From Church Drums to Diamond Records w/ Myguymars

What if your calling isn’t a pulpit but a console? Jazz sits down with her brother My Guy Mars—two-time diamond producer, musician, and lifelong PK—to trace a path where faith fuels creativity, and the studio becomes a place of ministry. From church drums at age four to a catalog of 1,500+ releases, Mars reveals how persistence, curiosity, and a fierce belief in purpose built a career with real impact.

We open up about growing up under a strict, hilarious, remix-happy pastor-dad, and the moments that shaped our grit. Mars shares why he won’t be taking over the church and why that choice doesn’t sideline faith—it reframes it. He talks about fatherhood with intention, trading fear-based routines for open conversations about God, love, and spirit. You’ll hear his origin story—pots and pans to piano in every key—and how that early exposure unlocked lifelong mastery.

Then we go deep on craft and calling. Mars breaks down “sacrifice over security,” choosing ownership and legacy over short-term safety. He shares the unfiltered truth about working with Nipsey Hussle: 6 a.m. mornings, spotless studios, candles lit, calendars tight, and an energy that brought rival corners into the same room with respect. It’s a playbook for purpose-driven work—showing up, setting tone, and letting consistency compound into influence.

There’s plenty of laughter too: sibling mischief, air-freshener whoopings, and our dad’s greatest church remixes. We even play “gospel or mainstream” to test how predictable language can blunt real power, and we question a few hymn lyrics that don’t quite add up. The thread through it all is simple and strong: two kids from the same pews found different lanes, and God’s hand shows up in both. If you’re a creative, a parent, or anyone torn between ministry and marketplace, this conversation will help you claim both with integrity.

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Transcript

Welcome Back & Guest Intro

SPEAKER_04 0:09

Because this song was just sung right now, I felt like it's only right to do it again. Ready or not, here we come. You can't hide. I don't know why. But you guys, we are super excited to be back with another episode of the PK Pod, where we all have platforms, but they may not be the pulpit. However, today's guest is called to the pulpit, huh? Ha ha! He's making a face. This is a very special guest. Um, somebody that I love dearly. Let me not get emotional. We have a legend amongst our mists. We have a diamond record producer, musician, comedian, dad, brother, Grammy Award-winning, entrepreneur, my brother, my roommate, Lamar Emman!

SPEAKER_02 1:12

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:13

Period, Pooh. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:15

It's two times diamonds.

SPEAKER_04 1:17

Uh-oh, correction.

SPEAKER_02 1:19

Okay, just in case it's a good one. Two times diamonds, period. Tell the people. What is it?

Two-Time Diamond & Awards Talk

SPEAKER_02 1:22

There's a couple Grammys and Grammy nominations in there, but that's we're not here for that.

SPEAKER_04 1:25

Oh, but we are. Oh, but we are. Two diamond.

SPEAKER_02 1:29

Yeah, two times diamond.

SPEAKER_04 1:30

Okay, so tell me about it because clearly, educate the people. What does that mean?

SPEAKER_02 1:36

That means that a record sold, not diamond. Not just one time.

SPEAKER_04 1:43

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_02 1:44

But two times.

SPEAKER_04 1:45

Nice.

SPEAKER_02 1:46

Two times diamond.

unknown 1:47

How many?

SPEAKER_02 1:48

Y'all can do the numbers.

SPEAKER_04 1:49

How many streams?

SPEAKER_02 1:50

I think it's like a million, a million um sales that makes a diamond. Or 10 million. I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 1:58

It's just a lot of millions.

SPEAKER_02 1:59

It's on Google. It's out there. Just go go.

SPEAKER_04 2:02

Somebody asked Chat GPT what it is. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_02 2:07

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_04 2:08

It's a blessing. It's a blessing. Marty Mart. The people have been wondering like, how am I going to do the PK pie that I ain't talking to my brother who is also a PK? So we got to get people what they want. I am taking all of the sister privileges. I'm just putting a disclaimer. I'm taking all of the sister privileges. I'm going to ask all the things that you guys want to know and the things that just make him squirm on a little bit and just say, why did I agree to do this? Okay. So that's the disclaimer that he's finding out in real time.

SPEAKER_02 2:38

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_04 2:39

Starting with my first question.

Marriage Timing & Faith

SPEAKER_04 2:44

Um nice. When are you getting married?

SPEAKER_02 2:48

When God um tells me. When God tells me. You know what I'm saying? I think that's the best time to do it.

SPEAKER_04 2:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:58

I think if somebody else tells you and it's not God, then it's wrong. You probably shouldn't do it.

SPEAKER_04 3:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 3:05

You know what I'm saying? And then that may lead to divorce.

SPEAKER_04 3:08

Come on.

SPEAKER_02 3:09

Because you have the wrong person to tell you to do the right thing.

SPEAKER_04 3:12

Wow.

SPEAKER_02 3:13

I'll wait for the right person to tell me to do the right thing. Or maybe I'm just, you know, not hearing as clear. I don't know. It just ain't, it ain't, it ain't got too much. We're working on it.

SPEAKER_04 3:25

The math ain't mathing yet?

SPEAKER_02 3:27

No, it ain't even the math. It's just me. You know what I'm saying? It's me.

SPEAKER_04 3:30

Me, not me.

SPEAKER_02 3:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 3:33

Me, not me yet.

SPEAKER_02 3:34

Yeah, that's what it is.

SPEAKER_04 3:35

Okay, that was the first question. The second question.

Will He Take Over Dad’s Church?

SPEAKER_04 3:38

Um, when are you taking over dad's church?

SPEAKER_02 3:41

That's not happening. I think that I can assist by doing what I've been doing in ministry, min miner ministering from where I am. You know, I think I have um a peculiar platform. It's not the same, but um we reach people and you know, touch lives through music and you know, through the message. And music is spiritual too. So, you know, being able to use our anointing and use our gift to bless other people. Um I think that's that's that's a blessing more in itself than you know just being able to reach the people that you see. You know what I'm saying? So I think being able to do both is amazing. I think it's dope that I have a father that is very adamant about going to church whenever he can and you know, saving souls, and that's amazing. And you know, I'm very adamant about um music and I frequent church when you

Ministry Through Music

SPEAKER_02 4:40

ask me to, but outside of that, you know, I have my own relationship with God and I'm able to, you know, witness and you know all of these things in the studio daily, you know. So yeah, blessed to do that.

SPEAKER_04 4:53

Since you are a father, and since our father, like you said, is very adamant about church, how has that influenced your um like how you navigate Mars learning about God and you know, developing his own relationship at a young age? Like, what's your POV on it now being a father?

SPEAKER_02 5:18

Um I'm I'm doing like the opposite of everything my dad did. Um and just in a sense of not that he did everything wrong, he only did, you know, what he could do as far as like the knowledge that he obtained from either his parents or his dad and um or experience. So uh for me it's more so taking like what I actually felt and how I felt in these moments and not wanting to do things I had to do, and um, you know, whether it gave me a

Fatherhood, Faith, And Gentle Guidance

SPEAKER_02 5:54

strong foundation or not, I feel like there were different ways to be able to do these things. So I'm able to um just allow him to be expressive and you know, more so just let me know what he wants to do, opposed to like me forcing him to do stuff, you know. Um like we don't, it's not like uh every Sunday we get up and go to church or you know, but we talk about God, we talk about, you know, um love, we talk about everything, you know, spirit. Like he's very, you know, he's very smart and very inquisitive. So um I think that wouldn't even happen if he was scared to talk to me. You know what I'm saying? So um, yeah, I I think just being able to like implement things that I've learned from our parents, but do it in in a different way. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 6:38

Love that. Okay, so y'all probably don't know that my brother plays a lot of instruments. Um, a lot of people only know you for being this amazing producer that you are. Um but can you tell us like your origin story on how like you even got the interest into like playing your first instrument? Like what that was like. Because if I recall correctly, I believe you was banging on pots and pans at a young age. Um, and then as you got older, like dad laid his hands on you and prayed for you or something like that?

SPEAKER_02 7:17

Yeah, dad lays his hands on everybody. I think what I think what was um, I think the thing that like uh allowed my parents to see that um, you know, that they should like invest or you know, have me around uh music, I think it was because I was just naturally uh passionate about it. Like it was it was innate, you know what I'm saying? Like at three years old, at four years old, you're not supposed to have like rhythm, especially back then. We didn't

Origin Story: Drums, Piano, Church

SPEAKER_02 7:46

have as many devices and things to keep you on track and logic and fruity loops, and you know, it was just church and if you knew a studio, you know? So being able to um, you know, set up my own drum set, that's basically what I was doing. Like, you know, and a lot of people have done that. Books, pots, whatever you can get, Tupperware, you just and then eventually my mom is, you know, mad because I'm beating on her stuff. She like, you need to buy him a drum set. He like, he only three years old, he don't need no drum set, like, you know. And then we get to the toy drum set, then I mess that up because I'm playing for real with the real sticks. Then he get mad, like, see, he don't need no drum set. And then my mom is like, no, he needs a real one. And he like, he only four years old, you know. So it goes into the, you know, mom kind of like invest in my son, and it's like, I see what he's doing, but are you sure? You know what I'm saying? I think you find just at the church, just let him play the drums, you know what I'm saying? It's that opposed to like actually them being able to say, you know what, let me let us buy him uh something where he can like develop his gift. You know, and I think that's where it started. And if they didn't do that, I would have only had the exposure that I had, you know what I'm saying? That's only being at church. So yeah, I was able to practice and you know, get very good, do my first recording at like eight or nine or something, playing the drums. Then dad had a piano, so I would just play on the piano every time he left. Then he caught me one time and was like, would you play on the piano? And it's like, if I lie, I'm gonna get whooped. So I'm like, yeah, like, you know? And he's like, come on, let me teach you something. I'm like, and that was that was like the beginning of that. He taught me one song. He said, If I can learn what it what a mighty God we serve, and and every key, then he'll teach me more chords.

SPEAKER_04 9:35

And was it really What a Mighty God We Serve?

SPEAKER_02 9:37

Yeah. He said, if you can play What a Mighty God We Serve in one key, you can play any song. And he said, You gotta you gotta play it. He taught me an F sharp, and he was like, You gotta transpose it and figure out how to play, play it in all the rest of the keys. Once you figure out that, then I'll teach you more.

unknown 9:55

Wow.

SPEAKER_02 9:56

Never tell me more. But I learned what a mighty guy we serve.

SPEAKER_04 10:01

You learned and you figured it out. That's crazy. I didn't know that. Okay. Um, I don't think people realize that our dad, although he was a very um, his ways were very, his tactics for disciplining us was very um, pause.

SPEAKER_02 10:18

You ain't gonna get off, you ain't gonna get off that easy. Me disciplining me. I was the I was the example. She was smart enough to see like, he did that and he looks like that. I'm not doing that, you know?

SPEAKER_04 10:33

How many whoopings have I gotten like with dad total? I think it was one.

SPEAKER_02 10:40

I was about to say maybe two.

SPEAKER_04 10:42

Yeah, I think it was. I think it was literally, I remember one, and this is crazy. This so me and Lamar, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 10:55

Was we in a car?

SPEAKER_04 10:56

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 10:57

Was it the car, the car, the, the, uh McDonald's? Yeah. Was it the uh

Discipline Stories & Strict Parenting

SPEAKER_01 11:02

air freshener?

unknown 11:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 11:07

We will get in trouble for the silliest things. Like, that's the disclaimer. Okay, disclaimer. We will get in trouble for the silliest things. And I think you know how like they say you should fear God? We feared our our father more than God at that age because he just was just like, you do not want to cross that man. And so we are literally in the drive-thru at McDonald's, and Lamar had decided to spray.

SPEAKER_02 11:36

No, it was in the parking lot.

SPEAKER_04 11:37

Was it the parking lot?

SPEAKER_02 11:38

Yeah, we because he he uh walked in.

SPEAKER_04 11:40

Oh, yeah, he was.

SPEAKER_02 11:41

If we was in the driveway, he wouldn't have been, you know, he had to walk out. So he walked, we he walked in. I mean, he walked to McDonald's to get us something. It was like 39 cent cheeseburgers or something. He walked in there to get us some, and then I'm just I I have no like, I can't do nothing but church. And I think that's the thing. Like, I that's why I enjoy Mars having so much fun. It's like him just playing with blocks and just little stuff. I just be like, my God, like I didn't have this when I when you was younger. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like I did, but I didn't. So, you know, but yeah, long story short, it was just fun to just do stuff. You know, we had to make up our own thing. So we just in the car just trying to find stuff. I see an air freshener. I'm like, Jasmine, spray the air freshener. No, you don't, no, I ain't spraying the air freshener. Like, I just want to see what it smells like. We spray the air freshener, dad coming out. We put it away, like we did something crazy, incriminating, and then he walks in there like, all right, we got the cheat. Who's who sprayed the air freshener? No, no, nobody wants to say nothing. I don't want to say nothing because I feel I'm scared.

SPEAKER_04 12:47

And I don't want to say nothing because I'm scared.

SPEAKER_02 12:50

So we both got in trouble, and I think she was taking one for the team. I was like, okay, you really my sister. She like, she ain't snitching. I'm like, okay. But I was looking at her like, you better not snitch. And I don't know why. It's like so. Just we just spray air freshener.

SPEAKER_04 13:05

Like, why do we get a whooping for spraying air freshener? We will never understand.

SPEAKER_02 13:12

My dad is gonna say he don't remember that.

SPEAKER_04 13:14

He's gonna say he doesn't remember when we bring him on the file. He's gonna be like, I didn't do that. You definitely did, but I remember. He said, Y'all go, get, y'all go in Lamar's room and get on your knees. So I'm like, I'm like trying to pray, like, all right, we just need to pray, like you know, everything's gonna be okay. He came in there, he hit, he, he swing that belt one time to spank me. I said, Lamar did it. He said, he said, All right, Lamar. Have a good night, baby. And you looked at me like how could you?

SPEAKER_02 13:44

My own flesh and my flesh, blood of my blood.

SPEAKER_04 13:47

Baby, it wasn't worth taking that for the team. And I think that was the only time that I have been disciplined by my father. And I think it's interesting because like when I talk to a lot of parents nowadays, like, I don't know how mom and dad came up with that arrangement of like, like the man will discipline the boy, and you know, the woman will discipline the girl, but it worked out in my favor.

SPEAKER_03 14:07

Yeah, it did.

SPEAKER_04 14:08

I'm here to tell the story. Listen, me and mom, I love that woman.

SPEAKER_02 14:13

Yeah, I love her too. I wouldn't be here if it wasn't for her, literally.

SPEAKER_04 14:18

Listen, that I don't think people know that you are really like a soul, like you, soul the soul music was like your jam. Like he enjoyed, like Bilau was like his one of his favorite artists. D'Angelo. I'll never forget y'all. Before Diddy was invested in Johnson and Johnson baby oil, there was Lamar Edwards because the Angelo, but D'Angelo.

SPEAKER_02 14:48

Time out.

SPEAKER_04 14:49

No, because D'Angelo's video, How Does It Feel, with him all breezed up? This boy literally tried to reenact that video. I don't think people know that you really tried to reenact that video of like, how does it feel? And that resulted in you getting in trouble too. You were so punishment.

SPEAKER_02 15:08

No, but no baby, that wasn't no baby oil. That was no baby oil. Okay, but we're gonna say the back. You're talking about the wine. You're talking about the wine.

SPEAKER_04 15:16

But you did it too.

SPEAKER_02 15:17

Talking

Soul Music Influences & Early Inspirations

SPEAKER_02 15:18

about the wine and John and them.

SPEAKER_04 15:20

I thought you would did it too.

SPEAKER_02 15:21

Like going in my memory, like, mm-hmm, I didn't do that.

SPEAKER_04 15:24

But no, he was really, really, really like into like black, soul, soul, music soul child, Glenn Lewis, Glenn Lewis, all the greats.

SPEAKER_02 15:33

Like uh flowetry, what Marsha Ambrose is. Who you later ended up working with, which is and Glenn Lewis and Music.

SPEAKER_04 15:41

You worked with all of them.

SPEAKER_02 15:42

Yeah, except for D'Angelo. I I got to meet him and play basketball at Raphael Sadig Studio, which was very hilarious, but yeah.

SPEAKER_04 15:50

That's crazy. Um, okay, so now I gotta think of something else. Okay, what y'all don't know about my my sibling is that he is very mischievous.

SPEAKER_02 15:58

Nice.

SPEAKER_04 16:00

As kids, he was very, like you said, like he wanted to play with things. He was very mischievous. Our father, as you probably can tell, he was a very strict parent. Um, and he had his own set of snacks in the house that we were not to touch. Lamar was very creative with finding ways to touch the snacks. And he taught me how to drink Minnie Made lemonade. Y'all know how Minnie Made comes in the, you know, the box. He taught me how to slightly open the pulp, but not fully open it, to take a swig and then just put the top back on. Like, y'all don't know that that, like, he literally, I mean, it was like mind blow until our dad one day went in and picked up and it was empty.

SPEAKER_00 16:48

It's like off a little bit more than we can shoot.

SPEAKER_04 16:51

We would go in there like every day after school and just take a swig and put it, like, put it back, put it back. Like, he was very creative with ways to just get around things. Like, I don't think people know that your creativity goes beyond music, but you just think creatively.

SPEAKER_02 17:06

No facts. Yeah. That's crazy. There's something wrong with me. I know it though, so it's okay. I just keep praying for me.

SPEAKER_04 17:15

Um, okay, you answer.

SPEAKER_02 17:17

Something y'all don't know about my sibling. Um let's see. Something you don't know about my sibling is that one thing is she's like, well, she was terrified of animals, like, especially dogs and and the ones you shouldn't be, like the ones you see all the time. Like,

Mischief, Creativity, And Growing Up PK

SPEAKER_02 17:40

she just keeps being scared, like it's the first time every time.

SPEAKER_04 17:43

So um But you didn't tell them that I got literally like attacked by a dog.

SPEAKER_02 17:50

Yeah, no, I I didn't tell him that part. I just wanted to tell them the part that I'm telling them of how you're terrified about the animal. So uh we had this dog named Samson. Uh, my cousin David and Dewan, my cousin David rest in peace. We had this, they had this dog named Samson. He was like probably like 89. Like, he was a dog that you just he just old, he just there. Long story short, we would tell Jasmine, as soon as the parents leave, they would be like, all right, we're about to feed you the Samson. And she would just be so terrified, like, no. We start taking out the mustard and relish and just start taking out condiments in the pot, in the big old pot, and they start running water and stuff, and she just be going crazy. Like, no, open up the door and let the Samson start walking in. And Samson is more scared of Jasmine than she's scared of him. He's looking like she's screaming, he don't want to be in the vibe. I just I just think that was something that she probably won't tell you that I had to tell you. We had condiments, like that's how that's how creative we were. Like, this was the 90s. It was no, like, we didn't see this on YouTube, nothing. We were just really creative. Like, no, we're both.

SPEAKER_04 19:03

That's trauma.

SPEAKER_02 19:03

No, that's that's genius.

SPEAKER_04 19:05

Like, take the pots out and condiments, and y'all put me in the pot, and y'all really did take me outside. That's not funny. That's that's why I am terrified of dogs to this day, because they literally led me to believe that a dog was gonna eat. Hey boy, come on, Samson. Here's your lunch. Come on, boy.

SPEAKER_01 19:25

He's just looking like, what are y'all doing?

SPEAKER_04 19:28

So y'all know the root of why I am not an animal lover to this day is because of the trauma I experienced.

SPEAKER_02 19:35

Yeah, so she would like a canine for Christmas.

SPEAKER_04 19:39

I absolutely not like a canine at all. Wow, that's a good one. Okay.

Game: Gospel Or Mainstream?

SPEAKER_02 19:44

Um sibling stories.

SPEAKER_04 19:46

Sibling stories. I'm gonna play a game with you. And this game is called, it's very creative, the name. Nice. He that has an ear.

SPEAKER_00 19:56

Okay. Ain't heard that before.

SPEAKER_04 19:59

Because you are a musician and a producer, but I also know that you um listen to a lot of different music. I want you to listen to snippets of these songs and tell me if they're mainstream or if they're faith-based songs, just by like hearing.

SPEAKER_02 20:17

Is this gospel?

SPEAKER_04 20:18

Faith-based can be, we can call it gospel, Christian. Oh my god. You gotta be able to decipher if the song is gospel or not, okay? And I'm gonna just play little sippets, little snippets of it, and then you tell me what you think it is, okay?

SPEAKER_02 20:36

Sure, yeah. This is outside of my, you know.

SPEAKER_04 20:39

Yeah, he that has an ear. This is what we're calling this. Okay, because I just feel like this would be entertaining too to do. Um, okay. Our first song. I gotta make it good, cuz it's not gonna be 90s gospel.

SPEAKER_02 20:53

That's all I know.

SPEAKER_04 20:55

It's not it's not gonna be 90s gospel, but I'm gonna make sure that it's uh I'm gonna just we just gonna see what you what you're doing. Okay, I'm gonna turn it up so you can hear it. Alright.

SPEAKER_02 21:16

This sounds like uh a song. This sounds like uh uh inspirational song that's trying to be RB.

SPEAKER_04 21:25

It sounds like an inspirational song that's trying to be RB.

SPEAKER_02 21:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 21:28

Nice.

SPEAKER_02 21:29

Is that not what it is?

SPEAKER_04 21:30

Yep, that's exactly what it is. That was Can't Get Enough by Aja Walls.

SPEAKER_02 21:34

I like to call her baby brandy because she has I ain't really get into it that much.

SPEAKER_04 21:40

She got that brandy under top.

SPEAKER_02 21:43

Yeah, so on the type.

SPEAKER_04 21:47

Yeah. Aja Walls from the Walls group. Okay, look at you. You already winning. He's doing good. He that has an ear. Okay, let me get you a uh a better song, huh? Um, we got make it a little more challenging now. Okay, I'm gonna go here.

SPEAKER_02 22:08

Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_04 22:09

Oh God.

SPEAKER_02 22:10

Blow me up. Blow me up with the gospel.

SPEAKER_04 22:12

Let me see what I can what I can.

SPEAKER_02 22:15

What's gonna say, was that Biggie?

SPEAKER_04 22:17

It was all a dream. That is not Biggie, you nut. Okay, let's see me go.

SPEAKER_02 22:23

I saw him in my dreams.

SPEAKER_04 22:25

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 22:37

That's that's like a regular song.

SPEAKER_04 22:40

That's a regular song, mainstream?

SPEAKER_02 22:42

Yeah. Well I don't know if it's mainstream, but but it's regular. It's not that's not not a regular song. That's not a a gospel song. I wouldn't like to think that's a gospel song.

SPEAKER_04 22:53

Okay. Um is it? You're wrong. Yeah. Nice. That's a gospel song. It's called Strawberry Worship. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yep, yep, yep.

SPEAKER_02 23:03

He said, I'm on my way to see you.

SPEAKER_04 23:05

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_02 23:07

He going to heaven?

SPEAKER_04 23:11

You gotta listen to the song. You gotta listen to the song to hear. Okay, all right. So we won for we won for one, one of two.

SPEAKER_02 23:17

Um thanks whoever wrote that.

SPEAKER_04 23:20

Yes. That was a good one. Uh let me go to my way to see you is crazy. I know. It's you know sometimes sometimes I'm gonna trick people not on my way to see you.

SPEAKER_02 23:40

I'm on my way to see God. You give me life to say gospel why?

SPEAKER_04 24:03

Because it said what?

SPEAKER_02 24:04

Bless like outside of the one where my guy said I'm on my way to see you it's like most of the gospel songs they use words that you would say in church or like you know or like um you know certain like terms like there was you know I'm saying like not even just blessings like but just like it'll be like a scripture or something that we didn't heard like all of our lives and it's like I wouldn't say that I know this is gospel. You know?

SPEAKER_04 24:35

Yeah but I feel like people are start are trying to get creative but I understand what you're saying. Like they can't veer they can't veer away from it.

SPEAKER_02 24:41

Like like the traditional

Gospel Writing, Language, And Creativity

SPEAKER_02 24:43

like you know I'm saying like when people say something I don't know somebody say something like now I seen brighter what now I seen brighter days because you washed away my sins and it's like like I yeah you're right but it's like I didn't we didn't heard that since the 90s so it's like when you hear that you know like ah this is it's not as compelling to supposed to go out into the world and compare the hearts of me. So yeah.

SPEAKER_04 25:13

So we need to get creative with our writing got it that's what you said.

SPEAKER_02 25:17

Got it that's basically what he's trying to say I just can't decipher when I I could tell when it's gospel and and is like the most the majority of the time I could tell when it's gospel.

SPEAKER_04 25:26

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 25:27

And I love the what you're doing because you um bring in insight to the people that are gospel that do it in a creative way. So it's fire.

SPEAKER_04 25:36

Alright last one you let it play too long I let it play too long but before that what were you about to say?

SPEAKER_02 25:57

I was like that's definitely like just a re that's just a a song like I wouldn't think that's a gospel song.

SPEAKER_04 26:03

I like to call him uh baby's pop smoke don't he sound like pop smoke?

SPEAKER_02 26:08

No maybe not too much maybe if I heard it on the speakers or something I can get the essence of your tone or what you're talking about but just from the phone I don't know it sounds more like like future ish future somewhere around there. That's Alex Gene uh he's a really dope like rapper slash singer a little bit like some of these people like I've like I've um I don't know if it's these artists particularly but every now and again like I'll listen to um the gospel station on um serious and then they'll play like you know stuff like this and when I see something fire I'm like I'm going right to my DMs like yo like this fire we should work.

SPEAKER_04 26:53

So I've hit up like you know a few people uh in the industry you know that make gospel music and they're doing like really fire things yeah do you know how many people stop me and be like oh your brother is Mars your mother man I'll be in I'll be in they you know they they musician talk me and I just be like yeah um but I think people assume because of the caliber of artists that you work

His Gospel Credits And Collaborations

SPEAKER_04 27:18

with that you wouldn't be interested in working with them you know the gospel artists gospel artists um yeah that's crazy I think they assume that yeah well y'all ain't doing your homework yeah do your homework champ so you heard it here first he is no respectable person I did what did I what did I do I did that song with um Clark Kent yeah I did that song rest in peace Lashawn Daniels uh I forgot what it's called uh oh my god yeah oh my god you did oh my god by uh Clark Kent yep definitely produced oh my god and um there is oh it's a song on I I produced a song for Mary Mary um I don't know what it's called it was a long time ago no it was I think it was like the second or third um I forget it's out there just type in my guy Mars or Mars Mary Mary it's out there and then um the uh the song with Love 'em like I do I was a part of that song with Dietrich and Ruben Stutter.

SPEAKER_02 28:23

Shout out to Warren I I was signed to Warren and he uh helped like you know mentor and um you know show me like tell me a lot of things of what not to do um so yeah like being up being able to like learn from him and be a part of those records was was really dope. But yeah I worked with Mary Mary uh you know yeah the great few yeah a few gospel artists your dad you have worked with our dad yes you have my dad my my dad put out an album in 1988 and it was under Lamar Records which was my record company that I didn't know I had at four years old. So it's crazy. Yeah so I've technically been making gospel records since 1988.

SPEAKER_04 29:09

And that's big that's the year I was born period okay so I think another thing that people don't know about you is that you've never really had a nine to five yeah no like ever in life meanwhile I've

Passion, Purpose, And No 9–5

SPEAKER_04 29:24

been out here got me got me working day and night I think people don't realize that and I think that is so amazing that you've never had to do like you knew like what you was called to do from such a young age that you literally was like I'm doing this straight out of high school like you was on the path and like no turning back. You never wavered from it it's been music music and I think that's to be commended because you've been consistent with what you knew you were called to do from day one.

SPEAKER_02 29:52

No yeah for sure I um thank you but I think like the thing is um sometimes we get distracted from like what we are really passionate about and sometimes your passion isn't the same thing as your purpose. So like it just happened for me. Like I'll just happen to be passionate about something I later found out was my purpose you know I'm saying and in the purpose of living a life that outlives me is why I can look back on 20 years of professionally doing music and have over 1500 songs literally out in the world and work with over X amount of people and it's not about the um accolades more than it is the influence and the legacy because now I'm showing an example you know saying of what can be done with just like operating in faith. Was no manager wasn't no you know system not signing the epic records, Interscope, none of that it was just you know being consistent and um allowing God to order my steps and just like you know stepping out on faith. And I always say sacrifice over security and I think that's what it is. A lot of people like are like yeah but my bills is gonna be here on this day and I I need to make sure I I think because my dad is just so like almost like it's like he's almost blind he has so much faith.

SPEAKER_03 31:19

You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 31:19

Like sometimes he doesn't see like like what's really here because he like no but God is telling me this and it's like okay God is telling us we're gonna have we're gonna we're gonna come into this big old ocean but we thirsty right now and we in the desert like you know what I'm saying he like but just you know so having that like vision and that uh clarity and that discernment and knowing that you can manifest these things I think that um is very important but a lot of times the distraction gets in the way because we want to be secure so we like all right well let's go you know build somebody else dreams let's go you know you're not thinking of it like that but it's like yo let me go do this and work over here so I can get this check and you're only getting as much as you work for opposed to you know you working in you know right here right now somebody's playing some song right now while we're talking right now that I've been a part of you know what I'm saying so being able to plant a lot of seeds and being able to like minister through people to people through the music as well it just again happened to be passion and purpose you know so yeah I think for everybody that's out there if it's something that you passionate about or it's something that you had on your heart like it's never too late to start I think you just have to do a lot of it and be as consistent as possible and like with your consistency God will you know bring the right people around and you know um allow your your vision to come into fruition.

SPEAKER_04 32:47

Yeah yeah you got to work with Nipsey Hussle you got to literally be a part of I want to say his legacy and so much of what we hear now and songs and things like you were a part of that.

SPEAKER_02 33:04

But I think people don't really talk about like beyond beyond the fact that he was an amazing human being right beyond the fact of you know him being known for just being a great guy but like what are some like fun things like do you have a funny moment that you share with Nip that people don't know about

Sacrifice Over Security: Career Philosophy

SPEAKER_02 33:24

yeah I mean we was together every day we had a studio together so and then we were his first and last band and he was my first artist so um I think like one of the funniest things um I think one of the funniest things that I reflect on and people don't know is like Nip is like so like OCD like he's he gotta have everything like perfect. Like he be wanting to clean up and you know so he'll wake up every morning probably like if it don't matter what time you go to sleep he waking up six seven in the morning like I normally do but I'll wake up and then go back to sleep. And we at the studio I'll wake lay back down on the couch. And then you just hear Nip like ah he just wake up at the top of the morning like ah let's go let's go it's time to top of the hustle let's go let's go let's go and I'm like come on Morris come learn something and he'll be at up at eight in the morning watching documentaries or before he go take Monty to school come back have the whole studio clean candles lit everything is you know I'm saying now he ready to you know I'm saying get to the music and it's just like he he's he gave that energy of like you know championing like what people should feel or if it's something that was already there like you know I'm saying he'll like he'll feel like where you at you know I'm saying like just as far as like spirit or vibe or you know I'm saying and he'll be able to know like how to you know uh uplift you or say something motivational or say something funny or say something you know what I'm saying like and I think that was that was so dope because I you would see people that would never be in a room together because they were from different sections or different sides or whatever and you know the respect for Hustle was so like you know prominent that it it made people just you know come from different walks of life you know I'm saying so yeah I think that like him being like kind of funny you know I'm saying just like when he joked with us is like one of the main things but yeah just he was like very OCD like being like you know clean up every single thing and make sure the calendar and he got everything written out and this is coming out on this date and this is coming out on this date and it's like wait that's my song how that's coming out y'all ain't even got the files and like you better hurry up and give it to Nip because it's coming out on that date. Like you know he was real like you know on top of everything that he wanted to do he'll he would execute it you know what I'm saying so yeah that's that's one of the main things for sure I don't think people would think that about a gangster or you know say all of these things that he came from but ended up being an incredible businessman father brother you know I'm saying everything you know entrepreneur um fashion icon you got Jay Z walking around with his sweats up and the high socks trying to look like Nip like you know I'm saying it's just so much influence from our culture as well as just him as a person I don't think people realize that dad was like the king of remixes yeah before Kanye and everybody before Kanye there was Cliff okay I was doing that see Lamar you should have put my album out tell Kanye to call me like I don't tell Kanye to call me that's crazy but okay what was like your favorite remix of like we're gonna turn the devil out and like now that I say it it's like why do you want to turn the devil out it sounds weird to say but we I would be singing it at the top of my lungs like what and wait what was the original song though uh Parliament we want the fun we want the fun he said we want to pray in Jesus' name in his holy name oh we love the press we're gonna turn the devil out then it was like I'm gonna see it I'm gonna see it oh my god that is crazy that okay I didn't realize yeah that one was good my favorite one was um bust the rhyme oh my goodness put me in e flat Lamar put me in e flat do do do do what was it can I do my dance do your dance if you really voting appraise with me how to whole hands it was an experience you know you got to being at my dad's I was talking to Buster Ryan's one time and I was like yeah boom I was talking to or I was talking to my dad and I was with Buster Rines and I'm like oh yeah dad I'm with Buster Ryan boom like put them on the phone put them on the phone my Buster Ryan's so generous and like yo yo king da da da da blah you know your son is amazing and da da da yeah I I knew it I knew it when he was the

Nipsey Hussle: Routine, Leadership, Legacy

SPEAKER_02 38:47

I told him I prayed over him I prayed over him and I knew it was gonna happen I knew it was gonna happen Buster like you know I used to do your song back in the day all right dad we got we gotta get out of yeah I used to say if you really want to praise we need to see we need to do that remix my goodness grace oh my god my dad is the king of remixes like yo that is etched in my soul like I'll never forget that no facts and we had the like we had the best experiences like I've legitimately like I've never seen no you don't get it I'm saying like it's things I've never seen at no other church other than my other than my dad's church like like I never seen a lady that comes in with a mug like a whole thermos like a like a big thermos and she come in with a big thermos every every church service and in the middle of the service she just at any time just take a little sip nobody ever asked what was in it nobody bothered her she was the only one that could have that thermos I'm like this is crazy like in the middle of the service just y'all turn to me with y'all turn the page she got the big thermos she going like what is what is what is mama drinking what is it getting turned up in the church going crazy man everything happened in the church man I just you learn how to deal with people you know what I'm saying and that's why I'm proud of my sister because there's not too many things that you don't see when you're in church you know saying it's different personalities it's people being jealous why you got to be the praise and worship leader why you gotta sing alto why you gotta play the keys why you gotta be the usher why you gotta be a saint it's like you're gonna be jealous that we the same thing like it gets it gets to a point where you just you know you got to know how to go to church for what you need you know I'm saying and you know kind of filter out all the rest of the things but yeah church is a wonderful place it is one of the most comedic places in the world too yes yes thank you brother for stopping by no problem man anytime anytime stopping by I don't know why it takes so long but you know you was busy you was touring you was you was out the country you was one time yeah you were no tourists you were you were busy it was hard to nail nail down your calendar all right um but I'm so glad that we were able to just like reminisce and chat and let people into our world absolutely and really just to highlight the fact that you can literally be from the same household and have different um purpose and different paths and God can use you in different industries and light.

SPEAKER_04 41:52

You don't have to have a mirroring thing to say that you know God's hand is on you. God's hand can be on you whether in ministry or the marketplace. And so I just love that from both of our experiences that people know that you know we literally like ain't nothing but God from looking at both of us. I love that about us. And um I'm proud of you. I'm so proud of you.

SPEAKER_02 42:15

Thank you. You're getting old doc but I'm proud of you I think like maybe like another 20 yeah I take that okay all right you're still young you're still young. Yeah I'm feeling great.

SPEAKER_04 42:27

You're thriving.

SPEAKER_02 42:28

I do have a question and I this is for like you and for everybody. We could just leave on this note if you want. So um you know as you grow up you just start just like reminiscing on things and like dang what does this mean when you know when I was younger like scriptures or songs I still don't get um victory is mine. Like I still I st I still somebody gotta help me with that I still don't get it. The song? Yeah like we walk it down let's walk it down so victory is mine. That's cool. Victory is mine told me that already Victory today is mine. So not not yesterday or tomorrow right and then I told Satan why are we talking to Satan get the behind why is he in front of me victory only today just for today only just today we got a sale on victory today only. Somebody help me with that y'all y'all do it in the comments please help us. Because I don't I just is I still don't get it I need to know who wrote the song I'm running for my life I can keep going if anybody asks you what's the matter with me tell them I'm saved sanctified Holy Ghost filled five baptized I got Jesus on my mind I'm running for my life why are you running for you running from you if you saved then you got all these things you equipped with I'm Superman but I'm running I don't know it don't do it it's not the math's not math then I don't know these are this that's

SPEAKER_04 44:00

Actually, a a really great question.

SPEAKER_02 44:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 44:02

We need answers. I don't have those answers.

SPEAKER_02 44:06

Somebody help me with victory is mine.

SPEAKER_04 44:08

Somebody help with victory is mine. Wow. Well, we'll ending on that note. Thank you for stopping by the pod.

SPEAKER_02 44:14

Um My God Mars Everything. M Y G U Y M A R S and God loves you and I do too.

SPEAKER_04 44:23

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