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We started a new series last week.

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It's a series.

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Yeah, it's a series.

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Um I started off by I guess trying to scare you straight or scare us straight.

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Is that a thing?

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I talked about this idea that says when we're in relationship with other humans and we're unskillful, we're toxic, we're something.

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That thing goes into the long-term memory of the people in our lives.

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I told a story about how one time years ago, I don't even remember what happened.

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I wanted to get something, I wanted Jeff to buy into something.

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And so I said, hey, we're gonna do this.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Okay.

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And then we'll do this.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Okay, we'll do this.

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Okay, yeah, yeah.

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Okay, we'll do this.

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Then a couple weeks later, he was like, Hey, why are we doing that?

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I was like, Oh.

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I snuck that underneath those things and got you to say yes to it almost by proxy.

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From that day on.

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Let's do this.

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Can you buy into this?

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I get this.

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That's what happens when you do something.

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I'll be charitable, unskillful.

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It gets stuck in somebody's long-term memory, and now their memory basically watches you against that thing and just keeps checking.

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Is it close to that thing?

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Part of your brain is called a primitive, it just keeps looking.

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Yep, wait, that's like that.

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Danger, stop.

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That was Jeff doing this.

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If you have a relationship in your life where there's no fly zones, you know, the topics you don't talk about, the things you pretend didn't happen, chances are that's a long-term memory, something stuck in there, and their brain's constantly checking against that, going, wait a second, we're close to that thing that hurt me.

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You hurt me.

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I said, if you were doing unskillful things in your life right now, you're sending the problems of your life to the future.

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You can you throw up the picture for me when you have a second?

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This is the part of me who most of my problems get taken care of by that guy, or at least get sent to that guy.

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He doesn't like me very much.

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Because by the time the stuff gets to him, he's looking at me going, You idiot, why didn't you just do it right the first time instead of sending it to me and making me deal with it?

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But somehow we think that future us, and we all have a future us, goes to the gym more than we do, eats healthier than we do, is more skillful in relationships than we do, is better with money than we are.

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He'll take care of it.

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I said in this series.

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Let's behave in a way that future us and future people around us say thank you.

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Thank you for being skillful.

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Thank you for taking care of things in a way that doesn't get stuck in long-term memory and then comes back and haunts us for 15 years.

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Me and Jeff fought about that one for 15 years.

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Everything was harder.

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Because I was unskillful.

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Future Vince was like, seriously, if we have to fight over this one more time, I swear I'm gonna cry.

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And yet, in moments of frustration, in moments of being triggered, in moments of anger, in moments of people pleasing, you can feel that.

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I'll just send it to future me.

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They can deal with it.

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I heard a story about someone just the other day.

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Long-term friend comes to them, says, uh, we're done.

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Like 30-year friendship.

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Walked up to the person and was like, we're done.

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We're not friends anymore.

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And you're like, What do you mean?

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I've known you for 30 years.

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There's like you don't just you can't just end that.

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The friend was like, no, we are done.

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Future me looks at you, and all I see is wounding, taking advantage of me, treating me like crap.

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And suddenly we realize there's a moment, there's there's part of it that sends us to future us, but future us also has that moment where relationships start to fail.

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Someone walks up to you and says, I don't want to be connected to you anymore.

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I heard um more often than you'd want to know.

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Parents saying, My kid no longer talks to me.

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There's now a saying, it's a classification.

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They go, no contact.

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The relationship has been damaged or unskillful for so long that now the kids are just going, even though you're my parent, I'm not talking to you anymore.

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As a parent, think about that for a moment.

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Not only do they not come to family gatherings, they won't even answer your text to say I'm okay.

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Why?

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Because of stuff that happened years ago.

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And now we're paying for it.

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It's sobering this stuff, isn't it?

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The amount of relationship damage that I see looking at my wife kind of out of the side of my eye, like the amount of unskillful things we've done, I have done in relationships and then spent years paying the price for.

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Last week was a punch in the gut.

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It's the like scare you straight.

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Like, if we don't fix this, we will lose relationships over this.

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We will lose connection with the people that we value and that we love over this.

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This week is the how do we make sure we don't do that?

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That was the like bad cop, this is the good cop.

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This is the how do we do this skillfully?

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And the way we're gonna learn to do this skillfully is to make you conscious of what you're doing that's not skillful.

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My friend whose 30-year friend came up to them and said, we're done, didn't even see it coming.

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How much of this stuff are we actually unconscious of?

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We're doing when we don't realize what we're doing.

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We just catch the blow up, we catch the fight, we catch the broken relationship, we catch the loneliness.

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At the end of this message, you will not be able to use unconsciousness anymore.

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I didn't know.

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You can use the ah crap.

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I screwed that one up again.

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That you'll have.

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But we won't be able to be unconscious of this anymore.

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To do that, we're gonna have to do a little bit of work.

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There's a couple, the Gottmans.

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Anyone heard of the Gottmans, Baby Ann?

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Great couple.

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They actually, many years ago, I don't even know if 70s, 80s, does anybody know when the love lab was first started?

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70s, 80s, give or take 20 years somewhere in there.

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The other day.

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The other day they built uh a lab.

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So what they did is they at the University of Washington, they built a little looks like a hotel room with like a living room, kitchen, uh, bedroom, and they brought couples in.

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What they were trying to figure out is why do some couples stay together and why do some couples break up?

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Why do some relationships work and why do some didn't?

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We didn't know at this time how it worked.

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In fact, the the prevalent thought of the day was when you reveal a lot of intimate details of your life, it creates connection in marriages.

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Don't worry, I'm not just gonna stay in marriage.

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This translates into all relationships.

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But I need to show it to you this way first.

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And so what they did is they put cameras, it wasn't that creepy, in all the rooms but the bedroom, and they put on microphones with people, and for uh, let's see, everything but nine hours.

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They were allowed nine hours of mics off.

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They had sensors on them so they could tell if their heart rate got elevated.

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Again, what they're trying to figure out is when was the relationship working and when was it not?

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And so him and his research cohort sat there on video cameras watching these couples, and they were waiting for these moments of like, you know, what I was for this traumatic thing happened to me, and you know, I've always wanted this, and I've never been willing to share.

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That's what they were looking for.

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You know what they got?

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Pass assault.

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Did you see that cat video?

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What do you think about this news article?

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Sup.

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He has spent tens of thousands of dollars, he's risked his professional reputation, and he's watching couples watch cat videos together, and he's thinking to himself, I just wasted a whole lot of my life.

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Like I'm getting fired, my grants are getting pulled, this is the end of my career.

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This is done.

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Until he realized something so important that it's like he couldn't see, it was so obvious.

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The core idea of what creates connection and relationships isn't the deep sharing of things.

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It was actually the hey, have you seen this cat video?

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Hey, can you pass the salt?

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Whew.

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It's raining out there, isn't it?

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Yeah.

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What do you realize is there's a core thing that we all do called bidding.

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That is a bid right there.

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We'll talk about that in a second.

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And actually, mom's handling it very well.

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We'll talk about that in a second, too.

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When we're very, very little, we know how to do this.

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A bid is the core piece of how we create connection with another human.

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It's reaching out and saying, hey, hey, hey, hey, can I have your attention for a second?

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Now, when they started to see that, they realized there was bids everywhere.

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It was happening nonstop.

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The couples were bidding tens, hundreds of times per day.

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Little things.

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Did you like the soup?

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Not my favorite.

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Wouldn't order it at a restaurant.

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Yeah, I thought it was a bit salty.

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And then what they realized, they started to see the bids.

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Then they realized there's always, and again, this is couples, there's a bid, and then there's a response to the bid.

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And it's how we respond to a bid that will make or break our relationships.

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Let me say this again, because this matters.

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How you respond to the bid is what makes or breaks the relationship.

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Again, they got nerdy, so what they did is they started the catalog.

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They created three categories.

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They called it turning towards a bid, turning against a bid, or turning away from a bid.

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Y'all are gonna have an opportunity to experience this in real life in a few minutes.

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But before we go there, I want to just say one more thing.

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The Gottmans, after years, maybe decades of this work, got so skillful that they could sit down a couple in front of them, watch them interact for an hour, and tell you if they were going to be together in four years or not, with a 94% accuracy rate.

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Think about that for a second.

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They could watch a couple interact when they were together.

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They're like, hey, we're fine.

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We might be having a little bit of trouble, it's whatever.

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But they could watch that couple, and the Gotmans would be able to say, in four years, you're gonna be divorced.

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That's a bit freaky, isn't it?

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I don't think I would invite them to a dinner party.

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Don't look at me, you're judging me.

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Meanwhile, they're looking at each other going like they could look at you and watch how you responded.

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This bidding and responsibility, there's a few other things, but it this is the core of it.

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And say, in four years, even though you say you're in love, you say you want to be married, you say you want this relationship to work, they're like, nope, in four years you'll be done.

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If you get this wrong, if you choose to stay unconscious and do this wrong, you and your kids, you and your parents, you and your friends, the Gottmunds will look at you and say, in four years you will not be connected anymore.

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That's bloody sobering.

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When I first read that, I thought, that can't be.

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Then I read the really thick book called The Science of Trust, and I was like, they did the math.

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Could it be that we are currently behaving in a way that's destroying the relationships that we value?

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But we don't know it yet.

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That relationship is like the walking dead, and we don't know.

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Ouch! That sucks, doesn't it?

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Well, no, it's that's not sucks.

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It's scary.

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That's the word I want.

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It's scary.

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Could it be I'm doing the things that are gonna destroy my relationship today, and I don't even know I'm doing it.

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Before I learned this stuff, I was doing it wrong.

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That I can tell you for sure.

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I can go back into my life and go, yep, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.

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I didn't even know it was wrong.

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I didn't even know it was right.

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So today I'm gonna give you the opportunity to learn.

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Here's what I'm gonna do.

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We're gonna do this live together.

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Is anyone up for a live together?

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So I'm not sure I'm up for live together.

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So here's what I'm gonna do.

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I'm gonna have Nathaniel.

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Nathaniel's back there, he's on multimedia.

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Give us a little wave, Nathaniel.

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He's gonna run the show back there.

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He's gonna throw up two lines on the screen.

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The first one's gonna be context.

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The second is gonna be the line.

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I'm gonna respond to the line in real time.

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Their second line that they're gonna say is the bid.

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I'm gonna respond to the bid.

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First, I'm gonna show you the different responses you can do, and then we're gonna start doing it live together where we're gonna, I'm just gonna like go to town and you all are gonna figure out am I turning towards the bid?

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Turning against the bid, turning away from the bid?

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What am I doing?

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So if you're up for it, I want someone to come to the mic and I'm gonna get you to read.

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There's a bunch of people, so just every time I'm gonna get a new person to the mic.

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If someone someone's willing to talk to the mic, please, please.

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Don't less.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Les.

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Okay, so can you put the first line with context?

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And that's it.

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Feel free to go as creative as you want.

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If you want to act this thing out and get into character, feel free.

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Daddy, watch me.

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What are you doing, buddy?

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Let me see it.

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That looks awesome.

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See, this is called turning towards the bid.

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Do you notice what I did?

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I instantly went to he's like, Watch me.

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I was like, Yeah, yeah.

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The bid is daddy, watch me.

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The turn towards is what are you doing, buddy?

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Show me.

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There's actually a story in the Bible, a guy named Zacchaeus.

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Just stay there for a second, okay?

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Guy named Zacchaeus.

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Zacchaeus is a short guy.

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That's not really the punchline of the story.

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He is also short, but it that helps us get to the next part of the story.

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He's actually hated by everybody.

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He's a tax collector, which is um code for he's of the same culture, but he's working for the bad guys to screw over his own people.

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So whenever you read in the Bible, tax collector, just think everybody hates that person.

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So Zacchaeus, the tax collector, who everyone hates, is hears that Jesus is coming to town.

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So what does he do?

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He climbs a tree to be able to see Jesus.

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Jesus walks around the corner in the town.

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He sees Zacchaeus.

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The bid.

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Is Zacchaeus in the tree going?

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And Jesus turns to him and says, Hey, I'm coming to your house tonight.

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Changes Zacchaeus' life.

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Can you feel turning towards the bid?

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Okay.

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So let's do it again.

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Just one second, let me get into character.

00:19:05.359 --> 00:19:06.079
Hold on a second.

00:19:07.680 --> 00:19:08.000
Okay.

00:19:09.119 --> 00:19:09.680
Let's go.

00:19:09.759 --> 00:19:10.559
Uh there we go.

00:19:10.720 --> 00:19:13.039
Context parent to young child.

00:19:13.599 --> 00:19:14.640
Parent to young child.

00:19:14.720 --> 00:19:16.160
Yeah, that you're oh, okay, okay.

00:19:16.240 --> 00:19:16.319
Okay.

00:19:16.480 --> 00:19:17.119
No, same one.

00:19:17.279 --> 00:19:17.759
All right.

00:19:18.160 --> 00:19:19.039
Same one.

00:19:19.759 --> 00:19:21.440
Hey, Daddy, watch me.

00:19:21.599 --> 00:19:22.559
Oh, seriously, kid.

00:19:22.640 --> 00:19:24.079
Do you know how busy I am right now?

00:19:24.240 --> 00:19:26.000
Do you know how much I have going on?

00:19:27.519 --> 00:19:28.880
You suck, daddy.

00:19:32.720 --> 00:19:35.119
Turning against the bid.

00:19:35.759 --> 00:19:40.559
How many times does someone bid at the wrong time, the wrong tone of voice, the wrong way, the wrong something?

00:19:40.640 --> 00:19:43.920
And we're like, huh, what are you thinking?

00:19:44.480 --> 00:19:48.240
Uh, remember, I told you a story about uh Joseph a couple weeks ago.

00:19:48.480 --> 00:19:52.480
I said Joseph in the Tex Color Dream Coat, he's wearing the multicolored coat.

00:19:52.640 --> 00:19:57.119
I actually think a better translation is he's wearing a girly dress.

00:19:57.519 --> 00:20:03.200
I think he's wearing something that culturally wasn't common for a man to wear.

00:20:04.480 --> 00:20:05.440
It's my reading.

00:20:05.519 --> 00:20:08.000
I think it's well attested in the text.

00:20:08.480 --> 00:20:10.319
But think about it from this point of view.

00:20:10.559 --> 00:20:16.400
He comes to his brothers wearing the outfit that makes him feel fully himself.

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Is that not a bid?

00:20:21.759 --> 00:20:30.799
When your kids show up in your room and they're wearing whatever they want, even though you're thinking it's inappropriate and you want to go, like, go into your room and change, which is again against the bid.

00:20:32.480 --> 00:20:36.880
Joseph shows up in what makes him feel truly himself.

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And his brothers sell him to slavery.

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Talk about turning against a bid.

00:20:47.920 --> 00:20:49.599
Anyone ever turned against a bid?

00:20:49.680 --> 00:20:50.559
Don't put up your hand.

00:20:51.680 --> 00:20:52.799
I can see your faces.

00:20:52.880 --> 00:20:54.400
You're all like, shh.

00:20:55.279 --> 00:20:59.839
You know, when the Gottman studied this stuff, turning towards obviously built the relationship.

00:21:00.000 --> 00:21:04.079
Turning against damaged it, but it wasn't the most damaging relationship thing to do.

00:21:04.880 --> 00:21:06.400
Can we try it once more?

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Daddy, watch me.

00:21:17.200 --> 00:21:19.519
The cat's in the cradle, Daddy.

00:21:21.440 --> 00:21:24.400
It's called turning away from the bed.

00:21:25.039 --> 00:21:29.839
Can you feel the first moment when he said, Daddy, watch me, and I turned my back on him?

00:21:30.640 --> 00:21:32.319
There's this feeling of like.

00:21:33.440 --> 00:21:39.599
And then also you kind of feel that sick feeling in your throat where it's like, oh, that doesn't feel good, does it?

00:21:39.920 --> 00:21:40.799
Thanks, Les.

00:21:41.599 --> 00:21:43.920
Let's give Russ Les a big round applause.

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We're not done.

00:21:46.400 --> 00:21:47.440
We have a few more.

00:21:47.519 --> 00:21:53.119
So if any of you are okay talking on the mic, just like get your inner child ready and let's we're gonna do this.

00:21:53.359 --> 00:21:54.960
Let me tell you a quick story.

00:21:55.119 --> 00:21:59.359
Uh, there's two uh sisters, Martha and uh Mary.

00:22:00.160 --> 00:22:02.880
They're having a dinner party, they invite Jesus over.

00:22:03.440 --> 00:22:07.440
We actually don't hear the first bid, we hear the reaction to the bid.

00:22:08.319 --> 00:22:15.200
It seems that the bid first started with Martha saying to Mary, her sister, Can you give me a little help here?

00:22:16.079 --> 00:22:18.319
Or like hosting a dinner party.

00:22:19.759 --> 00:22:21.519
And Mary blows her off.

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Turns away from the bid.

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And just sits there.

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Ignoring her.

00:22:31.680 --> 00:22:43.279
The Gotmans found the turning away from the bid is the one that destroys relationships most reliably, most often, and most quickly.

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We don't see the bid.

00:22:48.880 --> 00:22:50.880
We don't want to deal with the bid.

00:22:52.000 --> 00:22:54.640
They've bid too often, and now we're sick of it.

00:22:57.599 --> 00:22:58.960
Sobering, isn't it?

00:23:00.799 --> 00:23:09.200
How many times have you been in the middle of something and you realize someone is trying to get our attention, trying to make that bid, and your first reaction is to just ignore it?

00:23:09.440 --> 00:23:10.720
I'm working.

00:23:11.039 --> 00:23:12.559
I got stuff to do.

00:23:16.240 --> 00:23:16.559
Okay.

00:23:18.559 --> 00:23:21.119
You guys now know turn towards the bid.

00:23:21.359 --> 00:23:23.359
You know, turn against the bid.

00:23:23.599 --> 00:23:25.759
And you know, turn away from the bid.

00:23:26.640 --> 00:23:28.240
Here's what we're going to do now.

00:23:28.400 --> 00:23:29.200
I'm going to have people.

00:23:29.440 --> 00:23:30.960
Can someone else someone else volunteer?

00:23:31.039 --> 00:23:31.440
Come on up.

00:23:31.519 --> 00:23:32.480
Come on up, Sean.

00:23:32.720 --> 00:23:34.960
Bryce, I'll have you happen next.

00:23:35.200 --> 00:23:36.160
Give me one second.

00:23:36.240 --> 00:23:37.519
I'm just going to get set up here.

00:23:37.759 --> 00:23:38.880
Here's what we're going to do.

00:23:39.039 --> 00:23:41.599
I'm going to get them to read the context line.

00:23:41.839 --> 00:23:43.839
Then they're going to read the the bid.

00:23:44.079 --> 00:23:45.039
I'm going to respond.

00:23:45.119 --> 00:23:46.799
And then you guys are going to vote.

00:23:47.119 --> 00:23:48.160
What response?

00:23:48.319 --> 00:23:49.680
What was my response to the bid?

00:23:49.759 --> 00:23:52.799
Was it turning away, turning against, turning towards?

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Make sense?

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Audience participation.

00:23:56.079 --> 00:23:56.960
Okay, Sean.

00:23:57.039 --> 00:23:58.799
Let's what's what we got here?

00:24:00.000 --> 00:24:02.640
Context spouses morning routine.

00:24:03.279 --> 00:24:05.279
This coffee is so good this morning.

00:24:05.519 --> 00:24:07.759
You know, it was really much better last week.

00:24:07.839 --> 00:24:11.440
But like, seriously, when you make coffee, can you partly use the other beans?

00:24:11.599 --> 00:24:15.759
Because these beans, like, they're just not, I think they're stale or something like that.

00:24:21.200 --> 00:24:24.480
Even Sean's face is like, I don't feel very good.

00:24:24.559 --> 00:24:26.079
Can you do one more for me?

00:24:26.319 --> 00:24:26.640
Okay.

00:24:29.599 --> 00:24:30.319
Context.

00:24:30.480 --> 00:24:33.440
Partners at a party telling some friends a story.

00:24:33.680 --> 00:24:35.599
Last week, Tuesday, we were driving downtown.

00:24:35.920 --> 00:24:36.880
It was Wednesday.

00:24:38.160 --> 00:24:38.720
What?

00:24:39.599 --> 00:24:40.880
We didn't go on Tuesday.

00:24:40.960 --> 00:24:42.000
It was Wednesday.

00:24:42.240 --> 00:24:44.160
I tell you every time it's Wednesday.

00:24:44.240 --> 00:24:45.839
It's not Tuesday.

00:24:46.799 --> 00:24:48.480
Isn't that one horrible?

00:24:50.000 --> 00:24:50.799
Sorry, buddy.

00:24:51.759 --> 00:24:52.160
Thank you.

00:24:52.240 --> 00:24:52.640
You're good.

00:24:52.720 --> 00:24:52.960
You're good.

00:24:53.039 --> 00:24:54.240
You can go sit down.

00:24:55.599 --> 00:24:56.640
How many?

00:24:58.240 --> 00:25:02.240
How many people have corrected somebody's detail of a story that they're telling?

00:25:02.400 --> 00:25:04.319
Just put up your hand to be honest.

00:25:05.680 --> 00:25:07.359
Isn't that brutal?

00:25:07.759 --> 00:25:12.559
And yet there's something so deep inside of us that's like, I can't not correct this.

00:25:15.119 --> 00:25:24.240
If you're on the stand in a courtroom and you've been sworn in, feel free to correct the person if they've made a mistake.

00:25:24.720 --> 00:25:32.000
If it's a bid, sweet Jesus, please, Vince, do not correct the details.

00:25:32.240 --> 00:25:34.400
It's not about the details.

00:25:35.440 --> 00:25:37.279
Can you see what it felt like for Sean?

00:25:37.440 --> 00:25:40.079
Can you see what it felt like when I turned against him?

00:25:40.799 --> 00:25:42.640
It's brutal, isn't it?

00:25:42.880 --> 00:25:47.440
And yet in our minds we're going, no, no, no, no, no, I'm just fixing it.

00:25:47.920 --> 00:25:49.359
Just got the detail wrong.

00:25:51.279 --> 00:25:52.720
Okay, let's try another one.

00:25:52.799 --> 00:25:55.680
Can I get some uh sorry, uh Bryce, do you want to come up?

00:25:57.519 --> 00:25:58.799
Okay, what do we got?

00:25:59.200 --> 00:26:00.799
Throw it up, Miss Annuel.

00:26:08.400 --> 00:26:11.519
Context, adult child-to-parent phone call.

00:26:12.240 --> 00:26:14.079
I've just been really tired lately.

00:26:14.319 --> 00:26:15.119
Oh, really?

00:26:15.359 --> 00:26:16.960
What's been going on for you, man?

00:26:17.759 --> 00:26:19.119
My horses got out.

00:26:19.359 --> 00:26:19.759
Really?

00:26:19.920 --> 00:26:20.240
Yeah.

00:26:20.400 --> 00:26:20.799
Were they?

00:26:21.359 --> 00:26:23.519
Were they like they you they got out of the pen?

00:26:24.000 --> 00:26:26.960
My yard, I live in suburbia and I wasn't supposed to have them.

00:26:27.200 --> 00:26:28.079
Oh my goodness.

00:26:28.240 --> 00:26:29.039
That's brutal.

00:26:29.279 --> 00:26:30.480
Did the bylaw guys come?

00:26:34.319 --> 00:26:36.240
Can you feel the difference though?

00:26:36.960 --> 00:26:44.720
Like, again, I went a little deeper into it with a little curiosity, but even that, like, oh should probably be curious if a man in suburbia's horses got out.

00:26:45.920 --> 00:26:49.119
I was like, I love that you came up with that off the cuff.

00:26:49.279 --> 00:26:57.200
But there's a side of you, even if he says, like, I've had a rough day, if you just go like this, oh like, oh, that's brutal.

00:26:57.279 --> 00:26:58.160
I'm sorry, man.

00:26:58.799 --> 00:27:00.079
Can you feel the difference?

00:27:00.319 --> 00:27:01.599
Okay, can we do you one more?

00:27:01.680 --> 00:27:02.079
Mm-hmm.

00:27:02.319 --> 00:27:02.640
Okay.

00:27:04.400 --> 00:27:09.200
Friends, text message, GIF of Garfield, ugh, Mondays.

00:27:11.680 --> 00:27:13.519
You can't make me laugh.

00:27:16.559 --> 00:27:17.359
Or texting.

00:27:17.440 --> 00:27:18.480
You can do whatever you want behind the phone.

00:27:18.880 --> 00:27:19.920
Here's my text back.

00:27:20.160 --> 00:27:21.759
You think you have a rough Monday.

00:27:21.839 --> 00:27:23.680
Have you heard of my Monday?

00:27:26.960 --> 00:27:27.599
Which one?

00:27:29.039 --> 00:27:29.519
Away?

00:27:30.559 --> 00:27:32.559
Feels like those are friends, aren't they?

00:27:32.960 --> 00:27:35.519
Is there anything good in those two responses?

00:27:36.160 --> 00:27:36.480
No.

00:27:37.279 --> 00:27:38.400
What's a better response?

00:27:38.559 --> 00:27:39.519
Yell it out.

00:27:40.960 --> 00:27:42.480
Sorry, I'm not gonna have to do it.

00:27:43.920 --> 00:27:44.720
Tell me about it.

00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:47.440
Does it start having a hard meeting?

00:27:47.680 --> 00:27:48.319
Yeah.

00:27:48.559 --> 00:27:51.279
You can even just be like, oh, sorry.

00:27:51.440 --> 00:27:52.240
That's brutal.

00:27:52.400 --> 00:27:54.799
Or even just be like, yeah, I think you have.

00:27:55.440 --> 00:27:57.759
Gif of Garfield running out of lasagna.

00:27:59.039 --> 00:28:00.240
Okay, thanks, Bryce.

00:28:00.640 --> 00:28:01.759
Anyone else willing to try?

00:28:02.000 --> 00:28:02.480
Come on.

00:28:02.640 --> 00:28:03.359
Come on, try it.

00:28:03.519 --> 00:28:04.799
Chantel, come on out.

00:28:05.440 --> 00:28:08.960
You guys are all like, there, no one told me I had to talk in church.

00:28:09.039 --> 00:28:10.640
There's like a rule at Friend Church.

00:28:10.720 --> 00:28:12.079
I do not have to talk.

00:28:12.319 --> 00:28:14.079
Okay, Chantel, here we go.

00:28:14.160 --> 00:28:16.480
Can you throw up the next one for me, Nathaniel?

00:28:22.240 --> 00:28:22.960
Context.

00:28:23.279 --> 00:28:25.039
Partners driving in the car.

00:28:26.160 --> 00:28:27.200
Look at that.

00:28:27.359 --> 00:28:29.680
The mountains are so clear today.

00:28:30.000 --> 00:28:32.960
Okay, somebody throw out a turn against bid.

00:28:34.000 --> 00:28:35.119
They're not that tall.

00:28:37.119 --> 00:28:38.000
What mountains?

00:28:38.079 --> 00:28:38.559
There we go.

00:28:38.640 --> 00:28:39.039
Another one.

00:28:39.200 --> 00:28:39.920
What else we got?

00:28:41.279 --> 00:28:42.079
Can't see them.

00:28:43.200 --> 00:28:44.319
It's gonna rain.

00:28:45.839 --> 00:28:47.279
We were on a trip in Ireland.

00:28:47.359 --> 00:28:49.839
I was driving on the wrong side of the road, and Ellie's like, look over there.

00:28:49.920 --> 00:28:52.319
I'm like, I got a driver when to die.

00:28:53.839 --> 00:28:55.759
I feel like that's a fair one, though, right?

00:28:55.920 --> 00:28:57.680
Like, we literally were gonna die.

00:28:58.799 --> 00:28:59.759
Okay, hit me up.

00:28:59.839 --> 00:29:00.559
Go back to it again.

00:29:00.640 --> 00:29:01.680
Go back to it again.

00:29:01.920 --> 00:29:02.799
Uh, look at the mountain.

00:29:02.880 --> 00:29:03.680
The mountains are clear today.

00:29:03.759 --> 00:29:05.359
Can say it all loud for us.

00:29:05.680 --> 00:29:06.480
Look at that.

00:29:06.720 --> 00:29:08.799
The mountains are so clear today.

00:29:09.119 --> 00:29:11.279
Turn towards what's a bid?

00:29:11.519 --> 00:29:12.880
How would you turn towards that bid?

00:29:14.240 --> 00:29:14.880
Beautiful.

00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:16.000
Snow cap.

00:29:16.319 --> 00:29:17.039
Snow capped.

00:29:17.279 --> 00:29:18.640
I love when you love mountains.

00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:19.119
I love.

00:29:19.279 --> 00:29:20.880
Oh, that was gonna be mine.

00:29:21.200 --> 00:29:21.839
You know what?

00:29:22.079 --> 00:29:27.680
Turning towards somebody, even if you don't know, like if what they're into, you don't even understand.

00:29:28.079 --> 00:29:30.079
Just connecting to their excitement.

00:29:30.319 --> 00:29:31.839
I love that you get that excited.

00:29:32.000 --> 00:29:33.359
My wife is a florist.

00:29:33.599 --> 00:29:38.160
She gets more excited about flowers than any other human I've ever met.

00:29:38.480 --> 00:29:46.640
Some days I just can't get that excited about flowers, but experiencing her get that excited about flowers.

00:29:47.119 --> 00:29:49.920
I love that you get that excited about something.

00:29:50.480 --> 00:29:51.519
Beautiful.

00:29:51.839 --> 00:29:53.039
Okay, thanks, Chantel.

00:29:53.119 --> 00:29:53.920
Oh no, we got one more.

00:29:54.000 --> 00:29:54.880
I only did one with you, right?

00:29:54.960 --> 00:29:55.119
Yeah.

00:29:55.279 --> 00:29:56.079
Okay, one more.

00:29:56.240 --> 00:29:56.960
One more.

00:29:57.759 --> 00:29:58.640
Context.

00:29:58.960 --> 00:30:01.519
Teenager to parent after school.

00:30:02.400 --> 00:30:05.200
My teacher said something kind of weird today.

00:30:05.519 --> 00:30:09.119
Okay, so this is written by somebody who only has 30-year-old stepchildren.

00:30:09.759 --> 00:30:14.640
Has has more like my teacher said something kind of weird today.

00:30:16.240 --> 00:30:16.400
Okay.

00:30:16.799 --> 00:30:17.359
Sorry about that.

00:30:17.680 --> 00:30:18.640
Take it one more step further.

00:30:18.720 --> 00:30:20.559
Take it, Emily, one more step further.

00:30:20.799 --> 00:30:22.000
Does your kid ever say that?

00:30:22.079 --> 00:30:23.440
Or did they just use something like, uh?

00:30:24.880 --> 00:30:29.279
They might do that because they'd be like angry at it or irritated or disgusted at their teacher.

00:30:30.240 --> 00:30:30.559
Okay.

00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:34.880
So can we try it again with your inner disgust, Allah Emily?

00:30:36.480 --> 00:30:39.440
My teacher said something so weird today.

00:30:39.680 --> 00:30:41.279
Now let's just say this.

00:30:41.519 --> 00:30:43.839
This kid has been skipping school.

00:30:44.160 --> 00:30:46.799
This kid has been not doing their homework.

00:30:47.039 --> 00:30:48.240
You're frustrated.

00:30:48.400 --> 00:30:49.279
You're annoyed.

00:30:49.440 --> 00:30:51.119
You're sick of their excuses.

00:30:52.960 --> 00:30:55.039
How do you want to turn towards the bid?

00:30:57.599 --> 00:30:58.000
Sorry?

00:30:58.240 --> 00:30:58.880
What was weird?

00:30:59.279 --> 00:30:59.839
What was weird?

00:31:00.000 --> 00:31:00.400
Beautiful.

00:31:00.799 --> 00:31:01.839
What's the rest of the story?

00:31:02.160 --> 00:31:03.119
What's the rest of the story?

00:31:03.279 --> 00:31:03.680
Love it.

00:31:03.839 --> 00:31:04.319
Tell me more.

00:31:04.720 --> 00:31:05.680
Tell me more.

00:31:06.559 --> 00:31:07.519
Even just.

00:31:08.480 --> 00:31:09.039
Yeah.

00:31:09.279 --> 00:31:09.920
Crazy.

00:31:10.160 --> 00:31:11.359
Teachers, man.

00:31:14.079 --> 00:31:15.279
Especially mine.

00:31:16.079 --> 00:31:16.960
Thanks, Shadow.

00:31:17.119 --> 00:31:18.079
Let's give her a round of applause.

00:31:18.319 --> 00:31:19.359
Okay, I want one more.

00:31:19.519 --> 00:31:20.240
One more.

00:31:21.119 --> 00:31:21.759
Come on.

00:31:21.920 --> 00:31:24.079
Someone be brave enough to come up.

00:31:24.720 --> 00:31:26.240
If you don't, I'll call you up.

00:31:26.400 --> 00:31:26.880
There we go.

00:31:26.960 --> 00:31:28.079
Emily, thank you.

00:31:28.240 --> 00:31:28.960
I feel it.

00:31:29.039 --> 00:31:30.079
Let's do this.

00:31:31.039 --> 00:31:31.920
Okay, Emily.

00:31:32.319 --> 00:31:34.400
Okay, I gotta tell you, I was hesitant because of this.

00:31:34.640 --> 00:31:35.119
Oh, yeah.

00:31:35.440 --> 00:31:36.400
That's totally my bad.

00:31:36.640 --> 00:31:37.039
Totally my bad.

00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:41.599
Now, Emily's gonna be preaching next week on this topic, so I'm gonna do something different with Emily.

00:31:42.079 --> 00:31:44.079
You get to bid without using the screen.

00:31:44.160 --> 00:31:46.960
You get to make any bid you want, and I have to try and respond to it.

00:31:47.279 --> 00:31:47.599
Okay.

00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:48.799
Hang on.

00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:50.400
Give me a second.

00:31:53.759 --> 00:31:55.279
I'm getting nervous.

00:31:57.200 --> 00:31:59.279
Did the dogs get fed today?

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Context, have I told you that I was gonna feed the dogs today?

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No.

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I'm just walking in and I'm noticing some things about the house.

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That's why I was like, I feel like I didn't have to feed the dogs and I didn't.

00:32:18.400 --> 00:32:20.880
Anyone else feeling horribly defensive right now?

00:32:21.200 --> 00:32:24.559
Anyone else want to be like, it's not my job to feed the damn dogs?

00:32:24.799 --> 00:32:25.279
That's right.

00:32:25.440 --> 00:32:26.079
That's my point.

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Because I'm like, maybe maybe the bit isn't feel comfortable all the time.

00:32:29.359 --> 00:32:29.680
Yes.

00:32:29.839 --> 00:32:32.079
Maybe the bit isn't about me all the time.

00:32:32.400 --> 00:32:34.480
Maybe the bid is to see.

00:32:34.559 --> 00:32:37.519
So there's the thing that we let's just even say, I'm gonna add context if I may.

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Let's just say I promised you, or it's my job to feed the dog.

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My job is to feed our cat to make sure it has food in its cat dish thingy.

00:32:45.680 --> 00:32:46.799
I have now not done that.

00:32:48.319 --> 00:32:51.599
You are in the feels a little close to home.

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Anybody else can see that as a bid, not a criticism?

00:32:59.519 --> 00:33:00.559
Isn't that the shift?

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Right?

00:33:01.519 --> 00:33:10.559
Because I want to go to it's a criticism, I need to defend, which will mean I will turn against, or I'll do something like, Well, did you feed the cat?

00:33:10.799 --> 00:33:12.160
Did you fill the car with gas?

00:33:12.319 --> 00:33:13.119
Did you cook dinner?

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Did you do right?

00:33:15.599 --> 00:33:17.519
It's just a turning against.

00:33:19.119 --> 00:33:24.880
However, I can do it to not see it as a bid, not say, What let's just let's play it out.

00:33:24.960 --> 00:33:25.680
What if I didn't?

00:33:25.839 --> 00:33:27.200
Oh, I totally didn't.

00:33:27.440 --> 00:33:28.480
I am so sorry.

00:33:28.559 --> 00:33:31.920
I know you always say, like, when you come home, the dog's fed.

00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:32.960
That's totally my bad.

00:33:33.039 --> 00:33:34.160
I am I I'm on it.

00:33:34.240 --> 00:33:36.799
Let me do it right now because like I see that.

00:33:37.039 --> 00:33:38.799
How does that does that feel like I got close?

00:33:39.200 --> 00:33:40.160
Someone make it better.

00:33:40.319 --> 00:33:40.960
No, that's good.

00:33:41.119 --> 00:33:41.599
Make it better.

00:33:46.000 --> 00:33:47.440
This is all hypothetical.

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Hypothetical.

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I love that you love the dog.

00:33:50.079 --> 00:33:52.319
Okay, does anybody else have a way to make it better?

00:33:53.119 --> 00:33:53.920
Was that?

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No, everyone's even just even just like a oh, I didn't.

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And then I might even jump in with like, oh okay, I'll do it.

00:34:01.519 --> 00:34:05.200
Like it wasn't necessarily to try and get you to do it.

00:34:05.440 --> 00:34:06.319
Even body language.

00:34:06.400 --> 00:34:10.639
It could be like, oh, I totally didn't, as opposed to like Yeah.

00:34:11.760 --> 00:34:12.159
Yeah.

00:34:12.320 --> 00:34:13.119
That was a good idea.

00:34:13.280 --> 00:34:14.480
Okay, I got another, I got another one for you.

00:34:14.880 --> 00:34:15.039
Ready?

00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:16.079
Oh my god.

00:34:16.800 --> 00:34:18.000
Yours are really hard.

00:34:18.159 --> 00:34:18.960
Oh yeah.

00:34:19.840 --> 00:34:20.159
Okay.

00:34:20.559 --> 00:34:21.840
This one you're all gonna answer.

00:34:21.920 --> 00:34:22.480
Okay, hit me.

00:34:23.119 --> 00:34:24.079
No, I wanted you to do it.

00:34:24.159 --> 00:34:24.320
Okay.

00:34:24.480 --> 00:34:25.119
Okay, I'll do it.

00:34:25.360 --> 00:34:26.000
All good.

00:34:26.480 --> 00:34:27.840
I just got this new dress.

00:34:27.920 --> 00:34:28.480
What do you think?

00:34:28.559 --> 00:34:29.840
How does it look on me?

00:34:30.480 --> 00:34:32.559
Okay, this one's too easy.

00:34:33.119 --> 00:34:34.880
Damn, you look good.

00:34:35.119 --> 00:34:36.079
Damn.

00:34:36.880 --> 00:34:38.159
That would be the appropriate one.

00:34:38.320 --> 00:34:42.239
You haven't, I've noticed you haven't really done any turning away ones.

00:34:42.559 --> 00:34:44.800
That one's it's I can I can tell you're right.

00:34:44.880 --> 00:34:48.239
I'm a little bit it feels kind of gross.

00:34:48.400 --> 00:34:48.960
Let's try it again.

00:34:49.039 --> 00:34:50.000
So we're gonna new dress.

00:34:50.239 --> 00:34:51.519
Okay, do it, do it like a turn.

00:34:51.679 --> 00:34:53.280
Well, I'm giving you the turn away.

00:34:53.360 --> 00:34:53.440
Okay.

00:34:53.760 --> 00:34:54.559
He's gonna turn away.

00:34:54.639 --> 00:34:54.960
Okay.

00:34:55.199 --> 00:34:56.559
I just got this new dress.

00:34:56.639 --> 00:34:57.440
What do you think?

00:34:57.760 --> 00:34:59.920
Do you think this tie's working for me?

00:35:00.159 --> 00:35:02.800
I feel like I I maybe made it a little short.

00:35:04.000 --> 00:35:04.960
That was good.

00:35:12.800 --> 00:35:13.599
How's that for?

00:35:14.000 --> 00:35:14.480
What's that one?

00:35:14.639 --> 00:35:16.079
Turn away, turn against?

00:35:16.639 --> 00:35:17.760
Turn against.

00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:29.039
Can you see in that the number of times you probably did it?

00:35:29.840 --> 00:35:31.360
You turned against.

00:35:32.000 --> 00:35:33.599
Or you turned away.

00:35:34.639 --> 00:35:37.920
That one where who did the Ug Mondays?

00:35:38.079 --> 00:35:38.800
Who did that one?

00:35:39.360 --> 00:35:40.079
Bryce.

00:35:40.400 --> 00:35:44.800
Anyone ever have someone go, Wow, my Tuesday's certainly brutal?

00:35:46.000 --> 00:35:46.400
Right?

00:35:46.639 --> 00:35:49.920
We think the response is, oh, they're sharing.

00:35:50.079 --> 00:35:51.519
I should share back.

00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:54.800
But what you did is you didn't see their bid.

00:35:54.880 --> 00:35:59.599
You just played off them and ignored it and went off on your own tangent.

00:36:02.559 --> 00:36:10.079
Can you see now how this stuff impacts relationships?

00:36:12.559 --> 00:36:17.440
How often we've done it where we turned away, we turned against.

00:36:19.840 --> 00:36:21.199
But the details were wrong.

00:36:21.360 --> 00:36:23.039
It doesn't count then, right?

00:36:25.199 --> 00:36:29.760
And yet that's getting stuck in their long-term memory.

00:36:31.840 --> 00:36:37.599
And their primitives in their brain are looking at us going, you do not see me.

00:36:40.559 --> 00:36:43.119
That's what the Gotmans can watch.

00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:50.239
And say, you will not be together in four years.

00:36:54.639 --> 00:37:04.960
The other side of this is this when you turn towards, you will be amazed at how much that impacts your relationships.

00:37:05.280 --> 00:37:10.159
With your kid, kids make noise so that there it's a bid.

00:37:10.960 --> 00:37:12.239
We do the same thing.

00:37:13.280 --> 00:37:13.599
Right?

00:37:13.679 --> 00:37:14.880
It's a bid.

00:37:15.599 --> 00:37:17.599
It's not don't be huffy.

00:37:18.800 --> 00:37:19.920
It's a bid.

00:37:21.360 --> 00:37:29.199
Walking in in a new outfit, especially little kids, you know, is there at that age where they're transitioning away from my parents dressed me to I'm gonna dress myself?

00:37:29.360 --> 00:37:30.639
That's a bid.

00:37:31.039 --> 00:37:32.800
How dare you wear that?

00:37:34.559 --> 00:37:39.360
We walk through our world and we just see now I can see bids everywhere.

00:37:39.840 --> 00:37:44.079
And the question we have to ask is, do we want to turn against them?

00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:48.880
Do we want to do that horrible damage of turning away?

00:37:51.519 --> 00:38:01.840
In an age of cell phones and TikTok and busyness, that turning away one is easy.

00:38:04.400 --> 00:38:07.199
It's too easy to just be focused here, isn't it?

00:38:11.920 --> 00:38:26.320
May we be a community that is conscious, that is awake, that sees the bids coming towards us and chooses to turn towards them.

00:38:26.639 --> 00:38:29.119
Unless the person's evil, then I feel like we can turn against them.

00:38:29.199 --> 00:38:29.679
Does that work?

00:38:29.840 --> 00:38:30.480
Is that a thing?

00:38:30.639 --> 00:38:32.480
No, you're right, Trevor.

00:38:32.639 --> 00:38:34.639
Damn the Christian story.

00:38:36.079 --> 00:38:42.559
May we be a community that sees the bid and turns towards them.

00:38:42.719 --> 00:38:56.159
If you have been, like me, unskillful, if you have a pattern of turning against and turning away with someone that matters to you, here's what I want you to do this afternoon.

00:38:57.440 --> 00:38:58.800
Apologize.

00:39:02.400 --> 00:39:04.000
I am so sorry.

00:39:06.880 --> 00:39:11.519
I am so sorry I turned away from you all those times.

00:39:15.119 --> 00:39:16.320
That's an excuse.

00:39:17.119 --> 00:39:19.039
I am so sorry.

00:39:23.360 --> 00:39:32.880
May we be a community who builds incredibly healthy relationships here and with everybody else in our life.

00:39:33.760 --> 00:39:36.000
I'm gonna skip the amen and just go to hell yeah.

00:39:36.079 --> 00:39:36.719
Hell yeah?

00:39:37.360 --> 00:39:38.079
Thanks everyone.

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Have a great week.

00:39:38.800 --> 00:39:41.199
Thanks to everyone who was able to come up on the mic.
