Don't Let These Rookies Fall with Derek Brown

Can you believe drafters are sleeping on these guys?

Knowing which rookies have a realistic path to playing time can turn a late-round pick or a waiver claim into real dynasty equity. Yet, many managers are letting these guys fall down the draft board. After this episode, you'll know exactly which 2026 rookies to grab before your leaguemates figure it out. Derek Brown, senior analyst at FantasyPros, joins Jeff Blaylock to dive deep into the 2026 rookie class and surface the late-round rookie picks dynasty managers should be drafting while their league mates draft less impactful players. From Chase Roberts and Bryce Lance to Oscar Delp, Eli Raridon, and Matthew Hibner, this is the episode for managers hunting first-round talent with fourth and fifth-round picks.

💡 Key Takeaways

• Path to playing time is the key to deciding which late-round rookie is worth drafting.
• DBro's favorite WR sleepers include Chase Roberts, CJ Daniels, Eric Rivers and Kevin Coleman Jr., who he calls "South Beach Jayden Reed."
• Bryce Lance is available in the third and fourth round of rookie drafts despite ranking sixth in yards per route run among all FBS and FCS receivers last year — DBro sees a Christian Watson 2.0 with a clear path to starting in New Orleans.
• High-end athleticism at tight end is a prerequisite for dynasty value, not just a bonus. DBro won't draft a TE who runs a 4.8 40 or slower.
• Oscar Delp and Eli Raridon, DBro's two most undervalued players in this class, are falling to the third and fourth round of rookie drafts when both could be long-term starting tight ends.
• DBro is most excited about tight ends in the fifth round and beyond of rookie drafts. He's targeting Seydou Traore, Matthew Hibner and Jaren Kanak.
• Seth McGowan, one of DBro's favorite late-round RBs, is worth drafting as a potential RB2 in Indy, and Eli Heidenreich is a late-round RB who might end up as a starting slot receiver.
• DBro is fading Demond Claiborne and Adam Randall despite the buzz, citing contact avoidance and poor tackle-breaking metrics that don't match the hype.
• Cole Payton is DBro's sleeper quarterback pick for Superflex leagues, while Haynes King is the waiver wire name to stash.

⏱️ Chapters/Timestamps

00:00 – Introduction
08:12 – Finding first-round talent with late-round picks
14:31 – WRs: Chase Roberts & Bryce Lance
23:17 – Kevin Coleman Jr. and the Miami Dolphins' WR mess
28:04 – "TikTok footwork," contested catch rate, and what actually translates
36:04 – CJ Daniels & Eric Rivers
42:34 – TEs: Athleticism as a filter
48:17 – Oscar Delp & Eli Raridon
55:13 – Matt Hibner & Jaren Kanak
01:02:54 – RBs: Seth McGowan & Eli Heidenreich
01:10:44 – QBs: Cole Payton & Haynes King in Superflex
01:15:57 – DBro's round-by-round final picks

🔗 Links Mentioned

• FantasyPros 
• FP's YouTube Dynasty Channel 
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• Jeff's Dynasty Rankings at Footballguys
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• Dynasty Compass website 

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Transcript

Jeff: Rookie draft season is well underway, and if you're someone who listens to a dynasty-themed podcast, you're probably in at least one league the draft goes four, maybe five, possibly even six rounds deep. Well, I've got Derek Brown from FantasyPros here today to do just that, go very deep down the rookie draft pool to see those gems that you're gonna wanna draft in rounds four, five, and even six.

And even if your draft doesn't go that deep, these are the waiver wire gems to be looking out for right now, and that's next on Dynasty Compass.

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Jeff: Welcome to Dynasty Compass. I am your host, Jeff Blaylock. Joining me today, the one and only DBro, Derek Brown from FantasyPros. So awesome to have you here, uh, with me today to talk about the really deep sleeper kinds of guys way down on draft boards, 'cause I'm in some sicko dynasty leagues where we have five and six-round rookie drafts.

So this is the show if you've got that kind of league, because DBro's gonna be diving deep, uh, and telling us which gems we should be spending our fifth-round draft capital on. DBro, thanks a lot for coming, man. How you doing?

DBro: Oh, dude, I'm so glad we set this up. Uh, it's been a long time coming. I know we talked about it at Expo and stuff, and just trying to... You know, honestly, this is more me than you as far as, like, getting my schedule to line up with life and kids and everything in between, dude. No, but, I, you know, we're gonna go deep on this class and, uh, I mean, I don't know, man.

Like, I'm a sicko. I love going, like, talking about all these deeper prospects, man. I just, I think this is the meat and potatoes where you find the Jalen Cokers of the world and what have you, so...

Jeff: Before we get into it, why don't you, uh, let everybody know where they, where you are, where they find you. Although if you're watching this broadcast or listening to it on, uh, on Apple or Spotify, your favorite platform, you probably know who DBro is. Otherwise you wouldn't have found me, 'cause I, I am a lot more obscure.

But, uh, anyway, DBro, let them know where you are.

DBro: Hey, man, we're all just guys trying to be dudes out here. I'm obscure as well, my friend. But yeah, everything's over at FantasyPros. You can find me on pretty much any social platform @DBro_FFB. Uh, look for the, the cartoon avi. That's what you'll be seeing, um, if you're looking for me. No pictures of my face.

The cartoon avi does not age, although I do, so.

Jeff: Oh, I've been told many times I have a face for radio, so I hear

DBro: Same. Same. I get two consistent comments. One, I have radio face. Two, I have a punchable face. So it all just, it all just comes down to, you know, uh, I'm probably better in a podcast format.

Jeff: Uh, well, let's, let's just dive into it 'cause we got, we got some, some depth to get to here really quickly. You know, a lot of analysts when they're looking at rookies, they kind of stop at around 35, 40, 50 at most because that's where most, most drafts are gonna end for, uh, for dynasty managers or, or for, for redraft.

But you go a lot deeper than that. I mean, what, what motivates you to really kind of get into the depths of rookies and look at guys who probably aren't gonna be NFL draft picks and certainly not dynasty picks?

DBro: I mean, I, I, I just really love over the last, uh, three to four years, the more, uh, well, the deeper I've gotten into rookie evaluation and dynasty and things like that, I j- I just love the due diligence of it. I love going through watching film. I love writing up players, and I love going deep and stuff like that because we do get some guys that pop out of the weeds, you know, like Jalen Cokers of the world and stuff where, you know, they, they come out of like small schools and they do some big things or they're fantasy relevant, you know?

So I, I-- The other thing about it is, like you're talking about, Jeff, like people are in a number of leagues and whether this is like, you know, 14 team, 16 team leagues, uh, t- leagues where there are five and six round, um, or they have like just ginormous like rosters or taxi squads. And I feel like, you know, one, you don't see a lot of content out there covering all these deeper players.

Two, there are players that do pop out of the woodwork and it's like everybody's like, "Oh, well where, where did they come from?" And it's like, well, if you're following a lot of people that do content on these players or deeper dives and stuff like that, then maybe you get ahead of the curve because th- we all know that like dynasty, part of it is like, yes, hitting on your picks, making good trades, all that kind of stuff.

It's also grinding the edges. Like if you could turn in a guy where you pick him up off the waiver wire and he becomes anything out of that, and you flip that for a late, like a third round pick. All of these small equity gains do add up and they can make the difference for you on the v- the short and long term in dynasty.

And yeah, like I got my top 100, it's out there live on fantasypros.com. This is the third year in a row that I've done it, and so writing up 100 skill players. This is no defense, no offensive line, noth- none of that stuff. It's all fantasy relevant. So it's all quarterbacks, running backs, wide receivers, and tight ends.

Jeff: Yeah. A-and I, I think that depth is really something. I mean, you've gotta really sort of dig into it to find these guys, because the last thing you really want to have is to, uh, have somebody appear out of nowhere a-and, like, you see it's all there. I mean, the tape is there, the stats are there, everything is there, it's just you have to look for that.

So, uh, so that's something I really, really appreciate that you do, 'cause some of us don't have the time to get that deep, um, but need to know these things anyway. But, you know, when you're looking at these guys, I mean, y- obviously when you're down in the fourth and fifth and sixth rounds of, of dynasty rookie drafts, there's no safe floor.

I mean, the floor is zero for these guys. A-and the ceiling for a number of them is also zero. So what is it that, you know, are you looking for that, that sets the, sets some of these guys apart from some of these other guys? Are there any particular, like, skill trait, schools, you know, anything in particular that, that strikes you as, "Yeah, this is one of those guys I wanna, I wanna put a little check mark next to and keep my eye on"?

DBro: It g- it goes back to, I think the, the total prospect makeup, like whether they pop from an analytics standpoint or they pop from film or it's both. Um, and looking at all those different parts or pieces, you know? So I, I, I'd say, you know... Or, or if we're going cross-positionally, like we're j- we're just talking about wide receivers and stuff like that, it's really the film and the analytics and, you know, how, how you're dicing that up or quantifying that.

Uh, if it's tight ends, it's both those things as well as, uh, high-end athleticism because, you know, high-end outcomes and high-end athleticism are joined at the hip for tight ends more than any other-- They're more correlated than any other position in fantasy. So I think it's, it's looking at those things and seeing if anybody pops off the page, you know what I mean?

Like, and this isn't just like... But that, that's one of the reasons why I was so high on somebody like a Puka Nacua who was a fifth round pick, and everybody gets so married to draft capital and that telling the tale, but they also forget that there are the Stefon Diggs of the world. There are the Adam Thielens of the world.

There are the Jalen Cokers of the world. There are the Puka Nacuas of the world, where they did not get drafted early. Uh, Terry McLaurin, another guy who was like round four or later. You know, like a lot of guys, like if you look at the total makeup of the NFL, yes, most of our fantasy hits, most of the top-end producers were drafted in round one, round two, and could we have seen it coming?

Sure. There's also a lot of guys that have had really, really good careers that that wasn't the case. You know, if we all-- if we stack it all up. So I mean, I think like looking at all of this stuff and trying to mishmash it all together into the best-- You're trying to paint the best picture you can of a player's skill sets, whether it's the blend of film and analytics, and if they pop from one or both of those, then it's somebody that I'm gonna be very interested in.

Jeff: Yeah. I- I've said a number of times, uh, on this show and in life generally that one of the keys to dynasty is to find that first-round talent with third and fourth-round picks. Uh, 'cause that is very much, you know, you talk about little edges earlier, this is a big edge if you can do something like that.

If you can find the Puka Nacua, uh, and there may only be one or two of these a year. Some years there may not be, be any. But the-- if you can find that one, uh, every couple of years, you're gonna be light years ahead of the rest of your league that didn't spend those picks well. And that's also one of the reasons that I love to just get, uh, in trades, I love to get third and fourth-round picks, and even fifth-round picks in, in d- drafts that are that deep, because that's an, it's an additional shot at getting that guy.

Of finding this year's Puka Nacua, or this year's Jalen Coker, or this year's Tony Romo, or whoever it might happen, uh, to be. Um, y- so, you know, when you're, when you're looking at, you know, a number of players that are kind of all around the same, they all have the same stat lines, they all kinda have the same tape, they all have the same general set of strengths and, and not strengths, because we're talking about people down the board here.

Is there something that just you really say, "This is the tie-breaking thing. It's gonna be this one and not these other four, even though I've got five guys that are basically s- cookie cutters of each other right here"?

DBro: I think that's kind of when you get into the nitty-gritty of, like, if you're stacking up a lot of different players and you're saying from a talent perspective or the analytics, they all kind of pop, then that kind of goes back to, you know, landing spots and who has the clearest path to playing time. I think if we're all splitting hairs and, you know, all things are equal, then it comes down to who is gonna have the easiest chance or the, the greatest possibility if everything kind of rolls up Yahtzee for them to get on the field.

Because if they can't get on the field, then they can't show an NFL team that they deserve to outkick the draft capital. They can't show an NFL team that, "Look, I was a UDFA, man, but y'all screwed up, the whole NFL screwed up. I should've gone in the third round." You know? Because if they can't get out there and play, they'll never be able to-- 'Cause what draft capital does is it buys you opportunities.

It buys you consistent opportunities to fall on your face, and then the team says, "Okay, we'll give you another shot. Give you another shot. We'll give you another shot." On the flip side of that is the guys that go in round four, round five, UDFAs, they have to consistently outkick the doubters. Like, they have to consistently show up and say, "Look, you got these other guys you drafted in first and second round.

I'm outplaying all these fools over multiple years or multiple weeks." So, like, they have to do that, and if they don't have the playing time, like even pathway, they'll never even get the shot to even try to do that. So they're just gonna languish at the bottom of a depth chart because they didn't get draft capital and respect by the NFL draft consortium of the teams.

Jeff: Or, or they end up on the practice squad because they couldn't even do like special teams and at least get on the 53-man roster, 'cause if you can't get on the 53-man roster, there's no hope. Uh, and then you also...

DBro: and Puka and Jalen Coker, like if they didn't have a chance to play a path to playing time both in their rookie seasons Would both of them still be like wide receiver five or six on an NFL depth chart or cut by now? It's possible.

Jeff: Maybe. But yeah, I mean, that's the thing is that, you know, you didn't get the dr- draft capital this year, uh, as a fifth or sixth round NFL pick or UDFA, but you, you're not only fending off the guys with higher draft capital this year, you're fending off the guys they're going to draft next year and the year after that, because this is a, this is a constant struggle of needing to prove yourself against people that they are going to spend higher draft capital on.

The trick is really to say, "Okay, instead of using your second round pick on a wide receiver this year, I'm that wide receiver. Go get that linebacker or that, uh, offensive lineman that we really need." Uh, and, and that, that to me is kind of tough. You know, is there-- But sometimes it just takes dominoes falling.

I mean, I think the, the best story we had from just, that we could all see from last year was like Bill Croskey-Merritt, where about 100 things happened in front of him, and he ended up being, uh, the guy for at least a few weeks. Is there, is there like a certain number of dominoes that have to fall before you're just like, "Yeah, this is just not gonna happen.

There's, there's really, there's really no way here"?

DBro: I mean, you're looking at guys and, and some of this is not like-- It, it comes down to me like when you look at the strength of the depth chart in front of them. Like if they're wide receiver seven but, but wide rec- or they're like say they're wide receiver eight on the, on the official depth chart. But after the top three guys, wide receiver four through six is a laundry list of just camp bodies or guys that where you're like, "Ugh."

Like that's, that's just, that's a, that's a pile of gross, man. To where you're like, okay, the, the barrier to hop a large swath of players on a depth chart, like it, it, the basically the, the barrier to play is not that high. That bar is not set that high versus a guy that's like, you know, say he lands on a team that just invested two, two picks in that draft with wide receivers or there are two veterans and they drafted two wide receivers.

So it's kinda like they're running four deep to begin with and there's a guy left over from last year that also kinda like showed some flashes. So at best he's-- the, the, this player could get to wide receiver five or six on a depth chart. It's really like you're looking at the constitution of all these depth charts and it's like, okay, if there's just like this just chunk of mid where you're like, okay, half these guys, could they get cut in training camp or they are just camp bodies or they're holdovers like it's a new OC and they're just there to ha- kinda teach the scheme and stuff like that.

You know, you're trying to read all these different tea leaves to where it's like, okay, could this guy hop a bunch of players very, very quickly because that talent level and that, and that barrier is not that high. It's not that high a bar to clear.

Jeff: Yeah, I mean, you know, I've-- I was just thinking about, uh, say, you know, something like a Las Vegas Raiders where you,

DBro: That's ex- that's exactly the depth chart I was thinking of, and there's a guy we're gonna-- there is a guy we're gonna talk about later that, that could make some waves. We shall see.

Jeff: Well, why don't we just jump right on into him? 'Cause it's on our minds. Las Vegas was, was the team I was thinking of that you, you could be, you could stand out and be wide receiver two, maybe even wide receiver one if you have a really impressive camp. So let's, let's move on to the wide receivers and just start with, with that particular one that we're, we're thinking of.

DBro: Chase Roberts, man. Uh, UDFA out of BYU, and I'm not telling you, like, that there aren't some, some concerns or holes in his game, but again, we're discussing a player. Yeah, he ran a 4.6 40-yard dash. That's not amazing, but it's also not a death knell. Like, we've seen guys that run in the 4.6s and have very productive careers.

There are some things to like in his analytical profile, though. Like, he also did have 2.35 and 2.60 yards per route run over the last two years, which amongst FBS wide receivers, at least 50 targets, puts him at 61st and 31st. He's a pretty good route runner, can kind of sink and explode for, especially for a guy that's 6'3".

And then, you know, again, when we go back to the, the depth chart, Jeff, like Tre Tucker, not amazing. Jack Bech didn't do anything in his rookie season. Dont'e Thornton, you could say that. So if we kind of, like, go down the list of like, okay, that's the top four wide receivers, not counting Brock Bowers, on this depth chart.

So basically talking about what, what I just laid out here. If wide receiver four through seven or eight is a crap ton of bleh, could Chase Roberts hop all of them? And I'll just-- I'm gonna name off these names, Jeff, and you tell me if this is a laundry list of guys that Chase Roberts cannot hop, okay?

Malik Benson, Dareke Young, Shedrick Jackson, Philip Dorsett. Yes, he's still in the NFL. Brenden Rice, son of Jerry Rice. E.J. Williams Jr., Jonathan Brady. I don't even know who the hell that is. Could he hop all those guys and be the wide receiver four when we walk out of camp? He could be.

Jeff: when you're looking at, at Las Vegas, 'cause of course you've got Brock Bowers, so that, that's the one. No one's leaping over Brock Bowers anytime soon. So does, does Chase Roberts, do you obv-- does he operate in that same general area of the field, or is he, or is he more on the outside?

Because if he's in the same area of the field, even if he gets to wide receiver four, that's a problem. But if he plays a different kind of role, that may be much more clear for him.

DBro: I, I would say he c- he's a-- first of all, he's a boundary wide receiver. He's a big, long striding, like, more of a possession receiver. So I think if you're looking at, like, if, if he's the arbitrage of, okay- Jack Bech did not fire in his rookie season. If Jack Bech stumbles out the gate this year, Chase Roberts is the guy you would say, "Okay, looking at the archetypes of wide receivers they have to fill out their starting three."

Jalen Nailor's not going anywhere. He will be starting. I think Tre Tucker also is starting. So it's kinda like you're really playing can Chase Roberts play the role that maybe they're, they're pigeonholing Jack Bech into, and could he play it better considering Bech did nothing in his rookie season? And I, I think it's possible, man.

Like Chase Roberts also stood out with a 65.7% contested catch rate over the last two years. He's got good body control, a big catch radius. The real thing for him is like drops have been a problem. He has to clean that up. He has to continue to get better as a route runner. But there are a lot of raw tools there for Chase Roberts where you're like, "Okay," like if you run him like 60% like outside, put, put him as a big slot on some of this stuff, like he can sink and explode really well for his size.

So if Bech doesn't hit the ground running or if Bech like maybe he's a starter coming out of camp, but by week four he's not doing anything and Chase Roberts is nipping at his heels, you could see a changing in the guard.

Jeff: you're talking about things like, you know, route running, like not, not being the best at actually at, at drops, for example. But yet he has a high contested catch rate, so there's a lot to work with there. Some of that, you know, is, is all coachable, but some of, of course, the high contested catch rate is because he can't get open.

Is that why he's got contested catches? Or perhaps his quarterback was wild? I think there's-- you've gotta kind of look into some of those sorts of things to get the context of it. But the, the fact that he can still do that, even if he's in traffic, is still really good. If he can increase his separation, that's, that's even better.

Um, who are some of the other guys here at wide receivers y- you are looking at in either late third or at least the fourth round in rookie drafts and beyond? Anybody in particular that you're, you're targeting?

DBro: There's a bunch of guys, man, and, and I think when we're looking at this just swath of players, like the other thing about it is ADP is all over the map in rookie drafts right now. Like you'll see guys go anywhere from like- round two to round four. It's really get your guy season. So some of these guys, like I might mention here, people could say, like the first one I'm gonna mention here, people could say, "Well, you put him round two in my rookie draft.

Like, what the hell are you talking about?" There's been plenty of like go to see other leagues and stuff where certain guys will fall to round four, and Bryce Lance is the first name that I'm gonna pick up, bring up here because I have seen him go in round two of rookie drafts. I've selected him in round two of rookie drafts myself, and there's other leagues where I'm in, he's gone-- Like, I've been able to draft him at the back end of like round three.

Some I've seen him drop to round four, and I, I don't understand it. Like, I don't understand it when he's available that late because I'm very, very interested. And I understand everybody's gonna like knock him for coming out of a small school. I, I don't care about that because when you see guys go to small schools, what do we wanna see, Jeff?

We wanna see guys that look like a man amongst boys. They look like they're a high school guy or a college guy running around like versus junior high guys, and Bryce Lance did that last year. North Dakota State, like amongst all FBS and FCS wide receivers, so a large consortium of guys, at least 50 targets.

Eighth in yards, or s- excuse me, sixth in yards per route run, eighth in yards per reception. Like, there's like it's the blinding speed. It's the physical at like traits with him. Like, I think he's Christian Watson 2.0, but if we get better health as well as it's, it's the runway, man. Like coming out of FCS, he got fourth round draft capital.

People might snub their nose at that, but again, we could go through all these NFL depth charts of guys that have popped that have gone in the third and fourth round on day three. And then you look at the constitution of the, of the Saints' depth chart, it's like, okay, sure, they drafted Jordyn Tyson. They got Chris Olave. Um, what do they got behind them? A whole lot of nothing. Devaughn Vele, no, you can miss me with that. Didn't do anything last year. Isn't gonna do anything this year. Bryce Lance could be starting in three wide receiver sets over him. Chris Olave is a free agent after this year. Like the Saints basically just set it up so if Olave, if they decide to like, say they decide to trade him middle of the season, maybe they decide to let him walk and get a comp pick.

Like he's had his own laundry list of concussions and injuries and what have you. If they don't bring him back, like Bryce Lance is gonna be their wide receiver three this year. If Jordyn Tyson's injury issues follow him to the NFL, Bryce Lance might be their wide receiver two. Hell, let's play out the fever dream, Jeff.

If we're at week seven and Chris Olave is down with an injury and Jordyn Tyson is down with an injury, Bryce Lance could be operating as their damn wide receiver one this year. And you could get him in the third and fourth round of rookie drafts. I do not understand it, but, you know, before I just start tossing more names, what are your thoughts about Bryce Lance?

Jeff: Uh, you know, I think that-- I, I think there's a couple things you look at, like you're looking at the dominoes. You're looking first of all at how many people does he have to leap over, and secondly, what role does he play if somebody gets hurt? Because we know that injuries do happen, uh, i-in this league.

It's an unfortunate thing. We don't wish for those for anybody, whether, whether we have their backup or not. That's not the point. But who, whose, whose role does he play? And then you start looking at the contract situations. Like, and, and that is another thing you just brought up with Olave, that this is a team that is in cap hell.

Uh, they are p- finally paying that reckoning for all those years of somehow managing to push everything off into a future year. So you're gonna need a bunch of guys playing on rookie contracts. They, they could perhaps bring Olave back, but they're probably not going to be able to. Uh, and if the season starts going south, they might move him sooner rather than later.

I'd rather get something for him than nothing. And, and then you've got opportunities for someone like Bryce Lance to pop right back up in there. So that, he checks those kinds of boxes for me. He's got the skills. There's not a whole lot of traffic in front of him. If he can't beat out Bub Means, well, fine.

But, you know, Bub Means also can't stay healthy, and so that may not be an issue. So you look at that, you look at the roles, you look at the contract situation, what's the path look like for a player like this? And I think you are spot on that he's got one of the, the better opportunities. That doesn't mean it's gonna happen, and it doesn't mean someone else is not gonna leapfrog him.

Uh, we can't know those kinds of things, but we can at least see what the runways and the possibilities or the dominoes look like and, and decide does this kid have a, an easier, and nothing's easy, but a, a not as difficult path to relevance as somebody else. I think the answer's yes. I think he's a great, great option.

DBro: I mean, look at, look at the rest of the depth chart around him. Like they, they drafted Barion Brown, he's gonna be just a returner. They're not gonna count on him for high-end like wide receiver snaps. Mason Tipton has already been given snaps in previous years and didn't do anything with them. Same thing with Bub Means.

Ja'Lynn Polk, yes, that Ja'Lynn Polk is on that depth chart. He's not done anything in the NFL. Same thing with Kevin Austin Jr., Trey Palmer, Ronnie Bell, all these guys. Like we have had proof of concept of them not doing anything. So Bryce Lance is gonna be a starter from day one, and then we'll get into some other guys that can earn their way up the depth chart.

Like I am gonna draft Kevin Coleman Jr. as in, in as many spots as I possibly freaking can, because the Miami Dolphins depth chart is wide open. Like I do not care what it looks like right now. Like people are like, "Oh, well, you know, Malik Washington." I'm like, "Okay, what did Malik Washington do even when he was given run as a starter last year?

He did nothing, man." So I like Malik coming out as a guy in this conversation, but then we-- he got snaps, starter snaps for a long time and didn't do anything with them. He didn't command targets, he wasn't efficient with his work. And so I'm not worried about like Kevin Coleman Jr. having a h- like a high bar to clear to beat him out for a starting, uh, lineup spot.

And Kevin Coleman Jr. was a player like because he is a slot wide receiver, these guys don't go high in the NFL draft usually, unless there's pedigree, insane production. Teams look at them as like, "Fine, you played 90% slot, uh, in college, but we think that you can definitely get open on the outside," a la JSN.

Then a lot of these guys don't get a lot of respect with draft capital. And Kevin Coleman Jr., that was definitively the case. He didn't test as an otherworldly athlete, but dude, you turn on the film, kid could play. Like he had over 2.2 yards per route run in each of the last two collegiate seasons. He was 17th and fifth in missed tackles forced.

He also adds, um, my comp for him is 2025 Wan'Dale Robinson, where yes, he's a slot-confined player. Yes, he's an underneath guy. He can make some things happen with the ball in his hands, but he also gives you an element of verticality from the slot. Like, 'cause he plays bigger than his size and the route running is definitely underrated here, Jeff.

Like, again, doesn't drop the ball. He had a 3.4% drop rate in college, and I go back to playing bigger than his size at the catch point. You don't see a lot of slot wide receivers that leave college with a 53.7% contested catch rate. So a player that, is he going to be like probably 70% or higher in the slot?

Sure. But I think he can earn his way up this depth chart and you look at also where this, this team is going w- from a play calling standpoint, their personnel and stuff like that. We're talking about Green Bay South. You're talking about Bobby Slowik. You're talking about, okay, we all remember Tank Dell's rookie season, okay?

We all do. Okay, Bobby Slowik was there for that. We all do remember Jayden Reed, his rookie season and, and, and how, what he did earlier in his career, not so much lately. But my whole point of this is you're looking at scheme, you're looking at depth chart, you're looking at, okay, all these guys are gonna get thrown into the same soup and who floats to the top and who can sit here and play out.

I think Kevin Coleman Jr. can do that, and I'm not gonna be shocked if he is basically South Beach Jayden Reed.

Jeff: Yeah. Playing, playing bigger than, than the role, playing bigger, taller than the position's really critical, I think, for slot receivers, especially as the league is evolving into more 12 and per- 13 personnel. Uh, I don't know that Miami's gonna be able to do that. They've got Dulcich and Kacmarek, Traore, and then four guys I've never heard of on the, on the depth chart there for tight end.

So that may not be an option for them to do a lot of 12 and 13. So that means the slot role is open, and that is going to be, I think, something important for Malik Willis to be able to operate from and use, uh, given the way that that, that offense is built. It's the way they're gonna have to move the ball.

I think Coleman, again, just a great shot to take. And remember, we are not talking about spending your first-round rookie pick on this guy. We are talking about a third-round pick, a fourth-round

DBro: A fourth round pick. Like, he's going consistently in that fourth round range. Hell, in some shallower leagues, he's gonna fall out of the rookie draft, so you'll be able to get him on waiver unless people are listening to this show.

Jeff: Yes. Yeah, exactly. And, and if your draft is over or your draft's not as deep as this, these are still guys you'd get off the waiver wire who are going to beat out some of the people who were taken in the second and third rounds of drafts, and other guys who are taking up valuable sp- space on your bench right now

DBro: Mm-hmm.

Jeff: Uh, you know, you talk in the evaluations, and all of these evaluations are on, on the, uh, FantasyPros website.

Uh, but you also highlight things. We've talked about some of them, ca- contested catch rate, uh, drop issues. You also highlight things like their abilities to accelerate or decelerate in their routes, and something that I love, the term, you call it TikTok footwork. Uh, you know, uh, who, who, who do you kinda see there as the guys who, and, and you may have already mentioned some of them, but who are the, who are the accelerators and decelerators that you really like?

And, uh, I think TikTok footwork is a negative, so I think we wanna s- avoid the guys who have

DBro: Yeah, I mean, really when I get into, like, discussing players and what-- and the, the film evaluations with like... A- and, and for anybody that's not familiar, when I'm talking about it, like it's all these TikTok-y routes. Basically, that's like all these social media clips of like guys on practice fields with no shirts on, and they're running routes versus air, and it's all this at, at, at the line of scrimmage, and they're basically just running in place for like 10 seconds, and then they dart into a direction and you're like, "Well, that's not gonna play in the NFL."

Like, you can't spend 10 seconds on the damn line trying to juke the guy out like you're playing freeze tag. Like, there are so many parts of NFL, like p- passing concepts, gotta be at your spot, like versus zone coverage, pacing in your routes, where if you spend 10 seconds on the damn line trying to get off the line to the corner, like you're already behind the play.

So you're not gonna be where you're supposed to be in the play design or in the reads or the progression, so we got problems here, man. Much less like half of that crap doesn't play in the NFL. You have to be precise with your footwork and the efficiency in your footwork, where it's like, fine, if you can two to three steps to change directions versus a one-step cut.

Like, all of these little things add up to your ability to separate and create separation, whether that's early or late separation, and the ability to run routes. And the other thing that kind of gets lost in the conversation of the NFL, like the, the transition from college to the NFL, so much of college nowadays is playing off coverage.

So like cornerbacks sitting three and five yards off of wide receivers and these guys running hitch routes where people are like, "Ah, man, look, he's just getting open religiously." Well, when the cornerback's playing five yards off the line and you're running a three-yard hitch and you just turn around, that's not a route win.

Like that's not

Jeff: All

DBro: that's not gonna translate to the NFL 'cause corners aren't playing that far off like it is in college and the spacing of college fields versus the NFL, it, it's just not translatable. So, y- fine, okay. Like that all goes back to like knowing what the hell you're actually watching too.

And it's like some of these things translate and, and plus like knowing how to set a corner up, whether that's you're threatening the outside shoulder, what are you doing versus said coverage? What are you doing versus if, if a corner is, is neutral versus you or inside or outside leverage and the route you're running, what you're trying to accomplish, how you're getting open.

All these different parts of like the greater conversation of route running and playing the wide receiver position versus like, oh, he's playing five yards off, three-yard hitch. Like he, he just turn, stop routes, stop routes. He, he's in a bunch formation and the basically the he, he's or he's in a stacked formation and he, uh, the, the wide receiver in front of him is drawing the coverage and it's a scheme touch, so he's running across underneath where th- this is the bigger conversation of why people have missed on Tennessee wide receivers in years and stuff like that, where it's these guys are not earning separation.

It is being gifted to them based off of the scheme, of the coverage scheme that they are facing or the offensive scheme they are living in, and it's creating the separation for them versus give me the guys where it's just line up on the, on the, on the, the line of scrimmage and route dudes up. If you could do that, it's kinda like tackle breaking and stuff for running backs.

It's like if you could create yards for yourself, that translates, dude. Like you're not beholden to an OC to scheme you up because you can't get open for your damn self.

Jeff: Yeah, yardage is one of the only things that, that actually translates directly from one level to the other. The field is the same length, the same number of yards, same number of yards for first down. And even if you are finding yourself fortunate enough in the NFL to have a corner that's five yards off of you and you run that hitch route, that safety's coming really fast.

Uh, and if your back's to him, you're not gonna see him, and that's gonna be really, really ugly. Those on-- Those just watching, uh, live in the stadium or on Red Zone could see that coming from a mile away, but you will not be able to. But yeah, you, you bring up... And, and Tennessee, I think, does have that reputation, it's richly earned, that, that those players are not asked to do a lot because they've got other sacrificial players who do some of that for them.

So, uh, you know, we weren't gonna talk about top guys, but I imagine that, that Brazzell is in that bucket for you as someone you're probably not p- doing a lot of picking up in those earlier rounds. Or are you? Or is he d- is he different?

DBro: Actually, I am. He is-- He does not fit the usual Tennessee wide receiver, um, he's not in that phylum of guys. Chris Brazzell actually has legit route-running chops for his size especially, and what he was asked to do at Tennessee, and especially if you go back to even yesteryear when he was at Tulane.

So Chris Brazzell breaks the mold of those Tennessee wide receivers, but other guys of previous classes, like where I was like... Look, because the other thing is you're trying to give context with the film of people are like, "Oh, well, this guy was a perimeter wide receiver," but what does his perimeter wide receiver snaps look like?

Sure, he can line up on the perimeter and technically he is a perimeter wide receiver, but if you're seeing him in bunch formations and stuff, and he's running the underneath crosser and the other guys are running clear-outs, or it's like, you know, sail dagger and like one guy is running, running the, uh, the go and he's getting the underneath stuff, it's like he's not creating a lot of this stuff for himself.

I mean, a guy perfect, perfect talk about this was a guy, I already mentioned his name earlier, where I was like, Ja'Lynn Polk might have perimeter wide receiver on his, on, like attached to his name. He was not a perimeter wide receiver at Washington. He was all schemed up BS. He was the, the, the other guy in the, in, in the stack formation.

He wasn't the lead guy, he was the underneath guy, and a lot of this stuff was made for him. So if they were, like New England took him and they were like, "Oh, we're gonna put you on the outside. We're gonna ask you to win on the line of scrimmage." Okay. Good luck, buddy. Not gonna happen. Same thing for Xavier Legette when he came out as a prospect, all these crossers, and they were like, "Hey, you're big, you're athletic.

Go run away from dudes. We think you can do that. Cool." And then Carolina takes him, they're like, "You're big, you're physical. We're gonna just throw you into an X role and see how you go." He didn't do anything 'cause they, they-- he was pigeonholed in a role that he wasn't accustomed to because it's not what he was asked to do in college, and he was poorly suited to be tossed into the deep end, man.

So, you know, it comes back to like the constitution of giving context to film and analytics and trying to dr- like color, paint within the numbers and make the most complete picture of what actually happens or an actual skill set for these wide receivers versus what, what the narrative is or the echo chamber talk of is or the numbers, like you just take them at face value.

Jeff: Hmm. Who else, uh, in the class here in these now moving back down to our lower rounds, who else do you see as actually having that? Have the ability, they can run the routes, they have the ability to create separation. They could be that X or they can be the guy in the slot, or perhaps they're versatile and can do a number of different things.

Who else do you have your eye on here in, in rounds four or five or beyond in, in rookie drafts?

DBro: I'll, I'll bring up two other names here. Um, CJ Daniels, who landed with the Rams. Uh, if anybody goes out there, just search his name, you're gonna find a thread from me that has some of the sickest body control and, and catch point. Like I, I, I sent this to somebody the other day and I just described it as enjoy this catch point porn because you're gonna, you're really gonna love this.

Because he, he doesn't have the, the highest end ability as far as a route runner and a separator, but this dude is just nasty at the freaking catch point. And so body control is also one of those things for wide receivers, like you can't teach it. Like either they have the athleticism and the play strength to win at the catch point consistently and contort their bodies and stuff.

Now is it a problem if you cannot separate and you have to live in that, that realm consistently like an Auden Tate? Sure, yeah, like that's not great, you know, because you can't separate and things. And CJ Daniels is not a high-end separator and there are holes in his analytical profile, but going into a spot like the Rams where McVay and company, they, they love these catch point guys.

Like, I mean look at Jordan Whittington. I mean you could even toss Puka Nacua in this, like he has some of the sickest catch point, um, you know, body control at the, at the catch point, uh, going back to BYU that you could go back and research. And so CJ Daniels like is he a guy that like is probably better served as like becoming a big slot player?

Yes. Like I mean you're looking at the very, very bottom of the rung, dollar store, poor man's version of a Puka that you can get. But like could he become a possession wide receiver in the NFL if, if-- Because I think there are physical limitations with him as far as like raw speed, things of that nature that are gonna hold him back.

But if the scheme in, in LA can do him some more favors, could he be a guy that like he pops? Possibly. And the, and the last guy I'll bring up here man is he was kinda like my pre-draft darling. The NFL didn't see it the way that I saw it based off of, um, his athleticism. Like Brenen Thompson got all the, the puff and praise in the process of being like the, the smaller, diminutive like speed receiver in this class.

I really loved Eric Rivers. And I, I loved Eric Rivers because also the fact of it is is that he was so underrated as a route runner. Like you go to Georgia Tech and his numbers aren't amazing like last year, like, but he, he, he surpassed the, the 2.0 yards per route run threshold. You go back to the previous year at FIU, he was eighth in the entire, like, country in yards per route run if you stack all the receivers up with at least 50 targets.

So again, a guy that does pop if you go a little bit deeper for the numbers. And his film definitely matches up, man. Like the guy that had over an 80th percentile vertical jump, ran a 4.3 freaking 40. Nobody talks about him. He did go-- fall out of the draft. He got a UDFA contract to the Buccaneers. That is an incredibly messy and, and muddy kind of depth chart.

Like, and also another one of my love list guys in Ted Hurst is, is there, and he's fighting for playing time. But Eric Rivers, again, like if we're talking about deeper leagues and a guy that you can get and stash after the rookie draft and put him on a taxi squad, I, I'm, I'm betting on the talent here for Eric Rivers because I think outside of the size, now he's in that 5'10", 170-ish kinda, kinda range, but he played perimeter wide receiver throughout the entirety of college, and he shows the, not only the nuance in his routes, but the ability to set up corners that I think he truly can translate and continue to play on the perimeter in the NFL.

Jeff: Georgia Tech too is one of those offenses that I always put an asterisk by any stats that come out of there because it is not a conventional kind of pro-style or even college-style offense. Stanford is another one, Navy

DBro: played it safe. It was a lot of game manager stuff too, so...

Jeff: Yeah, you just kind of have to, have to think about, uh, in the context of that system, what was he doing?

And you, you highlighted the, uh, yards per route run. To get that kind of a number on a team that doesn't throw very much, uh, is, is, is I think really a, a sign that somebody's is, is good. And, you know, his size is not right, but he's played against some of the harder and tougher competition, uh, in the outside.

Uh, and, and I don't know, thrived is probably not the right word, but certainly succeeded, and he's definitely the kind of guy that I think can land maybe not initially on the 53-man roster, but can stay around, uh, and, and get there. And for a fifth or sixth round rookie pick, there's definitely worse you could do than, than someone like that or someone like CJ

Daniels. Like my only thing with Daniels and the Rams, I of course love that McVay is gonna be able to get the most out of him. I'm more confident in Sean McVay handling a player than just about anybody. It's just that Sean has now become the, um, heavy tight end guy, so with a lot of 12, 13. If there, if there ever was a five tight end set in the NFL, if we haven't seen one yet, we'll probably see one this year from the Rams.

That, that to me is the, the only sort of thing that's really, really in the way o- of that role. Uh, you've got Puka playing something like that, and while there's not really a lot of bodies in between Daniels and the starting lineup, there may not be enough sets for him to really spend a lot of time out there.

DBro: Well, and, and before we move on, I do wanna correct myself. I was wrong when I referenced I need to put more respect on Eric Rivers. So in 2024, I got the stat wrong. He was actually eighth in receiving yards amongst all FBS wide receivers, and amongst FBS wide receivers at least 50 targets, he was actually second in yards per route run.

Jeff: That was his FIU days?

DBro: FIU days. Yep, 2024.

Jeff: Yep. A- and again, don't dismiss that because it's FIU. I mean, he's, he was dominant. You wanna see somebody dominant.

DBro: dude. He was

Jeff: was Yeah. Uh, and so, you know, I think you can look at-- I think the natural inclination is to look at that stat line at FIU, look at what he did at Georgia Tech and say, "Oh, he couldn't manage it against the bigger competition."

No, Georgia Tech's offense is weird. Uh, and he played, he played a great role there for that offense. It just the stats doesn't, don't necessarily reflect that. So just because the stats aren't as good on paper from, uh, at the bigger level than at the smaller level, doesn't mean that the player couldn't handle the bigger level.

Let's move on to tight end position that apparently blocking tight end was much more valuable than catching tight end in this year's draft because there was a whole gaggle of them that went much sooner than those of us in fantasy would have preferred because we like the catching ones and not the blocking ones.

Uh, but what are you looking for in a tight end, uh, that comes in in these later draft rounds that makes you wanna roster him, even if he's gonna sit for a year or two? And we've become quite spoiled in the last few years with tight ends who hit instantly. None of these guys are, are gonna hit instantly, and they may not hit for several years.

So what do, what are the traits that you're really looking for?

DBro: it goes back to constitution of the film and the analytical profile as well as the athleticism. And I kinda mentioned this earlier, but like the high-end athleticism is definitely, uh, one, you have to clear the benchmarks. And for me, any tight end that runs slower than, uh, anywhere in the 4.7 40 range, if you're a 4.8 y- coffin nail.

You-- I can name the tight ends in the last 10 to 15 years on one hand that have had fantasy football relevance that have ran a 4.8 or slower. It's Isaiah Likely and Kyle Rudolph, end of list, period. So if you run a 4.8 or slower, you're automatically off my board. No interest, none, nah. Not, not, not at all.

And so, uh, to the other side of that coin, if you are hyper-athletic, okay. Okay. I'm interested. Whether it's a deep league guy, whether a guy that maybe I didn't love his analytical profile, but if he could figure it out in the NFL, and we're talking about, like, uh, especially guys like, uh, one of the names you brought up earlier, Seydou Traore in Miami.

Like, he's the move tight end, stupid athleticism. There are high-end moments, but there's a lot left to clean up on his film and stuff. Um, and if Greg Dulcich doesn't re-sign 'cause he's in a contract year, Traore's the guy that, like, he's the move, he's the pass-catching guy. Will Kacmarek is the guy that's-- he's gonna be your inline 12 personnel blocking tight end.

And so Traore's gonna basically that, that they drafted him of if he can sit behind Dulcich for a year and he can improve, maybe he's our starting tight end in that, that pass-catching move tight end role for next year. So for me, it goes back to for tight end specifically, high-end athleticism equals high-end possible outcomes.

And if you don't have the high-end athleticism or at least you're clearing the benchmark. And this, this draft class was littered, Jeff, with guys in that 4.6 to 4.7 range where if the, if all of the things like line up for them, could we see like a, a Cade Otton kind of run out? Like, there was a crap ton of these guys, man.

Like, where there was like Joe Royer or Jack Endries, all these other guys where it was like, could I see it? Is it possible? Sure. But the, uh, there's also a crap ton of guys that we're gonna discuss here where they ran 4.4, they ran 4.5. They show the, like, legit seam stretching ability and body control in the air, and maybe this doesn't line up with their analytics, but I'm like, "Holy crap, I'm drafting a crap ton of these guys."

Jeff: Yep. Yeah. I- is the-- I- in Miami, I think it's an interesting sort of situation 'cause they, like New Orleans to me, are in kind of a cap hell situation, and so they're gonna have to rely on these younger, cheaper contracts for a while. Uh, and, and so that to me sets up a, a, an avenue toward potential playing time.

And the, the role here, the key word of course is potential. I mean, there's, there's all sorts of things that can happen. But that's the sort of thing to think to look for, uh, when you're a dynasty manager. You're looking at some of these deep guys is, you know, where's the pathway, and is it at least plausible that they could get there? And someone like, I think Traore is there. And then also, I mean, the rise of 12 and 13 personnel, and this is sort of the flip side of what we were just talking about with, with, uh, with LA and the wide receivers.

Does that create more opportunity for some of these pass-catching tight ends who might otherwise not have the body or not have the blocking chops to be on a 53-man roster? Is there more room for them now because of this, uh, this evolution?

DBro: There is, and what I would say also is, is with the guys that, that can also block, but they are the, the pass-catching component, or if they can at least get to a point where right now they're either average blockers or they can at least become average blockers, then maybe we see maybe they're not just the, the inli- like the, the 12 personnel, like receiving option.

Maybe they grow into-- Because the pass-catching upside is higher with them because of the athleticism. If they're blocking, it'd at least be passable. Like, not a guy you're asking to sit here and be the puller, uh, or the lead blocker on a pill, uh, pin pull run, you know, somebody like that. Or they're not asked to set the edge.

They're basically just asked to kinda get in the way, hold your blade of grass. We're not asking you to be a people mover. We're just asking you to not get the quarterback murdered or not be destroying a run play because you suck and you get blown out of your damn cleats. So that, if they can at least like clear that bar, maybe these guys that have the, the pass-catching component could usurp the guy that they drafted to be that blocker and could be the every down guy, and then the other guy that was drafted to mainly block is only coming in when there is like 13 and 12 personnel, and the other guy is staying out there for a 70 or 80% route share, and they could hop them.

Jeff: Yep. Who, uh, you know, who are the tight ends that you really are... You said there's a, there's a number of them, and to me, this is one of the jo- the gems of this class generally are the

DBro: I love the tight ends here, man.

Jeff: These are, these are the guys that I am certainly targeting in later rounds. I am not, I, I'm abandoning receiver here pretty quick.

Some of the guys you mentioned I am looking for if I can find them, but I, I do love some of these tight ends, so, uh, let's get into it, man. Who,

DBro: Dude, I love these tight ends, and then the other thing about it is I feel like I'm, I'm, I'm t- I'm taking crazy pills. Like, I feel like I'm... Like, like I get into these drafts and I'm like, "Why in the ever-loving hell are you letting Oscar Delp and Eli Raridon fall to the third and fourth round of drafts?"

Like, wha- what are we doing here? Like, honestly, Jeff, like what the ever-loving hell are we doing here? Like, everybody's like, "Oh, well, Oscar Delp, like the counting stats weren't great." Okay, do you also understand that Georgia quarterback play was absolute and total dog water, and he wasn't a part of the offense?

That doesn't mean-- And oh, by the way, he played the entire damn year with a hairline fracture in his foot.

Jeff: Yeah.

DBro: And yet, he ran a 4.49 40. He has a 96th percentile vertical jump, a 96th percentile broad jump, as well as Oscar Delp over the last two years was 10th and 23rd in YAC per reception, as well as we're talking about the high-end athleticism, and the guy that we're talking about is like, "Oh, he's the pass-catching component."

Oh, wait. Oscar Delp last year played 74% of his snaps as an inline tight end. So it wasn't just, like, this big slot guy, and we're not, like, talking about Harold Fannins of the world or Jaheim Bells and all those other kind of tweener guys. This guy played inline. He can actually block. Oh, he's also a high-end athlete.

Oh, also in, with the Saints, you have Juwan Johnson, who basically has only garnered targets when everybody else fell apart in front of him. When Taysom Hill was hurt, they didn't have a wide receiver two last year, so he was the de facto number two in the passing attack. That doesn't mean anything, man.

Like, so, like, they go out and they draft Oscar Delp, and anybody that's, like, familiar with this, just because you get round three or round four capital, that's honestly the sweet spot for tight ends in the NFL draft. Go and look at all your favorite high-end elite tight ends. 90% of them were not drafted in round one or round two.

Tucker Kraft, Mark Andrews, George Kittle, just to name a few. Like, those guys went in the middle rounds of the NFL draft. So saying he got third-round capital doesn't mean anything to me. That's a plus to me. So going back to it, like, Oscar Delp was underutilized at Georgia. He is a mismatch weapon. He is the high upside shot you take in rookie drafts right now.

And I'm not gonna be surprised if we flip over the cards in a few years, Jeff, and Oscar Delp ends up becoming, like, the dollar store version of, I'm not gonna evoke the name George Kittle, but I'm also gonna go very high up the realm here. If we turn over the cards in two or three years and Oscar Delp is basically the Saints version of a Colston Loveland, I'm not gonna be surprised, man.

I'm really not. And I know I'm putting a lot of praise on his name, but this guy was-- He can legitimately freaking play. Um, and before I get, I mean, what are your thoughts on Delp before I get into, like, these other two guys that I'm gonna wax poetic about?

Jeff: I, I could not, could not have been happier at his landing spot really. I mean, he's got the... That, that talent

DBro: Kellen Moore, baby. Let's go!

Jeff: You know, I mean, Kellen Moore may be a head coach somewhere else a year from now and it may not matter in that regard, but I can only see what I could see, and I see Kellen Moore and I see a, you know, a very versatile, very athletic tight end who can...

Doesn't have to... Whose, uh, presence on the field doesn't automatically mean, "Hey, we're throwing the ball," or, "Hey, we're running the ball," like a lot of other tight ends are. You have Juwan Johnson who is fine, uh, but probably too expensive for, again, a team that's in, in a cap problem.

DBro: we're also not worried about Noah Fant at this point in his career.

Jeff: Oh, no.

DBro: Noah Fant. Nobody.

Jeff: No. No one should be... No, Noah Fant shouldn't be on any, any, any rosters right now, uh, unless you just, you know, like a paperweight because he, he's definitely not there. And then you look sort of behind them. Uh, yeah, I don't know who any of these other people are.

There's opportunity there for him. And, and then, you know, the, the other guy you mentioned in this opening, I don't know if he's the next one you're gonna go to, but Raridon, 'cause he's

DBro: Yeah, baby.

Jeff: g- he's the one I'm going after. He is the one I am going after. I've got him everywhere in round, rounds three.

DBro: Same. I'm taking him in the back end of round two 'cause I don't care, man. Like, if we just zoom out here-- Oh, God, I'm getting all hot and bothered here, Jeff, Jesus. All right. If we just zoom out here, dude, and we took the name away from it, and we said, "You can draft the starting tight end for the New England Patriots tied to Drake Maye for the next four years.

He'll be the starting tight end for the New England Patriots in 2027." You can draft him in round three or round four of rookie drafts, and people still say, "Nah, I'd rather go take Nick Singleton. I'd rather go take this guy. I'd rather go..." What are we doing here? What in the ever-loving hell are we doing here when you can draft the starting tight end for Drake Maye and people are gonna let him fall to the third and fourth round of rookie drafts?

Hunter Henry is a free agent after this year. Austin Hooper is gone. Raridon will be their tight end two automatically on their depth chart this season. And then we get into the, then we get into the analytical profile, Jeff. First of all, he ran a 4.62 40-yard dash. He had an 81st percentile vertical jump, an 88th percentile broad jump.

Athleticism box, check. Then you look at his deployment with Notre Dame last year- 13% go ball rate, 5.2% posts. He led-- Th- th- here-- This was in my 50 stats article, and I still feel like people have missed the boat on this. Raridon led all FBS tight ends last year, Jeff, in deep receiving yards. Amongst all FBS tight ends with at least 20 targets, Eli Raridon, 11th in yards per route run.

And yet he's falling to the third or fourth round of rookie drafts. Jeff, what the hell are we doing?

Jeff: We're snapping him up. That's what we're

DBro: I have him everywhere, man. Everywhere, everywhere. I, I love him. And the, the last guy I'll bring up here is, again, another deep pull that has, uh, just ridiculous athleticism. He comes out of a smaller school.

But again, if we take the name out of it and I tell you that you can draft this tight end in the fourth round of your rookie drafts, or you can get him afterwards, this tight end, before we even get to the name and the landing spot and what have you, was 27th and fourth over the last two years in YAC per reception.

He ran a 4.57 40-yard dash. He has a 9.2 RAS score. Over the last two years, a 56.2% contested catch rate. He had a 72nd percentile shuttle, and he got fourth round capital. He goes to the Baltimore Ravens. Why do people dismiss and don't even care about Matthew Hibner?

Jeff: Yeah.

DBro: I, I, I, again, I, I don't understand it, man.

I don't understand it. Mark Andrews, what are we getting at this point of his career? Charlie Kolar, gone. Isaiah Likely,

Jeff: Already gone.

DBro: Like all those guys, he's going to be or can-- he's going to fight to be their, their probably their tight end three, maybe their tight end two. They do have Durham Smythe there, so like he, he's basically the guy that's gonna help teach Declan Doyle's system.

So he's more of like the on-field coach than he is like a long-term like thorn in the side. Like Matthew Hibner could legitimately be the heir apparent to Mark Andrews, and nobody cares.

Jeff: Yep. Yeah,

DBro: Nobody cares.

Jeff: again, we're spoiled by some of these instant success tight ends, you know? It used to be that it took two or three years. This is a situation where you want your tight end. It's a very complicated position to play anyway, and you get to the NFL, it gets even more complicated. And you, you...

'Cause you need them to do all sorts of things, and recognize and change on a dime what they're doing. And, and you've got him behind Mark Andrews, who is, is great dude, and, and is gonna be a good teacher for him. Smythe, as you mentioned, is also kind of that. And it's fine if it takes two or three years for him to, to get to that position.

But then you've got somebody who might be Baltimore's tight end for the next nine years. A- and reliably at least a tight end two, maybe a tight end one. See what we're getting from Andrews. When Andrews falls into the end zone, we're getting a lot from him. When he doesn't fall into the end zone, we're not getting much.

But that's true of just about every tight end out there who's not one of the elite guys. I mean, tight end is a position where anybody in any given week can be anywhere from tight end one to tight end 70, because it's... That's just the nature of the position. Touchdowns, where they are, uh, all those kinds of things.

So the athleticism is the one thing that doesn't That doesn't change whether you're getting 12 fantasy points a game or two because you, if you're athletic, you stay out on the field and you can fend off, Hibner can fend off other tight ends who would be coming later. Wide receivers, you're always gonna draft a wide receiver in the NFL.

Very rarely does a team not at least draft one wide receiver and take a shot at it. A lot of teams aren't gonna draft tight ends if they think they've got the one that they need. They, they may draft a blocker, blocking tight end to see if they can do

DBro: Which they already drafted that

Jeff: or see if they can convert into fullbacks.

DBro: They already drafted that guy for Baltimore, so that's already, you know, box checked. Um, one more, and this is a super, super deep guy, and I'm talking like end of your taxi squad, 14-teamer. Like if you just need a bench stash, a guy that, that really I got to late, late, late in the process. I've gotta talk about Jaren Kanak, and if, if nobody has heard this name, I, I don't blame you. I didn't, I didn't know who he was until we got done with the NFL draft and I was going 100 players deep, and I was looking at all these different guys. Seventh round draft capital for the Tennessee Titans. Again, you're talking about...

Th- the-- I know I don't have, I, I don't have facts with this, but I could tell you because I have followed his drafting strategy for enough years, this was a guy that Brian Daboll was probably pounding. This is, this screams Brian Daboll pick. He loves these guys where at the tight end position they're hyper-athletic and they, they got that dog in them, and Jaren Kanak.

So like everybody's-- The, the backstory on... And, and I, I don't even know if you, if you're familiar with Jaren Kanak as of recording this, Jeff, or have you heard this name before?

Jeff: I actually, I had not heard of him until I was-- I had to do dynasty projections for him, uh, a couple of months before the draft, and then I got to familiar with him. Uh, so yeah, he is, he is a name that I was curious to see what was gonna happen to him, uh, and we know now what, what's happened to him, and he is exactly with the, the coach that he needs to be with in Daboll.

I mean, that

DBro: Oh, absolutely, man. And, and for everybody, the, the backstory for Kanak, so he was a collegiate linebacker, uh, throughout college. He did not transfer in, in-- to playing tight end until his final season of college at Oklahoma. And in that season, we're discussing a player who had just transferred to playing tight end, totally new position.

He's raw at this position. He's a little bit undersized at 6'2", but this dude plays like a damn linebacker. He p- he has that dog in him, man. He is a bulldog after the freaking catch. Last year, he ranked 32nd in yards per route run, 12th in missed tackles forced per PFF. He had an 8.4 RAS, a 4.52 40-yard dash, a 90th percentile vertical jump, and an 86th percentile shuttle.

So again, the athleticism is there. We're talking about a team like, they got Daniel Bellinger, who they just signed, who again is another Daboll guy, and Gunnar Helm at the top of this depth chart. So it's not like it's overwhelmingly like he's sitting behind a, an elite tight end or a guy with like a crap ton of starting experience who's been really damn good.

chances that Kanak pans out and he becomes something in the NFL, they're not high. But are the parts or pieces there to where you can squint and you can see it as well as it lines up with the, the analytics and the film and the, the athleticism? Absolutely.

Jeff: Yeah, and, and Tennessee is one of those kinds of roles that, you know, the offense is there for you to take if you want it. I mean, I'm high on Helm, I'm hopeful for him, but I, you know, I, I, I'm realistic. I can see him. Uh, yeah, Bellinger, uh, is, is the day... is another Daboll guy. He's gonna play his role there.

Kylen Grayson is, you know, a placeholder, but who also has a role to play. Uh, and then the other two guys on here, David Martin Robinson and Joel Wilson, and I apologize to their parents. I have no idea who either of those guys are. I'm sure they're great kids, but I don't... If y'all are listening, your kids are wonderful.

I love them. I have no idea who they are, though, so apologize for that. So you get, you know, opportunity. But this is one of those other lessons is look at who the coach is, especially a new coaching staff coming in. They're gonna get their guys. They're not gonna re- uh, they're not gonna be drafting people to fit an old model.

They're gonna fit the new model. This is exactly the kind of guy that a Brian Daboll's gonna pick up, and presumably he's gonna have at least a little bit of a leash here, at least long enough, uh, to, to give, you know, Kanak, uh, an opportunity to make the team. And, you know, he may be the practice squad guy for a year a- and that's...

But that's still okay. I mean, that, that's what, that's what taxi squad spots are for, especially in these really deep leagues. This is a guy who, even if he is swept aside for the year, if he hangs with this, he's that bulldog. He's the guy who plays, you know, the Brock Bowers type in the practice squad and the scrimmages.

He's, he's gonna get a shot at some point. It's

DBro: I agree.

Jeff: on there.

DBro: Yep.

Jeff: Well, let's, let's switch over from positions that we've been really excited and geeking on to positions that we're not very excited about and not geeking on, would be running back. Uh, the NFL gave us a very clear indication as to how, uh, this year's running back class was valued, and that is very, very little.

Um, but yet, day three backs and, and UDFAs will crack lineups here and there when the dominoes fall the right way. Uh, any of those kind of guys that you are eyeing this year when everyone takes your tight ends and you can't pick the guys we were just talking about?

DBro: There's a few different guys. I mean, like I'll, I'll shout out Kaytron Allen here only because the Washington Commanders have a litany of, uh, uninspiring or one-year guys. Bill, what happens with him? Does he get, you know, lost in the, in the, the running back tidal wave this year? It's also damning, you know, like they, they went out and they just added a, a crap ton of bodies, you know?

So Kaytron Allen, like I'm not overwhelmed by the player and the prospect, but you kinda know what you're getting with him. It's like if you need four yards, he can get you four yards, and that's about it. You know what I mean? Like really just a volume compiler. Could he be like the early down guy or could he be their, their starting running back, you know, this year?

I could see it. Um, uh, the other guy I'll, I'll highlight here two more names. It's, it's Seth McGowan because the DJ Giddens got kinda put on a shelf last year, didn't do anything. I think the RB2 role for the Colts is definitely up in the air. McGowan's an older prospect, so again, a guy like if he doesn't fire this year, you probably just feel good about cutting bait with him.

Um, and Jonathan Taylor, it's not like we haven't seen injury issues for him, and the volume's been high over the last few years. So McGowan could be a guy that like, yeah, like if Taylor misses time, then McGowan is gonna walk into like a 15 touch role considering if he wins that RB2, uh, spot if, if Taylor misses any games.

Um, I'll shout out, uh, Eli Heidenreich, uh, only because he's a running back, uh, or he's listed as a running back. I do not-- I do-- He will not remain a running back. I wanna be very, very clear about that. And, you know, so I, I... He will transition to wide receiver, but you're, you're taking him in your rookie drafts right now to running back.

I do not see him staying at running back. If anybody watched any of his film from Navy, you know as well as I do, he did not play traditional running back. When he was given handoffs, it was stuff, it was either wide re- it was either basically like motion plays and he was basically treated as a wide receiver in motion to give it a handoff, or it was toss plays to get him on the perimeter.

So not a lot of conventional running back usage, but I-- dude, I, I think Eli Heidenreich could like transition to slot wide receiver and play it pretty damn well, so another guy I'll shout out here. Um, I don't know if we wanna talk about guys we're avoiding in that same phylum

Jeff: I think so, because it's typically in running back, uh, there's gonna be some of them.

DBro: I mean, two guys that are at the top of my list, I'm not drafting anywhere. People are talking themselves into it. Uh, Demond Claiborne and Adam Randall. I, I, I have no interest. Like Demond Claiborne, people can talk themselves into it, dude. But like for me, again, it comes back to if you can break tackles and you can create yards for yourself, that those are skills that translate agnostic of situation.

Everybody goes to Claiborne, but it's like he's got one like at like g- elite trait and that's speed. Like it's 4.37 speed. But if he, he cannot break tackles at a high level. Again, we're talking about a running back that was 122nd and 94th in yards after contact per attempt. For all of that big play speed, yeah, he was 40th in breakaway rate last year, but 130th, uh, the year before, 95th and 93rd in elusive rating over the last two years.

So like Demond Claiborne, I don't care. Like let people go chase him. I'm, I'm not. Like I'm not, I'm not chasing him. And Adam Randall, I feel like has been a litmus test for rookie process and rookie evaluation this whole entire time where people are like, "Oh, he's a converted wide receiver." And I'm like, "I don't care 'cause he run, he runs like a converted wide receiver and that's not a good thing, dude."

He's a big guy. He runs tall. The contact balance is not there. And everybody talks about the testing, but much like Rachaad White of, of previous years or CJ Prosise or these, all these other guys that test really well when it's like the stopwatches come out and the shorts are on, but they don't translate that to tackle breaking.

Like if I took the name of Adam Randall out of it and I said, "Oh, he's not a wide receiver convert," and everybody didn't attach Tyrone Tracy and Antonio Gibson to his damn name. Like Jeff, would you be interested in a running back last year that was 113th in yards after contact per attempt, 126th in breakaway rate, 103rd in elusive rating, and also 85th in yards per route run?

Would you be interested in that running back, Jeff?

Jeff: n-no, 'cause if, if you, if you can't-- If you, if you're in the hundreds of one, you better be in the teens in the other, and he's not. He's in the

DBro: And he's not, man.

Jeff: a catcher and he's not a runner. And I

DBro: And the owner drafted him to Baltimore. Like what does that tell you? The owner drafted him. Not the scouting team wasn't on that. So the Steve Bisciotti-- Okay, go ahead. Have fun, y'all.

Jeff: Yeah. Bal-Baltimore is sliding into that non-seriousness, uh, franchise area that's currently occupied by Arizona, Cleveland, and the Jets.

There's some company coming with that. Uh, I think, you know, Rachaad White to me i-is not necessarily the player comp, but I think the role comp here. I mean, you've got a guy who is going to take the handoff, and if you need two yards, that's what he's gonna get because he's gonna get hit and he's gonna fall down.

Uh, and, and if that's two yards, then he got it. If it's not, it's not. So maybe if you're in a point per first down league, he has a little bit more value than elsewhere. But I, I-- with you. Not, not with that. Uh, yeah, Claiborne, I'm glad he's fast, man, but you have to get through people to be fast. It doesn't matter if you run right into the-- If you run right into the defensive lineman, it doesn't really matter that you're fast.

You're gonna fall down either way.

DBro: That's my big problem with Claiborne. It's like when you get the undersized running back that's, that's built like the, the, the undersized speed back, then when you are that size, I need to see that you have some really good short area chops. Like you were twitchy as hell. You're gonna create things in a phone booth.

Claiborne is a linear runner, dude. He turns like a damn tiny tugboat. Like, so he's not making guys miss in the second level like you would expect from a guy where it's like, oh, he's got 4.37 speed, and then you see him in the second level and you're like, he just runs into guys or he tries to run around them.

Sometimes that works, sometimes it doesn't. So like his metrics scream to you when you just look at it on the analytics on paper of like, yeah, when he's got like a, a y- you could drive a school bus through the damn hole, yeah, he'll break off a long run 'cause he can run away from dudes. When he has to like solve problems in traffic or he can't use that linear speed, dude's in trouble.

He's in trouble.

Jeff: Yeah. Yeah, if it takes the size hole that I could get the first down out of, you know that there's, uh, you know that there's a problem with, uh, with this guy. But I- I've seen both, uh, both Claiborne and Randall, I have seen them both taken. Sometimes both in the same draft immediately in front of me taking Eli Raridon, uh, in the third round.

And so

DBro: I'm taking tight ends and wide receivers. You can miss me with, with these running backs that will be... Honestly, their depth chart spot will probably be replaced by another guy in next year's draft class. No, I'm not doing that.

Jeff: Yeah. Yeah. If, if not just a free agent signing or someone just coming along, they pluck off someone else's practice squad. And, and that's the other sort of risk is that you- a- any other sort of possibility is even someone on a practice squad could end up somewhere else very quickly and, and change some of the dynamics at the bottom of the depth chart.

Uh, do we even need to bother with quarterback? Is there, is there anybody that you, you would take a shot on here? And I'm assuming it's Superflex, not in one

DBro: Yeah. Th- there, there's two guys in Superflex. Uh, Cole Payton deserves a shout-out. I think there is a runout for him where he could be the long-term successor to Jalen Hurts. Uh, you have Andy Dalton and Tanner McKee are both free agents after this year. And Cole Payton was a guy that I loved.

Like, I do not understand why the Steelers were stupid enough to draft Drew Allar over Cole Payton in th- in round three. It just screamed idiocy to me, but have fun. I'm sorry Steelers fans, but that was a horrible draft pick. Absolutely god-awful. Um, but Cole Payton has the talent, man. He just needs the time and the seasoning and the reps, um, with the jumping competition, the one year, uh, lane as a starter and stuff like that, but it's the rushing upside.

It's the fact that he is an underrated passer. People can miss me with all their stupid Taysom Hill and Tim Tebow comparisons. Cole Payton is immensely better as a passer than both those guys. And the other guy I'll shout out here for deeper Superflex leagues and taxi squads is Haynes King.

Bryce Young has not been good in the NFL for most of his tenure in the NFL, and I'm not telling you Haynes King is gonna go in there and compete for the starting job this year. But if you were to tell me Bryce Young falls on his face yet again with a much more competent g- uh, set of guys around him in Carolina, and this team has quietly gotten a crap ton better over the last two years.

Bryce Young, I just like, he has limitations to his game. There is a hard cap ceiling because of his size, because of his inability to see the middle of the field. Dude, Haynes King has the athleticism, he has the rushing upside. We talked about Georgia Tech's offense and stuff like that. It was incredibly buttoned up where he wasn't asked to do a whole lot.

Are there some accuracy wax and wanes with wax, w- with Haynes King and some arm strength, like limitations with him? Sure, but you're talking about like, can he still throw the deep ball? Yes. Is he incredibly accurate and a really good touch passer? And when he's asked and put in those, like, when he is put in the situation of go make plays out of script and ma- and create something, he can do it.

So also they gave him 250, uh, grand in guaranteed money for a UDFA.

Jeff: Yeah.

DBro: Haynes King could be their QB3 this year, and if anything happens to Bryce Young and Haynes King balls out in the preseason and he competes and stuff like that, Kenny Pickett is not good. We've seen that, man. So like Haynes King could be the Carolina Panthers QB2 this year.

When it's all said and done, he has the rushing upside. I'm higher on him than a lot of other people. Like pre-draft wise, I think he was my QB7. And again, that's not saying much with this QB class, but I would rather, I would rather go get Haynes King after the, the rookie draft off of waivers and stash him on a taxi squad than saying spending a final round pick on someone like a Taylen Green 10 times outta 10

Jeff: Yeah, I, I-- King, just one of those guys I had my eye on as well because again, you know, it's a, it's an offense that doesn't work like a normal offense, but it's not because Haynes King can't run a normal offense. And he has a lot of the traits that I think make Bryce Young work in the NFL, including inaccuracy issues.

And so you're kinda looking at what's the-- what would be a plug and play kind of situation if your lead quarterback goes down, who do you put in there? Kenny Pickett does not work anything like Bryce Young in my book. He's not a good fit there. I think he just was the guy who's available. He's got a bunch

DBro: he's just straight not good too.

Jeff: you know, he, he is one of those-- he to me is one of those guys in Superflex that you hang onto because the dude gets some starts, and starts matter especially later in the season and when your quarterbacks are hurt or, uh, bye weeks. But otherwise, you know, he, he's, he's not anything to write home about.

In terms of Payton, I love that pick for Philadelphia. I hate it being a guy who has a lot of shares of Tanner McKee because that means that's probably the end of

DBro: Yeah, he's, he's gone after this year. Yeah.

Jeff: I-- but to me Payton is again a match. If, if, if Jalen Hurts went down in the middle of a game, Cole Payton could pick that offense up and run it right from the spot.

DBro: might be their QB2 in 2027,

Jeff: their QB2 next year, yeah.

DBro: Yeah.

Jeff: and even if he doesn't ever become the QB1, it doesn't matter. We're talking Superflex, and we are talking about, uh, you know, having somebody that you can bring in if you need to later in a season if something happens to, to Jalen Hurts. And, you know, quarterbacks get hurt.

Everybody gets hurt

DBro: my last little point on Haynes King, a- and, and I said this in my pre-draft writeup, it's still live on the site, like it's-- it was my comp for him, and there's a wide range of comps for him. Like, could I see him being the next Easton Stick? Sure, could happen. If there was a Brock Purdy type to emerge from this class, Haynes King is my bet.

Jeff: Yep. Yeah, very smart between the ears, which is the one thing that you really can't coach anymore. If you don't have it, you don't- you're not gonna have it.

DBro: Mm-hmm.

Jeff: Well, DBro, we have covered a lot of ground today. Bunch, bunch of people, at least a, at least a dozen and a half folks by, by the count, if I just looked down at the little names I was scratching down as we were going.

Um, who are, who are your, uh, who would be your like, you know, three to five favorite guys? I mean, let's, let's just kind of set up. You got third round, uh, fourth round, fifth round, sixth round picks. So one, one in each sort of position. Give me two in rounds five and six because, uh, you know, that's, that's what we're here for, deep guys.

So it gives you about six folks to, to highlight here, starting with the kind of the backside of round three, even the front side of round three. Who's, who's your round three guy?

DBro: You know, I'd say my round three guys are the guys we've already talked-- Round three and round four guys are the guys we've talked about. It's Bryce Lance, it's Kevin Coleman Jr., Oscar Delp, Eli Raridon, and Matthew Hibner. Uh, rounds five and beyond, and guys you can get after waivers, um, or at least after the rookie draft, uh, CJ Daniels, Chase Roberts, and Eric Rivers. Um, and if you wanted to throw, like Cole Payton will probably go to undrafted in some leagues. Um, throw Cole Payton. Cole Payton's even a good stash in one QB because in one QB, if you're gonna make that, they have to have rushing upside. So whether it's Cole Payton and Haynes King are the other names that I'll give here.

Jeff: At the very least, if you've got Jalen Hurts and you've got a, a, a bench spot, get Cole Payton because that's a, that's a plug-and-play replacement one for one. Not talent-wise, but scheme-wise, uh, that, that I think works really well. Um, and, and then, you know, anybody else just sort of in, in the, in the, you know, if, if all miracles happened, this is the guy that I at least wanna have my eye on from the waiver wire.

Now we're not even talking about drafting him in the sixth round. This is just somebody really deep that, that your eyeball is on if the right dominoes work. This is someone you're gonna go get off the waiver wire probably for nothing because nobody else is gonna be paying attention to him.

DBro: I'll go back to Eric Rivers. I, I loved him pre-draft. He was kind of my guy pre-draft and stuff, and the NFL screws this up constantly. Like, if you were to tell me, like, you know, we're living in a world for the Buccaneers that because Chris Godwin gets hurt again or what have you, plus he's at, you know, he's, he's a lot older than I think a lot of people realize right now at this point in his career, injuries have piled up.

If Chris Godwin, uh, you know, i- if the Buccaneers move on from him after this year, we kind of also see when Tez Johnson is and isn't. Like, he's just kind of a role player. Size is a problem for him. Um, he's not a player that I think can play on the perimeter and stuff like that, so really more slot confined, gimmicky stuff like that.

If we were looking at a world where after this year, somewhere in 2027, say we're at week seven, and the Buccaneers are starting a trio of Emeka Egbuka, Ted Hurst, and Eric Rivers, I'm not gonna be surprised.

Jeff: Yeah. Yeah, and I, I think that, that's, that may very well be the direction that they end up having to go. As you say, Chris Godwin's like 75 years old but still plays, uh, plays a little younger than that. Uh, and then Mike Evans is gone and, you know, I imagine Cade Otton is

probably

DBro: Jalen McMillan, they keep

Jeff: long. Jalen McMillan.

DBro: Although people are like, "Oh no, Jalen McMillan." And I'm like, yeah, Tampa Bay believes in him so much that last year with a full wide receiver room and McMillan playing really, really well, they still went out and drafted Emeka, uh, Emeka Egbuka.

Jeff: And Tez

DBro: then after this year-- And, and then after this year they lose Mike Evans and they still go out and they draft Ted Hurst and they sign Eric Rivers. And you're like, okay, well is this also like the continual drafting of wide receivers and adding to that room? Sure, you need the depth. Is that also kind of a slight indictment on Jalen McMillan too?

And nobody wants to hear it.

Jeff: Yeah, I-- there's the difference between, 'cause I mentioned earlier most teams are gonna draft a wide receiver because that's just what most teams do. There's a difference between a, a depth gadgety kind of piece that you add in the sixth and seventh round, and a guy that is a direct replacement for somebody you've already got on the roster.

Uh, that is not just an injury. You know, you don't bring in an injury fourth, fifth wide receiver to back up your third receiver. You, you bring them in to replace your third receiver. Uh, so that's certainly something to, to, to, to keep in mind there. DBro, this has been a lot of fun. Uh, run a little long, but that's okay.

Hopefully you had the time to do that. I know that, that I did. I could talk to you for

DBro: I k- I kind of assumed it was gonna happen 'cause I talk too damn much, Jeff. I just kind of assumed it. When I saw this show sheet, I was like, "Oh boy, we're going an hour plus. I

feel it.

Jeff: we, skipped over some of it too, uh, you know? But I think we got everything and certainly you talked

DBro: gonna start-- We, we got the gist. We got the gist.

Jeff: Yeah, I got the gist of it. Uh, if there's, if something missing here, I mean, you've got 100 player profiles up on FantasyPros, uh, a- and those are ev- ever rotating around as, as they come back up, so folks can find them there.

Um, you know, so I already said at FantasyPros, but where else, uh, where else can folks find you? Just remind everybody again where they can find your, your lovely face or the cartoon avatar that replaces it.

DBro: My-- Yeah, if they wanna see the radio face, I mean, you know. I mean, all my content's at FantasyPros and BettingPros. You can find me on all the YouTube channels. We got the new Dynasty channel that we launched, uh, the Tailgate, where we're not talking any fantasy, it is all just NFL takes 24/7, 365.

So, you know, whether you're listening to the main feed, you're listening to the Tailgate, uh, which the, you know, we have the podcast up and the YouTube channel or the Dynasty feed, uh, which we just launched, uh, the FantasyPros Dynasty channel. And we're also, you know, I'll tease this out, be launching a few more YouTube channels this year for FantasyPros.

Uh, you could probably catch me at any one of those, and all my content is found at FantasyPros and BettingPros

Jeff: All right. Well, thanks again so much, DBro, for hanging out with me today, and thank you for watching on YouTube or listening on Apple, Spotify, or your favorite podcast platform. Uh, if you have not yet, you've enjoyed what you've been hearing, you watched on YouTube, click that little bell, click the like, leave a comment.

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