SENEGAL ROBBED!? WEEKLY ROUND UP

Rhys & Jordan are back with a weekly round up episode with talks on Birmingham City and wether their play off hopes are done for, Jordan talks on Spurs and the coming weeks But the big news this week have Senegal been robbed of the AFCON Trophy?

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SPEAKER_00 0:10

That was it. But again, that's all fucking on its head now, isn't it? Yeah, literally. That's what I mean. I l I I probably couldn't get out there now.

SPEAKER_01 0:19

Do you think Yeah, 100%?

SPEAKER_00 0:20

To be fair though, Wrexham dropped points last night and then they played Watford. Watford, yeah, lost away. Did they lose? And we've got to play Watford and Derby, what derby the weekend. So we've got we have got teams to play above us, but that won't be easy though, whether Derby have double. Derby at home, though. Derby ain't very good at home. Oh they're not. They've got one of the worst home records in the championship. For the top top six teams, anyway.

SPEAKER_01 0:43

Do you know what I think as well with the championship? Cov are I don't want to say look well, yeah. I want to say lucky. Because whenever Cov dropped points, the team came in around and won't drop points.

SPEAKER_00 0:51

Yeah, Middlesbrough had the did it, didn't they? And then they just fucking No, but that would be missing.

SPEAKER_01 0:55

Cov won Cov lost against Southampton, didn't they? And I'm pretty sure Middlesbrough either drew or lost as well.

SPEAKER_00 1:01

Yeah, and Ipswich. Yeah, they got lucky, man. Millwall lost the weekend as well, because they got a man sent off.

SPEAKER_01 1:08

No, Millwall won, did Ipswich won? Because Millwall lost. I think Ipswich jumped up to second, possibly. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 1:15

Yeah, well, Millwall were second. Uh as as as as it stood at halftime, but they ended up losing to Blackburn. Mental, man. Mental. I don't know. It's just mad, anyway. It's this time of the season, so many things just go up and down, up and down.

SPEAKER_01 1:28

Especially championship.

SPEAKER_00 1:30

Yeah, I mean the like I could have said, there's always I think if we was to beat Derby, yeah, the weekend, because um we'd be four points behind sixth, and we have to play Wrexham, so we could close that down to one. Do you know what I mean? If results go out, if results go our way as well, yeah, because obviously got Southampton, Derby, and Watford are here.

SPEAKER_01 1:52

You'd be surprised. Look at us, weird things have happened. I'm happy though. All the time West Ham, Nottingham Forest, both pick up points.

SPEAKER_00 1:59

You've got to play for us the weekend. What a fucking gang.

SPEAKER_01 2:01

We need to we need to get points, and it's Liverpool, and I'm thinking, oh great. Just that it goes. Text my mate's saying. I'll text my mate saying, uh, because you know, I've obviously spoken not about Dr Tottenham.

SPEAKER_00 2:14

Yeah, that's a recurring thing now, though, isn't it, Doctor Tottenham?

SPEAKER_01 2:17

Right, are Liverpool the new Doctor Tottenham?

SPEAKER_00 2:19

There could be. There could be. Do you know they've let in soon like seven added uh goals in added minutes this season costing them points? So they've either drawing or winning a game, and as soon as the 90th minute's gone, they made them added time.

SPEAKER_01 2:35

I don't know, because they've let goals in the shit, didn't they? And then they sort of found some form and players were performing. Verts was Verts was Verts were playing really well all of a sudden. Uh Kirkz. Kirkz, no, Kirkz was he he started so bad, but he sort of it was like he sort of started to find his feet a little bit and then he just went shit again. I don't know, I'm I'm not sure. Soberslaw has been unreal from that.

SPEAKER_00 2:58

Soberslaw is their fucking main man. He's he's been so versatile as well. Right back, centre mid, he's even played as a 10.

SPEAKER_01 3:05

Do you know he's scored like I think there's of the three kick goals in the league this year, he scored like 30% of them.

SPEAKER_00 3:13

Probably. There was that one against Arsenal that was amazing. He scored it's the one against the And the one at the outside of the foot against Man City completely caught Donald Rummoff got that.

SPEAKER_01 3:20

The one the one against us, to be fair, at first I was like, Yeah, that was good. Yeah, I think it goes straight down the middle. But I was like at first I was like, yeah, that was quite good to be fair. Like I watched it because at first you just from the angle, yeah. It's just up and down and as as a freak out, and then you see it and you see fucking Viccario with his paper mache hands.

SPEAKER_00 3:37

He's got he's gonna go man. You're you're you're I don't know. I don't know who tap them, you know, bro. Imagine how we feel fucking don't know. I just don't know. It's a shame. Look, I've gone past the point now of having an half of a joke with you. I actually genuinely feel sorry for you.

SPEAKER_01 3:53

Because it's like you've had your fun now, but oh come on, I think, I think, and a lot of people many people will probably not agree with me because we are the worst team in the league. That's a fact at home. That's a fact. I mean at the minute, if it wasn't for our our waveform at the start of the season, which is class, and if it weren't for them points, and if it weren't for Ange fucking up in Arng and Forest, then he's done that on purpose, man.

SPEAKER_00 4:17

There you go. Big up Ange. Agent Ange gone into Forest, fucked them up.

SPEAKER_01 4:20

But yeah, I was looking uh you I was just saying, sorry, no, but we are worse, but the the result against Liverpool was quite positive, not like that. Was quite positive, put it in front of the inner one. Put it in front of the put it forward so it's in front of it. This is the outtakes.

SPEAKER_00 4:42

That's gonna piss me off now.

SPEAKER_01 4:49

Beyond the scenes, this is sh this is shit you don't see.

SPEAKER_00 4:52

Yeah, this is this is shit that looks.

SPEAKER_01 4:57

Oh, it's just a couple of shirts, it doesn't matter, it's just back drops shit, just leave it. Just make 'em Just take 'em down.

SPEAKER_00 5:03

Spacious now, it's alright.

SPEAKER_01 5:05

Right. Yeah, so we played well. Um I thought we played well. Uh I think that if we go into the rest of the games playing as we did against Liverpool, then I think we'll stay up.

SPEAKER_00 5:20

You think you will stay up now?

SPEAKER_01 5:21

No, that you didn't hear what I said, did you? I said if we play if we play the games against Liverpool, then we'll stay up.

SPEAKER_00 5:27

Yeah, to do it in Anfield as well.

SPEAKER_01 5:30

We've got players coming back, Bergval's training again. Doggy should be back soon.

SPEAKER_00 5:36

Um there isn't a player that in my head that you've got that's out that I'm like, you need him back. Kudas. You think?

SPEAKER_01 5:43

Yeah, he was our best player easily before he got injured.

SPEAKER_00 5:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:47

Um 100% Kudovsky. Kudovetsky was our best player. He ain't coming back till next season though is it. Well, apparently he's got uh his his injury, apparently, is one of these knee injuries that ends careers. Apparently. I've said before, I know I've said on this pod, and I've said to other people, our fucking fitness coaches and they're fucking looking at it because it's been two seasons now when we've got players who just get injured, injured, injured. And you can't be like, oh, it's the manager working too hard.

SPEAKER_00 6:13

No there's something else there's that's you're training regime and you're having the fitness and what is it, the well-being thing. It's not fucking tip top there at the moment.

SPEAKER_01 6:24

Something needs to change, something's not right.

SPEAKER_00 6:26

But then and then on top of that, you've got your records that seem to be every other football.

SPEAKER_01 6:29

I think it's a yeah, but they don't want to be there, do they?

SPEAKER_00 6:32

Romero apparently can leave. Van De Ven's Van Der Ven's gone. But I don't understand you now he's playing like someone who wants to go.

SPEAKER_01 6:38

But the thing is, he's not real. I don't understand how that works because if you were let's say Liverpool have been to I've seen a lot of speculation about Liverpool. Now, if you were um if you were Liverpool and you were seeing him acting like that, would you be like, right, we're gonna sign him? But then again, Isaac did the same thing and it's gone a lot of players do that, don't they?

SPEAKER_00 6:56

Throw their toys out the pram to try and get a fucking to get like gone. Like some players don't even turn up to games, training, whatever. It's it's bad. Like you say though, what what team is gonna want to fucking sign a player who's acting like that because they just do it to them. Like Isak, when Isaac done it with um Newcastle.

SPEAKER_01 7:13

Um look, I'm a little in me thinks it's not with Vicario. I think let him go. Where did you get him from? Erm I want to say Empoli.

SPEAKER_00 7:24

Emboli in Italy.

SPEAKER_01 7:26

I wanna say them, it was like that sort of team.

SPEAKER_00 7:29

Yeah, so he's coming from a half decent fucking league.

SPEAKER_01 7:32

Um Yeah, I've and it made I think, you know, you get you know, what could we sign a Dean Anderson but is he gonna want to go from one poison challenge to the next?

SPEAKER_00 7:46

I think if you stay in the Premier League, obviously big changes will happen.

SPEAKER_01 7:50

But the thing is, everyone's coming out at the minute and going, look, something's not right here. And said it, I just go, you know, even Tudor's come in and go, Look, this ain't what I fucking thought it was. This is this is this is bad. So how bad can it be? Like, how bad can it be?

SPEAKER_00 8:06

What's going on behind the scenes that I feel like you just need to s start from the ground up again, I do personally. Players like Archer Graham, that you need them sort of players that are gonna come in. He's he did well. I feel sorry for Gallagher as well, because he's a good player, he's probably not match-fit, he's come in, been thrown on the rock pink in most games where he don't even play right week.

SPEAKER_01 8:25

Apparently, he wasn't fully fit when he came in.

SPEAKER_00 8:27

Yeah, I couldn't imagine he was. He's just been thrown in the deep end, he's been made a scapegoat now, saying, What are you playing? Playing all this stuff and the other.

SPEAKER_01 8:34

He's walked in, like, what the fuck am I doing here on right wing? Apparently, Javi Simmons and Kudas have said they want out. Javi Simmons already wants out. And Kudas.

SPEAKER_00 8:41

Your man's doing TikToks. Apparently. Have you seen him on doing the thing is and then you got um that other one who's doing make-up tutorials? What's his name? Bergvau. Who's doing uh hair? Oh, yeah tutorials. Fucking come on, man. It's it's embarrassing. And you got Richardson celebrating a naughty fucking equal Yeah, but it meant a lot. I know, but he what's he for naughty minute fucking equal orders?

SPEAKER_01 9:06

No, it's only when he takes his shirt off.

SPEAKER_00 9:07

When he takes his shirt off, but still he's left. Yeah. It's happened to Liverpool, um was it many naughty? Who took his shirt off? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Fucking hell, he's got some bad curse there.

SPEAKER_01 9:17

Right, swiftly moving on.

SPEAKER_00 9:20

Afcon. Afcon's a fucking joke, man. Afcon. I don't get it, because it's happened before in games when you've had um not long ago uh the PSG game when there was racial abuse towards one of the players and they pulled him off the pitch. Yeah, but they all walked off the pitch. But if okay, if that's the case, Sadio Mane stayed on the pitch the whole time they went in.

SPEAKER_01 9:41

No, but I think it I think it's from what I've read, I read a little thing earlier, and there were two articles, and one of them was just it looked like mumble jumble. But the other one was saying basically if players walk off the pitch without the referee's permission, and I think if they're racially abused, and all the time racially abused, the referee will be like, alright, come on, let's go. Oh, so the referee has to pick the ball up and walk off the pitch. I think the referee has to say yes, let's get off the pitch. And the fact the referee didn't, that's part of the problem, apparently.

SPEAKER_00 10:09

I know I get I get that, but I feel like if that's the case if that's the case, the referee should know the fucking laws and everything. So yeah, so the referee should really, if that happens there and then, he should just go, right, okay, if that's what you want to do, I'll abandon the game now. They've won 3-0. Regardless of if it's a final or not, you've you've disobeyed the laws of the game, and that should have been it. The fact that the referee allowed play to go on and Senegal ended up eventually winning it, you can't really change it now. Do you know what I mean? I think it's a bit bad.

SPEAKER_01 10:39

You've got a key question answer. This is what I'm saying. So let me get to where it says it. Who made the decision? CAFS Confederation of African Football Highlight. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, appeal a uh appeal board released a statement on the 17th of March almost two months after announcing Senegal would forfeit the match and Morocco would be cleared 3-0 winners after an appeal from the Moroccan Football Federation. The appeal board has made up of nine people, a president, a vice president, and seven others. None of them are from Morocco or Senegal on this board, right?

SPEAKER_00 11:15

Okay, so it's not meant to be like a fair judgment.

SPEAKER_01 11:18

They're all from different African nations. The appeal board statement said Senegal I'm not gonna try to say the word. Anyway, there are two articles that they've gone against. Article 82 states that eight Article 82 and 84. Article 82 states if a team leaves the ground before the regular end of the match without the authorisation of the referee, they are eliminated. Article 83 states not uh that a team not present at the ground on time for the match will also forfeit. Article 84 states that the team the articles Yeah, if they do if yeah, so Article 84 states that if they do if the team um violate articles eighty two or eighty three, they are removed from the competition.

SPEAKER_00 12:04

So what did they allow play on? If that's the case. Referee should know that anyway, standard. That should be part of his fucking training.

SPEAKER_01 12:11

I know, but how many articles and how many things are there? Do you know what he's getting in his head? He's not gonna go, oh, this is clearly a violation of Article 82.

SPEAKER_00 12:18

I get that, but at the same time, it's it's it's something that you should fucking know. Do you know what I mean? I mean, imagine a pilot uh doing so going across some certain type of winds or whatever. But it was hang on, I know there's a rule for that, but I'm just gonna float through it fucking anywhere. It was cute. You meant to know that she would be.

SPEAKER_01 12:33

It was controversial anyway, wouldn't it? I mean, they were like the Moroccan ball boys, they were like tackling the talent. Mate, it's just I think it's fucking disqualifying from the World Cup. I'd like Carl.

SPEAKER_00 12:50

Do you know what? You don't really want to see it in football, do you? I mean, but at the same time, if as an England fan, if you've seen that, you're like, yeah, go on then, fucking get him. I don't give a fuck.

SPEAKER_01 13:01

Yeah, but we're English. I know, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:02

We're hooligans. Yeah, but do you know what I mean? If if you see some sort of fucking what do they call it, um not foul play, like what's the word?

SPEAKER_01 13:11

Tomfoolery.

SPEAKER_00 13:12

Yeah, yeah, can't let's just say with tomfoolery, I can't think of the actual word. But if it's coming from your team, you don't care, you love it. Whatever you can do to get under the other team's skin, but I think in them circumstances I think they just took the piss a bit marker. So I think it's all's fair in love and war. Fucking just leave it as it is, let's sleep in dogs loyal. In my opinion, Senegal still should should um be the winners of it all.

SPEAKER_01 13:38

I think they just fucking scrap it and say none of you're doing it. Why not? Fuck yours. Why not? Give it to Nigeria. Well didn't even qualify, did they?

SPEAKER_00 13:48

No, no, no, no. Nigeria and um Egypt was in the third. Ghana. I'm thinking of the Ghana didn't qualify. Nigeria and Egypt was the third players. I'm thinking of Ghana. Let them two playing.

SPEAKER_01 13:58

I'm thinking of Ghana, give it Ghana.

SPEAKER_00 14:00

Ghana didn't even qualify.

SPEAKER_01 14:01

Yeah, I know. But Denmark didn't qualify for Euro 92.

SPEAKER_00 14:04

And they won it.

SPEAKER_01 14:05

There you go, see.

SPEAKER_00 14:06

And they abused a fucking bam pam and and they won it by abusing a law which is now in football. Pass back law. You used to be able you they ever since when they won it, they implemented a law saying that you couldn't pass the ball back to your keeper. Pick it up. Yeah, that's what they were doing. They were playing back and playing it back to the keeper, picking it up and playing from there. Yeah, but that's that's I mean So another thing, you've got to do what you can to win a final. Look at Maradona's handball. You've got to do what you can do to win a final. Like Louis Forez. Yeah, mate, if he never saved that and it went in, they probably wouldn't have even got as far as they did. Do you know what I mean? It's fucking mental. You'll do whatever you can to see your team go through it. I just had a burp come up in my mouth. Think of the Suarez.

SPEAKER_01 14:48

No, and I I didn't like it just come up on its own. I didn't think any of it, but I just thought that might pick it up, so I'm not sure. Oh, 100%. Apologising in advance.

SPEAKER_00 14:56

But yeah, I feel like if it's your team.

SPEAKER_01 14:58

I didn't want to just sit there and I'll burp my I didn't notice. I know, yeah, but Donaldson or Carl might.

SPEAKER_00 15:05

No, yeah, of course. It's only them two that's watching anyway. But yeah, I feel like like I say, if if it's your team, you don't really give a shit, but at the same time you need to have that um gamesmanship, don't you?

SPEAKER_01 15:17

No, but there's different no, there's different. There's a di it's different, you know, to an amb ball going against shot, or VAR going against shot to the the ball boys chasing your fucking chasing and fucking man like rugby tackling your substitute goalkeeper because he's trying to keep his teammate's towel a towel standard in the goal. They took the towel off him so he couldn't draw his gloves.

SPEAKER_00 15:40

And the water bottles are doing in some games.

SPEAKER_01 15:42

Do you know what I mean? It's fucking snaky. Something weren't right with Morocco in that tournament.

SPEAKER_00 15:45

Yeah, I feel like they fought because it's in their back garden there. Do we want? Yeah. Don't work like that. Nah. Nah I agree. I think he's fucked up.

SPEAKER_01 15:53

I hope they flop at the World Cup now. Can't I like that?

SPEAKER_00 15:57

Mate, Senegal will do well. I'm telling you, they're still my dark horses. I love them. I absolutely adore them. I don't know what it is. I just think they're fucking brilliant. I like 'em as a nation. I really do. And do you know what, as melt, have you seen that uh Iran are being told that they can't compete at the World Cup? And have you seen who's in Iran's group? USA. Are they actually? Fucking Bangalore.

SPEAKER_01 16:19

Oh mate, that would have been brilliant. In the group stages. That would have been brilliant.

SPEAKER_00 16:22

So they would have played, obviously. Fucking battle would that be.

SPEAKER_01 16:25

No, the Donald Trump came out and said they shouldn't be allowed to play.

SPEAKER_00 16:28

Imagine them singing 10 uh Israelis bombers in the air or something to USA fans. No, that's absolutely yeah, I know, but imagine them just popping up and starting singing it.

SPEAKER_01 16:39

I don't think I don't I can't I don't know what the national language is of Iran. Neither do I. Right, so I'm not going to try and say something that can be considered racist when I don't need to. It's not racist, but it's just what I am gonna say is that I'm pretty sure whatever song they sing, we won't know what the words are.

SPEAKER_00 16:53

No, no, but it would be funny if in there.

SPEAKER_01 16:56

And imagine, yeah, imagine like in a different language, and you can you clearly like people and be like, are they sticking that to the rhythm where there were 10 German bombs in the air?

SPEAKER_00 17:05

Oh, I'm wrong. No, I am wrong, sorry. It says team confirmed. I could have sworn I've seen it in that. So Iran ain't even in that group, neither in New Zealand's Egypt's and Belgium's.

unknown 17:14

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 17:15

Oh good. I don't know where I've seen that. I could have sworn I've seen something about them being in the same group.

SPEAKER_01 17:19

Well, it's if they're there.

SPEAKER_00 17:21

But yeah, I don't think that'll go through. That's some Donald Trump, you he'll have his say. Do you know what I mean? Especially after he picked up the world trophy in with the Chelsea team. He's gonna have a lot of influential say with this. Do you used to say USA won't use their fucking tricks? They'll probably start playing with football's actual like their football. Yeah. This is how we play. Christian Polisic running down the ring Fucking brilliant.