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Hazelwood Hot Rods Podcast - Paint & Body Time with Red Barn Restoration!
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Everybody, welcome to another episode of Hazelwood Hot Rods the Podcast. This is our third episode. Last week we had uh Tim Singleton of Trendsetter Worldwide. Uh today we got a special guest with us. Before we uh introduce him, I want to make sure everybody knows to get out there to Twisted Root Burger Company on Saturday, September 12th. Uh we are hosting a car show there. It's a top 30 show with special awards. So there's about 40 to 50 awards there. Um something new we're doing. It's a top 30, not a bunch of classes. Um but it's a it'll be a fun show. Make sure you come in on the Burger King side uh of that uh entrance so that it's not too bad for low vehicles. Um and then next week I'm gonna go ahead and get out there. Miniola Iron Horse Festival, 100% custom trophies, 100% benefit for Miniola Chamber. Um yeah, we're gonna get into some stuff talking with uh paint and body guy this this time. Uh and this is kind of what we're gonna do, wide range of different things. I had Tim Singleton talking about car shows and all over the different areas that he does, plus the you know, our shows. And uh this one we're gonna introduce uh Dwayne Joslett, Red Barn Restoration, uh out here in Canton, Texas. And we've got we got him on the phone today, and uh we're gonna do some talking about some of his projects, some of his favorite projects. I know he's got a couple of square bodies going on, uh, and uh he's got a bunch of custom work going, which kind of brought me to the topic of today's deal about custom painting body shops compared to you know the ones that are the insurance uh only body shops, and it's hard to find the custom ones anymore. Uh, but without further ado, uh Danny, you want to introduce yourself and and uh appreciate you coming on here today.
SPEAKER_00Yes, sir. Thank you, Jeremy. Um Dwayne Jocelyn with Red Barn Restoration and Collision. Um been in uh the body industry for about four years now, and uh it's uh changed dramatically in the last say 15 years at least. Uh it used to be most of the shops were insurance, and uh saying there were some custom shops out there, but not not very many.
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_00So but uh uh it it is it's getting hard to find the custom shops now. There was one here in Kenton that's been around forever, and I'm sure a lot of people know of uh Hat Seals, but uh he's finally he's finally uh slowing down, he's getting up in age and he's finally slowing down and wants to retire and you know get out of it. So I've saying there's there's good and bad things in the uh collision industry that a lot of shops, you know, insurance companies uh really when you're doing insurance work, they have programs that you get on to get work.
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_00And it they put they put a lot of pressure on you as far as uh cycle time and and things of that nature, and it's getting harder and harder as a body shop to make money because they I mean they keep you at such a a chokehold that yeah, it's crazy.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, because they keep you at the very minimum bottom dollar of getting a car fixed.
SPEAKER_00So yes, you give them a discount, and you know, a lot of shops, you know, they run on volume, you know, and some of the smaller shops, they can't even get on the they can't even get on the program because you have to have uh certain equipment and things of that. You have to meet standards uh as far as the shop goes, uh iCar certified, uh furning machines, uh spot welders, things of that sort. And so your smaller shops, you know, they struggle with stuff like that.
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_00And uh that's the that's the side that you know, I'm a small shop, and that's the side where I gotta do insurance work, but as far as I'm not on any programs, so it's all word of mouth stuff.
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_00And and I'm not I'm not selling my soul to uh to give an insurance a discount when they don't give us a discount, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, well they give you they give you a big discount, like I said, because they don't they don't give you what you know what really needs to go into these things to make them right. They just want to do the minimum stuff, and and you know, I had I had uh hell damage on one of my cars uh a few years ago, and it was it was like trying to pull teeth to get them to come off of enough money to replace the hood and and repaint the hood and all that because you know they were like, Well, it can't you just do the the dent repair? And I'm like, Well, the hood's dented so bad that it had to be replaced, you know, and and they didn't want to do it, you know. It was it's crazy how insurance companies just don't want to come off of the the money for fixing somebody's car when we pay in monthly in case something happens, you know.
SPEAKER_00So yeah, yes, and uh there's a couple of cars that I'm I've worked on here this past four or five months that you know some people know it's like Mark Woods El Camino.
SPEAKER_03Right.
SPEAKER_00It was an insurance hell job, and uh the insurance you know gave him an estimate and it was not even close. Right. Well, they do that because in our day and time, some people just like to cash out and not fix their stuff. So they just give them the bare minimum. And then what the if if you do take it in to get it fixed, the the body shop has to fight for their money and send pictures and document everything and things like that. And sometimes it takes uh like on Mark's car uh on the El Camino, Ruby, it took me at least two and a half weeks paperwork, calling the insurance, sending them emails, things of that nature to get the supplement paid. And I'm fighting that right now with another car, the 33 that I'm working on, uh uh Mr. Callahan's uh out of the May Bank area. Um they same thing. They account me. Well, first off, that car is on a special insurance anyway. So it's on a classic car insurance, car insurance, so it's a whole different animal.
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_00And uh it took me, it took me three weeks on that car. Out of my time on working on customers' cars, I had to be in here in the office, you know, like calling the insurance adjuster, going over the SMO with them. And what I struggle with, and most body shops struggle with, is the insurance adjuster emailed me and said, Okay, we've got your check cut for this amount, this amount, and this amount. And I it was like an off-the-wall amount, and I was like, Who did you come up with that amount? And he sent me somebody else's estimate. It wasn't even my estimate, it wasn't even my letter head on my email address, and I'm like, that's not my paperwork, that's not my estimate. None of that's mine.
SPEAKER_01So they sent you a whole other car estimate.
SPEAKER_00Exactly, and I was like, oh my gosh, I like you. So it I mean, we have to fight that. I mean, it's like that's the only part of my job that I don't like doing.
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_00It just takes so much, consume so much of your time and so much, you know, right effort in in just fighting when you shouldn't have to. Right.
SPEAKER_01You know, oh I agree, I agree. And like I said, it's it's just crazy. It's you know, they they wanna they want to do as little as possible, even though your money's going in monthly. They just want to do as little as possible because they don't want to come off that money, and and to me, it's not right, you know. So I mean you're in you're insured for a a good amount of money for the value of your car, and they still don't want to come off the money to help you fix your car, you know. And and then you got to battle with them. And that's that's the bad thing about it, is you gotta battle with them to get it uh to get everything done. And the battle takes more than doing the cars, you know.
SPEAKER_00So that's what I was just gonna say. You know, I'm a small shop, so I have, you know, like say two thousand, three thousand dollars in you know, parts and things like that, and I'm waiting on the supplement check. Yep, you know, and then two, three weeks later it shows up. You know, that's it's hard to balance your budget and hard to balance, you know, your your bottom line when you're waiting on when you're waiting on some sizable checks to come in. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So it's like, oh my goodness, it's it's yeah, sometimes it's we're just gonna so yeah, I get that.
SPEAKER_01And I've been around a bunch of different uh uh paint and body shops, you know. Eddie Siler is one of good friends of mine, Siler Paint and Body. And you know, he used to be years ago, it was all custom work, and now he's gotten into doing tons and tons of insurance stuff. And now, you know, of course, he's doing so much insurance work that he he doesn't do custom work anymore, you know, and it and it that's a shame too, because it's like, you know, he's his company is really good at custom custom work, you know, and uh, but they've gotten to where they have to feed off of that insurance stuff so much that they don't do anything else anymore.
SPEAKER_00So yeah, uh as far as custom work, there's not many of us out there anymore because the all the material costs have gone out of sight, and just the labor has gone out of sight, and there's not very many people that can do or pay what's needed to pay for you know, for even like I frame off restoration is crazy, right? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, it's it's gotten to the point where if you don't have some funds saved up, you're probably not gonna be able to do it. Yeah, but I I my structure, I structure my payment a little different than other people as far as you know, like payment goes. Yeah, I usually get like 20% down, and then I you I bill you weekly or monthly on hours that I put in the in into the vehicle. That way there's nothing, that way you don't have to come up with one giant lump sum at the end.
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_00You know, even if I work on your car two hours that week, I bill you for two hours. Yeah, I and I document it like Facebook, send pictures, things of that sort. And you know, it eases the it eases the the pocketbook.
SPEAKER_01Oh yeah, yeah, for sure. I know I know somebody else does that too. They whenever they work on the cars, they they uh you know, each week they they do a a billing at each end of each week, they invoice what they've done. Because I know you know, custom cars and and stuff like that, it gets expensive. I mean, and it and it drags out waiting on parts, waiting on stuff. And uh, you know, I know it drags out. So I I've seen it. And you know, you've got to do it that way. You've got to be able to to have money coming in weekly, you know.
SPEAKER_00So the 68 short wide bed truck that I'm working on, and and I some people don't know what it doesn't know, really know what it takes to do frame off. It's a frame off. I've got the cab off the frame, I've got the bed off the frame, I'm painting the bottom of the truck, bottom of the bed, inside the bed, inside the cab, inside the fenders. I mean, this is I mean, it's full blown, full restoration on this truck.
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_00And the and the gentleman's like, well, if you've had the truck five months now, I mean, I need it back. Well, most shops, most shops out there will keep uh full restoration like that for a year and a half, two years, right? Minimum, you know, minimum. And this, I mean I understand that he's the gentleman wants his truck back, but it takes an extremely good amount of time because I like to let the primers dry a week, a week to really dry up, shrink up, all they're gonna shrink out, you know, blocks in it, and then you have to reprime it, you gotta wait another week, you know what I'm saying? So there's a lot of process, you know, and especially the painting of paint or the bodywork goes fairly quick. Right. That's the that's the time that usually goes fairly quick. But when you prepping for the paint and all that, that's where it's time consuming because I usually block things out twice, right? You know, and if I miss something, I have to go back, repair that little small spot. You have to reprime that, and then you gotta do all the process over again. So I mean, and there's stuff that you know, if you're doing this big a job, there's stuff you're gonna miss, you know, the first priming, right? You know, and and then if something doesn't look right, you know, you gotta redo that, step over again. But uh it just takes time, and a lot of people are like, oh my gosh, you know, yeah. So you're gonna have my truck a year, and I'm yes, sir.
SPEAKER_01Yep, I agree. I had a guy reach out to me and say he had his car in the shop for a while and uh hasn't got it back. The first time I seen that car was in Brownsboro at a car show, and then it he had issues and had to get it put in the shop, and and I think he just got it back like last week, and that was April, right after April car show that that he had to have it put in the shop, and he's just got it back uh I think a week ago or so. But it's like, yeah, I mean it it takes time to do that stuff. It's it's not like you know, you go do a plumbing or electrical job or whatever, and you're you get the job done as fast as you can and you're done. It's custom work takes a while, and it's yeah, that's just the way it is.
SPEAKER_00So I try to turn stuff out fairly quick because I understand, you know what I'm saying? I understand, but when a job this big and this time consuming, it takes a while. Oh, yeah, you know, for sure. It's just not, yeah, it's just not like your average insurance job, you know. And like I said, I uh uh the 33, the only reason it's taken me this long is because part availability and things of that nature, you know. Right. There's not very many 33 Chevies left out there.
SPEAKER_01No, there's not. No, no, there's not. If they are, they're all cut up.
SPEAKER_00So yeah, there's only one. I've only found one parts place that sells parts for it, and a couple of things they don't they don't even have a park source for anymore. So I'm having to scramble around and I we couldn't find a front bumper, but I found a place in Aazel, Texas, here not too far from us, that straightens and re-chromes stuff bumpers for for classics and antique cars. So that's I sent my my phone-in-law, drove it down there for me and dropped it off. And so hopefully he said by the end of the week they're gonna have it chromed and ready to go. So you know, you know, so but when I first got the job, I called the one place that supposedly had the parts, right? And all of a sudden, well, we don't have a we don't have a uh supplier for those parts anymore. Oh my god. So you know, you deal with stuff like that.
SPEAKER_02Yep.
SPEAKER_00But you know, so you gotta scramble around and and uh figure out where you're gonna get parts for, or if you're gonna have to fix that. That's why I fixed the that's why I fixed the uh fender on the car.
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_00I could not find a fender anywhere.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So but you know, things of that nature, you know, we just have to overcome things like that. And you know, the fenders turned out really, really nice, you know, a couple of days, but hey, that's all part of it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, especially looking for something for a 33 Chevy. I mean, that's you know, that thing's almost a hundred years old, you know.
SPEAKER_00So yeah. You know, I found I found a I found a fender in, I think it was Indiana. Wow. And uh come to find out it was the wrong side. And I'm glad I didn't send I glad I didn't send them the money.
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_00You know, it was fairly, you know, it was fairly inexpensive, but you know, it was the shipping was gonna be more than a fender. So I said, I don't care, I just won't need the fender. And right before I sent the gentleman the money, I was like, hey, by the way, this is the this is the pastor side fender. And he said, Oh no, this is a driver fender. And I was like, oh my goodness.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, we did that, we did that once. We actually had a one of our sons had a G eight, and we found a fender, like a fender set for uh for a G8. And he's like, hey man, we gotta go to Knoxville, Tennessee. I was like, okay, when? He goes, Oh, that guy's gonna meet us there. He lives in like North Carolina, and he's gonna meet us in Knoxville halfway. And uh, so we were like, okay, well, we got in a car and went all the way up there, and turned out it was the wrong fenders, it wasn't a Pontiac G8, it was uh one of those Chevy SS. So we went all the way up there for nothing, but he paid our gas to go up there because he was like, Man, I'm sorry, yeah. So but yeah, yeah, it was crazy. So trip, road trip, yeah, road trip.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and I'm all for road trips.
SPEAKER_01I'm all for road trips, but it's like oops.
SPEAKER_00But and uh by the way, and uh we've got uh Jess Todd's 32 coupe in here, right was a sad deal, but he in the back of his mind he knew that it was gonna be a little bit more than you know just a couple of spots, right? Car end up whole cars peeling.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, the whole car had to be redone, huh?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, whole cars gotta be redone, and the uh part about but I mean it's 21 years old, it's a single stage, yeah, you know, and basically this it's a fiberglass car, and the heat in Texas just the hot, cold, yeah, fiberglass, the fiberglass body shrinks, expands, shrinks, and expands. Yep, and that single stage just couldn't take it anymore.
SPEAKER_01Yep, that paint just that paint doesn't expand with the fiberglass.
SPEAKER_00So no, it does not. And the the primer that they applied on it, they really didn't give a good mechanical bond on it, and it's kind of letting go. So but yeah, so I've I've got the cover, I've got that car about halfway stripped. So but I try to work on everybody's car at least once a week, twice a week. Right, you know, it just depends on what I got going on. If I get insurance jobs in, don't do I haven't done the very many insurance jobs here recently. Most of my stuff's been the restoration stuff, so that's good. What we were talking about earlier about the difference between restoration shops and and your average insurance shops, uh it's quick. The insurance deal is quick money. Yeah, you know what I mean? It's it's quicker than the restoration stuff, less headaches on on the back end.
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_00You know what I'm saying? Because you've got a car, you if you don't have room to store a car for like six or eight months or more, right, you know, and you have to wait on money here and there. And some people, some people like in the restoration side of it, they get about halfway through and oh my gosh, I don't have any more money. What are we gonna do? You know, things like that sort. You know, it's it's it's a trade-off of what of what you want to do as far as your your shop. Right. And I like doing both because I can squeeze an insurance job in. And I like I tell my restoration customers, have to do everything that comes in the door.
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_00You know, and if it comes in, sorry, but I have to stop working on yours to get this insurance job out because I have so many days to get it done.
SPEAKER_01Right. And plus it fills in that time between waiting on stuff for the customs.
SPEAKER_00So yes, yes, and that's like saying this last couple I had a garage truck that I did, and uh like saying I I'm 33 is an insurance job, but I've been waiting on parts, you know. Right. I just don't don't want to, you know, it's hard to put your eggs in one basket. Right.
SPEAKER_01Oh yeah, yeah, for sure. Well, and that's like us, you know. We're I'm an electrician and we we do residential houses, and we've got the big houses that take, you know, you go in there and you'll take a couple weeks, wire the house, and then you may not go back for for uh four to six months before you go back and finish it, you know, because everybody else got to get in there. But we use a lot of those smaller spec homes, you know, just to kind of you know, ninety day turnouts, you know. We we go in a couple days we're in, a couple days we're out, you know, and it's that helps knock out and fill that gap between uh Uh similar to what you guys are doing, you know, the gap between custom stuff and and waiting on parts and waiting on this, that that insurance helps get things in and out. It's kind of like just you know, kind of steady money coming in and out quick while you're working on something custom, you know. So and it's the same way, you know, because a custom house takes a while, you know, and and same up same with a custom car, it takes a while. Uh whereas like a spec, I mean you're you're in getting it in and out. Just kind of you know, the spec to me is like your insurance job to you, you know. So and it's it's an in and out deal, get it done quick and be, you know, get it back on the road or get it, you know, get it finished. So and I get that. I get that. So but uh customs, you know, of course everybody loves customs, I love customs, I love judging customs, and of course paint and body guys that know what they're doing make it really hard on me. So uh but uh you know, and that's a good thing. So um but it's you know, there's just uh there's just a lot of them that used to be more custom and turned into insurance because of you know the the the issues with trying to get uh trying to do the customs and the time that it takes to do them and stuff. So they've had to go towards the insurance stuff, just like you're saying, you know, if it comes in, I'm gonna do it, you know, because I got to, you know. So yeah, yeah, and that's the way it is.
SPEAKER_00You know, it it's been here recently, it's been the custom in the end side of it is being really good right now.
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_00Like I know, I know a couple of years ago, the I don't know what was going on, but uh I'm just gonna say the higher end or the upper class lost a bunch of money in the stock market, you know what I'm saying? So they weren't spending a lot of money on the radicals, right? Well, now I think the economy's so bad that the the middle class and lower class don't have the money to fix their vehicles and things like that. And the insurance, I was gonna say, and the insurance companies now are oh my gosh, uh the uh what do you call it, the deductibles. I'm seeing thousands, I've seen a three thousand dollar deductible. Yeah, you got three thousand dollars cash laying around right now for a deductible. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, and you know, and it's like now right now at this time of the uh in time right now, it's you know, people are wanting to spend money on their restoration stuff, right? Unlike the insurance side of it, right now.
SPEAKER_01So you know, so I get it, yeah. And those deductibles, yeah, it's funny because you know, when I grew up, it was always either a $500 deductible or a thousand dollar deductible. But uh, but yeah, it's it's gotten to where, you know, like mine now, uh the the finance company on my cars says, hey, you gotta have a five hundred dollar deductible, you can't be any higher than that, you know. And that's fine with me. I'm I'm I'd rather do that. Uh, but yeah, the insurance rate's higher, but at the same time, you know, who's gonna come up with three thousand dollars if if they have a fender bender, you know, and it's gonna happen, you know. Uh I drive my truck at work almost three to six hundred miles a week, and it's like there's so many people that you know, you see people that just they don't care and they want to they just want to get out in front of you or cut you off or or do whatever, you know, and that stuff that stuff is is what's causing a lot of these insurance deals is these people just don't care about who you are in your lane, you know, get out of my lane. I this is my road, you know. And uh and and I see it. Uh like I said, because I'm out there driving. There's there's a wonder that that truck has not been hit. And I'm I'm hoping, knock on wood, that it never will. So yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, well now they've received a check or they received the insurance check, like they're you know, they're picked and they've cashed out because you know, economies you know, pretty rough right now, you know, and it's like they need that to pay the bills.
SPEAKER_01Yep, and then and then also, of course, then like Texas, you know, they they stopped doing uh car inspections, so it's it's more uh people are they don't have to worry about it anymore. You know, you see a lot of weird stuff going down the road because there's no more inspections. And I I grew up on that because I was in New Mexico uh as a teenager also, and it was the same way. It was uh everybody there was no inspection. And I mean you had trucks running down the road, trucks running down the road with balin wire holding your headlight in. Uh, you had plywood for your doors. I mean, it was but it was nobody would really care anymore, you know, on that stuff. So it's it's weird to see all that. You know, when they said no more inspections in Texas, I was like, ugh man, you're gonna see some weird stuff going down the road now.
SPEAKER_00So it's funny you say that. We were coming back from church Sunday from Wendell and uh coming back to Canton, and there was a Mercedes, like a four-door Mercedes. It was when I come driving up on it, the rear end was torn up. You know, it'd been in a wreck. And I was I was like, man, that's a that's a nice car for being torn up and not fixed.
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_00I drive driving past it, and the front end was the same way. It didn't have a headlight in it.
SPEAKER_02Nope.
SPEAKER_00Both headlights were out of it. You're driving down the highway. Like, oh well.
SPEAKER_01Yep, you're gonna start seeing all the like when your taillights go bad or get wrecked and the taillights are gone, they're you're gonna start seeing the trailer taillights go in, you know, and tie tie to the car, or you're gonna you're gonna see the the old four eye uh headlights screwed down to the to the front end so you can have a light, you know. It's it's crazy what you're gonna end up seeing with stuff like that. And uh, like I said, I know because like I said, we saw it in San in New Mexico all the time, going between Santa Fe and Albuquerque growing up, and it was it it was amazing what you would see going down the road, you know. Uh you see them on Facebook, you know, all the time. People are going, can you believe this guy's riding like this? And you know, it actually happens. I mean it's it's weird. So yeah, but but uh yeah, the the whole custom car uh body shop, the the insurance stuff, you know, it it's always it's always great to see the custom stuff. I enjoy like you, I know you do a lot of restoration and uh recommend you a lot. Uh and uh but you you do a mix of both of it, uh, but we can see your pride in what you do at at your shop, and we appreciate that. And I'm glad you're you're on here talking with us about this stuff because I I know there's there's other shops out there, and you know, like I said, I had a guy ask me today about if if I knew somebody that would help put his 60, I think it's a 67 Fairlane back together. Uh and I'm like, yeah, I know I know people that can do that. So uh, you know, and so you know that's that's the cool thing about having people around that can do stuff like that. And like I said, you and uh hometown hot rodder, you guys are at the top of my list for referrals all the time, along with uh Bray's Museum or not Bray's Museum, um Rattlec upholstery out of Canton for any interior stuff, you know. Oh yeah, he's worked on my car and uh he does a great job too. So but you know, that's that's kind of why I started doing this podcast was to kind of just start pushing out uh hey, get information out for people that are in these Texas uh places to go, things to do, you know, car not only car shows, but you know, businesses that that deal with cars and things like that as well, you know, and uh and um that way people understand, hey, you know, we're out here. Uh, you know, we do a lot of the reels. I know you do reels, I do reels, and people all over get to see what's right here in East Texas, you know, not just you know, right in their area. So, and that's that's the reason why I do what I do and and why we post the reels and and get you know the craftsmanship out there that's right here in East Texas as well.
SPEAKER_00So uh I was gonna also say that uh my web guy uh he's got my new website up. Yeah, and uh we've actually added a area where uh you know I've I've already done one body class, right? But there's a sign up uh you know on the website uh at red bomb registration at collision.com that you can sign up and uh sign up for classes and uh first classes. I mean there's classes on there, you can just sign up for whichever one you want. It's not it it's whatever class $175 class and uh I teach you how to rush repair, body work, all that stuff. Like I said, there's multiple classes on there, and I like to see, I like to help the guy that actually wants to try to do some of this on his own, right? You know, right, and if you want to call me, I'll help you, I'll guide you through some stuff. Right, you know, I like to see that at car shows where gentlemen, you know, you talk to the gentleman because her car's got a story, right? You know, right. I like to talk to the guy saying, Well, I did this, this, and this, you know. Yep. Danny Anderson, one of them, you know.
SPEAKER_01Yep.
SPEAKER_00I mean, that car is beautiful.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, Danny did a heck of a job with that car, with that uh fair lane. Yeah. And I mean, that thing is unreal. You know, it went from a four-door to a two-door, uh, you know, I mean, whole frame off restoration right there in his shop. I mean, he did him and his guy, his buddies did a great job on it. I know there was, you know, some of it they sent off to do other things, but a lot of it he assembled himself and did a really cool job on that car. Uh, you know, I've I've seen that car sitting up in the air for years talking about when he got ready to retire, he was gonna start working on it, and he did a really good job on it. He's not even retired yet, he just went ahead and started working on it.
SPEAKER_00So so that's and that's I mean, he likes to help people, yeah, you know, because some of the stuff's expensive.
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_00You know, and some people don't have the money for really, you know, they can they can tinker with it themselves, right? You know, and if you know, I'm I I'm not gonna hide. I mean, there's no reason to hide what I do, how to do it, you know what I'm saying? Right. So if if I can get it out there, you know what I mean? Yep, I'll just show you how to do it, it's honestly right. It's the unknown. Most people I think it's the unknown of how to do it, right? You know, and I mean I can do step by step and things like that, but uh we caught the I mean you know, yeah, I'm like you.
SPEAKER_01I'd rather I'd rather teach, help teach somebody something, you know, and I'm I'm not a paint and body guy. I know, you know, of course we grew up doing stuff with my brother's truck, and you know, we did the Bondo, we pulled dents out, we did all kinds of stuff because he bought an old 72 Cheyenne back in the day. And uh he uh it was basically a farm truck, you know, and we pulled all the the wood trim off of it, made it slick like a gloss black, you know, filled all the holes in and did all kinds of stuff. He bought that thing for like 500 bucks in a field, and uh it turned out to be nice. Of course, this was back in the 80s too, you know. And uh but yeah, we did all the old dent pools and Bondo and and he actually painted it himself right there in our outside yard. So, but you know, of course that was back in the day too, so but uh yeah. Uh, you know, I'm working on one that luckily the guy that owned it before me did a ton of body work on it, and we're we're working on the mechanical side and the brakes and all that and the dash. You know, and two car tiny. Yes, we do. So, and uh we pretty much got the color picked out, uh, you know, and of course I'm I'm just kind of been doing so much shows and other things that that car just kind of takes a a wayside till I'm out of car show season. So but um but yeah, it's it's coming along. It's it's got some stuff I need to get for it, but it's most of it's there, so and it runs, it runs good. So um but uh yeah, uh the exhaust should be going on it soon. I'm gonna get a welder over here and we're gonna put the exhaust in and and probably get Dave Fazan to come out and help me get the exhaust set up. So but I've got enough pieces on it to where I can get the exhaust under it while it's up in the air. Uh I gotta get the brakes redone, uh, which I'm gonna be doing that here shortly. Uh but uh I tore all the old brakes off. I started to look at them and and once we got it up on the lift, and I was like, well, one of them is um froze up, so we tore everything apart, and now it's just waiting on parts to come in so I can put new stuff in it, you know. So you know how that goes. So yeah. Oh and then of course when you're doing a c a project, everything else gets in the way of the project, you know. So laugh gets in the way of the life, yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_00So that's what that's what that's what Leroy and Jethro are right now. It's less like yes, do a little bit here and a little bit there on both of them, and then yeah, everybody was upset with me stuff because I they said I threw uh Jethro to the side to work on Leroy, and it's like, well, Leroy's closer to getting running and driven because my wife's my wife's van, it it she blew a head gasket on it because it overheated on the hair the other day. So I started scrambling around to get something to drive because we were down to one corner. So it's like, oh my goodness, so I was like, I'm gonna get Leroy running right quick, you know.
unknownRight.
SPEAKER_00Oh, you're just throwing Jethro to the side. Well, no, Jethro has a lot more to do. Yeah, plus it's build-off, and I don't want to do too much. Right.
SPEAKER_01Right, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01So well, that build-off is the end of that build-off is coming up this year pretty soon, so it's gonna be really cool. Uh oh, I love it. You know, that it's so neat to see the projects come out there because you know, all these other car shows, you don't see something like that, you know, and being able to do a build-off at the SWAT meet is really neat because you know, everybody's got their projects. That's that's what the SWAT meet number one thing about swap meet is those are people looking for stuff for their projects and they come out and see what they got or what they're doing, and and you know, you get ideas from what what we do with our projects and stuff like that. And I think it's a really neat deal to mix it with the swap meet and the car show like that. And you know, we're gonna continue to do that next year. So and uh, you know, we'll have our second second build off starting in March next year. So right.
SPEAKER_00Well next year, next year I'm letting you know right now, and letting everybody know right now, I'm bringing a bear.
SPEAKER_01Bringing a bear.
SPEAKER_00They better be prepared. It's gonna be, yeah, it's this one's gonna be, yeah. So I've already got it. It's it's back here at the in the back shop. So we're gonna, yeah. So cool.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and I think uh I think the Blags 259 Classics, they already have their next project for next year uh as well. Uh they're already asking me about the dates so they can make sure they clean keep them clear and all that. So it's it's gonna be really neat.
SPEAKER_00This year was just a fun deal for me, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, okay. It's it was a learning, it's a learning experience, and it's been really, really neat for for uh everybody being a part of it. I it's hard to believe that the last one's coming up October 10th. So but uh but it's it's gonna be really cool and uh it's gonna benefit a great cause. Like I said, dudes for boobs. Uh you know, every time we do a the build-off, more money goes to dudes for boobs. So and and whether we're doing a show for them at the car show or not, the build-off stages go to dudes for boobs, and that's that's what's really cool about it. Um but uh yeah, that uh it it's it's it's a really neat deal. It's it's a learning curve, it's a learning process for next year. Uh and I think it's it's gonna be really doing really well uh going into next year. Like I said, we've already got people wanting to do it next year, you know, and be a part of it. So it's awesome. Yep.
SPEAKER_00And uh I like the I like the vibe, I like the energy. Yes, flags bring. I like my everybody, everybody that's in the build up this year, you know, it's it's we have a good mix of vehicles, right? And we have a good mix of you know, shop and individuals, right? You know, right, you know, and I'd like I'd really, really, really, really like to see more individuals get in there. Yeah, and don't worry, but don't worry about us, don't worry about our shops.
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_00You know what I'm saying? Because this it's this is for a good cause, yeah, and it's for and it's fun. Yeah, and it's that's basically that's basically why I'm out there.
SPEAKER_01Yep, and that's the reason why we did it. It's for a good cause, it's to get uh people what people are doing out there so they can show what they're doing, whether it's uh an individual like Mark Wood or an individual like uh Willie Rinley, uh, you know, uh or a shop, you know. Um now it's not it's not a shop where they're putting half a million dollars in a project and bringing it out, you know. It's but it's it's projects that are that are really cool and coming out and having a good time. And you know, you're not it's all about just having fun and giving back. So along with the shows, you know.
SPEAKER_00And that's why I kind of built Jethro like a bit, just to show somebody I did all this suspension work. If you've never seen pictures of it, it's sitting outside the shop. I did all suspension work in the grass.
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_00Just to show just to show that you don't have to have a five thousand square foot shop, right? Garage or anything. Do it where it sits. Yep, you know what I'm saying? I put the front low upper lower control arms, the spindles, the springs from a half from a three-quarter ton to a half ton, the rear end, the leaf springs, the lowering kit, all of that were right there in the grass. It was super hard pushing the jack under the truck. But I think is this to show you that with some oil, you can have something cool for a little bit of money. Oh, yeah. You know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_01That's that's kind of like the the Mustang that I'm building, the 69. Uh, when when we got the motor ready to go back in it, oh Eddie Siler, he came out and helped me. And uh me and him put the engine in it, and I and he's like, You don't have this, you don't have that, you need to get you need to get a lift, you know, like a lift or a hoist or whatever, which I had an engine uh hoist, whatever. But he was like, You need this, you need that. And I'm like, I said, Eddie, my shop is one step up from that shade tree out there. I said, it's got a roof on it. I said, I got my tools, you know, and uh, you know, that's that's about it. That's all we got.
SPEAKER_00And that's what I'm saying. It's the will that you want to get it done. Yep, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, that's that's that's the whole key about this situation, right? You know, like that light Leroy, like Jethro and Leroy, yeah. It's a patina bill, so there's no paint work involved. You can actually they sell patina sauce or or um or poppy's patina, right, and you can wipe it on with a with a uh yeah.
SPEAKER_02I heard about that the other day.
SPEAKER_00You don't have to spray anything. That's what's on that's what's on Leroy, right? It's actually patina sauce, it's a second patina sauce. You can literally take a rag, pull it on the rag, and wipe it on. So you don't have to have a compressor, things of that nature. I mean, you could literally patina, it don't have to match. It's it's it's it's gonna fade out. It doesn't the patina don't match the front to the back.
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_00So, I mean, and that's why I wanted to show like jethrope, you know, even though I painted the bed, right? The front part of the truck, there's no paint on it.
unknownRight.
SPEAKER_00It's just clear, it's just I cleared I cleared Jethro. Yeah, but I patina the I patina sauce the Leroy just to show you the difference, right? You know, yeah, and it still looks awesome.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it does. It looks really great. And I like seeing that uh that patina look on a lot of these older trucks and stuff, and seeing it, you know, like you did Leroy and and Jethro. And uh, you know, it's it's really neat to see that. Uh I even had that one that was out there in August. It was the golf pickup. I think it was old. And he did everything. Yep, and he won best paint out there at the show, you know.
SPEAKER_00And that's what Leroy is. The chunk was black. It was flat. Yeah, I just painted the whole chart black and then put I actually used some of the paint from Ruby. That's the red that's on it. Yeah, you know, I just I just did some effects, yep, you know, on it and continued it like that. Right. And you can do, and what's fun about patina is you can actually use like spray can from Walmart.
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_00Do the patina, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, and then wipe the patina sauce on it. So you like saying you could do the whole job without a compressor with some sandpaper and some spray paint. Right.
SPEAKER_02That's crazy.
SPEAKER_00And that's what I'm trying to show people that it's not rocket size if you just want to do something. Right. You can still make it look super cool.
SPEAKER_01Yep. Oh, I agree, I agree. And uh, you know, like you and Dave. Fazand and uh you know you guys you guys are masters when it comes to like this the paint. I mean he does an awesome job on what he does, and you do an awesome job. And uh it's it's really it shows, you know, the the passion and y'all's work shows really good. So um, but uh yeah, um was well uh let me uh talk to talk about a couple of sponsor stuff that we got going on real quick and then we will wrap this one up about 45 minutes into it. So um we appreciate you coming on, Dwayne. Yes, I think I had your name wrong at the beginning, but appreciate you coming on.
SPEAKER_00That's that's my thing. It's my first name when I go by Dwayne because my dad's name's Danny.
SPEAKER_01Gotcha. Gotcha. But uh yeah, I appreciate your support of the shows and uh what you do on Facebook and things like that. And I really uh you know look forward to seeing you at the shows and stuff like that. And we look forward to doing more podcasts with you as well. Uh as it as we grow this thing. Like I said, this is our third one out, and it's been doing really good. Uh every show hits the seven-day goal in one day. So um, so we're we're doing really great with it. Uh I think the last one had like 90 something downloads last Friday. So uh which the way that reads is like for it's like over 9,000 views or listens. So uh for every for every one or whatever, it's like a thousand views or something like that. So uh a thousand listens. So we enjoy doing what we do with this and uh getting the word out for like I said, East Texas, and uh we appreciate uh KWiz Radio, which is we're a part of. Um there's like four podcasts on it that uh every one of them that's a new episode airs on Hazelwood Incorporated as well. So uh everybody can listen to the KWiz Radio uh podcast group, as I guess we could say it's we're a group, and uh it's it's doing really well. And uh Brian was really excited about it, and I think we're adding he's adding two more podcasts pretty soon with uh a couple other people and another another rot like the Rodden Style podcast plus Mark Clemens doing a show uh as well. So um, but yeah, take a minute and uh I appreciate you coming on, Danny. Um I'm gonna let you go and and I'm just gonna do some sponsor stuff after this. So, but I appreciate you coming on here.
SPEAKER_00Yes, sir. Talk to you guys later.
SPEAKER_01All right, man. All right. Uh so we started up a sponsorship program. It's like $25 a month, uh $50 a month, $100 a month. We and uh we also we have Legacy Classic Insurance signed up immediately yesterday. Uh so thank you, Legacy Classic Insurance, for signing up for our sponsor program. If you hear this and you want to be a sponsor, reach out to us at hazelwoodincorporated.com. Uh send me an email, hazelwood, excuse me, hazelwoodhotrods at gmail.com, and uh send me an email about being a sponsor of our shows and stuff. Uh her logo is already on uh flyers uh for the car shows that we got coming up, and and you know it's a monthly deal sponsorship, or you can uh promote your event and pay for a couple months and uh up to your event if you want. We can talk about your event. Um but uh we do uh like I said, we do about 24 shows a year. Um and you'll get sponsors, you'll get the flyers, uh, you'll get talked about on the podcast, you'll get um on our website, all that good stuff. So uh it's well worth it to help support what we do. And uh, but I want to appreciate I want to say I appreciate everybody that listens, and uh we'll come up with some some more content coming soon. Uh don't forget this weekend is the Twisted Root Burger Company in Athens, Texas. Uh show is 9 to 11 registration. Uh it is uh 11 to 2 car show, and uh it'll be a lot of fun and hope to see everybody come out. Parking is going to be really cool. Uh trailer parking if you bring a trailer, it is Bell's parking lot, Walmart, or Elder Dodge Side Road. Uh, but there is no trailer parking at Twisted Root. So um there's a grass field out front if you want to bring your your trailer and park it right there. That's a good spot uh also. Um next weekend we have um Miniola Iron Horse Festival and car show. It's usually like 200 cars. Uh Dave Fazand is doing the custom trophies for it uh September 19th, and then we have uh Dragon Destroy 2 showdown at Forney at the OC. And uh we're looking forward to it. Like I said, it's a mixture of multiple different uh organizations helping put a car show on. You got Hometown Hot Rodder, you got Hazelwood car shows, uh Bonsai Cruisers, Wraps by White Boy Mike. There's a ton of people uh putting a show on together, Cars and Coffee, Rockwall. Uh so Forney, Texas at the OC, September 25th, I believe, 20 25th or 26th, whatever that Saturday is. And uh hope to see you guys there. I'll be there being a judge, and uh we'll have a really great time with it. And we look forward to seeing you guys soon and appreciate your support. And I'll have another episode out trying to do one every Friday. Uh, so we will get somebody on here and we'll get to talking and having a good time. So I appreciate you guys. Thank you.