LOL - Ep 96 - Unshakeable: Leading in Uncertain Times

A LIVE Spiritual Talkshow that unites spiritual superpowers for weekly psychic investigations and predictions.

Airing Wednesdays at 6pm PST / 8pm CST / 9pm EST. 
Airing Saturdays at 8pm PST / 10pm CST / 11pm EST. 

Motley Mystical Crew:
⭐️ Christopher Witecki  @SiriusJoyTV | https://siriusjoy.com/
⭐️ Scott Cruz  @ScottCruz | https://scottcruzpm.com/
⭐️ David Palmer @theleokingdom | https://www.theleoking.com/

Directed by Morgan Obendorfer
Produced by Erica El Hilali

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:05

It's finally tourists, and we all need some grounding earth energy. We're exploring leading stories from stability in uncertain times tonight on Leaning Out Loud. Welcome to Leading In At Loud, the spiritual shift show that's pioneering and playful. I'm Steph Astrologer and channel Chris Asense Chris Wattechi.

SPEAKER_08 0:54

And I'm David Palmer, the Leo King.

SPEAKER_03 0:57

And I'm Scott Cruz, psychic medium and mentor at Scott Cruz PM.com. Rough week, guys.

SPEAKER_08 1:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:03

I don't know.

SPEAKER_08 1:04

It's been it's been uh it's been a I mean we say a roller coaster, but I would say it's like more like the like the tower of terror, or just like uh an elevator that goes up and then up down.

SPEAKER_02 1:16

It's a lot of the new moon was like a full moon to me at the end of Aries, and here we are in Taurus. I'm home in Taurus, but I'm not feeling at home just yet. So uh it's it's not stable yet. It's stubborn.

SPEAKER_03 1:30

Yeah, I I I kind of agree with the tower terror analogy, but I also feel it's kind of like Jenka, just like stacking one on top of the other, but like, oh, if I do any more, I'm gonna crumble. I feel that type of energy energy.

SPEAKER_02 1:41

It is intense Aries. I mean, I feel um I feel like I came out of Aries knowing myself better than I've ever known myself, but feeling like I was in the wrong world or movie. So I feel like I get me, but I don't get the world. Like uh, but I don't know, we'll it's sometime, yeah. I mean, we're in step two Taurus, which is the most moody Taurus thing there is. Nothing like a cow that just goes around moving all the time. That's how I feel right now. But I think we'll feel a little better with the next 24 hours. But it's uh we'll see. It's gonna be, I think, a stable Taurus season. Uh, what do you think, David? Because Hyranis is leaving.

SPEAKER_08 2:10

Yeah, I mean, I think we're we're in such big shifts that we're actually feeling the shifts like in the middle to starting to really go somewhere. So that's why the energy feels so different because we are moving into different not just like energy as we speak, but actual like shifting into new places. I think this Taurus season will feel more stable with Uranus out of Taurus. But I I do think the square to Pluto that's approaching uh it it is that that life and death moment that we're all going through, that extreme transformation, and it's hitting wherever we might feel uh that we're used to feeling stable is is changing. And so we're having to be uh adaptable, and that's not easy with a lot of fixed energy mixed with a lot of Aries cardinal. Like it's like move and get used to the new and start to value the new, you know.

SPEAKER_03 3:10

Yeah, and I I mean I agree because I kind of agree with Christopher saying that you know, wake up in an in another different movie than his movie was the 40-year-old virgin, realizing I've been so deprived. And I feel that too with a lot of people, they will wake up like that, say, I've been depriving myself for a long time. What was the last time I got what I needed, right? So I think Taurus is gonna kind of solidify those feelings because, like you said in Aerie Season, Christopher, I agree, it has been kind of like this identity shift. I did act literally a show about that, preparing people for that identity shift. But it's more so about the realization like who am I really? And what have I been deprived of this whole time? I've been just like doing for others and kind of trekking along and not letting people see the real me because I've been afraid of being offending people for being real me or people judge me for being the real me. So a lot of that has been coming out, and that's when we start expressing that, we realize holy shit, I've been deprived myself of so much freedom, right? And pleasure just because the sake of making other people happy or for the sake of not being judged or so forth. So I find a lot of people are like not caring about that, and I know we're the three of us, but I'm almost done. Is that I feel like people need to be speaking up now more than ever too and correcting bad behavior. I think a lot of people are starting to like get fresh very frustrated and fed up of just allowing people just to get away with their businesses. And so I think more people are standing up to you and holding people accountable for bad actions and bad behavior. I think encourage people to do that to speak up.

SPEAKER_02 4:28

I'm glad you said something, Scott, because uh no, I'm kidding. Uh no, you literated exactly how I feel. I actually felt at the end of Aries that I have never been or allowed myself just to be who I am, and it's automatic pilot. I didn't even, you know, I've got uh Pluto and Libra, so I really don't know where the line is in my third house. So for those who understand, I don't really know how much to say and how much not to say. And that became really clear. Uh so yeah, I came to that conclusion, and then I realized, yeah, well, I haven't been having much fun. So that's kind of how I wrapped it up. And now I'm in Taurus and I'm hoping for, you know, basically, I think this year in Taurus, we are set up to kind of get what we want, honestly. With your roster where it happens to be, you just gotta be really strong in your heart and hold space for it, I think, for it to happen and to appear. So kind of create the magic bubble like you're blowing a bubble, you know, bubble gum, and just hold the bubble and just wait until something shows up. That's I think what you have to do, at least the first 10 days of Taurus. Because you set up your self-worth in the first 10 days of Taurus. And so it's time for everyone to give themselves a raise when it comes to self-worth. You to worth you know, to be worthy, more worthy to yourself.

SPEAKER_08 5:27

Yeah, and like I think it's the tools that we have within that are are being put into roles we've never been put in before. I know we like to all call ourselves adults here, or in astrology terms, like we've all been through our Saturn return, you know, but it's like the universe still does put us in new roles and use our tools in new ways. And I think it feels more extreme because this feels like the roles we never thought we'd be in before, and have to really use tools in our own spiritual tool kits that we've had, but never really got to use for these places we all are ending up in in our journeys right now. So it feels more extreme that way.

SPEAKER_03 6:08

Yeah, and like the awakening is like we don't have a linear personality and a linear, linear you know, image of our we have so much different at layers of our image that we have if we're connected to all that is, right? So we have all those different points of view, and I think allowing ourselves to be broad in our perspective like that, and having more of a objective perspective, at least trying to in the world, we know ourselves more actually. Um, so a lot of people always like you know, don't focus on the external world like you don't want to be hyper-focused on the external world, but it's also reflections of where you're standing and and where you need to be. And so I think that we should pay attention to that, you know, a lot more. Because I feel like we can, when we learn through other perspectives of people, we understand we have that perspective within ourselves, and that just you know increases our knowledge and wisdom and perspective on life. And I and I'm saying to concur with you, David, in that sense of we having all those tools is and that's what this tour season really is about, is solidifying a lot of that, you know.

SPEAKER_02 7:01

Well, we have until um Friday, Venus will go into Gemini, and that's gonna shift things a bit, and then Saturday, Uranus will enter into Gemini also, and that's gonna shift things a bit. So I feel like we got about three more days of of kind of like quiet groundedness, and then once all that stuff shifts to Gemini, I think some sort of race is off. And it's a race of ideas and and concepts, and I think that's what I want to tell people is like your mind will be racing, but your body will be right here, right now. And that's I think the really the lesson for eight years. I mean, but once your honest is Gemini, it's just I think it's just all kinds of ideas going in all kinds of places, and the only one you know is true is the one your heart gravitates towards, otherwise, everything else is non-applicable.

SPEAKER_08 7:45

You know what's interesting is last year when Uranus ingressed into Gemini was the exact same Venus position and play, so we're in a really weird repeat of last year, but I would say with Uranus, it's like the exact opposite place you were last year, yeah. Like, so it's like that that's what's weird. So Venus cut is gonna come into Gemini first, it's gonna conjunct Uranus tonight and tomorrow, yeah. And by Friday being Gemini at two degrees when Uranus is coming in to Gemini, just like it did last year. So to me, it's like this very rare anomaly, but it's got the Iranian element, so it's like, ah, so last year you thought you had it all figured out. Oh, now let's see where you are now. Figure it out from this place, which is the complete opposite of what you ever believed in your mind you would be.

SPEAKER_03 8:38

That's kind of the irony of it all, and that like opens your channel, right? To like opportunities, inspiration, idea. And I want to encourage people when that starts happening to you, those who've been very inspired, you get all these opportunities, ideas, they don't have to be done all at once either. A lot of times we channel shit for like two years, three years down the road. So you know what I'm saying? They don't have to do that's the next chapter. And so I think if we're you know clever enough and wise enough to spread out these inspirations and downloads, we can have a better idea of our path moving forward. Because I've gotten stuff from like you know, 10 years ago that I, you know, I should I'm doing now, and it just took 10 years to get there, you know. So um, I think a lot of people struggle with that some reason. I have I can do it all now. It's like I have the same idea.

SPEAKER_02 9:19

Actually, I you know, serious joy is gone. I'm now senseichris.com, and that was 10 years ago they went off on the serious joy tangent. So I'm literally where it was 10 years ago, starting a new label. Um, but it's it's fascinating. You're right. It took it took 10 years and uh and AI actually to be invented for me to do what I wanted. So it's funny how things are. You'd be surprised. You think you know, always take life as as the real take, but you'll find out that it's actually just a um it was just a it was just a side take, it was just a trial because the real time it seems to always be a little hidden from me. You know, I don't know how to put it. It's a test trial.

SPEAKER_03 9:53

I thought it was real, it was actually a test or learning curve, right? So learning curve. A lot of shit we go through is a learning curve until we get that big thing that we say we want, right? So I always see it like little micro steps, little micro chapters that's leading to a bigger actually that that bigger never stops, actually, right? That's a continuous cycle of growth, so it never stops. That's the infinite loop of creation. But I think more I want more people to tap into that too, because like they get downloads, it's like a zip file, unpack it, spread it out, you know. Many people are struggling with that too when they get inspiration. A lot of spiritual people, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 10:25

I mean, it's been uh very interesting for me. I never it was never my bingo card I would be a single father of two young kids. I know, and so for me, these last couple weeks, and it's like really all done now. Is I'm divorced now and I'm a single dad with two kids, and learning how to be that in this moment, and so whether that's how I am with my children and how I am as a single father, but also with my career and making the adjustments at home and at work, it's it's definitely something I never dreamed I'd ever be. But embracing it and finding the good in it, and having known that I, you know, whatever the universe shows at me is for some glorious and beautiful reason, and and finding that even when it does feel like, can I do this? And it really, I think, isn't a question if I can. It's like, no, let me just do it. And yeah, I find it a lot easier the more that you accept it and show up for it and and stop doubting yourself so much.

SPEAKER_03 11:30

And that let me tell you something. That's why you are actually or inspiring people, even through the divorce. And a lot of people think if as spiritual teachers and leaders, I'm going through a tough time, and you know, they they feel almost like a hypocrite. It's like, no, like you're telling people, showing people this happens, and this is how you go through a divorce. So you're helping a lot of people understand the positive ways of going through divorce and what it's like on the other side of that. Maybe people on the verge of divorce, it's part of their chapter that's coming to close. You're still assisting during the process, you know. And so a lot of people tend to judge, oh, they're getting divorced, you know, they're they're hypocritical spirituality. I was like, no, they're going through life, they're showing what life is about. So I think you've been still leading through your process and showing up still, you know. Thanks.

SPEAKER_08 12:07

I'm doing the best that I can. I mean, it's it's not a I'm at that end part where the you know it's okay, it's the new life for me and and the relationship with my kids in our journey, right? So it's yeah, I'm I'm I'm happy it's been through, right? And so it's now it's like, well, what's next? And I'm not really thinking too far down the road. I'm just saying, let me just take it a day by day and enjoy these moments I'm having with my kids and making the adjustments as I go. And and now I think that I think that's the best way. I for me to try and project where I'll be at in two years is just doesn't matter, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 12:46

You want to you don't want to miss out on your girls' lives, right? The year of their lives, so you're doing the right thing and you're you're being very honorable about it, too. So you know, just from brother to brother.

SPEAKER_02 12:55

As a student manifestation, I have to say it's like the things that the way things turn out are always what I did not think would turn out. You know, like it's the thing I put the least thought into, you know. Uh I didn't, it's not that I willed against it, I just never even bothered to will against it because I just was not an option. And then I'm always surprised that that indeed is what happens in like divorce. I too did not expect to be divorced, you know. Because I, you know, I spent my whole life trying to fix my childhood, which was an end of divorce, so I understand completely. Um, it just unfolds that way. You almost have to look at what you're not looking at if you want to see where your life is going, because it's like we have some selective amnesia, I think, or I don't know, we turn a blind eye to the way it out that comes out because it's always you know not what you expected, but not surprising either.

SPEAKER_03 13:34

Yeah, but you know, because I think we know, right? I do think that we actually do know deep down to side, we just don't like to admit it, right? Um, like for example, for for many years, period, it's like go on YouTube, go to YouTube. I'm like, no, I don't want to do that shit. I don't want to be on YouTube. Like, I just so resistant to doing that. And then it came around where I'm like, okay, like my business took a halt, and I'm just like, I'm I'm I'm getting what you're saying. And I went on YouTube and things exploded again, right? So I was denying it, I knew it, right? Never would have thought about that, but you know, there's a lot of things in our lives that we just we we hear it subtly, but just we just reject it because we want to hear it. So I found a lot with my clients too. I'm like, but you've you felt this before, like, why are you dismissing that? We gotta tap into that intuition.

SPEAKER_08 14:12

But that's so hard when you're a reader because it's it's so easy for us to do that and see that in other people, but when it comes to ourselves, I think you hit right at that beginning, like we don't want to admit it within ourselves, and it's ironic because we're readers and we can call it out on anyone in a millisecond and be there and just totally help them see. But when it comes to ourselves, it's like you know, I think it's hard to be that why is it? Why is that?

SPEAKER_03 14:40

It's it's because we know what we actually if we interpret it better, saying, like, this is like we're reading my story, right? Then we'll understand. No, I even though I don't want to be here, I have to go through it anyways. Even going through the resisting of that, we have to go through. So it's kind of like we're watching the story before it happens as it's happening, so we're kind of rejecting the time frame of things. A lot of us readers do that, you know. We'll know it's later, we'll know it's later, but we're picking up on the now, so we beat ourselves up. Instead, you had to say go to that challenge, go to that tough period. Does that make sense to you?

SPEAKER_08 15:07

Yeah, and I think we're all very as you know, readers, our live purpose is to help others and to to be there for others and also be in our own conscious awareness journey and travel. So sometimes we hold on to that. Let's keep seeing if the light makes some changes here, more awareness comes in. And and so I think you're right though, that timeline part of it gets it could be very complex. That's a whole blurred, yeah. It's a whole entire episode just on that.

SPEAKER_02 15:38

Yeah, you know. I eventually I know that for one thing about being here on Earth is that we we we decided to go through the experience of it. That doesn't mean we were gonna like it. You know, I always make a joke about how I'm like, this wasn't on the fucking brochure, man. I know this was not on the brochure, but I know I set up there, like, don't tell me the bad stuff. I just want to go down there. You know, I feel like sometimes sometimes we have to go through it. And when you go through it, even though your mind does not want to and you're resisting, I still always learn something I would have never learned had I not gone through it. So I see the value of it. I just you know think it's one of those times you just gotta hold your nose and and get through it, um, which is what this entire life has been.

SPEAKER_08 16:14

Yeah, there was no AA meds on when I came down here. Like, geez, there still isn't.

SPEAKER_03 16:20

I'm still pissed about that. 20 minutes of sobriety. Come on, we gotta get that in development, guys. Come on, production. Let's get it going. That's a brilliant idea. 20 minutes of sobriety, Christopher. What do you think about that?

SPEAKER_02 16:31

I think I was like 40. I mean, it sounds wonderful. Let's up the let's up the grade. Yeah, let's do it. I'm down. I think a lot of people are down. So the liquor companies. It's a lot of sales that can just keep repeating. Right. Yeah, it's awesome.

SPEAKER_03 16:42

But you know, but but we're saying, I just want to say before we move to the headlines is that you know, a lot of people question like prediction, like when they go to get a reading done. I said, not every step we take is written in the stars. We still have an outline destiny and a purpose in our physical life, but you know, sometimes there's different options of how we do it too. And so when I'm reading the future, people, I'm saying, okay, this is how it's rendering, you can shift this here, you can't shift this here. Here's a comic lesson that's stuck. So there's so many different variables. I think people get so wrapped up that everything is predictable, everything's set in stone, it's not. That's why it's good to go to readers to see what is rendering unconsciously or unfavorable. Um, and we do also put things set in our trajectory too. And so um, well, I might say I want to learn self-love, but how I go about learning self-love might have different variables, you know, but based on our choice and preferences. So, and then people think nothing's predictable. People think that, oh, it just manifests everything that nothing's and that's not true either. So, when we understand the parameters that we set for ourselves prior to incarnating and you know, being tuned to that, then we like we were saying before, know the whole story. So I want to like interject that about predictions. A lot of people question, well, then what's predictable? If I didn't predict divorce, and it's like, well, that divorce could have been predictable or not. Maybe you're choosing a different path now. We do have free will, especially when you're changing your destiny.

SPEAKER_02 17:47

When I see a psychic like you or someone who has visionary in the future, I'm going to see what's currently manifesting. And I've actually been to a couple psychics that would say, uh, this is happening. I'm like, like hell it is. And inside, and they're saying, and they're saying, Oh, I think it's changed, it's changed just now, it just changed. I'm like, hell yeah, dude. You once you realize it's it's unfolding, you can pull back and say no, you know, most of the time. Uh, I find so I the good news of a psychic is to see what timelines are in play, but you always have choices, right?

unknown 18:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 18:17

Although I will I will be the I will say because I do agree with you though, but I think there's that other side too, where sometimes the psychic, the reader, the astrologer, it like you don't you just can't see it yet, and then it's like a year down the road, and you're like, oh man, that was actually really happening, and yeah, and that I think that happens a lot too. I think it's both. Yeah, and I and I think that's where it's like, you know, it's like sometimes a reader will see so high on the vibrational level that you're sometimes not willing to even know it yet, but you're you're you're dealing with the situation, and that's taking away some of your vibrational energy to connect to that same level, and then finally, once you start going through your stuff and you get back to that level, then you're able to connect with what they telephoned you, you know what I mean? Like, oh, there it is, you know.

SPEAKER_03 19:10

That's the way it takes a really good seasoned reader, you know, because I would always question those things too. It's like they're not gonna be the same wavelength. So I had to have to like go to the future and go back into what's going on now to make sense of it and then go back. Like it's like tweaking, it's like a mechanical thing you're doing with the people's brains. And so I had to find a way because I questioned that. Like, they're not gonna see what I'm seeing. And of course, I get damned, I give a reading, predict all these things, and then they damn me for that year later it happens, right? And so I had to say that's not helpful, right? And I'm sure you get that all the time too. It's not helpful. So, how can it be more of a system where they're aware of their future, but I'm connecting it with their now, you know? And I think people who are getting to going to readers need to understand a seasoned reader would do that. I guess that's kind of propping me up on a pedestal a little bit, but I speaking up.

SPEAKER_02 19:49

You know what? I always tell my clients, re listen to the recording when you buy it and get it, because you're gonna find there are things you did never heard. You never heard me say, you never heard me say that in the whole reading, and it'll shock you that you did not hear it, and you'll realize that your mind completely blocked out until you get that recording. And a lot I get so many times people coming back up to three years later and saying, Oh, I just got letter recently. They're like, I thought you were full of shit, it was a bad reading, blah, blah, blah. And they're like, I just listened to the recording, and oh my god, everything you said, everything happened. Well, you know, I just honestly don't have a choice. I just give you what I see. So it is I'm not even really crazy in the reading. Someone up above is either myself or your guides. I'm just being a good communicator and saying what I see, but it's it's funny how that works.

SPEAKER_08 20:28

I think it's funny because I was just at uh the new living expo up in Morin County this last weekend, and I had a couple guys come up to me like, I actually saw you from videos that my girlfriend years ago would watch this guy do a horoscope every morning. And I've heard this about Chris and I forever, right? Because people have watched our horoscopes for over decades, and it's like either the guy is upset, most of the guys are upset. So Chris and I have dealt with like emails like my girlfriend, my wife just watches non-stop horoscopes about you, and that's all they talk about, and it upsets them, or then you get the guys who are like, damn, I listened, she bailed on the whole entire spiritual thing, and I stayed. Thanks for waking me up, you know. So it's like weird how readings and spirituality like can come into people's lives and how it how it works out. Because I know Chris gets the same stories, like you know, always the girlfriend, and you know what?

SPEAKER_02 21:26

I'll be there and give a reading, and he'll be like, Hi, I'm Tom. I don't believe any of this bullshit, but thanks for taking my grand my girlfriend. And then five years later, it's like, hey dude, you got can I get a reading? You know, because it overwhelming realms. It's usually a woman that introduces to a man who doubts, and and so thank gosh for the women in that sense, you know.

SPEAKER_03 21:41

Yeah, I do I have families, I have little towns I've read the whole town of. So you know I never think where if they come there. I've never done something like this before. I decided to give it a try. Like, give me a try. That sounds very demeaning, you know. But yeah, it's funny when you get people who are you know sharing like that.

SPEAKER_08 21:56

Yeah, it's like you're doing the postman of the town and the link.

SPEAKER_02 22:06

Do you get stuff up that you the your higher self says do not tell the client this? But yeah. Yeah.

unknown 22:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 22:17

Like because it's there's so many different variables I get with that too. Like, you know, I'll know and I'll just I just say like that's uncarved out, it's not defined right now. And um yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:26

Yeah, I get that too.

SPEAKER_08 22:27

Or it's just like putting it in a way that they're at, like you said, Scott, yeah, where they're at. Like, because the you know what to hit them that hard right now, no, but how do I subtly get it to where yeah?

SPEAKER_02 22:40

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, plant a C, let them come to it on their own. Is usually one of the things that you're gonna do.

SPEAKER_03 22:44

We have to be an architect in a reading too, and a lot of readers don't don't do it, don't do that. It's there's an art for reading as well, not just like I see things, you know. So speaking of we have some commercials to run before we get into the top of the headlines.

SPEAKER_02 22:55

All right, and then the headlines.

SPEAKER_10 22:56

Something is wrong with the world. You can feel it in the static, in the signals, in the fractures no one else wants to see. I thought I was chasing a secret, a hidden code, a machine buried beneath the noise. But the deeper I went, the more reality began to tear. The city opened, the mask came off, and beyond the chaos, there was no ending and what comes next. Now the old world is collapsing in plain sight. The new one is already calling, and once you cross that line, once you see what waits on the other side, you do not retire.

SPEAKER_14 23:58

I see it. The gate is open. No, tell them I'm not coming back. I'm finishing this right now.

SPEAKER_10 24:07

The signal has changed, the future is opening, and this is only the beginning.

SPEAKER_11 24:14

It's the spirit dial, it bridges the fracture.

SPEAKER_14 24:18

How long has it been here?

SPEAKER_11 24:21

Waiting for you to answer.

SPEAKER_10 24:25

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SPEAKER_00 25:12

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SPEAKER_10 26:04

Something is wrong with the world. You can feel it in the static. Something is wrong with the world. You can feel it in the static, in the signals, in the fracture.

SPEAKER_02 26:16

I think we're calling on.

SPEAKER_03 26:19

Deja vu, it's a groundhog day.

SPEAKER_02 26:21

That's my birthday, too. We're gonna call in that fracture. That's what happened. Um, great, excellent. I think we have some headlines. I'm not sure what century they're from, but let's go for it.

SPEAKER_03 26:31

Oh, yeah, that's where I'm supposed to read them. First, you will first we have the FBI is is leading a broad investigation into the deaths and disappearance of at least 11 scientists and researchers with ties to classified aerospace, nuclear, and advanced propulsion program since 2022. The cases have drawn scrutiny from the House Oversight Committee over potential national scrutiny threats, Christopher.

SPEAKER_02 26:54

I think first of all, China knows everything, anyways. There's no national security. I don't think there's any real secrets anymore, first of all. So I don't think we have to make it public, but give me a break. Um also, if you know, you're at this point. If you say to me and you're in Congress and you say to me we should be careful of national secrets, I want them investigated first. You know, it's like I'm at a point where I'm tired of people being missing. This is an old story since the 50s, right? You know, this this deep state of uh deep state of technology and UFO ology, this isn't we all know this is true. We've all seen R51. So let's rip it open and see what's in there. It's time to.

SPEAKER_05 27:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 27:28

I think uh especially these scientists all come from anti-gravity propulsion research. A lot of it though is also connected to time and time travel. When you're connecting the dots from the Epstein files and all the scientists that were all paid to do some really weird work, now these are all scientists connected at different universities with huge grants and very sensitive information. And now we're you know, it was supposed to be released, all of the disclosure stuff on April 14th, and that just passed, and they didn't bring everything out. But this has been building up since 2022, and then even in these last couple months, just like out of nowhere, it was just like this scientist is missing, this scientist is missing, this one's missing, and they're all some of them. One of them was a was an Air Force commander, and he the 911 call from his wife is like he left everything here, he came here, he was in it, and then he just I don't know, he's on foot, maybe he's just like and he's never done this in his life. He's you know, he's been in the Air Force commander for 50 years, like doing all it, and he's just now he's gone. So it's kind of intense because these people are all part of the very sensitive stuff. Because I think what's been coming out the most with the Epstein files, because there was a lot about science and technology, then you're getting the disclosure element, and now we're getting this stuff is like CERN things, it's definitely about time and space, weird ways that other you know.

SPEAKER_03 29:05

Well, I that's yes, I agree. It's could be oh there he went, just like the kernel.

SPEAKER_08 29:13

He just entered into that board going right in.

SPEAKER_03 29:17

But like I was saying, like I think that a lot of it has to do with are they disappearing because they are time traveling? That's what I was gonna ask. That was my joke, yeah. Right, are they disappearing because they're being outed, or are they disappearing because they're going into hiding? You know, so um these are things I'm thinking about too, because the timing about all this is very sus, like you said, you know, with the focus on Epstein files. And even Tim Cook resigned. Do you hear that? From I think all that.

SPEAKER_02 29:39

Well, that just happened. Wow, he did, huh? Wow, yeah. I mean, I sell your apple share. I mean, they made it subtle. Sell your apple, sell your apple right now.

SPEAKER_03 29:49

Um I mean, I mean, something something's coming, obviously. You know, so so that I think it'd be multi-late. A lot of these people could be time traveling, getting sucked in, you know, sent to CERN, opening up that portal uh back in 2020, you know. Um, and so I think there's a lot of different variables to that. But the guy just like left his wallet and stuff behind. I mean, that's kind of that's odd.

SPEAKER_02 30:08

And his phone and his phone of it. That sounds like I don't know. Time travel surprises me. Like, we're really spending that much money on time travel with our government. It's like, what are you gonna do? Go back to 1950, or what where will you go in the future, obviously? But every time we hear a future story, it's all negative and dark. Um so from my understanding, there's many timelines. So, what timeline do you arrive at? But like the Philadelphia experiment, you remember that ship disappeared and came back um with people like embedded into the into the steel. Have you heard that story? I mean, that's allegedly true. Um, where they try to put you know this huge ship into micro, you know, electromagnetic waves, and and you know, the ship reports being in sea when they like they ended up like in sea in the Atlantic, and then they came back. And uh they report being gone for a long time, but witnesses say they're gone for a moment. But when they came back, their their bodies like some bodies are infused in the whole of the ship. It's like really gross. There's a movie that came out about it too. So that sounds like we've been farting around with this for a while. Oh totally. Go back and win what you know, what do we do?

SPEAKER_03 31:06

Seriously, that's that also makes me think about the Bermuda Triangle, too. Like that whole thing about people going kind of like getting lost or disappearing. It's like, is that a vortex? Is that maybe a portal for you know? So I mean, I always questioned that. I don't know too much about the Bermuda Triangle so much, but just the idea of that, though.

SPEAKER_02 31:24

You know, I always feel it's the it's where Atlantis' technology landed. I feel like Atlantis technology is still on, still running, it's at the bottom of the sea, right there in that Premier Triangle. That's what I've always felt.

SPEAKER_08 31:34

Well, I also think it's interesting because this week, as well, a whistleblower came out that worked for open AI with Sam Altman and saying that the whole Stargate project, that$500 billion project, like that he's been using AI and all these data centers to summon portals for aliens, right? And it's all over the place now. And it's a former open AI employee that's blowing the whistle about building portals and summoning aliens using AI.

SPEAKER_02 32:07

That doesn't surprise me, actually, because the story of Earth is that after the Earth was flooded by the angels and a specific race that hurled a comet into the ocean, it was to allegedly exterminate the reptilians that then went underground. And apparently at that point, we closed their portals down and did not allow them to go intergalactic. So they've been stuck underground allegedly forever. So perhaps they are trying to open those portals up. I don't know.

SPEAKER_08 32:29

Well, when if you were one of those scientists and actually that was going on, maybe maybe it's like they're they it like they they're not allowed to tell their families, not and they're just like, We're out of here, we gotta go and do this work. Now, one of them, the first one, she did unalive herself, right? Even though she said she didn't then and wouldn't, and she was the one that started this whole thing, so the first one didn't make it through. So that's what I think makes it kind of a very interesting story because the relationship between the same field, the first person did unalive themselves, but now we're at this place to where now you're getting, yeah, Tim Cook resigns. Oh, Sam Altman summoning portals to bring aliens through. I mean, I think they're not being like taken out, they're being taken somewhere for some crazy stuff.

SPEAKER_03 33:21

That's the thing, right? Doesn't say they're getting into whatever they're you know they've been working on too, and so and there's some different reads and going to hiding, you know. So there's a lot of different layers to it.

SPEAKER_02 33:30

Cool if we watch Close Encounters of Third Kind and we find that those people missing come off the ship in the movie now, some crazy shit like that. That'd be cool.

SPEAKER_08 33:39

I really want to go get mashed potatoes and make a mountain right now. I just love this idea. I gotta go, guys.

SPEAKER_02 33:45

Feeling the poll of Utah, film the poll of Utah. All right.

SPEAKER_03 33:47

Well, Trump dot drops the bombshell order, psychedelics fast tracked for mental health. The executive order explicitly highlights i uh ibogine abogon compounds and directs faster FDA reviews for psychedelics, including Psyo Syben and M DNA. So MDNA. Um, I don't know. I don't know. I am I'm happy this is in people's consciousness, but I don't want the government having control now of the psychedelic aspect. I don't want them having any sort of regulations or control over it.

SPEAKER_02 34:14

They have that control the whole time, though they've been keep preventing it. I don't know. I've never met a person who well, there you can have a bad trip or whatever, but if you're gonna trip, you're doing it in front of a professional, um, you know, I don't think that's a bad idea. Because like when they let they let okay, like uh ketamine, right? Like in in Colorado, you could do ketamine like increments, and people come back who had like who had gone to you know, uh who gone to the Middle East and had all sorts of short shock, short sh, you know, shell PTSD, whatever you call now, came back, did like six uh sessions of it, and they were fine, they rebooted. Some of these medicines that God gave us and made for us, I don't think ketamine is one of them, but um mushrooms are for sure. Really, they do remap your neuron matrix, and you can come out different. I know I did.

SPEAKER_03 34:54

Yeah, but the yeah, the point I'm saying is if now the government's getting involved in the regulation of such how do we know we're getting such pure substances anymore moving forward? Is what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_02 35:02

You'll be all hippy to tell you, oh, it's in the shit, I'll tell you spinner.

SPEAKER_08 35:06

Well, especially if they go generic, right? Generic MDA M DMA. I mean, so back when MDMA came out in the 80s, actually it was the pharmaceutical companies making it for testing, and that was the the the bomb stuff to get, and then the bomb stuff to get on the open market was from the Netherlands, right? If you right and uh you know, so actually you kind of do want pharmaceutical grade MDMA, but psilocybin, of course, like that's there's of course different forms of that. There's of course like the raw from an actual like fungus mushroom that is traditional, or there's mescaline, which can be done and synthesized, but then the the ibogaine I think is important the most, especially for um people who use opioids, because I have a buddy who did use it and was very hooked on heroin, oxies, all of it, and it worked. Whereas I have friends who have passed away from that, um, from that horrible addiction, and it it tears families apart. Yeah, and the only way you can get ibogaine is going like down to parts of Mexico and South America right now, um, to get in. And it is kind of like a ceremony, like it is not just like a one like pill thing that you take for an hour, it's like a trip, but you're you're it's not extremely psychedelic for ibogaine, but there is still some of that to that. But I do think it's the right door to open, and I do think it is part of this new world. I think we need to look at the positive things. I think it is it's better than the the other crap they're putting out there for sure.

SPEAKER_02 36:45

I agree, I agree. I wish everyone would try it once, honestly, because I feel like once you realize how unreal life is, you know, it puts everything in a whole new perspective, you know. And I, you know, you only need once, really, I would say need or that perspective once. But I do know that it has helped people who get lost in neuromapping in their mind. Um, and I'd rather have us try that than be on an antidepressant, for instance. I think those are probably more poison in my case.

SPEAKER_08 37:10

I'm just upset because they also didn't add MDA, because actually MDA is really good, but I'm sure they did get maybe that's part of the MDMA. But yeah, I I think that honestly, I mean, in therapy, that's what it was originally for, and it helps in therapy for relationships the most, it's the most heart-opening substance you can find. Yeah, they used to use that back in the day. It was called the love drug, that was like what it came out as, and then therapy back in the day. Honestly, I think the world needs that more than ever. Get somebody made an AI of Trump on E, like raving. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 37:48

You know, like that give Trump some MDMA right now. It's surprising that he did it as a conservative. I mean, this is the most anti-conservative thing he's ever done, I would say, as far as the agenda of that right. So, you know, I think you cannot classify this president under any term, really.

SPEAKER_03 38:07

He's under but my concern is I was saying before, if we're starting here, like does that then they start taking away with shrooms and they start going to other aspects of the natural psychedelics to where they start regulating that and having control over that. And so that's kind of my concern about the government tapping into this field, you know, in the long term and that the the the vast nature of psychedelics on the natural front, you know.

SPEAKER_08 38:28

I will say though, if you were to try and find MDMA now, you're not getting that. Most of the time you test it, it's a Chinese knockoff stimulant, and then people think they're rolling balls when really they're tripping out on some Chinese knockoff, really bad. It's not even, and there's no love in it, you know. And people are like, I got Molly, and it's like, no, you don't. I always have a Tesco. Like, no, you don't. You got Colgate, it's yellow, it's all right, it's not dark purple, sorry, black, it's not that, sorry, you got the yellow, it's the and I'll tell them the what it is, and they're like, What? The guy who took sold me this, and that's the problem is that in the early 2000s when uh raving was at its peak, and actually it was Joe Biden who created the RAVE Act, right? That really was gonna get the promoter and put him in jail, right? If you saw a gas mask, that's why gas masks raised, they said no more because that was like their way to entry. But what happened was people started making fake pills, and and that's what happened with oxies, and then that's what's happened with all these fentanyl deaths. Yeah, maybe the streets find people on the black market making the real crap is neck near impossible, and Silk Road was the only way to do that. I used to have to get that stuff from the Netherlands shipped crazy, like you know, back in the day.

SPEAKER_03 39:49

So, anyway. Well, Tom I go into Spaceland. SpaceX is holding uh closed door analysis meetings this week as it prepares for what could become the world's first largest IPO, potentially valued up to 1.75 trillion after merging with XAI. The company is this highlighting its Starlink's orbital AI capabilities and must vision for multiplanetary infrastructure. Um, I think it's a good move. I think that gives more people to it brings more awareness, and I think it also starts a trend, you know, for others to compete in this space. So I think it's a good good avenue to go to. What do you think about that, Chris?

SPEAKER_02 40:20

I'm a little concerned. I mean, it kind of feels like the umbrella company coming, you know, like if you guys know the video game, like uh it's kind of becoming so large now. Uh AI, uh, you know, X, the X platform, and even you know, even X where people are posting. I'm a little concerned about having companies this big, you know. I don't know why. Is that so he has borrowing power? Why would you do that? Why would you make every asset you have one superpower? Doesn't it make borrowing maybe easier? But then again, uh I don't know.

SPEAKER_08 40:47

I mean, I think what what he's doing is like it's all all the most biggest kind of infrastructure. I mean, SpaceX itself, right? Like the idea of going to space, consumer-based space access, right? Whether it's to actually fly to the moon one day or get to Mars. But mainly that when he did Starlink, it was like, oh, we're already using these rockets, then I'll get the satellites up. Now he's got it set to where he's got grok and then XAI bought, you know, is grok, but bot X, right? Because he was in a deal that is redacted. We can't see all the investors, and then he's got SpaceX. But I think it's great because I think it's the I I have Starlink and I've been using it for the last couple weeks on my trips. Without it, I don't know what I'd be doing. It is the best technology ever. It's like a dream come true. Like to be anywhere and have 500 gigs down and like 100 gigs up wherever I'm at, is awesome. And I think you know it's interesting because part of this story is that it was just announced yesterday that XAI is going to buy Cursor, which is the IDE platform for AI coding, to build programs and do things with, right? For 60 billion. But if they don't stay working with them, there's a guarantee to cursor for 10 billion, no matter what. Which I think is great because cursor for me was the doorway to AI coding to use all the different models and to create awesome programs as I do. Of course, I stay on codex now, but uh, it's like I still have my cursor, I still pay 200 bucks a month for it because it's that powerful of a to change your life. You want to make anything in the world, and the fact that that's not included in this headline, but I think Elon is doing more than any other human being alive to give the people access to things that the elites only have had, like he's actually doing it, and then almost in many ways gatekeeping the elites out because he's gonna out, he's outpacing them. And it's it does feel like with Pluto and Aquarius and Yoron's coming to Gemini, this is where the people come together with these kind of things. I mean, honestly, I don't see that's but that's but that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_03 43:07

Like there's a fear of be having the over dominance, as Chris was saying, but I also feel like too, it's it creates more you know leadership in this in this avenue to where other people can maybe have more competitors and becomes a new norm, you know, especially the type of you know, using satellite for internet, use satellite for cell phone calling. That can become a norm because of this leadership and innovation with this. So that's why the IPO part of this is great, you know, and gets people to invest in lock rocket ro rocket launches and do more part of the what's going on. I think it's also gives a chance for financial transparency now, too, it being an IPO and going that direction. So that's true. It makes it more transparent in that regard.

SPEAKER_02 43:42

I kind of still sense, and this is my theory, that uh Elon is the one responsible for Mars going extinct, his soul, and he's reincarnated. This is his prices to bring him back to Mars. I feel like that's his karma. I think that's why people feel like it may be potential darkness in him because he was at one point, you know, in the soul's lifetime. But I do feel like now he's on a good path. Uh, you know, I'd like to. Like that, there's something that challenges the defense defense department's budget, you know. And I like you just said that there's something that uh is all transparent as far as where their costs are going. We don't know where our you know black money goes to and our defense department at all. We have no idea. I'm glad that Boeing finally has a competitor they're afraid of, you know, and things like that too, and McDonnell Douglas. That's good too, keeping them in check. But I just I think you're right, David. I think it's probably because they're trying to get rid of investors, just clopping off of those old investors, getting full control over your board and your investors. That's probably the motivation here, but it's still pretty big company, man.

SPEAKER_08 44:31

Yeah, but I think you know, going up against all the like basically, I mean, the the the Russian uh space world, and you know, you're taking on NASA, right? Like what he's doing is he's proven that a private company can do better than the governments of the world in space. That is what SpaceX has proved. Like, this whole Artemis 2 was looked it was a joke. The whole the whole no, I mean, like if you know the point embarrassing, I think there's that the reason why it's so big is because SpaceX by itself is beating the the the the government of the world with going to space, like made makes NASA look embarrassing. They usually use SpaceX to save them. Last year, SpaceX saved the the astronauts that got stuck at the space station. It's true because Boeing is messing up and can't create crap. So I think that's true. I think if you were to look at the numbers, it's like 75% of the money is all that rocketry and SpaceX and then all the rest of the stuff is underneath. But I think because he wants to make AI more accessible and cool it off and use space for it. He's really, I mean, that guy is a he thinks about the future, and that guy, I mean, it's kind of crazy because he's a double cancer, so I he does care. I mean, he I think he does care. I think he really wants humanity to win. Yeah, he's always advocated that.

SPEAKER_03 45:59

So because he led Mars down, there's something he has behind him, too. They're innovators, too. Like, there's a lot of other masterminds he has behind him as well. That's really helpful.

SPEAKER_02 46:08

It's not just the people behind those people need a good job and a good leader. Um, when that rocket landed itself, the first time I saw it, I was like, Jesus Christ, man, are we stupid in NASA? Like, oh my god, just the idea of a rocket landing itself. I mean, that looks pretty hard to do, you know what I mean? Like, and it does itself on a on a ship at sea for crying out loud. That's it, that alone impresses me. That alone impressed me.

SPEAKER_08 46:29

Yeah, so he said, and and it is true, he has Mars and Aquarius in his charts. So, what Chris is channeling, like I think there's definitely that, like, oh, I need to make you know Mars about people, not about blowing everybody up on Mars, you know. Like, I think it is that humanitarian side of things that he's probably karmically doing.

SPEAKER_03 46:50

So he wants to go home. Yeah, speaking of innovation, Japanese construction giant envisions circling uh encircling the lunar equator with solar cells, taking advantage of the moon's lack of atmosphere and whether for nonstop generation power would be transmitted wirelessly to receiving stations on Earth, offering a futuristic path to abundant renewable energy. Um, that's gonna take a lot, I would say, because then they're gonna have to have AI robots there to adjust and to maintain. So um, I think it's far-fetched, but I think it's a good direction, I would say for sure. What happens? I think go on.

SPEAKER_02 47:23

I was just like, what happens if you get in front of that beam? Like, what what the hell's being how do you how do you transfer power from you know wirelessly from one place to another? There's gotta be some crazy beam that, like, you know, if your shuttle to the moon gets in front of it, that sounds dangerous, but okay.

SPEAKER_03 47:37

What do you mean what do you mean? Because they position the solar panels on the moon, which gets you know sourced from the the sun, and then they can transmit that power wirelessly. Yeah, I don't I don't know how that's gonna be trans wirelessly without power, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 47:48

I don't know. How's that happen? You know, like I guess there's law. I mean, I don't know. I maybe you cut a new Grand Canyon if you're off by an inch. I don't know.

SPEAKER_08 47:55

I was gonna say, uh, you know, when it comes to the Japanese um in our own oceans, I don't trust them with anything. I mean, they are the biggest, like, you know, fish are like the the fish and what they do. So for for them to go, you know what, let's start messing with the moon and with the solar and beaming all this energy. Uh fit fix your damn oceans, get your fish like the Japanese, they rely on imports because they are small uh you know, island, you know, country basically. They are not exporters except for electronics, like they used to be, but the only Sony still in the game and like Nintendo. So it I think that and Canon. So it's like I think that's the problem, is like it's also a country with like the lowest birth rates.

SPEAKER_02 48:41

I was gonna say it's because they stopped having sex, right?

SPEAKER_08 48:44

Like Japan is a place that honestly, like in 20-30 years, uh could you call it Japanese? Like, are those Japanese people left? Like, I think they're I don't I I think they have smart people, but I I I don't think that they have like the infrastructure of a of a society to be able to continue these kind of innovative ideas. Maybe they they could they they could help, but I think it doesn't it doesn't seem practical.

SPEAKER_03 49:10

I mean, where are these stations on earth can be set up? Where in what communities? How big are they gonna be? Like and the radiation effects of getting the I don't know, I just feel like it's just too far-fetched.

SPEAKER_08 49:19

Somebody brought brought the whole Fukushima thing, and I forgot about that. Not only the fishing, but also they they know how to throw nuclear waste into the ocean after a huge tsunami and just act like nothing happened, like you know what I mean, and it's still leaking in the ocean, so never needed to happen.

SPEAKER_02 49:35

You know, as a son who who my dad did nuclear reactoring protection through the entire United States in the 80s, he built he put in a lot of systems, and US plants are designed to uh actually self-sabotage before they'll ever melt. They have a chemical compound at the top that will put out the reactor, ruins the plant, five or you know, four or five billion dollar plant, but doesn't get to the people in the United States. You know, the other countries we've had disasters, they don't have this self-sabotage mechanism, and so they end up sabotaging the earth. So I agree, they are not qualified to build something that will not kill us, not yet. I know I don't trust them. And Sony's going on go to Sony. I don't I don't see it as uh I don't see it as a technology engine, you know, in innovator anymore. You know, um I think the fact they're not having sex, like the men are not getting married. I mean, I don't know why, they're just isolating themselves, they work too hard, apparently. I don't know what it is, but there's something weird in that culture, you know, and and uh Korea has taken over. I mean, as far as technology, low-cost technology innovation.

SPEAKER_08 50:26

Yeah, I mean it I forgot they their cameras, like Sony cameras and their TVs, are still kind of a leading technology, but can't do it all. And I you know what there they have a little issue with some of their, let's just say, sexual fantasies that are weird, right? Um, so I think that is proof that it could lead to depopulation.

SPEAKER_02 50:53

The walk band was the height of their success, probably. The walk the walkband.

SPEAKER_03 50:58

Well, the last one we have is UFO researcher David Wilcox reportedly dies at 53. And uh unconfirmed reports claim David Wilcox died by suicide on April 20, 2026, after Bowl County Sheriff's Deputies respond to a mental health crisis call near uh Niederland, Colorado. Well, no officials identified no official identification has been released by the coroner. The location and timing had led to widespread speculation in UFO and alternative media communities. And we have a few clips to run about this too.

SPEAKER_15 51:28

Clips. I would love to see you guys talk to David Wilcock. In fact, he's here.

SPEAKER_08 51:37

I wouldn't mind talking to him.

SPEAKER_15 51:38

I just think that he he took a lot of risks to put himself out there. And I think the other thing I like about him is that he doesn't take himself too seriously.

SPEAKER_02 51:48

It's kind of Pisces, you know, Pisces is like two fish different ways. Like there's a good Wilcox and there's a Wilcox that just undermines that good Wilcox.

SPEAKER_01 51:54

I mean, it is just such a wild time to be alive. It's so insane, it's so crazy, but at the same time, we have all these interesting things going on that involve, you know, higher consciousness and extraterrestrials and disclosure. But I want you to never give up hope or forget your true calling. It's very important that we stick to the calling. We are all on this inexplicable, massive journey together, and life is never going to be dull at this point in time. So again, please stay true to your inner calling by reflecting and calling upon your own inner Christ self. It's a it's a difficult time, don't get me wrong, but yes, I do believe that the planet itself will be okay. I mean, individually, you have to mind your own karma, you have to be able to stay on top of everything. But yes, I do believe the planet will be okay. You gotta be you gotta watch out for your own self, watch out for your own business. So I'm really happy that I got to bring you the show today, guys. I didn't know if I was gonna do one. I was really down. My energy has been really down from these symptoms that I've been having. It's been very hard to work. Um I've had a really low energy situation, but you know, the more that I can get ahead of the game and get back on track, the better it's gonna be.

SPEAKER_17 53:05

As many of you know or have learned, um yesterday on 420, David Wilcock took his own life. He never hurt anyone. He never denigrated, talked down to anyone. He treated everyone well. And he brought such a huge body of knowledge and information to this world. I hope people remember him and respect him for that. The amount of relentless cyber stalking, bullying, uh attacking everyone close to you until they turn on you or or abandon you. Um this is something that was done systematically for a long time. The people that cyberbullied him to this point are now claiming victory and making videos of celebration. David made a big difference in a lot of people's lives. He did not deserve to have his reputation completely destroyed uh for uh you declare someone a drifter or this or that, and then aha, it is now open reign for me to do everything possible to destroy them. You know, it it it takes a lot to get uh uh someone to a point where they take their own life, and um these people are not only not ashamed of it, they're celebrating it. So um enough is enough people.

SPEAKER_02 54:58

Oh, that's interesting. That was us bringing bringing it up two weeks ago. There's a couple things we're talking about psychedelics in the last coup few episodes, and we're talking about Dave O'Cock. So we're definitely a psychic show in the sense that topics we're choosing are going to become perhaps popular later on. Um, I don't know. What who's who's Corey Good talking about? I mean, he does he he makes these claims that people are celebrating. Does he have footage? I mean, is it online he's talking about in strings like Facebook and Twitter?

SPEAKER_03 55:25

I mean, I would assume, I mean, I've David Wilcox has gotten a lot of you know um crap for a long time. So I that that's kind of like the a known thing that he's been kind of getting a lot of scrutiny this way. So I'm sure, but I don't think he he's providing that. But I've I've seen it seen a lot of discussions, you know, uh against him throughout the years.

SPEAKER_02 55:44

I had a friend of a friend of uh Michelle Michelle Jones sent me an article today that a lot of these uh these attacks are AI bots. That we have an issue with AI bots actually deliberately attacking people to sway public opinion. That's something we should bring up in a future episode. Maybe have Michelle on, but like I wonder how much is really haters and what is really just you know a cell phone tower in the desert.

SPEAKER_03 56:05

And you see, but I see there's bots arguing with the with each other, I've seen. Yeah, they're like talking, arguing with each other, and and so yeah, I I wouldn't and right now all the do is put, you know, whoever's in charge and dictating the information could just push one button, have that all sent out, and you know, have a huge swaying lot of influence too. And and like you David and I were talking about this before the show when you were just away that you know, they have so many different ways that I feel like those are in control can use certain frequencies and other you know influence through technology to sway people to be become suicidal. So um, you know, there could be an idea that you know perhaps he did physically out himself, but he was pushed to it through the psychological uh manipulation through technology and pushed to the influences right now that I think that's they have so much control with technology in that way, they can also influence people's perspectives and mindsets and mental health and 100% erode naturally.

SPEAKER_02 56:53

Look, my fallout was was it was antidepressant, it was an antidepressant that I've been taking over and over again. I won't name the actual drug, but I was taking it as prescribed, and then suddenly I had voices. It was like it came on like a radio station, and there is stuff that came through the psychic channel that was was encouraging me to do harm to myself or others. There was absolutely, and I told doctors that they just listened and wanted to give me a bigger prescription or a different prescription. They did not even for one second listen to what I was telling them. So I I can totally believe that even his own doctor could be to some degree, not deliberately, but despite prescribing, it's very possible. That technology is available right now in a pill. I know that for a fact. I've experienced that.

SPEAKER_08 57:30

I think what's very complicated about the situation is we have the police report that they showed up to his house, he came out, he had a gun, and then he offed himself in front of the police the property, and there was nobody on there, so there was no altercation with that he why he had the weapon. But if I if you watch his live stream, it's it's very hard because you see the David Wilcock that honestly is the one we love the the very keep it together spiritually, the disclosure to stay above these crazy times. He was unhappy that the files didn't come out on April 14th. But then he also mentioned all the stress he's been under. He goes into some weird characters on his lives, and that one was really weird. He puts the glasses on and starts talking all weird.

SPEAKER_05 58:20

Huh.

SPEAKER_08 58:21

He also was talking about how much weight he had lost because if you see he he had lost a lot of weight and then he starts showing his veins, like see him like getting veins and stuff, and he and he and so it's like he was still there with his spirituality. Of course, he also claimed in the video that he would never off himself for the spiritual purpose, but we also don't really know, and I think you're right, Chris, and and Scott said it too many times. Like, I think they use these drugs to take people over, or it could be direct energy weapon stuff. I think we need to see some body cam footage from these police if that's what they they saw before we know for sure. But like it's hard because it's both. There was something definitely going on with him mentally, and there was a guy just like really hitting some very hard truths that kind of go with the way that the scientist missing situation is. So maybe he's missing because of that, or but the coroner just in the last couple hours came out and confirmed it was him. Um so but he pulls a gun and kills himself when the police arrive.

SPEAKER_03 59:36

But that's but that's that's what I'm saying. I I really feel that he, you know, was I feel pushed and infiltrated using technology to get him to be in these mental states. I don't, I felt like his last show was it felt kind of I don't want to say cryptic, but it kind of felt like he knew that clip just felt cryptic. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So, but I feel like he was infiltrated, and they they they don't just out people right away either abruptly because it looks too suspicious, too. Obviously, we've had these 11 deaths you're just talking about. But I think with someone who's in the public eye, they do it slowly. That's what if they really want to out some, they do it slowly, they make them go a little crazy, so then people start doubting their words and messages, yeah. You know, so that's what I feel pushed.

SPEAKER_08 1:00:14

Yeah, well, and I think you add on top, that's what happens with men. The highest, you know, suicide rates are men, and he lived alone in Colorado in that compound for many, many years. Okay, like his last girlfriend wife left him. He was going through the lawsuit stuff, he was going through, and honestly, I don't think Corey Good's good, right? So, like, yeah, I actually like what Cliff Hyde just put out saying, Corey Good, the video that was shown, that's to better Corey Good now to look like he's a great guy now because he's he used to work with David Icke. So he even admitted in the video, like I talked to him before my birthday in February, like, okay, you're obviously not that close to him, yeah. Right, like like if you were that close to him, you've been talking to him like last week. So, like, Corey Good's using this for his own gain because Cory Good's a lot of the problem behind David Icke or David Wilcock, yeah. Yeah, so I think that that that if anything, uh Cliff I said it best like it's better to be an enemy with Corey Good because his friends don't end up too well.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:22

Uh there's a track record. Uh, wasn't he supposed to David Wilcock testify in a Gaia lawsuit?

SPEAKER_08 1:01:30

Well, yeah, I mean they're still going in those lawsuits right now, still.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:35

Yeah, yeah, and so suddenly this main witness is gone. I don't know, sus to me, man.

SPEAKER_08 1:01:43

Well, I mean, I but then there's the the there's the stress toll, and like and so maybe some of the stuff Corey Good said is true, right? But but he is kind of trying to kind of throw himself into the oh I felt opportunistic, absolutely. Yeah, and so I think um I think that's where it gets really complicated here because I'd say this is the most complicated one, and that's why it's gotten so much attention. And the fact that the media just started covering it, like people mag just put it up four hours ago, right? So, like, you know, people are paying attention, and when it's all over the internet and the media ain't covering it, that's why I think it makes people really suspicious in today's world, right? But now the media is covering it, now the corner just comes out that it is him, right? And I think you know, that's what makes it really hard, right? Because you know, like when so a celebrity dies, it's instant right away, da-da-da. But if it's in these kind of offset places, it it doesn't get the same attention right away, and so I think it makes people feel like something's going on, but maybe sometimes like I'll be honest, I I'm gonna I know me people might hate me, but I got a feeling he was not doing well mentally at all, and that could have bad negative stuff that was happening, but that could maybe not be his fault.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:05

I mean, when you talk about symptoms and tired and fatigue, I was like, what's causing that? Like, why are you so run down alone on a compound? Like, that is what raised the eyebrow to me. Is like, why is he feeling so bad? Why is he so tired? What's wrong in the first place?

SPEAKER_03 1:03:18

But that's what I'm saying. We saw we've been seeing a massive decline, and so and I again think that people have other ways and just outing people slowly, like I said before. So I think it was a mental stress, like you're saying before. He's doing a lot of other things that was compiling on top of him, and people are out to get him too. So I think it's all the above. It's not so black and white. I think people are being very black and white about this. There's been almost like a gradual decline with all this, and I do feel like he's been infiltrated, you know. Um, like I said previously, with technology um that pushed him to do all this, and also the stress of being human in it.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:49

It feels like foul play. It just feels, I mean, a strong foul play vibe I get psychically. I don't know how it feels very complicated. I can't put the finger to where someone our viewers wrote, Who called the police, anyways? Who called the police and why? Who called the police?

SPEAKER_08 1:04:02

That's a good that's a good that would be a great answer to actually get because yeah, why like that that seems that's suspicious, right? I I think for though like the decline that Scott's talking about, like that's very clear. Like he would he would talk about for like on those shows like four months ago, like yeah, I I had to shovel the snow on my roof and in my gutters, and like that's why I can't do anything. Like, okay, okay, what like okay, that's part of life. Like, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, you got a compound, like you got a house, like trying I'm a dad, like he's not a dad, right?

SPEAKER_03 1:04:40

But again, if somebody wants someone wants to interfere with his message and has control to do so, they're gonna they're gonna want to make him look crazy, so they want to infiltrate him with two. So then people start doubting his information and think it's not credible because he's going crazy, and then I feel like he's been pushed to this point of of outing himself. Um, so yeah, I I definitely feel like I agree with you. That's both. He I feel like he took his life, but he's also was pushed to it with foul play. So it's to me, it's both. I feel both energies.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:06

I always feel like it's pretty ballsy to have a show on Gaia that outed a secret government space program. I was like, How are you getting away with that?

SPEAKER_08 1:05:12

Well, they canceled that show that shows off Gaia, like his main one from 26. Why? What happened?

SPEAKER_02 1:05:17

Do you know the story about that one?

SPEAKER_08 1:05:19

I mean, because then Gaia started getting what so that's the issue, right? With Gaia not wanting to put the real hardcore shit out there, becoming neuter, it's neutered. Oh right, like Gaia became neutered, but he got bought out, I think. So if you think about it, David, David Wilcock did kind of expose Gaia to be neutered spirituality, right? Like let's cut the balls off the dog here. You know, we don't want any, we don't want any big Rottweilers around here and make it all fluff cake stuff. And oh, we'll talk about disclosure stuff, but but let's not get too disclosed. Let's not get too deep. So you gotta give him the credit for that. I I just think though that the decline has been hard because if you want if you know anybody with really bad at mental illness, like the way he did conducted his shows, the stuff he would just ramble off and say, I this was the stuff I talked about two weeks ago, too. Like he was channeling from his old journal from the 90s and trying to make it that he had that it was like Noshradama's prophecies of now, and then he stopped doing that recently, right? So and then he was very Q. Let's not forget, right? So like a lot of his shows were based off Q stuff, then all the Epstein stuff. Now he started to have to defend himself about Trump stuff, about the war that he doesn't want, and he was all Trump, right? Like pushing Trump and Q hard, and then that just flipped. So if you have mental illness and you're a Q full-blown guy, and now the guy that you're supposed to believe, trust the plan, and it's you're spiritual and it's it's about war, that you could see the conflict even in his last show. Like, I mean, I don't agree with him, and Trump is kind of going crazy and putting the pictures of Jesus up, and he was not happy about all that stuff. It's like it's like his whole entire belief system fell. And so he had to go back to the beginning roots of being spiritual.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:20

Did you see that comment from a viewer that his biographer died two days prior? Is that true? We should check that out on commercial. His what? Did you see that? I mean, uh someone just put that up as a clip. One of our viewers put that up.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:32

We see that backstage, actually. And I think we should probably head over there.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:35

Yeah, backstage, that's probably true.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:36

Yeah, that's true. Look up Wilcox's chart, right?

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SPEAKER_03 1:08:57

I have no clue. I don't know why we just stood on the floor there too. I don't know why I felt with you guys. I felt I don't know if that would make no sense. So are we doing the topic now? Are we gonna go backstage and do the topic backstage?

SPEAKER_02 1:09:09

Because we're 10 over stage. What are we at? What's our TRT right now? Right? Yeah, I should probably go backstage y'all. You know, as you can see, people are dying. So we've got to put some of the stuff behind firewalls and behind paywalls also to pay for the staff. So if you wouldn't mind please coming down and being part of our backstage community where everything is safe and enchanted, enchanted that now. That's where our communities, and this is the actual link here.

SPEAKER_08 1:09:31

And only one feed in that community. So, like if you're watching on my YouTube or Scott or you know, all that's about to be turned off. You gotta go here.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:39

Yeah, okay. This is a shared community that we're just investing in this this particular product. So um, yep, come us backstage. We're gonna continue this live after we go off for the little intermission and pick up some hot topics.

SPEAKER_08 1:09:49

And all look at his chart because everybody that's like the number one demand. Chris and I and Scott will look at Wilcox's chart.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:57

I'm gonna pull it up here on the little break. Yeah. So please come and join us there. It's definitely worth the money where we can all be honest with each other, and you can post honestly too. It's a great time to get together. I think we need to start gathering, and this is a good time to start, and it's a good example. So come on backstage, Steve. We'll talk to you there, huh?

SPEAKER_03 1:10:13

Yeah, and tomorrow I'm doing sorry about that, I forgot that too. I'll do my live show tomorrow, emerging with divine consciousness and live readings as I do every Thursday at 6 p.m. Pacific time, 9 p.m. Easter time. We're looking at give you the blueprint. What it means to merge a divine consciousness and how that can convey with your impersonal life and your physical life. And so, and of course, doing live one-on-one readings as well as I do every week. So join me tomorrow at 6 p.m. Pacific time, 9 p.m. Eastern time. I had to reschedule last time. Oh, yeah, because my dog was ill and he's doing better now. So yeah, he's doing he bounced back quick. They thought he had Addison's disease or treating for Addison's Addison's disease, which comes out out of the blue, you know, even if he's perfectly healthy. So I don't know for sure about treating him, and so for the treatment has worked. He was critical. I mean, he was doing it. We get a lot of that's how bad it got. So um, that was extreme energy that we all went through.

SPEAKER_08 1:11:02

And look at there was a lot of people who just left at this time.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:05

Like, yeah, my dog was like seriously enough to go. It was it was crazy. I couldn't believe it. I'm like, we just out of nowhere, you know. So it's been it's been heavy.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:16

Hold on yourself, folks.

SPEAKER_08 1:11:17

Your dog is so lucky to have you seriously.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:22

I appreciate that, brother. Thank you for that.

SPEAKER_08 1:11:24

You know, because that's really what usually it comes down to. Some people don't take it serious enough, and they just think, oh, it'll get better, it'll get better. And it's like, no, you gotta be proactive with animals. We're they they're there for us all the time. We don't have to be there that much, but when we do, we gotta show up fully.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:42

That's true. I don't care about how much it costs it. I mean, what do you gotta do?

SPEAKER_08 1:11:46

You know, well, your your puppets are super lucky to have you. I appreciate that, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:53

Thank you. God, I spent more in vets than I have myself, I'll tell you that right now. Even the dentist, more than the dentist, and that's a lot. I know. They seriously are. You go there, it's like, okay.

SPEAKER_09 1:12:08

Don't forget about that.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:10

Even when they pass away, the cost I had a dog that died, and oh god. There's the cost of the the whole cost of everything, including the him being um Oh, the one that was at the old the old house in Thousand Oaks? Yeah.

unknown 1:12:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:23

Well that was his name again. Oh, his name is Chris. But I had another dog. I forgot. Narcissist. His name was Chris. The whole story, I'll tell you backstage.

SPEAKER_08 1:12:32

I didn't talk about that dog backstage because I know what that dog was. He was crazy.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:37

He was good, I mean, yeah. I did not name him. He was named Chris, and that's how I knew. Yeah, we called him. No, no, no, I did not. I swear to God, I'll tell you the story.

SPEAKER_09 1:12:51

I remember being stoned and being like, Chris, but I'm talking to the dog. That's true. I'm like, Chris, get get outside. Like, what? No, I'm talking to Chris the dog.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:08

The dog listens more though, that's the thing. That's true. The dog listens more than this one.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:13

He was going backstage. Yeah. Alright, we'll go backstage. Let's see you guys back there. See y'all. Join us. Join us. Get on there now. I'm stopping my YouTube.

SPEAKER_08 1:13:25

Alright. Okay. Go backstage. Go now. Go now. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:37

I'm gonna get a dog a name of David. I'm gonna get a dog named David Scott. David David. David.

SPEAKER_08 1:13:52

I'll give a dog a name of Scott.

SPEAKER_07 1:17:55

Hey, what's up? I'm the Leo King, celebrity astrologer David Palmer. And you might be asking yourself, what is a celebrity astrologer? Am I an astrologer and do I do astrology just for celebrities? You know, being a celebrity astrologer is about embodying a lot. Not only being an astrologer and of course doing readings for celebrities, but it's about connecting the astrologer aspect to the media, to the world. You know, embodying the model part of myself or the TV personality that I've been in my life to connect to this 21st century and to connect to this new world with social media and with television.

SPEAKER_18 1:18:31

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SPEAKER_07 1:18:42

Especially, astrologers have been around for thousands of years on royal courts. They've been doing it for kings and queens. I mean, bringing the astrologer back into society. It's almost like being an astrologer has been axed out and we've been kind of put into our own little weird world. And I think that it's very important to utilize, you know, all the aspects of connecting to what we think of celebrity and pop culture and bringing these ancient science practices and all this wisdom to the mainstream world. And that's why, you know, building a studio like this here at the Leo King Studios and High Vibe Studios has been part of it to be able to create my own networks, to create my own content. And a tourist is gonna have their worth and be a little bougie like you, and it will work out. You can't go with a cheap person or somebody who doesn't know their worth. Guys who don't have self-worth is your biggest turn off.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:32

That is! If you're not a competent man, get to step it. I can't deal. I can't deal.

SPEAKER_08 1:19:38

And then as time went by, I went on another big reality show called ABC True Beauty, and I went on and I said, you know what, I'm gonna tell the world I'm an astrologer. It's time. It's time to really own this. Because you have to remember being an astrologer is a little scary. You have uh religious people who think you're the devil, and then you have the scientific community who think you're schizophrenic. So there's this element of dealing with this aloneness in many ways, of like having to have the courage to follow what a lot of people think is a belief, kind of like religion, which it's not. Astrology is a bridge between the spiritual and the science energy and bringing them together.

SPEAKER_16 1:20:19

And celebrity astrologer David Palmer, who is also known as Leo King. I like that, Leo King. So, David, welcome to the show. Hey, thanks for having me on. Uh that was an amazing reading that you gave, man. And what what what information does someone learn uh from a reading?

SPEAKER_07 1:20:39

What I'm trying to show people is that it's all divine. There's divine timing in life, there's divine synchronicities, and I help people see that when they were born so they can align and understand their life better.

SPEAKER_08 1:20:50

And it's good for helping people with knowing how to go down the right roads and not the wrong roads in life because we have that choice.

SPEAKER_12 1:20:58

Celebrity astrologer David Palmer, also known as the Leo King, is back with us. So his astrology guide is a hot seller right now on Amazon. We talked earlier about um the modern approach to the age-old practice of astrology. So now let's look into the future. So, David, what does the future hold for us? You said in our last segment, this week's gonna be a big one.

SPEAKER_06 1:21:21

This week's huge. We got a Mercury retrograde coming in Pisces, which makes things really confusing.

SPEAKER_07 1:21:26

At the same time, the planet Uranus is gonna come into Taurus, like it did in 1934, which was like the rise of Hitler, the total change in hall, all the agreements with the world and world power shifting. But the big thing's President Trump, he's got a pretty intense situation going on in his life. A lot of people look at it, whether it's from the government and the court stuff that's going on, or whether or not he's colluded. But the big thing is there's gonna be so much confusion in the world, he's gonna be having to take on confusing information while being kind of attacked at the same time. So the mental stress is the biggest one. Is he gonna mentally be able to handle it?

SPEAKER_11 1:22:02

Astrologist David Palmer, aka the Leo King, who is joining us again here on ET Live. I know. Thanks for coming back. We appreciate having you, especially during Mercury retrograde.

SPEAKER_06 1:22:12

I know. Literally, the elevator on the way up was going up, no, it went down. You got in the building, you're here on C. I made it.

SPEAKER_18 1:22:20

You made it. I mean, all right, it's airy season.

SPEAKER_08 1:22:22

So, well, the reality TV, the first one was 2005. I did a show on MTV called Paranal Control. And back then that was like the first of reality. Real World was the first reality show, and then it was these dating shows that MTV brought out, but they were very extreme, and they were all LA Orange County based because that was where they got all their talent. And so we got reruns all the time. And then I did next with the next bus, where it's like five guys or five girls in a bus, and then the person who's gonna pick the dates can basically have five choices and just say next, next. It was a really big show. So MTV had me do both of them back to back. So I was on two shows replaying all the time. And that was where I was like, if I combine this with astrology, there's something there.

SPEAKER_06 1:23:12

It's all about not being afraid of learning and having expectations of going through a whole season. The way that my riding style is is really aggressive and really fast, and I like to do that as clean as possible. I don't know if it's really like motorcycle riding, I'd say it's it's jet skiing, baby.