Steven Cade on Country Music, Purpose & Giving Back Ep107

This week on Happy Hour with Deb, we sit down with country artist, entrepreneur, and founder of Giving Guitars Foundation, Steven Cade, for an inspiring conversation about music, purpose, and giving back. 

Steven shares his journey into country music and what led him to build a life and career in Nashville, along with the stories and inspiration behind his songs. Beyond the music, we dive into his heart for service through the Giving Guitars Foundation, whose mission is to bring hope, healing, and encouragement through the power of music. By donating guitars and creating meaningful music experiences, the foundation reaches people facing some of life’s toughest challenges — including homelessness, addiction, loss, and at-risk youth — reminding them that they are seen, valued, and not forgotten.

We also talk about family, entrepreneurship, and how Steven balances it all while continuing to grow his impact both on and off the stage. This episode is a powerful reminder of how music can be more than entertainment — it can be a tool for connection, healing, and real change.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

I've had the best of both worlds if I think about it. I mean, I always joke around and said if if God could bring San Diego and all together, the world would be a good thing.

SPEAKER_02 0:07

It would be amazing. Amen. Hey, it's Deb. It's Happy Hour with Deb, and my good golly, Stephen Cade is in the house today. It's great to be here. It is so nice to meet you. You freaking rock star.

SPEAKER_01 0:35

Jeez, thank you. I appreciate that.

SPEAKER_02 0:37

You're a total legend.

SPEAKER_01 0:38

Some people tell me so.

SPEAKER_02 0:39

You are, right? It's so amazing. So wait, we're gonna finish our conversation. You're living here now, Nashville. Yes. How long have you been here?

SPEAKER_01 0:46

I've been here seven years now.

SPEAKER_02 0:48

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 0:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 0:49

What's that like?

SPEAKER_01 0:51

Oh, it's uh a good number.

SPEAKER_02 0:53

It's great. I agree. Like I only work here, but like I'm gonna get on that plane kicking and streaming because I'm I think I'm from Nashville. If I could sing, I'd be here. I would totally be here.

SPEAKER_01 1:05

You know, a lot of people want to be in America, number one. Right. Because I've been able to travel around the world, and you know, it's amazing how many folks want to live in this great country. And then the second thing, a lot of people who, of course, you know, even if you're not an artist, they want to be here. They want to be here in Nashville. There's just so much electricity.

SPEAKER_02 1:23

It's you know, my niece is with me, she's over in the corner, and I'm like, come, this is a vibe. It's just a good feeling, wonder. So you're raising kids in this crazy.

SPEAKER_01 1:33

And I've raised kids for now when my son is 17 and my my daughter's 14.

SPEAKER_02 1:38

You have a beautiful family.

SPEAKER_01 1:40

Thank you. I appreciate it. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 1:41

The hallmark, right? I'm gonna go home and watch you guys on like a Netflix special.

SPEAKER_01 1:46

Beautiful family. My wife is beautiful. I did marry up, that's for sure. Oh, stop it. Stop it.

SPEAKER_02 1:52

So you're originally from Houston, Texas. Yes, ma'am. Shout out to our Texas people. I'm a Texan people, so I love it. And yeah, I know it's a little mind exploding, but now I'm from the city of brotherly love.

SPEAKER_01 2:03

Interesting.

SPEAKER_02 2:04

I know. It goes two ways. People are like, I love tea sticks.

SPEAKER_01 2:08

That's colder up there.

SPEAKER_02 2:09

It's a little colder, but I mean that gets four seasons too, but it's colder and it's a lot rougher.

SPEAKER_01 2:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:15

Yeah, it's not it's not southern hospitality. I love Philly, don't get me wrong. A huge Eagles fan, and I love Philly, but you gotta have some thick ass skin to live in Philadelphia.

SPEAKER_01 2:26

Well, it's good, it's where everything started in the middle of the year.

SPEAKER_02 2:28

It is where everything started. And there's a saying with the sports teams no one likes us, we don't care, and and I get it. Like they threw batteries at Santa Claus, which is you know, Oh I you know, I didn't hear about that.

SPEAKER_01 2:39

That's that's not fun.

SPEAKER_02 2:40

It's not a nice thing to do. Just to just so I don't break your heart, it wasn't the real Santa Claus.

SPEAKER_01 2:44

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 2:44

So I don't want you to get it's that. It wasn't the actual Santa Claus. I'm gonna pick up this paper because I'm on the plane over here last night and I'm reading your and I'm like, holy smoke. Award-winning, country artist, singer, songwriter. Yes. How many songs have you written?

SPEAKER_01 3:00

Uh probably at least a thousand songs.

SPEAKER_02 3:03

What?

SPEAKER_01 3:03

Yeah. I have I think I have over crazy. Over 70 songs are published. What?

SPEAKER_02 3:10

And other artists are playing your music.

SPEAKER_01 3:12

Other artists have recorded my songs now. These are yeah, there it's just it's pretty amazing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 3:16

That's incredible. What got you started in this industry?

SPEAKER_01 3:19

Um well I well, I was signed uh early, early in my um adventure by a gentleman who invented the leck locking neck tremolo system for the guitar. Wow. Um his name was Floyd Rose. He's still alive, but uh he's a legend to legend. He's a legend to a lot of guitar players. Uh like for instance, Eddie Van Halen used his um mechanics.

SPEAKER_02 3:44

If you know anything about life cut short, Eddie Van Halen. Yes, life cut short.

SPEAKER_01 3:48

It was, but uh Floyd um really taught me a lot about the industry when I was very young, and um it was great. And so since then I've just been in bands and then of course now solo career. Um but that was uh sort of interrupted in my uh uh my journey. I I woke up one morning with encephalitis meningitis and I uh was paralyzed on the right side of my body. What? And I had a hundred and ten white blood cells in my um CSF fluid and uh almost died.

SPEAKER_02 4:17

Oh, I can imagine. Well, thank God you're here. Thank you, guys.

SPEAKER_01 4:21

Thank you, God, for that. That was a uh a moment. Uh but I I gave my life to Christ after that. I loved that. Um, and uh since then, you know, really focusing more on a singer-songwriter career, if you will, in a country artist career. Um before then I was in bands just doing Living Your Best Life.

SPEAKER_02 4:42

I literally often say, like, I want a tour bus for this show. I want a big black shiny tour bus with that sign on the back. And I'm like, I want to see what it's like to live on the road.

SPEAKER_01 4:53

It's it's definitely, I mean, be in hotels sometimes because obviously sleeping in a bus is it can get old. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 4:59

Um I sli I'm I travel so much. This show has got me traveling so much that I'm like, I'm on autopilot for you know, and and it's just like and Gail, boat friend of both of our. How do you know, Gail?

SPEAKER_01 5:13

So, Gail, um, she was the general manager for a um another hotel in town at one time.

SPEAKER_02 5:19

That's her job. She builds them.

SPEAKER_01 5:21

Yes, she does. And I was performing and I met Gail and she was so sweet to my family. My daughter is an artist, and she bought her art uh and since then uh she just yeah, she's very, very unique and very special. She's amazing. She's amazing. Uh Gail, peers to you, sister.

SPEAKER_02 5:38

We love you. Gail, we love you.

SPEAKER_01 5:40

We love you, Gail, of course.

SPEAKER_02 5:41

And this beautiful, this is the printing house. It's brand new here in Nashville. It's only been up a little bit, and she's like, it's slow. I'm like, girl, this is not the season. You're coming. It's gonna be crazy. They did a beautiful job, did they not?

SPEAKER_01 5:54

This is a first-class hotel. Absolutely. This is no other hotel like this.

SPEAKER_02 5:59

I mean, not to, you know, not be yucking their other yums, but yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:04

There really isn't. I mean, this has got a beautiful, you know, rooftop. Oh, it's so pretty.

SPEAKER_02 6:09

And come this spring, I'm like, I'm gonna be out there.

SPEAKER_01 6:11

I love the pretty good. Maybe I'll be writing songs for the episode. Oh, I love it. That whole thought of the songwriter and the creator. Yes. And and I know that's her heart behind it. And she's wonderful.

SPEAKER_02 6:20

She's one of those humans that if you're connected with her, your your life is better.

SPEAKER_01 6:25

It is.

SPEAKER_02 6:26

Yeah, and when we're like, we want to shoot, she's like, come on out.

SPEAKER_01 6:29

Shoot anytime you want. I love that we have a mutual friend. That is just awesome. She is amazing.

SPEAKER_02 6:34

I met her through another friend. She's friends with the other friend who I have been friends with for, you know, 35 years. And when she introduced me to her, I'm like, she's ridiculous. She's a ridiculous human being. I love that so much. She's so you feel instantly at home, you feel instantly warm and welcome. And she's not in today. She was in Vegas over the weekend. Yeah. But uh, she's coming in tomorrow, and I'm like, sh this woman is solid gold.

SPEAKER_01 6:59

Yeah, we've we've spent, we've done great things together, actually. Uh Gail and I have just I mean, performed at her hotels, and you know, she's been supporting what we do in terms of our giving guitars. I I know we're gonna talk about that, but um, but yeah, that's uh something that um she's just great.

SPEAKER_02 7:15

Well, shout out to Gail. We love her. Talk to me about okay, contemporary pop with country influence.

SPEAKER_01 7:22

Yeah. Well, I mean, you know, music has always kind of moved around and it's still it's very hard to put a yeah, a country music, right? I mean, and and and country music and even just pop and and and all kind of cla you know, if I think about, you know, Paul Simon or Stinger or whatnot, you know, you think about how they really brought in a lot of different world instruments from all over the world. So they were uh there was already pioneers. I mean, even the Beatles, when I think about George Martin. Yeah, absolutely. You know, and how he was very influential in their sound and he brought a whole different dimension. So I think music uh is always inviting a new sort of um sound or uh Yeah, I think it's great.

SPEAKER_02 8:01

And I love the the country mixing with everything. I mean, that I mean Post Malone and Jelly Roll and like I think it's so awesome.

SPEAKER_01 8:09

It's it's definitely shaking things up and a lot of uh traditional country players and I love the country music, I love traditional country. I'm from Houston, Texas originally. I lived just around the corner from from Mickey Gillies. Yeah. Um and and they call it Passing Get Down Dina. But you know, the thing is is that um, you know, music is just gonna change, just like technology. Absolutely, 100%. You you have to kind of embrace it but but respect the where it came from at the same time. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 8:36

I think it's such a it's such a I shoot a lot of younger artists too, and and to meet them, and then for somebody like you who's a legend to step in to that. And the I think the greatest thing about working with country music is the humbleness, the willing to help each other along, and like who can I help today? Who can I connect you with to make your life better? Who can I and it's yeah, it's an industry like I've never seen. I've never seen so many cheerleaders for other people. The world needs more cheerleaders, right? We do, and even for your children, like good lesson, like be loyal and and be humble and be hungry.

SPEAKER_00 9:15

100%.

SPEAKER_02 9:16

It's it is, it's such a great deal. Who are you working with now? Who's your do you have a label?

SPEAKER_01 9:21

Um, well, we are independent, actually. I'm an independent artist and uh covered by your pretty wife as your manager. My son handles all the tech, and my daughter does all the digital marketing. Uh, yeah, you've raised some good. Uh yeah, we homeschooled. My wife was a um algebra honors teacher for seventh grade and eighth graders for like 17 years in the public school system in Southern California. And so uh she uh, you know, I was there not in the classroom, but just by our side, you know, absolutely. And uh, and of course she was able to take that and and help the kids. That's amazing.

SPEAKER_02 9:54

So what where in California were you?

SPEAKER_01 9:56

We were in San Diego.

SPEAKER_02 9:57

San Diego, beautiful city, best weather in the universe.

SPEAKER_01 10:01

It is.

SPEAKER_02 10:02

What's it like coming from California to Nashville, Tennessee?

SPEAKER_01 10:06

I mean, it's great. I mean, really, Nashville. It's great. It is. It's I've had the best of both worlds if I think about it. I mean, I always joke around and said if God could bring San Diego and still together, the world would be a good thing.

SPEAKER_02 10:19

It would be amazing.

SPEAKER_00 10:20

I don't know if the world could take it actually.

SPEAKER_02 10:22

Well, the music industry is heading, you know, in LA and and in New York, they're all headed to Nashville. Yeah. It's gonna be the mecca of music.

SPEAKER_01 10:31

Yeah, it is already, in my opinion. I feel like this is music city everybody wants to talk about it. I agree. I think it's you can talk about LA, you can talk about New York, you can talk about Chicago, and and I and those are cities I've all I've been to every one of them. Yeah, me too. But it's it's a great thing. They're great, but and and but there's no every artist who really wants to to take a crack at it or make it a a real like profession that Right.

SPEAKER_02 10:56

You gotta come to Nashville.

SPEAKER_01 10:57

You gotta get yeah, you have to do it.

SPEAKER_02 10:58

Uh you know, and I know I've heard so many times it's a 10-year town. It's a 10-year town, you know, and um That's an interesting that's an interesting saying.

SPEAKER_01 11:08

I mean, there's been songs, one of my friends wrote a song about that, and and I think that it could be a one-year town, it could be a twenty-year town.

SPEAKER_02 11:15

Right, it could be a lifetime ride.

SPEAKER_01 11:16

It could be a lifetime.

SPEAKER_02 11:17

Right.

SPEAKER_01 11:18

It just depends on uh how you jump in and and where you you know, really it's a lot of things uh for me, I think, are divine. I mean just the the absolute the the relationships. Uh I've met some wonderful people here.

SPEAKER_02 11:31

Uh I've met the bait the best here.

SPEAKER_01 11:33

It's amazing. These folks are very humble, like you said. Totally humble. They're extremely talented. Um, and and it's just great to be around that kind of energy and and it can only make you better. Absolutely. Uh because then you realize, like, okay, I feel you know, sometimes you get ahead of yourself and think, well, I think I can, you know, do this, and then you need help to to really get to that next level.

SPEAKER_02 11:55

Whatever that's any, in any, you know, people are like, what's it like to have your own podcast? I'm like, this isn't my podcast. I'm the chick be on the mic. Like, this isn't that my name on it, but it takes like a thousand other people to get this inner working, and I'm only as strong as they are. I mean, they're my strength, they're the reason why we keep you know meeting people like you and following your careers, and and it's an honor to sit, it's a blessing to sit.

SPEAKER_01 12:19

I've seen and I've I've I've watched your podcast and they're great. I mean you do a great job. And I think you bring light to uh people that you know need to hear their voices get. Totally.

SPEAKER_02 12:28

I mean it's I uh when somebody tells me they have a guitar and a dream, I'm like, we want to we want to interview you. And then when I meet people like you, I'm like, the backstories and and CJ, who's a fantastic did you get to meet CJ at the bar? He was our guest. Oh wait, no, wait, I did meet CJ. Oh fantastic. He's like old, you know, he's been around a long time, and and just the wisdom and knowledge that's passed on to the younger ones. I mean, I think it's incredible. It is. I really do, and I love it here. Tell me how, after you got sick and you found Christ, yeah, tell me how that changed your career.

SPEAKER_01 13:00

Well, it did because I I decided that I wasn't gonna be in the rock, crazy rock band anymore.

SPEAKER_02 13:05

Right. Uh, which I love you still had the look, you could fit in a crazy rock band.

SPEAKER_01 13:09

I love crazy rock bands. I think they're fun and I think that they have a position in in in music. Uh, but I I'm I just had to kind of take to get out of that. It was too um crazy. That's a lifestyle. I mean, you right. I couldn't not have so what ended up happening was I uh got sick and then my wife uh was just so uh such a blessing. Um she stuck by my side when I was sick, and you know, uh my mom's like, you you need to marry that girl. Right, right.

SPEAKER_02 13:39

Put a ring on that, sir.

SPEAKER_01 13:41

Yeah, and uh she's probably hand you money.

SPEAKER_02 13:42

Go get her a ring. Bigger, bigger ring.

SPEAKER_01 13:45

She's praying that I would get it, and I'm I'm like, okay, well, so I I got it, and I was like, okay, you're right. The right thing to do is is to ask Kelly to marry me, and I did, and that was uh 18, almost 18, well, 18 years ago now. Oh, congratulations. Yeah, and uh and so um it's gonna be 19 in February, February the um February the 17th.

SPEAKER_02 14:03

Congratulations. When I hear of like the Cinderella story, you know, we live in a world where you hear so many. I'm like, don't tell me. I'm in my own bubble. I love joy, I love winning, I love happiness, I love helping. So when people I'm like, don't tell me there's a bad side to life, because I don't want to hear it. You know, and adulting, it's not for the weak. Yes, it's totally not for the weak. But you have such a beautiful family.

SPEAKER_01 14:29

Well, this story, you know, this this is a a God story, really. I mean, he could only have orchestrated everything up to now with my career, because it is tough to have a family. I don't know if in tow is the right word. Yes, but it but they are they're part of what I do, and they're with me every at every step, and they have been from the very beginning of my of my journey as a as an artist.

SPEAKER_02 14:51

So uh the memories that your children will have to pass on to their children. Oh you left a legacy piece.

SPEAKER_01 14:58

It's a crazy thing, and we've got now, you know, we've got a foundation, which is crazy how that came about.

SPEAKER_02 15:03

Yeah, tell me about the foundation.

SPEAKER_01 15:04

Yeah, uh so we have uh a foundation called Giving Guitars, and uh what we do is we go to homeless shelters, foster homes, atmosphere, drug rehab centers, domestic violence centers, we go to low-income schools, we have help veterans. Uh in around 2021, uh of uh I'd say probably the summer of 2021, I was performing in a backyard in Brentwood, Tennessee, and I happened to be performing really in the in the backyard God wanted me to be in. And there was a gentleman there that um uh owned the mid-Ohio pipeline and he sold it and made a lot of money, but he gotta have a lot of money to live in Brentwood. Cool. You gotta have a lot, and you gotta have a lot of money. And he wanted to use his money for something to help others to help others. And so he asked me, he's like, why don't you pray into seeing how God could use your talents? And so my wife was like, Well, you know what, why don't we go to homeless shelters and foster homes where people can't don't they can't afford to go to ho they can't afford to go to concerts, they can't afford a guitar. Absolutely they don't need they're they're at the very bottom of the city.

SPEAKER_02 16:00

We're gonna click all the links during the show, we're gonna attach all your links so that people can get involved and donate money and and you know, give back. We're people helping people.

SPEAKER_01 16:08

Yeah, absolutely, and that's what it is. It's others helping others, and so we've been to 156 homeless shelters across 24 states and three countries in the last four years and donated over 250 guitars. And well, you know, there's a lot of gave somebody a dream. Yeah, and somebody and they've worship bands have been started out of it, um music therapy programs, um, there've been contests that they have little be a star contests. It's just something that I never thought would happen, like just giving guitars. I mean, God is good. Yeah, God is good, right? Like it's so powerful. I mean, a guitar is a very powerful instrument. It is, it is mobile, it's it's something that you know most people can pick up and learn if you put a little bit of time and effort into it. Right. And it's a therapeutic instrument, really.

SPEAKER_02 16:54

Music is very therapeutic. I know you don't know a lot about me. Um I am a life coach and a therapist, and I work with addiction and trauma, and I work with veterans. Um, they're actually my favorite, like leading into our amazing sponsor into uh Freedom Brew was an entrepreneur, man who he was the grind. He was doing the grind, decided he wanted to be an entrepreneur. He gives a percentage back of all the sales of this beer and for suicide prevention and the patriot pause. And I'm like, we won you won this show. That's so special, you know. Absolutely. I think it everybody I didn't have a great childhood, which led me into the work I'm doing now because I think if we can make somebody take away the feeling of loneliness and smallness and that you don't have a voice in this world and we can give it to somebody, especially through a guitar and some music, yeah, we've just we've just created uh the most incredible people. And I tell my clients, I every one of my patients and my clients, I'm like, you need a fight song, what's your fight song? And through music, through music, people are changed.

SPEAKER_00 18:03

Interesting.

SPEAKER_02 18:04

So thank you so much. I totally get it. I I get it, you know.

SPEAKER_01 18:09

And I think that that's where we found that, you know, this the journeys that we've seen, the people that we've been around, the people that they've inspired us. I can't only the the stories that I've heard are just unbelievable. I mean, and you really the people that are you think of a homeless person and you think that's the person out holding the sign.

unknown 18:28

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 18:28

Until you get into the inner workings, right?

SPEAKER_01 18:31

Until you go to the shelters and you find we're like I always I always think about one, it was the Orlando Re uh Salvation Army. I was in Orlando, Florida, and the director was taking us on an eight acre tour of the entire property because I wanted to we want to see what what is this what is a shelter have, right?

SPEAKER_02 18:48

I think a lot of the world shuts that out. They don't want to know. But oh, no one's like, but we're all just well, you know, you don't know. You could be the next you could be the next Rockefeller or the next person in that shelter. Life is funny that way.

SPEAKER_01 19:01

He sees he's walks out to the door, and there's a gentleman sitting there, looks like a transient or a vagabond, somebody that I know has not bathed in six months. Right. And he sits down next to him and has a conversation, and he starts realizing that this guy has a level of intelligence that uh it just isn't very normal. So he comes to find out he's a brain surgeon.

SPEAKER_02 19:19

Stop it.

SPEAKER_01 19:20

So what happened was is he um lost his family in a car accident and one day he lost everything. I'm so sorry. That was just uh a story. This is one story that you hear, and he just spiraled down but couldn't get back up, and now he's on the street. But I mean that that can happen. It just reminded me of a- In a second, you don't have it anyone is a step away, unfortunately, from being a but and you have to have that compassion.

SPEAKER_02 19:46

I think people I mean I I tell, you know, my niece is here with me, and her mom is just she's a spiritual healer, and she's just amazing. But she has taught me, we've been, you know, friends forever, and she the gratitude practice. Like I before my feet hit the floor, I just say to myself, I don't write it, but like I say to myself, I'm grateful, I'm grateful for meeting you. I'm grateful for being in this beautiful space. And when we start with gratitude, it's really hard to be like that sucks. You know what I mean? And life is life, no matter whether you're at the top or the bottom.

SPEAKER_01 20:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:20

People who are billionaires, there there's emptiness and then a lot of lonely people in the world that money can't, money doesn't do it. Yes, absolutely. And and it's so true. And I think if there's ever a message that I I feel like when I speak, I I go tour and do some speaking, um, that I want to give people is we're all the same, coorally. Corey, we're all just trying to get through with whatever we have or whatever we don't have or whatever was taken away from us. Like we're all corely, we're just the same. We shouldn't be labeling people and we shouldn't be looking down at people. We're all the same. And in my world, we help each other. Yeah, we help along. Yes, you know, because it's the most when you see somebody uh change their life or the power of volunteering and seeing somebody get hope back in their eyes, it's uh it's worth everything you've ever done.

SPEAKER_01 21:17

Absolutely. And you know, the the Giving Guitars mission is all about that, and we get out and we're gonna go for the so there's 11,000 shelters in the country. Wow. And there are um over uh probably about a million people who are homeless right now. Um a lot of the kids uh are sleeping in DS DC. I know DCS offices. I mean and and it you know, there's just a there's a need out there for for hope and inspiration.

SPEAKER_02 21:42

So I there totally is beyond what you can get from a a therapist or a social worker or a hospital, there is such a need uh to give people hope.

SPEAKER_01 21:52

And there should be and really any one of those people are gonna do that. Absolutely. And it doesn't have to be just a musician. I think that it could be a a photographer, it could be Uh person that knows about landscape, whatever it is, you have a gift to give back. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 22:05

Amen. Um everybody And we owe it to this world, we owe it to the universe, we owe it to God, we owe it to each other to make sure that we're all we're all in the headspace that's a a good one.

SPEAKER_01 22:15

Yeah, absolutely. So we're we uh what's interesting, and I've I share this with you, we uh we started a I guess you can call it a social enterprise. I that's the fancy word for it. But what I noticed that was that when I go to these foundations that each one of them have like the Oasis Center here in downtown. Right. Have you heard of Oasis? Yes. Um they have a bike shop. Yes. So they prepare, they they take old bikes, they refurbish them. Um so almost every nonprofit ha that are that are homeless shelters have like a little what I would call a thrift store. Right. Um like in San Diego Urban Angels, which is a great idea. Something to for them to be creative to give back to to give back and also utilize some of those funds to kind of help their organization and get the people involved. Absolutely. We started something. That's amazing. We started web hosting. We started a web hosting company.

SPEAKER_02 23:02

That's so fabulous!

SPEAKER_01 23:04

It's called Beluga Host, and um we are a disruptor in a good way.

SPEAKER_02 23:08

And what I mean by that I'm a disruptor in a good way, sir. You knew me more, you'd be like, she's a force to be reckoned with in a good way.

SPEAKER_01 23:16

Uh and and what I mean by that is like you know, people are not super up to what is what is a web host? What is a website? Only 150 million people in the world have a website. I know. Eight billion people.

SPEAKER_02 23:27

And now it's ridiculous amount of money to get a website up and but the average Joe can't afford a website.

SPEAKER_01 23:33

They cannot. And now we've figured out a way to make it happen. And I'm so I'm just excited about it.

SPEAKER_02 23:38

We have we're and when you give that to somebody, what a gift, because you're giving them hope. You're giving them dreams, you're giving them motivation, you're giving them confidence. Like the list goes on and on of what it does for the body and the mind and the soul and the spirit.

SPEAKER_01 23:51

Right, and for an entrepreneur that's just getting started and they just want we call it the baby beluga pack. The baby beluga pack at all. What? You get you get a free email. You get an email, which everybody charges for an email. I mean, so for$34 a month, listen to this,$34 a month, you can get your domain renewed every year. Wow. And you get uh five gigabytes of a hard drive switch for your website. You get an email, you get SSL.

SPEAKER_02 24:19

This is a package that no one, no one on the entrepreneurs you're working with too.

SPEAKER_01 24:26

You are doing and my my son is actually the actually the the founder of it.

SPEAKER_02 24:30

I wish the fans, the the viewers could see this this Hallmark family. I totally see them in a snowstorm right now, drinking hot chocolate. Like I feel like I want to marshmallow these kids up and put them on. It's a most beautiful family.

SPEAKER_01 24:44

Oh thank you. Well, we've uh we have done we everything is done by my family and and my I'm of course I'm the only I'm the only one that stands on stage and performs. Uh but but they're behind every everything behind them.

SPEAKER_02 24:56

It takes a strong base to be right, like you can't be you without them. No, they're I'm just like the I'm gonna pass yours to every entrepreneur I know.

SPEAKER_01 25:05

Wow.

SPEAKER_02 25:06

And we're gonna link it. We we want you go work with Steven. Like, so important to realize that you know, it's you don't get sick time. I don't I don't have a I don't have a you know sick time, I don't have a 401k, I don't have like take it to my assistant every time it complains. I'm like, take it to HR. Hey, what are you gonna do, sir? You know? And um, but it's so true that we just grind. I was lucky enough to get hooked up with one of the best coaches when I was you know training, and um it was just great. But I mean most people, you start out, you come out of college, you come out of a training, whatever you don't have any money, you have no money.

SPEAKER_01 25:44

You realize that someone helped you along the way.

SPEAKER_02 25:46

Mm-hmm. So it's like I give credit where credit is due. My friend Brittany Hall, she'll tell you, she she does that, she scales companies. She takes companies and she takes them to their their greatness, and she taught me everything I knew about being an entrepreneur.

SPEAKER_01 26:00

That's and and and you'll share that with someone else.

SPEAKER_02 26:03

Totally.

SPEAKER_01 26:03

And help the next one in line. I love that.

SPEAKER_02 26:06

Yeah, help the next one in line. It's so true. And that's like my favorite thing. Like, I don't I don't understand why people have a nugget or or something and they don't they don't share it. You don't want this world to be the best it can possibly be.

SPEAKER_01 26:21

Well, you come into this world with nothing.

SPEAKER_02 26:23

Amen. If you came from my family, you came in with nothing and some debt. So, you know, like it's it's the truth.

SPEAKER_01 26:32

And it's just I mean well, and then you're gonna leave with nothing.

SPEAKER_02 26:35

Abs Amen. And if you have children, you're gonna leave with less than nothing. Well, you're gonna like nothing. They're taking the nap off your friggin' teeth. It's so true.

SPEAKER_01 26:45

You know, and I always laugh, you know, the the whole joke about the you know, the the hearse toe in the U-Haul, you know, behind it. But it's true, and I and I think that, you know, at the end of it all, what was what was it for?

SPEAKER_02 26:57

What was it for?

SPEAKER_01 26:58

Um uh and and and really, you know, the most in intelligent minds around or the most experienced or most talented people in in the world, yeah. Um you know, maybe it's harder to convince them sometimes of that.

SPEAKER_02 27:14

I I asked my clients, I'm like, what do you want people to say at your funeral? We're all gonna have one. How do you want to be known when everyone's gathering for a drink at your luncheon? What what's the story you want them to be talking about? Because we have a choice. Yeah, we can sculpt our own lives, and by you providing resources for people, you're part of their story to pass on. That must make you feel so good. Because people cared about people and people helping people. First of all, you're gonna tell where can the viewers find you?

SPEAKER_01 27:49

Well, you go to uh stephenkade.com, that takes you everywhere, but then giving guitars.org.

SPEAKER_02 27:54

Okay. Um we're gonna link all of this.

SPEAKER_01 27:57

And blue the host.com. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 27:59

So those those are all Go hang out with Steven, he's gonna change the world. I think that's so amazing.

SPEAKER_01 28:05

Well, I think that using a music platform for me, that's the way so I utilize I have everything kind of foundation is the music. Right. Uh of course there's God, but I mean in my family, but then there's my my career, and and I feel like that's what I know the best. Um if if I had to build a band in an hour, I could build a great band in an hour. If I needed to record, well to actually I'm going to record on Wednesday a new song called If God Had a Truck. I'm I'm excited to uh I would love it for you to send it to you. I need to I'm gonna send that and I'm gonna send you my other stuff that's coming out too. Uh a song called I Believe and another song called Better at the Beach, because I love Better at the Beach.

SPEAKER_02 28:42

You know, there's an artist who's from Philadelphia. Um, where I'm from. Well, we all know everyone out there, they're like Deb's from Philly. My husband's like, she's a present. You know she's from Philly when she walks in. But he is uh country, he lives here in Nashville now, country music artists. He grew down the Jersey. Sure, grew up in the Jersey, sure. Oh wow, and he's the same way, they're better at the beach. I'm like, life is better at the beach. It is better at the beach, and I've just wrote it's better at country music concerts, it's better with cold beer, it's better with great family.

SPEAKER_01 29:10

It is. It's a great yeah, we were just down at the Frank Brown International Songwriters Festival in Perdito Beach. Yep, and I got invited to perform there this year. That was a big honor. And uh so we met some wonderful people down there and gonna go back next year and do that again. Uh but yeah, I mean uh touring is part of what we do. We're touring about six months out of the year. Wow. Um we were all over. Kids and all, you're all going.

SPEAKER_02 29:34

You got a dog, is the dog on the tour? No. Don't worry, family, I'm pushing for the dog for you.

SPEAKER_01 29:39

I love dogs. I love dogs. We love dogs. We love dogs.

SPEAKER_02 29:41

I love all animals. I love children.

SPEAKER_01 29:43

Yeah, yeah, totally. I mean, I love animals, yeah. Uh but it's just tough.

SPEAKER_02 29:46

It's a rough life, no doubt.

SPEAKER_01 29:48

It's tough with the dogs on the road. Uh, we don't yet have that type of vehicle or you know, that type of setup yet.

SPEAKER_02 29:53

You will, because all dogs need a good home and all good homes need a good dog. Absolutely. I agree. Yeah, I agree. Leaving this to come, it's so funny. I was when we I flew in yesterday and I had my suitcase and my husband put in the car, and I'm like, I didn't want the jog. I'm like, don't let Lola see me because I'm so attached to this jog, right? And I'm like, mommy's coming back. Jump like a complete maniac. My husband's like, peace out. I'm like, yeah, peace out. But it's so true. Like, the dog means the world to me. You know, she's been traveling with me, she's she's 10 now, she's getting a little older, and I'm like, the joy and love that is come. She's 10, she's a King Charles cavalier. Okay. Um, she's the little, looks like a cocker spaniel, a little sexy city dog. She's just the coolest. She's the coolest. And and I love her so much. That's like she's getting chubby. I'm like, she's not chubby, she's overloved. She's overloved. I'm like, because I don't ever sit down, we're like, try this, mom. Like, it's just the best.

SPEAKER_01 30:45

Yes. Yeah, it is. Yeah, you spoil them, you spoil them. Totally.

SPEAKER_02 30:49

I did that kids, too. Yeah. I'm like, we got you. No one's falling on my watch.

SPEAKER_01 30:54

Right, right.

SPEAKER_02 30:55

What's the best advice anybody ever gave you through your career?

SPEAKER_01 30:58

I would say that um somebody had told me one time that you really have to keep your mind focused. Well, for me, it's, you know, somebody said just keep your mind focused on faith. That's it. Uh, because it takes faith in anything that you put your mind to. Totally, it does. Uh if you're if you're a quarterback for the for the Philadelphia Eagles.

SPEAKER_02 31:19

That's right. Who better damn well win tonight or I'm getting my tattoo taken off.

SPEAKER_01 31:24

You know, it does. It takes faith. And so I think that that was some of the best advice. Just stay in the game, keep persistent, um, don't give up. Have faith.

SPEAKER_02 31:34

Right.

SPEAKER_01 31:34

Um, and and you can apply that to anything.

SPEAKER_02 31:37

Anything. Have you passed that on to your children?

SPEAKER_01 31:39

Oh, absolutely. They're they're way better at it than I am. I mean, they're they're getting all.

SPEAKER_02 31:43

But you know, it's so if you trust and you believe in in what is gonna happen and and the universe, you know, and God giving back to all of us just by sitting here, it will come true.

SPEAKER_01 31:55

It will. And I've seen God work in my life so many times, it's ridiculous. And so, you know, I'm just uh thankful to be here with you sitting here at the happy hour. At happy hour with Deb, right?

SPEAKER_02 32:05

I mean, people are like, you have your own podcast.

SPEAKER_01 32:07

I'm like, this is not about me. In Nashville, I mean, uh downtown at the printing house, talking about music and helping people.

SPEAKER_02 32:14

I think this is this show has only been it's about a year and a half old, so we kind of hit it running, and um I love it. I mean, the biggest thrill in my life I could sit with you all day. Yeah. The story But I could sit with you all day. Right, it's just such a it's so amazing to me that the thought of somebody that is 15 that has a guitar and a dream. I mean, look we live in a very different world now, you know. It's a little scary out there, and there's no plan B. That's what I'm doing. And I just think it's so inspiring.

SPEAKER_00 32:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 32:49

It's to me, it's like we're superhuman, we can do anything we want to do. Can you know? Have faith, yeah, trust and believe, have gratitude for what's been brought in your life. And we were I was talking about that with the last hours with CJ. Like we wake up every morning and we have another chance to be anything we want to be. Absolutely. Don't take that time for granted, and don't go into it negatively.

SPEAKER_01 33:13

And it sounds a little cliche, and I think that people it this was a term used, especially during the time they shut the whole world down.

SPEAKER_02 33:20

Oh god, I still have some pee I see people en masks in cars. I'm like, I have some damn PTSD, put that away.

SPEAKER_01 33:27

You know, but during that time, it was so scary. There was something happening, and actually there was a community that was formed. Not many people know about it, but it was an application that was released called Clubhouse. And um it was a little underground community, and essentially people were so they were so like crazy going crazy in their house that they needed to have some interaction with people. Totally.

SPEAKER_02 33:49

So uh we're humans, we thrive off other humans. We're not we're pack animals. No, we're supposed to be together.

SPEAKER_01 33:55

You gotta rub shoulders and it even when there's friction, it's okay. I mean, it's dissonance, it's like music. You gotta have that. And and so I think that uh what what we were doing was we uh I found that people were talking about the why in life. And it was interesting, and they dove dove deeper into that. Yeah, and then of course there's there's a lot of books on that and everything. But I mean, I think that one of the things with whatever you do, whatever you chase, I think you should think about why am I doing this? Right. Because I've heard stories where people are a little bit ambiguous to to not knowing why they're doing it. Right, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 34:29

Well, my father was in music. I'm like, this is your story, it's your story.

SPEAKER_01 34:33

You know, write your own story. Right, and and and you know, or if it's you know, whatever, if you're gonna make it a liquor company, whatever it is.

SPEAKER_02 34:40

Right, anything you want to do.

SPEAKER_01 34:42

Whatever you want to do, just know that you have there's a there's a purpose behind it, you know. Absolutely that will help you get because I've heard stories where like, well, I I started this little gadget, and the reason I need it, because I needed it for this. And I was like, Right, okay, well then you had a purpose for that. You just didn't just pick something, you didn't spin the roulette wheel and just say, right, I'm gonna be a breadbaker.

SPEAKER_02 35:03

Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_01 35:04

I mean, so and the bread bakers, man, I tell you, God bless them.

SPEAKER_02 35:07

Love me some carbs, bread bakers, keep on going. Yeah, it's just very to me, you're not trait chasing a dream. You're living your life if you live it with purpose. And I don't I don't want anybody else's life, you know? And even when we start this, people are like, let me show you the easy way. I'm like, I don't want to know the easy way.

SPEAKER_00 35:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 35:28

I don't, I I mean, I'm sure they're out there, but I don't want to know the easy way. Right. What's unique about this show is we celebrate humans.

SPEAKER_03 35:35

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 35:35

And I don't ever want that to go away. Right. Ever. Like I want to be the voice for the people who don't get to meet people like you.

SPEAKER_03 35:42

Well, I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_02 35:42

Who would be like, I'd love to meet Steven, right? You know, and it's so it's so rewarding. Like, even looking back on the show, or somebody will send me something and be like, I saw your show and Stephen was on, and guess what? I'm getting involved. And to me, I'm like, my job is done here. Yeah. Right? Like, we've just changed somebody's world. Absolutely. And to me, that's what we need to do.

SPEAKER_01 36:02

That information helps everybody.

SPEAKER_02 36:04

Everybody. Yeah. Everybody. And I'm like, just being be kind. It just be costs nothing to just be a good human. Yeah. It costs nothing.

SPEAKER_01 36:13

Yeah, it doesn't. It doesn't. It's interesting. We were in church on Sunday, and uh uh our pastor was talking about Southern Baptist Church.

SPEAKER_02 36:20

Southern it was very nothing like you have not been to a Southern Baptist.

SPEAKER_01 36:24

Go to our church, First Baptist Church of Hendersonville. What's interesting about our church?

SPEAKER_02 36:28

Uh one of my dear friends lives in Hendersonville. I shot at Birdie Bros one time. What a great little town. Oh my gosh. Love Hendersonville.

SPEAKER_01 36:35

Hendersonville is great.

SPEAKER_02 36:36

It's a great town.

SPEAKER_01 36:38

Johnny Cash went to our church.

SPEAKER_02 36:39

I know Johnny Cash is pivotal from Hendersonville.

SPEAKER_01 36:43

Hendersonville. And uh and so does the Gatlin brothers go to our church. The Statler brothers go to our church, and the Oak Ridge boys go to our church.

SPEAKER_02 36:49

I shot the Oak Ridge boys. I've had them on my show.

SPEAKER_01 36:52

Oh, I l you know what? Their their family, the Oak Ridge Boys family. I know um their daughter's husband, Paul Martin. Paul Martin is uh, you know, he's uh was in a band called Exile and and uh great musician, great family, that family's all fam music family. Uh but uh but the the point is is that in in church our our pastor on Sunday was saying, you know, that Joseph never said a word in the so if you if you know about the the the you know obviously the the the story in the Bible which is a fact, I mean I believe it's real, uh that you know there was Jesus, Mary, and Joseph. Right so Joseph never said anything. If you go and study, but he had the scripture talks about how he had he was obedient, he was kind, he was compassionate. And I think that's so it's so interesting that you're talking about being kind and being compassionate, forgiving people, which is difficult at times uh too.

SPEAKER_02 37:46

You know, forgiving doesn't condone what went on, but it's freeing you of carrying the burden. Right. You know, it really is. And we don't and and you know you've had to forgive people, I'm sure people have had to forgive you, they've had to forgive me, but it's too heavy. We're not meant we're human beings. We can only bend before we break. And and it's very you got you have to forgive. It doesn't mean that whatever happened has less importance, it just means you're not choosing to let it run your life anymore. Absolutely. And I think please forgive, you know.

SPEAKER_01 38:21

Absolutely. It life's too short, and it's it's not, and I will admit, I mean, it's not easy to forgive. I mean, I think anybody out there would probably tell you some circumstances it can be, but you you got I think you really have to.

SPEAKER_02 38:33

You have to. The only way you'll free your own soul is to unburden it from that, and that is something that will grow like a cancer, it's not gonna get any smaller, you know, and it is and it's you know, it's a process. It's totally a pro I had a first husband, sir.

SPEAKER_00 38:49

It's a process, you know.

SPEAKER_02 38:51

But when you step out and don't look at it from the broken part or the part that steel needs to be healed, or the part that needs a little fine-tuning, you see we're all just doing the best we can. Yeah. Or hopefully we're all doing the best we can. Right? And everybody, nobody hits my age of 29 years old that doesn't have some baggage, you know, that doesn't have and I think as you get older you start to admire imperfections. You know, like you're like, that's the person I want to be with, because guess what? They're weird, they're dumb, they're silly, they're whatever, and you're like, that's my person.

SPEAKER_01 39:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 39:27

You know, and I think we need to be more like that. And people like you spread that word. Is it like blow your mind? I'm not famous, but is it blow your mind that like people know who you are? And that you're famous.

SPEAKER_01 39:41

Well, I think that it it is it's it's humbling. It's very humbling, and I think that you know, if you if you were to talk to maybe, I mean, Elvis Presley was famous. You know, she was very famous. And I mean Taylor Swift is famous, yeah. She's very famous. But there's other people that are infamous, you know, which is interesting. Yeah. And and I think fame, it I always uh think about what it when you have fame, you have talent, and you are wealthy beyond means, right? That is the recipe for potentially disaster. Totally. I mean, I don't know that many humans can really take that. Right. There's maybe a handful, and I mean I I think about people who have gone and kind of like Chris Cornell. Yeah. I mean, there's you know, there's Tom Petty. Yeah. I mean, a lot of people have left this planet early. Too early. Elvis was one of them. Elvis was one of them, and I think it's because that a lot is thrown at a human. It's a lot. A lot of things.

SPEAKER_02 40:32

And I told you before, like, we're meant to bend, we're not meant to break. And fixing broken is not as easy. But I do tell all my clients and all my patients that when somebody breaks their arm, we don't chop it off and throw it out the window and be like, or when a baby starts crawling, we don't push them down. You know, if they stumble, we're not like you're not a walker. Yeah, you know, like we're we're supposed to reset, right? I mean, you know, can you imagine telling a small child if they stumble, you're not a walker? Like it's just you know, like I think people we live in a world where things have to look a certain way and we're so hyper-focused on what people think of us. Yes, ridiculous, right?

SPEAKER_01 41:12

It is, it is, it's crazy.

SPEAKER_02 41:14

It's so freeing when you can teach people to step out of worrying what that person who you'll never meet or never know or maybe know, and you know, we all have our circle. Some people come for a short time, some people come from a long time. Yeah, it is freeing.

SPEAKER_01 41:27

Well, it is freeing. I love the way you just said it earlier, how you wanted Happy Hour with Dev to grow at a pace where it was. Totally. I mean, I I think that's there there's a lot of wisdom in that. Um because you know, anybody could just go out and and try to fund something to make it look, you know, today that's what it is. Perception. It's been like that forever.

SPEAKER_02 41:47

It's all right, longer than we've been around that way.

SPEAKER_01 41:50

It's been that way. It's just today you can do it with just a a phone.

SPEAKER_02 41:53

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 41:54

In about an hour.

SPEAKER_02 41:55

Absolutely. I mean maybe less, not even an hour. What like what's your theory as a parent on the constant being plugged in?

SPEAKER_01 42:01

Well, we try as much as we can to keep our kids off of social media. And what the thing is is that kid you can't completely close anybody off from the world. And nor do you want to.

SPEAKER_02 42:12

I mean, we have to make sure they can survive when you're not around.

SPEAKER_01 42:15

It's just good judgment, good discernment. And and my wife and I like we pray, and our kids every morning we have a Bible study. And we we get into scripture together, and if we miss a couple days and we catch up, but but starting the word starting the day in God's word is very very powerful. Yeah. Um no one's a perfect parent.

SPEAKER_02 42:36

Nobody. There isn't, you know, and remind your kids of that. Because someday they're gonna be like, you Daniel, like doing the best I could, damn do.

SPEAKER_01 42:44

But I do say that we have the perfect parent.

SPEAKER_02 42:47

Totally.

SPEAKER_01 42:47

We have the best example. We do. Um and we per and I'm speaking for myself, that sometimes I don't want to listen. I mean, that's facts. It's just meaningful.

SPEAKER_02 42:58

I can do a better way. Right.

SPEAKER_01 42:59

Yeah, I can get ahead, I can I can talk less, listen more. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 43:04

Is great advice for people, right?

SPEAKER_01 43:06

Because you know, Nashville is a town of listeners, actually. Totally. That's what this And you don't know who's standing next to you here.

SPEAKER_02 43:12

I think it's so great that you go out and just be like, I'm like, You're so right.

SPEAKER_01 43:16

The other night I was performing in Leapers Fork. Have you ever you ever been out on Leapers Fork, you gotta get down there. In fact, I'm performing there this Thursday, but um, it's a place called the well, I play all around Leapers Fork, but there's a place called the Tornado Room. And it's under the Country Boy restaurant. And it's a little speakeasy, and probably only 50 people can fit in there. Wow. And so I was performing there the other night, just rocking out, you know, having fun.

SPEAKER_02 43:39

This is like your own little backyard spirit.

SPEAKER_01 43:42

Everybody's in and we're all in it, and then all of a sudden this br you know, this guy walks up and and he starts playing the congas while I'm playing, and I'm like, yeah, he's rocking. Let's go! Oh, we were it would just it just kicked up. And and come to find out it's Kev Mo. Stop it!

SPEAKER_02 43:58

That's beautiful. I'm like, what's up? The power of connection, right? And the music that brings it together. I have to tell you, you're so very humble.

SPEAKER_01 44:07

Oh, thank you. You really are.

SPEAKER_02 44:08

When I'm like, you're a legend, you're like. Oh, thank you. Take a compliment. You're well accomplished. Thank you, and thank you. Thank you. You have a beautiful family. And all right, I have to ask you one question. We're gonna talk more for short. Will you come back and keep sharing stories? Oh, yeah. Will you definitely come back?

SPEAKER_01 44:27

I'm a part of the Happy Hour Dead program.

SPEAKER_02 44:29

Let me tell you something. It's not a cult, it's a blessing.

SPEAKER_01 44:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 44:34

Happy Hour Family. I tell everybody I'm like, it's a big step now because I have this beautiful office at home. Sure, my husband, I love you the most in the world. Um, beautiful, and I have a picture of every artist that's been on the podcast in a white frame on a very dark blue wall. Wow, that's cool. And it's my wall of fame. And my clients and my patients are like, is that your family? I'm like, yeah, that's my Nashville family.

SPEAKER_01 44:57

That is cool.

SPEAKER_02 44:58

I'm like, that's what I'll I'll take a picture and I'll send it to you. That is so cool. It is so cool. And I'm like, it's my wall of fame. And now it's grown one wall, another wall, back to the next one. Beautiful. It's my wall of fame. And I'm like, every and your picture will be up there next week. Every single person that is up there has changed my life in some way.

SPEAKER_01 45:18

Well, I'm thankful to know you. And it's interesting you say Wall of Fame. I'm working with an entertainment company called Wall of Fame. Oh, really?

SPEAKER_02 45:25

See, we were meant to be friends.

SPEAKER_01 45:26

That's it.

SPEAKER_02 45:26

We were meant to be friends. So you'll come back, you'll share more. Absolutely. Um, we gave to the viewers where to find you. If there's any way I can help and volunteer and donate time or anything else, please, please reach out to me because I think the power of us being together is so strong.

SPEAKER_01 45:42

It's great.

SPEAKER_02 45:43

And I'm so happy that you're here. And I love your family. And I wish you just the best holiday season ever, my friend.

SPEAKER_00 45:48

Back at you. Yeah, I can't wait till you come here.

SPEAKER_02 45:50

Merry Christmas. It's the most wonderful time. I'm going on a sugar cookie diet as soon as I get home. Because I knew we were shooting, so I was like, all right. It lasted until like last Monday. It lasted till about Wednesday.

SPEAKER_00 46:01

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_02 46:02

I'm a little buddy the elfish. I love sugar and I love people being around. And my husband's like, she's a little buddy the elf. She's a little Susie talks a lot. So I said to all my friends and my family, I'm like, my plane is I'm going in throwing back Thursday night. I'm like, Friday, sugar cookie diet.

SPEAKER_00 46:19

Oh, hey, there you go.

SPEAKER_01 46:21

And we'll we'll purge on the first. Good. I'm gonna keep you in prayer that you can beat that challenge.

SPEAKER_02 46:27

Oh, don't worry. I became a grandmother recently, right? No, she's just a baby. Thank you so much. Her name is Lainey, spelled like Lainey Wilson.

SPEAKER_01 46:34

Oh my god, it's beautiful.

SPEAKER_02 46:35

She's beautiful. She's beautiful. She's changed our lives. The joy that one human being in seven, eight months now has brought us is it's mind exploding. It's just the joy, like this, yay! This is my life. Yay! Right?

SPEAKER_01 46:50

You know what? And that is a great thing to experience. I can't, I don't know. Oh, it's it's ridiculous. I mean, I hope everyone gets suited.

SPEAKER_02 46:57

I hope so. I hope that, and you know, like she did this last time I saw her. I'm like, clear the room. Gigi's here. Clear the room. I love her so much. I said to my husband, I'm like, she loves me more. He's like, everybody loves you more, Deb, that's who you are. It's like, of course you do. He's like a stage presence.

SPEAKER_01 47:14

But thank you so much. That means an awesome grandmother.

SPEAKER_02 47:19

First of all, I'm only 29, Steve. If you run into, when you see Gail, be like, Deb's 20, she's rocking it for 29. Oh, my birthday cake, it says 29, because I know life is an attitude. It is. It is 100% amen.

SPEAKER_01 47:32

I mean, I'm like, wow, go, you know.

SPEAKER_02 47:34

Go. Right.

SPEAKER_01 47:36

He's gonna be 100 and I think eight, four, five, eight, or something.

SPEAKER_02 47:39

There's a no-shot with my sugar addiction I'm making till 108, but I'm gonna try and go as long as I can. I do, I try, and I'm like, by Wednesday, I'm like, I don't stop. Thank you, my friend. I'm looking forward to you coming back.

SPEAKER_00 47:52

Thank you so much.