[S2E12] Vincent Catalano: Five Years Later, He's Still Saying the Same Thing. Who’s Listening?

CLEARly Beneficial Podcast

CLEARly Beneficial Podcast
[S2E12] Vincent Catalano: Five Years Later, He's Still Saying the Same Thing. Who’s Listening?
Mar 23, 2026 Season 2 Episode 12
Vincent Catalano

In July 2021, Vincent Catalano sat down as a guest on the Healthy Dose of Dialogue Podcast with host Don Antonucci, Senior Vice President of Growth at Blue Shield of California. Vincent was then Senior Vice President of Employee Benefits at Lockton Insurance Brokers, one of the largest privately owned consulting firms in the world.

The conversation? Strikingly familiar. Vincent laid out the same truths he's still talking about today: employers praying for good outcomes instead of building strategy, the dangerous gap between HR teams and the C-suite, why most organizations have no real five-year healthcare plan, and what it actually takes to bend the cost curve.

In this special throwback episode, hear Vincent describe how the problem hasn't changed—and why the solutions he's been advocating for years are more urgent than ever. If you're an employer, benefits broker, or HR professional, this one's a reminder that the window to act has been open for a long time.

Originally aired July 16, 2021 on the Healthy Dose of Dialogue Podcast. Republished with permission from Blue Shield of California.

About Vincent Catalano: Vincent Catalano is the founder and CEO of CLEAR Healthcare Solutions and host of The CLEARly Beneficial Podcast. With over 23 years in employee benefits and healthcare consulting, he brings an independent perspective to issues the industry has long avoided addressing directly.

This episode is brought to you by HealthNEXT. HealthNEXT partners with employers to transform their employee health benefits through innovative, results-driven solutions that prioritize both cost savings and improved health outcomes.

Disclaimer: The information provided in this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only and should not be construed as legal, financial, or professional advice. Listeners should consult with qualified professionals regarding their specific situations.


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