BMP (Buffalo Music Players) Episode 41: Shak X

Shak X came on the BMP podcast to talk about his life as a professional wrestler in Buffalo. It's a crazy high, he said.

Shak has been the good guy, the bad guy and everything in between. Earlier in another life he was also a musician.

Take a listen to this episode and learn about wrestling and what it meant to grow up in Buffalo's downtown. It's about having a tough skin and following your dream.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:29

To be quite honest, I'm gonna look in there as I come on wrong. No, for the park, I'm not designed um too pretty dumb. If the rocking can do it, I sure can. I've never fought the store, so I've got the upper hand. If the rogue can do it, I sure can. I've never fought the store, so I've got the upper hand.

unknown 1:06

It's the B and B pocket. It's the B and B pocket.

SPEAKER_03 1:20

This just then, a double scoop of bad news. Man, life just isn't letting up. I feel like the walls are closing in, and I don't have a way to stop it. I wish there was somewhere I could go. Some place where I could just get away from everything. And just be creative.

SPEAKER_02 1:42

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SPEAKER_03 2:05

Wow, that sounds great. I'll check it out.

SPEAKER_02 2:08

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SPEAKER_01 2:27

Hello listeners. This is a BMP podcast. I'm Benjamin Joe. And I am X. And with us today is a uh it's the very first uh wrestler that we've had in our studio. Um he's pretty cool. He seems like a nice guy. He's got threads all over his uh over his head. He's uh sounds really interesting. Would you like to introduce yourself? Yeah, how you doing? My name is Shaq X. Uh or sure for Shackhamania X. You're cool. Um on your Instagram, you can say big unc. That's why I always thought of you. I was like, oh, he's like an uncle or something.

SPEAKER_00 2:59

Yeah. Oh, I I go by like a lot of mini names of uh so my in-ring name is Shaq X, but my personas or like my uh my uh don't give him a variety of actually nicknames, which Headhunter Shaq X, Big Uncle Shaq X, you know, stuff like that.

SPEAKER_01 3:20

Yeah, I mean I gotta go and tell you, I think it's very cool that you're into wrestling. I was unaware there was a wrestling world here in Buffalo, and now you just kind of open my eyes to it. Can you tell me a little bit about what it's like uh doing that kind of performance, that like that kind of like art of wrestling, like in front of an audience or anything like that?

SPEAKER_00 3:37

Honestly, man, it's such a such a crazy high sometimes doing it in front of a live audience that most of the times or for a few matches I've blacked out. Or just so much adrenaline? Yeah, like drunk? Not not like black out drunk, just like as soon as I step out from that curtain, I'm just a different person. Yeah, the persona takes over. Yes, yes, and I feel like every wrestler can relate to that. Like once you step from behind that curtain, you are no longer your actual person, your actual name who you go by, or your government. You are that persona for however long you're in that ring for. It would just five minutes, eight to ten minutes, twenty minutes, thirty minutes, you are that person for the next damn near two hours through there. That's how long we usually run shows for. Wow because even when you step from behind that curtain, you have to be that persona in front of fans who come up to you who want autographs, who want pictures, who want merchandise and stuff like that. So you have to be that person for two hours. So yeah, like my name is Shaq or Shaquille. Yeah, but when I step into that ring, it's Shaq X.

SPEAKER_03 4:50

Gotcha. Wow. Who is that person for you that like got you into it? That it was like the persona that was like, damn, I want to be that persona.

SPEAKER_00 4:58

Or have my own persona because of so when it comes to like having a favorite wrestler or a favorite persona, I per se don't usually have a favorite wrestler or a favorite persona. I just love the art form of pro wrestling, and I just love every character and what every character has to offer. I yeah, I take many elements from um different wrestlers, like for example, like uh I'm I'm a I was a huge fan of Triple H coming up. I was a huge fan of RVD, uh John Cena, obviously, you know, Batista, Ken Shenrock, you know, being a 90s kid and everything like that. So I was fans of those type of wrestlers. That's cool.

SPEAKER_01 5:37

Is there that thing where you got the hero and the hand and the and the uh the villain? Yeah thing. Like what do you what do you where do you fall in that right now?

SPEAKER_00 5:43

Are you the hero maybe the baby phase of the uh so currently um currently in Grapple Pro, I am currently a face, which is the good guy. Yeah, yeah. But I I've worked heel at other promotions, like for example, uh I worked the bad guy character out in Pennsylvania. Yeah. Nice. And um both positions are fun.

SPEAKER_01 6:03

I bet that's what I'm gonna ask. Like it's being a heel function, I think it would be like hilarious.

SPEAKER_00 6:07

Like it's absolutely hilarious. Like, um, so I'm working a show in Pennsylvania. Uh we're rapping towards the end of the match, and I hit the guy with my finisher move, but before I hit the guy with my finisher move, I yell out, you know, it's over, bitch. And then like I hear like a mother in the crowd go, oh my god, he said the B-word, and uh he don't don't say that there's kids there, and then yeah, I I get it, and everything like that. And just like being a naturally not naturally, but being a uh an unlikable person because my natural self is uh very likable. Like I'm not I'm not a very confrontational person. Yeah, I don't really get into like a lot of fights with people and stuff like that, but like when I'm in that hill persona, like I try to make myself as as unlikable or or or dishated as possible. That's the job. Yeah, that's what you're supposed to do.

SPEAKER_01 6:58

Yeah, and how'd you get into wrestling? Like, and uh yeah, I mean yeah, how'd you get into wrestling?

SPEAKER_00 7:03

I mean so wrestling is uh a career path that I always wanted to do. I just didn't know how to go about it. I wanted to wrestle since I'm I was 19 years old. I'm 31 now. I just turned 31 in February last month. Happy birthday. Uh thank you. Appreciate y'all, appreciate y'all. Uh I wanted to wrestle since I was 19, but just like you said earlier, you you wouldn't have known that the uh uh a school for wrestlers existed in Buffalo, which it didn't at the time where I wanted to be a wrestler. The closest school they had by Buffalo was in Canada, which is if you're familiar with the art form of professional wrestling, you know that Canada's there near the home for many pro wrestlers and stuff like that, like Brad Hart, uh Edge, Chris Jericho. So that was the closest, that was the closest school by me. And at the time they were charging like $2,000 for a class. A 19-year-old in college at the time, I I didn't have that money. Yeah. So it wasn't until like the pandemic uh which had to discover uh Grapple Pro. And Grapple Pro had first opened their doors around 2017. And again, I didn't sc I didn't discover them until 2020, which is COVID. And then that was a thing. So I didn't actually get to train with them until like 2023. You weren't like doing like wrestling moves over Zoom and stuff? Um, so like at the age of 19 and 20, I was going to uh Best Fitness. Okay, gotcha. And I was taking like personal training classes uh for more amateur wrestling. Yeah. Because I wanted to like go to college to do amateur wrestling in college and stuff like that. But you know, it just got too expensive for me. So I eventually like put that to the side. Wrestling became a side thing that I wanted to pursue. But you could see elements that I wanted to pursue wrestling just by off my my my um rap my rap name, my old school, my old rap name. Um right, yeah. You were the music before you did wrestling. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, my rap name was Shackamania X. And like that's short for WrestleMania or Hokomania, however you want to put it. But yeah, that was my rap name for a minute now, and you can see the influence in that.

SPEAKER_01 9:14

Oh, I I forgot. Um, yeah, Hulk Hogan like died like uh like just early like earlier this year, right? I think it was like last year he died. Last year, like very late in the year. What do you think about that? I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 9:26

Like Hulk Hogan said many disparaging things about Did he really? I didn't know that. Yeah, he didn't know that he did?

SPEAKER_01 9:36

Oh well, I thought that I felt I what I knew about him was that his hair looked like Chinese hair. I don't and I don't know if you wanted to bring that negative energy to your own. No, I don't. I don't.

SPEAKER_00 9:45

Yeah, so all I'll all I'll say is I'll keep it at this. He said some very disparaging things about black people, and um I'm just leaving at that. Yeah, screw him. Fuck it.

SPEAKER_01 9:59

Gotcha. Well, that's cool. So what in your rap name? Um uh Shakomania?

SPEAKER_03 10:07

Yeah. That's cool.

SPEAKER_00 10:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 10:08

Do you find that there's a lot of like um similarities between like the rap and the uh wrestling world where like you know you gotta put on that persona and you gotta kind of boast and kind of brag about it, you know, just make yourself interesting. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:21

Rap, uh hip-hop and rap music and professional wrestling go hand in hand. It's like I I was just having this conversation with a friend um the other day because he was asking about my rap career and stuff like that. And I said they can't they're kind of similar. The only difference is, and especially if you're an independent hip-hop artist, um in rap and music, you sacrifice your wallet. If you want professional stuff done, you're gonna be broke most of the time. You know, because if like if you don't like also have the skills to create it yourself, you're gonna pay a lot of people to do everything. Like, you pay people to mix and master your music, you pay for cover art, you pay for um distribution, uh, you pay for like uh merchandise for your shows and everything like that. You pay for so many things in hip-hop when you're an independent artist. So you're sacrificing your wallet. So a lot of times when you do it professionally and you do it at a uh a level that you want people to see you at, you're gonna you're gonna basically co-broke doing a lot of stuff. Right. Only difference is a wrestling, you sacrifice your body. Yep. Oh I didn't think about that. I've yeah, I've I've come to terms like at some point, hopefully, God God forbid, like I might get hurt. Yeah, I step out that curtain every time knowing hopefully not getting an injury, but like thinking the universe like I came out unscathed, that I go out that curtain every time, hoping that the person I'm working with out there protects me and I can protect him so we both go home and see our families at the end of the day. So you can be seriously hurt, you could die, literally. Like no. Yeah, some wrestlers could die. That's why they put so much of emphasis on training and stuff like that. Yeah, uh um with my day job, um I'm training about like uh two times a week, but I'm trying to get back into like training like three to four. They recommend you train at least three times a week. Um does that entail, like a lot of you know uh stretching and dragon. Cardio sets on one thing because uh a lot of people tend to get out there in that ring and like you're you're two to three minutes in this match. You still got another seven to eight to go when you're winded. It's almost like a fight in a way. Yes, essentially, yes. I always tell people like uh wrestling is just like athletic theater. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Performance art. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:57

Yeah, performance art. Yeah. I mean it's real and it's not real at the same time in a lot of ways.

SPEAKER_00 13:01

Like it's I I think the only thing fake about the whole encounter is like the the the winners. Yeah. The winners and losers. The winners and losers are predetermined, bullet, but what gets you there? That's all real. Yeah. When I'm when I'm in there, I'm not like not fake punching the guy. I'm actually hitting him. It's just like you're hitting him a certain way. Hitting him, yes, hitting him a certain way that doesn't actually knock the guy the fuck out, you know. Right.

SPEAKER_03 13:29

Oh, don't worry. It's like in um, you know, like when they have those acting schools and stuff and they have like the fake glass battles that you crack over someone's head and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_00 13:37

Is is is exactly when I'm slamming that guy, I'm not slamming him on a trampoline. I'm actually sending him on like a mat that's covered by like two by fours and stuff like that. That that's that that ring isn't like a trampoline. That's that that's some shit, like some hard shit on our bodies are constantly falling on. It's just like again, going to train and getting the proper training so you're able to protect yourself so you have longevity in your career.

unknown 14:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 14:06

Have you ever thought, just to go on like something else, have you ever thought of like um playing one of your own songs for like your intro song to come out to?

SPEAKER_00 14:15

I thought about it. Uh but like I'm such a cur um such a critic of myself that like I don't I got you. Yeah, I don't really like playing my own music sometimes. I got you. This is not a job interview. This is a this is a yeah. Like sometimes I like I have a really bad mood where sometimes I like my music, and sometimes I'm like really critical, like, oh, this couldn't have been done done so much better. Oh, this this aged poorly. I'm not gonna lie, like yeah. How long ago did you do it? I've been doing music since 2014. Okay, so for a while. Yeah. I started out as a comedic rapper though. I didn't initially be a uh like a hip hop artist. Like Led Diggy or something? Yes. Like I was doing parodies and comedic music. Uh I actually went viral a few times doing that on my YouTube channel. The first time I went viral was in 2017 when I uh made a parody of Kenny Kenji Glamar's Humble. Yeah. Um that ragged up about 10 million views until the video was removed from YouTube with some legal issues. Um I went viral, like uh another parody in my feelings, uh Take Hayes the Race. Yeah. You know, just parodies of like upskirts, subject matters, and shit like that, like masturbating and just being a this this the craziest shit you could think of. I recently went viral in um 2023 or 2022, I think it was, uh, when one of my older videos was getting like popular on TikTok. Um I made a uh parody, a gay parody, is that uh uh to be exact called Gay Cole, and it was a parody of Jake J. Cole's middle child.

SPEAKER_03 15:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:56

And for some odd reason, like people on TikTok loved it, and it went up going viral, like really like massively viral. I had like rappers like Young Jock, uh, the one chick from Wildin' Out reciting it. I had The Radio Girl. Yeah, yeah, the Red Girl. She was reciting it, the lyrics and stuff like that. Like it was actually going pretty big. Um put it in on streaming platforms right now. It's it's actually my highest stream song right now. Wow. Sitting at 300 and K listens. Damn. Yeah. It's actually my uh highest rated song right now. That's cool. It's crazy how stuff just works out when you just drop it and do it. That's that's the beauty of like just like the internet, yeah, and just like letting stuff exist and sit because you don't never know who will like pick it up, like, yo, this is actually hilarious. Like, I'm gonna push this. Because when I originally had posted that video, I posted that video like 2019 that song came out. And I posted that parody in 2019. And the original views around that song was like 40k, 40k wasn't bad. That's good, really good.

SPEAKER_03 17:02

That's more than anything I would like.

SPEAKER_00 17:04

40k on YouTube wasn't bad at all. I was actually pretty happy, but now like with the success of like TikTok and everything like that, that video is probably sitting at like 200k plus now. Because of people, the traction from TikTok coming over to YouTube and everything like that, and the traction going to Spotify. Uh at some point I was sitting about like 2,000, not even sorry, 11,000 monthly lists on Spotify. I was sitting at Wow. Yeah. That was good, man.

SPEAKER_01 17:34

Where you know, I'm trying to go put it all together. Here's this guy like in professional wrestling, he did a lot of rapping stuff like 10 years ago, I guess. Or something like that. And um, you know, what what what do you think drove you to this creation? Because not everybody has it. Like, I honestly got like a lot of times I don't even think I have it. I've always been a creative kid. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 17:54

Coming up, um Were you like the class clown in school? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 17:58

Yeah, a little bit like that. You seem very like performer, like you were a born performer. Low-key was.

SPEAKER_00 18:03

I was gonna ask if you were like a theater kid or anything when you were uh I did get class clown, like like uh in elementary school. I didn't get it in high school, but there were people who tell me like I should have, but I didn't get it. Um jokes on you. Yeah, jokes on me for real. I didn't get it, but yeah, like I was always like the uh performative kid, like um I would draw a lot, like I was really into drawing. Oh, okay. Like cartoons, anime. Um I was more so like the anti-sports kid going off. Really? The other kids, like in my neighborhood growing up, they always wanted to play football. Like I would I just wanted to play like pretend or some bullshit like that, like pretend like anime episodes or shit like that. Yeah, and I actually I do have a degree in theater. Oh that's my my minor. I'll graduate above state in 20 uh 2018. That's where I graduated. Bro, congrats, bro. Like alumni, alumni, bro. Maybe you guys are in the street. We might have been in the same area, like smoking a lot. My uh my major was uh media production, communications and media production. That's crazy because that's where I was in journalism. Oh bet. So we probably remember AD?

SPEAKER_01 19:20

Yes, that was my that was my favorite professor here. He's in Carolina. I'm still present with them on like LinkedIn or something like that. Yeah, I'm guessing probably in a class together. Remember how he like drilled us on like all the the the special keys on the keyboard? Yes for editing? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you ever had like a test like what's it? Is it is it all select A or is it select C or D? I still have that notebook. I wish I had that notebook. I still have that notebook. I used the same keys for the Audacity program that we used to edit the show. Yeah. Humble uh Humble uh BMP podcaster television.

SPEAKER_00 19:54

That's crazy, bro. It's small world. You probably you you probably remember me, but you don't remember me because like in college I was probably fat. Oh, yeah. I had long hair. I had very long hair. I probably remember you, you probably remember me with just like the like years go by and shit just happens. But like I was a big deal with the college, so yeah. I didn't start losing weight until after college.

SPEAKER_01 20:13

Well, I mean, now I do not see I I I I you tell me that you were bigger back then, but for reasons of looking at you now, I'm saying that that is bullshit. Because like you really do look like you have gained a lot of strength and vitality.

SPEAKER_00 20:27

Yeah, I've been strength training, I've been uh weightlisted for about almost a decade now. So that's like I I started weightlifting like Yeah, you went right out of school, right to the gym? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. Exactly. Like as soon as I graduated college, I just hopped to the gym and just it's just been like full of scent ever since. So how do you feel about Buffalo in general? I mean, where did you grow up? East side or the west side or uh so or it varies. Like I was here, here, here, here. Um like early childhood, I grew up on Broadway or Buffalo. Oh, okay. And then like towards like every all the areas I live were very, very rough coming up. Especially um during my like my adolescence, I say like seven to like thirteen. I used I live uh downtown Buffalo. If anyone like listening knows where that's at down the way. Down the way? Down the way it was called. I'm not see I'm not like a a hood of a gang guy, but but I I I know of some shit. Right. Down the way is what what they used to call it back then. That's where I lived. Uh the elicit homes or I think it was, or uh near the parry and stuff like that. That's where I lived. Yeah. And then like during high school, I lived on uh in the west side, on near the man of homes, right across the street from uh the uh marina, I believe it was. That's where I used to live at for the majority of high school. And then like uh high school the graduation through high school and Early college, I woo-foo back down away. It's been back and forth, back and forth through all my life, honestly. Do you feel like that's like shaped you or Buffalo has shaped you in a way? For sure. For sure. I I like I I don't think I would be the person I am had I not come up in that environment. Coming up, like going to schools. Uh again, for anyone who knows, I I went to Buffalo Elementary School of Technology, which is called Best School Six, which is legit, like right there in Donnaway, uh downtown Buffalo. Uh and then for high school, I went to McKelly. I graduated McKelly, which is down the street from here where we're at right now. Right. And which did those are both both urban schools and stuff like that, as opposed to I originally wanted to go to performing arts, because again, I I was a a kid who liked to draw and shit like that. So I originally wanted to go to performance arts and stuff like that. Uh that never panned out. So I ended up going to a more urban school with uh McKelly. And if anyone who went to McKelly knows McKenzie was some shit like early 2008 through 2013, yeah. Uh but I I do, I will say it it did shape me into the individual I am today. Like I had to have like tough skin.

SPEAKER_01 23:17

Yeah, you needed tough skin a lot of people.

SPEAKER_00 23:19

It really kind of prepared you for like what you're doing now, though. Yeah, yeah. I I've had to have tough skin in everything I've done, especially YouTube. I've had comments. Oh my god, they will destroy you no matter what. Oh man, I have have had death threats. Wow. I forgot like just people saying just like the most like depraving shit about me, inboxes and shit. All types of shit you can think of. I've even had like even through my success, I've even had like sexual posts, like people like sexually interesting, men and women and trans people. Okay. Yeah. I think one of the most interesting ones was like I had like uh a trans woman sliding my DMs before, which is cool. Yeah, which is which is cool. You know, I I'm I I I ain't against it. Well, it's not something I'm particularly into, but I wasn't against it. I like I kind of knew she was trans when like she slid on my inbox and said the titty picks off rip. Like, okay. Like, since women don't do that off the general, but I respect it. Thank you so much for this. But yeah, like you guys should be prepared for anything. Yo, listen, man. The craziest one I think I got is when a dude like sent me a video of him twerking. Yeah. That was insane. That was all because I was going viral for all my gay parodies and shit like that. So basically, for some odd reason I was a gay icon for a little bit. Huh, yeah. Yeah, nothing wrong with that, man. I fuck with it. I fuck with the community over here.

SPEAKER_03 24:46

You could have parlayed it into your wrestling and stuff at a whole like niche fan base and stuff.

SPEAKER_00 24:51

Listen, bro, I'm trying to get back into making music. Yeah. To try to like blend that fan base of hip hop and wrestling and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_03 25:00

Uh something I might, you know, I might you can do like your own OBO videos or whatever where that's like you could just like jump off of like clothes lines and shit. For sure.

SPEAKER_00 25:08

For sure, man, for sure. I I thought about it. Thought about it heavily getting back into that.

SPEAKER_01 25:14

What's a uh what's the song that you wrote back in the day that maybe we can play a clip of right now? Uh the most popular one.

SPEAKER_00 25:22

The most popular one I want to hear. Honestly, my most popular song is the gay code thing. Oh, is it? Yeah, I don't know if you want to play that right now. Um I think one of the songs that I actually do like really like a lot though. Okay, yeah, yeah. It's called it's uh sauce. Sauce. Sauce featuring uh B Day Light, which is a Buffalo artist here in Buffalo. Cool. If you guys want like wanna play that one at the end or yeah, we'll let's play a clip of it right now. I keep more sauce than go to Ramsy. I saute niggas, but raw time to you. Kick flows, so hard trainers can stay at me. I'm way past leading the shit. So come and fuck with a nigga and fuck with you. Figure I always deliver. I can't throw him at your door, the nigga. I need cheese like a pizza, so I can spread the wealth for my people. I am an express game start, made me for the features. I'm amazing. I'll exped it, I just perfected. I got the keys like your dinner, man. I should manage your act so the fuck I beat. You haven't trouble voluntarily in again.

SPEAKER_03 26:20

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SPEAKER_01 26:53

And we're back just talking to Sheck about uh his uh wrestling career a little bit. He's uh gonna have a show here in May, but before that, he's gonna be uh in Pennsylvania, I think he said.

SPEAKER_00 27:04

Yes, Dumore PA at Seek Pro Wrestling and uh Holy Cross High School.

SPEAKER_01 27:10

What's it like going to different cities just to like you know do wrestling? It sounds like you know, it just sounds awesome to me.

SPEAKER_00 27:18

I love traveling. Like that's that's one of the the beauties of pro wrestling. And uh one of the main things our trainer taught us is sometimes you just gotta get in the car and just go. Um, like for example, um a colleague, uh wrestler of mine, he made got in contact with me this one early Sunday morning. It was like, hey, are you busy? I was like, No, I'm I'm free. It was like, what's up? It's like, hey, I can get you a show in Canada. Yeah, just right off the bat there. Yeah, just randomly just wrestled in Canada one Sunday because I was available. And that that happens a lot sometimes. Sometimes you just like somebody might drop it or somebody might not be available and they need bodies. So if you're free, you can you can just earn yourself a spot, you can earn yourself a booking just by being available or just be just being able to get in a car and go. Uh I got booked out in Dunmore PA just because I went out there. I didn't even wrestle the first time I went out there. I just went out there to just to show face, to show support. Um just helping out, like, hey, whatever if you guys need help um breaking up the ring or um carrying like stuff like that and getting shit set up, I'm here to help. You know, just being that available person gets you booking sometimes, stuff like that.

SPEAKER_03 28:34

Do you have like a manager?

SPEAKER_00 28:36

Yes. Gotcha.

SPEAKER_03 28:37

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:37

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he's actually my best friend. My best friend, uh Mossy. Oh, good. Shout out, Moss. Masi is my manager. He what he does is he uh he searches for bookings for me to get me booked, and he handles like uh merchandise. Um it just honestly, it's just trying to get me uh exposed, basically. That's what that's what he does for the most part.

SPEAKER_01 29:07

Well, um that's all the time we have for today, folks. Thanks for listening to the BMP podcast, Buffalo Music Players. Uh Max, did you want to say anything?

SPEAKER_03 29:15

It's been a pleasure having you, man. I'm glad you came through. It's been very informative. You uh you trying to light in a world that I had no idea about, so thank you guys.

SPEAKER_00 29:22

Yeah, yeah, stay in touch. I want to know more about you. Absolutely, thank you so much. Thank you guys for having me. I I I appreciate the opportunity. I appreciate you guys' time. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 29:31

Well, alright, listen later, peace. May the songs be with you guys. Cooji, the bringer of life, the bringer of unimaginable joy, the cause of catastrophic destruction. Knowing that you have something so powerful, wouldn't you want the best to take care of it? Pardon me for saying this, I am just a humble announcer. But if I had a coochie, I'd probably get it waxed at Cheyenne's waxing studio on 830 Elmwood Ave. You have power in between your legs. So why not have it taken care of by the best? It's the B and P podcast. If you are artists, no matter discipline, we'll help you out. Don't believe in gatekeeping, we all gotta eat, and this is our way of helping out just the host, Max, the cup, the trip. So here we go. Like, why you gotta podcast? Everybody got up. To be quite honest, I don't got a job. Living there prospect, like I'm gonna go rock. Thank you for the pot. I'm not designed to crap. I'm too pretty for present. But talking of the dome. I'm finna make a kill. If Joe Rogan can do it, I sure can. I've never fucked a stool, so I've got the upper hand. If Joe Rogan can do it, I sure can. I've never fucked a stool, so I've got the upper hand.

unknown 31:21

It's the B and B pocket, pocket.