Episode 26: "Plot Twist: We’re Not Okay (But We’re Pregnant)!"

We had a whole episode planned… and then life said absolutely not. 

In this raw, emotional, and unexpectedly funny episode, Ava drops a surprise that completely shifts the conversation—she’s pregnant! What follows is an unfiltered, real-time reaction between best friends and “work wives” navigating shock, excitement, and the immediate “what now?” moments that come with life-changing news. 

From struggling to get pregnant to processing the reality of it finally happening, Ava opens up about her journey, while Katie reacts in real time—balancing friendship and support.

But this episode isn’t just about pregnancy—it’s about what happens when life doesn’t follow your plan. We dive into identity shifts, ambition vs. motherhood, redefining priorities, and the pressure women feel to have it all figured out instantly. 

Because before we even process the moment… we’re already thinking about logistics. 

✨ Plus:
 – Real talk on navigating big life pivots
 – The “work wife” dynamic (and whether the baby gets a mic 👀)
 – Reality TV recap featuring Taylor Frankie Paul and the “secret lives” drama
 – Life updates, vet visits & more chaos 

This is just the beginning—more conversations to come!

🎧 Timestamps:
00:00 – 39:00 | Surprise Pregnancy Announcement + Ava’s Journey
39:00 – 1:23:00 | Main Topic: When Life Doesn’t Go As Planned
1:23:00 – 1:47:00 | Reality Recap: Mormon Wives Drama
1:47:00 – End | Life Updates, Vet Visits & Closing 

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

Welcome to the Work Wives and Real Lives Podcast. I'm Katie. And I'm Ava. We're two best friends and coworkers spilling the tea on business, boundaries, and all the beautiful chaos in between. From workday wins to real life messes, we're talking through it all. Unfiltered, unpolished, and always putting friendship first. Think of it as your weekly catch up with your favorite coworker, Turn Soul Sister. So grab your coffee or your wine. And let's get into it.

SPEAKER_00 0:28

Stunning.

SPEAKER_01 0:29

Stunning. What is up, Workwife fam? It's Ava Akatie coming at you with a special episode because we have exciting news.

SPEAKER_00 0:41

Real exciting. Real exciting. We had a whole episode planned. And then we are pulling a Ross Deller and we're pivoting. Pivot. Hopefully, much better than he did with that couch. Yep. Um, so Eva, what are we talking about today?

SPEAKER_01 0:58

Well, we are talking about why I've been such a dud and a like little piece of blah the last few months, and it's because I'm pregnant. Oh yay! Hey! Look at that! Cats out of the bag.

SPEAKER_00 1:14

Cats out of the bag. I am uh so thrilled we can finally talk about this because there are so many moments I almost said Good for you. You did a great job. And I'm not gonna talk about the gender because Ava hasn't shared it yet. Yes, but I had decided before I even knew and before she even knew that the baby would be called Jobodo in honor of Jobodo. Jobodo. Um because Joe can be a girl name or a boy name, like Joseph or Jolene. You know, it's flexible. It's universal. So Joe Bodo is the baby's name in my brain. Um, I've been told it's not actually going to be the baby's name, but I am so thrilled I can finally now talk about Jobodo.

SPEAKER_01 1:55

We can now talk about it. Yes, I am with child at this point. Exactly. Yeah, I got knocked up. Sorry, mom. It was so funny. We'll talk about the full like chronological order of things. But when I was telling my mom, I did like have almost a moment of like, I'm so sorry. Like I'm a teenager. Oh my God. Telling her I'm pregnant. She's like, oh my god, Ava, you're like, it is kind of weird.

SPEAKER_00 2:27

You're while in your 30s. You know what? I when I was pregnant, not to make it about myself always, but um, when I was pregnant with one of my children, I don't remember what it what it doesn't matter. One of them. I was in the office one day, and this guy, he's so nice, and he's such a sweet little soul, but he just says the most awkward thing sometimes. This is not my last company. And um, I had just recently announced my office I was pregnant, and he's like, Isn't it weird when you hear people are pregnant, then you just like know they're having sex? And I'm like, what are you bringing it up to? It's supposed to Immaculate conception, okay? I'm carrying the Lord's child. Yeah. We didn't talk about that in the office, or babies just happen when you're an adult, okay? If you want them, sometimes sometimes you don't, and they still happen. It's life. I don't know how it works. Don't ask me. Um, but I am so excited for you. I'm excited to be an auntie again. Whatever name you do pick has to go well with a tattoo because all of well, so far just my nieces are tatted on my arms. It was funny on your body. Yeah. So I've got a harp, harps on this arm for Harper. And I've got a bow on this arm for Bowie, like a bow and arrow. I did have a moment over the weekend though, where um all he's we go by Ollie, but Oliver asked why he didn't have a tattoo. And I said, Well, I'll just have to get a martini glass with olives in it for Ollie. Ooh, yes, I love that one. So we'll have to do another one because he was very sad. That's how the first one happened with Harper. She's like, I have them for my kids, and she's like, Where's my tattoo?

SPEAKER_01 4:07

And I was like, I'm your child.

SPEAKER_00 4:09

Great question. Great question. Yes. Um, but yay! So this is why Ava's been, you know, having slow weekends.

SPEAKER_01 4:19

Very slow weekends, because I was, if not on the couch, I was in the bed. You were on. I was extremely unwell.

SPEAKER_00 4:31

Um This is the real reason she missed the trip to Scottsdale.

SPEAKER_01 4:34

Yeah, this is why I missed the trip to Scottsdale. There's no way I could have gotten on a plane that morning and had been just like a human being.

SPEAKER_00 4:46

Yeah. You were like unwell.

SPEAKER_01 4:49

I was very unwell. You tried. Mentally, emotionally, physically. Yes, I tried.

SPEAKER_00 4:55

Um well, let's go back to the night of conception and talk. No, I'm kidding. Um, Katie knows the exact date. I tried GPT'd her um her due date. She did. To go back. Hello, my friend. Oh, is that a bait? What is this? It's like a boat car. It's a boat car. You know what? It kind of looks like a baby bassinet with Ava's baby in it because we're talking about babies right now. It look kind of like a baby bassinet.

SPEAKER_01 5:22

Oh, yeah. That does look like a little baby. Which my baby in there?

SPEAKER_00 5:26

That's right there. You know, sitting upright. It's sitting upright. Yep. Thank you. What were we talking about? Oh, yes, you're a due date. So I bat I put in the due date and I said, if this is the due date, what night did conception happen? Because curious minds want to know. And so I texted Abe, I was like, you this date. And I was like, you must have been busy that night. Booked and busy. It attracted. And then worked. And you know, you're like, oh, yep, that makes sense that this happened that day, and yep.

SPEAKER_01 5:57

The stars aligned, and then the baby was created. Fully aligned, and what a blessing. Um, so I guess I'll go in order of just take us from the top. So from the very top. Well, we started trying in November 2024. So it was a long year, and only a few people knew. I don't even think my I don't think I told my family until September maybe of 2025. That you were trying. Yeah, that we had been trying for just about almost a year. And um because was it yeah, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Cause going into 2025, my husband and I were like, okay, this is our year, we're ready. And it was not our year, which is absolutely okay because now it's like a blessing. Yeah. But if you've struggled with uh infertility or just pregnancy in general, the first few months you're kind of in denial. And then after it hits a certain month, you uh personally, I just kind of lost it. And so I feel like last year I was grateful because I was busy almost every single month with travel, with things happening um in our lives. And so I was like, oh, it's okay because next month I'll be here. Oh, it's okay because next month we have this going on. Oh, it's totally fine because next month I have this event. And then it became to a point where the last event that we really had was your vow renewal. And I don't know if you noticed this or knew at all, but when we got and drove up to your parents' house when we got to Paso, I had just had a very bad meltdown. No, I didn't even notice. That's good because I was like sticking my head out the window, trying to like air out my face because I didn't want anyone to know. Like I just spent the last hour just bawling my eyes out in the car. And um that was September 2025. So I think it was just my husband and I had a long drive up to Paso. And so we're talking about things and setting stuff into place, and things were just becoming a little bit more real, we gotta get it figured out. We need to start looking at doctors, seeing infertility specialists, like what's going on here. And then um, it just got hard with our schedules. So we had had dinner with a couple that we met out here in early December, and they shared some of their struggles and shared their doctors with us. And so we had set into plan, like, okay, starting January 1st, 2026, we are putting into place our doctor's appointments to start like our infertility going into the year. And then sure enough, right, like three days before the new year, I found out I was pregnant. It was a shock.

SPEAKER_02 9:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:26

Because I that day, I just felt like out of sorts, just forgetful of things. I I teach all the time, and I was teaching a class I've been teaching for almost 11 years. I forgot everything. It was probably the worst class I've ever taught. I could not hear the music. I could not remember a setup that I can do in my sleep. I forgot the order of things. I almost forgot like a whole section of class. I was like, what is wrong with me? Am I getting ill? Like, I'm what is up? And I was just like meandering through the market. And I was like, you know what, I'll just take a test. If it's negative, it's negative. Like, we're gonna start like seeing specialists next month. That test lit up positive before I was even done peeing. I was like, oh we're we're positive. It was so like anticlimactic telling my husband too, because he was in the other room taking a nap, as he always does. He's a big napper, that one. Yeah. And um, I was like, holy shit. He's like, Did you fall in? I was like, um, I just took a pregnancy test and he got up so quick. He's like, Are you serious?

SPEAKER_02 10:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:58

I was like, Yeah. He's like, Do you have another one? Like, take another one. And sure enough, that one turned positive really fast. I had another test too. I took like three or four, and they all like right away said positive. And I was like, wow, whoa, okay, here we go. And I had planned plans to be in California the first week of January, first and second week of January. And um, Katie at the time was in Florida, and we were all, we're her and I were just FaceTiming as we always do.

SPEAKER_00 11:39

And do you want to tell the story of how you found out? Yeah, so we um this just goes back to my doomed Florida trip over the break, which I know you were all well familiar with. And it was just like one thing after another, and then I was FaceTiming her. I was like, and I started my period today, like of course. And I was like, Oh, you probably started yours too, because Amy is the ringleader of the pre-period gang. And she sure is. She got us all on her cycle. Yep. And so me, Ava, Kelsey, Amy, I assume Jamie at this point, are all in the same, like we literally all start within like a day of each other. And so something about Amy's pheromones, I can't. Um They're strong. They're strong. Um, so I was like, Oh, you probably started your period two today, right? And her face got like all like instantly I knew she was pregnant. She she just like kind of clammed up and like froze. And I was like, Oh my god, you're fucking pregnant. And she's like, mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 12:34

And I was like, Yeah, I do not have a good poker face. No. And I was not prepared for that conversation to be brought up.

SPEAKER_00 12:45

How long was that? Like, how was that within a week of you taking your trust? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Nice. Well, I'm honored that I was the second person to know. And really, your husband doesn't count because I'm your real wife, so it's fine.

SPEAKER_01 12:59

Truly.

SPEAKER_00 13:01

You know?

SPEAKER_01 13:02

Yeah. I'm so excited. We're so excited. I'm nervous. I'm scared, I'm excited. All the feels. And I would, yeah, I started feeling probably all the first trimester feels while I was in California. And I'm very grateful that I was not filming any X Plus videos during that trip. Otherwise, I would have probably passed away. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:34

We just did a lot of, and I'm glad I knew because I was like, I feel like we had a very lovely time of vegging and not doing anything.

SPEAKER_01 13:45

Sitting around. It was great at nighttime. We had early bed times. We had early bed times.

SPEAKER_00 13:52

There was no pressure to do or go anywhere. Or yeah, I don't think we went or did anything, really. I need to footnote this episode. I'm I've been sick all week, so I'm probably gonna be sniffling a lot. It's coming down.

SPEAKER_01 14:08

Oh, it's fine. Oh gosh. Should I go blow my nose? Uh yeah, you need to go blow that.

SPEAKER_00 14:17

For the masses, we actually weren't gonna film this week because I've been sick all week. I'm like better now. I just like have you know nasal. You look good, fluids. I'm gonna work today. Um you look healthy. I feel fine. It's just my nose. And so we weren't gonna film. And then what we we wanted to announce the pregnancy. Me. I I was I was a pusher. Um, I've been waiting. If you haven't checked out her reel, you need to.

SPEAKER_01 14:48

It's yes, go to Ava underscore flava and it's great.

SPEAKER_00 14:55

It's great. We also re-posted it on our Instagram account. But there was that, and then there was the the reality TV news that's just been a bombshell this week. I was like, we have to film. We're gonna make it happen. Yeah, there's too much to talk about.

SPEAKER_01 15:06

Too much going on in the world. Um, but yeah, that California trip, the first weeks of January, I was fighting for my life. I was feeling extremely nauseous um throughout the day. And I don't think I taught as much. There is one day I taught the 5:30 and 6 30 a.m. And it was oh, in 7 30, I think. It was empower, align, empower. Or empower, align, align. Empower, align, align. It was a Friday, yeah, probably. Yes. And then the next day we had an open house and I taught three classes back to back. I did end up telling the sales associate that worked that morning because as I was driving there, I was on the phone with my husband, and I just started crying because I was like, I'm going to throw up. I can't teach right now. Like, we have full classes. People are expecting like me and not to be conceited, but I'm I do well at I do well at what I do as far as teaching. And when I'm in town, people have an expectation of what they're going to get from an Ava class, is what they would say.

SPEAKER_00 16:23

If you haven't taken one, you're missing out. They're fantastic.

SPEAKER_01 16:26

And so it's a lot of pressure. It's a lot of pressure. Add in like a bunch of first-time people coming in and out. And it was just a busy day. And so when I got to the studio, I probably was just like a tornado. Yeah. And she the four sales associate was like, oh my God. And so I just told her straight up, I was like, hey, please do not share this with anyone else right now. But I am pregnant. I am going to throw up any second. And I don't know how I'm going to teach these three classes right now, but I'm here. And if they're like four memberships that day. You crushed it. Oh girl. I was like, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop. And so she was really sweet. She's like, I'll put the trash can right here. So if you need to step out, like you just run into the dressing room so no one can see you. Take off the mic and throw up. I was like, thank you. Yeah. She was really sweet about it. It was um Jenny. Oh, she's so sweet. I mean, they're all sweet. But yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I know any one of them would have done it. I think I told Julie as well because she was also working one of the days I was teaching. And I again was not feeling well. And I said, I am going to vomit everywhere any second. But I cannot have anyone know right now. Like it's way too early. Like it's taken us forever to get pregnant. I'm not ready for that.

SPEAKER_00 17:55

Oh, Julie was probably so excited.

SPEAKER_01 17:57

Oh, she was, oh, she started crying. It was so sweet.

SPEAKER_00 18:00

Oh, I love Julie so much.

SPEAKER_01 18:02

She was so sweet about it. Um, she was so thrilled. She was like absolute gem. Yeah, that was very hard because at the same time, we lost how many instructors? I feel like that. Oh, that month, that week.

SPEAKER_00 18:20

Yeah, I think within like a two-week span, three instructors gave notice. Like for other job moving out of the area. Like two of them were moving out of the area, and then one was a job change and like her schedule, whatever. Yes. But it was a big there was a lot happening that week.

SPEAKER_01 18:35

A lot happening that week. People were calling out sick. I'm yeah, I will share this. I'm not gonna say the name, but I showed up to one of the studios and one of the instructors saw me and she's like, Oh, thank God. She's like, I'm not feeling good. Can you please teach for me my next two classes? I'm like, if only you knew right now how much I'm like swallowing back. I'm like, okay, fine. I'm only here because the ceiling is falling through at one of the studios. There's mold everywhere. Like, I should not be cleaning this up right now. Like, there's a huge flood in the dressing room. I'm cleaning it up. I was soaked. I had to like go home, shower, change my clothes. Yeah. But you know what? It kept me moving. And then I went home after that trip and I was unwell for a few months, a month and a half.

SPEAKER_00 19:34

That was the contributing factor to our hiatus as well. Yes. Yeah. There was also scheduling issues. We just scheduled all over the place. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:44

There's no way I could like sit here and talk and not look like ill. Yeah. But I, you know, I still showed up for everything else as far as my job. Probably didn't do my best work. I know I didn't do my best work, but I can't think of anything you did wrong. Oh, that's good. I can think of a million things I did wrong.

SPEAKER_00 20:11

My brain doesn't go back that far anymore.

SPEAKER_01 20:13

So I just felt so guilty every single day napping. I am not one to nap, but I could not physically get through the day without taking a nap. My husband loved it because he comes home from work and he goes straight to the bed and naps. I'm like, wow, what a dream. What a lifestyle to have. That's quickly going to not be the case.

SPEAKER_00 20:35

So and if he tries that, there will likely be violence involved. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:41

Which we'll talk about. That will be a true segue later on. But yeah, I was napping. I was working from my laptop in my bed from the couch. Like there was no way I could sit at my desk and like get work done. I had to be like on a cushion, ready to like hit a pillow. Um but I made it through to my second trimester. How are we feeling today? Feeling so much better physically. Yeah. Um, physically, I'm back to working out. The most recent trip that I did to California, I probably felt my best. However, leading up to it, I did get the flu the week I did start feeling good again. And I was like, okay, I have a week to get myself prepped and ready to film a bunch of classes and to be like a human being again.

SPEAKER_00 21:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:41

And then the flu hit me and that quickly knocked me down. And then I had a day of like feeling normal.

SPEAKER_00 21:47

Which was also your husband's fault.

SPEAKER_01 21:48

Let's also my husband's fault.

SPEAKER_00 21:50

Can we talk about your first ultrasound?

SPEAKER_01 21:52

Yes, let's talk about my first ultrasound because I didn't have my first ultrasound until like 10 and a half to 11 weeks. Because there was a crazy snowstorm in Tennessee, ice on the road, so everything shut down. And I was kind of sad because my husband already had planned um, he had a work trip, and so he wasn't gonna be able to make it because my appointment kept getting pushed back. And I was super sad that I was gonna have to go solo to like my first ultrasound, which I know a lot of women do, and it's it happens, but it's also like disappointing.

SPEAKER_00 22:32

Yeah. A lot of feelings about that.

SPEAKER_01 22:35

Yeah. But you know, the good Lord came through and gave my husband the flu. But I was so rude about it because I thought for sure he had the man flu because the man is constantly coughing, he's constantly clearing his throat, he's constantly sniffling, he's always sneezing. And so I was like, oh, he just has allergies, like, get over it, you're fine. Yeah. And then the morning of the appointment, he woke up like extremely unwell. Like I could see it in his eyes. I was like, ugh. And during the appointment, he was just like, yeah, he did not look okay. And so I was super elated and just like excited. We saw the baby, we gotta hear the heartbeat, and those are just special moments. And he started crying, which the man does not cry. He had like maybe a tear or two. I was lucky to see like a little water in his eyes when I walked down the aisle. But this man, he's a strong cookie. So yeah, hearing that and seeing that it was special. And then after the appointment, right across the hallway is urgent care. And he's like, I'm so sorry, but we need to go in there. Like, I cannot survive another minute. I was like, okay, whatever. And so as I'm like texting with my friends and my family, the pictures of the ultrasound, they're also like calling me. They're like, What are you guys doing now? Like, oh, well, we're at urgent care. Yeah. Because is apparently unwell more than I am. Again. Again. Always ruining the moment. Always ruining the moment. And so we get into the doctor's office. And the man's blood pressure is like skyrocketed, like out of this, out of the roof.

SPEAKER_00 24:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:35

No, it was hilarious. I was taking photos of him like looking like he was dead on the He was like.

unknown 24:41

Yeah. He was.

SPEAKER_01 24:44

But you know, karma is a true bitch. And like two days later, I was down with the flu.

SPEAKER_00 24:53

Had you stopped guzzling garlic by that point? My friends, how have we not talked about the garlic?

SPEAKER_01 24:59

I know. And just came to me with the sickness talk. So I had stopped doing the garlic when I found out I was pregnant because there was no way I could like throw one back, you know? And I'm convinced the reason I got pregnant finally was because of garlic.

SPEAKER_02 25:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:18

The second I started swallowing garlic cloves, fertile myrtle over here. Fertile myrtle.

SPEAKER_00 25:25

Yep. Give it a try. You can't, you know, if anything, you're boosting your immune system. Yeah. Yeah, nothing to lose. Yeah, nothing to lose.

SPEAKER_01 25:34

Give it a go. Swallow some garlic cloves. Maybe I'm onto something here. Shout out to garlic. Like. Yeah. But I think. Did I? Yeah, no, I did try to swallow garlic clove and it came right back up. And I was like, oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_00 25:54

It came like down and then up. Yeah. It it quickly holes in like your trachea or something, like or whatever tube.

unknown 26:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:04

And so I just like cut it up even smaller and was just doing it.

SPEAKER_00 26:06

Oh, you cut it this time.

SPEAKER_01 26:08

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:09

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 26:09

Yeah. No, I cut it in half and then quickly realized the half does not work at this moment. So then we just cut it up even further and swallow it. And you know, the hardest thing is being severely ill with an illness and pregnant at the same time.

SPEAKER_00 26:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:30

Like there's stuff you can take that are okay, but at the same time, they tell you tylenol is okay to take. But you know everything on the internet right now about Tylenol. Yeah, but like the last thing I want to do is I took Tylenol. My kids are perfect. Yeah, they are perfect human beings. So yeah, I did take a Tylenol one day because it I was just like miserable. It's like I need something. I can't just like be the garlic is just not cutting it on its own. And so um, yeah, that healed me pretty quickly. And then here I am, 16 weeks, second trimester, feeling physically good. I was out and about. We went to I went to California and then I went to Utah. I felt like a human being again. Minus watching all my friends drink magnum bottles of wine all weekend long. You know what's funny? That it none of that bothered me until the lemon cello came out. Oh I was like, this is cruel, this is cruel behavior from all of you.

SPEAKER_00 27:48

We were so drunk by that point. No one's considering your feelings.

SPEAKER_01 27:52

No, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_00 27:53

None of us knew what our feelings were.

SPEAKER_01 27:54

We were just nor did I think that would affect me.

SPEAKER_00 27:58

The lemon cello shots. There's uh yeah, you know. I didn't know you were such a connoisseur.

SPEAKER_01 28:05

Uh who doesn't love it?

SPEAKER_00 28:08

I don't know. I just I would be sad about the wine. When I was pregnant with Wyatt, it was the first time we ever went to Paso. And I had to be everyone's like my parents were up there looking for a house. Or maybe they had no, they had just bought the house, and so it was our first time visiting them. And I had to be like the deity driving everyone to all the wine tastings, and I'm like, this is fucking terrible. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:33

I I have fun no matter what, drinking or not. Like I'll I'll make a good time. I knew for a fact though, when it was leading up to Scottsdale, I was not Ava at all. I was not who I felt like would be fun, or I just knew if I were to have gone, it would have been just like a bad time for me. And I didn't want to like put that on you or Kelsey. And yeah, I felt very guilty. But you wouldn't have had the the Ava Flava, you know, in love. But you know, that's the beauty about friendships, is they're there through the good, the bad, yeah. But I just didn't want you to see me in my that time. I didn't want anyone to see me.

SPEAKER_00 29:32

Kelsey threw up in a trash can, so she did.

SPEAKER_01 29:36

Yeah. And then hearing about the weekend they did have, I was like, oh, I could have been.

SPEAKER_00 29:40

We just we were in bed by eight o'clock watching Gossip Girl every night. Exactly. No, but I get it. That's like a lot of pressure.

SPEAKER_01 29:46

So yeah. Um yay. So feeling good. I'm working out again. Um mentally, emotionally, it's been a roller coaster because I'm feeling better, I'm working out, but I why did I choose this profession of people constantly looking at me, constantly being in front of people and uh during a time too where your body is like going through so many changes physically that you have no control over. And I'm someone that has had some issues with body image, some eating disorders very far back. And um yeah, in this period of time right now, being pregnant, it's very hard for me. I'm grateful and feel so lucky that we have a baby and there's something beautiful growing in me, and it's a true blessing, but there's so much emotionally that you really don't you're not prepared for.

SPEAKER_00 31:04

Yeah, this is why I was trying to like gently encourage you to announce sooner rather than later. And I know a lot of people think or like the standard is wait till you're 12 weeks, or because that's when most miscarriages happen within. And I had a miscarriage at six weeks, my first time ever being pregnant. And the only people I that knew were like my immediate family and Garrett, and then like I was I had to call out of work and stuff, so like Garrett had to tell my boss and stuff like that. I mean, I guess he didn't have to, but like he did, and I was close with her, so it was fine. Um, but I really think like if something is gonna happen, it's actually like and everyone's different, and you should absolutely do whatever serves like you and your own mental health. But for me, it's was nice knowing that like I had a support system around me that could support me if something did happen. And then if, you know, thankfully nothing bad does happen, that in-between stage where it's like, did I eat a burrito and I'm just fat or am I pregnant, especially when you're you know in front of people all the time and they're used to you looking a certain way, and you can't wear like baggy clothes because you're a fitness instructor. Um, I mean, I guess you can, but we just technically don't. And that's where it's like, if you just tell people, then they'll know and they'll they'll stop staring as much in a like is she or isn't she way? Like they'll just know and be supportive. And so yeah. But that's that's a hard decision that everyone has to make on their own time at the end of the day. Absolutely that works for them.

SPEAKER_01 32:34

Yeah. And I'm I did tell clients in Tennessee because it got to a point where specifically teaching a specific format, there's no way I could demo majority of the class anymore.

SPEAKER_00 32:54

And to be fair, I don't demo anything in a line after the strength Sierra, he's at the bar.

SPEAKER_01 33:00

Yes. Well, that one it was easier to hide that I was pregnant, yeah, um, teaching a line. It didn't feel good. Um, but it was define and there's a lot of like uh hand release push-ups. There were um, there's a whole core series. Yeah, yeah. This is what it was is a specific um class plan where the whole beginning part of the core section started off with like we would have to set up flat on our stomachs and we'd be there for like a few changes. And I was like, oh, well, I'm guess I'm telling people today. And they were yeah, they were very sweet, they were very excited for me. Um but when I go and take class, you know, people are always looking at the instructors that are taking classes, which is fine. I don't like it because I don't want people constantly watching me and looking at me while I'm working out. Weird since I do that for a living. I there's something about it where you just want to go in, work out, feel like a normal human being that's enjoying their workout without like looking across the room and all eyes are on you.

SPEAKER_00 34:22

This is why I rarely take peer bar classes anymore. And I love it because it's changed my life. It's one of my favorite workouts. It is my favorite workout. But now that I'm a teacher, what and even sometimes when I go to visiting studios, they're so lovely, but they're like, oh, and so-and-so's a teacher or visiting teacher, like, look at her. If you don't know what you're doing, or something like, please don't look at me. Like, I just came to work out, and like, especially at my own studio, people know who I am, and then for the most part, and then all the instructors will be like, Oh, so and so's in class. Let's like, that's what now I feel like I can't modify. I have to like do something perfect. I can't take breaks. Like, it's just a lot of pressure where I'm just like, just let me sit in my corner.

SPEAKER_01 35:01

Yeah, yeah. And like there's some stuff I'm starting to have to modify, and they're like looking at me and they're like doing the modification. I'm like, no, I remember I'm pregnant. I'm pregnant, people. I'm pregnant.

SPEAKER_00 35:14

Listen to what I do or say, not what I do.

SPEAKER_01 35:16

Yeah, I have to remind them too in the middle of class, like, hey, remember I'm pregnant and I can't do this. I can't demo it. So please do it full out. So it's yeah, it's been interesting. Um yeah, what's hard is not being not comparing myself to other pregnant gals of like people sharing that they're kind of on the same timeline as me and they look like they're showing more. And then I'm like, am I not gaining enough weight? Or like um, am I not like doing the right things? There's yeah, the mental my friend said it perfect today because she's also pregnant right now, too. Is oh, your friend that's out there? The one? Like the couple friends? No, not Kayla, but another one. She used to live in Tennessee, but they moved to Ohio. Kylie, shout out Kylie, she watches the pod. Um she's also pregnant too. She's seven weeks ahead of me, ten weeks ahead of me, I think. Oh, that's cute. Uh but she said it perfectly today to me because we like voice chat back and forth throughout the day of like how we're feeling, what we're experiencing.

SPEAKER_00 36:42

That's really cute. You have like a pregnancy partner.

SPEAKER_01 36:44

Yes. Oh, I'm so blessed that her and I, she also had some struggles too, leading up to being having her baby right now. So, or being pregnant right now. So we're able to share like these emotions of every day of like living in fear. Like, is this too good to be true? Or like, what's happening in there? Is everything okay? Like, am I going to wake up one morning and have like the worst possible outcome? You know? So it's nice to chat back and forth. But she was like, Yeah, it's like mental gymnastics every single day. I was like, Yep, um, that's a perfect way to explain it. Yeah. But um, yeah, if you are a client of ours and you see me in California, please do not comment on my body or anything because that's where I've been having a hard time and struggling. Like I know there's a beautiful thing happening, but it it's very hard for me to be going through this physically. I don't know if that sounds vain or whatever. I know someone out there. Yeah, someone else out there is feeling that way too. What did make me laugh though is um some members out here, it was very sweet. They're like, you're gonna bounce back so fast. Like I was in my early 20s when I had my first, like 23, 28 when I had my second. So you're gonna be totally fine. I was like, that's cute that you think I'm of those ages. I'm like, oh no, honey, we're not in our 20s. So I'm like, what? I'm like, that's very sweet that you thought I was. I'm gonna hold on to that. But no, I will be.

SPEAKER_00 38:37

Because that's like the age of all the other teachers there, isn't it?

SPEAKER_01 38:40

Yeah, a lot of the gals on the schedule are um in their 20s, which is so funny because I feel I am now the elder when I used to be like the baby of the group. But now I'm the eldest, one of the eldest of the bunch, I think. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 38:59

It's full circle.

SPEAKER_01 39:00

Full circle moment. That is my journey thus far. Well, congratulations.

SPEAKER_00 39:07

Thank you. And this whole thing to talk about it. Yeah, no, I'm glad we can finally talk about it. This whole episode is gonna be about you and babies and pregnancy. We, as I mentioned at the start of the episode, we had a whole different segment planned on um, which we're going to get to next week on meetings, micromanagers, and mental health. We have punted her away to next week because we're gonna talk about today plot twist. It's the name of the episode. You'll see it on Spotify or YouTube. We're not okay, but we're pregnant. So um we're talking about shifting priorities and what happens when life doesn't go to plan, which Ava's already talked a lot about, but going into um kind of work and tying in being pregnant, um, you know, pressure that women feel. I'm sorry, was it okay to transition? Yeah, that's all I had. Okay. That's all she wrote. Yay, we're excited for you. Yay. Um, but we're staying on the theme of like pregnancy and motherhood and working now that we're pregnant, yeah, leaving Ava. I'm just part of the Wii. Um, we are not pregnant over here because we got, oh my gosh, I have to tell the viewers. So I go in for my annual, like I know it was chuck up last week. And I knew it was an annual. I didn't really know what I was showing up for. I just thought it was there for a pap smear and a good time. And immediately I get taken back by who I know is the ultrasound tech, because she was the ultrasound tech when I was pregnant with my kids. And I'm just confused, but I just go with it and just follow her back. And then she's like, Okay, so you're gonna undress from the bottoms down and we'll do your ultrasound. And I was like, Oh, you you you have to have person, you know I'm not pregnant, right? And I was literally terrified that I was pregnant and I just didn't know and she knew somehow. I don't know. I'm like, hello. Um, and so she's like, oh no, no, we like to do a you know, semi-regular ultrasound, just to say how things are going down there. And I was like, oh, great. And then so she like puts, you know, the probe on. And I haven't had ultrasound since after I gave birth to my son five years ago. And she's like, Okay, look, your uterus looks great. I was like, oh no, baby there. Great, Chuck, check, we're not pregnant. Raise. And she's like, Oh, there's your IUD, it's still in place. And I'm like, Great, awesome. Two for two. So apparently you still get ultrasounds when you're not pregnant. I just didn't know that. Or recovering from pregnancy. Anyway, uh yeah, so we're gonna talk about what does this mean for work, which we're not gonna get super deep into because her and I haven't talked spoken about like literally what this means for work, but we're gonna talk a little bit about it.

SPEAKER_01 42:05

No, and I haven't even spoken to my husband about it. I feel like I've been just like, I don't know, just living day by day, and now things are like actually real. Yes, yeah. Um, the doctor showed me some classes for us, so I'm excited.

SPEAKER_00 42:32

I didn't take one with Everett, because at that point you have one you know what you should do. Oh yeah, you know you know the you know the game. Wyatt's I when I was there, we went and there I just felt so bad. There was like this 16-year-old girl on the class, and like she always brought like one of her friends from high school with her. Like, she never had a partner, like her parents never came, and like I just felt so bad for her. Yeah. I hope she's doing good things in life. Um talk about navigating ambition and motherhood, um, and just like the logistics. We're just gonna go into all of that. So talk to me, noose. Well, are you quitting? No, I'm kidding.

SPEAKER_01 43:16

No, I'm telling me, I cannot not work. I I need more than two weeks' notice if you're gonna leave me, though. No, I'm not leaving you.

SPEAKER_00 43:27

I was afraid I will probably have to beg you in the hospital to stop responding to I will be responding to emails as I'm like having contractions.

SPEAKER_01 43:37

Like, this is how your email found me.

SPEAKER_00 43:39

This is how your email found me.

SPEAKER_01 43:40

Contracting. Contracting. Um, no, I will not be leaving. It'll just look a little different, and we'll talk about that too, and yeah, put things in place because um my husband travels, and so it'll just be planning ahead of time. More things. So just putting things into place.

SPEAKER_00 44:04

Yeah. Like we've talked about in other episodes, like scheduling, prioritizing, planning. Um, you know, we have like our kind of now second in command with Ava at the studio. She has a big trip planned, like right around the same time Ava's gonna be out on maternity to leave. So it's like you can never, when we talk about like timing, like you know, this is like a friend's episode. There's never gonna be like the right time to have a baby. There's always gonna be something, even when like you were having, you know, talking about last year was like there was this trip and then there was a bower and one, like there's always gonna be something that comes up, and like you absolutely have to do like what's best for you at the end of the day and your family.

SPEAKER_01 44:42

Yeah. And you know, I already freaked out when I saw that time request come through. I also tied in with your time requests and your time off around the same time. I was like, oh yeah, I'll be on a Disney cruise when you're giving birth. When I'm giving birth. I'm like, great. It's gonna be great. It's gonna be great. Um, so you know, we'll have an email automatic response to people of we'll get back to you in 30 business days. We'll get back to you in 30 business days. Sorry. You can't cancel your membership this month. You can't freeze it. Our credits will not be extended.

SPEAKER_00 45:27

Shout out to Sydney if you're listening. I know you used to listen, but I think you got behind. So you better listen to this episode and text her right now. Um she got a shout-out on our franchise partner call for responding to the training emails so fast. So I think we should put her in charge of the studio. I know she hates that. She probably would recognize for that. For responding to emails so fast. So, you know what, Sydney, you you you're hired. When me, Eva, and Julie are all out. You will be running an email account.

SPEAKER_01 45:55

She would love to probably step away from that email account and go into ours. So she would have fun with it. She would have so much fun.

SPEAKER_00 46:02

I think so. So, Sydney, you're hired. I'm just gonna text her because she was texting me right now about something else.

SPEAKER_01 46:07

Or we put Jasmine on it, her wife. That would be great. Oh, yeah. I would love to hear Jazz's response to emails. I just feel like she would have the same energy as you. Yeah. With emails. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 46:25

I need to deliver them a mattress, by the way.

SPEAKER_00 46:29

They or they we get rid of their our old mattress, and well, it's not old, it's it's a nice mattress.

SPEAKER_01 46:35

But yeah, it's a really nice.

SPEAKER_00 46:36

It's been sitting on my pool table for two weeks because we need to bring it to their house, and Garrett is the only one capable of doing such. And it's so heavy. It's so heavy. Oh, yeah, I need to help move it when you were pregnant.

SPEAKER_01 46:49

Where was Garrett? He was somewhere.

SPEAKER_02 46:52

And yeah. Who the fuck knows?

SPEAKER_01 46:55

But yeah, planning, scheduling, uh, putting things into place. Are you telling Sid that she's in a yeah?

SPEAKER_02 47:06

Sydney, you're hired both out in September. Me on a cruise or Ava having a baby. A bay. You're just having a bae. Ava having a bae. Hey, it works.

SPEAKER_00 47:27

Um so yeah, timing. You can't plan it. But what you can plan is when you know something's coming up, whether it's work, personal life, whatever. She does not accept. Too bad. Too bad, said you got a shout out on the franchise partner call for your email response skills. So sorry, you're too good at your job.

SPEAKER_02 47:57

She wish she wasn't. We're also recording as I'm voice chatting you. How does your voice chat thing do so well?

SPEAKER_00 48:16

Yeah. So if it's if I'm doing it where I'm holding the phone and it's right next to my face, it usually gets me pretty good. The ones that get super fucked are when I'm in my car and I'm like on the car Bluetooth, those ones never come through.

SPEAKER_01 48:28

I think that's my problem, is because anytime I'm doing voice to text, it's because I'm in the car.

SPEAKER_00 48:35

Yeah, I do it all the time because I don't want to use my thumbs. Because I'm convinced like a couple years ago I got like purple tunnel on my thumb. Like it hurt to move. Because I was furiously texting away. But now I just use voice to text.

SPEAKER_01 48:47

Yeah, you do have fierce typing on the phone. And I have fierce typing on the laptop.

SPEAKER_00 48:53

Honestly, that's why I had to hang up with you. Was it yesterday? There was you were we were FaceTiming and you were typing, and it was too much. I couldn't. It was like the the audio sensation. You're like, I gotta go. I gotta go. I can't I made up some excuse to get off the phone because I couldn't listen to you type anymore. I was like, that's too much. That happened to me at work though, because I'm also an aggressive typer. I was on like a um a Google Meet. We use Google Meet in my office, team Zoom self, same thing. And I was typing as other people were talking, and someone asked me to mute out because they could hear me typing. And I was like, no.

SPEAKER_02 49:29

I just have an aggressive fingers.

SPEAKER_00 49:32

I don't know. Me. I was told I walk with a purpose because people can hear me stomping down the hall. And I also type with a purpose because oh, I have to respond to that one email today. Maybe.

SPEAKER_01 49:45

Um, anyhow. It took her 10 days to respond to mine, so she can wait 24 hours.

SPEAKER_00 49:52

Um distracted me from my notes.

SPEAKER_02 49:57

All your fans are commenting on your video. Are they? All right. Let's talk about slowing down. Okay. How you should slow down.

SPEAKER_01 50:16

I feel like I've slowed down a lot. Really?

SPEAKER_00 50:20

I mean, obviously when you were like physically unwell, you were When I was physically unwell. Your hours were lower that pay period. I didn't notice.

SPEAKER_01 50:27

Yeah, it was a lot lower. I was sleeping a lot. My husband did make a comment. He's like, you know, I really loved the first trimester with you. I was like, why? I was like a terrible, miserable human being. He was like, no, I had a nap partner. Because he'd like come home from work and then I was like, oh, yay, nap time. And so I'd we go take a nap and then we'd wake up. And he's like, wow. I was like, that's sweet. Um, he has been very great as far as Do you think he's gonna do night times with you?

SPEAKER_00 51:06

Oh have you guys talked about a schedule?

SPEAKER_01 51:08

We have not talked about his schedule, but he he's a very hands-on man, so I already know like that's not gonna be an issue in taking turns. And I mean, we have two dogs together, so we both have taken turns once upon a time with nighttime routines. I don't know. 3 a.m.'s hit different with a newborn. Oh, I'm sure. And like fadings and all that.

SPEAKER_00 51:37

So I think what's hard for what was hard for me is like everyone tells you to sleep when the baby sleeps, which sounds great in theory, and your husband clearly is gonna have no problem doing that. Um, but for me, I was like, well, that's the only time I have to like get things clean and like get things done. And so also Garrett only took like a week off when I had Wyatt, so I was by myself for most of my maternity leave. Yeah, it's I've never fully recovered. We might get divorced one day over it. Who knows? I'm kidding. Um it was tax season. He didn't own his own company and he's working for someone else, and it was a very tough time, and I get it. But um yeah, when Wyatt would go to sleep, which she never slept the first five weeks because there was like weight loss issues with her and like milk fat issues and all the stuff we were working through. Um but when the I was like, this is the only time I have to clean the house, and then like he would come home from work and he would be exhausted. And I'm like, uh, absolutely not, sir. Like I've been with this screaming tyrant all day long. The house is a disaster. I have got no sleep. And the 30 minutes she did nap, I got like three dishes done, and I have to sanitize these fucking bottles, and it's like a whole thing. So ever it was much better because we were in a different place in our lives, and you know, yeah, he was able to take time off, and I it was COVID, so like I basically wasn't working and it was that's good, a lot better.

SPEAKER_01 53:12

Yeah, yeah. I'll definitely have to slow down and certain areas and create like an actual schedule for myself because as of right now, my schedule uh because I'm not I'm not single, but I do spend a lot of time just solo and it's just me and the dogs. And so working for a job that's Pacific Hours, I have taken advantage right now in the mornings to have like slower mornings where those are the times I teach, those are the times now that I'm like working out, those are the times I'm like getting all my chores done, like grocery shopping, cleaning, like all the items. And then by like 11 a.m. Eastern time, I that's when I'm like fully sat. And then I just like as things come up out here, I'll stop and then I'll come back to it like eight o'clock, and then I'm working till like or doing things until like 10 or 11 p.m. And so I know that's gonna have to change and just setting like strict schedule times, which will be good for me, so I'm not like getting weird hours in, you know.

SPEAKER_00 54:36

So yeah, and we've talked about that where I've like tried to tell you, like, hey, I can handle the evening questions that come through. Yeah, but you don't let me.

SPEAKER_01 54:47

I, you know, I have such a hard time with like letting go of work. I think I've gone a little bit better as a mentality of if I see you helping, it's not because I'm failing. Like this is.

SPEAKER_00 55:05

But I feel like you take it that way. Because then when I do help with stuff, you send me very non-emojied responses back, no punctuation. No like this morning when I like took care of a charge issue. You were like, Thank you, I'm almost home.

SPEAKER_02 55:23

I was gonna voice to text.

SPEAKER_00 55:25

Helping, I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_01 55:27

You know what my voice, I think that the voice to text is picking up my like tone. And so I'm like, thank you, I'm almost home.

SPEAKER_00 55:36

But clearly tell it to say it, thank you, exclamation point. You have to tell it to say exclamation point, or it won't put one in. But that's her happy face emoji.

SPEAKER_01 55:47

That's how I'm saying it. And then I look back and read it, I'm like, oh, that's not how it sounded. It's how it was received.

SPEAKER_00 55:58

She's mad at me for helping her.

SPEAKER_01 56:01

No, no. Um, but I'm like slowly letting go of some item. Sorry. Well, you know, at least you show your hair.

SPEAKER_00 56:13

I just look like a bald human being all the time on the podcast. No, we've talked about it. It's your bone structure, okay? I do it needs to be showed off. Shown off.

SPEAKER_01 56:23

Truly. Look at this. That is one thing I do every single day, ladies. Gouacha your face in the morning. Take about, I mean, it takes time, takes five minutes. I do it while I'm trying to pick out my workout outfit for the day because that's what I live in. I just gouache my face for that time. I'm like going down my neck, creating a chiseled jawline for myself, pulling up on the forehead because your girl can't do Botox right now. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_00 56:53

I news went to go. I was taking a photo. Oh, yes. I went to dinner on Sunday with some of the moms from school for like a belated birthday dinner, plus it was another mom's birthday that neck this upcoming weekend. We took a photo. I look, first of all, I got stuck under like the overhead light, and it was terrible lighting. And so it just showed everything. Oh, yeah. And I have so many wrinkles, and then so then I went to go text my filler girl, and I was like, hey, I need to get in. Like, this is tragic. Yeah. It's been like a year and a half since I got filler, and yeah, not okay. Luckily, filler does last a long time. All those lines. I don't care what the forehead, it's like it's these lines right here.

SPEAKER_01 57:39

Yeah, I don't want to be mean, but I need to be honest. Like, yeah, you do need Botox. I'm sorry, friend. That is mean. No, I would expect you to say the same thing to me.

SPEAKER_00 57:50

So you do need Botox, and you can't get it for I do. For my chief.

SPEAKER_01 57:54

Look at how gross I am.

SPEAKER_00 57:56

Why did you tell me? I didn't have time to think about my face.

SPEAKER_01 58:01

You never like brought it up. No, I'm like, I'm not gonna bring it up unless she brings it up, and then I'll tell you, yes, you do need Botox.

SPEAKER_00 58:09

You should have told me, bitch, you got wrinkles. I don't look okay. So here are the things you look beautiful though. We talked about this in Utah. We never take pictures together. I never take pictures of myself. So I'm always taking pictures of my kids or my husband with my kids or my dog or like whatever. I very rarely take pictures of myself. And so when I'm doing my makeup in the mirror, yeah, I'm not like smiling or like making lines. I'm very like straight faced. Yeah. And so I don't realize that the wrinkles have come back. And last time I went, I tried to get more lip filler, and she was like, No, you're not giving you any. You don't need to be fine. Your lips are totally fine. I feel like I will say that I need more. Just a little bit. I will say though, I was at the dentist a couple months ago last month, and the dental tech was like, Do you have lip filler? And I was like, Yeah. She's like, It looks like so natural. And I was like, that's the yeah, yeah. No, it still looks very good. I think I might have got a little bit in my bottom lip last time, but I don't think I've had my top lip done in almost two years. And it's, I mean, I I think it still looks good. It still has crazy. The men of TikTok probably don't agree, but you know.

SPEAKER_01 59:18

Whatever, suck it, whatever, suck on that top lip.

SPEAKER_00 59:23

Please don't.

SPEAKER_01 59:25

Um, no, I feel like Amy has told me the same thing, and I was like, I really need Botox, and she's like, Yeah, you do. I'm like, thanks. Well, that's a very Amy thing to say. Yeah, yeah. And I and she's in that world, so profession. Yeah, she's in that professional industry.

SPEAKER_00 59:47

Well, your girl is getting filler and Botox. Yay! Oh my god, it's so bumpy. Um in next Friday. Oh, that's so exciting. I'm gonna feel so good. Yeah. That'll look good. What we don't want to look like is Kelly Osbourne. Have you seen her in your pictures? Yeah. What's with all the buccal fat removal? Like, I just don't know. I don't know what buccal fat is, but I see it in the headline. Can we transition? Are we done with this topic? Sure, if you want to. Do you have more to add?

SPEAKER_01 1:00:25

I don't know. Did you being pregnant? No, just like expectations of women and all of the sure.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:36

I guess we should talk about that. We'll come back to it. Is it did I say Kelly Clarkson or Kelly Osborne? You said Kelly Osborne. I meant Kelly Osborne. Okay. Um, let's talk about expectations. So I think you described it perfectly where you were like felt bad about having to take a nap. And I remember when I was pregnant with Wyatt, it was I was blessed with a super easy pregnancy, but with Everett, I like could not, and again, thankfully it was COVID, but we were still supposed to do like some like computer work, but we were home. If I was not lying in a dark room, if I sat up instantly nauseous for like weeks, and so I was just laying in a dark room and I felt so useless to the world, but also like you just gotta do what's best for you, and none of that other shit matters. And even like the other day, I was so sick, and I literally started getting ready for work. And I was the one I am convinced I had the OG COVID. So February of 20, when did COVID start? 2020. I have never been that sick in my life. I had a cough for over a month. Wyatt had a cough for over a month. She got tested for every strain of the flu, every virus, everything was negative. They're like, it's some weird virus. She was so the world shut down in March 2020. She was on a nebulizer. I'd gone to urgent care three times, and I just kept going to work. I'm like, I don't know. I just like I'm just sick. Like I you just you go to work, probably spreading all my germs around. Yeah. And then on her birthday party day, her birthday's February 24th, so it's the end of the month. I was coughing up blood. And I was still teaching. Yeah. I went to the doctor, went to our care. They're like, oh, you have walking pneumonia. Gave me a shot of penicillin, penicillin in the butt, which hurt like a motherfucker. Yeah. And a Z pack. And then I still showed up to teach the next day. I went to the bathroom to cough up some blood. Like, this is what we do as women. And the other day I was like not this sick by any means. It was just like a head cold. But I was exhausted because it was up from 12 to 4, couldn't sleep because my nose was running so much. I was blowing my nose. I was coughing. And I started getting ready for work. And I'm like, why am I going to work right now? And then even I went and I like was teams chatting with or Google chatting with people about some stuff, like it's our like planning season. And then I went to go lay down and I took a nap for like 20 minutes. And I like felt bad. Even though I was literally taking a sick day, but like something in me, yeah, I was just like, Yeah, I have to work. I have to work. I have to work. And like we need to figure out how to break this cycle because it's not healthy. So when you have your baby, please take time off. I shall try. You know what? I'm gonna I'm gonna delete you from Slack. I'm gonna change the email passwords. That's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna delete you from Club Ready.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:22

Oh no.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:24

No. I don't feel like you're gonna fire me. I did feel was it yeah, it was last week. I made some mistakes at work and um it did irritate you a little bit, maybe a lot of it. A lot of it. I was like, this is the end of me. I'm a liability. I'm cannot be trusted. Like, what is wrong with my brain?

SPEAKER_00 1:03:54

Like, she's gonna fire me because I'm pregnant, and I'm that would be illegal, so everyone remember that you can never be fired for being pregnant.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:02

But I was coming up with scenarios in my head of like reasons why you would let me go without it being like because I'm pregnant.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:10

I would know that it was because I was pregnant. Did you chat GPT yet? What is my boss gonna say I'm getting fired for so that she doesn't have to say it's because I'm pregnant? No, I mean I gave out not some personal information. That was like the worst day ever for a lot of different reasons. Yeah. Like the stereo systems at both studios weren't working, I was getting texts about it all day. I'm like, I can't fix it right now. Like, I'm sorry. That happened. I was under a deadline for work. Um, something else, I don't know what was going on, but it was just like that was the tipping point for me. I was just like, for sure I'm done. Yeah, yeah. Um I don't think we talked for like two days. No, I'm the one where besides my husband, I will give you space and you know because on that was on a Thursday, I remember, and then Saturday morning was also like an annoying day because I had to go like I was tired and I had to go do stuff at the studio, and then remember I was driving to my son's baseball game, or I just got there and I was walking up and I was like, because of studio stuff, so I was already bummed. And you texted me, you're like, Are you still mad at me? Yeah. I was like, no. I was like, I'm just I'm at Everett's game, I'll call you later.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:41

Yeah, yeah, it was totally fine.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:44

But um yeah, I just had a specific expectation on myself, and when I don't meet those expectations, I feel extremely guilty and feel like I'm failing, which I know I'll Experience even more as a parent because there's so much stuff and things that are way out of your control when you are a parent. Um, so it's definitely great learning experiences and curves and all the things.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:17

Well, this is a great pivot to a legal topic on pregnancy. So just so everyone knows in the workplace, you are not allowed to be fired because you are pregnant. You are not allowed to be fired if you have a baby. Your employer has to provide you reasonable accommodations to do your job if physically you cannot perform the same duties. So there are protections in place. So chat GPT it as the people do these days. Everyone does. Everyone does for legal advice. And make sure that if you feel like you're getting burned by your company because you are expecting or you're afraid to tell them you're expecting, because you think it's going to impact something, you do have at least in America. I don't know if you're listening overseas, check those Chat GPT laws. But at least in America, you have protections for your job if you are with child.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:10

Yeah. And I'm very grateful to be in a industry where I can still healthily um continue my job. It just looks different, modifications and um the physical aspect of it all, which I'm very excited. I just need confirmation from one person that needs to get back to me. But I will be certified as a prenatal and postnatal trainer. So when I am in California next, I will be filming pre-slash postnatal pure bar videos for the app. For X Plus or for X Plus Internal Teachers. Oh yay! Yeah. Yeah. So I'm super excited about that.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:59

I feel like we should talk about you doing like more trainings for teachers too, like on Scooks. Cause I feel like that's an area. I know it's in the manual and stuff, but it's an area of opportunity where we could film like some or even like some um Instagram content on modifications that we can do.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:20

So we should anything for the mamas. We'll talk to moms.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:24

We'll talk to our friends. Or you can just do it for our studios too. That's fine. That too. Yeah. Oh, at our next team meeting, we can do reform plus pregnancy modifications. Yes. Yeah, because that's needed. I remember when I was super pregnant with Everett, and before I owned the studio, I was in class and we were doing um round back, which is like one of my favorite exercises. And I had a belly out to here, and like my legs were on the full diagonal. And I remember Kristen was like, Oh my god. It was like, Yeah, I know. And now superstar. Yeah. You know, pregnant women can do amazing. It's funny though, when you do some of those ab movements, your belly becomes like a teepee. It does. When you're pregnant, because like your abs are contracting and put the babies there. So it's like, yeah. It looks real weird. Last thoughts on pregnancy. Uh, have anyone seen the movie Prometheus? It's uh prequel to Alien and it's disgusting. Fantastic. But there is this scene. Sorry to traumatize you, but you've already seen it.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:29

You are my husband because these are his favorite movies. And he made me watch this, and I was like, why? This is disgusting. Not recently, but this here has haunted me forever.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:42

This scene haunted me, and I'm pretty sure I don't remember when this movie came out, but I'm pretty sure it's before I had kids. But this is all I thought about when I was pregnant and like the thought of having a C-section, which I did not have one, but shout out to the people that do because it's the recovery is like intense. But um, there's a scene in the movie where she gets pregnant by her boyfriend, but her boyfriend or whatever he is is already infected by the alien, and so it's an alien baby inside of her, and it like comes out with all his little arms and like they have to like abort it out. It's like a whole thing. So don't watch it if you're expecting, is my no notes.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:19

No, it's disgusting.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:21

It why? Why you feel like filthy people and hopefully we don't have alien children inside of us, but no, it it I will never forget that scene. Oh my god. Yeah, it's uh unforgettable one. I haven't seen all the alien movies. I did like, I think it was Alien vs. Predator. Is that the one Toby McGuire McGuire was in? That one was in like Forrest Whitaker, I think. Maybe that one was good. Wake up and I saw Prometheus having streams.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:52

Um he's just like shaking a lot. He was in a deep sleep as a Batman. Um yeah, those alien movies, they're no yeah, I saw Prometheus in theater, but that was terrible. And then there's another one that recently came out, um but and that was a little bit too real. As they like come out in today's day and age, they make it too real looking. And I'm like, no. The one the first alien movie from the 80s or 90s, that one I was like laugh at. I'm like, this is so silly. Like I'm pretty sure like the first alien came out. Was it like the 70s or was it 80s? Could have been uh one of those either 70s or 80s, and yeah, the CGI, it's like terrible, terrible, not great quality, just like silly.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:52

And then you've got 1779 was the first alien movie.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:55

Fine. Um yeah, I've only seen Alien. This has to be that one. Um anyway, I don't know what I've seen.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:13

No, I don't think it was this one. Anyway, or maybe it was just called Predators. It was about the because there was like Alien versus Predator. Yeah. I think it was just the Predators one I saw, and then I saw Prometheus. Can we pivot to I need to talk? I mean, congratulations, we're very happy for you. Um I'm dead. We need to talk about Taylor. I can't even say it, Taylor Frankie Paul.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:40

Yes, we need to pivot, and I hope we had great insight, maybe connected with someone that's pregnant or had recently been pregnant or has some fears that I'm experiencing. You're not alone, no one's alone, everyone has a different experience.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:58

It's okay. One more plug I want to make is for a book. It's called Expecting Better.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:03

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:04

And I stumbled upon it for my second pregnancy because my first one I was all like holistic, mood, like you know, crunchy, didn't want my child to have any chemicals or anything like that. I did everything right. And then I so I didn't start drinking coffee until after I had Wyatt. Like I never drank really caffeine before that. I don't know how you survived life. I didn't have a child. And so I was a spry 20-something. So, hello. Do you want to say hi to the fans? Hello.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:36

Hey G baby.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:38

Did you know I was pregnant?

SPEAKER_00 1:13:40

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:41

Oh.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:42

Did you know I announced it to the world? You didn't like or comment.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:45

You didn't like or comment on it. Oh. I I didn't like it.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:50

Did you see it? No. Have you been on Instagram? I was on Instagram.

unknown 1:13:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:58

Where would you like it at? She's not on the talk. I'm not on the talk.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:03

You're not friends with her on Facebook, so I don't know where you would see that. Anywho. Anywho. Anywho. Anywho. Um, yeah, so Expecting Better. It's a great book. It's written by an economist, and she basically dives into the studies of all the myths of pregnancy. So there's several chapters in this book. The only three I read were caffeine, sushi, and alcohol. Um, I don't want to misquote anything, but basically, you're fine. So read the book. Basically, you're fine. Everything's fine in moderation. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:40

And even my doctor, you know, do what feels right for you. Yeah. As far as like for me, caffeine, first trimester, I had one sip of coffee and it tasted like nickels. And that made me so sad because I don't know how to live a day without coffee. And my friends, I lived 30 plus days without it. And I was unwell. Rough life. And then I think I was with you all at it was in Utah. Yeah. It was in Utah, or I was having it before. It was the week I was in California. I was like, there's no way I can get through everything that I'm doing out here in the short amount of time without caffeine. And so I had coffee and it was a perfect timing because you gave me that book. And it was gosh, I forget how many exact milligrams, but it's equivalent to an eight-ounce or 12-ounce pour of coffee is what you could have a day. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:52

So it's like that. Sushi is fine. I'm not a doctor, ask your doctor everything, but according to this book, I'm quoting. Um the biggest concerns with sushi are like foodborne illnesses and then mercury. So don't eat like shark and swordfish and like the bigger fish, which I don't eat anyway. Go to a reputable sushi spot. If you wouldn't eat there when you weren't pregnant, probably don't eat there when you are pregnant. No. And you're and you're fine. Alcohol, I think it was like you can do third trimester equivalent of like one glass of wine a week. Like it's fine. Like, so when I was pregnant with Everett, like we'd have dinner. I'd have like a sip of my husband's wine at dinner every night, but just like one sip, just to like, you know. So, and also like there was something with the main study that people quote for pregnancy, like fetal alcohol syndrome, like issues, like something like some crazy number. Like 50% of the people in that study were also like crack addicts or something. So read the book. There, there's actual details about like the real numbers behind that. But it I'm paraphrasing, but it's like, was it the crack or was it the alcohol? We don't know. Right. So um, anyway, just do talk to your doctor, fill, do what's best for you and your body. If that's totally holistic and clean, that's amazing. If it's moderation in a way that works for your body and your doctor and like what you believe in, that's great too. Your baby will be fine. I'm you do crack, I wouldn't recommend that. But wouldn't recommend. We don't recommend the crack.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:30

Yeah. I did have crack though. I was craving it so bad. Oh, yes. And as in crack, I mean mountain dew, baby. I have not had any cravings. I have not had any cravings at all with this pregnancy. And except for one singular day, I woke up and I was like, I need the dew. Have you ever had Mountain Dew? I don't think I've ever had Mountain Dew because I don't even know what it tastes like.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:02

My parents would never let me drink it.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:03

Yeah, my mom would never let us drink it because she paraphrased it as though, as yeah, as if it was crack. And so I always assumed that Mountain Dew was a drug.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:13

And so I was never allowed to drink it growing up, and so I don't even know what it tastes like.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:18

Well, let me tell you, that day was my most productive day in my first trimester. It's cracking. I was ready to go. I conquered so much in that day. I was riled up and then I quickly crashed.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:33

You know what's so funny is I had a similar craving with both pregnancies. For Wyatt, it was just regular Coke, which I don't I can't even tell you at time I had regular Coke. So I don't even know what it tastes like. I just knew I wanted regular Coke. Like my parents never, like we never really drank soda growing up. And if anything, we were allowed to drink like Sprite or serum mist, and that was it. And good choices. I wasn't like a big soda drinker before. Now it's like if I don't have a Diet Coke a day, I'm bad. But I never drank regular Coke, and that's all I wanted. And then with Everett, I only wanted Mexican Cokes. And so I like single-handedly kept Chipotle near me in business during COVID because they sold Mexican Cokes and I would order it on DoorDash all the time because we were locked down. And I was like, I just need a Mexican Coke. And I'm sure I'd had one when I'd been to Mexico before, but like not, you know, like maybe one or two in my life. So random. And it's like that's the only thing I wanted.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:29

Yeah. Yeah. We'll see if cravings start coming, but yeah, I asked my doctor yesterday, is like, is it weird that I have like no cravings and like not extreme hunger? Like I'm just living my life as I normally would, minus like drinking, um, having like five cups of coffee a day. I've I'm down to one. Um, she's like, no, you're healthy, like your body was healthy before this, so it's just like doing what it knows to do.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:07

Yeah, but the only thing I had was the Coca-Cola. And it was more like food aversions, like you had your coffee and stuff, but it didn't last forever.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:16

It was so sad. It was so sad with the coffee. And then even the thought and like smell of wine made me want to gag. Uh in the thought, okay. Chick-fil-a.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:29

Have you has that come back?

SPEAKER_01 1:20:31

No, I will not touch a fried chicken sandwich. Uh it makes me want to it makes me want to gag. But I will have their chicken wrap. Yeah, this baby is so healthy. It's like, yeah, what do you eat? It's telling me, Mama, tonight I want salad. So tonight I had salad. Oh my god. Yeah, I had salad for dinner with like a little quesadilla I made.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:00

Why it was peanut butter and jelly sandwiches and regular coke, and then ever it was Chipotle with Mexican Coke.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:06

That's what Oh, you know what else? Maybe these are cravings. I don't know. I'm just like, I'm at the market and I see it and I get it, which is just like a normal behavior for me. And I saw rice cakes. I was like, ooh, that sounds really good. So I got some rice cakes. I'm gonna put some peanut butter and honey on it later.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:27

Yeah, you're like the most healthy pregnant person.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:29

That will be my little snack. It just sounds so good. And like I ate a whole thing of fruit the other day as like a snack. I was like, ooh, okay, something else. Do not say this to a pregnant woman. Oh, you're eating for two. No. Get off. No. I was somewhere last night and they had brownies as dessert. And so naturally I got two brownies because I would do that even not pregnant.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:57

One of them, it's always the men. They're like, oh, eating for two.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:03

Men should just be quiet. All the time. They should just be quiet. Don't speak unless spoken to. Okay. Yes. Yeah. I'm like, please stop. And it's like the men in my office with the burrito commentary.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:15

They just don't know how to like speak to people.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:20

No. Other than their kind. They need to all go to an island and speak to each other like that, and then we can just live here without annoyances. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:28

It would be fine. Yeah. So okay, yeah. Stop saying, oh, you're eating for two.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:35

No, I'm just eating, okay? I'm just eating. Okay. Comment on it? Do you want to talk about it? You want to talk about what you eat in a day? You want to talk about what you look like? I didn't think so. Sit down.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:47

Sit down. Be humble. Love that song.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:52

Um, yes. How did we get there?

SPEAKER_00 1:22:57

I don't know. Taylor, Frankie Paw, let's go. Yeah, let's go. But we started with lightness and we're going. Yes. And you know, RIP did the season of The Bachelorette that never was.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:10

We have to take it back to Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. And let's take it back to season one of how it started. Okay. With domestic violence. First episode. First episode right out the gate. They had to stop filming because of this domestic violence. And she went to jail. She went to jail. And this is how we started the series. And Whitney Levitt said it herself that Taylor is a liability to mom talk. And she is. Like, yes, she made them all famous because of her swinging scandal. Um, but she is a liability. And what's sad or unfortunate.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:54

Yeah, let's start first by recapping the current season. If we haven't banged it, skip ahead. Yeah, if you're having if you haven't by today, like you I we can actually we can't help you.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:06

So the season up until episode eight and nine was like a huge nothing burger. So episode the last two episodes, I think it was the whole dancing with the stars, Jen and Whitney drama, which don't even get me started. Jen needs take a seat.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:27

Okay. She needs a piece of humble pie. She was not a good dancer. Whitney was an outstanding dancer. She let Whitney let her family move in with her, and all of a sudden she's not a real friend.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:39

Like, let us not forget when Jen was going through some um, what was it? Pregnancy depression.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:50

None of the girls liked her with her. Yeah. The only one. Like Jen, you're jealous. And I'm I did see an E.T. interview she did the other day about like how she regrets how she behaved and stuff. I'm like, it's too late. You were clearly trying, you you're the reason Whitney didn't win the show, is because after you got eliminated, you had this whole online campaign about how you weren't supporting Whitney and she was a bully and all this stuff. And oh, well, now the new season dropped you were actually the bully the whole time. I've never liked Jen. I like her even less now. Zach is an absolute little gnome troll that needs to go go back to Arizona, wherever you guys went for like a hot second and just stay there. Okay. Stay there. Goodbye, Jen. I yes.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:35

If you did not watch Dancing with the Stars, what are you doing? But the exact scene I remember watching it live of Jen getting eliminated and Whitney's face. I too would laugh.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:48

I don't think she was laughing though. I in my when I watched that, I said she's relieved that she didn't go home and then immediately was like, oh shit, my friend's going home. Like that's what I took out of it. I don't like it. Was that after they got into that blow-up fight? That was before. Because Jen was are I think Jen was already eliminated, and then they were talking about how she tried like Whitney tried to reach out to her, and she's like, I didn't want to talk to you because I was eliminated. I was depressed. Yeah. You deserved to be eliminated. You were a shit dancer. I'm sorry, you weren't good. And Whitney was better. Like, that's just how it is. And it's just like she literally has, I've never liked her. Goodbye. And also, one other note on Whitney and Dancing with the Stars, they all got mad at her for saying that like Whitney only came back to the show because of Dancing with the Stars, which Whitney has said essentially. Yeah. But also, like when they were showing Miranda, and Miranda's like in her confessional, quite love Miranda. But she was like, Yeah, like you know, people were accusing me of only coming back, come coming to the show for clout, which if I hear that word one more fucking time, I'm gonna lose it. She's like, No, I just came back from I came for money. And I was like, that's exactly what Whitney did. Like, that is the same thing. So you guys can't judge her for doing it. You're all on the show for money. That's the only thing you guys aren't doing this because you're trying to spread some message about charity and positivity and like light in the world. You're all there because it's a job. She is too. Like, get the fuck over it. I'm sorry. This makes me really heated because Whitney is just a national treasure. And these women don't see her.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:28

They don't deserve her. They don't. And that's why she is thriving right now. We love you, Whitney. We love you, Whitney. We love you. We're your biggest fans. Please give us tickets to Chicago when Mark Ballis is Finn.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:48

I am so mad. I'm gonna beat in New York like three days after that run ends. I didn't see a dead. And yeah, maybe. But let's also Pivot back. The rest of mom talk at this point is unwatchable. And dad talk needs to go away. We didn't. This show is called Favorite Lives of Warfare Wise. We didn't ask for the dads. Theodore Chipmunk, whatever his name is, of Ellie and Chipmunks, needs to go away. Jordan is disordered. Like the if I have to see the dads have all the screen time. I mean, the fact when at the last reunion, which we talked about, when the dads got a whole segment on their own, this is show is not about them. Yes, they do. It's on because they're part of it. I'm sorry, I'm just going to keep going. But I'm very passionate about this topic. This show used to be so good, and they've completely ruined it with dad talk, with overusing the word clout, with overusing the word triggered. If I have to hear clout or triggered in a sentence again, I will go to my grave. So if you want to kill me, that's the way to do it. And Jen Affleck. That's it. And Jen Affleck. Those are the three causes of death. The three causes of death.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:03

Oh my. Yes. Dad talk is it's not necessary. It was a big waste of time for the first few episodes. The only person that deserves to be there in dad talk is Connor.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:17

The owner of the DM man. And he is not even technically part of Dad Talk this season because he's in LA the whole time. Exactly. Supporting his wife. As they all should be, because the wives make all the money. You guys aren't making shit except unnecessary commentary.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:35

Exactly. It's yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:39

I think the fact that Jordan's agent or manager or whatever got them Vanderpea. What do you do? You do like you don't have a job.

unknown 1:29:50

No.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:50

You're not mom talk. You're just not. I don't I'm not on the talk, so I don't see the numbers, but I just feel like they're not. I would question that agent.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:59

Right? Um, yes, dad talk, terrible. And then Taylor Frankie Paul.

SPEAKER_00 1:30:07

Taylor Frankie Paul. The Dakota Taylor saga is the episodes.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:16

It's hard because I've never been in a situation of a toxic relationship to that extent. Yeah. Because in my eyes, I'm like, why are you upset that he's talking to other girls? Like, why do we care? Like, yes, he's here. Yeah, exactly. You're about to be the bachelorette, you're gonna date all these men. You have a man coming over to your house, meeting the other girls.

SPEAKER_00 1:30:49

At the end of the day, it's because she's not over him and she's still in love with him. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 1:30:54

I'm like, why? And yes, he's probably like she has said, saying all the things like he loves her, he wants her back, but like, what is she saying to? Yeah. And for him to like keep doing this. I mean, it's a two-way streak. At first, I was like, Dakota is the issue, which he I'm sure he is. He has his fault. Yes, it takes two to tango in this, and um the fact that the show allows him to be part of it, it's just like mind-blowing still.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:28

I mean, they're doing it for ratings, and but at this point, it's it's exhausting. Like it's the same shit over and over. It's so unwatchable. I texted Kelsey and Ava because they had already finished it and I was behind. And I think I was like halfway through, I think I was on episode six, and I literally texted them. I was like, I fear the show is unwatchable. Like it's just not interesting. It's the same stuff over and over again. I I can't deal with like the constant Dakota Taylor nonsense.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:55

It's just it's never ending tired, it's very tired. And then watching her speak to her mom was terrible, disgusting. And then she goes, like, I don't know the timeline of when she went to her hometown to get closure with her dad and his past and all of that. I'm like, this is a little too late to be doing this. If you want closure before you're going to be like on a show where the premise is to find your husband. If you're not mentally, emotionally ready, it's too late.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:37

It's like you shouldn't have even had conversations with them. I'm also honestly floored that the executives at ABC and Hulu and just it's all the same company thought this woman was mentally stable enough to be the bachelorette and that none of this would have transpired to have to literally the show was supposed to premiere in three days, or I guess this is gonna go on Friday, so two days. To have to shelve an entire season because of all the nonsense that hasn't sued since then. Like the fact that she wouldn't go to the airport with her children and her mom to fly to LA because she was so sick. Like, no, you weren't sick, you were mentally like she's like, She slept with your baby. Yeah, you just slept with your baby daddy when you're gonna go meet all these men to like find a stable husband and relationship. Like, you were not well. And the fact that they went through with a whole season, and like, spoiler, not spoiler, because it's never gonna air, apparently. What I heard is she gets engaged, and then within a month of the show concluding, her and her, the guy she gets engaged to break it off. She breaks it off with him, whatever. Yeah. And then this fight happens, which broke in the headlines this week of between domestic violence instant between her and Dakota. Yeah. It's just like it's wild. And I do not know what's gonna happen with that show. I wouldn't be surprised if it goes. It can't continue at this point.

SPEAKER_01 1:34:03

What is there to film and talk about? And I don't want to watch them talk about domestic violence. I don't want to see Dakota on my screen. I don't want to see Jordan on my screen defending Dakota. I only want to see um Jesse and Macy at this point and Whitney. And I know Whitney's gonna, she doesn't want anything to do with this now. Like she's doing bigger and better things.

SPEAKER_00 1:34:31

I like Miranda. Layla cannot stand. She's tries way too hard to make herself relevant. And who, whatever doctor prescribed the 99-pound girl on the show, GLP Ones, needs to have his license revoked or her license revoked. That was really sad to see, too. Yeah. It's this is yeah, people are way abusing those drugs, and she did not need them. She's gorgeous. Yeah. Um, but also I she just keeps trying to insert herself into situations to like have a storyline, and it's just it feels we talked about this last season too. It feels so forced that it's just like it comes across cringe. Um Justine's been annoying me this season, though.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:12

It I did frustrating because of the whole Jordan thing. It's like you are this beautiful, beyond successful woman. And then watching her like crush or like break down because she's looking back at her prenup or was it yeah, her prenup? It was a prenup, yeah. And that it wasn't fully signed, and she's freaking out because if she were to file for divorce, she's stating that he would be likely to take everything. And that's just disgusting.

SPEAKER_00 1:35:49

Well, half, but yeah, it's unfortunate that that's her situation, but it's also like no re I know it's easier said than done, but that's she has enough money, that's no reason to stay married, like in a toxic relationship. Oh, for sure. The kids absolutely feel that. And I think like the one thing I did like what Chase said, I don't, I'm not really a big Chase fan, but um when he's like uh Miranda's baby daddy. Oh, yeah, yeah. When he's like, well, this is why your wife's sleeping at a Hyatt three nights a week or something. It's just like, yeah, because you guys have a toxic relationship, you're only staying together for the money, and your kids absolutely feel that. And like, is that is it better to have parents that are happy and not together or miserable and together? I'm guessing it's a nine out of ten times. Happy and not together. Yes, child of divorced parents. Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 1:36:46

Please, for the sake of the children. I know it's so hard being a parent and wanting to do the best for your kids, but your kids feel it, they experience it, they see it, they understand it more than you know, and it affects them more than you know. And going into their adult life, you better be prepared for the therapy that comes with it.

SPEAKER_02 1:37:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:11

So for the sake of your children, separate, please. Please. Please and please. Please, please and thank you. Yes, it's gonna be a tough conversation to have with them, but they're gonna get a better, healthier home life of not like being afraid every single day to come into the house and walking on eggshells. Like, what version of my parents am I gonna get today? Is there gonna be a huge blow-up fight tonight? Am I gonna get in trouble for like forgetting to like do this or that around the house because there's already so much tension, you know?

SPEAKER_00 1:37:49

So Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:51

Please, for the sake of your children, leave. Yeah. Leave. And then this ties into what came out today with Taylor Frankie Paul, the disgusting video is of terrible. Yes, it was from 2023, but there's no excuse. There's no you do not do that to another human being. And especially with a child in the same room.

SPEAKER_00 1:38:17

And the fact that so if you haven't seen it, Taylor Frankie Paul's essentially attacking Dakota. Her child, her daughter, is on the couch, who's sub-10 years old. I don't know how old she is, technically. Yeah. But she's a child. Not that in any age it would make a difference.

SPEAKER_01 1:38:35

By the noise of the cry like and whimpering. Yeah, it's yeah, it's a under seven-year-old, is what I'm assuming.

SPEAKER_00 1:38:45

So she's assaulting him. She starts picking up bar stools and throwing them at him. One of them ricochets allegedly and hits the child. Even if it doesn't, you hear the kids screaming. Dakota, who I don't like as a human, but he's the only one trying to like console the child while simultaneously trying to tell Taylor to stop. And it's it was such a heart-wrenching video as a parent to watch. Like I would hope that my children would never, ever, ever be in a situation like that, whether it would never I can confidently say this would never happen in my house. But also, like, you know, if they were ever at a friend's house and you know, the parents got in a fight or something, but like it was so distressing that that behavior you would think is acceptable to do in general as a human being, but especially around a child, is just like I lost any sense of respect for her I had. So exactly.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:52

I'm happy that they canceled her season. There's no way they could have yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:40:01

They can't support that. And I don't think Dakota's an angel. I think he's definitely part of it. I'm sure he has abused her too.

SPEAKER_01 1:40:08

I but I just like it's it's whether it's verbal, whether it's in defense, whatever it is, he's not like clean either. Yeah. It it is questionable the video release of it, but I think only because I've saw videos of this of like the girls in the past saying that anytime there's something like exciting happening within mom talk, any premiere, Dakota ruins it somehow.

SPEAKER_00 1:40:43

Well, I think he uh released it, or whoever released it, which was obviously someone connected to him if it wasn't him. Yeah. Because she, when the news came out that there was this recent domestic violence incident last month, and the news at least framed it as she was the aggressor. Yeah. She went on this press tour she was doing for her Bachelorette and saying, like, you know, I'm just like here to protect my family. And like she was basically like on the defensive of like, no, he was the aggressor, and so he was. I think that's why the video got released. Yeah. Um, personally, because obviously he held on to it for two years for a reason. So Right. It's just really sad.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:26

It's sad, it's disgusting to see. It's everywhere on the internet right now. I need mom talk to release a statement though, because I really need to know what they're thinking.

SPEAKER_00 1:41:36

I yeah, I need them all to release something. They probably And on the heels of Whitney's Big Week. It was the highest grossing week ever of Chicago. She's living it up.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:48

Yeah. Proud of her. She got out. She got out. She got out of Utah. She did it. She did it. She did it. She escaped. She escaped. Yeah, it was crazy. I was so excited before watching Secret Lives of Mormon Wives season four for the Bachelorette season. We had plans as friends to like be watching it together somehow with our schedules. Like it, I'm sure it was going to be a great season. But then, yeah, the timeline of Hulu dropping season four paired with the premiere of Bachelorette was not good. Yeah, someone's getting fired at Disney right now. Someone's getting fired at Disney. And um, but you know what? It worked out. I think this is a blessing in disguise for Taylor for her to physically and actually get the help she needs.

SPEAKER_00 1:42:47

She needs like clinical help. Like she needs she can't, whatever therapist she had is not working for her. Yeah, it's very unfortunate, but you yeah. It's one of those things I feel like you need like a rude awakening of like, no, like this is actually what's happening. This is your reality. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:43:09

And I heard someone say this somewhere where like I think she viewed the bachelorette as an opportunity for like business and not like an actual thing for her love life. And I feel so bad for the men that we're on that season. There's probably like very eligible bachelors. So we need ABC to like whoop up something real quick. Like we share your idea because I think it's a very good idea. Yes, it's a great idea. Maybe I heard it somewhere else because Kelsey also had the same idea. So maybe we heard it somewhere together. But they need to bring in the most eligible bachelors from her season. Doesn't need to be all 30. It can be like 20, 15, I don't know, 10. Bring them in. Bring in Miranda or bring in someone else that is in that realm but not toxic.

SPEAKER_00 1:44:12

Yeah. Miranda's a good candidate. I think she's yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:44:16

Bring her in, do Love Island type version where we're getting next day video coverage of their love life playing out. I think that would save the franchise.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:31

I think so. So, ABC, listen up.

SPEAKER_00 1:44:35

Jesse Palmer, listen up. Jesse Palmer? I haven't watched The Bachelor or Bachelorette in a couple years, and this was the first season I was gonna watch. And yeah, season for the ending, I was like, it's just not it's a it she did it, and it totally makes sense. She did it for the opportunity for like self-promotion versus actually like literally trying to find love. So I do feel bad for the people who actually took a people like quit their jobs to go on these shows, they do, and their flight take time away for their kids if they're you know parents, and yeah, for her to like not take it seriously at all is just like kind of a slap in the face to all those people.

SPEAKER_01 1:45:17

And it I feel so bad for the guy that did propose to her and is seeing it.

SPEAKER_00 1:45:21

She clearly had no intention of ever following through on that.

SPEAKER_01 1:45:26

No, she's literally FaceTiming Dakota in the car on her way to all the like press, like hours before she meets the men. Yeah, she sleeps with him the night before. I would be so livid if I were that man, like watching his back.

SPEAKER_00 1:45:49

And she's doing that with her kids in the house. Like her kids were home because the mom came and took the kids to go to the airport. Yeah. And it's like, what do your kids think of it? Like, what what example are you setting? Like, it's just liter I mean, clearly what we saw from the 2023 video, not a good one, but like no, it's just it's so sad. And if I was her ex-husband, I would probably be suing for full custody.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:12

But yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's what they are planning, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:46:19

Oh, really? I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:46:20

I saw a picture of him and Dakota together outside a courthouse. Oh, really? I think this is where it all came out. So when everything happened in February, they were working together to get full custody. I think that I might be sorry, rumors. I don't know. There's been so much that has come out. R.I.P. to both of them.

SPEAKER_00 1:46:44

And I hope that her children find stability. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:46:49

I my heart breaks for the children out of all this.

SPEAKER_00 1:46:53

The worst. The kids should never have to experience that. And that's like whatever issues you have with your partner, keep it away from the kids, first and foremost.

SPEAKER_01 1:47:04

Absolutely. Protect the children.

unknown 1:47:07

Protect the children.

SPEAKER_01 1:47:08

Always. Well, that's our episode.

SPEAKER_00 1:47:12

Everyone say congrats to Ava and her pair. And my pair. Her pair. Such a cute beat. I'm so excited to see you in a couple weeks. Yeah, you'll be out here in a couple weeks. Yes. Um, yeah. And we'll be back to our regularly scheduled content next week. But we hope you enjoyed today's episode with our exciting news and explanation for why you was so boring lately. And now we can actually talk about it. It's gonna be great. We can talk about it.

SPEAKER_01 1:47:45

Get button. I don't have to defend myself.

unknown 1:47:48

No.

SPEAKER_01 1:47:49

You played it off very well.

SPEAKER_00 1:47:51

There was always a reason. I don't know. Yeah. The bears were in hibernation, so what else? You know, there was no dead bears to see. No dead bears, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:48:02

Do they hibernate out there? They do. Yeah. They are probably coming out of hibernation right now. Yeah. Well, I don't know how long they sleep.

SPEAKER_00 1:48:13

Do they sleep the whole time? We should chat GPT this. Um, are they like awake in the den? Or are they like in a full coma? We'll have to chat GPT. Also, shout out to the city of Monrovia for trying to save the bears. And you know what, California Department of Fish and Wildlife, screw you. Because they killed a mama bear this week who had two cubs.

SPEAKER_03 1:48:37

Why?

SPEAKER_00 1:48:37

And they took custody of the cubs because she swiped out a woman walking her dog. Like, you live in bear country, deal with it. And even the city was like trying to save the bears and get them relocated to a different place in the Angeles National Forest. And Fish and Wildlife euthanized the mom. So screw you. You're on our shit list this week, in addition to all the other things. Those bears are scary too.

SPEAKER_01 1:49:05

Those are brown bears.

SPEAKER_00 1:49:08

Black bears. Black bears. They're like small bears. I mean, black bears are brown now. Like they call them black bears, but they're really brown. Yeah. Let me Google it. We have true black bears here in Tennessee. Oh, maybe that's right.

SPEAKER_02 1:49:22

What bears live in Southern California? Black bears. Oh. They look brown.

SPEAKER_00 1:49:32

Yeah. They appear brown, cinnamon, or blonde. Oh cute. Yeah, so R.A.P. to the mama bear and her cubs are traumatized for life because of you. The lady was fine. She didn't die. She got a scrape on the back of her leg. So, you know. Oh no. Oh. Can I address the bet or no?

SPEAKER_01 1:49:54

Oh my gosh, the bet. Or the one that um commented? Yeah. On social media. My goodness. Well, I do have an update of my vet visit, which was traumatizing. Not traumatizing. It was, I was horrified. So we'll start with the veterinarian that commented on my story. So on social media, the clip of our episode last week talking about the vet and how we've taken our dogs to the vet when they've had issues arise and they hit you with like all scenarios, but majority of the scenarios all begin with the worst case possible.

SPEAKER_00 1:50:36

So yeah, it was about when I was talking about my dog going in because she was peeing blood, and the first thing the doctor tells me is she has it could be it could be bladder cancer.

SPEAKER_01 1:50:45

Yes. And so this girl I have not talked to in many a moons, many of years since high school. She is a veterinarian and she was very passionate and that we need to be careful in what we're saying and how we're saying it because there's a high suicide rate in the vet community.

SPEAKER_00 1:51:08

And and she did say too, like, there's no, I don't believe, or there's no way that the the doctor actually, the vet actually said like it could be bladder cancer or something. Yeah. Like, bitch, were you in the room? Like, I'm not, first of all, I'm gonna publicly go on record saying I love my vet. My current vet is fantastic. I appreciate that. I consider I tried to switch my major. No one knows this except like Garrett, probably, in college, my junior senior year, because I decided I want to be at a veterinarian. And then I was a finance major. And then they went through basically it was too far into my degree. And so I would have to go to career changing like intermediate college to get all these science classes under my belt. And I was like, that's too much fucking work, and then go to vet school. So it's like we're abandoning the vet dream. I love animals, I love vets. I appreciate what they do. This doctor, I'm sorry, I didn't realize you were in the room with me when the doctor told me bladder cancer, but she says there's no way that the doctor told me it was bladder cancer. Yeah. He actually said, and it's not my current vet, clearly. Yeah. He actually said it was bladder cancer. So you know what? You weren't there, you don't know. I appreciate vets, but this vet threw out bladder cancer as the first option. Like it or not, believe it or not, this actually happened to me. Don't discredit my experience because it's something you wouldn't do.

unknown 1:52:24

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:52:25

Thank you very much. That's my one talk.

SPEAKER_00 1:52:31

Yeah, we're not gonna do that because we're not mean girls. Right. And you can take your comments and post them on an actual story or an actual post versus in a private DM so that I can actually respond to it publicly. But you wouldn't do that because clearly you were afraid of my wrath. And instead, you just got it on the pod. So I don't know you. I don't care to. I hope your vet patients never have you come at them with cancer. The first word because clearly you said that that would never happen. It happened to me. And it happened to I. And it happened to you too. So it actually does happen. Maybe call your but friends.

SPEAKER_01 1:53:11

Update on my little boy. We tried to go in for a follow-up on his butthole. And sorry, happening. The vet was so slammed and jam-packed. One of the doctors called out. So the vet tech, it was a new one that I hadn't seen before or hasn't like been in the room with our case before. And so I gave her like a full history, a full background of what happened at the last visit, um, what the diagnosis was. And I think she was just so overwhelmed with like everything going on, like behind the scenes at work. She didn't quite hear what I said, specifically that the last time I was here, he was sedated and had to have a full exam and an anal gland extraction with that. And so she's like, okay, we'll take him back and do another exam and extract his anal glands. I was like, in my head, like, okay, good luck. And so they take him into the back, which is very close to the patient room that I was in, just waiting. And I hear my little boy whimpering. And then I hear another vet tech go, oh my god, and then I hear the other vet tech going, get it together, like calm down, like put yourself together.

SPEAKER_02 1:54:37

And she's like, oh my God, the smell.

SPEAKER_01 1:54:40

And I'm just sitting in the other room, just like mortified. And then my poor boy is like, and then like you can hear him like scratching the wall because they're trying to like contain him. He's a big boy. And it was just like mortifying because they tried for I think like five minutes just trying to like get him down and like trying to extract the anal glands, and then they'd get like close, and then this woman would freak out, and then Hans would freak out naturally. Yeah. And then I was just like in the room dying of embarrassment. And then, and also just like complete complete horror of what I was hearing from my little boy. And then he comes in and he has some husky in him. And if you have huskies, you know that they talk. And so he comes into the patient room with the vet tech that we originally were talking to. And he's just like, and his ears are back, his eyes are wide open, and he's just like running in circles, just like talking at me. I'm like, I know, I know, my son. I'm so sorry. And she was like, Yeah, so we tried. I'm like, Yeah, I heard. She's like, I'm so sorry about that. I was like, Yeah, the last time he was here, he was fully sedated. She's like, What? I was like, Yeah, I mentioned that when you were asking for a history from the last visit.

SPEAKER_00 1:56:16

Is that him growling right now?

SPEAKER_01 1:56:17

No, it was out. That was Opal. She's over it. She's over me talking about Hans.

SPEAKER_03 1:56:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:56:23

Um, and so she was like, Oh, yeah, we're gonna have to have him come back. And this might have to be like a monthly thing, like looking at the state of his anus. I was like, Are you serious? Well, I'm not gonna have him sedated every single month in order for this to happen. She's like, We'll prescribe him some like medication to calm him so that you can give it to him before he comes into the appointment so that we can like actually get in there. So every month? I hope not. Uh we I got scheduled with the doctor, so hopefully she's actually there this Saturday. So TBD. I got the meds. Yes, and thank God, little opal girl, she's getting fixed Tuesday morning. Nice. She's yeah, it still is like the blood has gone down, but it's still she's still on a diaper. Only at nighttime.

SPEAKER_00 1:57:25

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:57:25

Because that's when it's the heaviest, is when she's sleeping. Interesting. Yeah, so she wears a diaper when she goes to bed. And poor thing. Yeah, we have to change the diaper when she wakes up and what a time.

SPEAKER_00 1:57:43

What a time. Well, with that, we hope you all have a wonderful day ahead. A great weekend. And we'll be back next week to talk about micromanagers' meetings and mental health.

SPEAKER_01 1:57:56

Updates on Hans's asshole and Opal's coach. Coach.

SPEAKER_00 1:58:02

And everyone, send Ava congrats on Joe Bidot. The little pair that was is in there. And we'll get updates. Updates. We're so excited to have a baby on the pod soon. Ayo. Ayo.

SPEAKER_02 1:58:20

Breastfeeding on the pod.

SPEAKER_00 1:58:22

Oh, that would be legendary.

SPEAKER_01 1:58:24

Legendary. Please do it. Tootoloo!

SPEAKER_00 1:58:28

Toodles!