Ep. 40: Breaking The Habits That Are Breaking You

Ep. 40: Breaking The Habits That Are Breaking You

We talk honestly about the habits that hold us back from becoming our best selves, even when we have big goals and good intentions. We unpack what success really costs, why perfectionism can stall progress, and how to keep moving when growth feels like drowning. 
• Why we should not model our whole life after one “hero” 
• The hidden sacrifices behind money, status, and achievement 
• Why copying what successful people do now fails beginners 
• The value of advice from someone just ahead of you 
• “Drown then breathe” as a career and leadership playbook 
• Skin in the game and why commitment changes behavior 
• Corporate learning versus entrepreneurship with real consequences 
• Amazon as proof that the first idea is rarely final 
• Our current bad habits, including time waste and no schedule 
• Late-night FOMO, social media research loops, and sleep costs 
• Perfectionism, shipping work, and GETMO good enough to move on 
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Transcript

From Trainee To Executive

SPEAKER_03 0:00

Yeah, I mean I've had a lot of people ask me, you know, over my tenure um business career, like, how did you go from trainee to an executive? I drown and I figured out a way to get come up for water. And then I drown again and I come up for water and I drown again. And I'm still this day, like that's the playbook I ruin.

SPEAKER_00 0:20

Like welcome to the Rising Tribes Podcast. I am Nick Gerald Yorankar. I was gonna try to throw out something, but I didn't. And I'm here with Braxton Cave. We are, we've actually been chatting a bunch about habits and opening up, and it leads me to ask: are there habits or things that you are doing that do not serve you, do not help you to become your

Nobody Has A Perfect Life

SPEAKER_00 1:12

best self? And I think for me, I've got a lot of things that I know are not um serving me at the highest level, and they they don't allow me to do things that do.

SPEAKER_03 1:26

I think we uh I think it's important even just to start with that nobody nobody's perfect. And even though as much as social media today people want to portray this perfect life or you know, and people are always looking for someone to look up to. Um, I think there's uh certain areas of life to look up to certain people, or like they set a standard of how you want to operate. But I've had so many people ask me, like, who do you look like who do you look up to? Like, who would you model your you know, your life after? I mean, obviously for me as a man of faith, Jesus is the only right answer for that. But it's like I don't there's no CEO, business owner, fitness person that I'm like, I want their life. I don't because we all have our things. And I just don't I don't think it's fair. You we we went on a long talk earlier and it it was just rolling around in my head of like you know, we'll look at someone who's in great shape and be like, man, I want to be like that person, not knowing that maybe their marriage is horrible or they're financially poor. Like you know, there's there's so many different aspects of life to just look at someone and be like, that's who they are, but you don't know who people are.

SPEAKER_00 2:54

No, and the sacrifice the sacrifices to get there, sometimes people will get to a certain place, and you've probably seen this in business. They get somewhere and they're like, it costs a lot more than I thought it would. Whether that's family, whether that's even mental health, your physical health, your overall health, your relationships with friends, family. Um I think we as people look at the end or the the top of the mountain, and we have absolutely no idea what the climb looked like. And if we knew, we probably wouldn't be so quick to wish for what somebody else had. Um Yeah, there's nobody that I look at and I'm like, ooh, I want their life. There are aspects of things where I'm like, I wonder what that would be like to have that much money, or to do, but I can also just as easily, most of the time when I when I put myself in a position of saying, what if that happened? I will immediately flip to the well, if that happened, what then would everything else look like? And sometimes I'm like, man, I don't know how good of a person I'd be if I had that, or I don't know what that would do to the people around me, or how would I then look to other people, or how would I speak, or so I'm always I'm never looking just at the positive, I'm always flipping at like the negative, which is why it's sometimes hard for me to like dive all the way in now into something because I'm like, man, but if if something goes right or wrong,

The Hidden Cost Of Success

SPEAKER_00 4:25

do I really want to go where this might have to take me?

SPEAKER_03 4:30

Yeah, it I was just also thinking about you know, it's going going back to the theory of like never meet never meet your heroes. Um because they people never live up to the you know this image that you have in your head of who they are. Um yeah, and and back to what you were just saying, um it's hard to wrap your head around what the sacrifice is to get these things, right? Um in my career, I've always it's always been interesting to me since I've gone from professional sports into the business world. You know, you look at a lot of these very successful, you know, CEOs, entrepreneurs, and they're now extremely wealthy and they're giving back right to the communities. And but when you back up and look at their story 10, 15, 20 years ago, that's not the person that they were. So I've always had this question in my head, uh, and that doesn't stand for everyone, um, but I would say I would stand on the the fact that I think it's the majority um heartbreak, cutthroat, um, screwing people over on deals, like what doing whatever it took to get to the top, right? And I've always, you know, my stance has always been why does it have to be that way? Like, how can you get to the top, like having high character and doing it the right way? And that's hard because I think that's very, very minimal amount of people actually make it to the top doing it the right way.

SPEAKER_00 6:15

In your experience, if you were to ask one of those people, how'd you get there, would they say that?

SPEAKER_03 6:21

I think it would take them a long time to tell the story of how that it depends on how transparent they are.

SPEAKER_00 6:26

And that that I think is the problem that a lot of people have when you look at social media or when you meet somebody, is they're gonna be like, just give it everything you got.

SPEAKER_02 6:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:37

Well, something like buy this thing, like here, yeah, pay me $20,000 and I'll do this. Or here's our my step-by-step process. It's like, no.

SPEAKER_03 6:48

Right. I mean, you and I just had this conversation the other day of you know, we were in it was we were in the gym talking about it of how many people will come up and be like, I want to look like you. Like, what do I need? And they try or they don't come up, but they're watching you and they're trying to mimic what you do, not knowing that like if you're doing what I'm doing right now, you're never gonna get to where I'm at. But a lot of the I think the difference between your average or everyday coach and the greatest ones are ones who can explain to you the journey of how they got there, versus like, oh, just do you know, just do what I do. Do it, and and it's like, no, you can't, you're never gonna make it doing the things that someone who's already made it is doing.

SPEAKER_00 7:34

And just and we forget, and well, I guess before we jump into this, if if you have found value in this podcast, please share it, subscribe, all the stuff that the people say. I want to just throw that out there.

SPEAKER_01 7:47

Nice plug.

SPEAKER_00 7:48

Yeah, yeah. Normally we wait for the phone. It's like a sponsor commercial coming in. It's not too long to say that. But one thing that I find in myself is that I forget four years from now what I was doing on a day-to-day basis. I might remember a big moment, and I'll be like, oh man, all you need to do is find this one person, and then they'll get you here. But it's like, yeah, but for three years it led me to understand the opportunity when I met that person. So I think sometimes we forget the steps it actually took. So it's easy for us to look back, all right, three or four steps ago, hey, just do this. But that might be a

Stop Copying The Finished Product

SPEAKER_00 8:25

hundred steps farther than where somebody else actually is. That's why sometimes the best advice you can ever get is from the person who's just ahead of you. And you don't need to know what is the thing the most successful person is doing right now. It's what do you need to do just to get moving? And we're all looking for the finish line. We're not looking at step one, step two, step three to step a hundred.

SPEAKER_03 8:52

Yeah, I mean, I've had a lot of people ask me, you know, over my tenure um business career, like, how did you go from trainee to an executive? And like this the answer to that is I drown and I figured out a way to get come up for water. And then I drown again and I come up for water, and I drown again. And I'm to this day, like that's the playbook I run. Like, I'm I'm never know everything, I'm never gonna go know everything. I'm constantly learning new things, I'm constantly bodying off more than I can chew, and I drown, and then I figure it out, and I swim up to the water long enough to take a breath, and I do it all over again. Like, I don't, it's like you just said, I don't know what I was doing four years ago. No idea. I was drowning, trying to figure it out. Like, that's what I was doing.

SPEAKER_00 9:42

I love that you said that because every time anybody asks me, how did you and it's most of the time it's like, how did you start your gym? Or in a lot of times it'll just be in a general way of like, how do you start a business, or what was it like? How did you do it? Like who and I always say, I put my toe in the water, and I thought I was just gonna like maybe see how it goes, but once you fully step forward and you commit into opening a business, like next thing you know, I'm drowning. And you're just you're just doing the next thing and you're paddling and you're like, holy cow, like I can't back up. The the difference between I think for most people, these this new gig economy or right, anybody can start a podcast, anybody can start their own business and they say they have a business, but they're not making any money. But it's it comes back to you don't if you don't put skin in the game, it's easy to walk away from. Like if you're if you get to the second or third stage in your career where you're like, okay, I see the trajectory. If it gets hard and tomorrow you just quit, well, you're back at the beginning. And with a business, somebody like me, I was $100,000 in. You

Skin In The Game And No Plan B

SPEAKER_00 10:54

don't walk away from that. So the easiest, and it's kind of like they say too with like investing, where's most people's wealth? It's in their house. Why? Because you can't sell it. You can sell other investments, you can get rid of them, you can lose money. You really can't just like up and sell your house and just boom, I'm gonna take the money. With a business, if you put a ton of money in, people will drown for decades, two decades, three decades, because they don't want to lose everything that they have built. And they may be getting nothing. And then others, they get super successful. But when you have a ton of skin in the game, you can't walk away. And I think so. When I say I put my foot in, I was drowning, it was because I I committed money. Once you commit the money, you're not just gonna be like, oh, 100 grand, no big deal. Especially when, like, that's your hundred grand. That's it.

SPEAKER_03 11:42

Right.

SPEAKER_00 11:43

If if I do that, I'm in big trouble. This has to work. So most people don't have the best business ideas, they just don't quit.

SPEAKER_03 11:54

I think you I mean you said it it was this has to work. There is no plan B. And I think that's where you see anyone go from struggling, whether it's in entrepreneurship or whatever, it's like once they come to the realization that there's no other way, you figure it out. And I mean, you can speak to this because you've lived it. Like you're never gonna you it's great to have I think it's great to have mentors. Everybody should have a mentor. But the mentor can't do the work for you. And so, like, yes, they can give you some tips that that will help you avoid less potholes, but you're not you're until you do it, you're never gonna know. Right. I think you you told me this before, like the reason you opened a gym because you loved training, you loved working out. But then once you opened a gym, you realize that that was like one percent of the job. And so it's then learning all the things on the back end and payroll and this, like all the all those things, and that if you've never done it, you don't you don't know what it takes.

SPEAKER_00 12:59

That's when the the best advice I ever got if for somebody looking to open up a gym or a business is get a really good team around you. And normally that's a good tax team, a good payroll team, a good lawyer. People that when you have no idea, you just go to them and then they're like, Oh, yeah, that's not a big deal. Because everything's a big deal when it's you.

Corporate Training Versus Entrepreneurship

SPEAKER_03 13:20

Yeah, and I would say for me, that's where you know, jumping into a large corporation, it's a very different learning method. Um, because it's not your money, your skin that's in the game, right? It's it's a whole different mindset and philosophy of how you go about it. Um which I think makes it for a great training ground. Um, I don't want it, I don't want it to come across and sound like you know, you're careless because it's not your money, but the repercussions of failure are way less. Um and depending on the the size and scale of the business, there's more of an appetite for you to hey, that it's a you you learned your lesson. That was a that was um, you know, but it's and the companies can absorb that, and hopefully you don't make too big of a mistake to where it costs that much money. But um of the best leaders will tell you like the reason why they become successful is because of the failures or things that they learned along the way, and having and being part of a company that gave enough grace to let you learn from those and continue to grow. Uh, entrepreneurship's not as not as nice.

SPEAKER_00 14:32

No, but but ultimately big corporations started with a guy who or a girl

Amazon And The Myth Of Perfect Ideas

SPEAKER_00 14:38

who had a dream. Right. And I and I love you could use any company as an example of this, but there are so many people who like, I want to be the next Amazon, I'm gonna start my, you know, whatever. But Amazon, the only reason Amazon became what they were is because Jeff Bezos saw the growth curve of the internet, and he basically was like, Why aren't more people using this? It was like I I'm probably gonna be wrong on this, but he said like there was a growth over of one year of like 27,000 percent usage, and he was like, Everyone's gonna be on this. And of course, what did most people say? No. But he was like, I'm gonna sell books, I'm gonna sell books online. Why not, right? That's not what Amazon is. Nobody, anybody probably under the age of 25 doesn't know Amazon started as a as a book selling company on the internet. That's not who Amazon is, and I think where people fail is they think I need the perfect business, I need the perfect idea, I need to to and this isn't you actually were just saying this, so I'm probably using the word perfect because you're like, that's kind of like you know, you are more of a perfectionist on the business side. Like you want things to, they need to line up, they need to be perfect, whereas an entrepreneur is more like, no, we'll line them up and make them perfect when we're going, but most of the time, as you're going, you realize like, oh, what I thought was perfect isn't even possible because we're not even we've pivoted so far away from that, and that's what Amazon's a great example. Most big businesses they became what the market wanted and what they saw because they had a an entrepreneur is just somebody who foreshadows like obviously they take something that they enjoy or they take something they see coming, and they be they're like, All right, I think I can create something that will solve this. Uh but I started the gym one way, and I would every month I'm con you're constantly even in a gym that was very niche, a CrossFit gym, I was constantly tweaking and changing and figuring out like new things we can do, new ways to implement. But inside of that niche, you're limited in what you can do unless you expand on it. And I tried to expand multiple different ways, multiple different things, but you're constantly changing. And I think so many people get stuck in like, well, I can't change. It's like if every business is constantly changing, you should be changing too. You can be changing, and that's I think we're all off on this tangent, but

Two Bad Habits And How They Show Up

SPEAKER_00 17:00

that was one of my big things is like I I currently right now a bad habit of mine is that I am not I say all the time, all I want to do is create value, help people, like be an inspiration, to just do so many things. And I'm not saying that I'm not, but I am not even close to the level at which I say that I that that's what I want. I am not working towards creating true value and true impact in the way that I that if somebody knew me, they'd be like, oh dude, he's probably all over the place. He's probably doing so much, and I would say I'm not.

SPEAKER_03 17:42

So stay on that, why?

SPEAKER_00 17:45

Because I waste a lot of time, and that's my other one. I waste a lot of time because I don't have a schedule.

SPEAKER_03 17:52

What would you say you're doing in place of that?

SPEAKER_00 17:58

Oh man. So in place of creating it, I'm saying, I'm saying that I'm going to. So I'm planning to do it. Uh whether that's okay, I'll do some research on, you know, an AI site and I'm looking up different things, and then all of a sudden it's like, oh wow, this is kind of interesting. And then I get off on a tangent and I start researching something else. And then you're like, ah, I should probably eat. Oh, well, I gotta pick up the girls in a little bit, so I don't really have enough time for that. So hey, well, I'll just go out and I'll do this thing. I'll grab over here. So like I'm I'm filling my time with I'm filling my time to get me to the next thing I have to do, but I really don't have to do anything that I've set down. So then, to your point, well, then all of a sudden I'm like, shoot, okay, I've got 30 minutes. Let me create that that value I was talking about. And then it's crappy in my eyes, compared to like what it could be. So I don't spend enough time just sitting and really finding out like where can I be the best at helping and creating that value, and then take more time to then say, okay, then what does that look like? And then more time to say, like, okay, well, when I do it, like it's like then it feels like a waste of time. I feel like I'm wasting time trying to do that. So then I get off on a tangent and waste time.

SPEAKER_03 19:22

Yeah. So I mean, so while we're on it, I mean that that was that was number one for you as far as what you're doing.

SPEAKER_00 19:30

And two, one, I waste time, I waste too much time with no schedule. And then number two was I'm not working towards creating the value which I say that I want to. So I say I'm a person who creates value and is helping, but like if you saw me on a day-to-day basis, you'd be like, Where's all this value you're talking about? And I'd be like, Well, I make a post.

SPEAKER_03 19:50

Yeah, that was so that was like one of the main topics that we wanted to get to today was just like what identifying what our current bad habits are. And because I think that's step one, right? You have to be able to identify where where you have a bad habit and and and knowing you have that bad habit, and then you can implement a replacement of a good habit.

SPEAKER_00 20:12

And my my bad habits are luxury bad habits. Like, I don't have a schedule. Um, I used to have a crazy schedule. I've I worked really, really hard way too many hours for not much money, and then got to a point where it was like, okay, you know, now I can work less and I'm making way more than what I was. Yet it's not fulfilling. And when I was making less money, I wouldn't say I was fulfilled, but my schedule was so full, and there was such an impact, but it felt small. It felt like, ah, but it's just inside here, like it's so limited. And now it's like I have the ability to make a giant impact, and I'm not. To the level that I I to the level that I know that I could be, I'm not. And that's a choice. And I don't feel like, oh, I feel horrible, I'm not. It's like, no, I need to change this. I need to I need to actually create the time to do that. And then do it.

SPEAKER_03 21:09

Yeah.

Late Night FOMO And Broken Sleep

SPEAKER_03 21:11

So I'll go through I'll go through my bad habits. I have many. Um yeah, we're only doing two. I was show kind of just showing underbelly here of but you know, what one of my biggest one I would say right now that I have is just not being able to shut it down at night. And you know, so like in our house, you know, our kids go to bed at 7:30. Um, so bedtime's usually wrapped up by about eight. My wife is typically in bed between 8 30 and 9. Like, lights out, she's knocked out. And for me, like that's that's the time when I, you know, nine times out of ten, I'm opening up my iPad or turning my laptop on, or I'm on my phone, and I'm I'm because I I suffer from FOMO. Like I have in in all things. So, like, not not in terms of like going out and partying and and you know, being with friends and that kind of stuff. It's like more around like I'm like obsessed with I'm going through work emails. I'm checking on different work projects. You know, I'm ripping off an email, checking on a project that maybe I'm looking for an update from like three months ago, and people are like, why the hell did you send me an email at 2 30 in the morning and ask about something? From it's just my brain is just all over the place, constantly. And it's it's similar to what you had said. It's like you want to be able to create and provide value. Well, to me, it's like I at night, like that's when I I'm an early morning guy and I'm a late night guy. Those are like when my brain is on fire. I don't know if that's a good or a bad thing. Um, but it's it's that side of thing from a business perspective, but then it's also the I'm a big I scroll social media, and not in terms of like entertainment, looking at funny stuff. Like I I don't really like funny things on social media, like it's not part of my algorithm, it's not what I look at. Um, it's all around like content creation and different business ideas and success stories of different businesses and um constantly looking and scrolling on different products that could be part of our portfolio and our business. So it's like that's and that's a slippery slope because I can get on there and just scroll away for a long time. And again, it's it's not in terms of like to me, I I don't look at it as necessarily wasteful time because it's like I'm I'm learning and researching and and identifying these new things that I feel could eventually create value, whether it's in side business of coaching and leadership, or if it's within my my corporate job of growing business and leadership and product offerings. So that's a spot where I just have a hard time shutting it down, which then leads to you know bad sleep, early mornings, the which then in turn I'm not functioning at my highest to be able to provide value on the other side of things.

SPEAKER_00 24:24

Um going back to your you said your brain, like I can relate, you said your brain just fires better in the morning and at night.

SPEAKER_03 24:32

Why do you I have my guess, but probably because it's it's the only quiet time I have in all in my entire day. Like no distractions, it's just me and so that's I mean I I I come up typically I come up with my best ideas and thoughts on my morning runs. And then once I when I do my run, I get back to my truck. I almost always try to like take some notes or you know record a a story or something just to get what whatever I was thinking about out of my head because otherwise if I don't I forget.

SPEAKER_00 25:08

It disappears, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 25:09

It's gone.

SPEAKER_00 25:09

It's like a really good dream.

SPEAKER_01 25:10

You wake up and you're like, forget the dream. Yeah, I'm the same way. I mean, I'll wake up in the middle of the night and put something in my notes and then I'll go back to bed.

SPEAKER_00 25:17

Yeah. My when you can tell when I'm on, because I will just like wake up at night with the best idea, and I'll either like do like a video or like a voice recording or I'll start typing. And yeah, I'm the exact same way. There's nothing else going on. I have no like can't like contact anybody, call them, hey, check this out. It's like it's just you. Right.

SPEAKER_01 25:40

I think that's a lot of people though with a driven mentality. Yeah. It has a lot of drive.

SPEAKER_00 25:44

Well no, but I think that there's a lot of people with a driven mentality that that have habits that don't allow them. So they might have a nightly habit where maybe they stay up drinking, or they're super social. So they maybe don't, they're like, oh, but like that's my time. Like I I work best, like being around other people, and they might miss where some other value is, or they wake up 20 minutes before they have to be ready. That's how I used to be. I hated the mornings. I hated the mornings because I'd wake up and I'd rush myself. Well, now that I don't rush myself, and I could, I could I could wake up whenever I wanted. And now I wake up and I'm so excited because I understand my brain is like re is gonna be ready. And then I sit and I'm like, I could do all these things, and then I start wasting time. And I'm not scrolling, I'm like research, like I don't scroll. I research stuff, I'm looking things up,

Perfectionism Versus Getmo

SPEAKER_00 26:40

and I could spend all day just doing that. But that's just like a self, like, okay, cool, what are you gonna do with it?

SPEAKER_03 26:48

Yep. And then my my second one is and and we we talked about earlier, you you had mentioned it, it's the I've really been trying to stretch myself and grow myself um on the entrepreneurship side of things and and creating it with our coaching business, and um but because I have been groomed my whole life between you know the different ranks of football into a corporate structure, like I am a perfectionist when it comes to how I operate, how a business should operate, what the structure should look like. So to go from scratch on a on a business plan to throw like to me, it's like if it's not if it's not going to you know go live in a professional manner and look great, and then then I struggle with like, well, it's not even worth it's not worth putting it out there if it's not gonna be that. And you know, like you said, like you when you're doing something for the first time, like it's never gonna be great. Um and I think part of that is just like me, I don't know if I'm gonna say selfishly or um what whatever the right word would be for it, is like I don't want to put something out there that I'm gonna look back and be like, that didn't provide any value. And that, but you don't know until you do it.

SPEAKER_00 28:15

Well, I think we're at such a different place because I get I a hundred percent get everything you say with that. What I know on this side of launching, I've probably launched over a hundred products. Probably probably hundreds of products. I've launched multiple businesses, I've done so much stuff that some of the things I spent the most time on perfecting and making it flopped. And some of the things where I was like, this is stupid, I'm just gonna put it out there, blew up. It's just like content. You could spend all your time on one piece of content, and you're like, this is the holy grail of everything. And you put it out there and you're like, only my mom saw it? Did you even like it?

SPEAKER_03 29:04

Yeah. I know. And I and I it's a lesson that I've been learning because, especially on the content side, you know, I'll I'll sit and I'll babysit a post or a reel, and I'm like, okay, this is really good. People are gonna like this. I'll put it out there, it gets like 3,000 views, and then I'll find something, I'm like, oh, this is all right, but I'll throw it a million views. I'm like, what the heck?

SPEAKER_00 29:27

What? That's business. That's why it's like it's never the first business that's the success. People will tell you, like, it's the 10th or the 20th or the 30th thing that they they tried. That was the one that did it. And it's just because every time you do it, you're like, oh. It it isn't about the presentation. It isn't about it is about are you connecting with the person that you're hoping to connect with? And if and if you do, awesome. And then after you connect with them, what you deliver them is it what they wanted? And are they willing to tell other people? Are they gonna be evangelical about what it is you do? Or they're just gonna be like, meh. And then you're like, well, if they're mad, then I gotta change something. But I got somebody. So then it's like, okay, something worked. Uh and that's where I think for me, it's I now am at a place where I'm not gonna waste too much time with the understanding that every single person who is right now, and this could be somebody listening, is sitting in their house or sitting at their office, and they are working on something that to them it is the thing. Most likely it's not. And that's okay. What so there's a man, this was probably and if it is awesome, good for you.

SPEAKER_03 30:42

Probably four four or five years ago. Um I was at the Global Leadership Summit, and Craig Rochelle uh gave a talk there, and he used the the term get mo. Have you heard get mo? G-E-T-M-O.

SPEAKER_00 30:59

Sounds familiar, but I know it's an acronym. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 31:01

Good enough to move on.

SPEAKER_00 31:03

Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 31:04

And I struggle with that because I'm like, like, good enough to move on. Like, so is it actually good?

SPEAKER_00 31:11

Let me give you a scenario though. So you get paid, right? You get paid whether it's good enough to move on or it's not good enough to move on. Imagine all of a sudden I said, okay, Braxton, you are done getting paid. You need to create something that creates money and enough money to make what you have. Would you spend three years developing that? Or would you say it might take three years to develop to the point that I'm making the money that I want to, but hopefully I'm right the first try. So that's an entrepreneur. An entrepreneur isn't somebody who a venture capitalist comes over and says, Hey, I'm willing to pay you for 10 years to come up with the best thing ever. Cool, make it perfect. An entrepreneur is somebody that says, Hey, I burned all my boats. Um, I'm sitting here, and I actually need to figure out what's over there. But in order to get over there, I have to like put something out, and I have nothing. So I can either sit here and like create this awesome thing that I still don't know what's over there and what will work, or you say, like, I'm just gonna put feelers and I'm gonna just keep testing and testing and testing and testing and testing until you're like, and then I'll have the thing. But next thing you know, you're a year into this testing, and you realize, wait a minute, I have a full-blown business and I didn't even try. I just kept throwing stuff out. And that I think when you're used to getting paid, an entrepreneur, the scariest things is when you cut that off and you're like, wait, I have to bring it in. And not only do I have to bring it in today, I gotta bring it in tomorrow, and in a month, and in a year, it makes it a lot easier to throw things out that aren't perfect and then just tweak and tweak and tweak and tweak. Because you're like, okay, I gotta bring something in. Yeah, and it's the ones that settle, that say that's good enough. That's where the that's when the struggle happens.

SPEAKER_03 32:55

Yeah. That's really good. Well, we should got paid by a venture capitalist. Right.

Community Grief And Closing Thoughts

SPEAKER_03 33:03

Um, so before we before we wrap things up, I think it it's important to to touch on um for those of you that listen, if you're still here, I don't even know how how far we are into this.

SPEAKER_01 33:14

We're 32 in.

SPEAKER_03 33:15

32 minutes in. Um it's like nothing. If you're still here, thank you. Um, but it's been uh for those of you that are local in our community, it's been an extremely heavy, devastating week um with the with a tragedy that that took place here. Um so just wanted to make sure that we we mention that we're we're praying for all those involved, the families, that there's that there's healing. And um it's been amazing with as horrible as the situation is, it's been amazing to see a community rally around the families and really do their part to, you know, it seems very small in being able to do it, but it I know it's gonna go a long way with the families. And um it's a it's been really interesting to see just um it's a small community, right? So so to see how everyone is so connected and knows, you know, different people to see you know everyone come together and rally has been a cool thing to see. I obviously again around a horrible, horrible situation. So but thoughts and prayers are with all those involved, and um we hope that there'll be brighter days that come ahead.

SPEAKER_00 34:31

Yeah, yeah. Thanks for saying that. That was good. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 34:36

So all right. Thanks everybody.

SPEAKER_00 34:39

Yeah, if you want to share with us what your uh habits are you wish you could add in or you can take away, like I think probably as we get going, we'll be talking through that because I know you now know about me. I waste too much time on things that do not create value. And that's my goal. So hope if I do help you in any way and create some value, let me know. Hopefully, this creates value. Yeah. And we're only just trying to get better. So that's all I got to say about that.

SPEAKER_03 35:14

All right. See y'all next time.

SPEAKER_00 35:15

Thank you.