Ep. 29 Most People Quit Over Blisters, Not The Climb

Ep. 29 Most People Quit Over Blisters, Not The Climb

Ever notice how goals rarely collapse on the mountain and almost always crumble on the blister? Braxston and Nick open up about the tiny frictions that derail big plans, missed days, bad sleep, a slice of cake and why the real work is protecting identity with micro-wins. When a fever hit, Braxston kept a streak alive with a single burpee. Not impressive on paper, but massive for momentum. That choice anchored a standard: never zero. Even on off days, we put something on the board.

From there, we challenge all-or-nothing thinking. Walk breaks aren’t failure; they’re smart training. Adjusting the plan isn’t quitting; it’s how you stay in the game. We talk through reframing streaks so they serve you instead of owning you, setting the lowest barrier to daily action, and focusing on progress over pride. We also dig into the athlete mindset—taping a finger, staying on the field—and how anyone can build that mental callus through simple, repeatable reps. The goal isn’t perfection; it’s being the kind of person whose actions match their words.

Beyond fitness, we get into resourcefulness at work, stepping into the fire to learn faster, and surrounding yourself with people who expand your standards. Don’t inherit other people’s limits about age or capacity. If you never stop, skills last longer than you think. Train to be capable at many things—run a 10K, tackle a HYROX, carry a heavy week at work—so life doesn’t catch you flat-footed. Collect tools, set a daily floor, and keep promises to yourself when it’s hardest. 

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Transcript

From Fever To One Burpee

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Literally just had an example of this this week. So back up a few days, I was sick as a dog. Like 100 fever felt awful, you know, everything that goes with that. But I committed to these every day. Um, and not a not a number, but to do them every day with a goal by the end of the year of how many hours we do, right? And so even on the day when I had hunter two fever, I didn't remember because I was like, I'm not, I don't want to move on the street. Like, I put this up here, I've committed to it. This is the standard. I have people actively messaging me and talking to me about how this has inspired them and how it started them on their journey. And I'm like, I'm not gonna be the guy that says I'm missed, and then in the background, I'm gonna get a blister and then I can stop.

SPEAKER_00 1:05

Well, I feel like we've already done about five podcasts

Meet The Rising Tribes Hosts

SPEAKER_00 1:08

at this point. Uh, this is the Rising Tribes podcast. I'm Nikki Rankar with Braxton Cave, and we have been sitting here talking about everything and nothing all at the same time in these chairs for a long time. And we finally turned the mics on.

SPEAKER_01 1:25

They said we gotta start recording, or we're gonna sit here all day.

SPEAKER_00 1:28

Yeah. Um, and it's one of those we'd sit here all day and be like, I mean, we feel really bad about ourselves at this point, but like during it, we didn't think much.

SPEAKER_01 1:38

Well, and we I think we've we could create some great content off of what we but that'd be a hell of a lot of editing to go through.

SPEAKER_00 1:44

100% Jake can do that. So we we came up. I had sent a text, I think, for accident a few days ago was like, what do you guys want to talk about? And I threw out a few things. Um, we said to stay away from Epstein. Uh I don't know if you can say that.

Blisters Versus Mountains

SPEAKER_00 2:06

Uh and I threw out a quote that I think we can go a lot of different angles with. I don't know where we're gonna go with it, but it's this most people are defeated by blisters, or most people are defeated by blisters, not mountains. And I that I read it and I'm like, dude, that's so true. And we were talking a little bit, and I think you can look at this. I'm gonna say two ways. You probably could be like, oh, there's way more than that. But one being blisters are those like hiccups that maybe pause us, detour us, slow us, uh, make us rethink like, is this right? And then we keep going. Or the blister is the thing that stops us and truly defeats us. And I think no matter what, like when you're climbing a mountain, you're probably bound to get some blisters. And it's like stubbing your toe. It's that one thing where like it doesn't hurt as much as you would think it would until you have it. And I think if you can't handle a blister climbing a mountain, I I don't know how to help you.

SPEAKER_01 3:24

And it's you know, to put it in a different context, it's like it's it's the journey, right? It's the the blister is the as we talked about in our previous conversation prior to hit and record, was you know, the jer the call it the weight loss journey. It's not the the journey itself of losing 50 pounds, it's the the one night you go out for a friend's birthday and you eat the cake, and then the next day you're like, I ruined everything. Okay, might as well start over or not do this at all, or um yeah, the blisters. It's the excuse, right?

SPEAKER_00 4:04

Correct, yeah. The blisters are the are those. I mean, a friend gives you some advice and you're like, oh man, I kind of got to take it because they gave it. And then later on

The Cake Isn’t The Problem

SPEAKER_00 4:16

you look and you're like, why did I listen? Because you see the full picture. I think a lot of times when we look at a mountain, you think about what's it gonna take to get to the top, not actually like each step. And when you get to the end and you get to the top of the mountain, is when you can connect the dots backwards. Like I love thinking about that. But because then you can look back and be like, oh, where were the toughest spots? Where did I almost quit? Where, you know, oh, right there, that's when I got that one blister that like it felt like it was never gonna go away, and I had to change how I walked. And you know, there's there's all this adversity that you go through. And I think for the most part, when people hit adversity, it's it's the easy out, right? You go and you you go to a friend's house and they've got the cake, and you eat the cake, and then you wake up and you feel bad about eating the cake. Cool, move on. And I think people will sit in that and they'll be like, well, now I'm just like, like you said, I ruined everything. Well, did you? Or did you just eat some cake? Like, you didn't ruin anything.

SPEAKER_01 5:13

Yeah, you just filled your glycogen stores.

SPEAKER_00 5:15

Like, go go get a workout in. Yeah.

Streaks, Standards, And Slips

SPEAKER_00 5:18

The amount of people that ruin it, and and I had said this before we hit record, was that I feel like a lot of people do really well with streaks where they start something, and and if the longer that they go, they'll call it a habit. When really it's it's that they have this desire inside that like it I have to keep this going, or else something will bad will happen, or I'm gonna let myself down, I'm gonna do something. And then the moment that they do, and an analogy would be like my wife walked 10,000 steps for multiple years, every single day, and she got to like 880 some or 890, it was just before 900 days, and we accidentally went to bed late and she woke up and realized she only did like 8,000 some steps. I remember the mat. And that, but that right there ended her 10,000-step walking because who wants to start at day one? Like, oh, I don't want to redo it, and it's like, did it have that much power over you or did you give it that much power? No, and that's where I think a lot of people struggle with the gym, is because it's not a go to the gym every single day, it's a I'm gonna go two times or three times, four times, or five times a day, but what days? And what if you don't feel like it one day? It's really easy to fail at stuff that you don't have a streak or a guideline because you can always find a reason not to, you can always find a blister, right?

SPEAKER_01 6:53

And I think it it depends on the person, right? Everyone's different. I think this the streak thing is powerful for some people.

Never Zero And Micro-Wins

SPEAKER_01 7:00

Um, like I'll use myself, like I literally just had an example of this this week. So back up a few days, I was sick as a dog, like 102 fever felt awful, you know, everything that goes with that. But I committed to my burpees every day, um, and not a not a number, but to do them every day with a goal by the end of the year of how many I was gonna do, right? And so even on the day when I had a hundred and two fever, I did one burpee. I love that because I was like, I'm not, I don't want to lose my streak. Like, I put this out here, I've committed to it. This is the standard. Um, I have people actively messaging me and talking to me about how this has inspired them and had started them on their journey. And I'm like, I'm not gonna be the guy that says I'm this, and then in the background, when I get a blister, that I stop. And so in my guest room where I had been quarantined to, um I did a burpee on the floor. One two days in a row because I I didn't, and it wasn't like I I struggle with uh the feeling of let I don't want to let myself die. That's what I always looked at. I'll be I will disappoint myself, and there was no way I was gonna do that. Like I have a very guilty conscience, and so and I don't ever want to be the person who speaks things out, but the action doesn't follow.

SPEAKER_00 8:52

And I think that it's easy right now for every single person to go, but what is one burpee? And what I would say is it's a burpee. And in that moment, it was everything, and it is so powerful. It is because how you know it's powerful is

Athlete Mindset Under Pressure

SPEAKER_00 9:10

that he's talking about it. Like, take that in. One burpee takes very little effort for most anybody listening to this, but it's also something that there are people out there who wish they could do just to be able to get down and then actually be able to get back up. And we act like there's no power. Example, if you're somebody who's like, oh, but it's one burpee, it's like, yeah, it's one burpee, but how long would you think about not doing that one burpee if you wouldn't have done it? A long time, yeah, and it's one burpee. That's the stuff that that's the blister. It's that people think it's not big enough, it's not enough. What's enough? More than zero.

SPEAKER_01 9:58

Yeah, that's it. And that's one of the things I was thinking about was your you know, your statement you made at the beginning of the year of never zero. I was like, I don't, I don't care what I put on the board, it's just not gonna be a zero. Exactly. And you know, I get a phone call from my mom to she's calling because I was over at her house the the night before I started feeling really crappy, and and she's like, you know, how you doing checking in on me, and and she had called me and I would had just gotten done. I said, Oh, I just got done with my burpee and she's like, What what the hell's wrong with you? Like, why like why do you do that to yourself? And and I'm like, I can't explain that, I guess. Um, I think anyone who's a former athlete, current athlete, former athlete, like the normal a normal person will look at an athlete who sprains their ankle in a game or breaks a finger, but they tape it and they keep going, right? The normal human will look at them and be like, I don't know how the hell they ever how did they do that? Like, I wouldn't be able to function. Like, how do you there's a mentality there, and it's a just a different and I don't know that you're born with that. I don't I don't I don't know that it's necessarily something that you're born with. I think it's something that you can you can teach yourself and you can grow in yourself and it's routine, it's consistency, and I think it's call it calcium, I rub my hands, like call it calosin your your mind. Um it's just part of who I am, and I couldn't I couldn't think of it any other way.

SPEAKER_00 11:40

No, same. And I think where you find like what you're saying is you're different.

Adjust The Plan Not The Promise

SPEAKER_00 11:46

It's like you're different, however, when you get in a room with somebody else who's completely different than you, who would say one is not enough, like, oh, I need I need this in order to make it worth it, right? How many people say, like, well, that's not worth it? Like, uh, but the truth is, if they sat in the same room with you and talked to you and you explain, like, but that one has more value, just like the 100 days in a row where you didn't do what you said you were gonna do, is eating at you and you hide from it and you find distraction from it. If you just stepped into it and said, All right, what's the lowest barrier of entry to put something on the board for myself? And what's gonna happen is that person's gonna start to say, like, I how do you do it? I want to be more like you. And what you mean being somebody who's similar to you, you'd be like, It's not rocket science. I just did a burpee because I told myself that's what I was gonna do. Like you said you weren't gonna grab a drink tonight, and you did. You said you were gonna call your friend because you were upset with them, but you aren't talking, and you're waiting for them to call you. You said you weren't gonna get in an argument with your kid, and they walked in the door and you yelled at them. You like we say we're gonna do all these things, and then we get into the habit of bawling into what we wish we didn't do instead of saying, what's something that I can just move the needle forward? And it's simple, it's the act of doing it that people struggle with.

SPEAKER_01 13:19

And I think a lot of times, though, it's the things they that people will vocalize, it's not necessarily it's not tied to anything. So when times get tough, it's not rooted in something that they truly care about. So it's easy to be like, I'm not I'm not gonna do it. It doesn't matter. No one's watching, no one cares if I do this. But when what you truly want is rooted in something deep and there's a foundation there, and for me that was like I'm gonna be a man of my word and not break the promises that

Walk Breaks And Training Smart

SPEAKER_01 13:54

I make to myself. Because it's one thing to make promises to other people and break them. If you can't make a promise to yourself without breaking it, then that's that's an even bigger problem. And I think that's where people fall short more times than not because they're not being held accountable to anyone.

SPEAKER_00 14:18

I I know for me, I have always used other people as a big motivator, meaning a lot of people will say why I couldn't do something, or why I'd fail, or this won't work, or you shouldn't, or you should. And I normally just kind of went the opposite direction. Um, and I wouldn't say that that always is the right way to do it, but I think a lot of the time, a lot of times we take the advice of others that really doesn't fit who we believe we are, and you have to also know yourself to you can listen to somebody, but know, like, yeah, but I do this for me, I do this because this is with the direction that I'm going. And more often than not, we get in rooms and we get around people who are going in a different direction than we are, or that we want to go, and then we find ourselves heading in their same direction. If you keep going in the same room and you keep struggling with the same things, you have to either leave the room, change who you are while you're in that room. And I will tell you one thing people will say, Oh, you are defined by the people that you are around the most, but you can also impact the people that you're around the most. It's not just that you get impacted by them, you can impact them. And I think too often it's like, oh, get out of the room, and they're like, Oh, but they're my best friends, they're this and that. And it's like, yeah, but you're going in the room somebody different than you say you are. What if you walked in the room who you are? Like if you were in a room and you're just like, I'm gonna do a burpee, and you did a burpee people like, what the heck? But by the hundredth time you walked in the room and you did a burpee, they're gonna be like Braxton does burpees, and I guarantee you, at least one of them is gonna be like, I started doing it too.

SPEAKER_01 16:05

I mean, how many times have we had that conversation in the last four weeks with people?

SPEAKER_00 16:11

Oh my gosh, all the time.

SPEAKER_01 16:14

So, yeah, I mean it's I felt like what I presented today was a small example, but it it's relevant and timing.

Break The Fitness Box

SPEAKER_01 16:24

Um again, it's very easily. I could have been like, I got a one-on-one fever, I feel like that. Um I can do I'll do 150 derpees on Thursday and make up for it. I can skip a couple days. I couldn't think of that.

SPEAKER_00 16:46

Yeah, I'm same. I actually had something happen to me.

SPEAKER_01 16:49

And people, and what's great, people will probably listen to this and be like, you're a psycho. Hey, there's something wrong with you. Like you're obsessive, it's unhealthy. Maybe.

SPEAKER_00 16:59

But I would say so if you're somebody who says that, so are you. But what are you obsessed with? Comfort? Your phone? A video game, a TV show, a site? What? Like we are all obsessed, and I used to say this to my wife I am I am addict, I'm an I'm an addictive personality. But I'm gonna choose what I'm addicted to. I'm not just going to let the addiction come.

SPEAKER_01 17:31

Yeah, I mean, Natalie and I I hate when we get on some of these tangents because I feel like I'm on a soapbox of the things I'm doing well or winning in. But there's so many things that I feel like I'm not doing well right now. And like we just talked offline before the started of like addiction to my phone and being on emails or social media and staying up later than I should. Like definitely something I struggle with. And um, I haven't found I shouldn't say I haven't found, I haven't set good enough boundaries for myself in creating a routine to have a healthy habit around my phone. And I can make the excuses to myself of like I'm just getting work done, or I'm screwing social media because I'm trying I'm learning things, or I'm you know, I'm whatever. It's at the end of the day, a lot of that's BS. Like, there's there's time in the day when I can get everything done that I need to get done. Like I need to put my phone down and take my ass to bed, like playing something.

SPEAKER_00 18:42

You know what I used to like was when it actually went in order of stuff being posted, and then you'd get to the bottom and it would say, like, you've already seen everything. Yeah, do you remember that?

unknown 18:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:52

When I had to happen a couple times, and I was like, I think that's bad. Like, I'm already it's telling me, like, dude, already been here. Yeah. You've been on social longer than me.

SPEAKER_01 19:03

I don't remember those videos.

SPEAKER_00 19:04

Oh, yeah. It used to be an order, so like the order of you posted is what you saw. And it would stop you and say, like, you've reached the end, you've seen everything. But I so what I admire is like I know that that is something that you we just were talking about with your phone.

Train For Anything, Not One Thing

SPEAKER_00 19:22

And I know I have like the thing that I was gonna say, and I think what I want to preface before this is that I think that phones are obviously a struggle for all of us. Whether we want to point fingers at other people and say, well, they're worse than I am, or our kids, like it's just it's a struggle for all of us, and we all recognize it. We just we all ignore it, other than you know, we can stop and be like, man, that was like three hours, and I don't know how I did that. Like playing a video game as a kid, you're just like, man, it's already 8 30 at night. Like, all right, I'll play till one. Uh for me, like, I think some of the things that we struggle with, other than the phones, I think that's a good example that relates to everybody. Other people would say that's not a struggle. Like, what I would what I'm going to explain, I was struggling in, but your struggles get bigger the more that you raise the standard of who you are. And what I would hear you saying is basically like you haven't set, you haven't set a new standard with your phone. Right? And like I would say that I have been more lax with how I utilize my phone. I'm like you had said, like, oh, I'm researching on social media. I do a ton of research on my phone and on my computer, and I'm doing the same ways, and and I'm interested in it. Is it really giving me any value while I'm maybe learning something? But I'm not utilizing much of it. And I could easily be reading a book and not be utilizing that information just as well. But today I went, we were at the gym, and Chelsea's like, What are you gonna do? And I'm like, I'm honestly so sore. Like, I my legs are trash, and they were trash two days before, and I was trying to let them recover, and then I stupid they're trash, and I was like, I'm gonna run, and I started running, and I had stopped, and I stopped and I started stretching, and I looked at my watch and I was like, All right, start running again. And I started running and then I stopped and I started stretching, and I was like, Is this worth it? I'm like, I'm hurting, and I just kept doing that, and I ran three and a half miles just running and then stopping. And I when I say stop, like I got off the track, I stood over on the side and I stretched, and I don't know how long a minute, two minutes, and then I would start running. And then on times one lap at the gym, the indoor track is a hundred and fifty hundred and sixty meters, I think. And I'd run sometimes five laps. Six laps, seven laps, three laps. It was just, oh, I gotta stop. And

Into The Fire To Learn

SPEAKER_00 22:07

for me, it's a very hard thing when I say, I think we set these expectations. All right, I'm gonna go and I'm gonna run nonstop. And then as soon as we stop, we're like, well, I said I was gonna run nonstop. Well, cool. It changed. And to me, that was a that was a failure in my head, but the win was that I kept doing it. The win was that I didn't run once stop and go downstairs and like feel bad for myself because my legs are sore and I wanted to run. Well, if you want to run, I can run. I'm just I'm not gonna run as fast. And I'm gonna probably need to stop and recover. Now, is that smart or not? I don't know. I I did it and I am glad that I did it. And some things, some things that we need aren't always the best. Right? Sometimes we're in a position where we feel like, all right, I need something hard, I need something to push me. I'm mentally prepared for something that I'm not normally, and you need to step into that.

SPEAKER_01 23:01

It's like very similar to the conversation I had um with Greg at the gym a couple weeks ago. You know, so Greg from the gym, he does Ironmans and coaches and coaches. Coaches people to do Iron Man, triathlon, all kinds of crazy endurance races. And and we were on the conversation of running, and he knows the journey that I've been on, and and he was telling me about how you know, doing some heart rate training, and he's like, the biggest mistake people make is that they they don't stop and walk. He's like, You'll you'll see me running all over the Granger paths, and a lot of times you'll see me walking. He's like, but I'm also doing, you know, I forget how many miles. Um but so often people refuse to or they look at it as a failure if they just walk take a second, stretch and then get back on. And it's not it's not a failure, it's training smart, it's even you know, it's just I think society's beat it into our head that if you can't do,

Resourcefulness Beats Resources

SPEAKER_01 24:13

you know, in the case of running, like if you can't run a mile straight, you know, you're a failure. If you can't do 5k, you can't do it like name me one person that's ever completed a ultra marathon that didn't walk through it at some point. Right? The most elite crazy runners of all time walked during some of their races. Now I'm not talking about like the the Kenyan dude that just won uh set the crazy marathon record, right? That's a whole different deal. But walking, and this is like I use running as an example because it's like life. We you can only sprint for so long. And I've been there. I think you've been there as an entrepreneur, like Jake's been there through business. Like used there's there's seasons, right? We go through these cycles of you sprint, sometimes you're sprinting, sometimes you're jogging, sometimes you're walking, sometimes you're freaking crawling, but you're still moving. And I think people don't give that enough credit in whether it's in exercise or life, like there's different seasons, there's different paces, there's different races, and you have to run your own race.

SPEAKER_00 25:30

And I think we also put what we know in a box as truth. So if you're like, well, but that's what you do. You you you run or you don't, or you you don't stop, you don't walk, right? Like these are this, but this is and you hammer it home, like this is the box I live in. And I say that because I used to always joke and people would walk into the gym, um, because I owned CrossFit gyms, and I was very much about movement and about teaching you what you wanted to learn. You weren't forced to do anything, but ultimately that like I wanted to burst people's bubbles or break the box they had around fitness and say, hey, I would rather you know more and make a decision of what you want to do with that knowledge rather than thinking that you know only what's inside your box, and if that nothing else can come in, and if you can't meet those expectations that you have created, then you fail. And I think there are millions, actually millions, lots and lots of movements, styles, training, progressions,

Don’t Inherit Other People’s Limits

SPEAKER_00 26:45

um you name it, that none of us know about. There are I I used to always joke that people would say the crosshair games is what I competed in that you would crown the fittest on earth. And I argued we did not, the winner was not the fittest on earth. All that competing, it's like football, all that competing does is it puts you in an environment to showcase what you can do, to showcase all the work you've put in. So I used to say the cross of games was a test of training methodology. Whose training gets you the best results? Because what was so crazy about it is that you'd have 40 guys all around the world coming in, training 40 different ways, getting very similar results. And then you would argue, well, you have to do this in order to get this result, or you have to do this. And what it showed is like, no, fitness is fitness. You would, you being a lineman, had you probably did if from the naked eye, the exact same things as every other guy in your position. But what you would know being where you are is that you all did things slightly different. And you tried to mimic each other, and you might find out that like what he does doesn't work for me. His arms are longer, or you know, like he's got he's more mobile. And then it's like, well, do I need to get more mobile? Do so you you're basically saying, like, okay, how can I make up for my deficiencies and how can I maximize my strengths? How can I do all these things so that when I go out and I perform, I perform at my highest ability, not because I'm great in the moment, because I've trained to be great. And I think we pretend like when we get put in a position of like fight or flight, or we're in a game, or we're in a stressful situation at work, or we act like it wasn't everything before that that prepped us for this. And you can tell when somebody's not prepared. And to me, everything in life that we do is to prepare us for those moments in sports. You you know the date, you know the time, you know way more things that

Aging Strong And Never Stopping

SPEAKER_00 29:06

are coming. You know all that in life. We don't, right? Your kid freaks out, and you've been saying, I need to be better, I need to be better, but what'd you do to get better with how you handle it? Nothing. And then you freak out, and then you get mad at yourself. But like so many times in life, we expect ourselves to perform better without preparing to perform. And I I struggle with that because I know exactly the areas in my life that I'm not preparing to perform, and I know the areas that I am, and I can see it. It's night and day when I'm put in a position to have to be the best version of myself.

SPEAKER_01 29:41

I think that's I mean, that's the goal of life. I mean, it's like to be prepared for any situation that comes. No, are you gonna be no, but you know, I think about that, you know, I'll stick with like the exercise and training side of things. Like, sorry, I got some eyelash or something. Um, I don't ever want to be pigeonholed into like one one thing, one exercise. Like, if someone hits me up and they're like, hey, you want to run a 10K? Yep, I I'm ready, I can do that. Hey, you want to go do a high rocks? Yep, I can do that. Hey, you want to go run a marathon? Yep, I can do that. Like, I want to train when it comes to the physical side so that I can do anything. Now, am I gonna be the best at that? No, I'm not, and it's no different than business, right? Like, I've been on a my business career journey for the last 10 years, I've learned a ton of different things. Am I the best person in finance? Nope, but I know finance. Am I the best person in you know, quality regulations and nope, but I know, you know, so you you you you earn these tools and you put them in your tool bag as you go along. Never are you the best in any of those circumstances, but you learn enough as you go to be, you know, we always say know enough to be dangerous. Like, I want to know enough to be dangerous in all things.

SPEAKER_00 31:12

Oh, dude, totally agree. I'm I always say

Handstand Goals And Humor

SPEAKER_00 31:16

I want to, I never want to say no. But I'm never I know that going in, I'm not winning. But I'm not, I'm not losing. I'm not, I'm not gonna look like an idiot. And if I do, okay, do I want to put the time in to perform better next time? Right.

SPEAKER_01 31:33

And I and but how many people say no because they know that they're not gonna be the best at it? Most people, therefore, they only get worse, right? And like you the to me, like that's you get to the end of your life, and how empty would that feel to be like didn't do that, didn't do that, didn't do that, didn't didn't even try.

unknown 31:56

Right?

SPEAKER_01 31:56

I'd rather try and look like an idiot than not try at all.

SPEAKER_00 32:01

Yes, and that comes so that I think falls into the category of like if you've ever talked to anybody who's older than you, I would say the major, guys, anybody message us a percentage on this that tell you just wait until you're this age about something, right? Like, oh, just wait, you won't be doing that when you're this age. Oh, just wait. I'm 42 now and I still get people to say it.

SPEAKER_01 32:33

You know, the number thing we get it on right now is with our kids' ages. Oh, just wait till they're 15, just wait till they're 20, wait till they're getting married, wait till you know, it's like that's what I'm trying to do. Yeah. But I think I go back, I this just this one's been burned in my brain. Of

Closing Reflections And Ask

SPEAKER_01 32:54

I had a guy, a colleague from work one time, um, tell me his advice he was trying to give me was be careful how close you get to the fire. In terms of like, you know, conversations with a board or with the CEO or with a president of the business. Be careful how close you get to the fire. And my response back was like, dude, I want to be in the fire. That's the only place I'm I feel like I'm gonna learn. Like, I might get burnt, I might melt, whatever it may be, but like I'm gonna find out. I'd rather that rather than like the Garth Brooks song, standing outside the fire. I don't want to stand on the outside looking in. Like, throw me in it, figure it out. Run a marathon at 265. That shit's gonna hurt, but you learn.

SPEAKER_00 33:54

Yes, and I think that the more that you do that, the more you get in rooms to learn. You get around people to learn, and you get around people who want to learn. So I I'm probably gonna butcher it up. I think it was Henry Ford. Wasn't it that people were like, You're not even that smart, like, none of these things? And he's like, Well, okay, bring all your lawyers in here, bring everybody in here, ask me anything you want. So they had a conference, they brought everybody in and they started asking him questions. And the only thing he like asked for was a phone. And he picked up the phone and he called somebody, and they're like, What are you doing? And he's like, I'm calling somebody. He's like, Yeah, I don't have all the answers, but I know who does. And when you get in the rooms with people who have answers, and you have answers, and you can you now have resources. You don't need to be the best at anything because there is somebody that you know that is better at it, right? Or there's somebody you know who knows somebody who knows.

SPEAKER_01 34:50

Yeah, as Ed Milette says, it's not your lack of resources, it's your lack of resourcefulness.

SPEAKER_00 34:59

And I think so many of us think that we aren't resourceful. Oh, well, because the again going back to people telling you what you can and can't do, the older you get, or like you don't when you have kids, or how many times people have explained to me how they can no longer work out or do certain things because they have kids, and then I tell them one month after I found found CrossFit, my first daughter was born, like, and I trained all the time with a newborn, like in a car seat and just looking at her like dying in sweat and she's giggling, like all the time. I think people will tell you what they can't do, and they will give you their experience, but their experience is not your experience. And one thing that I've I just recently started saying this this year because I've heard it more and more, and I believe people don't know how old I am who are talking to me. Like I think they think I'm late 20s, early 30s, and are really trying to give me advice, right? They're really trying to be helpful, and it has got me to change my entire mindset. Instead of it was always be the fittest in the entire world, then it was like, okay, maintain this fitness. Now it's saying, wait a minute. When I'm in my 70s and my 80s, what if I can handstand it? What if I can still do these things that people are saying I won't be able to? And now you could be like, but Nick, you probably won't. You might be right. But the reason why almost every single one of those people is telling me why I can't do something is because one day they stopped. They stopped doing it, therefore they don't think they can. They're too scared to try. So what if I never stop? What if I kick up multiple times a week until I'm 80? Well, maybe you'll be scared at 80. I might, but I might not. But I'll tell you that I'll most likely be able to point to you the moment that I realized I probably shouldn't be doing this anymore. And I think very few people can tell you the moment they realized when they needed to stop. What they'll just tell you is I got a blister. I got a blister. And that's where I want to either be shown, hey, that's passed, and that's okay. I don't want to look at somebody and say, I don't know when I couldn't, but I know that I can't.

SPEAKER_01 37:29

Which is why Nick has committed to teaching me how to handstand walk.

SPEAKER_00 37:32

I just told him the other day, you didn't you made it seem like you weren't going to, but dude, it's so fun.

SPEAKER_01 37:37

I love handstand walking. I am up for the learning lessons to learn. Everybody hear that. We're gonna have to take some videos of this. Dude, I love handstand walking is not hard. If we get a million listeners of the podcast, share this. I will handstand walk. Have you seen those videos where people are like online if I get to a hundred thousand people?

SPEAKER_00 38:04

I'm gonna do one hundred thousand burpees. Yeah, and then they get there and they're like, Oh, I'm gonna do sit-ups. Yeah, that's a way to grow a following. It is. We've been all over the place. Well, this was good. Oh yeah, oh yeah. Hopefully, you can take something away from it. Um, and subscribe, follow, share this out. I mean, the only way that anybody gets to hear our voices if you think they should is that you let them know about us.

SPEAKER_01 38:33

Yeah, appreciate y'all. Hopefully, today showed we were able to show a little bit of vulnerability, and that you know, this isn't always all the good that's going on in life, but there's struggle, there's real struggles that we all go through, and you know, we're we're in the day-to-day fight just like everybody else. Yeah, thank you so much.

SPEAKER_00 38:54

This is the Rise and Tribe Podcast.

SPEAKER_01 38:56

See y'all, I think.