LOL Ep 98 | The Currency of Self Worth - May 6th, 2026

A LIVE Spiritual Talkshow that unites spiritual superpowers for weekly psychic investigations and predictions.

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Motley Mystical Crew:
⭐️ Christopher Witecki  @SiriusJoyTV | https://siriusjoy.com/
⭐️ Scott Cruz  @ScottCruz | https://scottcruzpm.com/
⭐️ David Palmer @theleokingdom | https://www.theleoking.com/

Directed by Morgan Obendorfer
Produced by Erica El Hilali

Transcript

SPEAKER_11 0:04

The feds may have the power to control the currency of the US dollar and the value of the US dollar, but we the people have control of currency of self-worth right now. I'm reading out loud.

SPEAKER_05 0:48

Hello, and welcome to Leading Out Loud, a topical talk show co-hosted by three modern mystics who use their magical mystical powers to accept, deny, or debunk what we call reality, the shift show. Welcome everyone. I'm Sensei Chris Wateki, Psychic Astrologer.

SPEAKER_14 1:00

And I'm David Palmer, the Leo King.

SPEAKER_11 1:03

And I'm Scott Cruz, Psychic Media Mementor at Scott Cruz PM.com. Um that's just like ask every week, how has your week been, brothers?

SPEAKER_05 1:11

I think it's a tough week. Like a big bidet.

SPEAKER_14 1:15

Just like shooting water, just cleaning it all out. Holy geyser, yeah. Waiting for the dryer to kick in.

SPEAKER_05 1:23

I think the cloud, whatever the cloud is that you know that we've been talking about, is kind of has arrived. You know, um it's not quite apparent to the masses that people don't know yet, but I sure know. Because just a lot of things, what did the you know, Pleiades call the you know, the frequency wars, I think is what they're calling them. Whatever it is, I feel it. You know, and it feels kind of like an unrest. I mean, when Euros went into Gemini, that's when I really started getting edgy. And I don't remember being edgy the first time it went Gemini. Do you, David? I don't remember.

SPEAKER_14 1:53

It's funny, I was edgy the first time it went in, and now I came back in. I'm like, oh, finally, let's figure, figure, find some stimulation in life, some curiosity again. That's what she said. Yeah.

unknown 2:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 2:04

But no, I yeah, I think that you're describing though a similar feeling, though, that there's like this something's about to finally drop big, big, big. And this week, especially that echoed really, I think, intensely with especially like fuel prices. Oh, there's only so much oil, the last tanker to come to California, the EU, and then a bunch of flights all being canceled, and then Spirit Airlines going down and not telling anybody, and people showing up, like, what? Like, this is kind of like hey, you need to start paying attention. They're not gonna just drop, you know, warnings like 2020 for like weeks before something happens. They're just like gonna, hey, here it is.

SPEAKER_05 2:48

It's through a surprise. You know, my father was worked in oil refineries in the 70s in California, and one thing we knew as a family is that it was all bullshit. There was plenty of oil, they were stocked to overstock with it, they're holding on to it. It was a fake.

SPEAKER_11 3:03

It's the controlling of the accessibility of it. It's gives you the illusion of the lack of it. So uh, but no, I definitely feel yeah, it kind of I don't want to say kick in the nuts, but like a geyser, I feel like a geyser's about to erupt type of energy, like you were saying before last time, Christopher, kind of like something's gonna happen. I'm like, yeah, I feel like this eruption of this geyser-like energy, you know. But I've been saying primarily for like this week ahead and and maybe the first half of of May that we need to be focused on kind of resolving past shit, uh, you know, making amends for like past relationships. You know, I had this really, and then just to be personal, this innate energy to like reach out to someone in in middle school that I used to tease. And I looked her up, I said, you know, I just want to let you know, I I you know, I feel really bad. I was a jerk to you in in middle school. And I said, hopefully you you you know, you you take my apology. And it's like I get off my chest. And then right when I did that, I got an email from someone from my past saying, hey, I'm sorry if I was never there for you. I'm like, holy shit, you know, like this is kind of like coming all at once. And so I've been feeling that like making that amends of the past, whether it be directly with relationships or just you know, just you know, consciously making amends um and take responsibility and accountability for certain things. I feel like things have got to be pushed forward. My May has been already very busy, and so I feel like things are to be thrusted forward. So you want to kind of clear out any like residue of karma um as much as you can.

SPEAKER_05 4:19

It's certainly cycling. I mean, for me, I find myself again at the same spot I was once upon a time. I'm like here I am again in some certain part of my life. I'm gonna go into it. It's like here we are, starting from scratch again, start with step zero. But um, but astrologically it makes sense for me. Aside from that, it feels weird. The planet feels weird. I feel, I don't know, it doesn't feel like I'm waking up on the same planet. I don't feel cozy like I used to feel cozy in certain places. Like, I'm not comfortable. The the bull can't settle down.

SPEAKER_14 4:44

Yeah, well, I think that that astrologically speaking, today Pluto just stationed retrograde, and so we've had all the planets direct for over a month and a half. Yes, then that's like being going like at the speed of light, right? Like in Star Wars, like there is no looking out the window and seeing all the houses, right? It's like, whoa. But when a planet retrogrades, it starts to pull that resistance, kind of to slow things down to to kind of catch our breath and see what's going on and to receive. And with Pluto, it brings up fears, of course, but extreme change in this one. If you just think about six months ago when Pluto went direct, this has been the most extreme changes we've all seen in our personal lives, the world over the last six months. And so with Pluto stopping this morning to retrograde, that's really like I think what people are feeling is like whenever Pluto's stopping, you feel this kind of intensity that's about to happen. And on top of that, all the outer planets have moved into the new signs. But this is actually a great week astrologically, where it's like the doors that are opening are amazing. Sun sextile Jupiter, like there's there's no negative stuff. Mars just finished the big square to Jupiter. So it's like, I feel like it's like get out of worrying about what what you're what's going to happen, because it's more about what are you gonna do? Like, do something. You're gonna have regrets by not stepping into your power now. Like, this is really owning your value with all this Taurus, like that with Mercury at the fastest. Mercury's doing over two degrees a day right now. We're gonna have to be cleaning next week. This is still, even with one planet now retrograde, everything moving full speed ahead. It's all it's actually a lot of great energy, but I think it's been hard for people to kind of like trust in that, but we have to trust in that.

SPEAKER_11 6:28

Well, and I think if you look at the work we've done like up to this point, right? And we've like we've said the past couple weeks, like we've been creating that kind of new identity of like who we are, what we don't like, and kind of put the things in our past that we need to resolve. And I think that you know, we start realizing we're finding our place. And I I've been saying for a while that's what 2026, the summer of 2026 really is it's finding one's place, community, new connections with community. And I feel a lot more people are gonna be gauging out in the real world, you know, not just online and finding their communities and not such too. And so um I think that we should allow those impulses and discernment to like push us in that direction. I think we're gonna feel more of a need to connect with people on a on a person to person, face-to-face level. Um, and so we should definitely follow those modalities too. Um, and I think a lot of us have been so wrapped up in the technology and AI and all this other stuff, we lost sight of that connection. So I summertime really calls to that. And I think we should like let those impulses go. If you feel like you want to travel, travel. If you feel like you really want to do something new, do it. And so it sounds so stupidly simple, it's not overly philosophical, but it's got we're here to cheerlead everybody on. It's like do it, do it, do it. And so um, I think it's like the mid- you know, mid-part of May is where it all kind of bursts that way, you know, for all of us.

SPEAKER_05 7:36

I think it's I really feel this is the return of Atlantis timeline. And I'm certain of it this last week. It felt like for the first time, I was like, Oh shit, I was right. Like I we are not really going forward, actually, we're going backwards in time. I I believe this is a theory I have, and we're going to an Atlantis karmic timeline because I even had fears of losing house, my house, and my home and all kinds of stuff like that coming up. Like, where the hell is this coming from? I think it's ancient. And I had an of course you David, you're probably both of you this is this way. You'll have a series of readings that kind of themed together through the whole week. Yeah, I just did a whole week as Atlantis people, you know, and it was like they're all recognizing it and seeing it as well. Which was, you know, as a kid, it was like it's like a weird myth. But now it feels like I was there. I have memories. It's it's pretty interesting, and it feels foreign. It feels really foreign. I don't know how to describe it, it's just it does not feel like like my life. But I also feel that I've always felt like we're gonna have two lifetimes in this lifetime. Very few people will carry over to the next life, be in both of them. You have to be in your whole past life history to be in both of them, right? Because I think what's coming in next is the people you're gonna be friends with, the ones you're gonna go wander on the bus and find, Scott, you're talking about. I think you're your friends from you know, from Moo or from Atlantis, honestly.

SPEAKER_11 8:40

Sure, sure. I I totally I totally resonate with that too. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_14 8:45

I I was gonna say that I think right now people are at a place to where the like they don't know what the future feels like. It feels foreign because we've never been here before. Like the energies, but then there is that kind of like past life, like wait, wait, we we have to where we got to such a place, if you use the Atlantis understanding, to where it did become kind of foreign in like the experimental and technological, yep, right? So I think we're at this, like, we've never been here, especially the outer planets, we've never been here where they're all in harmony, they're all in these new air fire signs, and it's like it's like being on a psychedelic. Yeah, it kind of is, and I think that yeah, it's like a new world that we have to go create. I was gonna say, like, if you're truly in yourself, whatever happens with gas, whatever happens with all these fears they're pushing out, if you're really in yourself, none of that's gonna matter, and then people keep forgetting we know there's gonna be some crazy new energy, some new technological advance, some new thing that's gonna like make us make people who worry so much be like, Oh, wait, never mind, why did I worry?

SPEAKER_11 9:55

You know, well, and I think a lot of this feeling is too we've evolved so much on as a species, and but it's also spiritually, that we've completed karmic cycles midlife. And I've always seen people kind of live a full life, they they finish that karmic cycle, then they incarnate and start the new cycle in that incarnation. We've uh complete a lot of us two or three karmic cycles in one lifetime. And so when we complete a karmic cycle, it's like we're at a uh almost like a fresh board who are like, oh, I can start creating something new. I have this new direction, things are clear, and so that's the manifestation time. So a lot of us are experiencing that. So, Christopher, you might be uncomfortable the fact that you've you know completed this karmic cycle, and there's like this whole new, uncomfortable, less structured world ahead of you that you have to refine, you know.

SPEAKER_05 10:37

Well, and then this one is a painful one. I mean, I think I wrote that bitch down, you know, like um it was a bad one. I think I'll stay calm though. What's funny is I'm calm, stuff's happening crazy, but I and I'm calm. Like I feel pretty calm. My mind's going, we should be flipping out, but I'm just like, well, we're tired of it. You know, like the inside voice talking to me. But I can feel uh I can feel the energies like the I tell you, there was you know, Atlantis had alien visitors all the time, they were walking among the people. It was like aliens are part of the culture, and I think that that's what I'm feeling first, is like the alien beat feeling, is like having them here because I know they're coming, I can feel it. I can feel that's coming too. It just feels weird, it feels alien to say nothing else. It's just it's just different. And the last thing I'll say is, you know, when when the planets bring peace like this, the first thing that happens is everything goes shit to shit. Because people are like kind of like they're hearing this like drumbeat, drumbeat, drumbeat, their whole life of this pounding energy, and it goes away. And the body and everything, the soul just wants to keep up the beat. Like for it takes a while for people to relax, and so you see more crazy when this first goes peaceful.

SPEAKER_14 11:35

I find yeah, and I think well, since I just went through a divorce, like when you whenever you go through a karmic situation, it's like a divorce. Like, that was the energy, that was the loop, that was the pattern. And then, like, you know, like me now, I'm kind of like, all right, like I have got my kids. Okay, now this is a new personal life. Like, what do I do now after that when I do have free time? It's like I'm like, oh, let me go shampoo the carpets. Yep, let me go like like it's like you know, I'm in my 40s now. I'm like in a whole different space, so that's new in a sense that way, but like any kind of breakup or even any kind of job change for somebody, there is that weird space, but we're getting it on every level right now. Like everybody's gone through some sort of like disconnect from who isn't the person that they actually are anymore, right? So I think that that brings us to this weird in-between space where you know the doors are closed now, and then like what door do we fully open? Like, which one do we really open? And it's okay to kind of take the the opportunity to look at them all, but if you stay too long, then you don't get in, then you're stuck in between the hallway and the matrix and waiting for a keymaker and you don't get anywhere.

SPEAKER_11 12:49

Well, that's yeah, that's a lesson in practicality, too, because I think a lot of people like to just take massive jumps. People try to like quantum leap into another paradigm. It's like, but it doesn't happen that way. If you learn to be spiritually and intellectually practical, then we understand that next door open is this right beside us, and it's actually, you know, it takes baby steps. We can crawl, we don't have to necessarily leap all the time. And some I think a lot of us in the spiritual communities, most people have been so inf infiltrated with the on trying to leap, change realities, change timelines, and that it negates the practicality of what's needed for your next steps. And a lot of the next steps is the bridging between now and the next paradigm, the future paradigm, is that practicality. Um because we've done a lot of that work, you know, collectively and individually. We've done a shitload of work. I mean, we've been infiltrated so much with the media and news of all this like fear, all these different deprivations. And it's like we're still like, yeah, okay, what's that what's next? So we've actually survived a lot, and we have to you know give ourselves credit for that. Um, and just like I like to use the revelation in the Bible about the fact that there's always a trial and tribulation period before the revelation, so we've gone through the trial and tribulation period. We're in revelation phase now, right? And so, and that's where we ascend, you know, the meter rapture is the ascension of five to into 5D consciousness, and so we're seriously embarking on that right now, you know.

SPEAKER_05 13:58

So or if you're left behind, just like play. No, I've it's true. I I'll tell you this. Well, this came in this week, and this is real. I think people get one chance. There's only one door that opens, by the way. There's only one door that opens. I keep getting over and over again. If you have an opportunity to have a lifetime comp, you better take it. You better take it because I don't think you'll get two more chances like used to in this power of threes. It's happening immediately. So don't miss the bus, guys. You know, like just hop on. You better be hopping on the wrong bus and getting off than you are missing the bus.

SPEAKER_14 14:26

Yeah, you'd bet rather be forced gump, and even if the bus is uncomfortable, you're gonna find Janny on there.

SPEAKER_05 14:32

You are you know, but it'll be one opportunity. You know, people tend to hesitate, especially now. It's like, I don't know, people are indecisive. I'm like, this is a this is an exchange yard of like trains, big timelines are coming to crossheads, and you do you won't get another opportunity. You know, if it comes and it's incredible, take it. Especially if it's something you've been working on your whole life, you know, if it's an obvious answer, there's not gonna be a second chance.

SPEAKER_11 14:54

Yeah, and I just want to clarify too. Someone's like, I've been taking those next steps forever now. Well, it's like, are you actually taking the correct steps? Are you like detouring, you know, stopping back to look at like what fell behind you? Like, so many people think the steps are taking are the real steps, they're not using that discerning, you know, uh navigation. I see a lot of people, they're taking their steps, they're in a freaking loop. They're just walking in a circle, and like what do you get out of that fucking circle? That's movement, but no progression. You know, so discernment is like the steps should be joyful and enjoyable, or at least enlightening to some degree. But if you feel like you're in repetition, you're stuck in a loop. Yeah, so those aren't really next steps.

SPEAKER_05 15:29

And the change is how you treat yourself. I keep keep saying the ticket is you, you're the one making this movie happen. So you tend to think it's gonna be a choice in the outer world. It's not, it's a choice in the inner world that actually switches you to a new timeline. It's not outer. And uh, and it doesn't matter how many times I think I'm on a new path. I always like, how the fuck I get back here again, guys. I'm always back there. I don't know if it's gonna ever stop, you know.

SPEAKER_14 15:50

That's how the alien thing is, too. It's not this physical outer being that are sitting in a spaceship like physical. It's it's definitely inner. So I think it's it's more in the spiritual realm, it's interdimensional. It's even like with the way the planets work, like we look at the physical just to like know the positions, but all the work is done internally. The math is done internally, everything is done internally, the cycles are known internally. I think that you know, I think that the time of like living in a pattern is gone. Like you can't, and I'm not talking about like divine patterns, I'm talking about like our the cycles and and even this idea of staying in a karmic loop. Yeah, the astrology shows that's gone, that's fully gone. And I think that's what might feel weird, or we're you know, our biggest addiction is what always causes our self- undoing, like that we constantly want to get addicted to these cycles. The universe is like, I'm not we're not letting that happen. Look at like the homeless situation in California, like finally everybody's now on the same page. We gotta do something about it, right? Like, oh, okay, it's been like 16 years, right? And now the astrology, like, okay, yeah, we can't just like you just can't just like live on the street and do do drugs anymore. Right. So the astrology is even showing that in how it's happening to people that think they can just live in the street and just do drugs all day. Like that's not gonna last anymore.

SPEAKER_11 17:16

Yeah, and it but I think that's because we're at a position to where we've gone through so many individual cycles and completed those individual cycles, now we're starting to recognize it's about a collective cycle. Because if and I love that you said that, Dave, because like a lot of us are shifting in the same ways or seeing the same things, we're starting to become more humanitarian, we're starting to think about how what we do affects others around us, right? And so now we're in this collective shift of cycle, which to me is very exciting as an Aquarius, being the polluters of an Aquarius, it is that more humanitarian understanding. We are collectively connected now, and we're seeing more of that more than ever. People getting sick around the same time, people getting poor around the same time, people getting wealthy around the same time. There's a we're starting to recognize now we're shifting you know together and and and in sync this way. That to me is a realization of how we're truly evolving to shift and shape the planet, shift and shape the our species, right? And to me, that's what this period's all about, you know. And I've been waiting for this period for like a decade. I'm glad we're in it actually.

SPEAKER_14 18:09

So I'm I think we've been waiting for this period for about 12,000 to 14,000 years. Right, exactly. Yeah, so you know, that to bring it back to Chris and the Atlantean thing, right? Like this is actually where it's like, no, we all go together, not a little group of like people, and then everybody else deals with the downfall because of those people, right?

SPEAKER_05 18:28

Yeah, and I think we have a real hell like a hell marriage, like holy shit, because it's the same people, the same souls have been assholes the whole time. Um, from what I'm and that's what's interesting about this karma, because most karma, when you do the next cycle, you change sides. Not this time, because it was broken, it was not allowed to fit complete. So we go back to where we were. The good guys are the good guys again, and the bad guys are the bad guys again.

SPEAKER_11 18:48

I agree, yeah. We but that's the whole thing about spirit soul mastery is that we have to understand that the as of both polarities. So that's what mastery is. I was the yin and the yang in in both aspects of my in my spiritual conquest. And so we have to understand both aspects. And so I think a lot of people were empathetic in this lifetime who really empathetic were not so much in their past incarnation, and so they flipped it. You know, I'm saying they're so empathetic, oh, just positive energy. It's like, yeah, you were a negative prick in your last incarnation, so that's why you're so extreme in this incarnation.

SPEAKER_06 19:15

I know, you know.

SPEAKER_11 19:16

But I think that once we master the balance, that's what to me, who soul mastery is when we get to ascend out of three-dimensional reality, is when we actually understand, oh, both is necessary. I found the balance between the both aspects, you know, of the spectrum of energy. And so um a lot of people are starting to see that. A lot of people are starting to recognize that too.

SPEAKER_14 19:32

Yeah, and people can't wear that mask anymore, like the ego empathy mask. Like, I am gonna say I have empathy, look like it, but not really actually have right, right, right.

SPEAKER_05 19:42

It was developed to deal with the with our slave masters, though. I mean, we all could be sort of pretending because we're all under some sort of control of someone else, like it was just the dark ages and that nastiness, you know. Looking at my business ahead, I'm like, I don't think it's about even it's about learning who you are, but now it's really about your magic. It's about what do you do with it. Where I spent the last 20 years just trying to piece Humpty Dumpty back together again. Now it feels like, okay, this is getting kind of boring now. It's time to move forward.

SPEAKER_11 20:04

You know, you're humping and you were dumping, that's what you were doing. Yeah, he's still not back together.

SPEAKER_05 20:08

But the point is, he never will be.

SPEAKER_11 20:10

That's just happening.

SPEAKER_14 20:12

Well, next time he needs to use the bidet, and he always tries to fall on a toilet, it doesn't work out too good for him.

SPEAKER_05 20:17

He was on the toilet, that was a problem. Uh so yeah, I think I see a different future for uh for us going forward when it comes to our businesses because I think we're gonna be needed for other reasons, like superpowers. You know, a lot of people are worried about AI, blah, blah, blah. But I'm like, I think humans are gonna evolve past AI. I think we're gonna start. We we are capable of flying, from what I read from the yogas, you know, in in the India. Like we are capable of doing all kinds of cool shit. So there's a lot of still opening up and realizing for humans that we haven't even come to yet.

SPEAKER_14 20:43

The AI, look at look at more people are worried about gas than AI now. I know. Like, that's so funny. The AI, like fear came, and then this whole Iran war, and then now, oh, you're not gonna have flights, you're not gonna have gas. Nobody's all freaked out about AI anymore. If you notice it, online you don't see people like I can't believe there's a couple people. Most people are like, damn, like gas is expensive. Oh, they're telling us we have four weeks left in refineries.

SPEAKER_11 21:06

Oh god, oh why that's the fucking gaslighting of our fucking media and guns. Literally, it's like it's like they shift in a matter of a day of like, I'm worried about this. It's just the gaslighting right now.

SPEAKER_02 21:19

And they're lighting it on fire.

SPEAKER_11 21:20

They're just like, yeah, woo. Right. That's right, right. And but see, that to me is more petrifying than the gas and the AI. That's more petrifying to me that people can be swayed that quickly and that easily, you know.

SPEAKER_05 21:31

I think that's what the whole final lesson is for humanity, is that we we realize at some point, like, wait a second, you know, I've been manipulated. There's a moment I think you realize it. Um, they realize it. I've I've realized it, you know, but I still fall into it. And there's a gone that means someone can win a hundred dollars. Gentlemen, here's a something is wrong with the world.

SPEAKER_09 21:51

You can feel it in the static, in the signals, in the fractures no one else wants to see. I thought I was chasing a secret. I didn't go. The machine was buried beneath the noise. But the deeper I went, the more reality began to tear. The city opened. The mask. And beyond the chaos, there was another light. A guy. A boy. And what comes next? Now the old world is collapsing in plain sight. The new one is already calling. And once you cross that line, once you see what waits on the other side, you do not return to the same.

SPEAKER_00 22:50

I see it. The gate is open. No. Tell them I'm not coming back. I'm finishing this right now.

SPEAKER_09 22:59

The signal has changed. The future is opening.

unknown 23:03

And this is only the beginning.

SPEAKER_01 23:06

It's the spirit dial. It bridges the fracture.

SPEAKER_00 23:10

How long has it been here?

SPEAKER_01 23:14

Waiting for you to answer.

SPEAKER_09 23:17

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SPEAKER_05 24:06

Like, what's gonna happen? You've created like a whole drama there about the future that I'm scared about.

SPEAKER_14 24:12

Actually, that that I made that commercial for Spirit Down Lady Avalon, but it's like the fracture, like that's what we're in, like, you know, of time. And like he's breaking through and she's showing up, like, hey, like, I got the door, the gateway open, walk through the door. There's only one door, right, Chris? And walk through that bitch. Yeah, you're like incredibly flexible.

SPEAKER_05 24:31

You I mean, actually, that thing looks like it was shot, honestly. It looks like it was shot. Like, but I mean I'm close.

SPEAKER_14 24:36

Yeah, it's getting we're we're very close now. And it's gonna be the good.

SPEAKER_05 24:41

I mean, yeah, amazing good work there.

SPEAKER_11 24:43

Uh so I guess set for headlines, boys. Uh who's gonna read? I'll read them, I guess. Not that I had don't have any tech issues, I can read without hesitation. You won't bring your voice back. Yeah. Uh the Kubby. I'm kidding. Uh turned its region equivalent in size to Sweden into a reserve for renewable natural resources. The ban blocks dozens of pending oil and mining projects and aims to halt deforestation and proje uh protect uh biodiversity. So you think about that, guys.

SPEAKER_14 25:15

I think they're trying to save their resources because they know the whole world's about to go uh desire for resources. And when the same astrology when the Aztecs were taken out and the Incas and when the Spanish came, the exact same astrology. So I think they're just like acting all diversity and like you know, make it look all like protecting the environment when it's really like don't steal our shit.

SPEAKER_11 25:38

Right. It's hoarding, it's kind of like a hoarding to me in a sense, too.

SPEAKER_05 25:41

I pretty though, I've told you this South America will be the new thing, I think, by the time we're retired. I think uh north and the northern continent's gonna be nothing, it's gonna be all South America stuff.

SPEAKER_14 25:50

That's where Hitler ended up at the end of World War II during your own Gemini. So South America is like the the the safest place of your own Gemini every time.

SPEAKER_05 25:59

I want to throw some out the more south.

SPEAKER_14 26:01

More south.

SPEAKER_05 26:02

Have you guys picked up anything on Cuba? Because I keep getting a little signs that Cuba's gonna be freed. It's come up in like four conversations, actually.

SPEAKER_14 26:10

Yeah, uh yeah. Well, I know the astrology, but yeah. What is it? Well, it's just the same Jupiter Saturn of 2020 was the same of 1960 that brought in JFK, right? So it's like then in those first years, and we're at that place to where Cuba got brought up, uh you know, and then now we're at the place where they don't have like power and lights, but you don't hear that as much anymore. I I feel like it's a place where, yeah, it might be free, but then it also is gonna be like, well, what are we gonna import? Who are we gonna import with? What do we I feel like there's a lot of things?

SPEAKER_05 26:45

It becomes a new Hawaii, it would it's gonna become a total vacation.

SPEAKER_11 26:48

But Trump has been threatening to like go after Cuba. He's like after this Iran thing, we're going to cute after Cuba next. So he's been kind of threatening to like go after Cuba.

SPEAKER_05 26:57

That'd be it. I mean, we got a lot of people. Perhaps I mean, I don't know. I heard from I talked to a came off the boat literally when he was a kid, the whole thing, and he's just he started crying for me, but they're still living like shit, they still have a horrible situation there where they're all crowded in a hot room. The car he says the power's off half the day.

SPEAKER_14 27:13

I know.

SPEAKER_05 27:14

Fuck.

SPEAKER_14 27:15

Yeah, I mean that that's why Scarface jot jumped off and went on a boat back in you know the 80s.

SPEAKER_05 27:21

Yeah, and when they arrive, they have citizenship or something. Like there's something different about their immigration, too. He was telling me, I didn't know that. He said it's different. And so there, I guess between them and Latinos who come from Mexico, is like there's like a kind of a it's kind of like a Mexico. That's me jumping into it.

SPEAKER_14 27:37

Were you up late for Cinco de Mayo last night or something?

SPEAKER_05 27:41

Is it Cinco de Mayo? It is, yeah. My birthday this weekend, guys. We gotta talk about that too. But we should talk about what my birthday this weekend. Oh, that's true. That's coming up, yeah. Mother's Day, you know, that's means of my birthday, you know. Yeah, no, so it's good.

SPEAKER_11 27:54

Yeah, maybe Mother of a Techie, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 27:56

Um yeah, Columbia's a pro they're progressive. I like them. I think as a nation, they seem to always be Mother Humpty Numpty.

SPEAKER_14 28:04

Yeah, that's what it does.

SPEAKER_11 28:06

Yeah. Uh second one is jury finds Meta liable for knownly harming children's mental health and misleading public about the safety of Instagram and Facebook. New Mexico became the first state to win a jury trial against tech the giant the tech giant, ordering it to pay $375 million in civil penalties. I mean, I I think this is, you know, I mean that's not much, but I feel like that's an acknowledgement of you know holding these big tech companies accountable as far as their inf massive influence. And I'm hoping in the future this does, you know, create some more guardrails when it comes to you know the children. And you know, we see what we did what's happening with the children's Roblox, you know, there's no protection but them on there. They have accessibility to pedos and with Discord. So this I think is setting a good precipice to hold these tech counties, you know, companies accountable for such things when it comes to our children.

SPEAKER_05 28:50

So I've always thought Mark was like a CIA robot. I mean, he doesn't seem like a real person. I think he's an omnobot, so I don't even know what he is, but um I can't believe Facebook would be so bold to make so many experiments on people, you know. But from what I understand, according to my brother, Facebook originally was for one reason to collect the face of every human being in the United States. CIA to have every face on record. And you notice how they had facial recognition and then it went away? It's because they got everyone.

SPEAKER_14 29:14

Yeah, the day the program ended in the CIA for for what then became Facebook was the same day that Mark Zuckerberg like filed it under Facebook, right? And the other thing though I want to say though is that people have to kind of take, I think, a little bit more responsibility, right? Like when it comes to alcohol, when it comes to all these things, like they don't get sued like that all the time, and and the damages that are done. Plus, there's you know, you you gotta read the terms of service, like you're agreeing for them to they they have all their warnings, like this could happen in there, right? So, like the the one thing about this case is it's civil, it's not criminal, and so it's going to appeals, right? And we'll probably lose because of all the the the laws that we put in place at the beginning of the internet to protect tech companies from like why would it be my responsibility for it's not like Mark Zuckerberg going in there and making a pedophile go talk to his kid, right? The person's kid. It it it like you can't, as an owner, control what people use with a platform that big, sure, right? And you can put every guardrail you want in, and somebody's gonna find a way through. And I'm and that's because I'm a tech person and I know those laws, and and it's funny because people have been trying to get rid of those laws, but then they don't realize like all of the dreams that we make, all these cool things with all of us, creators, all of it, would all go away and we'd be sued for what we said on the internet. And so I actually don't like this. I think it's horrible. I think it's like you know, like countries are banning social media. I think that would be more of like a better way because people can't do it themselves, like their parents, like parents are using social media iPads and iPhones because they don't want to be around their kid so that they can be on their device for themselves. That's what the newest study shows.

SPEAKER_06 31:02

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_14 31:03

So it's like so how weird is that? It's kind of like, oh, like you're a crack addict, I'm gonna make you a crack addict, so you're doing crack while I'm doing crack.

SPEAKER_11 31:10

Right. But I think I think this just sets a tone for like just holding you these companies more accountable for certain guardrails. That's how I see it, right? Um, and like some certain things, like I was saying before, like Roblox is just open, kids go on and like adults, there should be a little more parameters, like exist, you know. I always felt instead for a long time where there needs to be some sort of like identity check or a face check when you're joining these kind of large platforms for children, make sure they're not underage. I think we talked about before doing some sort of facial scan, just little things like that to set the tone and bring awareness to the fact of how these things could be harmful to kids and their mental health. Do I believe in banning of social media? Hell no, of course not. I think we still need it, but I think setting certain guardrails is important, you know.

SPEAKER_05 31:47

What I've said is the CIA, the CIA made Facebook and they're allowing these lawsuits to break it down so that there's no evidence afterwards. This is just like them experimenting on us with acid in the 60s, you know. Now it's on it's it's been in social media. Now they gotta figure it all out, they're gonna put it in other devices. That's really what I think. I know it's kind of dark, but that's what I'm coming to.

SPEAKER_14 32:03

No, I think you're right. That's why you've seen meta move into so many different industries, right? And then buy you know, Oculus, and then oh, they're putting it all into meta AI now, and they got rid of the metaverse because that wasn't a big thing, but they just keep moving the money, and that's what happens, and then they just do this kind of stuff to dilute, like, hey, what do you mean? And they've changed company names, it's meta, it's not Facebook anymore, right? It's not cell phones, not Google. The big thing that actually is happening right now with Meta, and it starts on the 18th, is they have or it's on starting on the 8th, right before your birthday, the day before. So it's in a couple days. Everybody has to think should you delete every message you've ever done on Instagram because encryption's being taken off, and now they have full access to read everything you've ever written messages unless you delete every message that you've ever sent on Instagram. That's coming in like three days.

SPEAKER_05 32:55

Why is that happening? Why is that happening?

SPEAKER_14 32:57

I think it's happening because now this gives Meta AI full capability to understand how humans communicate in the most ridiculous way.

SPEAKER_11 33:08

Yeah, I did some of the data. Full access, yeah. I always anytime I send a message on social media, I'm always thinking that someone's gonna view it. I always think that way. I never just go free balling on social media. I'm like, no, I'm expecting it's gonna be come up somewhere in the future. So I've always kind of tiptoed around that.

SPEAKER_14 33:24

Well, I don't do that when it comes to like really funny reels, but that's I wouldn't post publicly though. Of course, of course, but that's what they're like wanting to do too. Yeah, I mean, so I'm gonna delete every message, and I I'm somebody who keeps every message, like I have every text message the same way, but when it comes to this, I'm like, you know what? Not working.

SPEAKER_05 33:47

Not me, not me. It's a phone number every year, guys. Like it's like I'm like always resetting. I've been I was worried about the first email back in the 89 that I didn't watch over both. I was swear to god, I swear to god, you guys can't give up how many phone numbers you have for me, right? Because I'm just like there goes the record, I'm just gonna make it messy as hell so you can't track it. I think honestly, and I've said this to everyone Gmail, especially like anything Google, consider it in you know, in the in the board. Yeah, unless you're in workspace in that board, yeah.

SPEAKER_14 34:14

What's that unless you have a Google workspace because then you pay and then they don't look at anything because it's corporate. That's the secret, though, is if you're a corporation, other corporations will treat you like gold and not do that shit. But if you're a person to a corporation, right?

SPEAKER_05 34:30

I think it's because corporations are like cowboys, they know they'll fucking kill each other. Like they're like, don't done.

SPEAKER_14 34:34

Well, and you have to go to you have to go to corporate court and get corporate lawyers in order to sue corporation to corporation. So you can't, as an individual, go sue a corporation and without going to a corporate court with a corporate lawyer.

SPEAKER_11 34:47

Yeah. Hmm. Next story. Well, third third title is uh Dr. Stephen Greer is preparing a high-profile press conference on May 8th to celebrate 25 years since his first brought military and government whistleblowers to the public. Uh, the event will focus on illegal secrecy, advanced energy technologies, and recent claims about non-human intelligence.

SPEAKER_14 35:08

And television or what no, he does it at the press club in Washington, D.C.

SPEAKER_05 35:12

I mean non-human intelligence. Um, that's funny. Well, good for him, by the way, for still being number one as far as the press is concerned. He's been this role for like, I don't know how many years now.

SPEAKER_14 35:21

Yeah, he's over 30. He's definitely been like, especially since the early 90s, really hardcore, like into it and working with presidents and so forth and military members. He did one that was really big a couple years ago. I think this one could get more press than ever because he really kind of found his groove and he got the people, the whistleblowers, to come out and talk about their stories on the last couple ones that were really good. And with this being like the hot topic of like the century of the universe of our lives, I feel like he's he could get some more. But the last time I said that, and I thought that it, you know, most people didn't watch it. I think that's what's kind of some people, I think, are afraid to listen to the actual stories from real whistleblowers, and actually for 25-year anniversary, he's gonna bring out the the people and the stuff that have remained secret for a long time because right now there's this whole like people coming out over the last couple years, right? That have always stayed secret for their lives. So I think we definitely should pay attention to it.

SPEAKER_11 36:22

I think so too, because there's a lot of like old videos they used to have of whistleblowers that have been scrubbed. Like I the what the woman who worked in geoengineering and she talked about how she quit because you know the whole chemtrails and how it's like really you know bad for human health. Like I had those saved and they're just gone. You can find it anywhere. Like they completely scrubbed it. So I think we should be paying attention, you know, to you know, this presentation for sure. Um, and hopefully we'll recycle some of the things that that were available to us that maybe we could become available to us again, you know, because they're not anymore. But they scrubbed a lot of shit from whistleblowers on the internet that I can't find anymore.

SPEAKER_05 36:59

Yeah, it's gone.

SPEAKER_14 37:01

Yeah, and actually, he's the only one who actually knows how to structure and get these people together and to actually have them speak. And it's actually pretty emotional because it's not easy. Some of the experiences are uh more on the military side and the dark side of the government, the shadow government, and these people being like abused in the most like we think of abuse and it's really bad. Then these people take it to next level, like it's and so when they talk to stuff, you can tell these people are broken and they have the courage to go up there and say it. And that's what gets me is like you can't fake that, like you can't hack that. These are employees of the programs you're saying, or these are yeah, like some of these dark shadow programs, and then working with some of these military contractors, like these people that accidentally walk into the wrong room, or they got assigned to it, and then start seeing stuff and then question something, right? Or they're part of a program of testing something, and the next thing you know, there's a UFO over them, and it's doing all the things that we heard about in National Inquiry for all the years, those stories are probably more true than not.

SPEAKER_11 38:11

Probably, probably, probably. But I also think it's crazy. No, I was just saying, I just don't think that it's still implementing like MK Ultra. You know, still even to this day, I feel like they're still implementing that on and the civilization on on people who work for the government, you know, the things that people have seen things, so you know, and I think they have more accessibility into how to control the minds of people through frequency and technology.

SPEAKER_05 38:31

So, but you were saying, Christopher, you know, you about to say I was saying that Ronald Reagan and Nancy Reagan allegedly got abducted one one California afternoon when they were driving back from a conference in California, they were missing for a few hours. Like a story that uh always compelled me because I always thought, is that our government or the aliens paper? What you know, who who got that one?

SPEAKER_14 38:48

But apparently we've been we've been after being president or during or when he was uh governor.

SPEAKER_05 38:54

Yes.

SPEAKER_14 38:55

So that's where he got Make America Great Again, because let's not forget that was actually Reagan's slogan. Right.

SPEAKER_05 39:00

That's where he got Star Wars from. Remember, you want to have missiles in space? He was afraid of he was afraid of them. He was legit afraid.

SPEAKER_14 39:05

Well, and I mean Joan Quigley to be the astrologer for seven years in the White House and choose every plane ride, everything from Air Force One, everything like after his shot.

SPEAKER_05 39:14

So yeah, yeah, but then there's talk like Greer's people and deeper, you know, deeper say that there's an American uh version of our dark ops that act like aliens and dress up as aliens and like come down and abduct our people as if they were abducted by aliens and maybe all the people.

SPEAKER_14 39:29

That's what Stephen Greer's some of their whistleblowers that do that and were part of that come out and say that, and then there's the other the other people who know about what's actually what the government is hiding. That it's almost like the government's trying to fight these forces over like wanting to stay control over humans, and there's there's actually good aliens trying to break us out of that.

SPEAKER_11 39:50

So man, David Icke has been ahead of all this too for a long time, he's been like forward with this for such a long time.

SPEAKER_14 39:58

Um he plays victim every day on the internet. Like, why did Alex Jones on it? Why does Joe Rogan not have me on? And blah blah blah blah. It's like that's not how you're gonna get people uh you're whining, yeah.

SPEAKER_11 40:10

Right, right. Um, next headline is the House. Uh am I on the right one? Yeah, the Center Josh uh Hawley's Guard Act passed a Judiciary Committee 22 to 0, aiming to protect children from harmful AI chat box interactions. The legislation would require age checks, potentially using government ID or facial scans, uh, before users can access certain AI services. Um, I mean, again, that should be done in other you know, environments that kids are on now, I believe, you know, to a certain degree. I mean, we're gonna go into the whole privacy thing too, about like they're they've been scanning out faces for a long time. Going to Walmart, they have the freaking you know, screens detecting your faces, they've already got your faces. But if we could do something to, you know, at least to navigate how children have accessibility to these things, I think that'd be you know smart. No more full screen.

SPEAKER_05 40:55

It's only admitting here that AI could take over our children. We're not even talking about it. You know, like this is a pretty much like, oh, yeah, it could. I mean, if television could, then AI certainly can't. Of course.

SPEAKER_14 41:04

Well, the number one cause is it creates psychosis, especially if these kids really don't understand human interaction well yet, right? I know. I mean, if I would have had a chat bot back then, the AI chat I had was what? A I M. How funny. It came out in 1997. We just had the like another CIA company the 29th anniversary of it last week. And it's like at least I knew there was another human on the other side because I would actually talk to them on the phone. I get their phone number and then we would send pictures in the mail. Right. I did that too. Like, you know what I mean? Whereas with the chatbot, what's happening is these kids that are young are killing, they're they're unaliving themselves, right? Because they're they're they're they're not talking to their parents, they're putting it all into the chat bot, and then the chat bot is like, Yeah, you you probably should if it's especially a custom one that somebody made that didn't have the guardrails, which is actually guardrails are fully impossible, but you can put them in as much as you can. The only guardrails really to make sure you are over 16 or 18 or whatever it is. But you know, 16-year-olds walking into a strip club, right? They check your ID. Okay, you know what I mean? Right, right.

unknown 42:13

Right.

SPEAKER_14 42:14

Well, um, I had a good fake ID, too, you know.

SPEAKER_05 42:17

The baby brothers and sisters of these kids that get brainwashed won't get brainwashed. They'll watch the brothers and they're like, What the fuck? They'll they'll see it right away. I mean, it lasts about one generation, that kind of thing.

SPEAKER_11 42:25

You know, I just to me, it's just another another way to to negatively influence the youth, you know. I'm saying a lot of them are anxiety, so they're on like psych drugs. Then we have another aspect that can influence kids and their thinking, and you know, and about your accessibility. So again, I just feel like this this poor these poor younger generations are so infiltrated, you know. Um, and I just you know it's it's tough to me when I think about these younger generations and that, you know.

SPEAKER_14 42:49

Well, they already have a bad addiction to video games. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So then now you're adding a chatbot that's even more instant. So the dopamine level is extreme, and then it's also this bonding experience. So then it's like what I'm seeing right now is that AI bots are being put in televisions. Like, I just got a new TV and just went through divorce, right? It has a full chatbot in the TV to like hi David. What challenge? I don't use it because like I'm old school and I know how to like set up my shit nice, but like I can't believe that they have an AI chatbot to like set up your TV. Like, oh, you want this done and you want that setting and you want this? I'm like, wait, what? So, like, I think video games is gonna be the place in this year you're gonna start to see chatbots pop up, and these kids are already addicted, and then they're gonna be on that in the game.

SPEAKER_11 43:36

I agree. The in the whole instantaneous thing is what's really you know concerning about it. Like, I get an instant answer, instant response, an instant interaction, it's to this, it's that. And it's so so vapid, you know. So I I that we are the ones that need to be in control and and and kind of leading with this because right now I don't think our generation is really helping to lead with these sorts of things. These kids are just kind of getting lost and swooped up in this you know digital you know vortex. And you know, I think it's we need to be more aggressive, I would say, with these sorts of things.

SPEAKER_14 44:05

So that's like it's a two-part approach. I think it's the we need to have the guardrails, but then I think parents need to have way more responsibility. I don't, I'm not on my phone. It's been a very good experience when I'm with both my kids. I'm like, okay, like I'm with them. And it's like all day, and it's like, I know I got work emails, I know I got this, but it's like, oh, it's actually kind of nice to let that go.

SPEAKER_11 44:27

Right. But that's what I mean.

SPEAKER_14 44:28

Like, we have that's what the study show.

SPEAKER_11 44:30

Yeah, we have to be here's your iPad, I want to be on mine, right? Right, and that's we have to be more aggressive with that because I see a family at you know at a dinner table and the kids are on the iPads, the parents on the phones, like, but you're the one creating this fucking shit, and so we have to be more aggressive with that and know the times for it and stop teaching our kids this stuff, you know. Um, but it's again it starts at home, right? We can bring the home.

SPEAKER_05 44:53

They fight you every step of the way. The kid, you know, it's like, nope, a little time off. I mean, this is like, oh, you get tired of fighting with your kid, like, fine, take it, be brainwashed, I don't care. We get to that point because they won't stop, they're so addicted already. Seriously.

SPEAKER_14 45:05

Well, that's why I snuck in, you know, like my well, I had a phone line in my room and and and I fucking was on the internet all night, but like I didn't back then, people weren't like, Oh, that's gonna be a problem. It's like, right, how fast is my HTML page loading? You know, it's taking forever.

SPEAKER_11 45:21

Or just like it's the long how long it takes to like download that like picture, like in about that time. We waited. By the time it's done, you have your orgasm already. You know what I mean? So now it's already taken.

SPEAKER_14 45:32

What do you mean you have to wait like 12 hours just to get like a two-minute video of whatever ideepthroat.com of Heather.

SPEAKER_11 45:39

That's so funny. Uh the final the last uh headline we have here is multiple sources claim President Trump and DNI director of national intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, have held discussions about granting a full pardon to uh WikiLeaks founder, Julian Assange. Uh, the reports have sparked widespread speculation about possible uh clemency for Assange.

SPEAKER_05 45:56

So um there's one more after that, too. We're gonna talk about it.

SPEAKER_11 46:00

I mean, do you want to just go into the second sixth one now?

SPEAKER_05 46:02

Well, this last one here with him. I think he I thought from the beginning he was gonna get off with uh, you know, get away from the stuff. I did too. Probably get him off, yeah. I did too.

SPEAKER_14 46:10

I'm a little worried because I feel like um, you know, he exposed the deepest secrets of our being spied upon and many other issues, right? But I think that Trump's looking at it as an advantage because one of the bigger things is the whole Hillary Clinton Foundation and her emails, right? That all was WikiLeaks. And I think that the way that they're setting everything up right now to go after things, it's like, oh, there's probably gonna have to be some sort of handshake, right? Like you get clemency, but you gotta like give us that's exactly right that documents, and maybe you need to testify to Congress about some of the things. Yeah, there's a we'll give you we'll give you your we'll give you your restorative of your reputation again. We'll give you this, but you need to be focused on these parts of the story the most, yeah.

SPEAKER_11 46:56

Yeah, it's a way to gain control and get and have more influence with it. So that's why I feel like the where the pardon really came from, you know.

SPEAKER_14 47:02

Yeah, but I think he has stuff about the 2020 election that never came out, and that's where Tulsi Gabber and Trump right now are hitting Atlanta, right? Like a month two months ago, and then that's all gonna be coming up. So I think you know, because that guy knows the sources, that guy knows how to get it. So yeah, interesting.

SPEAKER_05 47:22

He's been playing a very dangerous game. I thought he was cocoo, you know, like it looked like they pushed him over. When I saw him come out of that last place, he just looked so bad, I was like, man, they got to him. He's he's a just you know, he's not gonna have any faculties left. But sounds like he's bouncing back if they're worried about it.

SPEAKER_14 47:36

That guy's tenacious as hell. I mean, that guy's held himself up in an embassy in the United Kingdom in Libyan for all those years, dude. Like that guy has been through a lot. That's true. That's true.

SPEAKER_11 47:53

So we'll go out of the commercial, we'll get back to our topic when we get back, right?

SPEAKER_05 47:57

Yeah, sounds good.

SPEAKER_11 47:59

Good job.

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SPEAKER_11 48:47

Oh shit. Sorry. Um, yeah, tomorrow going live. I thought there was something else coming after that. Uh tomorrow I'm doing my live show, as always. I'm doing on the war on consciousness, and we'll also talk about a little bit about psychic warfare and and the modalities that create such interference with consciousness and our psyche and so forth. And I'm also doing live readings as well. Like I do every Thursday night at 6 p.m. Pacific time, 9 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. Join me on my channel tomorrow, guys.

SPEAKER_05 49:10

Crazy. We did the wallpaper back here, man. It was like kind of psychedelic there. Really clever there.

SPEAKER_14 49:16

Yeah, psychedelic honeycomb.

SPEAKER_11 49:18

Yeah, that's exactly what it was like, all right. So, what's our topic? Are we talking about the currency of self-love, right? We have no bullet points in that, but we can shoot the shit on it.

SPEAKER_05 49:27

Well, actually, he was just talking about another topic that was gonna blow up blow up everything, wasn't it, David? You were gonna talk about it, or should we do it?

SPEAKER_14 49:33

I mean, I think this is like one of the crazier stories for sure. That there's all kinds of framing that they talked with government officials because we know that Trump has made the executive order to release and declassify all UAP alien stuff, right? Right, that they're preparing pastors that the stuff that's gonna come out is gonna say that you need to start telling all of your people at church because they're gonna be asking questions like, what do you mean the Bible's not real? But also there's this concept that they're that the aliens are our gods that created us, which that could be kind of untrue. But then there I think this has been my biggest prediction for years, right? That this exact event would happen. So for me, I'm like, okay, this is real, but I think that there's gonna be discernment that's gonna need to be found. I think that it's gonna get a little it's gonna get really messy because I think if you think about this whole Iran war, it's not about oil or a nuclear bomb, it's a it's a religious war. And I think now you get this to throw that all in, and then you get 70% of the population of the world is religious, right? It's like we're 75% of all the major religions, yeah. Throw all that on its head. What's gonna happen? That those people are all their whole basic identity is based off that.

SPEAKER_05 51:03

We say that, but how many people cheat in church? They don't even go anymore. Like, I don't know. Like, I'm kind of I'm a real question mark about it.

SPEAKER_11 51:09

But subconsciously, people are so reliant upon the idea of Christianity and then whatever religion, and this is what I've been talking about about you know, the the crutches, is this is releasing the crutches. This is part of that with the religion collapsing. I think the information will create a lot of inconsistencies with religion, just like you know, dinosaurs create inconsistencies with uh with Christianity. So I just think a lot of this is gonna put a lot of cracks in a lot of these ideologies. Um, and so I I always felt the aliens assisted in placing us here, the human species. So I never quite felt like the human species really belonged on planet Earth. I feel like we were placed here, so there might be information about that too, but um, but there's I think there's different dynamics to that. Not that there are gods, it could be some you know those who've helped us to to lead humanity to leave the human species, but we still have an overall source, you know. So I just feel like it's a lot gonna be more inconsistencies toward the religion that's gonna come out, um, structure of things, existence, and all that stuff, you know.

SPEAKER_05 52:04

I think religion is like alien AI that was put on human beings to keep them in a mind game. You know, I think I've said that before. It's alien AI. We're you know, when people talk about alien AI now, I think it's a subconscious knows you've been under it, it's called Christianity. You know, it's like yeah a long time because it's just guilty in yourself and makes you feel bad. Like that's brilliant, really brilliant uh strategizing and making a person feel bad, guilty for the rest of their life. But I do believe that I mean I I've heard the stories from angels, from angel readers, from channelers, and it's a it's consistent that the angels and this couple of groups of aliens deliberately came down and screwed with the genetics to deliberately create a human race out of the 12 chromosomes from this, you know. You hear the story. We are created literally by aliens who were more sophisticated at genetics than we were, and it's it's a scientific sophistication, but there's also a spiritual like blow the spirit into the thing, I think, also where the spirit's like allowed to incarnate into that.

SPEAKER_11 52:54

But I don't and I don't want people to get to you know blend in the fact of being human with the soul purpose because the soul's a soul, we're the human species, just like a car we incarnate. Oh, I'm gonna play that game, right? And so yeah, we can talk about how the aliens have derived it. That's not our god, though, maybe the the leader of the in a sense, but we're soul, we know we're incarnating. So, and just as we evolve our soul consciousness, we can create dimensionalities in other worlds ourselves as we you know ascend. So I'm sure we'll create a different game that souls incarnate too. So I think people tend to associate too much with the human species in relation to this where the soul derives from. And it's not, we're just hopping in a vehicle, a vessel, just to experience a certain reality, a certain world, like a video game, right, Christopher?

SPEAKER_05 53:33

Yeah, totally like a video game. In fact, I've heard if you go to you know go to heaven, you ask, Does God exist? They go, We don't know. So even in heaven, they don't know. It's it's uh they know they're all here, they know we keep incarnating, and we know it all works, but we don't quite know where the guy went, you know, and that's for love levels up. That's a that's the answer. So so it really goes deeper than we think. We think it's just earth is talking with the question, but no, I guess everyone is.

SPEAKER_14 53:55

And I think these pastors have a translation issue, right? Because of the way that their frame of God and their frame of things are. So they're gonna hear this information and go automatically to they're trying to say that the aliens are our gods. That I think that's probably more of a translation issue of like a pastor who had knows nothing about this crap and hearing this stuff. And that's gonna be the problem, though. I think that that's the irony, is maybe the government just proved the problem, right? Like if a if a pastor can't even understand this, and then that's what they're putting out, and then today on Newsweek, the one of the pastors is like, Hey, don't listen to what I said fully. Um, because I might have not, you know, I don't really know how to say all this stuff. And he kind of did a little backtrack, probably because like the White House is like, yo, bro, like you're already like releasing the stuff too quick. But I do think that we have to remember, like, what if it's like I think I agree with with with both both of you, but I think like with Scott, I agree, especially with like we were placed here, like the only species on this planet that like builds a house to not be in nature, right? Childbirth is the hardest situation for a woman where every other animal is just plopping babies out like no problem, like it's not a big deal. Like, like we're not like from here, but does that mean that we're the aliens? And so, or maybe some of us are aliens, you know. Like, I think that's gonna be the bigger thing is like where do the roots of humanity start from? What does that look like?

SPEAKER_05 55:24

It sounds like our government's creating problems too. You go to all the evangelicals and you say, Hey, you got a problem, there's a new God coming. I mean, that sounds like a poking of the fire, first of all. And I think it's because our government is actually in trouble with the aliens, they're supposed to give us a whole bunch of shit and they didn't, and they're gonna be told out, called out on them when they land. So I think they're I think our own government's gonna try to put up a smoke screen.

SPEAKER_11 55:42

Well, of course. I mean, and we're talking about also religious pastors uh misinterpreting things. Hmm, I haven't heard that before, you know. Yeah, I've never heard that before. But you know, but I also think that a lot of us have connections with certain extraterrestrial civilizations that we are stemming from. I think a lot of us maybe were part of these you know alien civilizations that we chose to learn more about. You know, I'd say planet Earth is a very social planet. We learn about emotion, expressing emotion. Everything too is is social and emotionally oriented. So I think that's what this planet was divided uh designed for. And I think some a lot of us maybe uh do have you know lineage to certain extraterrestrial you know civilizations to where we perfect the game to learn about that, you know.

SPEAKER_05 56:21

So I have no clue yet. Oh, really? Of course. I know I came from serious. You're from Venus. No, I was serious. I had serious cool things come. Yeah, it was serious for sure. I mean, that's why you're my company after it and all this kind of shit.

SPEAKER_11 56:35

But like uh yeah, it always all that shit. I'm from that, yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I yeah I'm gonna do more deep diving into that though, more of that my lineage with that.

SPEAKER_05 56:46

It came to me. I mean, just so you know, like like every past lifting it. I was like, oh really, oh that's why I named my company that. You know, it came to me that way, but then I started having memories. It's funny, you can't make the shift up. Once you accept the idea it's possible, then your brain opens up the vault, like that's what happens, and then suddenly I I've I have legit visions. I'm like, I know I didn't request that, you know. Um, so you'll see for yourselves, everyone. It just opens up naturally. Curiosity goes a long way.

SPEAKER_14 57:11

I was gonna say the AI code that you said, Chris.

SPEAKER_05 57:14

I mean, the the Bible is like prompts, yes, it is prompts, it's like it's like a code base. The Ten Commandments are the 10 prompts, right?

SPEAKER_14 57:21

And it's all the way that it's written is actually how you would like look at different kinds of different coding. The irony, too, is that the council of Nicaea back in 325 AD, right? Like Constantine was a Roman, right? He was the Roman emperor, but he was into soul, right? The sun, he was into the sun. So the whole idea of the way Christianity was formed was based off. Well, we need to prop up a god like Zeus, we'll make it monotheistic, so get rid of all these gods and make it one and make it the sun. Oh, okay, like Jesus is perfect, and then his mom went to go find the true cross that he was crucifixted on, but they couldn't know because there were so many different crosses. So she just had all the sickest people that were to their death go in lines and touch a cross and waited till one touched and got better. And then she claimed that was the true cross. So the cross that people follow today that they think it is, is all based off some hoopla, and she was probably an alien, right? Like, you know what I mean? Like, and she had an Etsy store that she really wanted to get done to get the true cross out, so she just got all the sickest people. I feel like it's like watching this horrible reality show with these fucked up people, and all these people believe it, right? Like, oh, so like Constantine's mom just never could sell anything on Etsy, so she just went to Jerusalem, she found the the a bunch of crosses, got the sickest people that touch it, and waited till one of them said, I feel a little better, and then croaked and died, and then they went, That's a true cross.

SPEAKER_11 58:50

Have you guys seen the have you seen Zeitgeist? You see that documentary? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like it's uh the religion's basically model of like the 12 planets and the sun, basically, just like disciples, and so the the i ideology, it's like really kind of religious really talking about astrology, actually. You know, is is it theory?

SPEAKER_05 59:08

Well, I think you deliberately do that, so you just take it all over, you know. So it's like you guys have 12 planets, you know, they were just trying to take over the the conscious real estate there, and it works. Right. People just start associating it. Um, yeah.

SPEAKER_11 59:19

So it's a it's a redirect, it's definitely a redirect, but you know, I but again, I think again, a lot of that's gonna be I've I've wrote a blog about this like 10 years ago about you know financial systems collapsing, the religious aspects collapsing, celebrity culture collapsing, you know, during this age. And so I'm not surprised that religion is being out, especially with the hypocrisy you see now with religious and Christian nationalism. Like you just see the hypocrisy and like they're just spoon-fed. And so um it's become very apparent. And people have been actively challenging Christianity that's that they never had before, you know, which is people just shut up. Well, it says in the Bible, okay. They shut up now. People are actually actively challenging that.

SPEAKER_14 59:52

But at the same time, it's the high like it it it dipped in to the lowest numbers in the 2010s, then COVID happened, and then now it's gaining every year, and so people like are they they felt lost, so they just went there. Like everybody who goes to jail or as an alcoholic and then goes to AA and then they gone into an AA pod with and then they didn't need to go through the 12 steps, which is all biblical, right?

SPEAKER_11 1:00:17

But like but but you could see this too, David. Like the people who say they're Christians, curse, smoke weed, it's like, oh yeah, I'm a Christian, they just adapted that label because of security reasons, you know. But I I want to say too, because Christians, what they were 15 years ago, are not what people say Christians are today. Like they still go out and club in and booty dancing and stuff like that, and they say they're Christian. But for me, just to kind of close this segment up, I feel that religion has been implemented to keep we incarnated for a reason. We need things to keep us grounded so we don't just float away and forget about our karmic purpose. So these things are designed to keep us grounded in physical reality, you know, to keep us saturated, to keep us you know confined. So I think if we're still incarnated, we just remembered that we're stole, we just like, oh, I don't like this life. I'll I'll you know take myself out and and move on. These things put pressure on us for reasons so we can evolve, understand where we stand emotionally, and so and how we find our way through it. So I think though that's why these programs have been implemented in this matrix.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:09

Yeah, this thing is alien because you you introduce into a creative being the idea that they're not good and they're a sinner, and they'll just run with that creatively. Yeah, brilliant manipulation. So it's like what it did was it turned ourselves against ourselves, is what it did.

SPEAKER_14 1:01:22

You know, well, it became a uh a narcissistic um uh safe haven, right? Because after being such a piece of crap, having no empathy, well, now look at God forgives me for my sins, right? Right, and I can go in here and everybody will like me again. So actually, there's a couple studies over the 70s and 80s, and they're redoing some deeper dives that the highest amount of narcissistic people end up in churches because that and then fall into the religion because it gives them that like, well, God forgives me, and I'm a piece of crap human, and I don't care about people, I only care about myself, but like I'm forgiven, and you need to forgive me for what I did. Yeah, which is actually like what Timothy Leary really kind of found through all the psychedelic stuff, and like seeing that, like, okay, it was kind of nice being around people that wanted to be spiritual, but a lot of people weren't and felt that on psychedelics, so they just didn't go to churches, they just were like, Oh, it's kind of nice that it's spiritual, but it's connected in all parts of our life. Our birth certificate used to be through the church that when you were when you were baptized, that was a birth certificate. Now marriage is institutionalized, so really it's about separation of church and state, and we we actually did not follow that because all the monasteries of all the churches that's where you that was the DMV of the old days. And what did we create?

SPEAKER_05 1:02:44

No religion has taken over the government, thank God, though.

SPEAKER_11 1:02:46

But Christopher, let's let's do this backstage. Let's do it backstage, and I can even share with you my uh trauma experience within the Christian church, the cult that was in, the stuff that I went through. We can share with us at backstage. But um, but yeah, let's close this out here. And those who are watching who have memberships, get your membership now. If you want to see more of us backstage or discuss this backstage, there should be a QR card on the screen. If Morgan will put it up there, scan that QR code, please make it your monthly membership and join the conversation backstage with us.

SPEAKER_14 1:03:11

Yep. Enchanted.now. Now there it is.

SPEAKER_11 1:03:18

Well, see you guys on the flip side. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:20

See you on the bubble here in a second on the song. Here we are. There we go.

SPEAKER_11 1:03:29

The code is right over David's face.

SPEAKER_14 1:03:31

Yeah, I have been blasted by AI.

SPEAKER_11 1:03:36

Yeah, it's a David code.

SPEAKER_14 1:03:39

This is your Bible. What's hidden behind the code? Like somebody that's doing this. Hey, listen. Listen to the code.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:47

The alternative.

SPEAKER_11 1:03:49

Yeah, we got a good community of people that signed up, which is nice. We do.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:52

People are showing up too.

SPEAKER_14 1:04:02

Well, yeah, I'm glad that you have some stories to share, Scott, because I do too. Awesome.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:07

All right. What's your favorite story to do?

SPEAKER_10 1:04:10

Bible thought.

SPEAKER_15 1:04:30

Hey, what's up? I'm Leo King, celebrity astrologer David Palmer. And you might be asking yourself, what is a celebrity astrologer? Am I an astrologer and do I do astrology just for celebrities?

SPEAKER_14 1:04:42

You know, being a celebrity astrologer is about embodying a lot. Not only being an astrologer and, of course, doing readings for celebrities, but it's about connecting the astrologer aspect to the media, to the world.

SPEAKER_15 1:04:55

You know, embodying the model part of myself or the TV personality that I've been in my life to connect to this 21st century and to connect to this new world with social media and with television.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:06

And Hollywood is tapping into the spirit world through Psychics. Celebrities want to find their power of self. Untold with Maria Menunos, tonight at 8 Connie.

SPEAKER_15 1:05:17

Especially, astrologers have been around for thousands of years on royal courts. They've been doing it for kings and queens. I mean, bringing the astrologer back into society. It's almost like being an astrologer has been axed out and we've been kind of put into our own little weird world. And I think that it's very important to utilize, you know, all the aspects of connecting to what we think of celebrity and pop culture and bringing these ancient science practices and all this wisdom to the mainstream world.

SPEAKER_13 1:05:49

And that's why you know building a studio like this here at the Leo King Studios and High Vibe Studios has been part of it to be able to create my own networks, to create my own content.

SPEAKER_15 1:05:58

And a tourist is gonna have. Worth and be a little bougie like you, and it will work out. You can't go with a cheap person or somebody who doesn't know their worth. Guys who don't have self-worth is your biggest turn on.

SPEAKER_12 1:06:07

That is! If you're not a confident man, get to step it. I can't do. I can't do.

SPEAKER_14 1:06:13

And then as time went by, I went on another big reality show called ABC True Beauty, and I went on and I said, you know what? I'm gonna tell the world I'm an astrologer. It's time. It's time to really own this. Because you have to remember being an astrologer is a little scary. You have uh religious people who think you're the devil, and then you have the scientific community who think you're schizophrenic.

SPEAKER_13 1:06:35

So there's this element of dealing with this aloneness in many ways, of like having to have the courage to follow what a lot of people think is a belief, kind of like religion, which it's not.

SPEAKER_14 1:06:47

Astrology is a bridge between the spiritual and the science energy and bringing them together.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:54

And celebrity astrologer David Palmer, who is also known as Leo King. I like that, Leo King. So, David, welcome to the show. Hey, thanks for having me on. That was amazing reading that you gave, man. What what what information does someone learn uh from a reading?

SPEAKER_15 1:07:14

What I'm trying to show people is that it's all divine.

SPEAKER_13 1:07:17

There's divine timing in life, there's divine synchronicities, and I help people see that when they were born so they can align and understand their life better. And it's good for helping people with knowing how to go down the right roads and not the wrong roads in life because we have that choice.

SPEAKER_08 1:07:34

Celebrity astrologer David Palmer, also known as the Leo King, is back with us. So his astrology guide is a hot best seller right now on Amazon. We talked earlier about um the modern approach to the age of practice of astrology. So now let's look into the future. So, David, what does the future hold for us? You said in our last segment, this week's gonna be a big one.

SPEAKER_15 1:07:56

This week's news. We got a Mercury retrograde coming in Pisces, which makes things really confusing. At the same time, the planet Uranus is gonna come into Taurus, like it did in 1934, which was like the rise of Hitler, the total change in hull, all the agreements with the world and world power shifting. But the big thing is President Trump, he's got a pretty intense situation going on in his life.

SPEAKER_13 1:08:18

A lot of people look at it whether it's from the government and the court stuff that's going on, or whether or not he's colluded.

SPEAKER_15 1:08:24

But the big thing is there's gonna be so much confusion in the world, he's gonna be having to take on confusing information while being kind of attacked at the same time. So the mental stress is the biggest one. Is he gonna mentally be able to handle it?

SPEAKER_01 1:08:42

I know. Thanks for coming back. We appreciate having you, especially during Mercury retrograde.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:47

I know. Literally, the elevator of the way up was going up, no, it went down. You got in the building, you're here on it's airy season.

SPEAKER_13 1:08:57

So, well, the reality TV, the first one was 2005. I did a show on MTV called Parental Control. And back then that was like the first of reality. Real World was the first reality show, and then it was these dating shows that MTV brought out, but they were very extreme, and they were all LA Orange County based because that was where they got all their talent. And so we got reruns all the time, and then I did next with the next bus, where it's like five guys or five girls in a bus, and then the person who's gonna pick the dates can basically have five choices and just say next, next. It was a it was a really big show. So the MTV had me do both of them back to back. So I was on two shows replaying all the time, and that was where I was like, if I combine this with astrology, there's something there.

SPEAKER_11 1:09:46

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SPEAKER_01 1:09:52

What do you see with my dog?

SPEAKER_12 1:09:54

I see that he barks and barks and shits and shits. He's your grandmother or reincarnated. I need a real psychic!

SPEAKER_11 1:10:04

Or are you exhausted from vague recycled guidance like this?

SPEAKER_01 1:10:09

Master Fabio, I need guidance around finances.

SPEAKER_12 1:10:13

Do you have a dream? A job? A salary, a rich man?

SPEAKER_01 1:10:16

No, I have none of those things.

SPEAKER_12 1:10:18

Dear child, go into the circle at one. Spin counterclockwise 33 times, then clockwise 66 times, repeating the chant, I'm a mare. The total should be 333 affirmation.

SPEAKER_11 1:10:45

And don't even get me started on the Liberace-inspired mentors like this.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:50

Sir Scoticus, why am I not getting the career I want?

SPEAKER_02 1:10:57

You are not wanting enough! Want harder! Then forget about it! That is manifesting! I need a new mentor.

SPEAKER_11 1:11:10

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SPEAKER_04 1:13:03

And we're back.

SPEAKER_14 1:13:05

Right on. Oh, cool.

SPEAKER_11 1:13:07

All right, here we are. What's going on? Defrost the meat. I'm making myself some beef steak and panelado for lunch. Very nice. Um yeah.

SPEAKER_14 1:13:18

Um what what church were you in when you were young?

SPEAKER_11 1:13:23

So this is the funny thing, right? So um first assembly of God, right? And so I used to we played on their basketball team. I'd be like, go fags, go fags. And they're like, I'm like, first assembly of God, fags, right? And so, which is funny because you know, in that church, you know, I went to youth group and all that stuff. I was in MIT, it was in the the choir and all that stuff. Um, and then I got thrown into conversion therapy because I was sexually assaulted by a married man in the church, and I threatened him. I said, you know, he's using I can you know help you with your music career, and every time I'd go with him, he'd like you know, he he assaulted me twice and I threatened. I said, if you don't you you tell your wife this, or I'm telling her myself. And so, of course, he told his wife the whole church found out. Um, they they they outed me like in the middle of service and made me stand up and they like addressed it to the church. I was drunk. Oh my god, they made you the the Jezebel, the like you know, yeah, and I was underage by the way, and this person was of age, and so they pulled me out, and then I had to go to conversion therapy. I could not sing in choir anymore. Meanwhile, this guy was able to be in choir still, and so I'm in the conversion therapy.

SPEAKER_14 1:14:32

So the next victim, right?

SPEAKER_11 1:14:34

And so as I'm in conversion with this pastor, I'm like, something's just not right about this guy. I said something's wrong, right? And so then I was in it and I was entertaining it, and then he made me keep like a journal. Like anytime I had a sexual thought, I had to write it down a journal. Like I'm in school, I'm like, oh my god, I have a sexual thought, and so I gotta write it down. I'm like, what is that gonna do? He's like, we're gonna find out the you know, the the source. So where is this coming from? Like, okay, I'm just horny, right? And so um, and so I did that. Then I had to keep a list of people I had sexual contact with, what was my favorite body part of theirs and shit. Oh my god, um, like so evasive, right? But I'm like, I'm I'm evil, I'm going to hell. Like, I need to do this so I can be changed. And so, and they used to follow me all the time in public if I was out with somebody questioned who you out with. So, I mean, it was pretty, pretty intense. They perform exorcisms on me, like to where just like, and you know, I look back, I'm like, I wasn't possessed, I was like a poor kid that was like screaming for freedom, and they were like trying to rob me of my soul. And so uh then I just said after I did all that stuff, I turned it in the book, and it was like months of stuff and the list. And I go, Okay, so what do you what are you gonna do with this? Well, we're gonna do it for later. I'm like, later when? And I literally said, Are you gonna get off on that? And so that was my thought.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:48

It's like such a perverted thing.

SPEAKER_11 1:15:50

I literally said it goes, Mr. Cruz, you know, outside of line. I said, Really? I said, I just like bared my fucking whole soul to to you on this, and so I said, This guy's gay. I said, I think this guy's gay. So I was going through suicide ideation. I was like being always in the church, falling on all this stuff. And I thankfully his sister was a family friend of ours, and so she saw me like being suicidal. I tried to you know take my life like three times, and and so she came to me and she goes, you know, my heart aches for you, Scott. She goes, but you know, one thing you want to know is like I I also battle with the spirit of homosexuality. I love how they say that. It's because my roommate texts my lover, I'm like, get out of here. So and my brother, which is the pastor that was doing it, she goes, and he also battled with that growing up. I said, I knew it. I said, he's been taking advantage of me. And so, like, right when I turned 18, I was like, fuck off to the church, you know, and there was, you know, and there was other you know, instances too of where I was, you know, sexually assaulted in the church as well, and just seeing the hypocrisy of everything in the church as well, too. And I'm not saying every person goes to church is, but there's a consistency of this stemming from the Christian church with you know pedophilia and and sexual abuse, not all, but it does a lot of that. So, you know, but the exorcisms and you know, speaking in tongues, I I did all that stuff, you know, and was trying to be a minister in training. And and when I was M M MIT and I was questioning, I said, wasn't the word homosexual derived in like 1940s? And so I looked back and I saw that the term was actually originally sexual offender, which could be like anybody, and they don't like that I challenge that. They threw me out, you know. And so so yeah, so it was it was a huge stint of my life of just you know self-degradation, you know, uh self-condemnation, you know, and I really thought, I really believed that they brainwashed me to thinking that I was going to hell that need to change. There's something wrong. And I cut everything out, I cut secular music out, I cut out secular friends, like I did all of that to the T. I'm like, I'm just more horny, you know, after all this change in anything. So, you know, then I then I left the church and I, you know, and that's when I was on my conquest of spirituality, but you know, it was massively controlled, and and you know, the the way it's it's becomes a cult, you know, in that sense, and um and the ritualistic abuse and just like holding you down and like throwing holy water on you, and it's just you know, going through that is traumatizing when you're trying to find your identity at 15, 16 years old, you know.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:10

So trauma says in the next life. I mean, I have clients I swear, I mean, I all the past life reads, they've all been messed up by religion, and in this lifetime, they can't they don't take the power of forgiveness into their own hands, they don't ever forgive themselves. They always feel like they have to answer some other higher thing, power being it their husband or their guy, you know, or their boss. They're still caught in that like psychological box, you know. The next life, it's so it's so deep, is how it works.

SPEAKER_11 1:18:34

I was like 15, 16. I'm like, I was more focused on like creativity, being successful. Like, I wasn't I said, You all keep waking up about thinking about who I'm sleeping with or who I'm gonna sleep, but I think you're all the perverted ones because I'm not thinking about that. You're making me think about this shit. I want to be like successful, I want to help people, I want to be you know, make a difference in this world. I kept saying, I said, I want to be, I remember saying this at that age too. I said, I want to be the mentor that I didn't have. I want to be the mentor that you all were supposed to be, because every mentor, you know, sexually assaulted me in my life, you know, and so um, and I look I this came to my mind yesterday. I was thinking driving the car, I'm like, you know what? How funny, like I I literally said this at 15. I want to be the mentor I didn't have, and here I am doing that. I've been doing it for 14 years. The mentor part, which yeah, you know what I mean? So yeah, it was it's a huge stint, you know, and then parents were wrapped up in that and they thought I was gross, and then they had to change and get you know, deep get deep programmed for the religion thing that they're all accepting now, and you know, so when does the therapy like you're gonna like boobies now?

SPEAKER_05 1:19:31

You like boobies, right? I mean, how do they convert you back?

SPEAKER_14 1:19:36

Sometimes trying to have you like more connect with like the Bible and what Jesus did, and it more from that angle, opposed to like, oh, we need to think about women. It's more like no, you just need to not be sinning.

SPEAKER_11 1:19:49

Yeah, it's like it's okay you have those feelings, you just can't act upon it. I said, Well, tell it to your wife and your husband. What the fuck are you expecting to do?

SPEAKER_14 1:19:56

Like, you know, um, there was there's a lot of proof that there's tons of that in all the churches, especially like whenever you hear about like a husband, right, who is married to a woman, and then you find out after their divorce, like for 10 years they weren't even connecting, and he had a guy on the side, and then finally came out, right? Like, that's a normal story in every church.

SPEAKER_11 1:20:20

And the funny thing is, the music pastor that outed me with this end up like months later, found out he was gay, moved to Miami, divorced his wife, and was living a gay lifestyle in Miami after that. I'm like, so on the 16-year-old being condemned, and all these adults are just like, you know, so that fucked with my psyche for for a long time. You know, your journal's freedom.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:40

He read your journals day after day, and he was freed.

SPEAKER_11 1:20:43

Right, right. Seriously, it was like so weird. And what's your favorite body part? And it was odd, very odd.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:48

It's really weird how how humans are just so stupid about sex. I mean, especially I blame the church for it. I think you know, Constantine is existed, everyone's throwing around. I mean, there's the Roman bathhouses, everyone sleep with everyone, they had a bisexual lover, they're in the Roman army, they had like, you know, it was like it was a free-for-all, and then all of a sudden we went down this weird, like, don't have sex, you know, thing for like 2,000 years, age of Pisces, you know, and now we're all freaked out about it. It's a natural thing. Sex is natural. Why are we being so weird about it?

SPEAKER_14 1:21:12

Well, you know, that's it. Yeah, it was a way of control like back then, and all the people who were doing, you know, mythology, right, back then turned into priests, and it was the ones that wrote in the way that the Christian doctrine, because that's the Christian doctrine, the ones that wrote it in, and then there was that guy, Arian, right, who went against them and then went back to to Germany, ironically, and then they sacked Rome a hundred like within less than a hundred years. Um and it was all based upon that. And that's I think is kind of interesting too.

SPEAKER_11 1:21:49

But religion, and religion's always been just like a culture control, not so much. So the one person, it's like we had to control culture, it's got to stay in this parent these parameters, you know, because the more we become free, we start breaking the norms, we're more closer to spirit. We're actually more closer to God, actually. When we start breaking those confines of the norm, we become more expressive, we evolve. And so religion was the thing that was the most detached from God, actually, you know, and imperialists took advantage of it.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:15

Like whenever Great Britain and stuff, they would divide up the world, you know, vibe Africa and stuff, they'd always do it by religion. So, like the religion would all be there fighting each other, fighting each other's belief structures, keeping us fighting over whose God's better. It was all designed to keep them settled down so they wouldn't have to police them as much and cost so much money to be able to control the country. Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_11 1:22:32

And but you know what I what what I was what I went to after that? Scientology. I did Scientology for two years. You know, it was Ron Hubbard, like said, I bet you I can create my own fucking sci-fi movie creator. I bet you I can create my own religion. I dived into that. It was great teaching, some great teachings. I'm like, what the fuck am I doing? I said, I really want to find out my own path, and that's when I started to you know become more you know inclined in my own spirituality. But I would say through auditing through Scientology, I had my first past life regression, actually. And found out that's when I found out I was Medici. You know, Julian Medici. Remember? And that was confirmed many times. Even Krista confirmed that actually, too. Yeah, I think you did too.

SPEAKER_14 1:23:07

Wow.

SPEAKER_11 1:23:08

So a lot of crazy shit.

SPEAKER_14 1:23:09

That's what's crazy, is because Robert L. Hubbard like just took all the spiritual concepts and just branded his own exactly, exploited, yeah. Yeah, and then added his own kind of crazy rules, too. Right. Yep. And then he didn't follow those rules, which was the craziest. Of course, they never do.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:26

Oh, that's yeah, it's a design.

SPEAKER_14 1:23:27

I was gonna say too, there's the other part where you see that with what men do in there, but then there's also like, let's say the couples in the church, they want their sons or daughters to marry somebody in the church, and then if you go into Mormonism or you go into they want the same bloodline, right? They like they want, oh, we we're we're all connected in the genealogy, right? And that's like the kind of creepy part is like you can only meet somebody in the church, anybody else is bad, right? So you only get so then there's the other side where these poor kids and teens and stuff are like, I can only date in the pool of that's in this church, right? And then that's where they go get married, and it's like, oh well, she was kind of porky, but that was all available. She had a cute face. Well, and they bastard us, and then that's what do you think the guy's gonna do after that? Like after five, ten years of that, having kids, having to work a horrible job, and then the church is telling him to do this now, and they want him to act like this. That's what that's that's where then it turns into the the guy that does that to you, Scott. Like, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_11 1:24:29

Like the thing is they they bastardize purification because they say, Oh, purifying the blood, pure now it's purifying the white race. Like, they use this whole purity thing, bastardize it in the sense where it becomes so discriminatory, you know, self-projection, you know, like you see it a lot. Then there's a lot of like affairs going on in the church, and too. Oh, yeah. And I just say lately I've noticed, and this is not anything about those who are, you know, in AA or anything like that. I have a lot of friends who are sponsors and sponsees in AA. I've never dealt with that myself, but I find a lot of people currently who are you know good starting with addiction gravitate to religion. Oh, yeah. So it's a good source, I think a good you know thing, but I would say evolve out of it too, you know. But I just see a lot of people.

SPEAKER_14 1:25:09

The accountability is I sinned and I'm forgiven. That's the thing. That's that's the accountability. Like, you know what? God had a plan for me to eat and to be with you now, and so you know what we sinned, we were forgiven, at least we admitted it, and that's it. That's like the highest form of the accountability is just just just admit you did it and then you're forgiven.

SPEAKER_11 1:25:32

It's and no no accountability, no responsibility, no reflection of growth, right? And that's when when I left the church, is why I really connected with the the conscience of Yeshua. I I I when I hear it say Jesus, I cringe. I don't know why. I just don't, it's not you know, I just cringe at Jesus, like, no, it's Yeshua. And so Yeshua's like, you know, do what you're doing, like keep expanding, don't listen to these people. That's when I truly connect to that loving consciousness after I left the church and was so beat down, you know, by family and you know, and uh the the religious aspect itself. Thankfully, my parents like completely evolved from that. But you know, Yeshua's like, no, you you're supposed to be this way. This is an another aspect of creation, you know. Those people don't you know don't listen. So that that gave me the strength to move forward, actually, it was a true, the true source of Yeshua.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:14

Talking to talking to J Jesus, you're saying yeah, no, I've had Yeshua come to me. It's legit, it's legit.

SPEAKER_14 1:26:22

Well, I it's weird. My my family was on my parents weren't religious, and my buddy in high school was like, dude, we were skateboarding at that time. He's like, dude, the the youth group, that's where all the chick the bitches are at. And right when it's done on Wednesday nights, then all the girls are there and they just want to watch the dude skate, and then just like, you know, the way the world used to kind of work. I can't believe that doesn't happen anymore. But like, so that's how I went, but I never associated with any of it. I literally would sit there and they would play Veggie Tales, and I'm like, we're like 14 years old. Like, why are you playing Veggie Tales? Oh my god, right? But like, you know, I I would just wait to go skateboard, but then there was some Christian rock bands that would come and like Thrice is one because they're huge, right? And they went to my church and went to my high school. So all metal core music, most of them are all Christians. In the 2000s, they all started Christian, but they were all screaming about the issues that you have gone through, Chris, right? Or uh Scott, like like like just that there's something wrong. There's something off. Like, why why am I getting more like why is this girl that I met through church like fucking cheating on me and treating me like shit? That's what all the metal core was, and now they're all not most of those bands they all dropped at.

SPEAKER_11 1:27:40

Of course.

SPEAKER_14 1:27:40

So for me, it was actually the music that I started being into it, and then following these bands and watching them, and they would play at churches when they were small.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:49

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_14 1:27:50

And then they blew up, and then now they all come on podcast and are like, yeah, that shit was crazy. Like I like we we were screaming our way out of it, right? You know. And so for me it was like a very deep confirmation of like I never connected with any of their teachings or any of what they were doing. And it felt like I was in a fucking trippy, like like weird creep like thing, especially because I got in at 14, was only there for like two years, and would just I wouldn't go every Wednesday. I didn't do any of the Sunday shit. I never went on any of the things that they asked you to do. I'm like, nah, I'm just here to like try and find some hot bitches. And I didn't actually fuck one chick from any of the youth group. I knock on the door with their parents and they're like, you're not, you go to her youth group, but you we don't see you on Sundays.

SPEAKER_11 1:28:42

Yeah. But don't you remember? Don't they promote the true love weights thing? Because that was a whole big thing too. The true love weights. And yeah, we don't have sex before marriage, and they have a ring. I remember at least my youth group didn't.

SPEAKER_14 1:28:53

No, because like the youth groups always put in like some 21-year-old dude and then maybe some hot chick, and then they're having sexual like tension. And then they kind of promote, like, yeah, go talk and like be flirty and all that. So it's like they they that's the whole secret, like within is like they kind of want these kids. The gaslighting.

SPEAKER_11 1:29:11

Yeah, it's a gaslighting shit.

SPEAKER_14 1:29:13

I know. And but I'm like, none of these chicks really want to get down because their dad will like fucking come down on them if they do anything. I'm like, so this kind of sucks. But I ended up with a girlfriend in high school, my second one that was Catholic. So she went to a Catholic fucking high school, and boy, those chicks got down.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:34

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_14 1:29:35

There's like kind of like a there is a little bit of difference, like Catholic schoolgirls wear the fucking skirt. I I was like the happiest 17 and 18 or 16 and 17-year-old in high school because I had the hottest Catholic schoolgirl like that wore the skirt every day, like fucking the plat skirt. I was like, damn, and she would she was rich too, so she had a fucking jaguar, right? Like her, like I didn't I was a I was a scrub, I didn't get my license I was 18. I would just be sitting in the passenger seat of my fucking hot little Catholic girlfriend in her white fucking jag, and then fuck her in the backseat of the fucking car. I was like, this is amazing. What I liked about it was like the Catholic schoolgirls, they became the most rebellious, like quick of course, of course, because it was too structured, you know, it was like very structured. Of course.

SPEAKER_11 1:30:29

Yeah, of course, and that usually happens, right? You you restrict something, it just makes you want to desire it more. It's like the forbidden nature is like the aphrodisiac for a lot of people, right? You know, so um, but you know, that that shit put a lot of like it took so many years to like beat that shit out of my consciousness, like to deprogram this to you know, the denial of self, man.

SPEAKER_14 1:30:52

You know, well, think about it for a woman. The only thing that you could strive for in the church is to be a nun.

SPEAKER_11 1:30:59

The word says it too, none. You don't get any, right?

SPEAKER_14 1:31:02

So, like, you know, it's kind of like being a Catholic schoolgirl is kind of like the writing's on the wall. Uh, that there's nothing here for me. I do not want that life, right? Like, you know, but like that's what I think it's harder for men and boys, right? Because oh, you can be the ultra boy, you can be this, you can be that, you could do this. We want you to be in the involved, we really want this, because then they treat nuns like shit, like cook the food, this do this, clean the sheets, clean the toilets, help the poor outside. We don't want to talk to them. Will you go give will you go give them something? Like, you know, like that's where I think why you see so much victim shit to men in the church is because they only prop men up. Right. And so it's like it kind of reminds me of like masonry or something, kind of like, oh, come on in and like you can work your way up. You want to be a master mason one day?

SPEAKER_11 1:31:53

Like you want to be you want to be your own priest, you want to be your own, you know, like I just like control organized religion, it has perverted a lot of things. It perverted sexuality, it's perverted genders, perverted a lot of a lot of shit, you know, uh that could be very much better.

SPEAKER_14 1:32:09

That's what's so funny, is they are they're the ones attacking all that, yeah. They're the ones creating it.

SPEAKER_11 1:32:13

That's always you know, that's what do we see growing up? He's we're fingerpointed this way, this four foot pointing back at you, right? And so it's just like that's the hypocrisy is what I've been on a mission for, especially today with the hypocrisy of religion. That's been a huge thing for me because it's that hypocrisy that's caused a lot of people to, again, uh thankfully, you know, uh the spirit intervened the three times I try to take my life, you know, with that, because I'm like, if I'm gonna go to hell, let's go now. I was my mentality. But that has infiltrated so much, you know, harm and a lot of people growing up, especially today. It's a hypocrisy to me. It's like I'm glad we're seeing it be exposed right now. You know, 188, you know, uh pastors and religious leaders have been, you know, accused of sexual child sexual molestation in 2025 alone. 180, over 180, right?

SPEAKER_14 1:32:57

And 300,000 victims in Canada, right? Like Francis had to go just apologize for that, right? And that was like an estimate. Chris, you're muted.

SPEAKER_11 1:33:10

Yeah. Yeah, we don't hear you. We don't hear you. Scream louder. Chris, make bigger faces. Come on, scream louder. You have to headbang that works.

SPEAKER_14 1:33:25

We gotta get Chris like one of those Catholics, like you know, the white collar with the black, you know, on having a shit. Yeah, that's better.

SPEAKER_05 1:33:34

Sir, can you hear me now, right? Hear me now? Yeah, okay. Yeah, so we're we weren't being rude, we just can hear you. I was just saying, what? I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe it. 300,000 is crazy.

SPEAKER_11 1:33:41

That's a lot.

SPEAKER_05 1:33:42

Like, oh yeah, that was the priest.

SPEAKER_14 1:33:44

That's like the that was the light estimate.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:47

Yep, yeah, it's probably a lot more than that. Was it just every Sunday?

SPEAKER_14 1:33:52

Because I was like, What? It's like 2018 or 2019, and the Pope Francis went and apologized to Canadians for 300,000 victims at minimum.

SPEAKER_11 1:34:02

And that's what we know of, right? You know, it's more a lot more.

SPEAKER_14 1:34:07

I don't think Catholic, you know, at the Vatican are good at math, so I don't think the calculator works that great.

SPEAKER_05 1:34:13

So you know that's true. That's funny. Um, yeah, I think when you repress it too, you just make it a bigger problem. So there's a more of a thrill when you do wrong in a in a sin. I mean, that they like feeds itself, unfortunately. And people have stuff for lifetimes.

SPEAKER_11 1:34:32

I mean, like you had a similar experience, Christopher, right? With the whole kind of religious stuff, Upper. You had a similar kind of experience as I did you, right?

SPEAKER_05 1:34:38

Uh not like that. I mean, no, I mean it was from my father, you know. Like, I had but he yeah, he played God, he played religious. I mean, like I I had a father who thought he was God.

SPEAKER_14 1:34:48

I mean, that's he was a dark wizard, though. He was a dark wizard, very much a dark wizard, yeah. And to grind it is even kind of more terrifying because he actually knows how to use dark gifts.

SPEAKER_05 1:34:59

Well, I mean, I would say shit like, you know, I complained about him. I mean, like, you know, you chose me in heaven. He like, you know, he would use the actual truth on me, and I'm like, fuck, I don't know how to report, you know, resort to you, you know, retort to that. Like, he's right. I knew it, but I also was like as smart or more aware than he was. Like, I really was as a kid. I saw every I saw him like five moves ahead. I don't know how I did it.

SPEAKER_14 1:35:19

Instead of like your Arthur past life of like having Usher, right? Like as the daddy, he figured it out, and then of course you're the one who did it. It's like you had that all over again in a different way.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:29

He was Usher Dude, he was. He was he was Arthur's son, I'm sure of it.

SPEAKER_14 1:35:34

I'm sure of it. That's that makes so much sense, you know.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:38

Like and then father's son will reverses now reverse back to father's son, yeah. Right. Because in Atlantis, he's my father. So there's three lifetimes with them. This is the third one.

SPEAKER_11 1:35:47

But something something cunning when he's when he tells you that, you know, he shows me in heaven. There's something more it's true, it's like, but the way he's the cunning nature he had to manipulate you with that. He was kind of difficult.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:57

He was brilliant. I remember going walks, he'd be like, I don't know why you invest in people, they're a waste of time. You know, they just like really like fog, which made me want to do it even more. In fact, I I realized in Soul Guardian, when Soul Garden fell apart, I was fighting to prove him wrong, is what I was building that for. It was not even for anyone else, it was to prove him wrong. You know, and then he died.

SPEAKER_14 1:36:15

I was like, Oh shit, well that I was about to just say that that it was the irony of it was his death, but it was the build-up that you you didn't subconsciously know that it was coming, and that's why it got it was the the universe was bringing all of that up, and then you would have to go through it and clear all of that, yeah. Because like the work you did was the brightest light and it continues to be, but like it's you have to like forgive yourself of like that. Wasn't even you, right? Like, that was you having to go through right and fully clear that energy because he was still alive and he was still tethering to you, even though you had not done the tether, he was still doing even stuff that you don't even know. And we we're not gonna name the name, but we know of another guy who's very similar that we both dealt with. Yes, and he was at the same time starting to throw his hooks right when your dad passed. It was like your dad passed and then he showed up.

SPEAKER_05 1:37:07

A junior wizard showed up. What the hell? A junior wizard, yep. With a with a with a victim.

SPEAKER_11 1:37:12

I have a question though, Christopher. Like, honestly, do you see some truths in what your dad was saying?

SPEAKER_05 1:37:17

Yes. I mean, well, as far as like people not being worth investing in, things like that. No, no, I never saw. I always disagree with him. I mean, I think him and I have been arguing that over centuries. Yeah, you know, like I think this has been my argument with him the whole time. Like, no, you're wrong. No, you're wrong. Like, I'm the only guy I think on the planet that can argue with him, like, really, like, you know, sword fight with him to where he's he's challenged. And I think that's one of the reasons why he liked me.

SPEAKER_11 1:37:39

Yeah, but yeah, there's a position where people are just meant to be controlled and he's mastered controlling, and of course, it's gonna be useless to him because he's not seeing it from the aspect of like trying to be like bringing sort of value to anybody, you know.

SPEAKER_05 1:37:50

He was like Darth Vader, he won a company, he wanted me to join the dark side. He tells you that all the time. Yeah, he wanted me to join him, join him, stand by his side, you know, right? Which is crazy. But also, but I'll tell you, my brother's my brother, my baby brother Matthew, you know, got a girl pregnant at 17, of course. What techies refer to as far as how, anyways, somehow she ends up moving down by him, by my dad. I don't know how her family end up moving, he moved away from my brother and right to my my father. I'm like, what the fuck? Like within blocks, and so they're like, Oh, let's get together, know you know each other. Well, you know what? She committed suicide. And I'm sure it was dad. You know, it's him working against her, probably muster, like put sand on the air right now.

SPEAKER_14 1:38:27

Most people would never know it because somebody like that isn't doing something that is like physically seen, they're doing it behind the scenes, right?

SPEAKER_05 1:38:33

Well, he he he encourages me to make the first move. He always encouraged me, like it was he he knew how to play the chord. If he got that person to talk that person into doing something, then they're now that's they're to blame. He didn't do anything wrong. It was brilliant, really. It was brilliant.

SPEAKER_11 1:38:46

But that's that's psychic warfare, though. That's true.

SPEAKER_05 1:38:49

Right there, true psychic war. He'd be in the living room at night in meditation, attacking someone. Probably my mother, usually, because my mom went to the state.

SPEAKER_14 1:38:56

Well, and then there's versions of that all in the press as pastors and everything, and they're doing it and they're using that because they're they're I hate this might sound weird, but they're not as good. So they they like go, well, this is a little easier. It's already a setup that I can come in and already do this kind of energy. And I think that's the problem is that the these structures are easy for uh other people with like a dark fucking art in them to just go in and be like, oh, I could take advantage of this structure, right?

SPEAKER_05 1:39:23

They're literally wearing mini skirts to school, right? Like it's it's part of the whole plan from the beginning. It's totally true that they're they're basically made to be uh sexual objects, you know.

SPEAKER_11 1:39:31

Well, you know, it's interesting because I feel like that's what my connection is with my brother, right? The whole because I love you guys. I gotta run. Okay, I thought I was gonna say, Dave, don't you have to go? Yeah, yeah. Um, love you guys. Good to see you, brother man. Love you, man. Let's have that meeting. Yes.

SPEAKER_05 1:39:44

Oh, yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_14 1:39:45

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SPEAKER_06 1:39:51

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SPEAKER_14 1:39:53

Cool, cool. Yeah, the API for Restream has all that. Well, that's great. Awesome.

SPEAKER_05 1:39:58

Right. Love you, brother.

SPEAKER_14 1:39:59

Love you.

SPEAKER_05 1:40:00

Are we closing out then? Or we're just thinking about him. Okay, yeah. Finish your story.

SPEAKER_11 1:40:03

Well, I was just gonna say, like, you know, same thing with my brother, because I was, you know, and then I'm open about this, so this might sound too candid, but I was molested by my brother growing up. But I noticed, because I know there's a sole contract because he's also he's been in prison, so he's not in our lives, but I noticed that every time we had when I said a poltergeist, it was always attacking him. It was always killing him, it was always scratching him, it was always like terrorizing him. And I wonder, was that part of my energy, like getting back, you know, at him for that, you know, for what was done to me at that time, you know? Um, and I look back as an adult, I'm like, obviously, it's just like your father, that control, you know, that they had over there. And so I'm like, yeah, I agreed to this, but at the same time, it's like they when you learn your lesson, they just go. So I think that when your dad passed, the same thing, you were learning your lesson. I was and really assuming your power. And once I did, my brother's like in prison, not locked out, won't be out for a long time. And so just been completely separate. And so um, I think again, the removal of them is an essence of your growth, you know.

SPEAKER_05 1:40:59

Well, I'll tell you the whole breakdown I've had here was to do the final me dealing with it finally by myself, like finally facing it. It took a long time to face it. When I came out here in the desert, it all came up like out of nowhere and comes my dreams and all kinds of stuff. I know I didn't quite know what you meant, but now I do now had I known read the brochure a little bit more clearly, I think. No, I had to go through it, I had to release it. I mean, I had to face it, and I think is he died, I couldn't confront him. Yeah, so I never got a chance. I was waiting for the courage, you know. I was like, he died when I was like I was 38, 37, 38. Like, so he and I I was told I was in the swimming pool of that house because there's a vortex in that house, and it was like very clear, your father's gonna die next month.

SPEAKER_11 1:41:36

It was like voice kill, like almost a radio, like yeah, but Christopher, I I think the year of resistance, you already did confront him. Dimsted.

SPEAKER_05 1:41:45

Yeah, yeah, I did. I mean, I did, yeah, a little bit, I did all the time. And but we never got outright said it, but I'd be like, you know, dad, you know, you know.

SPEAKER_11 1:41:51

But he knows, yeah, but he knows because he knows. Exactly, 100%.

SPEAKER_05 1:41:56

I mean, he took me to a fucking he took me to a um a gay news resort, like a news resort, um, when I was 18. Nudest resort, yeah, nudist resort. He told me that when I was 18. I mean, like that was like, okay, I'm not crazy. Jesus, you like you waited until I was legal and it took me like literally, it's like May 10th. You know, I swear to God, it was that to the morning. I was like, Why don't you even waste? But I could always see through him, always see through him. It was funny too to watch other people, like the way everyone was always afraid of him, wherever he went. He had control.

SPEAKER_11 1:42:27

My grandfather had a lot of that too, energy, that control.

SPEAKER_05 1:42:30

Yeah, you know, and he was a grandfather. Yeah, look at my dad was always very calm, very you know, you wouldn't think of him as having control. He you know, he was hidden he was hiding behind the you know, behind things. And yeah, it was weird, yeah. And he actually tried, I'll tell some stories another another show. Yeah, but he actually has interviewed since he died. He tried a couple of plots, actually, that I caught after death plots. Mm-hmm. Full evidence, and I will tell you the story actually actually involved. David's girlfriend, ex-girlfriend.

SPEAKER_11 1:42:58

When when is when did that happen? You never told me about that.

SPEAKER_05 1:43:00

Is it recently this happened? It was in it was when I came, it was recent in the sense of the last 10 years, but like what happened was, I mean, I might as well tell it now, but basically, like I was having this dream. Every time I wake up, I was having what sounded like St. Saint Germain, but it wasn't St. Germain.

SPEAKER_03 1:43:14

Right.

SPEAKER_05 1:43:14

Say, uh, you have a sun coming. You have a sun coming. And it was like, show the sun rising. I was like, what the fuck? I've never had such like you know, biblical shit in my life. It's right in that zone when you're waking up, you know. I was like, what the fuck? And I was really like, What the fuck? So then I could it was really weird. I didn't know what it was, and I'm like, because I always thought I had a daughter coming. I still think I have a daughter somewhere. There's a daughter somewhere. I know I have daughters, so I was like, son, that's gonna be a daughter. So that was the real thing. My mom calls up and she's like, she's my mom just my mom is like psychic, but like only the most important moments, and then she's like off and she texts me, she's like, Watch out, your father's trying to steal a body. And I was like, What? You know, what is she talking about? Well trying to get in. Here's the weird thing. In the same week, my ex-girlfriend from when I was five calls me up. Another girl that I was infatuated with calls me up, and David's girlfriend, who I saw was beautiful, calls me up to hang out. I was like, What the fuck? And when I went out with all these girls to say hi, they're all kind of like zombie dollars. I was like, Why are we here? And they trying to walk, you think? Was that no? My dad wanted me to get him pregnant and come through. He wanted to get another baby, he wanted to be my son. No, no, no, no. Because actually, that's how you do it. You steal a body. Right. You know, like they, you know, a lot of times that person whispering to go hit on that girl is a ghost who wants a body.

SPEAKER_03 1:44:25

Right, right.

SPEAKER_04 1:44:26

That's really how it works. Do you guys think that with I mean, we talk about walk-ins with humans, but do you think that it's gonna be a thing when we have these humanoid robots?

SPEAKER_11 1:44:36

That's well, that's I've always I've always said that it'd be a lot easier to where they are formatting these robots for consciousness to incarnate incarnate in, you know. But I don't know if I'm seeing that to be that that's more like a prison, because at least the physical body can die. But I'm kind of like questioning like how attached will we be the conscious will be to those, you know, robotic machines, would it be a prison and you're stuck in it and then you can't die. You know, so I I question that. But but I I think I you know I didn't really understand what I didn't believe much about the walk-in theory until I started to understand about NPCs and I started seeing NPCs, not having a soul, and realizing, well, yeah, if there's this you know, body that's going around functioning just primarily off brain, they have white couldn't a soul kind of incarnate and and take over, you know, a soulless creature.

SPEAKER_05 1:45:22

I don't know how that works though, like the metaphysics of it, but okay. And because technically, from what I hear, the body's in the soul comes in, it's like an umbilical sack, and the body's in the soul. So I didn't pull that soul out and put a new one in real quick. Like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_11 1:45:33

That's I don't know either. I don't know. But someone I met someone who claims they were walking, and they said they have evidence of like how they shifted when he walked in, the life completely changed, and so I mean anything's possible, I would assume, you know, when it comes to that. So you know what?

SPEAKER_05 1:45:45

Yeah, it is God's universe, who knows? I mean, seriously.

SPEAKER_04 1:45:48

Typically it's like holographic, right? It's like this the spirit can see, like uh, because time is not linear from that perspective, so they can see when somebody's about to leave their body and make a make a negotiation or something.

SPEAKER_11 1:46:02

Right, yeah, 100%. I I said about those uh I said about abortions or miscarriages when I read it in spirit, I would say there's always a soul that wants to experience that shortened portion of life. So I would say spirit, I'm I'm kind of more conservative physically, but spiritually more liberal when it comes to like say abortion or even a miscarriage because the soul's like, I just want to experience a fetal experience of life.

SPEAKER_05 1:46:23

They're all destined, they're destined to happen.

SPEAKER_11 1:46:25

It's all destined, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:46:26

It's all every time I do a reading on those, it's like it's like there's like sometimes just a quick karma fix. It's like, well, you you know, you you died on me when you were two, so now I'm gonna come in and die on you when you're two months old, and we'll be gone. They're just doing quick karma deals, and there's that too, yeah. Sometimes it is, but I've always in the you know, and a lot of times here's a weird thing that when you see a psychic and you had like when your mom had like an abortion or something, you know, the this they the psychic usually sees the other kid the whole time, the whole lifetime. They talk about you.

SPEAKER_11 1:46:51

I always do. I always see like miscarriage termination that child is either still as a guide for them, or sometimes I see well that's the other thing too.

SPEAKER_05 1:46:58

If they come in life, you get a physical bond. So a lot of people have like empty 12th houses, like Pluto and the 12th, like that they're gonna like learn spirituality for the first time. Yep, their teenage son dies. Yeah, like they're you know, and it's like and they're like they're agrieved. I'm like, no, the whole point is I hate to say this, but this is honestly just a little trick to get you to start praying, right? Because they're gonna be your operator up there and they want to talk to you, and you just have not developed this area of your life, and so now you have someone you care about who's on the other side, which makes you reach. You know, it's like a lot of times it's a strategy.

SPEAKER_11 1:47:23

I totally see that, yeah. And a lot, I think I said before, a lot are these abortion or miscarriage energies, they remain as a spirit guide for them, yeah. You know, an access point, you know, to spirit too. And so a lot of people have used those souls to kind of as an access point to spirit, and you know, um, and so it's almost like a repayment. I saw a lot of that too here. I'm repaying you, you know, now in this and while they're in spirit and physical because of you know, going through that experience of losing a child. So they're like, I'm a guide now, I'm gonna repay you in this lifetime.

SPEAKER_05 1:47:49

You can't say how many power couples have that same situation where one dies. And they're like, I'm so there's the perfect person of everything like, yeah, and now they're your partner and you're working, you're heaven and earth at the same time. Now you're like now, you're like superpower twins. You know, it's like if you realize it, but you are, they're with you every minute. They can see every time you think of a person in heaven, they they can't help but look.

SPEAKER_11 1:48:06

True.

SPEAKER_05 1:48:07

There's no way there's no way of not being connected. You're connected, you feel it. I feel my grandma all the time. I feel all of them. Some of them like, come on, I'm gonna try to have stuff here. My dad would come through every reading, by the way. Once he died, I'd be in any fucking terror reading, I don't care how bad she was. She's like, Your father's here. Like they like smelled something like that. I think your father's here. God damn it, dad. I can't go anywhere without you fucking coming in my readings. Seriously, I went to John Edward to go see John Edward, and I swear to God, he's like, he looks really mean. He's like, I mean, oh no, no, no, no. Because I was there as like this guest. Don't tell me he's coming to the room. It's like he's like his middle name is Michael, just like your brother's like, God damn it, Dad. And I got mad, I'm like, damn it, Dad. I say it to the audience, John's like, oh, because they're all wishing and hoping that their devil would come out. I'm like, I don't know what's out of your assholes. Yeah, I was mad at that. That's funny.

SPEAKER_11 1:48:54

Michael, so it's funny, his name is Michael, and your brother's name is Michael, huh? That's interesting.

SPEAKER_05 1:48:57

That was the clue he gave. He goes, same middle brother. He has your your second brother has the same middle name as as he has his middle name. I was like, Oh, I was over. I was like, fuck. That was like, okay, that was a that was a password. All right, dad, what do you want? You know, like what do you think?

SPEAKER_11 1:49:11

That's my middle name, too, right? Michael's my middle name.

SPEAKER_05 1:49:13

That's interesting. I think honestly, so my brother Michael, you know, I think embodies the spirit of Archangel Michael. I think my father had an Archangel Michael energy put in the middle of his name to keep him split because he was a sort of personal. I swear to God, I swear he has the sword of Michael. I think the sword of Michael's in his middle name because it kept him from going all dark.

SPEAKER_11 1:49:30

Probably.

SPEAKER_05 1:49:31

Sword of God.

SPEAKER_11 1:49:32

I also think it's weird that David's on because when I keep seeing people say Scott and David, it's weird because my brother's David, my dad's David. I'm like, so connections with those three. I gotta run. Uh yeah, Morgan.

SPEAKER_04 1:49:44

Well, we're we're almost birthday twins this week.

SPEAKER_05 1:49:47

We are happy birthday, bro. Yeah, birthday. Tomorrow. I doubt you heard the pep talk today, the step talk. Did you hear the step talk? But yes, not yet. I said happy birthday to you.

SPEAKER_04 1:49:56

How old are you gonna be, Morgan? Thanks. Uh my body, you mean? Your body. 48. It's because I've been vegan since I was 13. I thought you were younger than me. Oh superpowers.

SPEAKER_05 1:50:13

Yeah, he's yeah, he's good.

SPEAKER_11 1:50:15

You look great! Yeah, I thought you were I thought you were younger than me. I thought you were like your late 30s. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:50:23

He's got the usefulness on the one before.

SPEAKER_04 1:50:26

My beard, I lose like 20 years.

SPEAKER_05 1:50:32

They have an open heart. You know, they're you know they're open heart people.

SPEAKER_11 1:50:35

So it's true for you. You're a good man, dude. You are man, I we I really appreciate you more. Go with the punches. I I I tried to touch you as much as I can.

SPEAKER_04 1:50:47

Oh, you guys were fuzzies.

SPEAKER_11 1:50:50

It feels like an old LOB with Christopher and I going back and forth too, right? Before David came back on, right? I got the flashback from old school elo.

SPEAKER_05 1:50:58

Yeah, yeah, I thought with uh I saw the old opening. For some reason, I'm about to shut my hard drive, and it's like that's like little quote. I mean, I was like, oh my god, this is such a weird and then it's like I'm in the bastard with the bastard, like you're bloated, Christopher.

SPEAKER_11 1:51:24

You're taking water a little bit. Yeah, I've been it's been hectic and crazy for me, but yeah, definitely but we have to also shoot something too. So I got I I asked David to put on a drive for me, but we don't talk about it in the meeting.

SPEAKER_05 1:51:41

But um put the music on because that's what basically he's gonna do the music, right? David's gonna mix it.

SPEAKER_11 1:51:46

Well, I I he he did something with AI, and so I'm I'm taking the original voices and just putting it with uh some AI track that he created on that. I will refuse to use AI to create music. So if he wants to do I like how to do that, you know, it's kind of fun.

SPEAKER_05 1:51:59

I mean it wouldn't, yeah, we don't want to hire a fork stuff. But um I want a different lawn liner. I mean, I cannot say the astro joke anymore. I'm tired. I think it's fucking awesome.

SPEAKER_11 1:52:09

Perfect! Perfect. Like I'm here to cover your ass, bro. Astro pro. Perfect. I would change mine. I think mine's a little cheesy. Mine's very 90s, I would change it, but I don't know if it's changed every season, man.

SPEAKER_05 1:52:22

I think it'd be just you know, like a collected item, you know.

SPEAKER_11 1:52:28

We'll schedule the meeting soon, too. But uh we'll get some lunch. I love you guys. All right, I love you both.

SPEAKER_04 1:52:37

Happy birthday, Christopher. Happy birthday.

SPEAKER_05 1:52:40

Thank you. Thank you, brother. Okay, Christopher. I appreciate it. That'd be great. Oh, good things to see. It's gonna be an edit year. 53.

SPEAKER_11 1:52:47

I'm excited about it. Uh watching, thanks for watching, guys. Thanks for joining our membership. And uh, and then you have you have iRise I shot on Sunday, right, Christopher?

SPEAKER_05 1:52:57

And guess what? Um, the new horse scope's coming back. It's gonna be called Charlie Now coming out on Sunday. Awesome. Awesome. Charlie went right now.

SPEAKER_04 1:53:07

Right now.

SPEAKER_05 1:53:07

It's all about the now, man.

SPEAKER_04 1:53:10

All right, you guys. Peace out, take care.

SPEAKER_05 1:53:19

Brother, happy birthday, my fellow tourists.