Posture & Purpose With Dr. Michelle Carr Frank

Posture & Purpose: Pilates vs Yoga with Angel Whitaker

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Posture changes fast when you get adjusted. It changes for good when you build the strength to hold it. That’s why I loved sitting down with Angel Whitaker, owner of IMX Pilates Lafayette, to talk about what Pilates actually does for your body and why core and spinal strength are non-negotiable if you want less pain and better movement.

We get specific about Pilates vs yoga, where they overlap, and where they’re truly different. Angel explains how reformer-based Pilates and IMX Pilates use resistance, apparatus, and key fundamentals like spinal elongation, pelvic stabilization, rib cage control, and forceful exhalation to build stability you can feel in real life. If you’ve ever thought Pilates is “just stretching,” this will reset that belief quickly.

We also talk about who Pilates is for, from total beginners to athletes, from clients with arthritis to people recovering after spinal fusion, joint replacement, or even stroke. Angel shares powerful stories about confidence returning, pain decreasing, and neuromuscular education clicking into place when people stay consistent. We go into how Pilates can complement chiropractic care, massage, and physical therapy, and why “rest forever” is often the wrong prescription when smart low-impact movement is available.

You’ll leave with practical takeaways too, including Angel’s pick for the most underrated exercise (glute bridges) and a simple reminder about reducing phone time to protect your neck and posture. Subscribe, share this with a friend who needs a safer strength plan, and leave a review if it helps. What would you like your body to be able to do again?

Core Strength Sets The Tone

SPEAKER_02

Core and spinal strength, which is you know just music to my ears because I preach it every day to my patients. They can come here and get aligned, they can get their adjustments, but they need to keep that core strength. And Pilates is such a good way to do that. Absolutely no better.

SPEAKER_00

Welcome to Posture and Purpose, where both healing and community come together. Make sure to subscribe on Apple, Spotify, and YouTube. Let's get into this episode with Dr. Michelle Car Frank.

SPEAKER_02

Hello and welcome to Posture and Purpose. Today I have Miss Angel with me that actually owns her own Pilates studio here in Lafayette, Louisiana. Tell us a little bit about yourself, what and your certifications.

SPEAKER_03

Well, I'm Angel Whitaker. I own IMX Pilates, and my certifications are super advanced. Um, tower training, bar training, um mat training, reformer training, um, all of the IMX certifications. I'm just not quite master. You're right under.

Pilates Vs Yoga Explained Clearly

SPEAKER_02

You uh wear many hats then. Yes. Quite a bit of experience to talk about there. I know one question a lot of people do ask me in my practice is what is the difference between Pilates and yoga?

SPEAKER_03

There's a lot of things that align, but they're completely totally two totally different practices. Um yoga is uh more breathwork and it focuses on alignment there as well, flexibility. Um Pilates, however, we use apparatuses such as the reformer, uh, the tower and the matten, the ring, things like that, um, to help focus on our core and spinal strength. Um, because if we don't have a strong core or spine, then we can't move our limbs effectively and safely. So um we focus a little bit more on core and spinal strength than Pilates.

How Angel Found Pilates

SPEAKER_02

Core and spinal strength, which is you know just music to my ears because I preach it every day to my patients. They can come here and get aligned, they can get their adjustments, but they need to keep that core strength. Right. And Pilates is such a good way to do that. Absolutely. No better. So, how did you first find Pilates as an interest and what led you to become a super certified advanced trainer?

SPEAKER_03

Well, I've been in health and wellness for a really long time. I've I've always loved group fitness, and um I actually have a health administration background, so it all kind of you know correlates there. Um, but I started going to IMX Pilates as a client, and so um I took over the studio probably two years after I started and um got my certification. So it's been about eight years since I started the certification process. Um I was doing a lot of weightlifting and feeling a lot of pain and aches all the time, and so that's why I went to IMX to see if it was something for me because it they focus on strength and flexibility, and um I found that I felt longer and leaner and I didn't hurt as much anymore, and I still got um the strengthening benefits um as I was getting with weightlifting, so I just felt better. Yes, and so that's what um I had a passion for it for myself. I wanted to share it with everybody else.

What Super Advanced Certification Means

SPEAKER_02

So, yes, pain is an indicator that will make people take notice quickly. You know, everyone now wants a quick fix, everything instant, and chiropractic isn't an instant fix, and Pilates isn't, and it's a buildup, it's a maintaining and it's uh persistence. You have to stay on top of it to get ahead of it and be preventative with your core strength and exercises. So, what does super certified mean? And to someone who might not actually understand the depth of this training, how would you explain it to them?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, there's multiple certifications through IMX Um Corporation, and um this is one of the more advanced certifications. So um super these specifically the super advanced certification incorporates special audiences, such as people with spinal issues, um, people that play golf, um, athletes, and pre- and postnatal. So that's certificate, that's what that certification includes. And then right below that, there's an advanced certification that includes all the similar workouts, but that doesn't focus on the special audiences. And then it kind of digresses from there. But it it's like you have to take one before you can take take the next.

Buying The Studio On A Reformer

SPEAKER_02

So it's obvious that your passion was in this. What made you take that leap of faith to not just being a trainer but to owning the business? How did that come about?

SPEAKER_03

Um, it was funny. The old owner, um, we were literally laying down next to each other on the machines working out, and she turned around and looked at me. I'm like, shouldn't we be looking at the ceiling, lengthening our neck, like thinking, and she goes, Angel, you would be perfect. I was like, What are you talking about? She's like, You want to buy the studio? And I was like, wait a minute, what are you talking about? I was like, let's finish working out and let's talk after class. And so we went through the negotiations and whatnot, and all the stars aligned, and I took over a few months after that and started my certification. I had about 90 days to get it done, and that was just the first little bit of kernel, and then from there, over the past eight years, I've been, you know, completing all the other certifications. So you so you've been quite busy, um, I assume.

What Makes IMX Pilates Different

SPEAKER_02

Yes. And so, how is uh the IMX Pilates different from like a classical Pilates or matte Pilates, what people are most, I think, familiar with?

SPEAKER_03

Right. Um, so IMX does incorporate matte. Um, the difference in it is that we we we incorporate uh resistance in the mat. We use a what we call a body bar, um, anywhere from five to maybe 12 pounds, if that, um, to add the resistance for the mat work. And then um our machine is patented by um Elise McNergy and the IMX Corporation, and it's a stronger, sturdier machine. It's made out of steel and aluminum, and it can um it can fit anywhere from probably someone around four foot two to anyone from I've had somebody almost seven foot tall use it. Oh wow, I've had someone um over 400 pounds use it. So it's a it's a very adjustable machine. So that's a lot, um, a lot of the differences there is the machine is a little bit sturdier, has more resistance. So we focus more on strength training and cardio. Um, and we focus on five fundamentals. Um, and the five fundamentals are spinal elongation, pelvic stabilization, rib case stabilization, and um the forceful exhalation. And that those are things that differentiate us.

SPEAKER_02

That is right up my alley, and it's meshes so well with chiropractic care. It does. Um, it makes my chiropractic heart very happy to hear you saying all this. More people need to know about it and need to know what you do and what you can offer because it sounds like you can help a lot of people. Um, does anyone need to be in good physical shape, or is it a good idea to already be in physical shape before starting a Pilates class, or can you cater to anyone at any point in their wellness journey?

SPEAKER_03

We can cater to anybody in the wellness journey. That is what's so great about the machine is that one, we have our your own own equipment so you don't have to worry about anybody else in the class. We also offer private lessons, so if for some from for some reason somebody's not ready to, um, we can do a couple of those or continue to do them that way. But the great thing about the machine is that you can reduce the resistance, and there's almost a modification for where the body can go and for every single position that um we may take for an exercise. So if someone can't stand up and lower and go into a plank into an inverted V, um, then we'll have them come to their knees and we'll change the resistance because that stability will change with the amount of support that's provided. So you can modify. We really can modify for pretty much anybody. So no excuses. No excuses. I have a client that's um 70 plus years old with Parkinson's, and that does classes. Oh, is that a private course? No, private classes. She wanted to be in classes, she wanted to have that energy and that support, and now it's like a little oh family with her in there.

Misconceptions And Menopause Strength Needs

SPEAKER_02

It's great, and that's good for the mental um as well. Absolutely, you know, just being with among others and enjoying it and being and you know being passionate about it. So I love to hear that. Now we already know because we talked about a little bit, what role posture and alignment play in everything you do as a Pilates instructor. But what is something or your number one most common misconception that people might have about Pilates and what you do?

SPEAKER_03

That it's easy. Ah, okay. Um it it strength doesn't come with ease. We all know this. Um, however, um Pilates isn't just stretching, it's about stretching the muscle to create more flexibility and length and to create um more strength and stability through your core so you can live a better quality of life. And it's about practicing and persistence and consistency.

Confidence Wins And Client Challenges

SPEAKER_02

Stay on top of it, don't stop. You can take a break, but you gotta stay on top of it. Especially um, you know, it's great uh for any age group, but for women that are approaching either perimenopause or menopause, that resistance training um is so important for those muscle uh strength and also bone health as well, that resistance. And I think more people um, you know, need to know about those uh items as they age as well. What do you think Pilates is really for and who do you see benefiting the most? Like who who's uh your favorite kind of client walking to the door? I know I love when people come in my office and they sit in the chair and I go through my history and they are scared to death of me. And to see them realize at the end of treatment how much change we can make going through that process, that's my ideal person because I love to see how to help people through that process. Is there someone or a story or anyone that stands out?

SPEAKER_03

There's so many. Um one that's standing out more recently is a client that came in that never worked out in her life. She was approaching the pre-perimenopausal stage and knew that she needed to start doing something, and um, she's not done an exercise in her life. I did some private training with her, maybe four or five sessions, and I said, You're aware of your body, you know where your body is in space, your proprioception, everything, it's great. I said, I want you to try a class because I think you'll benefit from the energy. And she did a class and she's like, I don't know, Angel, I'm still nervous. And I was like, Let's do another private. And I said, Okay, any questions about class? And she she didn't have anything right off, and she's like, I think it's just my confidence. And I said, Okay, well, I'm here to help you move and try to give you that confidence because you have the strength and you have that proprioception and you know where your body is and you listen well, and so those people that don't believe in themselves are the ones that I really feel my heart strings just get pulled at.

SPEAKER_01

And um, this is worth it.

SPEAKER_03

She's a special client, and now she's been there for I think nine months, and um, she just won our our first uh challenge. Oh, nice! Yeah, what was the challenge? Um, so they were supposed to do uh the first person that would the first person to get 20 sessions in a six-week period um wins uh won a prize. So we did like a relaxed basket and got them like a pliable uh gift certificate and another pair of grip socks and just to kind of treat them and you know hold hold the clients accountable and everybody really enjoyed doing that challenge. So it was that was the most recent um inspiring story.

Rehab Stories From Fusions To Stroke

SPEAKER_02

That stands out. Um, and that's great. Uh, what about rehab or injury? What about those clients that have been in uh a traumatic accident or maybe some prolonged injury healing or even pre prevention or rehab?

SPEAKER_03

A lot of our clients actually have some kind of injury or post-op in some way, shape, or form.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_03

I would say probably 70% of our clients spinal fusions, neck fusions, hip replacements, knee replacements, um, MCLs, ACLs, all the knee fun things that have that have a history of something and they're there for that reason. Um I recently have a client that um she's actually 76. Uh, she had a stroke like five or six years ago, and she doesn't have full function of her left of her right leg. And she um came to me yesterday actually, and she was able to extend her leg behind her and feel it and move it. Today she was in my class, she was able to actually feel it and move it. That neuromuscular education is just really fitting in and really just doing its magic. And she cried on my shoulder yesterday, and so injuries, um, strokes, things like that, like I mean, there's really not an excuse. If you can show up for yourself, the the mind and the muscles will work together, and it's just it's magical, and I'm sure you see it every day.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, yes, it's so rewarding. It's like, okay, this is why I keep getting up every day and doing this because you see that change going on in someone's life and how much of a difference that can make. So, what type of clients do you often see coming in with pain or different challenges that you can modify work workouts from recovering or dealing with chronic issues, maybe like you know, rheumatoids, something that you know it's not gonna heal. It's something that they need to live with long term. I'm sure you see some um dips in confidence with those types of conditions. But do you have a lot of clients that fit into that category? Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03

Um the arthritis is is the big one, what whatever stage they're they may be at, that's a big one. Um but the people that really benefit with um are the ones that show up consistently. Yeah. And they know that when they walk in, they're hurting, but once they get to moving, they feel a lot better walking out. Um, so that's that's really rewarding, especially with those people that are walking with pain and they leave with less. And then as they start getting stronger, they start, they start to notice, hey, I don't hurt anymore. Like I woke up this morning and then I feel good. Or it doesn't hurt as bad when I do, you know, X, Y, and Z activity.

Strength Without Form Causes Injuries

SPEAKER_02

So yeah, those small improvements can be a boost, absolutely, you know, for the mental aspect of it as well. I know during my time, way back when, when I was a personal trainer, it was a regular occurrence to see people pushing themselves too hard. Oh, they want to lift more, you know, and back in back in the day, there wasn't Pilates and you know, yoga wasn't that popular. It was weight training and weightlifting, it was so popular. Uh, but people hurt themselves so much because they wanted to do so much too soon, and that's when injuries take place. So, from your perspective, how does strength without proper form creates problems over time? I'm sure you experience that at your place. People are like, oh no, I can do this. I I worked out 20 years ago. Yeah, I'm strong.

SPEAKER_03

Um, there's a lot of different ways I can go with this. Um I went into Pilates because I was injured. Oh so I had a torch shoulder, I had um broken my ankle, things like that, so I had to recover. Um, and I was one of those people that wanted to push and wanted to lift heavy, but I had to come to the realization that it you didn't necessarily have to have that excessive weight to gain strength. Right. Um, and so um coming to that realization that hey, like we can take it down a notch and um help prevent injury.

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_03

And if I had taken Pilates before I was lifting weights, my form, my rip, my um, I would have, you know, PR'd significantly more had someone told me to lengthen my spine and not tuck my pelvis and to not bring my shoulders into my ears. And there's so many different things that Pilates teaches you, or IMX Pilates teaches you that if you have the tools, you can live a better quality of life, you can lift heavier, you can do so many things uh more efficiently.

SPEAKER_02

And for years to come. Yeah. You're building a lot of people.

SPEAKER_03

I mean, friction up in that cabinet to get to that coffee pot, like a the coffee cup, excuse me. Is is something that becomes very hard if you don't have that shrink later on in life.

Pilates Plus Chiropractic Works Better Together

SPEAKER_02

Exactly. And mobility. So, how do you feel Pilates and chiropractic care could complement you complement each other? Because what you're you're right, you're you know, you're right, right, right up the same lines for sure.

SPEAKER_03

Um we uh actually work with a lot of different chiropractors in town. Like we the a lot of their clients come to come to the studio. Um it works it works very well with very cohesive uh partnerships. Um we have um some people that um I'm trying to think of one person that uh we had an issue with the shoulder and um she had some hip pains and overcompensation, things like that. So it's like okay, so did you go see your chiropractor? What did they say? Did they say it was okay for you to work out? Did you need a rest? Are you in an inflamm inflammation kind of situation? So it's good to good to kind of communicate between the clients and the physicians and make sure that they're ready to come back for care. And that co-management is so important.

SPEAKER_02

So, what changes do you notice mostly when clients combined Pilates not only with chiropractic adjustments, but maybe with massage or physical therapy? And what is one thing that you wish healthcare providers understood more about movement-based therapies? Because, you know, most, let's be honest, most medical doctors either write a prescription, they're not gonna sit there and show people how to stretch or talk to them about core strengthening or mobility. How does that play a part in what you do? Do you see a lot of that in your um so you're saying what is one thing that you wish healthcare providers knew more about?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, that's uh one of the things that is most frustrating in what I do because I'm get physicians know that this client can't do Pilates for X, Y, and Z reason. And it's it's frustrating because um I'm trying to step over my words here, but I just need to say it out loud. Um it's frustrating because it's a it's a low impact exercise that shouldn't be causing them that issue. And um they're preventing them from moving, which is causing them more pain. And so it's contraindicative. It's a cycle, it's gonna keep happening unless they get that strength and mobility back. Right. And they're like, no, you just need to rest. And I'm like, no, we just need to reduce the resistance. Keep moving if there's not a real diagnosis, you know, some excess, like you need a spinal fusion or anything like that, or you need a hip replacement. Like we need to keep moving because that's probably the worst medicine is to stop moving.

Yoga And Daily Practices For Balance

SPEAKER_02

So yeah, I always say movement is medicine. And I mean, we just have to remind ourselves and our patients and clients. So I'm sure interdisciplinary care is so important uh, you know, for you when it comes to wellness. But do you have anything else besides Pilates that you like to incorporate into your wellness journey?

SPEAKER_03

Yes, I actually I do weightlifting. Um, I still do weightlifting. I don't lift 200, 300 pounds anymore, but I I do um some free weights and uh yoga. Yoga is my I in my daily practice.

Small Business Challenges And Choosing A Studio

SPEAKER_02

Yes, is that how you decompress maybe after a long week or a lot of going back and forth and uh traveling and whatnot? Yes, yes. That's that helps go to I that's gonna center my chi there. What challenges uh I know you have a lot going on um with the the business, but what challenges do you face, maybe owning the business, being a female in business, or even being in business in Lafayette? Are there any particular challenges that you faced?

SPEAKER_03

Well, with any small business, um, it's it's a challenge uh to continue to grow, continue to educate people, you know what we do. Um there's a lot of Pilates places popping up around here. And um I think that um it's just very challenging to educate people on what's the difference between each type of approach. They're all great in their own ways. Um it's just it's it's very challenging to um because people think Pilates is just Pilates. Yes, they do. Um Pilates-inspired movements are a little bit different than Pilates. Uh IMX Pilates. And classical Pilates is a little bit different than IMX Pilates. Um you know, they all have their benefits, um, and I think that's one of the hardest things is just educating the community on what it is, what the differences are. Because they think, but you know, just like they think yoga is Pilates, they think Pilates is Pilates everywhere, it's all the same, but it's not.

SPEAKER_02

So if someone was looking and they said, Okay, I definitely want to go and try this, I want to do this. What are some of the questions they should ask? I know you said there's several that have been popping up in laffyet. What are some of the questions people should ask when they're Walk in the door to whomever uh Pilates, what what should they be asking?

SPEAKER_03

I always like to say it depends on what your goal is.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_03

You know, are you are you looking for strength and stability? Are you looking for um a culture that is warm and welcoming and um mixed, you know, and infused with uh the warm and welcoming atmosphere? Are you looking for, you know, maybe a little bit less resistant, something a little bit um not as intense, then you know, this may not be for you, but we can modify, you know. Um, so there's there's a lot of different questions that they could ask. It just really kind of depends on what their goal is. Um, what are they looking for? Are they recovering from an injury? Um, do they focus? Does it does that studio focus on special populations? Um so many questions.

SPEAKER_02

Can they handle it? You know, because you can't just walk into any one. Um you know, this really you have to have the proper training. How many Pilates places are in Lafayette now? Do you even know?

SPEAKER_03

Oh, I don't even know. There are at least six that I can think of right off the top of my head. Some of them are more a therap physical therapy approach. Okay. Um, some of them are more classical, and then some of them are more like a Pilates inspired movement type of um boutique fitnesses or fitness studios or whatever.

SPEAKER_02

So I didn't know there was a Pilates inspired movement out there. I think that's a good idea. I bet a lot of people don't know that.

SPEAKER_03

Yes, yes, there's and so um they're not I think a lot of people think that because the classical approach was a little bit more for dancers and things like that, that they think that it's just for women, or they think that um it's easy, um, and it's it's not it's for all walks of life. And Mel is the one that created the program, you know, initially, Joseph Pilates.

The Surprising Origins Of Pilates

SPEAKER_02

So um what did educate me on this? Yeah. What do you talk about?

SPEAKER_03

So um Joseph Pilates helped um re rehabilitate uh war soldiers. And um That is so interesting. I didn't know. Yes, and he came over to New York City and um created the reformer or apparatuses that ended up becoming into the reformer out of bed springs and trying to create resistance and um for his clients because in let me backtrack in the in the war zone he used those springs from the mattress to create resistance for them because he saw they were getting better, but then they kind of plateaued, so they needed to get stronger. And so then Joseph Always came over to New York City and started dancing, I mean started um teaching the dancers um how to create more length, um, gain more strength. So important. Um, and so then he started working with dancers, and then that's kind of how it all his predecessors kind of evolved, evolved, and then there became Elise McNergy, which is the founder of our our um IMX, and she's she studied it and did research, and now we're science-backed. And so now all of our movements and our fundamentals are backed by research and science. So important. It has evolved so much that that's why there's multiple interpretations of uh what Pilates is, yeah, and what you do.

SPEAKER_02

So, what year would that have been? Which war? World World War II?

SPEAKER_03

Sorry, that was in 1920 the 1920s and World War I.

Staying Grounded With Many Responsibilities

SPEAKER_02

I that is a great story. I did not know that. And uh, any other ways that you personally uh focus on health and wellness, just like mind, body, everything besides training or being in a gym setting?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, um, I actually wake up every morning and read Journey to Journey of the Heart by Melody Beattie. Have you heard of her? I have. Um beautiful story she has. Um, and I read her daily devotional every day to kind of start my day, and then um I um read The Secret Every Morning, my little passage every morning, just to get my day started. It's very important for me to stay positive. Um, I have a lot going on, multiple businesses, studios, employees, and things like that. And so um it's it's a great way to kind of stay grounded and to remember how exactly how much you have and to be thankful for it. So how many businesses do you own? Um between the husband, my husband and I, we have six, and um, it gets interesting at points. I manage all of his books, I manage my books, and um I also have a um medical consulting practice.

SPEAKER_02

That's what I was gonna ask you. Is it all Pilates-based businesses?

SPEAKER_03

No. Um, my uh my consulting um platform is uh for small medical practices.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_03

So I help with credentialing and um contracting and things like that. And so when I have those big contracts coming up, it's it gets a little gotta move my pieces. I do need to manage. In for you in that respect. Okay. Um and my husband is in the auto finance industry.

Glute Bridges And Putting Phones Down

SPEAKER_02

So can you name one exercise that you think everyone should be doing but isn't? Glute bridges. Okay, I wish you could show us exactly what that is because I know when people are listening to this, they may not know what that is, but Google it.

SPEAKER_03

Um why? Tell us why. Um and the glute bridges, it it not only um activates your deep core muscles, but it activates your glute muscles. Um, and it helps lengthen through the front side of the body, which we don't do often because we sit often. Um also it gives you more cushion on your bottom. It helps you build a little bit of strength. And you can also add resistance to that as well to help build more strength. So glute bridges are my go-to. I you know, my clients will attest that I I like to work the booty. Okay, okay. I love that.

SPEAKER_02

And it's so important for stability. Um and especially in the aging um community to you know prevent slips and falls and things like that. Strengthen, strengthen, strengthen. Strengthen your hips. Yes. Name one daily habit that everyone is doing that they should not be doing or should be doing less of. I think it's the phones. Yeah. It's hard to get a different answer because it's everywhere, you know. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

We need to put the phones down. It's it's a it's an issue. And honestly, I couldn't live without mine because my businesses wouldn't run without it. But yeah, you know, I do try to take that time to to decompress from it. Put it down. Yes. We lived before the phone, we'll be okay. Yeah, we were joking about that this morning in the class. Really? Yes. When our electronics go down, what do we do? We panic. Now we do at least. We get a paper and pen.

How To Find IMX Pilates Lafayette

SPEAKER_02

Exactly. Back in the good old days. So, how can our listeners find you when they are ready, which they should be ready today after listening to you talk about this? How can they find you and how can they become a member of your um training facility?

SPEAKER_03

Um, you can find us on the Mind Body application and under IMX Pilates Lafayette, or you can find us at imxpilates.com forward slash Lafayette, and then IMX Lafayette on Instagram and the same for Facebook. Okay, and where's the physical um classes are they held here in Lafayette? Uh 2207 Cauley Saloon, Suite E. We're just a few doors down from La Madeline's.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, okay. Yes. I know where you are. Not too far. I know where you are. So great. So if you haven't already, go sign up for that class and work on that core strength. And uh this is the lady to help you. She's got a great team, I know that. Um one of my friends, I'll say, Miss Jennifer, works there and she's there training. And um she's taught me a lot about Pilates and told me how wonderful everything is there and how many people you guys help. So I really appreciate you taking the time to be here today. Thank you for having me.

SPEAKER_03

And thanks, Jen, for connecting us.

Posture Principles And Closing Message

SPEAKER_02

I appreciate it. Yes, absolutely. So my last question is usually how do you maintain your posture while pursuing your purpose in life?

SPEAKER_03

I often tell my clients commitment plus consistency equals results. And as long as you have that commitment and that consistency, your purpose will be pushed forward. Um, and there's there's a lot of different things in life that will throw at you, and you just have to stay grounded and stay steady and keep pushing forward.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

And that positivity is is vital.

SPEAKER_02

Good days and bad, push forward. I love that message. So thank you. And until next time, sit up straight, stay happy, stay healthy, and stay adjusted.

SPEAKER_00

Thanks for listening to the Posture and Purpose Podcast with Dr. Michelle Car Frank. Make sure to subscribe on YouTube, Spotify, and Apple Podcasts. Until next time.