Ep. 21: Quantum Possibility w/Mario Radinger

A cold DM turns into a rare, generous exchange about how we actually hear ourselves. Mo sits down, virtually, across time and space, with a quantum hypnotist, Author, and Akashic Reader Mario Radinger, whose “higher self” sessions reveal something both simple and hard to practice: when trust and safety are present, letting go can be easy. He shares how Dolores Cannon’s work lit the fuse, why most clients come seeking purpose, and what it takes to build a space where answers arise from within rather than being handed down from above.

Mo and Mario explore the difference between intuition and a wired-up nervous system, and how the body marks each with a distinct signature. There’s honesty about resistance—performing, pleasing, doubting—and why the session window is spacious by design, giving time for edges to soften. Purpose shows up as remembering, not hunting, and the higher self leads by elevating perspective instead of prescribing fixes. That makes the insight stick. They also step into forgiveness, where a photo becomes a doorway and time finishes the work talk can’t force. Acceptance and compassion come through as powerful energetic correctives: when you stop arguing with reality, much of the pain loses its job.

Beyond trance, they talk Akashic readings as a peaceful route for those who hesitate to enter altered states, and the move from solo practice to teaching so more people can access this work. Along the way, ego takes its rightful seat—useful in life, quiet in session—and the craft matures through surprise after surprise until prediction gives way to presence. If you’ve wondered how to hear your higher self, how to separate signal from static, or how to hold purpose without pressure, this conversation offers language, tools, and a felt sense you can take with you.

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Transcript

Discovering Quantum Hypnosis And Dolores Cannon

SPEAKER_00 0:10

You just never know who's gonna answer your DM when you send it out of the blue, and that person has never met you and has no responsibility or obligation or put possibly inclination to get back to you. And yet you feel deeply that you want to reach out, and that is what I did. And I'm so happy and lucky and excited that that Mario is here to have this interview with me. Um although respectfully, let's call it a conversation, because I think that's really what it became. I, you know, I wanted to have a fluid interaction with someone whose work I came across on Instagram uh, you know, probably three or four months ago now. And, you know, I'm just watching his following grow bigger and bigger and bigger. And as a quantum hypnotist, I find his work to be really inspiring and engaging in ways that are one, unique for social media and two so deeply fascinating because the way in which he interacts with his clients when they're undergoing this quantum hypnotism is so thoughtful. And that, you know, some of the they're called the higher self-tapes, some of the videos that he shows of the sessions, and you know, you'll find that his clients are pretty vulnerable in that state, and yet even the the voice that they're using to answer these questions seems to be coming from such a deep guttural type of place, and it's I'm it's mesmerizing to me. And I choose that word with intention. Um, just like just like I reached out to Tomario, and I'm so happy that he obliged and accepted the invitation, and that we had a pretty long conversation. I found him to be absolutely delightful, and I enjoy that we talked about quite a few things, but purpose I think is such a a big part of what comes into play, I think, with his clientele. And that's something that you know he he explains during this this conversation, and and how we all could use a little dose of that calling from someone that is intending our highest good, which is our highest self. And Mario is an author, he is a quantum hypnotist, he is uh has an absolutely impressive amount of certifications in order to help guide you through greater conversations with yourself and that great calling that exists for you, and he's also an Akashic reader, and so there are some psychic abilities afoot, and it's just I'm not gonna say anymore, I'm just gonna get right to it. Here's our conversation. So quantum hypnosis, right? Yeah, I when I stumbled upon you, it was during one of your recordings for the higher self-tapes, and it was immediately very mesmerizing to me, you know. The first of all, the format in which you decide to like put what you do out in the world, I think is very authentic and it's a little unnerving in an inspiring way, I think, you know, because it shows people very vulnerable during during the session, and yet what they're saying is like in a juxtaposition to how they're looking because it's so blunt. So it's a very interesting recording. But I you know, I kept coming across to you on my on my scrolls, and then I just felt very compelled to to reach out, and so I'm so happy that you were compelled to say yes.

SPEAKER_04 4:18

Well, I love knowing that. Thank you so much. It's exactly what this content is meant to do, you know, resonate with people, touch those who are meant to receive it. And yeah, I'm glad that you that you're enjoying it.

SPEAKER_00 4:36

How how were you touched by this? How did you fall into this field and really listen to this calling?

SPEAKER_04 4:44

Well, I guess you could say by um coincidence, but um if you don't believe in coincidences, it was I guess meant to be. Um I my best friend at the time, well, still my best friend, but at the time, like 15 years ago, we were um um going on this ride, you know, embarking on our spiritual awakening together, I guess you could say. We were um having these super deep conversations about philosophy, religion, maybe even a bit metaphysical at the time. And at some point he just one day he sent me this video of this elderly lady, Dolores Cannon. Um I had not heard about her. Um, but when I when I clicked on the link, I listened to the video, I knew immediately, oh my god, what she's talking about. I have to do this, I have to learn how to do this because she is a pioneer of quantum hypnosis. I don't know if you've ever heard of her, but she's okay, great. Then then you know what she looks like and like the vibe she's giving off. It's quite remarkable. And um yeah, my I had fullball yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:09

What would you say the vibe is?

SPEAKER_04 6:11

What's the well she looks about her? She looks like a full-on grandma. Granny vibes, totally like the things she she's talking about, you would never expect them to come out of her mouth. But she's just such a a wonderful explorer and researcher, and unfortunately she's not with us anymore, but for the time that she has been, she has done amazing work.

SPEAKER_00 6:55

Do you have um a mentor pretty early on?

SPEAKER_04 7:03

I mean, in a way her, because there was content out about her books for sure. Her books were a big influence on me. I did the the training, of course, so that was in a way interacting with her, but not really a proper mentor. My best friend and I, like Kai, my my best friend, we kind of helped each other.

SPEAKER_03 7:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 7:36

Advance, I guess you could say, or grow, or learn, or whatever.

SPEAKER_00 7:42

Is your friend also in the practice as he pursued it, or is it something that he's put into his own like tool set and uses in other ways?

SPEAKER_04 7:51

He studied it as well. He started out with me at the same time, but he did not pursue it. And I think that in a way he was never meant to. And that's totally okay. Like he has other interests and he doesn't miss doing that. But it was great being able to start out together with someone. You know, we could practice on each other, and that was great.

Vulnerability, Trust, And Depth In Sessions

SPEAKER_00 8:24

Is that is that vulnerable? Since we're talking about good friends and best friends, one one of my best friends has just started her her hypnosis journey, I would say. Um, she I think I think she's very called to it, and she's gonna be a natural in whatever way I suppose you could be deeply feeling. But I I know that in the beginning, I think when it comes to doing anything new, and when we're sort of relying on the people around us to help us like practice, like that's a very vulnerable thing for a lot of people. And I think for her, she was like, I'm not, I'm not ready to do this on you, actually. She's like, maybe further down the road. So that's really I think that's very compassionate and like daring, I think, to to do that with with your friend and to be able to. I mean, were there hangups? Were there moments where it was hard to take each other seriously? Or was it always just fluid?

SPEAKER_04 9:21

I mean, we laugh a lot when we're together. So there were definitely moments where um we needed to take a break. But you're right. You are very vulnerable when you are in this position. You are opening up in a way. And but you decide how deep you want to go. Luckily, that person, he knows everything about me. You know, we are like open books to each other. So it was not really difficult to do that with him.

SPEAKER_00 10:00

How does one decide how how deep they go? Is I mean, is it a subconscious or is there kind of an awareness of like levels that you're getting to?

SPEAKER_04 10:15

Well, there are different levels. For sure. You have your conscious awareness, right? Your everyday rational mind, I guess you could say. You have your subconscious, and this is tricky territory already because uh a lot about yourself is stored, archived in your subconscious, so to speak. And most people, I guess, would not want someone else to know about that. You know, there's secrets in there, beliefs that you may not want to share with others, emotions that you've never expressed, you know, to the outside world. But the people who work with me, they're usually up for it because they usually find themselves at a point of their journey where they are really tired of issues, problems, challenges. And so they have tried a lot, usually, and taking that step of even choosing, you know, to have an experience like a quantum human association, it it means something. So those people they're they're usually ready to do all of that. And ideally, they trust me, you know, as their practitioner, their facilitator. And so when when that trust, that openness is there, then it can be a magical, a magic breaking up a tiny bit.

SPEAKER_00 12:03

Oh, let me show my connection is good.

SPEAKER_04 12:06

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 12:07

Am I good on your side?

SPEAKER_04 12:08

Am I there have been like really small distortions, but nothing, nothing.

SPEAKER_00 12:16

Oh, I I'm going to call them distortions from now on. One moment, Mario.

SPEAKER_04 12:23

Of course.

SPEAKER_00 12:28

Okay. Did it did it work in my and we continued? Perfect. That was that was far more seamless than I anticipated. Yeah, half more expectations and life will deliver, I think.

SPEAKER_04 12:43

Right.

Letting Go, Resistance, And Performance

SPEAKER_00 12:44

So you said quite a few things, but I'm I'm super curious when just to to branch out of the conversation for a moment so I can branch back into it. With my with my podcast, one of the things that's very important to me is is just really being able to have super genuine conversations with people that I honestly think, you know, that I would be friends with and really inspired by what they do or very curious about what they do. And in a lot of ways, I think I'm a great life experimenter. So I do a lot of stuff. And the way that I process doing it, I think is helpful for people. And I don't really know what that means, only just feedback that I've received in my my time on this earth. And so I'm so curious for myself and maybe anybody else who is like me. When it comes to, I've done, I've done some hypnosis, I've, you know, I've had a couple of hypnotists in my my own journey. And one of the things that I've found is that it's very hard for me to let go, I think, of the identity that I am I'm holding on to. And so, and I don't know if that's like a trust thing or just not the right time and place, but I I found myself in, you know, wanting being so open to the process. And yet when I'm there and being asked certain questions, it feels as though I'm performing. Like there's there's a performance happening. And I and I've had people push back against that too to say that it's not, you know, don't question whatever's coming up. Like let just say the thing, but it feels like I can see the lens of myself. You know, and maybe that's maybe that's people pleasing, maybe that's a lot of things. I don't know. But how do you do you come across that a lot where where there's resistance?

SPEAKER_04 14:39

Yes, for sure. Because it's only human. You know, everything you just described, it's it's perfectly normal for a human being to feel that way and find themselves thinking that way and and acting that way. It's part of my job, you know, to make it as easy as possible for the person I work with to do just that, you know, to let go.

SPEAKER_02 15:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 15:07

And to just allow information to arise and to trust that. Because in in many cases, the people I get to work with, they are already so close to their higher wisdom, you know, their higher self. They're very skilled, very tuned in, and the only thing standing between them and that access is just their mind, you know, their uh their doubt, fear, stuff like that, you know, pleasing, everything you just mentioned. And so I sp usually I spend quite some time with my clients. The sessions I facilitate, there they go for several hours, and part of that time serves breaking down those barriers. Um breaking down. I mean, it's like a harsh word in a way, but but we do it gently, you know? And ideally when we start.

SPEAKER_03 16:22

Well, you are beating them down, so that's good.

SPEAKER_04 16:27

No. Actually, you know, to be quite honest, I'm not doing a lot actively. The the work that I do is is quite um it's mature work for the person undergoing it. It's it's quite advanced. Like you have to be able to take responsibility for your own experience, for your own path, for your own growth. And it's very important that you are at that point when you work with me, basically. And those who book who book with me, they go through a process that kind of makes sure that you are at that point on the day we connect. And if there's if they're not there yet, then I use the time available to us to do that. You know, a lot of a lot of my clients are surprised by how easy it is once you understand what it's about. Like letting go, trusting can be so easy. So easy once that once it clicks, you know, once you understand. Ah, okay.

SPEAKER_00 17:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 17:50

Right.

SPEAKER_00 17:51

Gosh, when you said that, I felt that viscerally. When you said letting go can be so easy. And I think it's so hard for so many people, but because you're not in the environment or with the right person in order to to do that. Like it's not it's not all you. It is it is a relationship. And so yeah, I can I can understand. If you talk like that with your clients, I can definitely understand being able to trust the process and and to be present and and open and to be unbuilt. Yeah. Unbuild my mind, please.

SPEAKER_04 18:26

Yes. Yes, for sure. It's essential, you know, to be able to do that. And the beautiful thing is once you do that in your session, you kind of learn how to do it for the rest of your life. So you you build up a skill that you're able to benefit from from that day on.

SPEAKER_00 18:49

Do you mean like not getting in your own way? Like you're more aware of when you're using your your mind mechanisms in ways that aren't serving you? Or so and you facilitate being able to connect with one's higher self. Do you when you have your sessions, do people come back quite often?

SPEAKER_04 19:16

Is it is it something that they'll return to, or is it kind of I don't want to say one off because that doesn't sound like a attractive term, but but it's a fitting term because I ideally I only work with my clients once.

SPEAKER_03 19:35

Ooh, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 19:37

Um because ideally their main questions have all been answered and they've received what they were looking for, and also because they now know how to connect, what it feels like. And they can do it by themselves. You know, I always say that my job is done when my work is not needed anymore. And it's basically that.

SPEAKER_00 20:09

How do people say that they can feel what it's like to connect? Like are there certain words that come up afterwards or some sort of like consistency between sessions where you hear your clients kind of talk about what that feeling is like Yes and no.

SPEAKER_04 20:27

There are definit definitely words or expressions that are used regularly when they try to describe what it felt like. However, there are different groups, you know, um groups of human beings regarding their connection. To some, it it feels like they're actually given information, that there is a voice in them or right next to them, around them, that is actually providing information and they listen to it, like listening to a lecture, you know, or a seminar. Others for others it's more like tuning into a frequency that feels very much like themselves in a way, but they have an an elevated, expanded perception and perspective on their life, and they're able to answer their own questions, just like that. So it varies. Others just have this intuitive clarity, like immediate clarity, you know, claircognizance, you could call it. A lot of people I work with actually discover in their sessions that they are either claircognizant or Clair sentient because they can just feel the truth or they just know it, or they see concepts, you know, that transport information. So human beings are uh they're all unique, and so are their their ways of connecting with the higher self.

SPEAKER_00 22:23

When it comes to this voice that's like maybe outside of them, is it always is there sometimes resistance to that voice because there's like a disagreement, I think, with with how they believe their life is supposed to be going, and so the outside voice is not being like listened to in their everyday life because of that resistance?

SPEAKER_04 22:52

I'd say it's rather that this voice is quite subtle, and it's very easy to ignore it or override it with your mental noise, and so you need to learn how to become still if you want to be able to perceive the voice, and this is where it stops for most people because there are a lot of us who don't make room for stillness in their everyday life, and so how are you supposed to be able to perceive your subtle inner voice if you constantly bombard it with outside noise?

SPEAKER_00 23:40

Does stillness look different to different people?

SPEAKER_04 23:46

Yeah. Yeah. There's a common thread, I would say, and it's actually the stillness, like the quiet element. However, I would say it's more like an internal stillness than an external one. Like you can sit in in a room where super loud music is playing, and you can still be quiet in your inner world. So yes and no. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:17

Is that sometimes like let's say a client came to you and you were kind of vetting them to see where they were, if they were ready for your help, really. Would that be sort of an indicator about how noisy it is up top of whether or not they were ready? You know, is that kind of part of where you come in, I think, with your your questions and beginning to see if your client fits with you? Like if there was just too much chatter, if they maybe needed more, I don't know, meditation or or another path before they got to you.

Purpose, Health, And Life Lessons Clients Seek

SPEAKER_04 24:52

Not necessarily. I've worked with a lot of clients over the years who have not had a regular meditation practice, for example, prior to their session. And they were able to beautifully tune into their higher self. And that is because in these sessions, we create the ideal setting to do that. So even if you have not learned how to do that prior, chances are very high that you'll be able to do it in the session because we focus a lot of intention, a lot of energy, a lot of um frequency towards this goal in a way. So it's very powerful. And you know, if you've been using if you've been doing that for a while, you also you kind of understand how to do that, and you it it becomes easier over time. That's what I'm trying to say. And so you sense a lot about your clients, you you learn how to trust your own inner voice. So you get a lot of information as well about how to about what to do and what to say next. And I don't doubt that voice at all anymore. I fully trust it, and though it usually creates a beautiful collab, you know.

SPEAKER_00 26:26

How long do you feel like it took to really trust that voice? Or was that kind of an immediate benefit for you in your journey?

SPEAKER_04 26:38

I wish it was immediate, but no. It took, oh my god, it took, I would say, a couple of years, for sure. Like a lot of practitioners, you know, like my colleagues, we share this realization that there's like this magic point, this magic marker. Like you need to do approximately a hundred sessions, facilitate a hundred sessions before you you're really in the flow and you kind of trust what you're doing. I don't know, may it's it may be psychologically, you know, that number, a hundred, it could mean something. But interestingly, a lot of my colleagues and I, we share this kind of realization. So there must be something to it.

SPEAKER_00 27:35

I feel like it's such an important part of learning. I mean, I would say when you're learning something new, the hardest part is not knowing how long it will take until you're like you have some sort of autonomy or like you know, you feel as though you can be yourself in your practice versus like looking around to see how you're doing what you're doing. And I think numbers are so helpful in that way. And a lot of ways I think numbers are very damaging, but when it comes to how many repetitions you need to do, like it's one of the most freeing things to see the tally marks for for where you are. So I would personally love a tally a hundred sessions of some of my learnings right now. That would really that would set me free, I think, in a lot of ways.

SPEAKER_04 28:24

Yes, I totally agree. Numbers serve a wonderful purpose, and that's assuring your mind, right? About I've done this so and so often, I kind of know what I'm doing now. We're good. We're good. And that that's a wonderful feeling because then, like you said, you don't look to the outside anymore for validation and confirmation. You kind of you're able to to sit in in yourself and with yourself and and know that you're able to do this because you've done it a lot of times.

SPEAKER_00 29:06

Are you when when you were talking about where some of the voice comes for for some of the sessions? So sometimes it's beside as if someone is talking, you know, to them and they're sort of like repeating and and listening, and then one is more from themselves, and then it can be a little more intuitive.

SPEAKER_04 29:28

I'm still here. I'm still here.

SPEAKER_03 29:30

It's just this is a nice little graphic. Just a little intermission.

SPEAKER_04 29:37

I'm sure it will come back at any point.

SPEAKER_00 29:41

Well, sure it'll come back at any moment. I'll just keep talking. Perfect.

SPEAKER_04 29:45

Here we are.

SPEAKER_00 29:46

Magic. We're in a portal. So when it comes to, I guess, clients having these different sources of information and it comes to you and your own intuition. When you meet somebody now, are there indicators or cues for you where you can kind of gauge where that voice is coming from for them? Like, is that something that because you said they're like different groups of people, is that something that you can kind of tell more and more before even going into a hypnosis?

SPEAKER_04 30:22

Interestingly, no.

SPEAKER_00 30:25

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 30:25

There were there was a time when I thought I could do that, but then I was surprised so often, so many times, that I've kind of I've let that go.

SPEAKER_03 30:37

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 30:38

There were a lot of sessions where I thought I knew what it would be like and how it would go and how it would be for the person. But I learned very quickly then it's it's hard, if not impossible, to predict. A lot of my clients have quite surprised me, and that's that's okay. You know?

SPEAKER_00 31:07

Is that humbling? Is it humbling or like inspiring or just like keeps you hungry, I guess?

Hearing The Higher Self And Finding Stillness

SPEAKER_04 31:16

It's liberating. Who I would say, because it's one less thought that you have to occupy yourself with, right? You just trust the flow and whatever arises, whatever happens, is right and appropriate. You're not trying to evaluate it anymore.

SPEAKER_00 31:42

So you really become far more of a guide in those moments than giving more meaning than you should have to.

SPEAKER_04 31:54

Yes. Yes, in a way. Because when I started out, I I was really big on evaluating the sessions I was facilitating, which is, I guess, natural in a way, you know. But at some point you understand that it's not about what you consider a good session or a successful session or you know, a triumph. It's what the person needs at that moment. And when you work with higher selves, the person will always receive what they need at that moment in time. And it took me some time to really understand that. And now I'm so much more relaxed in a way, you know, about what happens because that opens up such a vast spectrum of possibilities. I realized at some point that in the past I was quite narrow. I thought, oh, it has to go like this. It has to happen like this. And now it's like this magical box of anything can happen. And that really elevated the quality as well, in a way, you know, of the work.

SPEAKER_00 33:14

That reminds me of play a little bit, to be able to enjoy what you're doing at whatever level. And you know, sounds like you're quite good at what you do, but to also enjoy the process that you've like chosen to do. Like to be able, I think, to enjoy yourself in your practice is not something that a lot of people ever get to experience, I think. Even if they're at a level in which they could maybe enjoy it, they like won't allow themselves because there's like a level of umbe just holding yourself to too high of a regard.

SPEAKER_04 33:52

Ego is definitely a fact factor here. And also pressure, you know. If you feel pressured to make money with what you do, for example, that can be quite you know, quite daunting because you then put pressure on on what you do and the quality of what you do, and you easily forget to enjoy what you're doing. So I guess I was fortunate in a way when I started out with with this work, I was still having another job. So I it was more like a hobby at first, and I was able to do this work without pressure, and then it it built up, and slowly but steadily I was able to let my old job go and increase the hypnosis work. So it kind of naturally, organically, you know, went that way. And I had the opportunity to to enjoy it.

SPEAKER_00 35:05

How often does I guess the concept of a money block come up when when clients come to you? If if is money often something that they're concerned with, or is it more um you know, there's the a thousand other categories I guess a person a person could put themselves in. But is money something that comes up often, or is it usually a distraction from something else?

SPEAKER_04 35:35

It's not top top five. It's not a top five issue, but I would say a top ten issue.

SPEAKER_00 35:44

Okay, numbers, very helpful. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 35:47

Yeah, financials, financial issue, financial issue issues are they are on my clients list every now and then, for sure. But not the most common or most popular one.

SPEAKER_00 36:05

What is the most common popular one?

SPEAKER_04 36:08

Purpose. The big P, you know. Uh that's for sure. Number one. What's my purpose in this life? What did I come to do or to be, to offer to the world? And then it's usually followed by health, health issues, lessons as well, life lessons, relationships, relationships for sure. And um what else? Yeah, family. Okay, but that's part of relationship as well.

SPEAKER_00 36:53

But I I like that they're sort of separate too, because yeah, I think sometimes when it comes to family, it could be so specific. You know, specific types of interactions and people, but yeah, I guess relationships could be a bit more broad or you know, certainly outside of of the family. But that's so I I mean you don't have to name all 10, but I I love that finances isn't in the top five because I don't feel that it should be, but that's pretty magical, I think, to help people find their purpose. I mean, I don't I can't I can't imagine many things that are more important, I think, to be able to to help someone on their path and like remember. Do you think a big part of it is helping someone remember who they are? Or is like part of the journey to help them find it? Like they it's not a remembering. Is that a question? I'll let you I'll let you answer if you think it's a question.

Ego, Service, And Enjoying The Craft

SPEAKER_04 38:01

I think it's a great question, and it's probably the most important question to ask in a way, in general, because it is in fact about remembering. You know, of course you can you could phrase it differently and say find your purpose, but before you came into this human life, you knew exactly what your purpose was. So I think remembering is quite a fitting term to use here. And it also is an empowering one because it implies that there's something that's already there and you're just reconnecting to it. You know, it's yours to claim already.

SPEAKER_00 38:46

So I like the term I'm curious about what the process is like for you when you're asking questions and and and someone is in a state of hypnosis. Is it similar to you like having this conversation, or is there other parts of your your mind that are really being stimulated by this? Like, like I guess when uh I imagine this process, I see it as like a bit of a puzzle that you're not in a rush to unpuzzle, but you're like seeing the pieces. Is it what okay? Is there any yeah, what's it like for you?

SPEAKER_04 39:31

You have such great ways of of describing this, you know, really hitting it on the nail. It's exactly what it feels like.

SPEAKER_03 39:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 39:42

It's it's like a puzzle that you're piecing together. And the the beauty of of working with the higher self is that in the end, it's always a beautiful puzzle. And they are so brilliant in leading you through this riddle, you know, this challenge, and connect connecting the dots and connecting issues with each other. It's in the end, I'm always amazed. I'm still amazed after all these years how how smart they are. You know, in what they're doing. Because there are certain rules that they have to follow as well. They can't just solve all your problems for you. They can't just give you all the answers, but they know exactly what to give you so you can find the answers yourself and you can actually get there, you know. Like they're not throwing it all down to you, they help you rise up to them, and so it's a much much more sustainable way of helping than just feeding you everything, you know, into your mouth.

SPEAKER_00 41:08

That sounds like a healthy relationship. Does that yeah? Is that I mean, is when it comes to I guess relationships in in your own life, would would you say that it's kind of similar that someone is trying to like meet you halfway, you know? Because I guess that's such an indicator of someone caring and wanting to connect. Sometimes I ask questions and then I ask questions as I'm asking the question, so thank you for not jumping on me about that. I just sometimes try to figure out what I'm trying to ask, and it takes me a second to to get there. But I'm curious if is there pushback, I guess, sometimes when you're when you're with your clients and it feels like you're trying to get somewhere, but that's not really where you're going. Does that ever happen? Like, do you get in your own way? Does your ego get in the way ever during the process?

SPEAKER_04 42:14

I'd say that the chances are rather small that that happens. It definitely did in the beginning, but you know, it's an interesting question to ask. I've not thought about this, but it I almost feel like my ego is very, very, very quiet and in the background when I facilitate sessions because it's not the time and place for it. You know, there are so many other situations in life where my ego can do wonderful work and help me a lot, but in the sessions, not that much. It's not its specialty, it's not its terrain. So no, I don't think so. And especially when we're on the journey, you know, when the client is in an altered state of awareness and I am too because I I alter my state as well. It's it's a different realm, and the ego is not really part of it, I would say. It's especially because I know that all I do is for the other person. You know, the time that we're working together, that the other person has paid their their money for as well. You know, it's I I respect that so much. I appreciate it so much that in the time that we're working together, everything is for the other person. So that probably makes it hard for my ego, you know, to stick. Anywhere in there.

Creative Callings And Soul Specialties

SPEAKER_00 44:03

Is that because of service, you think? Is that kind of a great action to put your ego aside is to act in service?

SPEAKER_04 44:15

In this context, yes. You can also give someone else like your ego in a super hard way and also serve them. You know, it depends. But in this context of the quantum hypnosis, I would say it would not be helpful. No.

SPEAKER_00 44:38

I'm curious outside of the of the context, because I love the that you use the word specialty for the ego. Like this is not the ego's specialty. Where what is a what's a place for you that you find is is a place for your ego that that the specialty both like you know delights and serves you?

SPEAKER_04 45:02

Hmm. If you want to answer relationships, for sure. That is still like my training ground for that, you know. Because knowing all of that about your psyche, your ego, the different compartments of your mind is one thing, but then putting it into action in your in your everyday life is another. I'm learning the lessons of my ego hard, like every day. On some days more than others, I guess, but um yeah, relationships, family, you know, friendship, friendships, even. I think those are the perfect arenas for ego work, ego integration.

SPEAKER_00 45:57

Are there are there any lessons you think are right? Are you learning any lessons right now that that seem to repeat themselves or like pattern in your life that I mean I like to ask these questions, you certainly don't have to answer them, but I'm just so deeply I'm so in love with hearing about the things that come up for people and the the patterns that show themselves and you know whether it has to do with our profession or just our everyday life, there's all of these little cues, I think, and little indicators that like you know this thing is still happening, and this is another version of that thing. And and do you I mean, is that too broad of a question? Do you feel like you have a lesson right now that you could share?

SPEAKER_04 46:51

Ooh, there are many. Trust is definitely still on the table. You know, even though I think I'm able to say that in in my work context, I'm further than I am, you know, in other arenas. I would say that when it comes to my my personal life, that trust is still still one it wants to be mastered still. That's one, you know, trusting that everything's gonna be okay, letting go of control, stuff like that, which is can be hard, you know. I'm I'm like a one-person company. At this at this point, I'm doing everything myself. So trying to control everything is kind of it's baked into me, you know.

SPEAKER_03 47:59

Yes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 48:01

Learning how to delegate and maybe even let stuff let it be parked there for a while. This is like what I'm those are my challenges for sure right now.

SPEAKER_00 48:14

Uh I deeply connect with that, especially on well, especially on the front of I think entrepreneurship is kind of a gross word at this point, but it's nonetheless true when it comes to doing all of the things on your own. There is this level of craftsmanship that has to come into play almost immediately because you care about what you're doing. And so it's one more level of self-critique or I think exhaustion. And like with every little facet of your business that you're doing on your own, it is just creating, you know, more ways to be the best version of yourself. And there are, there are, I mean, for myself, I would say trust is a huge one right now because sometimes I have to trust that it's okay that I didn't do as good as I know that I can do, I guess. Like there are there are levels of like your best sometimes isn't good enough, and you have to allow that to to let that go. And then sometimes it doesn't, it just isn't, this isn't the place for the best. It's okay. Like, use that energy. That's another lesson, I think, for me is to really use my energy where it's gonna be the best served and also the best served for me. Tend to I tend to to put it in places where I think um it's gonna pay off. And it's like, no, it would have paid off if you'd just given it back to yourself, actually. So so I always enjoy listening to other people in their pursuit of of business. I talk about all of those pieces because it's so demanding. And I think it's so interesting when it comes to like how our clients teach us lessons too, like how you can so, you know, you see yourself through your clients too, because they're having this experience. And at least for me, you know, I I outside of wanting deeply to connect with people, I I do a lot of illustration and storytelling and brand design. And sometimes someone brings this idea to you and you, you know, you you have all these great ideas to do it. And at the end of the day, it's not really about what you want, it's really about like making them happy. And there's always I don't know, that's a place where my ego will come into play again and again. Am I making this person happy or I'm am I even the right person to make this person happy? And am I gonna be happy when I make this person happy? And then it's a funnel, a funnel of demise.

Following The Nudge: Podcast And Intuition

SPEAKER_04 50:58

I think that makes so much sense, you know, what you're saying. It's exactly how it is, especially when you're doing creative work, you know, like you. I I could imagine that it's even stronger, this element of like you're giving something of yourself, you know, into this work. And so it it becomes complex in that moment.

SPEAKER_00 51:21

It does become complex. Is there do you do you subscribe to the idea that everyone is an artist and that that there is a limitless potential of creation inside of everybody? Or is that not true?

SPEAKER_04 51:48

I would say yes and no again, because as human beings we are creative beings. You know, every human being is a creator, and so there's a constant flow of doing, of building, of combining, connecting. But I know through my work that souls have different I'm sorry, I it seems that my camera is frozen.

SPEAKER_00 52:29

That's okay. It's a good freeze frame, I think. It's a it's a solid one. Good jawline. Yeah. You're the the audio is perfect though.

SPEAKER_04 52:39

So Okay.

SPEAKER_00 52:42

But we could always restart if you don't want to look at your freeze frame.

SPEAKER_04 52:46

Oh, I'm good.

SPEAKER_00 52:48

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 52:48

But let me know if it if it works for you, okay? For for your recording. So, in a way, yes, everyone has creative potential. However, through my work I've learned that souls have different specialties as well and different foci. And so there are creative souls, there are artistic souls who specialize in that, while there are others who have other fields of interest. So in a way, yes, in another way, no. Not everyone has the same has chosen the same focus or access when it comes to create artistic work.

SPEAKER_00 53:40

What would be some of the other genres, I suppose, of a chosen path.

SPEAKER_04 53:48

Well, there are communicator souls, for example, and that's their specialty. There are nurturer, there are harmonizers, there are healers, there are revealers, you know, weavers. There are all these different types of souls that I've encountered in my work. And they all have different interests and different skills that they bring to the table. And I think that makes life so exciting and interesting and colorful and beautiful.

SPEAKER_00 54:29

What would I even see as I ask these questions that they're very earthly? But it's when it comes to being someone who's maybe like a harmonizer, what would what would some of their like life vocations be? I mean, is there any is there any consistency there?

SPEAKER_04 54:51

Or it's just, you know, you could be any could have any type of soul and find purpose in any type of work, given that that can have space to breathe and be I would like to start by saying that those qualities, those soul qualities, they can be expressed in an infinite amount of ways. So you don't need to choose a profession that allows you to do this in a professional way, you know? You can be a harmonizer for that, let's stick with that example, as someone in your family or in your community, or in a hobby, a passion. But if a harmonizer soul has not been conditioned too much by the outside world against their intuitive interests, then they would naturally find themselves in an arena that allows them to apply this skill in a greater way. So usually they find roles in the professional world that allow them to do that, you know? And a harmonizer would usually try to find balance, create balance out of imbalance. So mediators, energy healers as well.

Body Wisdom, Nervous System, And Discernment

SPEAKER_00 56:38

Okay, so this is a moment in the interview where our the technology kept being weird, and it's interesting because Mario was calling, he said that this happens a lot when he's doing video work, like uh, you know, like a video meeting, and that distortions can happen and that it might be at the frequency with what he does. And I just felt it necessary to say that right here because, you know, there's a lot of good stuff he just said where I cut this off, but I got distracted with technology, and so I didn't get to dive any deeper into that last conversation. So, about your your podcast, you listened to the cue that said that this was gonna become something for you, and to allow what was gonna be book research um to still become a book, but also to be pushed towards making a podcast. And so at that time you were pretty well versed on listening to to your higher self and and and to allow something. And you said that you could have not listened. And have you found in moments where you choose choice and and don't listen to the calling, is it problematic or just something else arrive?

SPEAKER_04 57:58

It usually is problematic. For sure. Like there are so many situations where in hindsight I can clearly see if I had just followed my intuition, this would have turned out better, you know. But apparently I needed I needed the challenge and the struggle and you know, all to guide you to a point where you're actually like trusting that voice. And you know, okay, next time I know what to do.

SPEAKER_00 58:30

Yeah. I let I really enjoy listening to you talk because there'll be moments where you have a I mean, the whole thing, but there's there's there's visceral feelings for me where you get to the end of a sentence or something where like my whole body is like, yeah, that's what it is, you know? And so it's very, it's very exciting to to hear that. Well sorry.

SPEAKER_04 58:54

Thank you so much. And I love that you that you just said that because that is what it's all about. I've learned through through my work that your intuition, it will speak through your body. Intuitive wisdom will always be accompanied by a feel, you know, a physical feel, like a visceral sensation. And that can be various, uh happen in various ways. You know, it's not the same for everyone. But your your physical layer will somehow be a part of it. So if you learn how to decipher that, and just in this conversation, you know, you've already mentioned two or three times that you had this reaction. So I would say that whatever was connected to that response in your system, it had some value for you. And your higher self wants you in some way to um integrate it, you know, or um or underline it for yourself, you know. And I have the same. Like when I talk to people, it happens all the time. And in for the other person, it may not be anything important, you know, or profound what they say, but for where I am on my path, for the lessons that I'm learning right now, it may be exactly what I needed to hear. So this is where training comes in, you know, awareness and training. And very soon you will you will notice immediately when it happens in your body, and then you know what to do.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:39

I'm very sensitive, very sensitive person, and maybe everybody is, but I would say that I've been very tuned into my sensitivity and my lifetime. And in the last couple of years, there has been such a great, great lesson that just seems to be served again and again. And you know, my the beginning it was to stay, I think, to stay where you are, even though everything in you wants to be in motion and moving and creating and doing anything other than the one thing it is that's gonna get you to the next stage or the next the next place. And I think in in a lot of like the trials and errors of the last couple of years, I've really found my nervous system to be um what's the word at compromised? My nervous system has been very compromised. And I wonder if in in your practice, if that's something that that comes up. Because like, for example, when I there are moments where do you like human design? Is that is that something that you um put weight into human design?

SPEAKER_04 1:01:54

Uh yes, I'm familiar with it. I I've had a a reading myself, and um I consider it to be very interesting, very helpful information.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:04

I I completely agree. Um completely agree. Um with my I'm a manifesting generator, and there's a body response immediately. That's just yes and no with things. And and so when I listen to that, it's not always necessarily in like what I think my best interest is. It's just that it's yeah, it's like a lesson that needs to be learned, right? And so there are moments where, you know, we're talking about this, this feeling that will, that will come up and your body's kind of giving you the cue of like that's that's your intuition. But I guess I wonder if in your practice you've come across clients that have had other nervous system shakeups because sometimes my body has responses to things that I don't actually trust, you know, like I don't trust that I feel anxious right now. I don't actually trust that I feel like why am I so stressed about this thing when I don't want to feel that way, you know? And so you're trying to listen to this feeling and yet, and you're trying to give space to this feeling, and you're trying to heal, and you're trying to stop whatever you're doing so you can kind of sit with whatever this thing is, and yet at the same time, learning this great lesson to trust in what you feel, and it's this weird dichotomy, I think, that is like back and forth.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:26

Yeah, I think I understand what you're saying. What you just described, you know, this discrepancy between what your nervous system is doing or initiating, and you saying this is not really true, you know, like it's not appropriate. I think this is it's great when that happens for a while because it means that you've become more aware. Because there was a time before that when your nervous system and your actual emotional or mental state was the same. And so now you are removed from that, and that's a great thing because it means your awareness has expanded. And so that is when you're able to recondition your nervous system from this elevated awareness, and you can talk to it and say, look, we're safe. You don't need to freak out, you know. I'm good. We are expanding, things can't always stay the same. What you know is familiar is not what I want anymore. You know? So this like communication with your nervous system can only take place because you have moved away from it in a way. So that's a great thing. And then to the other part of your question, I would say you learn how to discern over time. Again, with the help of awareness and training, you learn to differentiate between your intuition creating a feel in your body and your nervous system responding to something. It's not the same. And maybe in the beginning it will feel similar, but after a while you learn how to clearly tell them apart.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:20

Do you would that be something that a client would come to you for? Like I remember you said that you've got um, you know, some of the five major uh themes that people come for, like purpose and and relationships and family. Um healing. Healing was one of them. Was healing one of them?

SPEAKER_03 1:05:44

Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:45

And healing's probably very expansive. I mean, I imagine that's a very big category of healing.

Energy, Acceptance, And Simple Healing

SPEAKER_04 1:05:53

It is. Because it can entail physical healing, emotional. Mental, you know, in some cases even spiritual in a way or energetic. So yeah, it's a vast uh category for sure. The nervous system it's not mentioned too often. I feel that that may be the case because I think the nervous system is like a sign, you know, it's it's a tool to become aware of your inner workings. But if you go as deep as you do when you connect to your higher self and you really get to the bottom and the core of your things, then the nervous system it's not part of the conversation anymore because you're already getting to to the bottom of things. You know? The nervous system, I think it's it's a great um what's the English word? I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:05

I I can help. Just start throwing anything out there.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:11

It's it it gets you there. It gets you to this awareness. Yeah, that's a beautiful word for it. Yes. You know, a catalyst that helps you become aware of stuff. Um in sessions though, we usually we we we can bypass it and go immediately to the origin, you know, and to the explanation and to the information, the healing. So I think it's it's not often mentioned because of that, I would say. That is because if once you change the origin of an issue, you know, once you change a belief at its root, once you transform an emotion into something into another, then your nervous system doesn't need to freak out anymore.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:08

You know? Yeah that's what I'm trying to say here. So it's a tool until you don't need the tool anymore. You know?

SPEAKER_00 1:08:17

So would this be more of the maybe like um energetics or spiritual, would you say? Or I mean, and you don't have to. I don't, you know, you that might be too focused of a question, but does it maybe fall more in that category of healing? When it like it's it, do you think it's more energetics?

SPEAKER_04 1:08:41

Well, everything is energy. You know, at the the at the bottom of everything is energy. So whether it's a physical symptom, an emotional struggle, a mental blockage, it's all based in energetic distortions. And they're translated into these layers and then expressed in a specific way. But if you if you can correct the energetic distortion, then the expression on the other layer is not needed anymore.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:28

And the correction could be anything. I mean, it could just be the right word or a rerouting or or sitting. I mean, I guess the correction is anything, right? Whatever's gonna be the healing factor.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:47

The the correction can be as simple as just accepting something. You know, acceptance is a super powerful healer. A lot of energetic distortion comes from not accepting reality. And also not loving. You know, one once you're able to to open up your heart space and have compassion for others and for yourself, a lot of your problems will be solved very soon. It's it it can be quite simple actually. You know, I don't want to say that it always is, but in many cases it can be as simple as that. And it comes to usually it comes back to become to being softer. Softer meaning accepting instead of fighting against, or having compassion instead of being angry or pissed, you know. It usually when you go towards the softer end of the spectrum, that's where you find healing. In my experience.

Forgiveness, Time, And Compressed Healing

SPEAKER_00 1:11:12

I've had um some conversations about forgiveness lately, and I feel like um you know, not forgiving someone or yourself or a past situation can really deeply impact just just your connection with yourself, I think, when you are unable to to forgive. And um a little while ago, I had a really profound experience of forgiveness that, you know, I needed a little bit of help to get there. Like I came across, you know, I had come across a picture of someone who I hadn't seen in a while and thought that I'd never see again. And I was um so taken off guard by seeing this photo because I was looking through a bunch of pictures and we were laughing in this picture. And I was, it was the first time I seen this picture in a while that it hadn't brought up like a feeling of hurt or or shame or or betrayal, you know. And instead, like I just saw that it was a very validating photo of all the things that I'd ever felt in that relationship were very real. And and then it was just that reminder that was time and space that everything that I thought was just as real as when I was experiencing it, and I felt so much love and I missed this person for the first time in you know, forever. And I ended up, you know, reaching out and we connected, and now we're I would say we're pretty good friends again. And you know, that was over a year ago, but it's it's it's funny, I think, when it comes to you know, I think people ask, like, how do you forgive someone? And I think sometimes you can't for you just can't force it because it's not coming from a real place and it like it takes time, and I guess if that was reversed unto yourself and your own processes, you I can't just go into to moments and and I can keep sitting with a feeling, I suppose, you know, and I can keep sitting and I can keep accepting it. But I don't I guess it's not just saying acceptance isn't mean that I've accepted it, and just saying that I've forgiven doesn't mean that I've forgiven, and just saying that I, you know, have moved on doesn't necessarily like it, kind of happens when it happens, is that but in your sessions, would you say that those are moments where you can really remove that separation with oneself, you know? Like I wouldn't need I wouldn't need it to have come across that photo to to forgive if you know if that was if it if that was a session, perhaps, you know, would that be more of something? Hmm you'd be able to help me see those feelings without any distortions.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:06

Yes, that is actually a beautiful well, first of all, thank you for sharing that that story. I think it's a beautiful example of the power of opening your heart and and heal through that. And like you said, it's not a mental exercise. You can't think your way to forgiveness. You can you can make a big step with the help of your mind, for sure. You know, rationally you can totally support yourself in getting to a point of acceptance, but you will not really get there. You always have to go through the emotions that are there, and I think you did that beautifully from what you were describing. You know, a higher self once said to me that if you dare to sit in your emotion, no matter how ugly it is, you will eventually arrive at love. It may take some time, but it will transform eventually into love. And this is where what's hard for a lot of people, you know, they they battle so much with the mental concept around an experience, like, oh, this person, you know, disappointed me, um betrayed me, and the ego comes in, you know, and suddenly it's this like mental exercise of ah no, um, terrible, I don't want to see this person ever again. While if you if you sat in that feeling of sadness, you know, or guilt, you would eventually it would transform. Like the weather, you know. You can be caught in the rain, but eventually it will stop raining and there will come sun, the sun will come up, and it's very much the same with an emotion. And yes, you can compress this journey into a very short amount of time in a session. And so that is part of the potential of working with your higher self because they can help you transform in a way in a very short amount of time that you may need much more time for in your everyday life.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:47

Yeah. The hu the human experience part of it, I guess, is it takes as much time as it's going to take. And I guess that's why we have help along the way. Because yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:00

Exactly. I hope I I answered all of your questions. There were a couple in there.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:05

But um I think you're doing a fantastic job of answering my questions. I I I know my questions can be and going in many directions. You're um a very wonderful listener and and answerer. So thank you.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:20

Well, your question I appreciate that your questions are excellent. Like I love the way you think and um and wonder about things. It's uh it's beautiful.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:34

Thank you. That's that's so funny that you use the word wonder. Um one of the I did a values test. And it's I don't know if you've ever done a values on yourself to see maybe what a vaster understanding of what your like five core values are, what mean the most to you. A lot of people, I think, think that they know what they are until they see a huge list and they have to get down to to like a couple. Like these are the ones you get to carry away. And the, you know, I think it was about 200 words or whatnot. And and so you have a big circle and you put 20 of those words in the outside, and then you condense that to the inner circle, which is 10 words, and then there's one more circle, which is five, and those are your five. And wonder wonder is one of my words.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:23

So Well, I I can see that. Pick it up. I can see that. I think it comes through in in the way you um you express your thoughts.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:37

Do you how do I even ask this question? I'm just so curious about your your session. So forgive me if I'm being um like redundant in any of my meandrings. But when it comes to I how much does the brain really get in the way sometimes of of resistance with really working with clients? Like, is that something that I know you said you have the vetting process in you and you really like to make sure that they're where they need to be before you before you connect, but is there yeah, are there certain types of minds that you know that you can't work with? Like, is what like what are the indicators of too much resistance, I guess?

Everything is Timing

SPEAKER_04 1:19:33

Well it doesn't happen a lot, I have to say. Every now and then, maybe there is a person who um does not allow themselves to have the experience that they desired. It's very rare though, and usually this also is exactly what the person needs at the time. You know, I I've worked with clients in in the past, in the beginning, who had this kind of experience, and then they sent me a message a year later, and even though on the day of their session, they were, you know, quite sad and disappointed, I guess, and they were hoping for more than they they got it on the day. But a year later I received the message and they're like, Oh my god, I did not see it at the time, but this experience was so important for me because it it motivated me to go in a certain direction, and now I have received all the answers that I was seeking at the time in other ways. And the way they came to me was so powerful, I don't think it would have been that powerful if I had received them in the session. And so, you know, that that helped me trust um the flow of things here as well. It's even though it may not seem on the surface what you want, it may be the best thing that happened to you, you know?

SPEAKER_00 1:21:13

Yeah. I have you had um mentorship for yourself? Do you do you do you mentor anyone? Um share your teachings.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:27

You mean whether I am I am serving as a mentor? Um I do I do mentor colleagues currently. Like I offer this service, uh, other quantum hypnosis facilitators, they they can hire me as their mentor, you know. I'm happy to share, share my knowledge, my experience with with others. I don't do like general mentoring, like you know, like coaching. That's that's not part of my portfolio yet. I don't know, maybe at some point, but I don't really have the time. So no, it's I don't do that at the moment.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:09

No, I was just I'm just um curious because I I think sometimes when it comes to being deeply moved, I mean, how often has someone turned to your profession after like a session with you? Because I just think that experiences like this are so awakening that I imagine people are like, maybe I should be doing this, you know? And so I wonder if that's something you've come across.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:38

Well, it certainly doesn't happen often because facilitating is quite different from experiencing it. So it's a craft, you know, it's it's a profession, it's something that you need to learn and build up and become better at. So it's not easily done. And you also need to be called by it. Like, you know, you you need to feel like it it's calling you in a way. In my experience, those who have that they are really good practitioners. However, yes, I have had definitely numerous clients who felt inspired to learn the craft after their session because the experience was so profound for them that they would like to share it with others as well. However, only a very small percentage of those who embarked on that path actually stuck with it. You know. Um it's it's quite a small number of people who who train to become a quantum hypnosis practitioner who actually still do it a few years later. Because it's it's intense, you know, you need to be able to do this for like a couple of hours. It's very focused work, very intense, emotionally taxing as well, depending on the case you work on. Um, you need to be able to hold space for someone for several hours. You know, it's it's not easy, but it comes natural to some. So some would say, Oh my god, it's a piece of cake. It's so, you know, organic, uh, intuitive. I love this work. While others may find, ooh, this is quite exhausting. I didn't know it would be that hard, you know. And so they maybe decide for something else. And it's perfectly fine as well, you know, of course. Yeah.

Mentoring Practitioners And The Demands Of The Work

SPEAKER_00 1:25:01

I'm curious about like, you know, 10 years from now, what else you will have um compounded on with with your with your studies and your pursuits and like how it will expand more so. And I know Akashic readings are also a part of your your practice. How much do those intertwine? How much?

SPEAKER_04 1:25:25

A lot, actually. A lot. Because because of my background as a quantum hypnosis practitioner, I am familiar with working with my clients' higher selves. So when I do Akashic readings, I work very closely with my clients' higher selves when I do that as well. So I think this is my way of doing it, you know, because of my background. Um you can certainly work with the Akashic Records and not work directly with the higher self, but I love doing it. I love working with them, I'm I'm familiar with them, so it comes very easy to me. And so um I recently uh started an online training for my quantum hypnosis work. So, you know, um, connected to what we were just talking about, if someone feels called to do this work, I offer a training, a tra a training program, an online course where they can do that. And I will create a similar training for Akashic Reading Work as well. This is probably something that will exist 10 years from now. Hopefully one year from now.

unknown 1:26:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:34

Yeah, six months from now.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:36

Yeah, exactly. It's something I plan to do this year, actually, you know, to produce and create. So um I think training is where I'm headed. You know, it I love practicing, I love facilitating, but I realized that this work can can have even more impact if I teach others how to do it as well.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:03

Because then they can work with even more people, and then you know it's like it's spreading and expanding, and it's what the world needs, I I believe, right now. It needs awakening, it needs healing, it needs remembering. Yeah, you know. So whatever I can do to reach as many people as possible, and as one person, I just it's limited. So I have to to work with others and and teach uh others how to do that, and so we can, you know, get there.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:39

Yeah. Yeah, you have to create a network of meaningful connection, I think, and and similar practice. You lit up when you said that you love doing the Akashi reading. And uh what what what do you love about it? Like what what is why does the Love comes from? Like, what's the moment where your body was just like, this is one of those things that I adore?

SPEAKER_04 1:28:11

It just happened at some point. In the in the beginning, it was more like a rational decision because I was already doing the hypnosis work. And I realized that there are a lot of people out there who don't feel comfortable going into hypnotic trance. And they may feel that they're not able to. You know that their mind is too powerful and they they can't do it. So I was wondering like, what can I do? What other service can I offer to those who who don't resonate with hypnosis? And then the Akashic Reading came along and the Akashic Reading work. And so I decided to do that. And over time I I came to really love and enjoy it.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:55

Because it's it's very peaceful work. You know, the hypnosis sessions, it's I'm interacting with another person, with their energetic field, with their emotions, beliefs. I'm interacting with their higher self. So it's very dynamic. The the Akashic reading work I can do by myself. You know, there's no appointment needed. I can do it on my own time. And it's just me connecting with um other realms. And it's it's just it's I feel very peaceful when I do it, and I'm in a beautiful flow, and it's like meditating for work, you know, in a way.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:49

That's really beautiful.

Akashic Readings And Teaching The Work

SPEAKER_04 1:29:53

It's it's also something you can do from anywhere, you know, so it's not location attached. And um yeah, you could you can assist those who may not yet want to have their higher wisdom come to through them, they're more comfortable with having it flow through someone else for now, and that's perfectly fine. It's perfectly fine, and I'm happy to offer this alternative service, you know, to those.

SPEAKER_00 1:30:29

How did you come into opening up to the lessons of Akashic Readings? Like how did that, how did that find your your path?

SPEAKER_04 1:30:39

A bit more actively. Like I was actually looking for other services. And then I I was just um choosing a training. No. What was your question?

SPEAKER_00 1:30:56

Oh, I really wish I remembered.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:58

Um the Akashic readings. Oh, right.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:01

How I found it.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:03

Yeah, it was more like an active process. While the quantum hypnosis it kind of found me, I I would say. Um, it just crossed my path. The Akashic reading, I I was actively looking for something I could I could get into, you know, as an additional service.

unknown 1:31:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:23

So there was a bit of choice and interweaving of just time and fate and and wanting something.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:31

Um Exactly. I think you know that that's very important to know as well. Not everything is about flow. You know, things can flow to you, but as a human being, as a human being, you you are here to make choices. Yeah. You know? Human existence is choosing every day, again and again and again. In every moment you're making a choice. So don't underestimate the power of choice. And it's perfectly valid, you know, to choose something actively. Not not everything has to come to you as if by magic.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:11

I feel as though you're calling me out right now. I just so prefer, I so prefer the magic. I I don't in my in my experience. There are bouts of loneliness when I feel as though there's not some like great orchestration happening, you know, and I feel withdrawal, withdrawal from a sense of yeah, being on the path or or you know, I'll question, I'll question a lot. And I I'm curious, because earlier we talked a little bit about the the allowing and like letting things letting things unravel and and you know allowing your your life to happen. But when it comes to the unknown and like life's path, I think that there are extreme moments of uncertainty that can just knock the wind out of you, you know, and they I think that they can make someone question so many of their of their choices, especially when you are on your path, especially when you are headed and you know, you know it, you feel it, but also doubt can be so loud. And yeah, if you're not getting those pings of of reassurance or you know, happenstance or magic or whatever you want to call them, that those things aren't finding your path. I think there's fear. Like for at least in in my experience, I think there can be so much fear of having done the wrong thing.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:52

But I don't I don't know if that's for everyone, but that's exactly the point I would try to make. It's not the same for everyone. You know, it highly depends on what you came to experience here. You may have actually wanted to experience flow. And so looking out for that flow, for the magic, things coming organically, it may be exactly what you set out to do. So it's very appropriate for you to follow that. While someone else may have set out to, you know, to experience the power of choice and more relying on their mental faculty. It's not the same for everyone. This is something I've learned, you know, over the years. Each life is its own thing, its own creation, its own plan, its own production. You can it it's really difficult to make general statements. And you may have noticed, you know, from my answers, there there were there are many times when I I have to be vague and I have to say yes and no, and because it's it's so it's there's it's such a spectrum. And so you cannot really judge anyone else's life, to be to be really honest here. It's it's not possible because you never know what that soul set out to do. And I would say the the the the boundary is when it makes you when it hampers your um your expansion, your movement. Like for example, you you said doubt can be quite crippling, right? Doubting your choices. I think once you get into that crippling stage, it it's it it's calling for more balance, meaning you need trust, you know, or you need to to somehow get into motion again. Because if that's one thing that that com connects everyone here, I would say it's moving along in some way.

Flow Versus Choice And Staying In Motion

SPEAKER_00 1:36:25

I I completely agree with that. Sometimes I I think that and you know, especially if you're someone who likes movement, that being able to I would say forced to to to stillness and and to be without options at times can be one of the hardest lessons, but like the most necessary. And and yeah, I guess I'm gonna I'm gonna reflect a little bit on the idea of flow versus choice too, because I mean I don't know about you, I and I know we have to to go soon, but I feel like all of those ring true in a lot of different ways. Like to be able to have a life of choice is definitely, you know, through my lens, the thing that I really value is to have a to to be rebellious, to question, to question, to question, to, to get to know, to be curious. And yet, yeah, there's an absolute gracefulness and playfulness and allowance, I think that happens when you just made the choice to show up, I guess, and everything worked out. Like and then, you know, worked out better than any expectation or or imaginative thing, you know, where it just you met the right person or the right song came on, or you had the most amazing conversation, or you know, you just let go and were happy with where you where you are. So much to think about.

SPEAKER_04 1:38:00

Well, it's probably about balance, you know? It all of it in like moderation.

SPEAKER_03 1:38:08

None of it, that would be fair.

SPEAKER_04 1:38:13

It's often the key, you know. I I found that it's often the key to to experience it all in some way and and see the value of everything. Because that's that's one of the um one of the strongest aspects aspects of the higher self perspective, seeing everything as valuable, you know, judging experiences into good and bad, they they don't really do that. So if you manage to see the value in it all, then you are very close to your higher self perspective.

SPEAKER_00 1:39:00

Thank you so much for for coming on here and and talking to me. Um, you're absolutely delightful to talk to you. So um thank you. But I have a question that I like to ask everyone, and it's are you familiar with The Wizard of Oz, the original story of The Wizard of Oz? Yes. Um The question is which character in The Wizard of Oz, all of it is the most problematic to you or the most annoying and a less attractive word, but the most problematic?

SPEAKER_04 1:39:39

Ooh. Oh my god, that's a tough question because I I don't really see any of them as problematic. They're they all have their their part to play. Um I did not I was not annoyed by any of them. I think I was amazed like when I saw it for the first time. Like oh that I'm sorry, I can't really answer that.

SPEAKER_00 1:40:03

That's okay. No, that's perfect. If you I you're one of the only people I've asked in a very long time who who had such a kind and spiritual approach to the answer. So I think it's right in line. It falls right in line with what we've talked about.

SPEAKER_04 1:40:23

I'm desperately trying to find like a better answer here, but I'm going through the characters and none of them really no. I'm sorry.

Closing Reflections & Mo’s Pod Takeaways

SPEAKER_00 1:40:33

That's okay. That is okay. It always just says a little something about the person. So I always like to ask it because people always choose someone, and I think there's a little bit of ourselves in that character. So that's a great question. And that was that was Mario. And you can find him um on Instagram at the soul journey, and I will post that. I will post that here wherever you're listening. Hopefully you can just give it a click and and wander over and see what it is we're talking about and and find yourself as enamored and as interested as I've been. And, you know, I've had a couple of weeks really to to to edit this and and to make room for um a pretty long conversation. And I find that I'm so man, I'm just grateful for his support and his interest because I don't, you know, I believe in what I'm doing, and I I think I've done a lot. But when you're coming at someone from your Instagram page that still doesn't have the amount of followers that maybe you feel that it should have, given the type of platform and the visibility that you want in order to get to where you're going, it's so meaningful when someone like sees through that noise and is like, yeah, let's let's do it, let's connect. And reflecting back on it, I didn't do as much research on Mario as I wish that I had, because I wanted it to be such an open conversation and and I wanted it to be whatever it needed to be, you know, and I didn't want to shape it. And so I had questions that I wanted to ask, but I find now in reflection that there was so there's so much to talk about with what he does and the types of sessions that he's had and the type of insane breakthroughs he's had with with clients and and especially on a healing level and like what he can get down to on that quantum level, whether that's down or up to or around, I'm not sure. But and how he he's helping so many people with what he does at such an expert level. And you know, he's he has a podcast of his own, and he's been on, you know, quite a few to talk about what he does. And so I definitely encourage you to go do that. And I'm gonna take this as a lesson for myself to to be prepared and to be more saturated in this person that I haven't met, just in case, you know, there's more places I want to go. And so that was just that's just a lesson for me. And and really for you to know as a listener that I, you know, I want to go, I want to go deeper and and I will. And I'm just learning how to do that when you're, you know, when you don't have the exact pleasure of having someone in the room with you, um, and you're separated by uh virtual realities. Um it's it's a it's uh there's a learning curve and I'm learning it and I'm excited to show up for it. So thank you so much, and thank you, Mario, for for coming on here and and sharing your light.