Wendy Womack-Phillips - STV: 26

Marc sits down with Wendy Womack-Phillips of Birds of a Feather & Friends for a charming conversation about antiques, home décor, and the inspiration behind her beautifully curated shop. Wendy shares her love of history, design, and the welcoming atmosphere that makes her store such a special part of St. Francisville. 

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Hello everyone, and welcome to SpeedFill. I'm Mark Sharp. I have a great fashion. Okay, speaking of the fantastic aquarium on the birds of a feather and fast. Charming, fun things, serious things, whimsical things, and just a wonderful array of uh. Hi, Wendy. Thank you for coming. Thank you. What's going on at Birds of a Feather nowadays?

SPEAKER_00 0:38

Well, we've just finished um celebrating our five-year anniversary on Saturday. Five full years of myself being in business. I have been birds of a feather for five years. I moved to St. Francisville seven years ago. And of course, one of those years, early years was COVID. And then after that, I started Birds and then two years ago moved to the new location. Um, and now it's Birds of a Feather and Friends. But my total namesake is celebrated five years on Saturday.

SPEAKER_01 1:07

Oh, congratulations.

SPEAKER_00 1:08

So we're pretty we've been pretty busy.

SPEAKER_01 1:11

So uh what are you featuring these days? I always found some wonderful things. I gave my sisters and my aunts some of your beautiful nightgowns that were beautiful. I remember that.

SPEAKER_00 1:22

And that's been an interesting thing for me to do. I was always in I've been in fashion or decor all my life. And blending the two of market items and buys and finds and unique one-of-a-kind items, buys and finds, is more of birds of a feather and friends. Um birds of a feather, when I started, I really curated it as a a travel escape, only, only antiques, only consignment, only you know, maybe I had a candleline or two, or maybe a spoon, gumbo spoons, but it was it was not as as much um of a blend. And that's what I am now. I do a lot, I do a large um kitchen area, which we do very well in. Um just everything from oyster pans to scrub brushes to to uh martini mixes to nightgowns, as you said. But my heart and my passion is in decor, decorating, and um mixing old and new. So that's um that's where we're going with the friends concept. And um have uh only a few vendors in there with me. It's not really a uh antique mall of sorts any longer from my from the location it had been prior, me taking it over. Um, but I do have some in there that do vintage as well. I try to tend more on the antique side, but I do also do some vintage.

SPEAKER_01 2:46

Well, you know, whenever I go in there, I find things I love. It's a great and I really try to I I just mix it.

SPEAKER_00 2:53

You know, I just it's a it's a bigger store and it's been a little bit of a challenge for the two years to to keep it more not a not an antique mall, maybe two or three vendors, but keeping it curated with enough of a little bit of everything at every price point. Um, because I mean I love just going to antique stores in the bigger cities and just just getting lost in them. But you know, we have to kind of have it all for everybody here. We still have the festival goer, we have a, you know, mother of three, and we have retirees. So I have all price points. And so I really try to work hard to have a a curated mix of it all. And that's where some of the some of the market buys come in, you know.

SPEAKER_01 3:32

I love when you did that big wall of blue and white.

SPEAKER_00 3:35

Yes. That has been a successful, successful wall um for selling. It's been an inspiration. And that's what's been really rewarding for me when I do things. I'll, you know, one of my one of my happy moments, I guess, when I opened is, you know, you're bringing something to people you you, you know, I've not known forever. I was a transplant here. I loved St. Francisco. I chose to stay here after some things had happened. And I, well, I'm gonna go here, go there. And I said, you know, I'm gonna, I'm planting roots here. And I just brought what I liked. And um, that's what I happened in my first store is I just kind of, to me, it felt like a well-traveled store because I I love to travel, I always did, and I would just collect different things from everywhere. And people are like, oh my God, this is so neat, you know? And so when I do things such as the blue wall, that I just said, you know what? Let's just throw them all up there. No rhyme or reason. We're gonna do them like they're moving. I just want it to look like moving. And I try my best not to, I mean, I'm trying not to get on social media and and and follow things and like we used to pick up the magazines anymore, but I don't know whether I saw it somewhere. I said, you know, I just want it to be like flowing blue. And it really hit. I think I've had it now for like eight months, and I'm just really constantly recreating it and it gives people ideas. Do the saucer, do a broken top of a pot. If you broke the teapot of your grandmother's, but you still have the pot, you know, whatever. Use it, use it, use it. And let's put it all there together. And that's been really that makes me happy when I do something like that that that people can resonate with and they like it, and they take it home and do it themselves, no matter what they have.

SPEAKER_01 5:05

And the and blue and white is timeless.

SPEAKER_00 5:08

Timeless. And it's really saw the resurgence. Of course, now we're in the Easter season and the greens and the cabbages are so so thing. But you know, blues are going to be around forever, you know. So it's been um, and it's a fun um teaching experience. I never thought, you know, I was getting older. I've been doing this now for you know, 20, 30 years, and uh to teach people the blue willow story and to teach them this and and look on the back of the plate. Stuff that, you know, I always heard from other people 20 years ago. Now I'm teaching people. I love that myself. And we have the whole grand millennial um generation that's doing stuff now. So these girls are so happy and they come in with their, with their um, you know, oh, I want to do my kitchen or whatever, and so to share the stories. But the blue wall has has been a success.

SPEAKER_01 5:49

Well, Wendy, you were so kind when I was teaching my history of furniture class for Ollie, and you let me come in for my last class where people weren't just looking at pictures and on a screen, they got to touch and feel, and we showed them different periods. That was a great experience.

SPEAKER_00 6:04

Well, it was fun. It was fun for me. That's exactly what I was saying. It's it's good to learn and share. And period pieces are neat because it all history is is is a most especially around here, so it's a it's this thread that runs through everything. So if you find something that you you want to share, I I find people are very interested in knowing those things. And so some of your knowledge that you shared that day was amazing because it's just, you know, I I still pass it on now. And people ask, you know. So I and I love that. I love that part of of antiquing.

SPEAKER_01 6:34

I do too.

SPEAKER_00 6:35

You know, we know a little bit now that I'm, you know, my 50s, I know about the, you know, oh, that was in the 70s or the 80s and the vintage of the mid-century modern. But some of the antiques don't lose those, those, those things and those memories. It's really neat. I enjoy it.

SPEAKER_01 6:48

I think they give a room character. You know, so often people I think an eclectic room that has a mix of different things are really great, but I do think that's something that's got a real patina uh uh or patina, depending on how you say it. Um it gives the room a foundation and it gives a look of age that's welcome, as opposed to just everything being brand new. I like that a lot. And that's what people can find at your place. So just these wonderful like little inch uh what is the word? Uh anchor Oh my gosh, I can't remember the word. Uh I don't know what that would be anyway.

SPEAKER_00 7:29

But it is being fun.

SPEAKER_01 7:31

Listen, you're gonna have to cut that out. We're gonna pick up again right now. What I love is when pieces have real character and they have a whole story to tell on their own. Like you're saying, you can love to tell and repeat stories that you've learned about things.

SPEAKER_00 7:47

And I think that makes a home. There's a difference between a house and a home to me. And I think I'm finally back loving what I'm doing. I've always liked it myself, but I'm a more is more person. Tony Duquette is my my man. I have always layered and layered and layered and layered, and I don't know if it's just my personality. I don't know if I'm a hoarder through life, I don't know if I collect through my travels. I just love things uh because they're memories to me. I'm a I'm a very attached thing to a memory. I have little things of my grandmothers that are true. I look at them, it's just like the smell. I remember. And so my houses have always been like that throughout my life. And now we're finally coming back into color and to character and to to having things. And so it's it's just really interesting and fun to teach people how to layer pieces, you know, put that in, and they'll say, Oh, I had that, I have that. Oh my God, that was my mom's, or you know, that was my grandma's or whatever. Would I use that? Yes, bring it out, use it, then get this and pair with it, and then put your favorite book in there. And, you know, it's just to blend them and let decor, just like fashion, it's it lets you bloom, lets you be who you are. In different stages of our life, we experience different things. Sometimes it's fashion, sometimes it's home decor. And in the community that we're in, we're very attached to our houses and our homes and making them warm and creative. We still have the house parties, we still have, so it's just tell a story. And so I I've never been one that looks at something and we're gonna do it all this way. No, it's there's no one way. Put what you like, if you see it and it grabs your eye. There was something, whether it's a spirit, whether it's an old memory, whether something attached to that, bring it home.

SPEAKER_01 9:26

No, you're absolutely right. I think that's that's just fact. Um, so you have a lot of people that come to you now that are shopping uh from all over the place. Where where do some of your people come from that are shopping?

SPEAKER_00 9:38

Well, you know, due to our cruise line industry, we we truly get them from everywhere. But locally speaking, we have a humongous Lafayette um clientele, huge Baton Ridge clientele. But I've gotten a lot of more Shreveport travelers uh in the last since as I've been in business five years. It started out maybe one or two, but I think as our tourism industry grows, I get a lot of Shreefort um travelers now. And I and I ship a lot. I ship um quite a good bit. And then of course, my my boat travelers come from you know everywhere. I just left a Viking cruise that was on today, and they were from Portland and North Carolina, you know, just all over. But you know, those aren't the ones that can always take home something, but they admire it and and they talk and they they speak about it and it and it warms my heart that there's true conversations of people who bring up an old picture or bring up an old something that, oh, I had one of that, or this is in my house back home, or something. You know, but I have seen my local tourism be at the state of Louisiana grow a lot. I get a lot of Jackson, Mississippi as well.

SPEAKER_01 10:41

Well, we have Viking and American crews, and those come and land here, and we uh have those tourists in town. You they buy a lot, do they?

SPEAKER_00 10:51

We they do. I would say on occasion, I have shipped a horse to California. I've shipped China, I ship small things. Um, but typically they do try to buy something local or they try to buy something locally made, be it a small piece of art and you know, something that's not shippable, something that they can put in their pop in their bag. But yes, I do ship and I have. It's been and that's been an interesting part too, is when people get home from their cruise and they're excited and they call back or they like me on Instagram or they they leave a little comment, oh, I love that town the best, you know, of my trip. So that always warms our heart too. We really try to be a very welcoming place. I'm lucky my manager has since worked 12 years at Grandmother's Buttons, which was a, you know, an iconic store here in St. Francisville. She's always known the tourism industry, she's always been around the boats. She's she's a great one. Um, she's a very good conversationalist. And um, we try to be as warm and as welcoming and as open and you know, because they're just here for a second of time. Just share some southern hospitality. I'm not gonna try to sell them an Ottoman painting, you know, just just and it's it's been interesting. And we talk about antiques and we talk about the past and we talk about what we're gonna do and what they're gonna give to their children, and you know, because I also do the consignment angle. So we talk about, oh, I'm getting rid of my stuff and everything like that. So we we also have a good time in there.

SPEAKER_01 12:06

That's excellent. I love Triva. That's the person you mentioned from Grandmother's Button, she's really she is, she's been a blessing.

SPEAKER_00 12:13

I was glad. Susan came when she was closing her store, and I said, Susan, is there anybody? She said, My manager. And I went in the rain over there and and caught her, and um, it's been a good, it's been a good partnership.

SPEAKER_01 12:24

That's excellent. So, do you have any exciting plans? Are you just gonna let things go as they are?

SPEAKER_00 12:31

Well, this the recent, the most recent, other than celebrate my five year, we opened a my sister came on board with me.

SPEAKER_01 12:38

And um that's confusing because you all look just like each other.

SPEAKER_00 12:41

We do, we do, and we got a lot of that this weekend. It was really funny. Uh, you know, did you change clothes? You know, it it's it was really, really cute this weekend when I I talked to somebody and then somebody else talked to her. We we really do. We we favor a lot. She was a twin, but her sister, my sister, our sister, um, died at uh uh childbirth. And so she's always, and then it's just me. And so I'm the youngest. And so she and I have always been very close, very good friends. She is a um gifted teacher, retired. And she we've always had a our our our mother had home decor. I mean, we were moving pianas at three o'clock in the morning. I mean, she'd get us up. I mean, we're pushing the piano down the road. I mean, my mother was always everybody in town knew her as, oh, Marcel's house is so pretty. You know, and this is in the 80s and the late 70s and 80s and through the 90s. And so I guess I got it from there. I remember hanging wallpaper along with her. I hung border, you know, and and we just did it. My dad worked at a hardware store and we had the whole um, you know, wallpaper books. We'd look through them and go pick it out and everything. So I guess it's just in my in my blood, and it's in hers as well. She had just chosen a more traditional route. She got married, two children, was a school teacher, da-da-da-da. And um, here recently, about three months ago, she kind of started, what do you think about this? You think I could sell it? What do you think about this? You think I could sell it? And so she came in and we opened a uh pillar to perch. It's a just a 20 by 20 space. Um, we're gonna do it home to patio um because we think a lot of people, just as this wonderful patio is out here, a lot of people are expending a lot more time outdoors in your outdoor kitchens and your outdoor stuff. Let's be sure in Louisiana, we have such a long season, even with our fans going, even with the, you know, things, the breezes that we hope come by, we're outside. And so from potting to planting to eating to to designing to decorating uh art, concrete, we did pillar because we want to have concrete pieces, we want to have uh harsh pieces, uh metals, concretes, and then perch, just where you perch, you know, just like uh a little bird.

SPEAKER_01 14:44

It's very clever, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:45

So um, so that's the newest endeavor. And it's a 20 by 20 space. It's it took up a bit, a bit of the store. And she comes in from Lafayette now. So she's gonna be coming in once a week. She's gonna work the store as well as, you know, stock is is, and again, we're gonna stock some items. We're stocking friskers, scissors, things that you, you know, hedger, hedgers, things like that. But mainly it's gonna be one-of-a-kind finds. You know, we're searching and digging and looking gates, metal gates, metal fencing, things for your herb garden, things to plant in your herb garden, old trunks, old troughs, you know. So it's kind of like a different venture.

SPEAKER_01 15:20

I like that.

SPEAKER_00 15:20

So that's the new that's the newest little version.

SPEAKER_01 15:23

So um Yeah, she and you look so much alike. I mean, I spent some time once thinking I was talking to you, and she just let me go. And then I realized I saw you walk in and I was like, wait.

SPEAKER_00 15:40

Yeah, we do. We we always have. She's three years older, I do have to say. But um, I work a lot. I think I'm catching up with the wrinkles. So I think we do look exactly alike.

SPEAKER_01 15:50

So let me ask you, where are your favorite places to find treasures? I don't want you to give away any secrets, but I mean, just in general, like no, you know, I would love um, you know, Europe was always my favorite.

SPEAKER_00 16:02

And when I was in New Orleans, I had the opportunity to go to Europe several times and and I brought back a plethora of little things that some now I sell at the store. And I I always know that that's grand to go to, but I truly wander up through Arkansas and I wander around through Texas. Um, I go from Galvinston down to Houston, up to Dallas and back. I'll do a big circle there. And then this latest uh this last year, I decided, um, Susan Charley that owns the Corbell, I called her because they they used to go, now they do Europe a whole lot more and they've grown their their spread so much. They did Brimfield, Massachusetts show. And I absolutely loved going up there. Saw a lot of different types of American, a lot of American, a lot of English that I haven't because I've been so straight line to Europe and French, French, French. So I brought back some different pieces, you know, not a lot this trip, but I plan on going twice this year. So it's a huge, huge outdoor market. I think it still has the old charm of how Roundtop used to be before it got a little bit more fun and flashy and um more higher end geared. Um, of course, it still has the fields as well, but it's really more dirt, pastures just wander, and it was it was really fun. So, other than my little road trips, I'm gonna start making Brimfield a place that I uh bring things back with and just drive the old Pinski all the way back. So that's gonna be fun.

SPEAKER_01 17:29

I love shopping, it is fun.

SPEAKER_00 17:31

I know. I like to I like to talk to those people and sit there and share and where do they come from and where are they getting this stuff? And you know, because they're not brick and mortar and they're not, and they're just as happy to sell something to me and to know, and I made some friends along the way too. So it's been fun. And then when I go to Dallas and round, I just shop, whether it be Thrift, Facebook Marketplace, you know, just a plethora of just trying to bring home just different things.

SPEAKER_01 17:58

And there's so much is online.

SPEAKER_00 18:00

Oh, a ton.

SPEAKER_01 18:01

And you have a big online presence.

SPEAKER_00 18:03

I do, not in a sales force. Um, I have I have mixed feelings about that because I have, you know, I am 50. I'm not starting over at 30 or 25. I think that Shopify and all those things and shipping is great, but also I like to keep it local. I like to keep it. I found it here. And I am at the time of my life that this is my second career. And I don't think I want to go full-fledged into, you know, shipping everywhere and and and making it so huge. But so there's a blessing and a curse with social media because I sold a I sold a beautiful secretary to Pennsylvania. I mean, it hit me out of the blue. Pennsylvania, hello? What, oh yeah, I just followed you. I saw you somewhere and I was like, oh, okay, well, and he should have set up his own shippers and that that was fine with me, but I don't know. I don't know if I'm gonna go for that in the future or maybe just expand um my reach locally or regionally. I've been looking into that. I've been looking into Covington, I've been looking into North Louisiana and different things like that. If that's the way, if I want to grow, I think more stores in more locations rather than going on mainstream shipping and and that kind of stuff. It's laborus and I like just I got it there. That's the that's that one little neat shop somewhere, you know, just like if I go to Fairhope or if I go to Casser's, somewhere like that. I want to go, I went to that neat shop, you know, and that's what I want people to remember. So I'll ship it to a certain degree, but I don't really want to go totally online shopping, totally online um website, stuff like that.

SPEAKER_01 19:32

Uh so do you have a website?

SPEAKER_00 19:34

No, I do not. You it's mostly Instagram and most yes, mostly only Instagram, because I'm I just I just don't think I want to go there.

SPEAKER_01 19:42

And what is your Instagram?

SPEAKER_00 19:44

Birds of a feather SF, like St. Francisville. They're all it's all lowercase. Birds of a feather SF.

SPEAKER_01 19:49

Birds of a feather FS.

SPEAKER_00 19:51

S F. Like St. Francisville. And uh that's that's all in one. It's my it's my email, it's my Instagram handle, it's my Facebook, it's all of that.

SPEAKER_01 20:01

Well, if anybody's coming to town, they really have to stop by because it's charming and it's really an uh an interesting place to visit. And if if Wendy is there, that's a real treat. But Treve is always there. She isn't, so that's good. Yes, I I mean I bought things from there. I love the thing, and I brought friends in there that have purchased things. It's just you can always go.

SPEAKER_00 20:21

You know what I like about it again, like that that store. I've been to plenty of places. I might have come out with a notebook, I might have come out with with nothing up, you know, a napkin to blow your nose with. It it's not about, it's the experience. And what I try, and that's what I work the hardest at is I always say, I'm flipping the store, I'm doing this, or what you know, I don't want to stock store. I don't want to just have things on the counter and I stock it. And you know, even when I do bat books, I buy onesies, twosies, threes. Hey, who shares that like with me? Not I share 10, these are the hottest selling books. This is the top selling ship, you know, list. So I create my store a lot. I I create, I create, I create, I've totally constantly replacing, replenishing, switching, giving people ideas, making it warm and cozy. That's what I I like to share with my store. It's warm, it's um, it's inviting, it draws you in. You can you can walk around. There's some people that come to just detox. There are literally lawyers, there is uh an attorney that comes in there, there is a uh CPA, and they just say, I just want to walk. You know, and they just walk. And I have, I typically try my old Sprank Sinatras or my, you know, Treva likes um opera. So we just have to some kind of background noise and just fade away. I try to have some kind of water feature going. Um and I just want to walk, just enjoy the time. Relaxing. You don't get back time. And if it's five minutes, they sent relaxing because most of the time when you're looking at old things, you're remembering, you're at peace, you're you're in a good mood, you know, and you walk out of there, and that's the memory that they take back to Portland. That's the memory they take back to, you know, Miami or Wherever they are if they're on the boat. Or they take it back to Jackson, Mississippi, and they bring their friends the next time.

SPEAKER_01 22:04

Yeah, exactly. That's a good thing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:06

So that's really what I like.

SPEAKER_01 22:08

Do you ever have you been on the boats with the people?

SPEAKER_00 22:12

I have not. I've I mean I've have taken viking cruises, but I've I've never done it on these.

SPEAKER_01 22:16

No, I know some people have been on the boats actually.

SPEAKER_00 22:19

I have not, no.

SPEAKER_01 22:21

It's interesting.

SPEAKER_00 22:22

But one of my employees, Amy, she does the boats, you know, so um, and and I think they do a very good job here leading everybody around. And I love our little downtown, how it's grown to where we you do get a little pop of everything, you know.

SPEAKER_01 22:35

It's true, fashion. You know, like you say, interiors.

SPEAKER_00 22:38

Don't even buy anything, just experience what we like, experience what we taste, experience what we, you know, do, and and then leave. You're there literally three hours.

SPEAKER_01 22:46

So and our little town always has such wonderful festivals and celebrations and events.

SPEAKER_00 22:54

Well, something that we share, and now I'm glad I have it, is I have the most beautiful home on Ferdinand in the spring. I do not know how many pictures that people come because so many festivals, so many walkers, so many walkers on Ferdinand. They leave my store. Where should we go? I just say walk, you know, just walk. Um, you know, half a mile, three quarters of a mile, whatever, uh, leisurely, and uh have beautiful, beautiful um Peggy Martin roses.

SPEAKER_01 23:22

Aren't they in there stunning when they're in there?

SPEAKER_00 23:25

And so that's always a fun spot to me because they sell that, you know, if they're in the store and they're asking where I live, I'll say, well, I'll say, you know, oh, just go down the street where you see the pink roses, you know.

SPEAKER_01 23:34

So it has a name, it's monkhouse.

SPEAKER_00 23:36

Monk House. Yes, it is the monkhouse.

SPEAKER_01 23:39

The houses of monks. And that's that way because St. Francisville got its name from the Capuchin monks who would bring their dead from across the river here to bury on the bluffs. And they being Capuchin were Franciscans, hence St. Francis, St. Francisville. That's why I named it Monk House.

SPEAKER_00 23:57

Neat. Well, I've enjoyed it, but those Peggy Martins are.

SPEAKER_01 24:00

They are, they look like they're getting ready to do it.

SPEAKER_00 24:02

Yes, they're starting to butt out. They're starting to butt out. I can't wait. And I bring them up to work, and that, you know, that's another thing the tourists love. That, you know, it's just, but I but I do enjoy our town. We have really um exploded with tourism, but we have also we've got amazing locals that get out that shop that that like to share. And, you know, we have a local crowd that, you know, they're happy with where they live, they're happy with our shops. And so I have a lot of local people that know when I pick my roses at the store, they're like, oh, your roses are blooming, you know, stuff like that. So it's always been fun.

SPEAKER_01 24:36

And I've it's funny, I have actually seen just going, just scanning on Instagram, looking at different things, and I'll see people and and if they don't even mention it's St. Francisville, this is a picture of them in front of your house.

SPEAKER_00 24:49

That's right. That's right. I started noticing that last year a lot on social media. Then that few would tag me or they tag birds that they knew it was mine because I would say, well, go down the street until you see the pink roses. So, but anyway, it's it's beautiful, and thank you for that.

SPEAKER_01 25:02

They're really outstanding. I'm glad they they work well. And the create myrtle are coming along really well.

SPEAKER_00 25:06

Yes, yes, everything. Better best time of the year. I don't know. Fall's also wonderful, but spring, it's just our little town is just so full, and our beacon, you know, has done so well with little hanging baskets, and you know, we're just we're just a curated little town ourselves, just walk around.

SPEAKER_01 25:22

The millias, the azaleas, it's just remarkable. I've seen a lot of it, and it's just amazing.

SPEAKER_00 25:27

And to stop and appreciate nature is just something that you can do here.

SPEAKER_01 25:30

No, I totally agree with you. Yep. I totally agree with you. It really is a charming place. And your place just adds, you know, an amazing antidote to it all. I mean, it's thank you.

SPEAKER_00 25:44

Birds of a feather, it was uh to get there. It was uh always the John James Audubon was um was kind of the anchor point of that, but also birds of a feather hanging together, sticking together, fly together, nest together. And so I think that that's just a welcoming gathering spot. And I always try to do something with birds, but also with um, you know, water, nature, that type of stuff as well.

SPEAKER_01 26:07

Khan of Feng Shui.

SPEAKER_00 26:09

Yes, I try.

SPEAKER_01 26:10

Well, Miss Wendy, I want to thank you so much for sitting down with me. As you see, it time flew by and it's no big deal to do it. And you're gonna love when you hear it because it's so much fun. It really is. So thank you so much. And everybody, you gotta stop by Wendy's. It's at the intersection of Commerce and Ferdinand, and it's a large space to go and lose lose lose yourself. Lose yourself in. I love to do that. Um, although I get upset when I see something that I just have to have. So um remember, I offer a tour called See the Ville. Uh excuse me, it's called The Coast by Sarah. Uh it's on my website, seetheville.com. And I'm so glad I had Wendy today, and I'll have more fun guests coming up soon. Thank you.