Musings: “Rich Girl”

A single line from an interview can change how you see wealth, and today that line reorients everything toward the inside. We follow a thread from Jessie Buckley’s interview from The Colbert Late Show in which she talks about her character, Agnes, from her award winning performance in Hamnet. From which Buckley says about her character, “She is rich”— which asks us to go into the deeper question of what richness really means when it isn’t about money, optics, or curated perfection. Along the way, we bring in Stella Adler’s electrifying idea that some souls aren’t used up by life; they’re overflowing and need a stage. That lens reshapes ambition, identity, and the roles we choose just to hold all that feeling.

Our backdrop is Miami, a city built from glass and angles where being watched is easy and being witnessed is rare. We talk about reflections—literal and social—and how a culture of poses can sharpen or flatten who you become. I share what happens when the noise drowns out your voice and you’re left reading micro-movements, questioning whether you want attention or understanding. That tension pushed me back to making with my hands. When language fails, clay speaks. A weird, perfect sign pointed me toward sculpting noses for a new product launch: classical texture, modern attitude, a playful nod to Greek sculpture in the middle of nightlife neon.

This is a story about inner wealth as a practice: how craft pulls you into presence, how a city can train your posture, and how confidence shifts from costume to muscle when you prefer witness over watch. We explore creativity as a way of knowing, brand as art rather than noise, and the quiet power of saying “I am” until it’s true from the inside out. If you’ve been craving more depth, more stage for your soul, and a way to show up rich without a price tag, you’ll feel at home here.

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Transcript

A Clip That Won’t Let Go

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There is a clip of Jesse Buckley on the Colbert show talking about her character in Hamnet. And I can't get it out of my head because I just found it to be so beautiful in a world that is. You know, I I like a good mantra as next as much as the next person, and that's not something that I've kept a secret on my podcast thus far. But when it comes to like the the rich girl mindset, like um I'm a lucky girl, I'm a rich girl. What I love about this clip of this interview is that basically Jesse Buckley is talking about her character, and she says that her character, you know, that that this woman is rich. She has a rich inner landscape that is absolutely the perfect mirror to this writer that we know as, you know, William Shakespeare. And and that sh this this this like profound depth is is prevalent in in the script and in the character. And you know, I and I think that she's I haven't seen the movie yet, so I can't speak to the m to how I imagine I'm gonna be moved when I when I see it. Um I do plan to see it hopefully the next couple of days, especially because it's getting so many it's getting a lot of recognition, and I and I just feel as though I owe myself a great treat to see it in the big screen. But it's just that it's when it comes to a richness, like I love that it I love that this quote of hers is just living in my head right now because we so quickly talk about you know, we'll talk about food being rich, we'll talk about people being rich, bank accounts being stacked, we'll talk about the richness that exists like outside of us and alongside of us and what we own and what we possess, what possesses us, and yet what I what I love about this is that it is on the inside. Like this is something that is solely yours to hold, something that blooms within side of you, and you nurture the fuck out of it, and it and it pours out of you into the room around you and into the lives of the people around you, and it is a decadence that we are all able to taste and and to be inspired by, and it's not something that you buy, it's just something that you are innately. And there was another quote that I I came across in the last couple of days, and it's by Stella Appler, who is it's it's a clip of her masterclass on acting, and so she's talking to a room full of actors, you know, in an auditorium or a stage, and and she's with great with great stage presence and volume in her voice, she says, like, of course you want to be an actor, of course, you why I blame none of you for wanting to be an actor, it's because your souls are not used up by life. Which I I took to mean that you are just innately born with this decadence and this richness that your life just just reaches for for a stage or for meaning or for some great way to perform all of the being that it is, which is why so many people seek a role or a position or a stage or an identity, because it it it allows us in some way to embody that which we we cannot define and that which we seek so hard to define when it comes to you know the value of something. And it's like you can't the soul doesn't need you to place any it's it's invaluable, and it is it is it is everything and anything and it limitless, really. And and I don't know if I'm forcing these two quotes together, but they seem to complement themselves so well because I mean on the one hand you have an actress who even in listening to her, I I mean I could listen to actors and actresses and directors and and writers and just the whole I could listen to an artist talk about what it is that they do forever because of the life that pours out of them when they do it, and and it's so deeply personal. I'm like, how could it not be? Like, how could it not be personal? And it's this opportunity to be all that you are in moments where maybe in your waking life you you can't, and the idea of a a soul having so much life that hasn't been used is like I don't know, it just stopped me in my tracks when I heard that. And and it's coming after a weekend of play, like quite a bit of of play in Miami, which is you know, it's Miami. If you haven't been to Miami, allow me to give you a very biased opinion of it. Um when I talk about Miami, I usually say that it's it's got great art, like undeniably good art in every direction, and uh really good food. But that that you know, the people just want to be everybody wants to be looked at. Everyone's trying to be watched. And I think this is in a big juxtaposition to someone who wants to be witnessed. Like, you know, to be witnessed is to have intention and to be to to stand behind actions and and to be, you know, greatly cultivating something and in some sort of interaction with your environment, I think. And that's that's to be witnessed. And I think witnessing when I say it means that there's probably some depth at play. And so far, in many trips to Miami over a decade, I would say that that is a different that there's a lot of Miami has a lot of puddles. There's a lot of puddles, and with the city that loves to kind of like turn its nose up at you as a as a culture, it's like it's funny because you have to look down, you have to look down all the time to avoid stepping in a puddle, you know, and you have to look down at yourself in order to avoid what you're about to step in. And that is that's the best way that I can put it. Like, it's I and I understand so deeply why you know, men and women and and all of us in between are really distracted in Miami with the way that we are perceived in the way that we look, and especially with just I I think so much aesthetics and and like some idea of perfection. Because, you know, I stayed in a on the 47th floor of a high-rise with windows from every single wall had windows, and just nothing but there were no walls, it was all windows, right? And nothing but daylight from every direction of the Florida sun is encompassing this white room with everything white and everything mirrored inside of it, and you are just like that is those are my pores. I see my pores, I see everything, and you're so aware of what you look like at every angle because it's a city of reflections. This brings it back to the puddle metaphor, like it's just a part of your experience there, and there's and there's and yet there is a lot to be said for that. Like there is an experience there that that one soul I think so deeply desires to have. And for me, it's like who am I if I'm not speaking, or if I'm not talking, or if I'm not, if I'm not telling you some story that's gonna get you to to be some sort of to be in inspired or curious to talk to me or to laugh with me or at me, like who am I if you can't hear me? Like, who am I if you can just see me? Like, am I pretty enough to be in this room? And do I like that? Like, do I want to be in a room that that is the and then and then suddenly you're looking around everybody else and you're like, are any of these people pretty enough to be here? And you're like, oh no, these are gross thoughts. But yet you're not the only one having them, and I think that there's a just a severe honesty there, and I think there's a social game that's played in Miami that's not played in other places, which is like who who are you when you're here, and it's that way with any city, it brings out something in you, you know, bringing you back to the beginning of this podcast, like some part of you, some soul being has so much life to live, and there is a version of it that can expand in this space. And and I've just realized that I was just watching, and I became the watcher a lot because I can't hear super well in Miami nightlife scenes, like it's super loud, um, and I'm super super sensitive, and so I, you know, people would be talking into my ear, like their mouth would be in my ear hole, and I would just be like just listening, and then that I don't think that they could hear me because I just don't project that loud, and so then it becomes more of a game of like watching one another, and I think it's super easy to stand around and like two-step with someone and watch them when they have no facial expressions because you're just like I have no idea what's going on, and it's fine for me. That would be terrible, but I think for a lot of other people in this environment, they love it because that they don't know what it means and they love not knowing, and there's freedom in not knowing, and yet for me, like I have a super expressive face, so if I can't understand you, I'm looking at you like like I can't understand you, and and when I dance, I dance with my whole body. I don't just two-step, you know, like I'm not and every look and pose and maneuver that I make isn't for the best photo that you're gonna be putting on Instagram, like and there's just so much of that in every every micro movement of the people that that live there, and and yet something about that can just be so interesting and so studied. Like, I'm so curious because I'm like, well, what version of me is is micro and and who am I in my micro movements? Like, who am I? Am I still like does my vibrancy, I feel like, is in my ability to move around? And I'm like, whoa, but there's so much unbotheredness with the way that a lot of nightlife happens there, and yet also it's Miami, and so I think of like you know, maybe like maybe 80s and 90s Miami, where it's really the dance culture is on and it's super fluid, and you've got a very um Hispanic influence. You've got you've got you've got that Miami heat, you know, and that's just not really not that's not happening as much now, and lot of sky rises, a lot of sky rises, but a lot of good art, and it brings me back to my soul, and I'm like, what part of my soul can dance here if I can't really dance here right now, if if I'm dancing alone, and I just found that I wanted to make art so much, you know, because when I when I feel like I can't really talk to someone and really express and be heard and even have that type of communication, um, it brings out the visual artist in me, the one who's just like, well, I guess I'm gonna have to show you what I mean, you know, and and I'm grateful for that because I got to make, you know, I got to make some art in Miami this weekend. We're launching a product that um I mean it's exciting and it's it's new and it's and it's something that I was um I was uncertain about, like what my involvement would be. And I asked for I asked for a sign actually before I really wanted to like emotionally or mentally commit to the project. I asked for a sign, and the sign was um a nose. Like I wanted, I wanted, I like you know, I remember like pointing to my nose because the nose is very important when it comes to this product, and and I I love noses. Like I as an artist, I love noses. I think they're one of the most interesting things you can have on your person that are so uniquely yours. And and so it's funny that I say that because I also feel like you know, when you speak love about something, when you speak love to something, it comes back to you. And I have said that so many times in my lifetime about noses, and I know I know a lot of um like portrait artists feel the same way. I'm not I'm not unique in that experience because the more you draw people and the more you have to draw the same thing, you're just like I want the individuality, I want, I want to draw something that I haven't drawn before, and I want to look at lines that I'm that are new to trace, you know. And anyway, so I asked for a sign and I tried to detach from that, you know, and was still going on with the with the project and you know, learning all about the go-to market and learning about what was kind of required as far as creative direction and where we were, and then you know, I think like two days had passed, and I was like, man, maybe I'm not gonna get a sign. Maybe this isn't, you know, like maybe maybe that's the sign that there's no sign, and you kind of trust you to trust your yourself here. And like five minutes later, I pulled up Instagram, and there was this someone liked a comment that I made 77 weeks ago. And the comment was on someone's post who was an artist, and I had said, the nose is brilliant, and someone liked it, like, you know, a couple nights ago. I made this comment 77 weeks ago, and someone was like, I like this, and and it was the sign, like that was confirmation that I was um where I'm supposed to be, like this is this feels right, you know, and it just made me so happy. And you know, this was a couple, this was like a week before we left for Miami, and when I was in Miami, you know, I'm we're trying to think of sexy product displays for a nightlife scene that we're trying to get this product out to, and I'm making art. Like we get there, and I'm immediately like, well, let's go, it's go time, and I'm like sculpting, I'm sculpting these noses, and it's and they're like really good looking, and I am just enjoying it, and I'm like, dude, I'm so called to make things with my hands. And we wanted them to have this like marbled kind of effect as if they'd been, you know, chiseled, and it was sort of like Greek, Greek sculpture, and uh very modern too, because it put like nose rings in them, and and it was just and it was a bit of humor, and it was also you know, it was just it was me saluting Miami and me trying to bring this artful display into you know modern day like commerce, and and with the short turnaround, like I was I was proud of it. Um, given more time, I think we will have a lot more time to do like three-day printing and do some really cool shit when it when it comes to being in stores or going to fucking festivals and pushing, you know, really showing the the product and and how fun you can have with the brand and with but I was just so proud to have the opportunity to make something and to not be like questioned in the making and to do it in this you know 47th floor, looking out over Miami, just getting flooded with daylight and and yeah, making art with my hands and in the daylight with good music and and the the balcony door wide open and just the sea and in cruise ships and yachts and and it was delightful and I felt so happy to just be making something and to not be overwhelmed with like would it be done on time? Like I knew that it would be done on time, and I you know I didn't get lost to how can I do this better, because like however it was gonna be done was gonna be good enough because I already saw it in my mind's eye, and I've played this game before, and it was just I felt so grateful. I felt grateful for Miami, I felt grateful for people that are so innately foreign to me in the way that they interact with the world, and yet some part of me is like delighted in interacting with them because it shows me a part of myself that I'm not very comfortable with, like a part of me that wants to be able to not really care what you think, but also to assume that you think that I'm amazing. There's a lot of I'm great in Miami, and something about that is deeply necessary. Like if you do maybe not have the best sense of of not sense of self, I don't know that you would find that in Miami, but self-esteem. If you don't have the best self-esteem, I would say spend some time in Miami because you're gonna be in the collective mindset that says you're the shit, and you better act like it, because like you don't belong here if you don't think you are, and that is something to to eat up, eat up by the spoonful, because you're gonna need it. You're gonna need a great big serving of I am of I am. I am the shit. I am beautiful, I am glorious, I am rich, I am rich, I am rich. And you are so, so rich.