Posture & Purpose With Dr. Michelle Carr Frank

Core First: A Nurse Practitioner’s Path From ER To Aesthetics

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What if prevention, confidence, and a touch of aesthetics could change the way you move through life? We sit down with a nurse practitioner who started in the ER, built a med spa, and now blends clinical rigor with human-centered wellness. The story spans early calling to nursing, the realities of NP training and autonomy, and the practical ways strength work, GLP-1s, and thoughtful collaboration help patients reclaim everyday wins—from walking a store without breathlessness to enjoying trips without constant stops.

We get clear about what nurse practitioners actually do: years of education, supervised clinical hours, and responsibility that expands access to care. Then we connect the dots between disciplines—primary care, physical therapy, chiropractic, aesthetics—showing how a team can rally around prevention. Cardio matters, but resistance and core training emerge as the quiet heroes for spine health, balance, and longevity. In a place where food and celebration are part of identity, moderation beats deprivation, and small, consistent changes carry the day.

The conversation also dives into GLP-1 therapies with a measured, research-first approach: slow titration, lifestyle support, and watchful attention to both metabolic and aesthetic outcomes. Reduced cravings become a surprising ally in cutting alcohol and improving nutrition. Looking ahead, AI and machine learning promise sharper, more individualized decisions—when paired with clinical judgment and verification. The sticking point remains policy: insurance systems that resist prevention create costs and burnout downstream, and we talk candidly about what needs to change.

If you want practical steps, real patient stories, and a fresh lens on wellness that respects both science and the human heart, this conversation is for you. Subscribe, share it with a friend who’s building healthier habits, and leave a review with the one change you’re ready to commit to this week.

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How do you get your patients to take control or how do you help them along on that health journey when there's really a hurdle?

SPEAKER_04:

So this is uh a great question. Uh one of the things and I I don't want my patients to think any less of me, but um, when we opened the med spa, we had a whole conversation about it. And aesthetics, you know, ER was my background. So jumping from Totally different. ER to aesthetics, yes, is a completely different thing. Also, for anybody wanting to open a business, get a business coach because that was uh that was hard going from a clinician to a business owner.

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Oh, how did you change that mindset?

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It's welcome to Posture and Purpose, where both healing and community come together. Make sure to subscribe on Apple, Spotify, and YouTube. Let's get into this episode with Dr. Michelle Carr Frank.

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Hello and welcome to this episode of Posture and Purpose. Today my guest is Christy Lenahan, Doctor of Nurse Practitioner.

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Nursing practice. Nursing practice. And a nurse practitioner.

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And a nurse practitioner. This lady wears many hats, and that's why I have her on today. I'd like to learn about all the different things that she does in not only the healthcare community, but in our Lafayette community as a whole. So welcome. Thank you for being here. She's also the owner of Serenity Aesthetics.

SPEAKER_04:

So we have a lot to talk about. Yeah, you said you had a lot of questions.

SPEAKER_02:

I do, I do. I have a few, a few questions. Okay. I always like to know what started you on this journey to being a nurse practitioner.

SPEAKER_04:

Um, well, I guess the first part was being a nurse. Uh my mom said, and I do remember this in kindergarten, they asked, What did you want to be when you grew up? And my boys who are 23 and one's about to be 21 right now, they're like, I don't know how you knew what you wanted to be in kindergarten. I was like, Well, I was a girl. Kind of a thing, you know, nursing and teaching. Yes. Did I want to be a nurse or a teacher? And then my mom went back to school. I think I was in fourth grade and she went to nursing school.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, that's wonderful.

SPEAKER_04:

And so I remember my my grandparents lived in Mississippi, so we would study um on the way, and I'd read the book or listen to the lectures, you know, and so that's really cool.

SPEAKER_02:

So you learned it in fourth grade, basically. Uh yeah, well, maybe.

SPEAKER_04:

Um, some of it. I could not pronounce half the words, but back to that. Um, so then I started working at UMC when it was UMC before Austin took over. Uh, loved working there, loved being a nurse, was in the ER, and then I was like, uh thought, okay, well, you know, five years of good experience, maybe ten, I'll go back to NP school. That a friend of mine wanted to go to NP school, and he did everything because I was like not interested. I was making good money, you know, I was happy, I was making money, I was good. Um, he did everything for me because he really wanted to go. And he's a nurse practitioner now, but I got in and he didn't.

SPEAKER_02:

So I'm kidding.

SPEAKER_04:

Uh-huh. Uh-huh. I think he even got my transcripts for me. That's how like nonchalant I was about it. So wow. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh gosh, poor God.

SPEAKER_04:

I know, I felt bad. Oh gosh. But he's a nurse, he's fine. He's doing great.

SPEAKER_02:

He's doing great. Yeah, yeah. Good, good. And so, do you think it was the influence of your mother that really made you want to be a nurse or guide you in healthcare?

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, yeah. I I don't know if that if this is still a thing, but candy stripers, do you remember that?

SPEAKER_02:

I do.

SPEAKER_04:

So UMC had a program when I was in high school, and it was a candy striper program. Um, I couldn't, I will say this. I had gotten a car accident, and I was supposed to do community service as part of my like not pay the ticket, get it off your insurance because it was your first one. Um, and that was one of my community service things, and I was in the uh well baby nursery and I got to rock the baby. And so, of course, I loved it.

SPEAKER_02:

That wasn't much of a punishment, yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

It wasn't at all. So, but I continued with that, and I even had the little candy striper apron.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh my gosh, I remember those well. I do, I do. And being that you were guided so early, um, was there a defining moment that you said, okay, this is I'm on the right path? Like you said, you were very nonchalant about applying uh for that for NP school, yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

I was so nonchalant. Um a defining moment. I think I had um, and and to this day, if you ever work with a a resident, um, they're so and and a brand a nursing student or a brand new, you know, fresh out-of-school nurse, they're so positive and they want to change the world. I hate to say that we're jaded after a little bit of time, but we are. Um, but they're so positive and they want to change the world and they like to teach the residents, especially the staff uh the staff docs at UMC too, they were all, you know, that was what they did. They taught. And so when it kind of transitioned from me being able to teach some of the residents some things too, you know, like, oh, okay, I I think I like this. There was a teaching aspect, an autonomy aspect, and that was uh that's kind of when I guess no specific defining moment, but I remember that transition, you know.

SPEAKER_02:

Exactly. And how does your background as a nurse shape the way you practice being a nurse practitioner today? Of course, you have the experience behind you, but how would it overall shape what you have become in your in your practice?

SPEAKER_04:

It's it's kind of interesting. Um, my I've always been in the ER. I did a med surge student for like six weeks. God bless all the med surge nurses. God bless you all, yes. Um I will never do that again. Um, but I did so ER was my my background and that mentality kind of sticks with you, and it's like, okay, well, as long as nobody dies, we got this, you know. And so, you know, and I can if a hundred people walk in, I don't uh, you know, that would be great. But um, but I also have to kind of temper that with okay, from a med spa experience, right? Now, if I'm doing some other things, that's different, but I have to temper it with if you're coming to my med spa, I need you to be kind of chill and relaxed and enjoy this the time and the space. So I don't want you to feel rushed.

SPEAKER_02:

Right, different environment.

SPEAKER_04:

Different environment, yeah.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

And for those who are listening that do not fully understand, what is the difference between being a nurse and being a nurse practitioner? I know to you, you're like, isn't it obvious?

SPEAKER_04:

No, I get that question a lot.

SPEAKER_02:

I I But you might you might want to explain that.

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Yeah, yeah. Um, so there's also there's different kinds of nurses, right? There's LPNs, there's RNs, there's RNs with an associate's degree and a bachelor's degree. So um you have to have your bachelor's degree, uh, RN with a bachelor's degree to go to nurse practitioner school. Um and in some states you have to have a a doctorate to have your NP. I have mine, not because Louisiana requires it right now, but because I teach and UL kind of requires it. Um but that's another story. You checked that box. I checked that box, yes. Um, but you have to have so then you go back to school for two to three more years, depending on you know um how long you want to do do it, you know, how long it takes to you, part-time, full-time, um, how many hours you want to take each semester. And you have your master's. Um, so you have to have a master's at at a minimum to be a nurse practitioner in this state. In some other states, it's a a doctor, like I said. Um the the difference is a nurse practitioner can practice somewhat independently in some states completely independently. There's uh what they call a CPA or collaborative practice agreement um in the state of Louisiana. So the the doc is supposed to be available if you have any questions or you know, okay um might have a more complicated patient. And I I hate to say this, but a lot of times I'll call somebody else, not him, you know, because he we have pretty much the same pathway as far as aesthetics is concerned. Okay, and so aesthetics and wellness are pathways very similar. So if it's anything of, you know, I'll call somebody who's maybe done it for a longer period of time.

SPEAKER_02:

Sure. Yeah, so and that person isn't just there to sign a piece of paper, the collaborative doctor.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, they're not supposed to be. Um But you know it depends, it depends on the the personality of the person, too. You know, they have some great collaborative physicians who are truly collaborative, and we have some who kind of by the sidelines.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, exactly. And what do you find has been one of the biggest misconceptions about nurse practitioners um out there?

SPEAKER_04:

Oh man. Our yeah, uh I think from a political standpoint, I've been to the Capitol several times because one of the things that they've tried to do in the past um was let us practice to our our scope, uh, the highest extent of our scope. Um and so like I said, some collaborative physicians are great, some are just they signed they did, they signed the piece of paper, you know. So um, but what we hear is that okay, well, you you went to school online, uh that that how are you gonna take care of a patient? And I don't think they understand the clinical aspect of it. So, yes, some of the didactic work is online, um, a lot of times synchronous, some of it's asynchronous, um, but the the there's patient care involved. And so you're with your pay, you know, as a nurse practitioner student, the new minimum is 750 hours. Uh that just went through probably last year. It's gone from 750 to 500. We always had a little bit above at UL to back to 750 again, or 720, you can't remember. Um, so 750 hours of direct patient care, you know. So you're you're in there with your preceptor, whether that be a nurse practitioner, a physician, um, or you know, and you're you're with the patient, right? Um, our psych and peas actually do some therapy hours with LCSWs too. So, you know, it just kind of depends on which route you're going. Sure. But we have hands, I mean we're with the patients doing, you know, you know, um, increased level of care.

SPEAKER_02:

That makes all the difference in the world.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah. So it's not just you got a piece of paper because you passed a test online, you know. Oh, right.

SPEAKER_02:

Wish more people would understand that. But um, here's hoping. Yeah. How does your how does your scope of practice complement different uh specialties, medical doctors, chiropractors, other providers?

SPEAKER_04:

Sure, I had this conversation. Um, I think chiropractors for sure, but also p uh physical therapists. Yes. So they you I think that would be a great, at least symbiotic relationship, you know, but it doesn't really happen. There would be a couple of, I think there's one chiropractor in town who has uh a couple of nurse practitioners that he works with. Um, but it can be so helpful. Um, I have some physicians that I know they're on their, you know, they're ready to retire or they want to travel. I have one student who is probably gonna take a job with a physician in town who is, you know, he's got family, he's got things he wants to be able to do. He wants his clinic to be able to run, though. He's still you still have to bring in income, right? Sure. It's not ready to retire, but he wants to to do other things. And so the nurse practitioner can be comfortably run the clinic without him being there per se after, you know, getting trained, obviously, and all that. So um, and so that's one of the ways a nurse practitioner could work. But I would say this from a chiropractic standpoint, physical therapy. Um, I think nurses in general look at a more holistic vision of um patients. And so wellness, I think that I know it sounds like a cliche or a buzzword, but I've found it not just the nurses or the nurse practitioners or chiropractors, my patients. The patients. The patients. They're like, okay, what can I do to not get to the point where I need to go to a cardiologist? What can I do to get to the point where I'm not going to suffer from arthritis, you know, osteoarthritis when I'm, you know, in my 60s, and so I can't go do things that I would enjoy while I'm retired.

SPEAKER_02:

Preventative wellness. Yes, yes, it's this is something chiropractors have been preaching since we've been practicing. And all of a sudden now it's it's the buzzword, right? It's the buzzword, wellness. But um we've been providing that for years, and we've just always not got you know our due respect, if you will, but that's changed because of the patients.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, yeah, they they want it, they and they need it.

SPEAKER_02:

Yes. And so I've seen quite a bit of change in my time of practicing with that. So it's so good to be able to collaborate with someone like you and nurses and other providers because the door's open now.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, more so. Yeah, absolutely. And we and to not to the physicians, right? There are some old school ones who are sure, but they're they're also opening up that door too. They're looking at the patient from a more holistic vision. I just don't, I don't want my husband to get mad at me because uh, you know, but he'll he'll tell you, like he'll tell you what he is. He's an ER physician at heart, and that's what he's gonna be. So he should have come on the podcast.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, yeah, you can have, yeah. But next guest, yeah. But uh speaking about healthy lifestyle and healthy habits, what is one thing, what is one change that you wish your patients would make? If you could give one piece of advice, what what would it be?

SPEAKER_04:

One change I wish my patients would make.

SPEAKER_02:

Better, you know, we know to drink water, we know to exercise, but something that's often overlooked, possibly.

SPEAKER_04:

I know exercise, and we say uh one of the things that I tell 30 minutes of exercise, elevated heart rate, at least three times, three to five times, five times a week, really, 150 minutes, right, of exercise every week. We all know that, that's the thing. But I think um the type of exercise. So cardio is great, right? It's healthy for your heart, all those things. But I I think weight resistance and um ri or resistance training, core training, especially. I think if you get your core in shape, the rest of your body will follow. Um, and I I don't know that patients always listen to that, you know. Um, but it's so good for your back. Yeah, it's just there's so many things.

SPEAKER_02:

It's not necessarily easy. You have to make it a lot of people. No, it's not easy. No, yeah. And so if it's not easy, humans tend to put it off, right? Yeah, but we'll keep preaching. Yeah, you can keep preaching. I certainly will. So and so how, whenever you're in that situation, how do you get your patients to take control or how do you help them along on that health journey when there's really a hurdle?

SPEAKER_04:

So this is uh a great question. Uh, one of the things and I don't want my patients to think they need less of me, but um, when we opened the med spa, we had a whole conversation about it. And aesthetics, you know, ER was my background. So jumping from Totally different ER to aesthetics, yes, is a completely different thing. Also, for anybody wanting to open a business, get a business coach because that was uh that was hard going from a clinician to a business owner. Oh, how did you change that mindset? It's still not really that much change, but you know, I yeah, I have it's embedded, but yeah, I have good support people around me who who are like, okay, no, you can't do that. You maybe you can do that, you know. Um, but uh we started truly doing like aesthetics, right? Botox, um, filler. We had some we had massage, we always had massage. I thought that was important to always have massage. Um, and then we had facials and all the, you know, the pretty things, right? Right, right. Um the feel-good things, the feel-good things, yeah. So, and I do, I want my patients to feel good about themselves because I think it make if you mentally and emotionally feel good about yourself, spiritually, you feel you physically you're better. 100%. Yeah, um, but then the GLP ones came on the market. Yeah, uh-huh. And I um we were a little resistant at first to do the compounding stuff, did a lot of research, lots and lots and lots of research. And we started about maybe two and a half years ago doing GLP ones, compounded GLP ones. Um and seeing the difference, you know, and these are patients who have struggled all their lives and they've tried, you know, inflammatory markers, there's all kinds of things that contribute to obesity, other than the patient, you know, the patient just not having a healthy diet or healthy lifestyle. Lifestyle, yeah. Some who just were just resistant, right? They exercised, they did all kinds of things. Started them on a GLP one. I have patients and carefully, slowly titrated, because you don't want to lose a whole bunch of weight real fast, because it's a whole nother thing. Then I'll be filling you up with filler, you know. So another episode. Yeah. Um but seeing and hearing my patients say, I can go to Hobby Lobby and walk around and not get short of breath, you know. And they were when they were younger, they used to decorate all the time. Now they help their kids, you know, their their grown kids decorate, show them. I can take a trip and I don't have to stop every you know, hour and a half because I have to use the bathroom, you know, I can or hour because I have to use the bathroom. Yeah. Um that that was like, oh my, oh my god, I can do so much, so much more good. You know, it's life-changing good, you know. So, and then of course we can talk about another podcast where we go down the peptide rabbit hole because oh gosh, peptides, yes, that has its own, yeah. Yeah, that's uh that's a beast. Whole nother, a whole nother um yeah uh uh episode.

SPEAKER_02:

Uh-huh. Okay, so being that you were in healthcare in the ER and now in aesthetics, what did you what do you wish that each patient that walked into your clinic understood?

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, you know, I think we've gotten, and it's not just the patients, it's the providers too. And I'm a I'm an uh, you know, I teach at UL, right?

SPEAKER_02:

Yes, I want to talk about that too.

SPEAKER_04:

And so one of the things I I do teach, it's almost algorithmic medicine, but I also preface that with not everybody's gonna respond the same way. No, so yeah, the large majority of the population will be responsive to this medication in this way, but not everybody will.

SPEAKER_02:

Not a cookbook.

SPEAKER_04:

I know, so you have a bunch of different options, yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

So sure. So they should know that walking in whether it's um feel-good stuff or really um transitional change, you have to know that it could be hard, it could be difficult.

SPEAKER_04:

And what I did for you know, your friend might not be the same thing that I do for you because exactly your body is different, you know.

SPEAKER_02:

So right. So okay, so that's a good take-home. And being that you're in healthcare, how do you protect yourself? How do you stay healthy and happy and on the go?

SPEAKER_04:

I probably should focus a little uh well, I will tell you this. I the past year has been a lot of shedding some responsibilities because I do have um I have my two older kids who are in college, and I have my daughter who's eight. And so, um, and then my niece who who's with us a lot, and she just turned 10. And so I'm gonna yes, yes, we've been very, very busy um with family stuff, and so I had to learn to say no and let things. Go to make time for what really matters, you know. And so my children, my husband, that that that all really matters to me. Not that my my patients don't matter, they absolutely do, but at some point you can overextend yourself.

SPEAKER_02:

And so um at the end of the day, you have to take care of yourself so you can take care of others as well. Exactly. And with that being said, what do you find brings you the most fulfillment in life? I know you know a lot of people say family, but is there something that really makes you feel fulfilled?

SPEAKER_04:

Oh man, that's hard. Yes, yeah. So seeing my family, yeah, obviously my kids know I love them. I want to go see them succeed. I have plans with my boys on you know building things and all those fun things. But um seeing my students be successful. And you know, if as a nurse practitioner, I'm a nurse practitioner as an instructor, I can make a a huge difference because I I'm instructing very good future nurse practitioners, you know.

SPEAKER_02:

Sharing that information and giving them an education.

SPEAKER_04:

Tell us a little bit about what you do at UL. Uh so I am right now I'm the NP clinical coordinator, a child graduate coordinator for a while, and it just wasn't for me one of those shedding, you know, learning what what you're good at and what to say no to. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Pick and choose. And so um I am the NP clinical coordinator now, and I I I appreciate that position so much more. I love to teach. Um, I love learning different things. We're doing a podcast right now. I kind of started doing a podcast for my students. It's asynchronous. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

I love that. Tell us about it. I just think that is such a great idea.

SPEAKER_04:

It's called it's called clinical case files. So I put it on Spotify. I don't make my students do the Spotify thing, you know, because it's I don't want to mix commercial, but I do have a version of it for them that they can listen to and basically take a specific disease process and have like a I've been listening to a lot too much true crime, probably. Um yeah, exactly. Who doesn't love true crime? And so we do like a true crime podcast with a disease process and kind of go through the whole thing.

SPEAKER_02:

I just love that idea. I would have learned so much through something like that.

SPEAKER_04:

You know, and yeah, you and I would. My husband is like, no, they just need to read the book. I'm like, yes, that's why you don't teach.

SPEAKER_02:

Everybody learns differently. Um and why, you know, or how do you stay connected to your why, your students, that those things that fulfill you on a hard day, on a bad day, whenever there's a challenging patient. Let's put it that way.

SPEAKER_04:

How do I stay connected? Well, my students have all, you know, they're they're really good about reaching back out. I still have students from when I first started teaching in undergrad, because I started in undergrad. Um, some of them, I told them in undergrad, they're now in grad school, you know, so it's nice to see that little go full circle. Um, but they they reach out, they ask me questions, uh, but they also tell, you know, I'll I'll hear them say, um, you know, you help me so much, you know, and it's just knowing even though I'm having a bad day, which they they happen. They're not that, they're not that many. Um, because I always say if you wake up topside, it's probably a pretty good day. Exactly. Be thankful for that. Yeah, yeah. But no, you know, just hearing from the students and making sure, and I I always I encourage feedback. I want to know, you know, if you know, if if it was helpful, was it helpful? I was asked to, of course, how are boards? Do we prepare you? You know, and they're like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

So they give you some good feedback.

SPEAKER_04:

Exactly, exactly. But having that feedback, and I have a couple emails and stuff that students send, you know, text messages here and there, thank you, you know, for oh, that's wonderful. Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_02:

That's good to know. Um, and being that you're teaching students in Louisiana, in Lafayette, in Cajun Country, all this good food and lots of great drinks and parties. Uh-huh. How does that affect our community? How do you, how have you seen it affect our community?

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Um the food is an issue. Um, I will I will say that. And I love the, you know, I I'm the world's worst. I love chocolate. That's my uh guilty pleasure. If I could live on chocolate, you would. I would, absolutely. Um, so that and a peanut butter and jelly shape from Planet Nutrition. Oh, shout out. Yeah, nutrition. I don't know. Yeah, I I don't know why. That's one of my like go-tos on these for that with B12 and ginseng. But um, sorry. I love it. Um but yeah, the the food, it's learning to teach the patient, like you don't have to not eat the food, but you have to learn how to eat it in moderation. Um, and that's hard to do here. It's hard, it's hard because everything revolves in everything revolves around the kitchen and family affairs or even um holiday parties. I always find everybody kind of migrates towards the kitchen, you know, we're always snacking and stuff like that. Um, but yeah, is I don't want to deprive anybody of anything, but you you have to learn moderation. And you know, I guess that's one of the popular things about the GLP ones is you can't you have to do it in moderation because you don't have the for it.

SPEAKER_02:

Exactly. What about alcohol? I know we like to party here in Louisiana. How does that how have you seen it affect our community?

SPEAKER_04:

Um, I think, you know, I I do think the wellness mindset has affected it in a positive way where people aren't drinking as much. Um, Mardi Gras season's coming up, so I know that'll probably be that doesn't count in two weeks. Mardi Gras alcohol and Christmas calories don't count, right? Right. Um, so but I have found that less and less, even the younger generation too, they aren't drinking quite as much as maybe what you and I did in our younger years. Maybe. Maybe you yeah, actually. But honestly, I didn't drink until I was like 26.

SPEAKER_02:

That's good.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, yeah. I never drank anything until I was 26, and and you know, Malibu pineapple because I always want to see pretend like I'm on a beach. That being said. Um, and not every day, but you know, if I'm gonna drink, that's probably where it's gone.

SPEAKER_03:

That's the choice.

SPEAKER_04:

Um, but yeah, I think that I've seen a positive change. But I will say this one of the other benefits of the GLP1s is that they cut cravings. So if you're a drinker, they also help with that. So that's kind of cool too.

SPEAKER_02:

Wow, that is good. Um, hopefully that helps a lot of people out there um that didn't know that. Yeah. So with all these changes and everything, everything you've seen at the university ER, uh at your Serenity Aesthetics clinic. What excites you the most about the future of healthcare? Not even just in Lafayette, but everywhere.

SPEAKER_04:

What have you seen or I um I I know people are probably gonna think I'm crazy, but I like uh AI. I think it helps to individual if you know what you're doing. I don't think you should start out with AI. I think you need to know the basics first, right? Right. Um, but I do think it's gonna help to, or maybe even machine learning, I don't know how kind of a combination of both, but help to look at that patient from an a more individualized perspective, you know, and it can evaluate the labs and things like that. Um that that's what excites me. I think, you know, we've been able to isolate specific parts of the DNA that cause specific disease processes. We can maybe adjust that, modify, you know. There's uh I know that sounds crazy.

SPEAKER_02:

Like no, it's it's very interesting and it's happened so fast. Yes, we thought we knew chat GPT. Oh my gosh, we know so much now. It has just exploded it's in a short period of time. All that information is out there. So um I always wonder what other practitioners think about it all.

SPEAKER_04:

I think it's great. I think if I think you always have to go back and check yourself, right? Um, just like when the early internet, I'm I'm thinking about Google when Google first, or it wasn't it was Yahoo, probably that was bigger than Google at the time.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah. Uh-huh. And and you've got Encyclopedia Britannica on the internet, you know. I was like, oh, that's cool. We don't have to take a book off the shelf. Yeah, yeah. Um, so but you do have to go back and check things and make sure they're accurate. And but it is a use, it's a very useful tool. And I think it helps um in decision making sometimes too, you know, like okay, here's here's what I have, um, here's what I think, you know, but are there any in is there any research out there new going on that we can kind of tap into to see if it'll help our our patients?

SPEAKER_02:

Exactly. It all comes down to to helping uh the patients. Yeah. And on that note, if there was one thing you could change about our current healthcare system, what would you if you had a magic wand?

SPEAKER_04:

Do you really want me to oh man the way um prior authorizations and insurance okay, yeah, so yeah, so you roll your eyes.

SPEAKER_02:

Don't put that on.

SPEAKER_04:

Uh huh. Um, you know, I and I know they have they have a job to do, right? Everybody has a job to do. And at some point we have to talk about we have to make a profit, whatever. Okay, that's it. I got it. I understand. You gotta pay the employees, I get it. I own a business, I understand. But why why can't we cover things that are preventative, you know? And it'll keep your overall cost down in the long run. Exactly. Because your patients won't be seeing. I keep going picking on cardiology. Let me think of somebody else, endocrinology, you know, yeah, yeah. Um because they're healthier, right? You know, and they they prevented it from happening happening. I don't know why that's such a hard concept for the powers that be to get into their head.

SPEAKER_02:

I don't know. That would be a whole another, I think, episode too, because if you keep people sick longer, they need more care. So the powers that be make more money.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, I don't know. It's a vicious cycle. It is, and I just I I would like to, you know, uh follow the money, right? They always say follow-I would like to follow the money one time, but I you know, that's another Yeah, it's a lot.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah There's no way to encapsulate this conversation into what I'm saying. No, no, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_04:

But yeah, the the way the way preventive medicine is not covered, I think would be one of the things that I would or you have to fight for it to be covered, you know. Sure.

SPEAKER_02:

I mean Sure. And what if someone came up to you and said, I'm really considering a career in healthcare? Would you discourage or encourage them?

SPEAKER_04:

I think I would have a deeper conversation about it. Because I've had people tell me that and and they're like, you know, the money's good, it's stable. I'm like, okay, well, that's good, but there are other professions. What else? You know, and and if you're truly doing it because you want to care for people, you want to make them feel better, you want to, you know, make a difference in in someone's life, other than, you know, your your own family, obviously. Um, then yeah, yeah, I would encourage them. But I'd have to have a conversation first. It is it is stressful though. I'd also preface that with, you know, be prepared because you're gonna fight some battles that you didn't think you were gonna fight. That's that's I like the way that you put that.

SPEAKER_02:

It's so true because you want to explain to them all the wonderful things, but there's good and bad days no matter what you do. Oh, yeah. And you have to roll with the punches, and just the more you are prepared for those punches, yes, the better. I can't.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, and you won't get burnt out so easy. I mean, gosh, we we can talk about the turnover. It's not a lack of nurses, right? It's uh no, it's nurses who chose to leave the field.

SPEAKER_02:

So that's true. Well, how can our listeners find you and your great clinic?

SPEAKER_04:

Oh, yeah. Um, I am in Youngstville, we're located in Youngsville, 1809, Shimon Medtery Parkway. Make sure you put in Parkway or it'll bring you to the other side of Ambassador, right across from Ascension High School. Um, the uh we're open Monday, I'm sorry, Tuesday through Saturday, closed on uh um Sunday and Monday, but we are open late on Wednesdays till 6 p.m. And if you are interested, we have a website, www.serenitymed aesthetics, that's a long thing, uh, dot com. And then we also have you can call us 337-573-6772.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay, that's wonderful. Any final thoughts that you'd like to leave with us today?

SPEAKER_04:

Um there's a there's a lot of thoughts I'd like to leave you with, but um I think take you know, take care of yourself, prevent even if the insurance won't cover the preventive medicine, if you need it, get it. Um, and everybody needs it. It's preventive, right? Um, and then also go back to the core. I mean, take care of your core. Your core will take care of you if you take care of it.

SPEAKER_02:

So yes, I like that. And my final question is always how do you maintain your posture while pursuing your purpose in life?

SPEAKER_04:

Being confident about what you believe strongly in. So, you know, obviously I've been to the Capitol a few times. Uh, I know oh yeah, a couple friends and foes probably there over specific things. And um, but if you're confident in what you're fighting for, um, confidence makes a huge difference in how you present. So I think being confident is one of the the huge things. And sometimes you need a confidence coach too. Who knows, you know, like a life coach. If you need that, take it. I think sometimes our younger generation, they're scared to talk to people, and I'm like, you know what you know, you know, it's you're the you're the expert. Um, I I think about one of my aestheticians um right now, and she she's blossomed. We had a conversation this morning, you know, and she's so well-versed in everything we do at the spa, and she's so great at it. And and I just saw her confidence, you know, it's like over time, you know, her confidence is just boosted. And so she's great, but I just I think having confidence is the the big thing.

SPEAKER_02:

Okay, I love that answer. Okay, well, thank you everyone for listening to this episode. And until next time, sit up straight, stay happy, stay healthy, and stay adjusted.

SPEAKER_00:

Thanks for listening to the Posture and Purpose Podcast with Dr. Michelle Carr Frank. Make sure to subscribe on YouTube, Spotify, and Apple Podcasts. Until next time.