kind of goes off, and then once all the sex stuff comes up, he's like a Christian now.

SPEAKER_16 1:44:40

Christian, yeah, Christian influencer. Look, I just think I think when when spirituality became a business, do you have these people are kind of in it just enter it and compare it stuff? I think we have a lot of that going on in spiritual communities because it became such a big business. Became a trend.

SPEAKER_06 1:44:55

I think we're just easy for you to watch on respect. Like there were you know, when the there were gypsies that were lousy and gypsies that were good, you know. It's like I think every time, every every lifetime with spiritualizers, some assholes faking it. Every lifetime, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:45:11

Right? He's making it like at the beginning of the movie, like with his little like tarot bandwagon thing, and then you know it's funny, it's unfortunate, but you know, that's the that's the leap of faith.

SPEAKER_06 1:45:26

It's inevitable with spirituality. You have to you have to go in yourself and find out for yourself. There's no way around it. I always tell people, I can't convince you, you have to try yourself and see what you see, but I'm certain of past lives, I'm certain of these things, but from my experiences that all that I've had. Sure. Undeniable. Right.

SPEAKER_04 1:45:43

So if David Wilcock was was was Edgar Casey, he'd be talking about that more.

SPEAKER_16 1:45:49

Right. I agree. There'll be more depth into past life incarnations and connections and so forth.

SPEAKER_06 1:45:54

You know, no expensive I've had nothing but expansion of my past life knowledge as I've gotten older, not not less. You know, it's it's something that keeps opening up and opening up. And now Atlantis is really starting to open up, really legitimately.

SPEAKER_04 1:46:04

I can't believe it, but I'm having the I'm gonna say my last thing on Dave Wilcock is that he he really bought the Q thing. Where we now that you're realizing this. Okay, this is a good topic. What was the Q thing? What was it? That was the Q thing. This is a great topic Q movement, right? And that was it all the Epstein files revealed that like he was the investor with this other dude for 4chan, the guy who started it that got the Q movement going, and so Epstein ran both sides of the like the opposition. Uh Epstein was Q. He funded the guy who started he funded 4chan, which that's where it started, and all that shit. And then made comments right about it to to so he was playing both sides, right?

SPEAKER_16 1:46:53

Wow, at least to release the truth, but then also then to suede it in a direction where it doesn't exist, correct? Right, and so this does come up looking somewhere else, and instead of where the people I felt like the people who put on Q are the people actually, you know, the people who are the ones that are talking about.

SPEAKER_04 1:47:10

That's where Wilcock is trying to do the same thing with his own work, is trying to say, like, well, the old posts from the Q page, right? Like all the Q stuff that you try to like the dates are off, but you try to say, but this fits that. He does that with his own work, which to me is like you're crazy.

SPEAKER_10 1:47:28

Morgan, what were you saying? Morgan. Oh, oh, I just I I was thinking, like, what are if you were to make a list of all the things that Q brought into the collective consciousness, like all the topics that nobody was fucking talking about, it's true, and it was it was like a it seemed at the time that it was a back channel to disseminate information, it's sort of like predictive programming and movies or whatever, but they they laid the groundwork for all this stuff that is now come to pass.

SPEAKER_06 1:48:01

So actually, I think what they did was they taught a lot of it over. People were taught to look between people for the first time goes, Wait, maybe we're not getting the right thing. Maybe there's something beyond this, maybe there's something beyond, and that's when really the veil broke when we started to actually look beyond what we were seeing. That was a huge Q did that. I think it gets you know, and the people who follow Q were people who would not do that, you know. These are the people direct Christians I heard, you know, like stay within their belief structure system and they went outside.

SPEAKER_16 1:48:29

I do I do think that psyop, and I agree with you, Christopher. And I think that psyop also was created, even though it's it's truth, was because I think they knew it was gonna come out at some point, and they were gonna be the light was gonna go toward them. So I believe that they kind of premeditated setting it up to get it out first and control be able to control the information. That's why I think that when it's administration is in its office to control the access of this information. Um, and so I think that's why the initial intention of doing so was so like because I was so interested.

SPEAKER_04 1:48:56

That's why you know a lot of it got centered in in Scottsdale in Arizona, right? Like the Q movement really got posit, and then guess where Charlie Kirk put TP USA's headquarters? Exactly. What happened to him, right?

SPEAKER_13 1:49:11

Right, right.

SPEAKER_04 1:49:12

So and Erica Kirk ended up there from from every other dude's bed to Israel to back to America and everybody else's bed and a girl's bed for two years, right? All that's come out that she was in a lesbian relationship for two years, right? Like and lying to all the Christians, right? So it's actually she's she's the most interesting kind of kind of like psyop as well, right? Like, you know, like what do you mean?

SPEAKER_03 1:49:38

I wasn't dating anybody before I met Charlie for all this. Like, yeah, right.

SPEAKER_16 1:49:44

Yeah, was she on a dating reality show too? She was on a dating reality show, wasn't she?

SPEAKER_04 1:49:48

Oh, yeah, and then the the the dudes that she was in relationship with have all the pictures on their Facebooks, and all the years she says that she was single. Yeah, and then the girl that she was living with, like. Like all the pictures are in the girls' hotel, or I mean in her apartment in New York. Like, you know.

SPEAKER_16 1:50:05

Well, and didn't she also have you know win a Trump pageant too back in the time, too? She was wherever she was. Of course she did. Of course. She's a plan. I mean, hello. You know, it's just I think people are just not seeing the clues. And I feel like like I feel spirit is like it's look, we're gonna make it even more obvious. You guys are gonna wake up now. I feel like there's a task going on because it feels so goddamn obvious at this point, like it's being pushed in our face, all the facts, and the evidence is it's crazy.

SPEAKER_04 1:50:32

Yeah, I mean, honestly, I I mean I'll say it about the Artemis, you know, the green screen thing that the blip.

SPEAKER_16 1:50:38

I'm with you, David. I'm with you on it on that. I believe you.

SPEAKER_06 1:50:41

I don't I'm surprised. Well, first of all, everybody's getting the green screen thing right. We all have green screens, you're not seeing our little things, you know what I mean. Like, right, it's not that hard a technology to master at this point, you know.

SPEAKER_04 1:50:52

Right, I know, and we're we're using, I mean, they're supposedly using the best equipment in the world, right? Seriously, the stuff we have.

SPEAKER_16 1:50:58

Where's the raw footage? Where's the raw footage? I want to see raw footage of their phone, their cameras, out. I want to see raw footage, not these like doctored up my question was always like, where'd they get the moon rocks?

SPEAKER_06 1:51:09

Because moon rocks are heavy, and that means you're picking up rocks off the moon and you're shipping. How'd that happen? Because the weight is so important as far as how much can go up and down when you have to do rocket ship, like they're they're calculating weight just like they do for airlines. Everyone weighs on the airline, they move people around on airlines just so the damn thing doesn't think that doesn't you know crash. And so, how did you get a bunch of rocks?

SPEAKER_04 1:51:27

They made them take a shit on the moon because the they probably calculated the kilograms of shit that you would get out to make sure that you could put it on the true.

SPEAKER_06 1:51:36

That's true.

SPEAKER_04 1:51:36

So probably it's probably the astronauts poop sitting there, sure.

SPEAKER_16 1:51:41

That was probably the meteors were phone the other day, too. Just turn into the residue of fucking meteor shit, you know.

SPEAKER_06 1:51:48

But if it isn't the lightside of the moon, probably burned up.

SPEAKER_16 1:51:51

I th I think it's all distraction. I think that they're doing something else in outer space. We think we're doing the whole moon thing, or something else distraction. The timing of this is rather perfect with the war and the the the actual thoughts on the tip of release.

SPEAKER_06 1:52:02

It's a Truman show, and they're and they're on the other side of the moon directing.

SPEAKER_16 1:52:05

Oh, did you hear that Lutnick and Gates are tested are set to testify? Actually, they're been subpoenaed.

SPEAKER_04 1:52:10

Yeah, and and I know people think that Matt Gates is a bad person, but he was cleared of all the wrongdoing, and he's the one who outed Kevin McCarthy, right? The first sitting Congressperson to ever actually get rid of a speaker of the house. So, of course, Kevin McCarthy worked in that backdoor area, what they just passed a month ago, where they're never going to expose how many people in Congress have done bad sexual stuff, right? That it's all kept into the secret chambers where they have their own like setup of like doing their conduct, right? That's within them themselves. And so they come out when Matt Gates is gonna run to be the AG and they try to use that to get him away.

SPEAKER_06 1:52:56

Yeah, yeah. But not gates is naive about it.

SPEAKER_04 1:52:58

They don't show you the evidence, they just say that's what we thought. Kevin McCarthy's behind it after being ounced it.

SPEAKER_06 1:53:04

Yeah, I think Matt Gates doesn't understand the dark very well, so he he gets outmaneuvered a lot. He gets outmaneuvered a lot.

SPEAKER_04 1:53:09

Well, he's not a he was born on a full moon in Scorpio, he's a Taurus.

SPEAKER_06 1:53:14

There you go. We uh we get I get outmaneuvered all the time.

SPEAKER_16 1:53:17

But but not Matt Gates, David, and he's not the one getting subpoenaed, it's uh Sid Bill Gates is the one getting subpoenaed. Oh, I saw that.

SPEAKER_04 1:53:23

Yeah, I was about to say okay, like yeah, like Matt Gates is the one who put the Matt Gates is the one who put the fucking uh the the the uh the but Hunter Biden laptop into evidence right all of that. So of course they're gonna try and get him out. Yeah, yeah. I got a question enough the alien stuff. I'm gonna listen because the people the people who whatever you have balls to put out shit, you get ousted now.

SPEAKER_13 1:53:50

Oh, yeah, that's true. It's true.

SPEAKER_04 1:53:52

Uh yeah, usually kills ousted.

SPEAKER_10 1:53:57

I wanted to ask you guys, what is your current take on Jim Carrey? Have you seen anything yet that makes you feel like he it's all all good in Jim Carrey world?

SPEAKER_04 1:54:07

I get eyes on during he's around.

SPEAKER_10 1:54:09

It's been like a month. Have you seen anything convincing? Uh where is he?

SPEAKER_06 1:54:14

I don't know. He's he's I think I think he's got honestly, I think he's got some sort of Epstein tie, not you know, and regrets it. He's got something he's talking about. That's the one thing I just don't cycle.

SPEAKER_16 1:54:27

I didn't feel like there was a clone of Jim Carrey. That's one thing I don't I don't feel like. Is he going to some shit? Like I said before, because he's seen some shit and he does some shit, yeah. Absolutely. Um, but yeah, I never really felt that he's a clone. There was a clone of him, and you know, I just you know, he's also disappeared for several years, and no one ever talked about him. So all of a sudden, Jim Carrey's why is he the topic of conversation? I my question is, you know, because he showed up beat everyone thought he's a clone. Is that why? Well, has anybody seen the real Jim Carrey yet? It's been like a month.

SPEAKER_04 1:54:54

Well, I think anybody you see that gets propped up to that big of a status sells themselves out to the dark. They just gonna say there's no way he got whether it's Charlie Charlie Kirk, I think, figured out like, oh my god, she's a plant, too late, too. Like it all became too late, and that's why he went off for the last two weeks before he got killed. I think you're right. I think anyone that's at that level has definitely if you make it to that level because Charlie's all tried here, and the only way through there is some really dark path that you can sense way before even getting to it, like uh never never mind.

SPEAKER_06 1:55:28

Because they won't let anyone get more popular or powerful than their own plants, and so whatever whoever they are.

SPEAKER_16 1:55:35

Why is Jim Carrey the topic though? Like, why is Jim Carrey become this like topic of focus of it?

SPEAKER_04 1:55:39

That's what I think so weird. His name wasn't in the Epstein files.

SPEAKER_06 1:55:43

No, we were talking about it like they promised that he was in there. We had the first episode, we had a story about it. I can't remember what it was. About was that really him, right?

SPEAKER_04 1:55:52

When he showed up, and then it doesn't look like him and he was in France.

SPEAKER_16 1:55:56

He did not look like it it was him.

SPEAKER_04 1:55:59

I mean, I again that's yeah, because I saw a video of like eight months ago, and he looked the same. Like he did rehearsing, yeah, and he was rehearsing.

SPEAKER_16 1:56:07

They said, and if it was prosthetics, a prosthetics professional said he would be like dripping after after like 10 minutes or 15 minutes. They would have to keep doing retouches, you know. So yeah, um, I agree. I believe in clones, I do, but I just feel like Jim Carrey is just very odd and go into very weird space, and it and it that started like six years ago, six, seven years ago.

SPEAKER_04 1:56:29

It's more tiger blood charlie phase. Oh my god, yeah, because you know, I want the Charlie documentary was amazing because it was like, yeah, okay, like what happened, bro? Like I love the way he described. He's like, Well, all I could say is, you know, you look at the menu, and I looked on the other side of the menu, and I just let's just say I tried everything on the menu, yeah, right? Like, and so and he owned it, and he just was like, Yeah, I fucking got like lost on crack for a long time after Tiger Blood, and I just fucking explored my sexuality, and then I ended up fucking like quitting because they they you know they they got his dealer to start taking crack out of his crack to where it was finally just pure baking soda. Like, this is a true fact why that was the only way because he was like, I'm hitting this and I'm just not getting high anymore. So he finally just gave up, and it took two and a half, three years to do that. Wow, it's that addictive. Wow, yeah, to where his dealer started giving him like baking soda, and like that's what did it.

SPEAKER_06 1:57:37

Wow, and that's that system.

SPEAKER_04 1:57:38

I mean, that's Hollywood too, and it's in its uh right, but like Charles Charlie Sheen is another person who you would think would be on it, but obviously not, right? Like he came out against the system too. Yeah, yeah, right. I'll never forget because you and I were doing shows when he came. We were we were together doing shows, Chris, when he did that, and I'll never forget him smoking a fucking cigarette on fucking national news CBS, like his interview in his living room. Like, I'm fucking full of tiger blood, bitch. Like, I'm I'm I'll pound 50 pound rocks, like you know, like I'm just like you're high.

SPEAKER_05 1:58:13

Winning.

SPEAKER_04 1:58:14

I was like that, yeah. Winnie, like that was that honestly, we were in the great recession, like it was such the everybody was so lame, and it was like Charlie was like a bright light at that moment of just like somebody being real.

SPEAKER_06 1:58:29

Yeah, his improving was nice. We were finally getting original content, and I think Jim Carrey didn't follow the script, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 1:58:36

Or he was compromised a long time ago and put in all these movies that are iconic that are like presenting the idea that we're living in a simulation like the Truman Show, or like I mean, he was in he was in all those movies that were uh that's true, kind of coming circling back around.

SPEAKER_16 1:58:55

But that's because his father, I think David Ike, all that from his father, you know, David David Icke has been doing David Icke has been exposing all this shit for decades. I don't know if you guys followed David Icke.

SPEAKER_04 1:59:05

I thought David David will follow, not David Wellcock, because David Icke. David Icke.

SPEAKER_16 1:59:09

Yeah, no, David Wilcox. No, David Icke is genius. I mean, he's just brilliant. I mean, on every level, and he's predicted a lot of these things. You know, I think he's the positive side of uh what's his face? Alex Jones, so to speak.

SPEAKER_04 1:59:19

Um honestly Alex Jones kind of took from the idea of David Icke. I believe so, and so we thought he was more intelligent because David Icke was doing in the 80s and was a famous sports caster, and then got put on that talk show and he wore all teal and saying this is a spiritual color to wear, started bringing all this stuff up spiritually, and then they outed him. Yep, and then he just sold out arenas for 30 years straight and made DVDs and that, and then Alex Jones came up with that idea of like, oh, I'm gonna do that. And that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_16 1:59:54

So, like to me, I always think David Icke was a very true source of information and knowledge.

SPEAKER_04 2:00:01

What do you think about Joe Rogan admitting on his show last week that he was in Colorado? I mean in Utah hunting when Charlie Kirk's death happened, but he forgot to remember he was live on air when Charlie Kirk died.

SPEAKER_06 2:00:27

So he made a big whoa. Right?

SPEAKER_04 2:00:30

So, like if you go look up the the moment Charlie Kirk died, he's live on air and it comes through and he talks about it. I forgot the guess, it's a big guest. Wait, so it's been pre-recorded, is what you're saying, or well, yeah, he had a blip where then he was saying I was in Utah that day when he died. I was hunting, and no, I wasn't anywhere near close to where the shot was. But then everybody went, What do you mean, dude? You're the guy who they they show all over the news for those two days of like the moment it happened because you're the biggest podcast in the world. I don't know, man. Live saying Charlie Kirk just died.

SPEAKER_06 2:01:13

So which one is it? What whatever mocking bird put in his head. I bet you he's been nabbed. I mean, he's too big.

SPEAKER_04 2:01:22

That's a big warning sign right there.

SPEAKER_06 2:01:24

He's waking up at 4 a.m. and this his agents take him out for reprogramming, is what's happening.

SPEAKER_04 2:01:30

Or the fact that Trump just dumped Tucker Carlson completely this week.

SPEAKER_06 2:01:34

What they broke up with Tucker. Well, what Tucker is we like Tucker's gonna. I don't like Tucker. I he's a Taurus, even I don't like him. I don't believe him. I don't believe him. I don't believe he really I don't believe when he says he's his his sincerity is false. His false sincerity. It's it that's it just I don't know.

SPEAKER_16 2:01:51

I don't mind him. I like his either. I just think right now I just he's a little loss of what to believe. So I think he's in his own personal battle of like what he really believes.

SPEAKER_06 2:02:01

This is about he's kind of he's kind of simple. It's like, dude, come on, you haven't thought about this for one minute? He's the Taurus, bro, the Taurus moon, dude, at the end of Taurus, Christian, like super Christian, and raised in a very well if that's what he says, right?

SPEAKER_04 2:02:15

This is the this is the thing about all the I don't feel that's valid. The the weird MAGA version, like that most of them just all became Christians, right?

SPEAKER_06 2:02:25

Well, we all yeah, well, yeah. Well, it's a good thing. There's something about that, yeah. Well, yeah, it's actually is something about what about um you know the woman who did the tarot card or did the uh angel cards, or or even yesterday two days yesterday, Alex Jones called for Trump to get the 25th Amendment.

SPEAKER_16 2:02:41

I was just I was just about to mention that. I was just about to say that. Yeah, it's like I mean, I was saying, I think we said this before the show. I'm like, yeah, Alex Jones is called for the 25th Amendment Trump?

SPEAKER_04 2:02:50

It's straight up like and that he's lost it, his marbles, and that they need to pull him out and get JD Vance in there now. I don't feel he's lost his marbles.

SPEAKER_10 2:02:58

Hey, does anybody know the Bill Hicks uh thing about Alex Jones? Have you seen this comedian Bill Hicks?

SPEAKER_04 2:03:06

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like that that not watching Alex Jones. There's all the whole thing too about Alex Jones losing all that weight over the last couple years, right? And then they that they replaced him with him.

SPEAKER_10 2:03:20

Yeah, look go look at a video of Bill Hicks. He died when he was 32.

SPEAKER_16 2:03:24

Well, again, that you're the thing's la so loud here, Mike. Oh, sorry, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you don't have to talk, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 2:03:29

Yeah, but but you have to remember, and this is ironic, right? Tucker's dad was CIA. Oh shit.

SPEAKER_05 2:03:36

Really?

SPEAKER_04 2:03:37

Alex Jones' dad was in the military intelligence.

SPEAKER_10 2:03:41

You know what? It was uh Jim Morrison, huh?

SPEAKER_06 2:03:44

I from what I hear, the CIA use their own children. I've heard that over and over again from the children. From the children. I can see the company we know that's the problem.

SPEAKER_04 2:03:52

I wouldn't be surprised if Tucker and Alex are raised to be government operatives, right?

SPEAKER_06 2:03:58

That are digitized, they could be dignetized, government officers.

SPEAKER_16 2:04:01

I don't think I say too. I really feel like Vance is gonna turn on Trump. I felt that since the day one of my approach on the bus. What I think of is turn on him. I don't think Vance is such an opportunist, so like I'll go a little bit. I agree with you.

SPEAKER_04 2:04:17

We have the same chart, and he's a double Leo, 12,000 like me, and we're just 10 days apart, and I progressed into his teacher when I was 10 years old. So don't start going there about him. He's not if anything, he's the spiritual light in that whole thing because he's gone against the war, he's oh this is back.

SPEAKER_06 2:04:33

This is our first gentleman's bet. This is our first gentleman's bet because I think we're all into something, but we all got it wrong. I personally think that Vance will turn on Trump when he passes and just reverse everything. And I think he will be like a Hitler, he's gonna just go crazy with his power. If you get his emails, I'm on his list. I get on everyone's list. His emails are like, geez, he's just he just goes off on rants. He's he's got this like killer Vance.

SPEAKER_04 2:04:56

They don't I've seen if you've seen the background, they don't do any of that. They have these girls that sit next to them with laptops and do all of it.

SPEAKER_16 2:05:02

Yeah, it's somebody else doing that.

SPEAKER_04 2:05:04

Yeah, but I just I definitely think he's gonna turn on Trump. But that might be the and then they use AI now of the of their of the the the MAGA like intensity and just automate it.

SPEAKER_06 2:05:13

Yeah, it's all automated. I believe that's true, and he's not very providing sense.

SPEAKER_04 2:05:18

I'm saying as a double Leo, right?

SPEAKER_06 2:05:21

Yeah, that's that can be good or bad.

SPEAKER_04 2:05:23

Same astrology, the same planets.

SPEAKER_06 2:05:25

Zero can be good or bad. You know, that's the interesting thing about astrology. You can have the same chart, and the person is a total total asshole.

SPEAKER_04 2:05:31

I mean, that's true, but uh he and he doesn't have a moon and tourist like me, he's a Libra. But David, you're obviously the good one, David. Don't worry. But David Well, I know that I'm just saying that I just know his chart. He has Venus where he has Sun Square Saturn, too. He's a he's not gonna if you choose fear, it becomes a different chart.

SPEAKER_16 2:05:50

David, what I'm saying is trying to excuse if if he interrupts or returns on Trump, it might be for the betterment of things. That's just what I think is gonna happen.

SPEAKER_06 2:05:59

Well, that's what I'm saying. I think I think he's just gonna go against him when he dies. I think Trump will die, and I think he's gonna give you a 180 on Trump and all of a sudden hate him. I don't think he has the balls actually to go against Trump.

SPEAKER_04 2:06:08

Well, he hated him before. Remember, he thought he was he called him a buffoon, all that stuff in 2016.

SPEAKER_16 2:06:13

He'll have the balls, Christopher. He'll have the balls when he realizes others aren't on board with him because then he'll feel like, oh, I have the opportunity here to get this out of the room.

SPEAKER_04 2:06:23

There's a caliance right now. There's RFK, Vance, Tulsi Gabber, that all are against the war, right? Yep, and that's why they're not the figureheads of the war right now, they're not allowed to talk. Vance is in the background, right? They're all just like, uh, I we support the president, but like they won't go farther than saying much of that, right?

SPEAKER_13 2:06:43

Right, and they have opinions, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 2:06:45

Right. So I and honestly, RFK's been exactly what he said he's gonna do and doing the right thing. Tulsi Gabber's doing the thing too.

SPEAKER_06 2:06:53

And people hate RFK, and I'm like, dude, uh, what's the problem? I he's I know he's being honest. What is it? They're like, they're like, he they do. I hear the worst things, but I'm like, so what he's a heroin addict. I'm like, that's why I trust him. I trust him because he was a heroin addict, and he came silver. Like, that is what you want.

SPEAKER_02 2:07:10

How do you think JD Mance got big as he wrote a book, heal Billy all in the movie because he was a fucking drug addict?

SPEAKER_06 2:07:17

Yeah, I'm seeing a flaw is not when you correct a flaw and you heal yourself, that makes me respect you. That doesn't make me disrespect you. People are flawless records are not trustworthy because as soon as you're gonna be seduced by the things that other people have been in and pulled themselves out of.

SPEAKER_16 2:07:32

I think RFK is RFK is RFK is very controversial, and I think I don't think he has the best tactic deal with some of the controversy to get people to be open-minded to it. So I think that triggers a lot of people.

SPEAKER_06 2:07:41

Why are people so triggering and it's like who's who why are you so worried about a vaccine, by the way? People, it's like this is a manufactured good. I don't see you fighting for Toyota. Why do we all of a sudden rally up against like this is I'm somehow a sinner for going against an industry? Like, no fuckers, you can't produce a you should produce a shot in nine months. I'm I'm not getting in a car you haven't spent more than nine months designing. I'm certainly not presenting my body to spend more than nine. That was my whole thing.

SPEAKER_16 2:08:03

Like, you spent nine months designing this, which we know is not true, but still I don't agree with I don't agree with everything RFK says, but I think a lot of what he's saying is great for people to be aware of right now, so that's why it doesn't bother me.

SPEAKER_04 2:08:13

Uh better than what we've been getting our whole lives, like in there, like hey, just like eat fucking shit.

SPEAKER_06 2:08:19

And great. He's right. No, he's right. I mean, we all know this, the light workers all know this. The food is full of crap. We know we have to we all know that it's all full of crap.

SPEAKER_04 2:08:28

We don't know people are upset about the glyphosate thing, but if you think about it, it came just a week and a half or two weeks before the war, right? And he even said, like, I we're switching into American chemical, and I don't want to do this, but if we do this, we need to continue to keep pumping because of our own ability to grow food, right? So he winked the war before anybody through that.

SPEAKER_06 2:08:50

Yeah, uh he's a smart man. Here's the thing his uncle died being murdered, his father was murdered. There's karma to pay for that. There's karma to pay for that. This you know, he's gonna find that the Kennedy family will be re somehow repaid, and it might be that this guy who can't you can't win every battle in a war like against food vaccines, right?

SPEAKER_04 2:09:08

So he had to go pick your battle and everything. We're not gonna change the whole entire glyphosate issue while we're gonna have a war that's gonna cut off all the food from the rest of the world, and we're gonna have to grow our own. And that's not the moment that you try to do the biggest deal.

SPEAKER_06 2:09:24

Why the fuck are we worried? We had the best soil, we had the best soil in the world, so Monsanto, you know, right? Exactly. And he went up against them, so you know he's he's you know what that's the thing. These light workers are not smart, they don't know the dark, so they don't they go in rushing, they don't know how to deal with these kinds of darkness. So he he winked about the war two weeks prior with that. Yeah, so this thing, people who are in the light, see when you are true in your heart, you just don't think how bad they'll be, how much they'll cheat, how far they'll go. And you just naively run out there, and you see time and again the person with a good voice or the person with the good message, they get wiped out because they don't know who they're dealing with. Well, they they just deem because spiritual too.

SPEAKER_16 2:10:04

But they deem because they don't like somebody. They did say everything they say is bad or evil. They don't take out five moments of that person they don't like, and they just shut down. I was too negative, and said pulling out the pause like that. I did it with RFK. I mean, he did ban you know, uh those that synthetic dies. You know, that's a start too, right? He put a ban for that.

SPEAKER_06 2:10:21

Apparently, he's a bang, he gets a popper. He ban poppers, apparently, so I've heard poppers are banned. Are you going through withdrawal, Chris? He closed he closed uh he closed poppers. No, I've heard men talk about it. He's closed poppers. I've said I live in I live in you know palm strength, rather. And I know he goes through with drawers. Oh, yeah, it's uh it's a they get mad about it. They really angry that he's gonna be.

SPEAKER_04 2:10:41

I don't even know what a popper is. It's like a little chemical.

SPEAKER_06 2:10:45

It's actually V Sarah. Yeah, they start people like will people smell it, yeah.

SPEAKER_16 2:10:51

They huff it before like having like this intercourse with you know sex and supposed to like relax them and heighten the the sensation. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_06 2:10:59

All right, yeah.

SPEAKER_16 2:11:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 2:11:01

Uh apparently it's been banned. So they there's some sort of a factories are closing, shutting down. No, that makes sense. Why are we making VCR head cleaner now when there's no VCRs? That's a good point.

SPEAKER_16 2:11:11

No, yeah, right. No one's saying RFK does get it passed, so that that that's an extreme. We're just I'm just able to see things that are beneficial what he's doing. Um, that can really help progress. Other aspects that are very important too.

SPEAKER_06 2:11:23

So alcohol is full of shit. It's full of crap and shit, and like California wine is full of crap and shit. And I'll tell you right now, if you if you try to close down California wine right now with all the sulfates and everything's in people would be mad and angry, and how dare you? It's like it's killing you. Don't you feel shitty the next day? You do. Yeah, it's not because the alcohol the Romans drink every day because they didn't have the shit in it.

SPEAKER_16 2:11:44

I agree with woke ones, but they all need to go. We need a whole revamp of a new generation of leaderships and politicians.

SPEAKER_06 2:11:50

100%.

SPEAKER_16 2:11:51

And actually, here's the fucking two part and the two party systems gotta fucking burn. That's the been the disease, the mental disease for a lot of people, the two party system. That's that's the brain work.

SPEAKER_06 2:12:00

It is that is definitely controlled. That was control of people to keep it in two. It was no, no, it was. I'm I'm doubting. Every time there's a third party, and they squash it out. Like media rallies against everything rallies against that third party. Right.

SPEAKER_04 2:12:15

Based off the astrology, it's gonna be up, and this might sound like I'm taking a side, but I'm not. But like the Republicans, they they used to be the Whigs, yeah.

SPEAKER_09 2:12:24

Right.

SPEAKER_04 2:12:24

And so, right, so like they've done the whole rename the party, change it to the GOP, right? Right, but the Democrats have never changed that since the Democratic Republican Party of Thomas Jefferson, right? So, like the problem based off the astrologer. If you look at the chart of when the Democratic Party started, it's at the end. It's actually a worse chart than like the political, right?

SPEAKER_06 2:12:51

So look, I've seen things flock. I was Democratic for a long time on that party for a long time. I saw the people who are rational and caring for life, cared for life. I'm talking about birthrights here, not talking about baby and abortions, people who actually care about life. I've seen in the Democrat Party that they're whatever they believe, it doesn't if if this if there's a believe this, then your life doesn't matter if you're going against this belief. Like you've gotten radical about the beliefs.

SPEAKER_16 2:13:17

Christians, the same shit. That's human that's just human nature. Well, no, Christians don't Christians don't do shit about that.

SPEAKER_04 2:13:24

Christians count on God to take it. You're a bad person, and we're not gonna help you.

SPEAKER_06 2:13:33

Christians count on God to do it, they don't actually get their hands dirty. They're like, I don't take care of him, he's going to hell. But Democrats are like, we're gonna rig it. Like they're there, it's a different philosophy. Putting take it on your own hands. I'm just I I only saw it in my lifetime. It wasn't that way when I was growing up. Jimmy Carter was a Democrat. I thought he was an amazing president when I was a kid.

SPEAKER_04 2:13:50

Even I might Reagan was a Democrat, then before, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 2:13:54

So it's so it's Trump.

SPEAKER_04 2:13:56

So it's Trump right, yeah. So I mean, you know, we just haven't seen the flip to the other side, Republican and Democrat, because that that's civil war karma. I I believe that and I some of the civil war karma because that at the back of every Republican's mind is that if you're a Democrat, you support slavery, which they support having illegal immigrants here to get paid nothing and get treated like slaves.

SPEAKER_06 2:14:19

So when did it switch? The same way I think FDR switched it. I think uh I think FDR, somewhere on FDR and his wife, you know, they somehow the longest term pro four-term president.

SPEAKER_04 2:14:31

He packed the Supreme Court, right? That that that was the United States Supreme Court said you cannot add any more people. Then they went in, and he's the one who packed the court, changed everything, yep, ran up, right? And then so his uncle Teddy actually was president prior to that.

SPEAKER_06 2:14:49

Teddy Roosevelt. So that that family has driven.

SPEAKER_04 2:14:52

But he was a hardcore Republican who was a war the rough riders, and yes, used to ride his horse in.

SPEAKER_06 2:15:01

Well, I think Franklin was a I think Franklin was a Republican before he ran for president, just like Trump. I think he switched over.

SPEAKER_16 2:15:07

Yeah, he was he was Republican first sentence. Roosevelt was, but he was the Democrat. I mean, initially, right? Yeah, we said, but he was saying he was Republican. I don't I don't know about Roosevelt was a Republican, he became a Democrat.

SPEAKER_04 2:15:18

It's not the same family line, like they have the same last name and they're definitely connected, but they're not like they weren't like uh hanging out.

SPEAKER_06 2:15:27

But I'm pretty sure. So I think it was I do think it was FDR that was a Republican, became a Democrat, and then suddenly the Democrats became known for what was Republican values. I think it was him. I think it was pretty, I think.

SPEAKER_16 2:15:39

I think wasn't the civil rights movement that what made the party shift to lunch.

SPEAKER_04 2:15:45

It was after JFK's death, right? Which we all know, like of course the VP did it. And during the Civil Rights Act, it was the Republicans that passed it in the House and the Senate. Uh right, it Democrats voted no, yeah. And so the Democrat president had to sign that bill, right? Because right, and that's what made then then the rebel flag in the south became so big in the 70s and 80s and all that because that was the fuck you to that's well, that's what yeah, but that's what that's what a lot of them that was a democrat that signed it, but the republicans are the ones that signed it in the house and senate, and the democrats didn't vote, and even the ones in the south tried to block it, and they blocked that vote for months upon months, like it was like almost a year. So it was the Republicans that passed the civil rights movement, yeah.

SPEAKER_16 2:16:49

But then, right, exactly. And then a lot of at the time, a lot of the Democrats left the Democratic Party and chopped over to be Republicans, so that's why things things kind of shifted.

SPEAKER_04 2:16:58

But you never see Republicans leaving the party to join the Democrat side, right? Exactly.

SPEAKER_09 2:17:04

Except Trump. Well, except Trump.

SPEAKER_04 2:17:06

Yeah, except technically Trump is acting more like a Democrat than ever with the way that he does things. We have to learn actually really liberal if you think about it, right?

SPEAKER_10 2:17:18

Like if you think of like the Bushens, they were they're they're all in the same family, right? Like I'm not voting for Chelsea ever.

SPEAKER_04 2:17:28

Well, they all every president is ex except for Van Buren because he's Dutch. Right? Oh, yeah. So I'm in that line. All of them are my family.

SPEAKER_06 2:17:38

I have some Dutch Lammy too.

SPEAKER_04 2:17:40

Well, I'm not talking about that. I'm saying I'm in the all the president's same line with my ancestors on my dad's white boy side. Oh, makes my Mayflower family, right? Direct descendant. So what do you guys think about like they're all my cousins and uncles?

SPEAKER_06 2:17:57

Interesting.

SPEAKER_04 2:17:59

Even Obama is one of my like 17th. Well, Trump is my 13th cousin first removed, yeah.

SPEAKER_09 2:18:07

Wow, that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_10 2:18:10

I was just gonna say uh circling back to David Wilcock, one of the things that him and Q was saying was that that uh when JFK was assassinated, right? That there was an alliance of military people who saw this big plan that was going towards globalization and uh global currency and uh content racing and all that shit.

SPEAKER_04 2:18:35

Israel having a nuclear weapon is why he got assassinated too.

SPEAKER_10 2:18:40

But they said in in all those papers was that uh that Trump was actually back then was primed, and he was buddies with JFK Jr., right? They were buddies, and that he was primed for like decades to to fulfill this role to to take down the globalists and all that stuff.

SPEAKER_06 2:19:02

The deep state, take down the deep state. Yeah, I do believe you know the reason why Q resonated because it resonates. We have our psychic abilities as you know, there's a lot of truth there, there's a lot of truth there, and that's how it is. You they really mess with us because they give us a half-truth, and half truth is very difficult. Half truths are very difficult because if you say half of it's true and just the last part is a lie, we're just not sophisticated as psychics yet to determine.

SPEAKER_16 2:19:26

Now I can determine it, but that's if I constantly say, but that's yeah, I'm saying that's a that's what cult masterminders that they do. They like the feeling they feel the truth, they've got them, and they just wrap it in lies, and that's a cult mentality.

SPEAKER_04 2:19:42

And they try to use a lot of like old Kabbalah stuff, but they're using the wrong language, like there is no Q in Latin. I didn't even know that, right? So, like if you look at the Unicodes of you look up the Latin language, it's not just words, whole entire systems of life are based off these characters, yeah. Right? So, like when you look up like Neptune, right? Like, it's a it's psi psi, and that's where this whole like with the the psychics now, like the psi, yeah, right? That they're all remote viewing and stuff. That's all part of that glyph, and that's all the Unicode that deals with it. So the Q thing is also misleading people in how to do it off the wrong language, right?

unknown 2:20:34

Right.

SPEAKER_04 2:20:34

Then it's even weirder that the British intelligence is Q. And then and then in C and you can look it up, type in like CNN, like uh CIA Q. There's a whole there's always been a CIA Q department.

SPEAKER_06 2:20:50

The Brits have always tried to outsmart the world, that's their always been their war thing. Always they've always tried to outsmart the world, trick the world.

SPEAKER_04 2:20:56

And it's an astrologer who started it, John D, who was agent 007. That that's what his secret code was to Queen Elizabeth. Yep, back in the 1500s.

SPEAKER_06 2:21:06

King's bomb is based on a lot of truth.

SPEAKER_10 2:21:08

Yeah, like I've always been a person who pays attention to the people who are not allowed to talk, like like all virtually anyone who talked about Q on the internet was completely blacklisted during that era off of YouTube, off of everything.

SPEAKER_06 2:21:23

But do you think I was just but if it was all-op, that would be what you do. You would create the intent, you would create that myth that you're gonna you know disappear in the night.

SPEAKER_16 2:21:33

But it doesn't you when you said Morgan, I'm like, yeah, there were a lot, but there was a lot that we're talking about Q that were still on, and like that was always coming up to me. So I'm like, why are these getting banned and shadow banned? But these specific ones are still running rampage and talking about the QC.

SPEAKER_04 2:21:46

They literally did the whole ramp up in 2020 during COVID. Yeah, oh totally, totally, right? Yeah, well, I think it's the same. It's Q Shaman, remember, and now he's a plan.

SPEAKER_06 2:21:57

It was perfect because, well, look, we all can agree that COVID was some sort of planned thing, and uh guarantee. I think the human people the human population was like something's fishy about this, and so if you put in an answer to why it's fishy, you're gonna win that, you're gonna win that vote, you know.

SPEAKER_16 2:22:11

It's a pandemic, but it was yeah, it's a pandemic, but it's also real too. I'm like, no, COVID is real. I had it three times, but it's also pandemic, it was manufactured. It's manufactured, yes. I mean, like Christopher, like when when if you think of like the whole like I can't breathe shit with George Floyd and all these other things that the things I can't breathe and COVID affects the breathing. Like it was very, very parallel with the narratives of I can't breathe and covet affect the breathing, and you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_04 2:22:40

Well, I know I know George Floyd ate all of his fentanyl, right? Yeah, but what was the phrase? That's how he that's how he died. But what I'm saying is then the whole fentanyl death began the spike in 2020, and then yeah, how it's like hundreds of thousands, million a million people died in America over that three years on fentanyl.

SPEAKER_06 2:22:59

That's weird, and that's the other thing, too. That we'll just say it CIA has been known to be the ones bringing the drugs into our country, right? And then they were how did our how does our drug supply get all of a sudden?

SPEAKER_04 2:23:11

The the the 2003 Iraq war all the way into the 2010s to go get all the poppy to make the oxycontin. Yes, yes, then they pulled it from the shelves from people, then they gave them heroin, then they gave them fentanyl, and there was no heroin to be found. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_06 2:23:26

Then they give they give them uh oxycotin, right? They make it a legit, they they take the crop and they make it a legit pain medicine, and the whole country gets addicted to that pain medicine, right?

SPEAKER_04 2:23:36

You know, so it was if you think about it, like the but the bushes, like especially with with Dick Cheney, like that whole operation was insane. What they pulled off for themselves and their buddies and all this the stuff we see now.

SPEAKER_16 2:23:50

But I'm just like to go back. I was thinking the whole narrative is like I can't breathe. I just think they infiltrate things. Right, no, no, it's so I keep saying that was cute.

SPEAKER_06 2:23:58

Oh, yeah, it's such bad Hollywood writing. You're right. It's bad Hollywood writing, it's just so yeah. But is anybody paying attention?

SPEAKER_16 2:24:06

What do I think that in conjunction with COVID? It's like it was all about the breathing shit.

SPEAKER_10 2:24:10

Back then, it was right before they put masks on everybody.

SPEAKER_04 2:24:14

But yeah, but it was also you were it was supposed to be, you were supposed to quarantine, right? Nobody, if you were smart, you didn't. I think they were trying to I think they were trying to hypnotize George Floyd in America, it didn't matter.

SPEAKER_06 2:24:26

It's it was a hypnotiz, it was partly hypnotized to hypnotize us, like to put us in this spell that we believe we're gonna die. Like I said, you had nothing but commercials that you're gonna die of something from drug commercials for years being talked into us, being sick, right?

SPEAKER_16 2:24:40

You know, what better way, Christopher? What better way than to hypnotize us into creating that for ourselves by chanting? I can't read these protests, like just get in people's consciousness, it becomes a mantra, you know.

SPEAKER_06 2:24:51

They know that what people believe becomes reality. And if you can hijack their beliefs, is what religion is. If you hijack release, you can hijack the world. They all believe in the same thing, then they're all gonna be turning into puppets that manifest what you want them to manifest.

SPEAKER_09 2:25:03

That's disgusting, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 2:25:04

Right. So I think what we've seen in Iran is is a puppet, and they haven't all they say is that his son has taken over is the Ayatollah, but that he's in bed and then he's incapacitated. That we're about to see a puppet there again, right? Like, like like that now with this whole Netanyahu thing and all the his AI stuff, like he's a puppet. Trump's a puppet, like it's not a puppet.

SPEAKER_06 2:25:29

I don't see Trump's a puppet. I don't see Netanyahu's. Do you think Netanyahu? I think he has I think he's a very careful man because he's got a he's complicated. I mean he's doing business with the he's doing business with the mob, he's doing business with all the bad people, and I think he's like walking a fine line. But I get the feeling that Netanyahu is Nathan.

SPEAKER_16 2:25:44

I just don't I don't feel like he I agree with you with Netanyahu, but I Trump is definitely a puppet for the Israeli government. I've always felt that.

SPEAKER_06 2:25:51

How who can control Trump? No, we can't no one can. I don't believe he can't control this puppet. This guy's in the you know in the room. He's influenced.

SPEAKER_16 2:26:02

He's influenced. If he's daughter, he might be influenced.

SPEAKER_06 2:26:07

Well, he might be influenced.

SPEAKER_04 2:26:08

I'm saying that with Trump, it's like the whole idea of the Epstein files and the whole like hey, like honeypot thing. He's the he's the poster boy for that. Who is Trump?

SPEAKER_16 2:26:18

Look, the reason why the reason why Christopher, I was saying that about Trump, right? Is because look at all the head there fluffing with all these fake awards, right? Just do all this. We'll put you on make the best president ever. And so that's why I feel like he's heavily influenced and a puppet. Oh, but it's not to keep it peasing with this stupid award. He created this, what is it, America First Award just created for him to make him feel good? Am I worried that or the I'm not putting Trump on a yeah, I'm putting him on a pedestal of being this great leader.

SPEAKER_06 2:26:41

I'm just saying he just seems like he's it's impossible to manage. Like I just don't see it.

SPEAKER_16 2:26:44

But that's how they're mad. My point is that's how they're managing him, they're defeating his ego, so he'd be the bad guy, the front man for all his agenda. Maybe and so he's getting what he wants out of the process. So that's that's why I feel like they're managing him how their influence came with it, you know.

SPEAKER_04 2:26:58

Well, and he's got a lot of cancer in his throat, even though he's a Iranian guy, and his daughter married Jared Kushner. That's right. If you think about the threats to him, it would be his family, right? That's true. If you think about it, it's like you can keep your life and the way that they rigged the election to make sure that he would lose, so his ego would be so pissed, even though he knew he won. It was that was intentional to then get him to have to sign away, like we'll make you president again. You can keep your life down here in Florida and keep your Mar-a-Lago and do what you want to the White House, but you have to do this Iran war, you have to do this, and this is your way in, and you can keep your money with all the banks.

SPEAKER_06 2:27:43

You're right, you're right. Yeah, I don't I don't believe for a minute the war is his stuff. I don't think he had correct, but I'm just saying that he sold out. Yes, I agree. You so David, yeah, exactly. Scott, David just proved it right. He is a puppet there. He is with the war and the military.

SPEAKER_04 2:27:57

I'm telling you, he is, but I'll tell you, Kennedys, they talk about it in their diaries and things, like that you know, the the military disobeyed orders many times that Kennedy had the military thinks it's that I think the the the biggest thing that I think will uncover more than aliens is the secret parts of our government that operate, yes, that is military-based, that is got alien technology, and that does not work for the good. And that's what the deep state really is.

SPEAKER_06 2:28:23

And then Q really brought to light, actually. Q brought that to light. Like, oh, what there's this, what you know, there's this these people that stay all the time and they're gonna decide who has the football, the football briefcase or whatever. That was the whole thing that uh, you know, that that Biden never got the football briefcase or whatever, which is a good thing, right?

SPEAKER_16 2:28:39

You know, um, he would have molested I feel I feel like we're I feel deep state, the deep state, the true deep state, like you're saying is that it's holding on a bike with us. I think I think they're just antagonized saying, like, yeah, come find us out. They want to be, they want us to try to catch them. I feel like it's gotten to that point because I feel teased by them, right?

SPEAKER_15 2:28:55

I feel like they're daily shit. Yeah, I agree with you.

SPEAKER_06 2:28:58

I agree with you. I think and I think their ego wants to a little pop, they're tired of being secret. It's like they put themselves in the movies, they put themselves in these things because they're tired of being secret, they're so tired of being secret, they want to tell everyone they have the power and they can't help, but they're hubris. But to do it, say it.

SPEAKER_04 2:29:10

Yeah, I think the problem with Trump based off his astrology is a Gemini with a north node Gemini in the tenth with Uranus and lunar eclipse and Saj with a South No Sag is truth. And so, what is not true? Uranus and Gemini with Pluto is going to bring out with him.

SPEAKER_06 2:29:31

29 degree. We talked 29 degrees at beginning of the show. He's got 29 degree rising, right? Yeah, and Uranus is squaring it right now. I mean, 29 can go off the edge. We talked about that. 29 can go off the edge, they can go, they can go overboard, and boy, and he's got regulus conjunct as well, and that's the great fall.

SPEAKER_04 2:29:47

Like that, that's always a guaranteed. If you're not on the on the right side of spirituality and doing the the lion's true heart, you will have a great fall.

SPEAKER_06 2:29:57

But my I'm still today I die argue that he is a spiritual actor that played the role for heaven.

SPEAKER_04 2:30:03

That's yeah, that's why he always says central casting.

SPEAKER_06 2:30:06

I think he's just he was like that.

SPEAKER_04 2:30:11

Now the secretary of war, right? Like going back to that, right? With his fucking tattoos of like, let's go be the fucking go back to the holy wars and be fucking on the old quest and shit.

SPEAKER_06 2:30:26

Like, that's but it makes sense that we would close that we close the age of Pisces with the Holy Wars again, right? Like, it seems like you know, we can that's what I think's happening.

SPEAKER_04 2:30:35

Is I I actually think Trump's playing Netanyahu in the end. I do too, actually. I think he's I think he plays because the Christians want that, the Muslims want that. I think the Christians and the Muslims are working together more. Actually, that's what the message from Iran was yesterday was that the Christians and the Muslims need to get out of the Zionist cabal, and all they actually said that in their fucking thing publicly. Yes, but the news won't read it out loud. Yeah, what is news anyway?

SPEAKER_06 2:31:06

Propaganda. We don't have anything. All right, guys. With that said, it's that was a good yeah, that little book.

SPEAKER_04 2:31:11

That was a great show, though.

SPEAKER_06 2:31:12

Next week, folks. Next week, you'll have to buy a ticket to see backstage because we've got everything setting up. We'll talk about it back.

SPEAKER_04 2:31:18

Hey, ours will be in Airy, so it'll happen. Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 2:31:24

I want to say that we've had a solid over 400 people staying through the this entire after show. So thanks.

SPEAKER_06 2:31:32

400 bugs watching us. 400 AI AB taking down the phone.

SPEAKER_10 2:31:38

We'll call them independent thinkers. I like it.

SPEAKER_06 2:31:42

Oh, interesting. Independent thinkers.

SPEAKER_10 2:31:43

IT I I think that it would be good you guys uh in the backstage to have a little bit of engagement with all these people who are just oh yeah, yeah, flooding the comments constantly.

SPEAKER_06 2:31:56

It's uh let me tell you guys we're built in environment for it. So if you get a backstage pass, you'll have actually a community that's behind the firewall, you have an identity, and actually you know, you have places where you can chat, different topics, people can give their opinions. It's not gonna just be backstage as far as watch a show and go. It's hey, we're all people that are thinking like this. And if you want to hang around and talk about it, do hopefully people will meet each other that believe in the same things. I mean, I think the future is gonna be private communities, and this will be one of them, the lol.

SPEAKER_16 2:32:23

Nice little button on that. Nice little stamp of that there. I agree. Yeah, okay, thank you. All right, you guys, all right, good night, everybody.

SPEAKER_13 2:32:32

Thank you for staying on audio.

SPEAKER_10 2:32:34

Keep it real. See you next week. Yeah, we'll see you next week. Peace out.

SPEAKER_06 2:32:40

That was excellent.