BMP (Buffalo Music Players) Podcast
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BMP (Buffalo Music Players) BREAKING EPISODE: The Supermodel
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Hi listeners! Pardon the interruption, but we have a BREAKING EPISODE with The Supermodel, aka Tallulah Gordon. She'll be playing a show with another BMP guest Jade Marciniak, aka Rattlesnake Jake, at Avenir Cine (1032 Niagara St.) on Friday, March 13. Doors at 7 p.m.
On the pod, Tallulah talked about her project "Supermodel" — which is her final thesis for school — as well as her many talents, which include singer-songwriting, photography and acting.
The show is hosted by Sapphic Star Films and funds will go to support their next production, “Blessed Are the Unclean.”
Artist Corner:
Goodbye Metro
https://goodbyemetro.bandcamp
March 21 at Milkie’s
April 16 at Area 54
Captain Tom
March 12 acoustic jam Buffalo Distillery 6:30-8:30 p.m.
March 14 The Terrace at Delaware Park pierogi Fest
March 14 Pottersfields Pub 7:30-10:30 p.m.
March 15 Buffalo Irish Center 6-8 p.m.
March 17 Buffalo Irish Center 5:30-8:30 p.m.
March 20 Banshee Irish Pub 8-11 p.m.
March 22 Variety Club Telethon 2-3 p.m.
March 26 Polka Buzz Polish Falcons 7 p.m.
March 28 Kielbasa Contest Potts Banquet 12-2 p.m.
March 28 Buffalo Irish Center with Tyler, Sally and Tom 7-10 p.m.
Justin Karcher
https://www.justinkarcherauthor.com
As of January, Karcher’s work has appeared in dodoeraser.org, electric-pink.org, underscoremag.com, somewords.boards.net, and English.many.edu/blueearth
Upcoming work to be published in bulbregion.com, theargyllitmag.com, scaffolding.com, Hawkeyes.com, thezineoffrankenstein.weebly.com, larotuntdereview.substack.com
And
The Unauthorized Jim’s Steakout Musical Workshop at Alleyway Theatre in May 2026.
Sky Vance
https://www.skyvance.art
Live on Five at Buffalo Art Studio:
Opening March 27, Auction April 18
Buffalo Creative Workshop
https://www.buffalocreativeworkshop.com/
March 13 Zine Making Class 5:30 p.m.
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Want to get in touch? email BMPpodandblog@outlook.com
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SPEAKER_03Hello, listeners. This is the BMP Podcast. My name is Benjamin Joe. And I am Max. And with us is a stunning guest. Their name is Tolula Gordon, and they are a singer, uh songwriter?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, uh singer, songwriter, photographer, filmmaker.
SPEAKER_03All around Buffalo and just in general. Yeah. Awesome. Um, would you like to describe yourself a little bit?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, um, so I'm Talula. I also uh for like music have been going by Supermodel recently. Um, but I've been in the Buffalo arts scene professionally uh for a few years now. I started um above state doing photography. I started exhibiting in 2023 at Buffalo Art Studio was my first exhibit. And since then I think I've done like 17 exhibits, and that was all photography. I've I've been I've been stressing myself out, but I think it was worth it.
SPEAKER_03How many how many in a year would you say like? Like we're all 17 in a year.
SPEAKER_002023? I could go in my notes and count them all.
SPEAKER_03Oh, that's all right at the time.
SPEAKER_00But 2023, I think, uh maybe maybe seven-ish. That's a lot. And then 24 was I think that was like 10 exhibits or something a year. It was a lot. Um so 2025, I was like, I'm not doing any exhibits. I wanted to like focus on something different because I felt like I don't know. I've always done a bunch of different art forms since I was like a kid. I've never not been doing art. Like I went to performing arts for high school, so I've always been doing something like I started with dance and music, and then I went into theater and was doing acting for a really long time, and then was like putting stuff on SoundCloud, like when I was like in high school and stuff. But I it was I wasn't really taking it seriously.
SPEAKER_03Um were you a rapper? Are you a soundcloud?
SPEAKER_00No, no, no, no, no, no, no, not at all. But um, I think like sometimes I can only say so much with a certain kind of art form, so I like to bounce around a lot, and so I decided like I didn't want um to do any exhibits, and I just wanted to focus on film and music last year. And so I came out with a short film with the Birchfield Penny last year called Into Dust, which was actually co-edited by Kayla here. Um, and I did the soundtrack for that as well. So that was like my first like public release. And then the one exhibit I chose to do was the supermodel exhibit when I released the supermodel EP in November. So yeah, I've been taking kind of a break from photo and focusing more on music.
SPEAKER_03I hear that. I hear that. Um, what got you into the creative arts, so to speak, um, as a young child?
SPEAKER_00Like uh Yeah, I don't think I had a choice.
SPEAKER_03No, no. Oh, were your parents like like ballet teachers or something like that?
SPEAKER_00Well, my my mom she started as a dancer when she was a kid and ran away from home and went to New York City to dance. And then she like got into music later on in life when she was older. And my dad has been a musician since he was a kid. He went to school for it. Um, and he met my mom in New York while he was playing professionally for a bunch of different dance companies and stuff. Um so like and they've always both been entrepreneurs and like yeah, they've never like neither of them have liked having a boss. So I think I was kind of like fated to be like to do art and to do it by myself. That's like in your blood, yeah. Yeah, like and um my stepfamily is also very creative. I don't know if you might be familiar with um the Melldrum family. Um oh Mike. Yes, yeah, um Michael's kids are my step siblings after we passed um our parents are together, yeah. Yeah. Um so and they're both so like artistic. His kids are so artistic, and their mom, too.
SPEAKER_03I've heard him play over at the uh at Nietzsche's Way Pack. Really?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, Xander's in the movies now too.
SPEAKER_03Oh, is he really? Yeah, yeah. Oh wow.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you should you should get them on. They're like, I would love that.
SPEAKER_02We're interviewing the lead singer later this week. Oh, really?
SPEAKER_00We went I went to elementary school with her. Oh yeah, it's like yeah, everyone here is connected.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, that's the beauty of Buffalo. You've seen a little bit of the world outside Buffalo. You said you went to Brooklyn College off mic a little while ago.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I uh graduated in 2019 and then I went to Brooklyn College. I like didn't get I auditioned to a lot of different places for acting and didn't get in anywhere because my grades were really, really bad. I was like, I was a straight like D student for like most of my life. Um and so I went to graduated at least I graduated. I went to Brooklyn College for like it was like an acting BA, like it wasn't the official like acting program that I wanted. And it was there that I realized that I really didn't want to do acting at that point in my life anyway.
SPEAKER_03That's why they say you should try things early. Exactly. Make all your mistakes as soon as possible.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, because I was I was a theater major for seven years in like middle and high school when I went to performing arts, and the environment at performing arts is very different than the New York theater environment. Because performing arts is just like, in my opinion, like a lot of very normal kids who like are very, very talented but are not absurdly big-headed. Oh, and then by the time they get uh Well, it's it's just different people from different places in New York. Like I've met a lot of um I don't know. I think there's a difference between suburban theater kids and like kids from performing arts.
SPEAKER_03And I just shout out to performance arts.
SPEAKER_02It's uh different levels of intensity with theater kids.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and I was like, you know, the Rachel Barry archetype of Glea. I wasn't impressed. So um I dropped out of Brooklyn College like three different times because it got impacted by COVID and I couldn't learn online, and I just gave up. I kept giving up. And so I moved back to Buffalo, I transferred to Buff State, and I just I started doing the individualized studies program there.
SPEAKER_02Oh, that's what I graduated with.
SPEAKER_00I yeah, I heard you say that on the podcast actually. Um and yeah, I was doing something similar to you where I studied film, media, music stuff.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, but you made it useful. I I this part is useful.
SPEAKER_00I like I knew that that was the only time that I was gonna have access to those resources. Yeah. Um I don't know when I'll be able to touch like those kinds of cameras and stuff again. And like I was I knew that like this is when I can get it for free, and this is when I should be building my resume, doing like a bunch of different kinds of things because now is when I can afford to do it.
SPEAKER_03That's smart, yeah.
SPEAKER_00So I uh graduated with a Bachelor of Science in Individualized Studies, and my focus was filmmaking, um, photography, and then my final project was make a pop EP.
SPEAKER_05Oh, well, that's oh no.
SPEAKER_03Is that what supermodel is? Yeah, supermodel is actually my senior thesis. Oh that's that's cool. That's creative. It's a really good uh EP. I I had a lot of freedom. Do you listen to the EP? Of course I listen to the EP. I'm just wondering.
SPEAKER_00No, he's been a like day one supporter.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_03It's very cool. Uh well, tell but tell us about the EP, tell us about the film, and they both are really great pieces of art.
SPEAKER_02Well, actually, one question before you start. Because I was just wondering, in a world with like filters where everyone kind of has access to glamour, what is like what is your interpretation of a supermodel where like everyone is a model pretty much nowadays?
SPEAKER_00Hmm. Um for me, it was like there's oh my god, I could go, I could go maybe an hour into it. So I won't be able to do that. Just make it like 45 minutes. It's like for me, there's and a lot of even though I identify as non-binary, like supermodels a drag persona for me. So she's a girl, she's like a this robot girl, and um growing up as a woman or people perceiving you that way, yeah, you kind of like develop this um like third person perspective of yourself that you're constantly thinking about. And so even when like I I think like every girl I know, and like including myself in this, like when we were younger and we were crying, like we'd take a selfie or something. And I think there's like this really interesting, like self-sadistic quality that I think like Snapchat filters and stuff like that emphasize is like I want to be pretty even when I cry. I need to be, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, just like on all the time. Yeah, presentable.
SPEAKER_00So it's it's like I think having a robot was like the kind of like the most extreme I could go with that concept. And it was also um it was a collaborative process. I don't know if you guys know Bibi Delure, who she opened for my show at Bika, and she she actually produced Cutie with me.
SPEAKER_01Gotcha.
SPEAKER_00Um and she's oh my gosh, like she's such a such a great local artist. And she had a show come out at Hall Walls earlier this year called Please Miss Robot. Yeah, yeah. Yes. Um, and that was also like such a her process like work on that was like such a big inspiration as well, just kind of like deconstructing like a worker's body and a woman's body and its purpose to serve while also serving glamour. Yeah you know.
SPEAKER_02Did you guys like did you guys work together and like come up with the idea of like robots, or did you guys kind of came up with that separately from each other?
SPEAKER_00It was actually it was so cute. Because I was I was hanging out with her one day. Um we were talking about I think I was talking to her about this project actually. And she brought up that she was planning the same basically the same thing. Like we or she had been talking to me already, wanting to me do cinematography for a project for her. And so literally just like the same day when we were hanging out and we were telling each other about these projects, they happened to have kind of like a very similar thesis. So like it was like just kind of serendipitous that like neither one of us really like gave the other like the idea we both like like convergent evolution, like we both like we're going through things that got us to a very similar mindset. Yeah, so I thought it was really beautiful. And I like she's like such an inspiration to me. She's diva, and so like great minds think alike.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, do you guys like finish each other's sentences and stuff pretty much?
SPEAKER_00No, no, no. She's just I think she's very wise. She's a little bit older than me, too. And she also knew my siblings, so like she really kind of just like gives Exister.
SPEAKER_03Wow, that sounds like a great relationship. Shout out to it.
SPEAKER_00She's one of like there's so many truly, truly like talented artists here. I really look forward to it. Oh, for sure. Yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_03Um, how do you feel like your your your products have been um taken? Uh you know, photography, uh, music, film, um, by the Buffalo community. Um they wouldn't come up to you and say, like, I really loved all your stuff, like, you know, the point of it being almost scary, how much they like it.
SPEAKER_00Actually, yeah.
SPEAKER_03A little bit.
SPEAKER_00Like, I think because Buffalo's small, it gets like I appreciate, I think especially when it's like girls, when they come up to me, I uh feel a little safer about it. Um and I've like I've had some really cute like interactions with people, but I think like I think I just need some men to be a little mindful um about like coming up to me and speaking to me if I don't know you. And that's just it's definitely bias, it's definitely gender bias that I have, but you know, I think like it's kind of like the thesis of the project is that like my body is kind of expected to be four men, and I don't want them to feel that way, yeah. But like I've never well, I did have a stalker last year, also, so that's like part of it. Yeah, um so like yeah, I think it's cute when people come up to me and they're like polite. Um I don't really have a problem with it, just you know, be mindful. Also, like what's the space that we're in? If it's like a party, if it's a club, like a quick like hey, is like cool. But like, you know, if I'm like alone, yeah, you know, you know, but but yeah, I don't mind it.
SPEAKER_03I feel like you've gone through some difficulties with um with your the way that you you work yourself into the world. Um I I don't know, maybe just like being more open as an artist, you're you know, as artists, we're always trying to kind of hustle like our projects and figure out what we want to go and do and and also take an input from the surrounding world. Um have you ever have you ever had felt like you have to go take yourself away from the world, like maybe because of like some of these themes that like you discussed in Supermodel?
SPEAKER_00Uh it depends where I am. I try I try um not to I feel like like every artist works their own way, but I feel like I see a lot of artists purposefully kind of separate themselves or isolate themselves to create a piece of art, which like maybe for their piece of art, that's fine. But if I'm making a project that's supposed to be reflective, I kind of feel the need to like ingest a lot of brain rot. You know, because that's like what is like now, you know, like that's if everyone's a product of their society and I'm choosing not to engage with the society, then like, you know, like what information do I actually have?
SPEAKER_02What brain rotation do you digest? Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Instagram reels. You know, things are stupid. I really like um like some reality shows. Reality shows are actually really amazing. I've watched a lot of Mormon Wives, The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. Oh, okay. Don't know if you've seen it. No, if that's your fuel, that's your fuel. No, it's my fuel because these women are like so interesting. And like Loki likes her some like inspiration because it's just very that show is very interesting, specifically to watch women who are like very indoctrinated into this like society like come to their senses. Yeah, it's really interesting to be able to do that.
SPEAKER_03Oh, do they do they like break out of the stuff?
SPEAKER_00Some of them do, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Whoa, that must be like the matrix or something. It's really interesting.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and they're talking about some really taboo topics that like I was like, warm in's get down like that. But but it's like I don't know, I don't know. It's kind of cool to see, and they're all the breadwinners of their families too, which I think is cool. But um also things like Love Island were really informative for this project as well. I mean, like literally like the every season of Love Island starts out with girls lining up in a row and guys picking which one they want. So that was also like very informative for this project. And it's like informative. I think people think of stuff like that as like trash TV. Um, I've known a lot of artists who like curate the media that they ingest. Yeah. But I just don't think it's smart because you're closing yourself off to something that honestly could be like really interesting.
SPEAKER_02Everybody needs carbs, so it's not junk food.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, even when it comes to music, like I know some people say, like, oh, I listen to everything, but no, like truly, like I will go back to those Victoria's soundtracks and listen to them. It's campy, but like, you know, like it's everything.
SPEAKER_03I know that's true. That's really cool. Your your voice is really good, by the way. Um now, uh how do you come up with your lyrics? Like, what is where where does that inspiration come from?
SPEAKER_00Depends. I used to, when I was younger, I used to be really honest and like to a point where I felt like it was kind of like transparent? Yeah, like like I was about a boy, yeah, and I'm gonna release him. I hope he hears it. And that was like not healthy because I used to like it was all my SoundCloud music, and it was just kind of like wallowing.
SPEAKER_03Um you gotta start somewhere.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, exactly. Like I had to learn how to write, and that was like how I learned how to write was just being very, very brutally honest. And then for this project specifically, I was trying to lean into lying because I think I can't remember who I was hearing talk about this. It might have been Billy Eilish, honestly. But like it's it's fun to lie, and since this is a character that I'm playing, I'm like, I really got to create like a story, but it's based on a lot of my actual feelings, but it's very, very heightened. So like I think like Keychain is like a good example.
SPEAKER_03I love keychain, by the way. Thank you. That video is awesome.
SPEAKER_00Thank you. That was like an insane shoot. Shout out, um, my producer Robin Lazara, who's actually Rattlesnake Jake's Jade's best friend. Oh, really? Wow, that was the connection. Yeah, literally, everyone is connected here. Um get out the whiteboard and yarn. Yeah, no, it was like it was it was an amazing shoot, but that song came from um like I had a crush that I shouldn't have. That I knew that like if I engaged with it, it would have been really uh bad for me. So I wrote a song pretending that I did, basically, kind of to get it out of my system.
SPEAKER_02Oh, yeah, that's a healthy way to go about it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah. Like, and I think it kind of made me face it too, because it's definitely it's a toxic, it's a pretty toxic song. It's like yarny and unhealthy. And I think writing it made me realize that you know, if I act on those behaviors, it's not gonna end well for me. So a lot, it's made up, but it's made up like based off of how I was feeling. And all the songwriting processes are different too. Sometimes, like, sometimes I'll come up with a beat first, sometimes I'll have like a really good idea for a lyric and then build it around that. It just kind of like depends, yeah, where my heart is.
SPEAKER_02What made you want to go towards like more of like a hybrid pop kind of feel for this project?
SPEAKER_00Um, well, I start again when I first started music back when I was in like in high school, I played the piano. Yeah, but I only like I learn by ear, so I can't read shoot music, and it's really like with logic and stuff like that, it's really easy to transfer knowledge of piano to like any kind of like um you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_02I didn't know that. Yeah, the MIDI keyboards.
SPEAKER_00Exactly. Yeah, oh excuse me. Um it's like so it's so much easier, and so I always loved the kind of bubblegum pop stuff of the early 2000s, like early early Brittany, honestly, Hannah Montana, you know, and then Hannah Montana has a lot of stars, yeah, and like a lot of the cute like pop punky stuff too. And I think um also growing up like I was very into like scene um kind of styles and aesthetics and stuff, which is kind of a very like dubstepy genre. Um so I think like I I just always love a good I love a good synth. I love putting an ARP on a drum. Like there's just so much you can play with. And I also like I'm I used to sing more professionally when I was younger and I had vocal training, but I don't have vocal training anymore.
SPEAKER_02So No, that's not true. You can't never lose it. It's always a lot of fun.
SPEAKER_00Well, yeah, it's there. I just it I haven't trained it. So with um a more kind of like electronic pop genre, like auto-tune is more acceptable as an instrument. Yeah, and I think it helps like tie the tracks together, especially. So I think yeah, hyper pop is definitely kind of like I think helped make autotune a little more socially acceptable.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah. Thank God because there's a lot of musicians out there who just don't have the pipe of say tune card or whatever.
SPEAKER_00And I I like I love auto tune. I really like the way that it sounds.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I've heard it on a few of our artists who've been on here, and they've and they're it's cool. It's it's interesting.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Hey, so uh which one of your tracks would you like to uh play for our listeners today? Or uh we'll hear a clip of it.
SPEAKER_00Uh I think probably boomerang is the boomerang people usually like the most, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Alright, well let's just listen to boomerang.
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SPEAKER_00I came out with a short film called Into Dust last year that was co-written by me and the director, Angel Barber. Um, but the film itself I had been developing since 2021. I was still living in Brooklyn when I started working on the story.
SPEAKER_05Oh, cool.
SPEAKER_00Um and then I like I hadn't directed before. Um so I brought Angel on as a director, and we kind of like changed the script a bit to make it like lighter, a bit more of like a comedy. Which like I don't know. I think now I might not have gone that direction, but I think like for like my first short film like that, I think it helped.
SPEAKER_02Was it originally darker or something?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I think originally it was going in like on like a Donnie Darko route. Oh, yeah. Which I love Donnie Darko, but I also do think that that's like the the like sand trap for filmmakers, like early filmmakers, like college filmmakers, is the the emo brooding piece, and I didn't wanna yeah, I didn't want to fall into the trap.
SPEAKER_02I thought it was the tone poem.
SPEAKER_00The wait what?
SPEAKER_02The tone poem, you know, when you like make a movie and it's just like just people just hogging over nothing. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that's oh, I've seen my fair share. But yeah, there is uh I uh we like changed some of the script, um wrote it together, and I executive produced it, I was director of photography, I uh co-edited uh with Kayla. Shout out Kayla Metherell and then I did the soundtrack. And that um I started the soundtrack when I first started writing the script in like 2022. Um because like I don't know, I can it it seems like I can't write without like when I'm writing a script, I know what I want to see on screen and I know what I want to hear. So I get really itching to start the soundtrack. And so I started the soundtrack in like 2022, and so many change things like changed from from then, but the basic ideas were the same. And I just like I I hadn't soundtracked before. I was so used to being personal and not used to writing about characters, so it was kind of a challenge, but um I just I went into it wanting to be as authentic to the story as possible.
SPEAKER_03That's very cool. Uh, you were mentioning off mic, uh we know a lot of the same people. Um you listen to the pod and started some of our guests, and you were like, oh hey, I know that person already. Like talk a little bit about that uh community, that scene that we have here in Buffalo.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, um, I was saying I know Rattlesnake Jake, known as Jade, and I know um Tylia, who was actually in Into Dust. Um that was how we met was she wanted to be a background actor, and I've seen her like everywhere. She is everywhere. Yes, she's a boss, like she's such a sweetheart, and like I feel like I never see her without like a smile on her face. Like very two very good people that you guys that I know that you guys have had on here. Um I just think like Buffalo artists really I think they're swag stolen a lot, I think. And I think that there's like a lot of really, really, really talented artists who haven't had the resources to get out there. And like going to performing arts, like it was everywhere of like these kids who could out sing like Sabrina Carpenter, you know, like kids with like powerhouse voices who just like couldn't afford the train in New York to audition or something, or couldn't afford the application fee. And like it's so I don't know. I think the arts are critically underfunded. They are though. Yeah. Oh they are yeah, and I I I don't know. I just think the talent here is overflowing, but I I the scene here is so like diverse too in like the type of music. I think Buffalo feels most known for its punk scene, which my brother's kind of in the punk scene and stuff, but the kind of like electronic pop scene starting to go to. I don't know if you know like Opalite. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, I just turned my flashlight on. Her stuff is really cool, and she does a lot of stuff with Elmwood operas. Shout out to Both of them. Yeah, yeah, really cool people. Um and the DJ scene here is like pretty epic. I love like DJ, IYK, YK. Um, BB Delores a DJ, of course, Little Italy. Yeah, fantastic DJ. Yeah, William Paul. Like, I just I don't know, I think um there's just so Dirty Wi-Fi too. So Dirty Wi-Fi. Such a good DJ. Yeah, there's so many genuinely like very talented, very sweet people here that I just kind of wish that we had a little bit more money to go around. Because I think it's almost kind of futile here to work as an artist, you know?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I can see I can see it. I can see that. Um yeah, that reminds me. I saw the uh the supermodel, the song was done with Neft Nef Nef Nefth.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, Daniel. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I had such good collaborations. Daniel was on it, Soy Fruit, love Soy Fruit. Soy Fruit, yeah. So fun. They opened the show, um, they were like another one of the openers for the show at Bika, and like had the whole crowd sing along. It was it was so awesome. But yeah, working with Neff was really cool. Um I had known him-ish from Freak the Mighty.
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_00Which I don't know if they're like still together, if they're kind of like unofficially, but I think they disbanded school, yeah. Yeah, but I knew of like Freak the Mighty, and we actually used one of their songs, Lol, in Into Dust. We got permission from him. Cool. So that's how we connected. Which also that song is literally like one of my favorite songs, which is like, you know, I don't know. I don't think a lot of people usually say that one of their favorite artists is local, or one of their favorite songs is local, but like truly. They do hear it. We force it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And like even like my favorite drag artist is local. Um Tish You Wish. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, like so. Yeah, I don't know. There's like a it's like a hidden what's it called? People say, what did people say? Don't let Buffalo not become a secret or something like that. Keep Buffalo secret, is what they say. But I say let's not keep Buffalo secret because I really feel like we need some income. We need these talents to really be able to like eat off their work.
SPEAKER_03Real talk.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah. Yeah, which is how how do you think we could um bring some more money into the city for the musicians?
SPEAKER_03Well not just musicians, like visual artists as well. Photography could use a little bummer.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I think it's hard right now because so many federal grants were cut that would provide a lot of funding. I mean, I know CEPA's grants got fun cut. Um I think I don't know what ASI is offering this year, but I know a lot of arts grants just aren't available anymore. So ASI. Yeah, shout out ASI, they're they're really awesome as well. But like this might be stupid. I might be wrong, but like I feel like I feel like when a city wins the Super Bowl, they get a lot of tourism. That's what I've been to. Yeah. And like I don't think people usually correlate like sports and art, but definitely correlate tourism and art. And I like unfortunately think that if we had gotten to the Super Bowl or won, like we would have had a lot more money. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I think at this point though, it's uh greater chance that one of us will become a superstar before Bills won the Super Bowl.
SPEAKER_00I'm probably like more likely to win a million dollars.
SPEAKER_02Go get your scratch off right as soon as you win the bowl.
SPEAKER_03Well, this has been a great talk. Um thank you for coming on the show.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, thank you for having me.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, pleasure having you guys. And um, I guess that that's the end of the show. Um, thank you, Buffalo Music Player listeners. This is the end of the episode. Hope to see you in the next one.
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