The Hot Girls Club

Katie Cooper: From Curiosity to Confidence

Olivia Fleur

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In this episode, Katie Cooper shares the story behind starting her spicy page and how its going. We discuss boundaries, confidence and hate that comes from having a spicy site.  

SPEAKER_01

It's been a little bit inside of me has me a bit, I don't know, spicy or yet. There are a few videos that I've done that maybe I wouldn't have done in real life, but I sort of wanted to explore like a few definitely customs and like more fetishy. Quite a few friends in the swing industry. Yeah. Talking to them, getting him more involved in content as well. Yeah. I think has been really good for him. So Katie.

SPEAKER_00

Hello.

SPEAKER_02

Welcome to the Hot Girls Club podcast. Thank you for having me. Thank you for coming. Um, if you could start by telling me who you are, when you started in the industry, and what kind of content it is that you make, that would be great.

SPEAKER_01

Of course. So uh Katie is my name, obviously. Cooper is the second name I go by. So I started in the industry about three and a half years ago now. I started on just the platform OnlyFans. Yeah. And I just worked by myself, like did a few photos, you know, not too much, not showing too much, trying to keep it quite classy, I guess. Yeah. And it kind of went from there. A lot of people would request things maybe more than I was doing.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. So you were led by the custom requests?

SPEAKER_01

I definitely would say so, yeah, because I wasn't sure what people expected and what they wanted from me exactly. So it was quite good to have feedback on that. And eventually I started doing like full videos. Yeah. And then working with other girls and then eventually working with other men. Yes. Which was quite a big yes. That is a big step. It is a very big step. I feel like it's it's quite a scary thing to do. Yeah. Sort of, you know, just going out and just meeting like I know, you're a brave guy and you know, making a fairly explicit video together. Fairly explicit, like I mean very, very explicitly.

SPEAKER_02

This is like full-blown spawn, isn't it? This is, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So how do you let's just jump straight into it. How do you like decide who you would like to work with? Because I un of my understanding is that there's far more girls than there is guys.

SPEAKER_01

There is different.

SPEAKER_02

So you can be a bit kind of like, mmm, you know, I do I want to work with this guy? Do you think that's a good idea?

SPEAKER_01

Do you defend to them in any way? Um, I usually go by like friends in the industry.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So if they've had a lot of positive experiences, then I'm a lot more likely to. Yeah. If I haven't heard anything from friends, but I look at the guy and think, I think we'd really like vibe together and make a really good video, then there's quite a few group chats out there where you can like ask for references. Oh, is that? Yeah. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah. So you can like put the little like screenshot of his socials in and all the girls will be like, oh, worked with him, he's great, or like, oh, maybe not. Oh really? Yeah. Yeah, that's nice. So it's not purely based on looks, then you're not like he's fit, I'm gonna work with him. I mean, don't get me wrong, there are a lot of obviously fit guys in the industry, but I need to make sure I'm gonna be, you know, safe working with people. Yeah, definitely. It doesn't matter how attractive you are.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. If you're not a nice guy, you're not getting anywhere near me. So going back to the beginning then. So was this something that came about? Like, what was the reason that you started doing any fans?

SPEAKER_01

Um, well, I think basically I was just scrolling through TikTok one day and I just saw a lot of girls doing all these like dance trends, and I was like, oh, okay then. So I sort of looked into about I mean, I can't dance to save my life, but you know, maybe I was a bit deluded three years ago and thought I'll give it a go. So I posted a few like just silly TikToks, and then people would be like, Oh, have you got like another page? And I'd be like, What what what do you mean? Like so you didn't even realise that they were just advertising their spicy link. Yeah, no, I I was just like, I'm just gonna dance and make a bit of an idiot of myself. She's so cute, so sweet and innocent. And then yeah, I was like, Oh, what's this? And then obviously, like the OnlyFlands platform, and I was like, Oh wow, this is like a really big thing. Yeah. And I've got quite a few rescue dogs um that require quite a lot of vet bills. Oh really? So I was like, you know what, I could do with a bit of extra cash, you know, maybe I'll just do it on the side because I still had um a normal job at this time when I started. I was like, Yeah, you know, I'm trying just make a bit of extra cash to pay for a few things and see, you know. Help the dogs out. Yeah. So it kind of just started as that, really, and yeah.

SPEAKER_02

So would you say it came from a place of like you're a bit promiscuous? Is that something that you've always been, or are you sort of a little bit.

SPEAKER_01

I think there's always been a little bit inside of me. There's maybe been, I don't know, spicy's the right word.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

But maybe a bit curious about this type of thing. So I definitely think that's what led it.

SPEAKER_02

Um does it come from a place of like I want to show off, or does it come from a place of I want to experience other people? Like, tell me where it's coming from.

SPEAKER_01

I won't say I'm a very showy off person. No, yeah. But I mean, I do like taking nice photographs of myself. I guess it makes me feel quite good because I've not had that before. And like having the people online be like, oh, you look great. It's like, oh, do I? Thank you.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Yeah, it's lovely. And also it's sort of a creative outlet. Are you quite a creative person?

SPEAKER_01

It depends on my mood. I feel like sometimes I have some really good ideas for content, but then sometimes when I feel like I need to make some, I don't. So isn't that so? I try not to pressure myself into doing too much because I'm like the ideas will come. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

So you started off quite sort of vanilla?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I'd say so. When I first started, it was nothing more than topless or like art nude. No, nothing like, you know, down there and quite more artistic poses, nothing too and how quickly were you spreading the legs? Probably I'd say about two or three months. It didn't take long. Yeah, no, that didn't take long. No, it didn't take long. You were you were led by the like by the guys though, I guess. Like instead of saying they were requesting things. Anything that I wasn't comfortable with. Yeah. But I very much feel like I was led by what people would want to see. And it's exciting, yeah. Isn't it?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it's definitely exciting. Well, how did you feel when you like posted your very first ever like explicit content?

SPEAKER_01

Um was going through your mind. I was excited, but I think there's also a nervous part of me that like, oh, what happens if they like, you know, don't like it, or you know, how could they not like it? I don't know, you just I I don't think sometimes I don't know what men like, but I've actually discovered that it is most things.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I mean, there's guys out there that like the craziest of things. So there's someone that but you are beautiful and then your content is unreal, so I mean, how could they not like what you post? Um, so you were nervous but excited. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then um, how quickly was it before you started like doing the collabs with other people?

SPEAKER_01

Um, so I think I worked with a few girls maybe just under a year after I started. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I I Do remember who your first ever like experience was with? Yes, I do. Do you tell me about it? It so it was a lovely lady called Holly. It was both our first collabs. Oh, that's nice. So we were both very, very nervous. Oh. But we got on really, really well and we made three videos together. Yeah. Well done. So yeah, um, they did pretty well. Do you still have those videos? Yeah. You still like people still ask for them? Um, I don't know if anyone's asked for them recently, but they are they are available.

SPEAKER_02

Because your page is uh is it still an OPPV page? Yeah, so they could just scroll through and find all of your videos they can do. Yeah. So they could go right back to the beginning.

SPEAKER_01

They could do. I have had a few people who have seen my photos from like three and a half years ago. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I'm if if someone says to me, or I don't know, I see a like pop up on my page and it's a photo from three years ago, I'm like, no, why are you looking at me back then?

SPEAKER_01

I know back when I didn't have like any proper lighting and it was just me. Exactly.

SPEAKER_02

And the TikTok filters, you know, I used to use hazel eyes all the time. Yeah, if I remember that one, it would make me like a little tanned. It didn't change like the shape of my face or anything, but smooth me out like nobody's business. Yeah, I was like the smoothest gal going like silky smooth. The thing is that you can't then that can't then translate over to your content, your explicit content, because you can't film that on TikTok.

SPEAKER_01

No, yeah, exactly. Yeah, so I've always tried to stay. I think I did go through a stage when I first started of using TikTok filters, but I feel like I quickly got out of that. I was the same, especially when I started doing videos. I'm like, I'm gonna look like a different person.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, and you want to be real, yeah, yeah. So would you say your content is very like a a good example of like your real sexual desires and experiences?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I'd say I'd say mostly, yeah. There are a few videos that I've done that maybe I wouldn't have done in real life, but I sort of wanted to explore like a few definitely customs and like more fetishy.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, tell me, what's been like uh most like crazy custom requests you've had?

SPEAKER_01

Oh something you'd be like, I wouldn't generally do this, but generally I'd say it's not really crazy because I don't know if I'm how much detail I'm allowed to go into here. But me being very dominant has been quite an unusual one because that's not something I've ever done in my life or ever experienced. Okay, so you're quite submissive then in real life. Absolutely, yeah. So to get like a strap-on on and like this like black PVC thing and like tell someone what to do is I think it's quite a good experience, actually. I'm glad that someone's asked me to do that because I never would have thought to do that in real life. And have you enjoyed it? I have, yeah, I didn't think I would, but I can get quite into it actually.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah. I love that. This is the thing, this is what I was saying to someone earlier like the idea of the the creativity behind like doing one thing and then completely doing the opposite. I I love that. It's just like the spice of life.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_02

So you said earlier that you then progressed on to doing boy girl collabs. Yes. Is that something that came because of doing content, or were you interested in exploring and being maybe polyamorous or something like that prior to?

SPEAKER_01

Um, I think before I started all of this, there was always a part of me, and like I've had a few discussions with my husband and things about you know the possibility of maybe being a bit more open in the future, but there was no set plan to that. It was more just if we felt like it, then we would talk to each other and go from there. Yeah, communication, yeah, definitely for sure. So when I first started OnlyFans, I didn't think I'd be working with other men. That didn't sort of really cross my mind, but then a lot of my friends did, and obviously a lot of people requested it, like so many people wanted to see it because I left it um over two years of just doing like nothing involving any men. Yeah. So do you mind me asking, how does your husband feel about how does so it was one of those discussions where we sort of looked at each other and we were like, hmm, I'm not too sure about this. Yeah, I can imagine. But I think after a lot of discussion and obviously talking, I've got quite a few friends in the swinging industry. Yeah. Talking to them, getting him more involved in content as well. Yeah. I think has been really good for him because he sort of understands the industry a bit more. But does he find it like sexy? I don't know about sexy. I mean, he doesn't he likes the idea that I'm like having a good time, but he doesn't want to like see and know every single like detail.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, I see, okay. So he's like super accepting and supporting.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, definitely. But you wouldn't class him as like a cuckold. No, no, he's not into the I mean a lot of people have suggested that he is, but he's not into it. If he was, he'd be doing a lot of cuck content because I would like a cuck actually. Would you? Yeah. I think I'd love to do a cuck video, like a really proper one where someone just sat there. Right, guys. This is a recruitment. This is a recruitment for a cuck.

SPEAKER_02

So your inbox is gonna be flooded. Okay, so going on to um some sillier questions, because I feel that was all quite heavy, really. It was. Um, tell me, what would you say is your like secret weapon to capturing someone's attention? Like online. What is it about your weapon? Yeah. Um something special and different about you.

SPEAKER_01

I'd say probably the fact I look fairly sweet and innocent, but then I've got quite a few tattoos underneath, so that sometimes captures people's attention. How many tattoos have you got? I've got ten. Ten? Yeah. Have you? What's your favourite? That's a tough one. I think I've got a deer on my leg or two deers that I really like. Has it got like a special meaning? That one, no, I just got it because it was pretty. That's cute.

SPEAKER_02

Why not? This is the thing, once people say, like, oh yeah, but what do your tattoos mean?

SPEAKER_01

I know, it's like some of them have meaning, some of them I just got because I was like, that looks really cute and I like it.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, why are you wearing that cute dress? Like it just looks nice. It doesn't have to have meaning behind it. No, do your fans love your tattoos?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Do they?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I get like a little bit of hate for them. Do you? Yeah. So some people really don't like them. Like, if I'm stood next to a girl with no tattoos, people in the comments like, oh, not the damaged one, or she's like ruined her skin and things like that.

SPEAKER_02

I'm like, okay, for heaven's sake, don't realize we had to be like pure as fucking I know. Honestly, that's ridiculous. This is what it does annoy me when like people come online like trolls, come online and they start throwing out insults purely based on their own idea of what you should be. Like, don't project onto me what I should be.

SPEAKER_01

I know exactly. Like everyone's different, and everyone, I don't mind if people like are not into tattoos, that's totally fine.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, you're not saying to them you have to be. Yeah, like it's just stare at my tattoos. Look at them, jerk off to them. Crick. That'd be a great dumb video for someone.

SPEAKER_01

You've given me a great idea that I love that.

SPEAKER_02

Because people say to me, I don't have any visible tattoos, but I have one tiny little one on my hip that I got when I was 18. And people say, like, oh, I love the fact that you've not got tattoos. And I'm like, but I do, yeah. I do have one, so don't put that on me. I think maybe they see it as like a pure maybe. Oh hell, I don't say. But I mean, no. No, but babe, we're not pure anymore. We're not. No, we're we're long, we're filthy.

SPEAKER_01

We're we're far, we're too far gone. Too far gone.

SPEAKER_02

Okay. Do you remember your very first subscriber? And how did it feel to see them come in? Like, did you stalk their profile? Did you try like look through anything or remember specifics?

SPEAKER_01

I don't know if I remember my first one. I remember when I did a TikTok video, and for the first time, I think I got like five in, all fairly close to each other. And I was like, oh wow, like this is actually like I'd only had it set up like a day. And I was like, Oh, I've already got people coming in. This is like amazing. But yeah, I was quite nosy and having a little look around and wondering if they knew of them were like gonna message me or like got like a profile picture, you're like, Oh, hello.

SPEAKER_02

Where are you from? Do you have anybody come into your page that knows you in real life? Yes, do you? Yes, I know. Same. Okay. Has anybody ever been inappropriate?

SPEAKER_01

Um, if you'd count buying about four dildos off my Amazon wish list as inappropriate, then I'd say then I'd say yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And you know this person.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I used to.

SPEAKER_02

Do they know that you know that yeah same name and profile picture? Oh, so they're just like making it blatantly obvious.

SPEAKER_01

I don't think they care.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, no, obviously not. Is this person like close to home? Like is it close to family or friends?

SPEAKER_01

No, this person, my parents have a business and they used to work for them, and so did I at the same time. So we've worked together. Oh wow, and yeah, what a naughty boy.

unknown

Very, very naughty man.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. If someone came in and they and you knew that like they were married and they had a family and things like that, would you ever reach out and tell the the wife or anything?

SPEAKER_01

No, I don't think that's my place.

SPEAKER_02

No, no, I I'm the same because I have I've had people subscribe to me that I know, you know, and I know they're married or whatever, and people have said, Oh, why didn't you reach out and say, like, your husband's I'm like, that's absolutely not for me.

SPEAKER_01

That's like that's none of my business. If not force anyone to come in like they chose to, that's not my problem.

SPEAKER_02

Like if they came and found me or you know, saw my content and decided maybe they're enjoying it together.

SPEAKER_01

Well, that's the thing, you don't know, do you? Because a lot of people these days do have more open relationships and can enjoy porn and stuff together. Do you have many couples on your page? I have a few. I say it's mainly men, but I do have a few couples and a few women as well.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I love it when the couples come in because I'm like, I do, I love it.

SPEAKER_01

I'm like, oh, what's your dynamic?

SPEAKER_02

This is so wholesome. Okay. Um tell me a moment when you're filming content when you had like an out-of-body experience and thought, I can't believe that this is what I'm doing right now. Has there been anything like crazy?

SPEAKER_01

There's been quite a few experiences like that. I'd say typically when I'm working with more than one person, so it's like a bit of either I've not worked with more than one man at the same time. Oh, is that on the cards? A lot of people are asking, are they like, Are you gonna do two guys at once? I'm like, Maybe. Oh but no, just quite often during some sort of scenes, if there's like a pause to like change the camera or something, I'm just there like, what is going on? Like, I can't believe this isn't my job. Like, I love my job. I was not happy in like my previous jobs, and I'm like, my god, I get paid for this now.

SPEAKER_02

This is crazy. How like what's the biggest group collab you've ever done? Like a naughty video.

SPEAKER_01

How many people probably around eight, nine. Oh, that is a lot. Yeah. So that would be girls, yeah. All girls. I have done one scene where there were six of us, and it was five guys. No, not five, sorry, five girls and one guy. Oh wow, lucky man. He was very lucky. I don't think he knew where to look. He was like, Oh, I'm just gonna go here, then here, then here. I bet he was like, This is my life. He was having the best time.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, so the publisher, like, guys, you're not gonna believe what I did today. That's funny. Okay, tell me if you've got like a shoot coming up like that, you know, you've got lots of people, or it's like quite a big scene for you. How would you get yourself in the mood?

SPEAKER_01

It's quite a difficult one, isn't it? Um I'd say often just kind of thinking about it. I know that sounds really lame, but like picturing it in your head and wondering how it's gonna go and who the people are, because some people I might have worked with before, and I'm like, oh, I know I really get on with them, like I can focus more on them or like week I can start. And yeah. Oh no, I don't think I've ever been asked that before. No. No, interestingly.

SPEAKER_02

So you're not like in the bathroom quite clear getting yourself going. I'm joking.

SPEAKER_01

I've done that before. I've done a few scenes where guys are very, very like well endowed.

SPEAKER_02

Oh really?

SPEAKER_01

So I still have sometimes that I got a wand and just yeah, yeah. Yeah, you still have to prepare myself up.

SPEAKER_02

You need like um a warm-up dildo. Don't you? In case you do. I I say that I've only ever slept with my husband, not only ever, but you know, we've been together 16 years. I've only ever filmed with him, and I've only been with him since we got together. So, you know, we're I'm used to it, but I can imagine if I were to sleep with lots of other guys, I would definitely need some kind of warming up.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Um, okay. Let's have a look at this. Tell me what would be what kind of message would you receive from a fan that would be like make you that would make you a day?

SPEAKER_01

Uh just that they really appreciate and like my content because they my page I don't like make people buy videos, they sort of get it all. So getting a message of appreciation is really nice that they because they do get a lot. They do get a lot. They get an awful lot, and I feel like some people still want more after that, and I don't know how they could.

SPEAKER_02

I know. But could you like all your full-length videos are on your wall to watch? Yeah. Come on, guys. I know, but it's all there.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, just messages like thank you so much for what you do, and you know, thank you for responding to our messages and just little things like that, really.

SPEAKER_02

It doesn't take a lot, does it, to just be appreciative. I love messages like that as well. Yeah, it just makes you feel like you're sort of doing a good job and like you're making people happy, which is nice. Yeah, definitely. I think this industry or porn in general has a bit of a negative connotation that it's like seedy and it should be, you know, hidden, but actually you're providing an escapism, you know, form of escapism for people.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I mean the amount of messages I've had that like, oh, I've had a really tough day, but then you know, I chatted to you a bit or I watched one of your videos and it made it better. I'm like, thank you. I'm glad I could help. Like, you know. You're doing the work of the people.

unknown

I love that. Doing guys work.

SPEAKER_02

Tell me, like, give me a description of your give me a description of your ideal subscriber, like the ideal fan that would come in and then tell me what they really are. Or are they all just like so lovely and perfect?

SPEAKER_01

Um, my ideal subscriber would come in and like some of my posts, because that's always good because not many people like things. Yeah. I find it's really hard to like get people to like things. Um so yeah, like lots of things, maybe send me like a little message and I'll be like, oh hi, how are you? Occasional tips are always appreciative. I don't again, I don't ask for them, but um, if you're gonna chat to me a lot and want to take up a lot of my time, then it's always just a little like just a little something.

SPEAKER_02

This is the thing I have. I think some guys get confused as to like how dare you monetize this. And it's like, look, if it wasn't monetized, I wouldn't be here doing it, have to be going elsewhere and making a living.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

So you have to see that there's that, you know, I'm providing a entertainment and that has to be you pay for Netflix.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

You know.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, you pay to go see like people sing in concerts, you pay to go to the cinema. So it's it's no different really.

SPEAKER_02

And and would you say that those guys are the people that come in? Do you have really good experiences?

SPEAKER_01

I do. Most of my subscribers are absolutely like lovely people. Some of them don't want to interact, they just want to watch, and that's that's totally fine. Like that's up to them. But yeah, I had I've not really had any bad experiences.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. I hear that a lot. I've done quite a lot of podcasting now and spoken to so many different people. And honestly, I don't think I've ever had anyone give me a story or tell me something that's been like terrible. No, I just think most people are really respectful. I have that experience.

SPEAKER_01

No, it's it's it's lovely, isn't it? Because I think sometimes people who subscribe to OnlyFans get like a bad rep. They do, yeah. And there is no need for it because they're all lovely. Like it's all the people who don't subscribe who give you all the hate and that are horrible.

SPEAKER_02

In the Instagram DMs.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That is like the wild, wild west.

SPEAKER_01

I know I sometimes scroll through and I'm like, oh god.

SPEAKER_02

Are you on Reddit? Yeah. Do you think Reddit or Instagram DMs are the wor are worse? It's got to be Reddit.

SPEAKER_01

Do you think? Because I think they can get away with saying more the Yeah, true. They can be proper filthy.

SPEAKER_02

Reddit is filthy and also the mods.

SPEAKER_01

They are all power mad. They are. They just hate women, I think. Yeah, I think not all.

SPEAKER_02

Like not all, not all mods, like the whole not all men thing. Not all mods, but some, they just take a disliking to you and then that's it.

SPEAKER_01

Then they're just very power hungry. And then like, for example, if you post a picture and they're like delete it or remove you, like, could I just ask what I did wrong so I don't do it again in the future? And they're like blocked, and you're like, blocked literally.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

SPEAKER_02

And then they can't take your like entire profile down. If you go easy.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, so Reddit is not the place.

unknown

Reddit's not the place.

SPEAKER_02

Reddit's not the place. To be fair though, I find like on the contrary, the guys that come through to my page from Reddit are always so lovely and so invested in my content.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I don't know, like just they're there for like the right reasons. Where if you've come from Instagram and you've just seen like a hot girl online, you think, oh, she'll show me a tit. And then they can can be a little disrespectful, maybe.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I agree with that.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, possibly. Um, okay, I think we've covered everything. Okay, amazing. Um, so if you just tell everybody who you are, where they can find your content, like tell them your links and everything, and that would be perfect.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. So my name is Katie Cooper. Um, you can find my Instagram at KatieCooper4x, my x slash Twitter. I know some people are still calling it Twitter. I don't call it Twitter. I don't really know. That is KatieCooper4XO, and my only fans is Katie Cooper4. So yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And thank you so much for coming up.

SPEAKER_01

You're very welcome.

SPEAKER_02

I'm really grateful. Um, I'm Olivia Fleur. You can find me oliviafleurofficial.com. Um, this is the Hot Girls Club Podcast, and the Hot Girls Club Podcast is now hosted on OFTV. Um, so if you head there, you can find the link in my Instagram bio. If you head there, you'll find all of my previous episodes. Um yeah, see you guys next time.