Unmasking Qing Cash - Episode 24

In this episode, Spink China’s Head of Numismatics (Asia) Elaine Fung along with Dr. Yu Tong and Professor Alex Fang take a deep dive into the rigorous and exquisite world of Qing Dynasty Cash Coins. We discussed the thousand years old ancient philosophy behind its design to the meticulous start from hand engraved models all the way to mass production as well as other lesser known uses of cash coins in the palace and with the common people at the time. 

We also focused on a numismatic titan – Dr. Werner Burger, who spent over 40 years honing on a single craft and thus managed to build a comprehensive collection of Qing Cash that contains thousands of varieties and pieces. With a unique insight, he used his expertise on western taxonomy to dissect every part of the official Qing Dynasty palace documents, which in turn created an unprecedented comprehensive study on Qing Dynasty cash coins. Dr. Tong and Professor Fang told us their first hand insight from working with this collection, and their astonishment when seeing rarities come to life in their hands. 

We not only tried to introduce Qing cash to a wider audience. The conversation more importantly was a candid discussion on the purpose of collecting, whether it is just to compile and complete, to reach for the stars to get a better return in the future or truly to preserve each piece’s tangible history.

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:00

Welcome everyone to this special rendition of Spink Podcast. Today's topic will be talking with two specialists this time about Chinese Ching Cash. So the following podcast will be conducted in Mandarin. For any watchers, listeners who wish to listen in English or watch in English, there will be subtitles.

SPEAKER_02 22:45

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SPEAKER_03 25:43

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SPEAKER_02 26:51

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SPEAKER_03 35:53

Uh I think here's that champion, to me, some chicken, kaida. Tabi mean juhisia, juhisia kaiwada, to ya chaloshoda tigger. Jigger couldn't tell the yungfu, too. Like bow you take a choose out of king.

SPEAKER_02 36:34

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SPEAKER_03 44:19

Uh Hashincher. A dinner to gang shortly, Xi Hang. Chiang the Huana Tash Chian B truza Lai and the Tapi. Yes, you should ye Chungo Li dio Chanting San Chen that chicken chicken true be the leash. Diarga, yes, Diarga Shanghai. Uh Taman Tung eat Hung Han Hang eat Yan Shi Douto. Sent Hyo is Ming water champ. If it touched that Chi Hu said Chinho Shin Chung, so ye take a chicos hang. Sang Yeshua sh the go tain channel. Yes, sure ta n go, that chinhouse can be changed eager. Chung yao to foot eager, you go eager chun yao the chi. Ah yi or something take a coach of foot. Ah ye usually eager so eager to go, too eager chun ha. Uh eager yo mean read uh some eager eager eager shit. So it's like uh then go then go ching then go batter jigger chingo yan to the jigger, then go changed on ching, then go changed women yet chandelig. Uh soin uh easy to you tender strength, her changed. Uh easen chicken easy as the chicken. Like Kum Tsu Chango. Uh what you sing uh Tai La Chulinal or shai Tai Chin Chiso. Uh Yi Lud Champion Chung the Jigga Kungo. Nungo Chi, but she said, No, Nungo Yo Chan the Chiquit Nungo Chi Tempy, Chin Ching Chi Kung the Chisia Nungo T Lee Swan Sida, uh Y least one so you can quote the Tiguan. Well got rid of the fish on the child the chiquit.

SPEAKER_02 50:03

Um Tashi g uh twenty thing the eager trigger eager nigga wang shan the guan you ta sh be also sensitive. Um feet hong quang fan takeo di taker and the sho young to face on sung. Um tatujin uh feet on sung at the turdi. A ching saw the champion and yum ta ching si on to bubata dang wish, which is the shelter show machine the chiyon tigger changed the son of don't shall do one, ye pubatan wish. Um puyinabush. So you woman tick uh push a fish on the shitong, or much on the she tons. So it pool in up was tartia to the fenish. She found the fenish, you show on a yonder siad finity she tong whooping, take a call the finity she switched at younger put on the girls. So time may eager champ changed the eager girls anime. So you tat the ring with the tongue tea senior, tame your ring with our championship about the curve yet, tame the motuo. So you know, pimper so tap each on child. So it's eagle, yes, um one whooping the chat um the yeast, fees on the chang. So you know yeah yin shawm the shoot on the yeast.

SPEAKER_03 58:21

Uh take a young big human, the kaiche poop that ticket, well has social water ticker two thousand water uh uh uh may push. So in a uh kind of foolina lost the ticket than card of many sword chicken true water. Well you kind of pime candle, them and card door. Tapishi so kombi some the teacher. I ban like sufa um tai chan shit. Uh may champina send your be to shen that chun shoot the yippants or shen fung ji, eager part the e champion to the sangun chishi, ta chiun the yian. Uh the beauju the sholdensu the three goldens, you know, tickle tigga tigger tigger biochu. So you know then go tai chun kind of the tick, sure the yoga fit on that. Linwine high just uh don't have fun of yet, just take a touch eagle by sh eager by should uh tick a ticker lent home. Uh you may eat so uh yigo buy should not yes.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:27

Um the shoes on target. Um ta tiging or may yet uh sheang yes on yu means bad. So um So you will can underbean child, so don't shoot changed the guan yuan, haiu tzu, tho chang the guan yuan, tam kukuman ho ezen. Then any ye to then changed, changing organ changu changed from haiu yiguang. Town than a colour band chang you home at some youtu you hold you. Tapus on chanzu some pay shall add push your chan su some shall at the teacher, or come in chair, you fan so that the teacher. Eagle e dang good. Then she had surface on chin she wants you to face on the house, you have to teach on her face on the piano. So you pi tool at the shut young chin. I should have shell judge. How you give a shenku and you shouldn't change shoes on the shoon. Well fashion uh eager fish on tribia tongue once and eager children, uh deal the woman. So you can yield sugar. So you pu in a bush the kitons, uh chambish.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:09

Uh so you n the trigger chiman sana womk, you see twenty hot to take a shotgun. So you fad the yoga you can't get away. That's a tan and go sort he central. Gan'tai take uh fong or shit you like hung um di attendees. Uh couldn't you do sound? Well send that cache that true easier each and mayo easy uh guan true the easiest. Well, Shansa Ruguo can't eat each champion high or easy you you tell me.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:31

Um there the time being the dog. So yeah. Um to be uh uh huang. So it's a teasung.

unknown 1:30:20

I think that's a good thing.