Starseeds in the Studio w/Twin Essence

Welcome back to This is a Metaphor — it’s been a few weeks and in this episode, Mo sits down with Twin Essence for a fast, wide-ranging talk that moves from paranormal childhood stories to Starseed identity, ascension work, and the real-world challenge of staying sovereign inside everyday systems. 

A Starseed is: A lightworker, Star People, Old Soul, Galactic Soul. They have a deep intuition, deep interest in space and stars, and are focused on spiritual healing and ascension.

This week was a wonderful teaser for a follow up conversation between the Mo, Lacey, and Marley. Until then, you can find out more about their work and how to connect below:

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Transcript

New Studio And Episode Setup

Mo 0:06

Hello, hello. Today is today's an exciting day because I have not I've not posted and I'm not gonna say okay, I'll say it. It's been three weeks and it's for very good reason. I I got into a studio space and um that has just taken I mean I I have given my my energy to lovingly and very excitedly start curating this space so I can start making big, big, big art. Hopefully having people here to to make art with, to collaborate with, to to dance with, you know, and um really just to make make stuff. And this episode is the first recording I've done in this in this studio, and I was so happy. You know, I don't think I could have asked for a a better episode. It is a quick one. Um I gave my hand at trying um a 50-minute interview, and uh that just is not enough time. But also, as an experimental podcaster, I will say it was a delightful glimpse at really hopping along from topic to topic in a far more conversational way, not diving too deep, but we will be we will be doing another recording. And so I'm not gonna talk too much about what we talk about today because I kind of want this episode to talk for itself. I imagine that a few of you listeners might need a little bit of help with a few of the the terminologies that we use. Um this is a this is a special conversation, and I think it's it's one that I probably want to be having more of. Um if you have been listening to me for a while, you know that I I love an expansive conversation, and um I try not to put too much of a limitation on what that might include and who that might include and what I might learn about myself through that conversation. And I just found at the end of this episode that I had so many more questions and and so I'll just get I'll get right to it. I'll let you I'll let you listen for yourself and um hopefully my descriptor in the podcast description really does quite a bit of of heavy lifting for us. So sit back and enjoy and um yeah, I hope I hope this episode makes you smile, it makes you question, and it makes you um curious to ask more questions and to ask yourself where it is that you felt uncomfortable and where it is that you you just wanted to know more

Meeting A Mentor On The Mic

Mo 3:11

than so you you listened to the podcast with Mario, and you guys just had a podcast with Mario. I think like it went live this past week, didn't it?

SPEAKER_00 3:21

Yes, yes, we just did it, ironically, it's kind of funny.

Mo 3:25

What what was how did how did how did it go? How did did you like was it something where you guys compared notes or was it more of just like an expan like was it an expansive conversation with coworkers or yeah great?

SPEAKER_00 3:38

Absolutely actually like it really did feel like it did kind of feel like that. We're probably gonna do a part two actually, um, because we could I felt like we could talk to each other for like hours about different things. Um, but I think like so we've been following him for some time and his his two books were really foundational in our during our starseed awakenings, actually, um, because it was really difficult to find like materials that actually resonated with what we were going through at the time. And um, he wrote the one about past lives, and then he wrote his second book was about starseeds and new earth. And it it just it was like we finally like found something that we saw ourselves in and really resonated with. So we always we were telling him about this when we met him, but it's like we always recommend those two books to clients because they're always looking to learn more. And I'm like, well, it's really difficult, really, and it's gonna be difficult to find information, but I'm like these two books, like that's where you gotta start.

Mo 4:35

Like Did the books find you? Was it like the first book found you first, or did the second book find you first? I always think it's interesting when things come out of, you know, like numerical order, but still have a profound effect on you.

SPEAKER_00 4:49

We so we knew about Mario before the I mean, we knew about him. We'd been following him, I think, before he even published the first one. So we just kind of went with like whatever he had at the time. But like I remember when he was like promoting like that he had the second one coming out and it was specific to Star Season New Earth, and we were just like, oh my god, like that is the one, like we need that. And then um, we were like, well, we better read the first one, and then we'll read the second one. So we did, we both read them in order, but like we were telling Mario this, like how he wrote those books. It was like the most divinely guided, like synchronistic experience ever as a reader, because I I I gave him the example of in the first book that was specific to like the higher self and past lives. Um, like it was so synchronistic down to the point that I was reading one of the transmissions about um like they were talking about like it's as easy, like like melted cheese on a pizza, and then it was like my oven dinged, I had a pizza in. I remember just being like, like I remember just being like, I was meant to be here at this exact moment reading this.

Mo 5:59

Pizza is one of the greatest alignment stories I think a person can experience as a human being, because it's one of the greatest gifts given to mankind.

SPEAKER_00 6:09

Absolutely. And we were even telling him, like, we had rescheduled our interview with him because he had a a power, like a scheduled power outage. And and then the day that we were going to have it that we rescheduled from we had an unplanned power outage. So we were like, what are like which never like never happens. So we were like, this is like really weird. We were like, weren't you the one that had the power outage? Why were we having the power outage? Like it was so funny.

Mo 6:36

That's so funny. Where where are you guys located again? We're out of Wisconsin. Wisconsin, okay, yeah. And he's on the other side of the world, so wow, that's that's remarkable. That's amazing that you get to like one thing I think is amazing as a person is to be able to connect with someone that inspires you. Like, that's quite a gift, and then to be able to connect with someone that you've pretty much considered a mentor, and then to be like on a podcast with them, that is I mean, does that feel like like a box checked off of okay?

SPEAKER_00 7:10

Absolutely, it absolutely was. It was it was very exciting. We were very excited to buy it, and we had a lot of fun. That's why we're like, we will plan another one, Mario. Like we and we always do like segments, like on so it's part of this interview series we do on YouTube, and we always plan like fun, kind of like we call them like spiritual themed games. And so we do a couple different renditions of this. And so with him, we were doing like spiritual theme would you rathers. And I remember like Lacey's like, Lacey's like, all right, well, this is our last one. Mario's like, no, I don't want to stop. We're like, all right,

Synchronicity Stories And Spiritual Games

SPEAKER_00 7:45

we'll do two more. Two more. Like, like I only have.

Mo 7:48

Can I can I get an example? I would love an example.

SPEAKER_00 7:51

Yeah, I think like, okay, like this is gonna sound this is like the craziest one we have, but like I don't know why that's the only one coming to my mind. And it's like, would you rather smell like high quality frankincense all the time, no matter what? Or um it was it was that, or it was, oh, have your inner monologue broadcasted as a podcast for one hour every day.

Mo 8:18

Oh, okay. Um, do I get to answer this? Can I I would love to have my inner monologue broadcasted. I would be delighted. It would, I feel like it would be, it would take half of the restraint and energy that I think it takes to even put yourself on a podcast. It would just be done divinely for you, you know? And all of my little missteps and all the devils on my shoulder, I would have, you know what I mean? It would be okay. I would forgive myself for some of my thoughts, I think. What would what what did you guys choose?

SPEAKER_00 8:50

I would choose the podcast as well. I was like, you know what? Like, I'm pretty, I'm pretty uh, I don't know, like unfiltered. So I feel like you're not gonna get a lot, like you're not gonna get a lot that you're not already getting with me, I feel like. So I was like, I don't know, what's the difference? Broadcast that shit. Like, I don't know. I mean, I agree. I think too, like, we the the I love these questions when we do it. One, because it's a lot of fun and we'd like to have fun. But also, like, certain questions bring out different aspects of people. So, like when we ask the frankincense one, like we can always get a gauge on like what is the level of religious trauma someone has. And like Mario's like, oh Catholic, like oh Catholic, you know what I mean? And like, um, and like the podcast thing just makes me laugh because I'm like, or the inner monologue as a podcast, because I'm like, well, you know, like what time of day are we broadcasting? Is it morning? Is it evening? Like, is it middle of the night? I said, honestly, the one thing people might get from me in the inner monologue being broadcast is how many loops I go on. Like, like everyone's like, why is she still thinking about this? Like, you know, it's Friday, why is she still thinking about this at the same time?

Mo 10:03

This happened two Fridays ago. We're gonna have to let this go. Yeah. Right. A little bit of the loop. I think that would be very a humbling experience. Is there, like, spiritually speaking, outside of more of uh the maybe Christianity, but like for Franken sense, like, is that is there some other type of use? Like I know you can walk into a spiritual shop and maybe be slapped in the face with certain aromas, but does Franken sense

Paranormal Childhood And Protection Work

Mo 10:30

have a different meaning for you guys?

SPEAKER_00 10:32

Um, yeah, I think so. This takes me back to like our early OG, like spiritual days of of when we like first started Twin Essence. Um, and we actually started with house cleansings because um we actually have very paranormal origins, like childhood. And don't threaten me with a good time.

Mo 10:53

Let's never go.

SPEAKER_00 10:55

Yeah. So like we are paranormal origins, but like we started, and like the whole reason like Twin Essence started was even to do house cleansings. And we would use frankincense, like the oil in um it's it's in a protection oil that we it is.

Mo 11:13

So you know.

SPEAKER_00 11:14

Well, that's a very that's a super common. I mean, you can start connecting with us, stuff's gonna happen at Mo. Like, um, so I'm not surprised by the light flickering. We have great light flickering stories. Um they they often use that, like in the beginning of my spiritual awakening, they used lights a lot for me because I was like, you need to hit me upside the face with it. Like, make it obvious.

Mo 11:38

Yeah. I I feel like I ask for for obvious signs often too. Like, like I don't want to pret I don't want to talk myself out of what I just like what just happened, especially when it comes to synchronicities. And like I want it to be undeniably. I mean, this the subtle ones are sweet too, but it's nice when it's so loud that you can't say no.

SPEAKER_00 11:56

Yes. We always tell the story of like when we were kids, we were always like trying to like interact with spirits, and um, we did not know we had like abilities or gifts when we were kids, but uh we just had like an obsession with it. And we didn't really like it, it wasn't really like abnormal. Like, and we grew up on a house that was very open, like spiritually. They were very like, they believed in psychic mediums, they believed in spirits, they believed in ghosts, like there was never a doubt about that. Um, and so we were when we were kids, we would try to like like move our stuffed animals around and we'd be like asking the spirits to like interact with them, and we'd be like, we're gonna leave the room and when we come back, like move the rabbit, like that kind of stuff. And there was one night when we were kids that the lamp by my bed turned on by itself, like it clicked and like flipped on. And we screamed and ran out of our my our room that we shared. And then we like told our mom, and she was like, Well, I'm sure it was like a power surge. And we were like, No, mom, it literally clicked on, like you had to press the button. It was like, and we always laugh because we're like, Spirit was probably like, Oh my god, like you're always asking me to do things, and then I do it, and you scream and run in terror when I do it.

SPEAKER_01 13:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:10

Um, and we actually we did a podcast episode where we told that story. And when Marley was editing the episode in my bedroom alone, door closed, no joke. At that point in the episode where we started telling the story, my lamp that light bulb died, turned off. So I it was a really great validation. I was like, all right, thank you. Now I know years ago this was what happened.

Mo 13:39

Yeah. There are times for for me, if I'm like, um, you know, I'm trying to get clarity or I'm asking for clarity or you know, I would call it channeling if I'm like laying on my bed specifically. There are times where I'll start to say something and then maybe I feel connected. But I remember one specific time the there had been weird things happening with the lights like all day, but I felt as though I could maybe like see something in the corner of my room. Like suddenly it didn't seem like a shadow. It felt like more of uh an entity. And I immediately was like, I am not ready. I was like, whatever, I am not ready. I actually I changed my mind. Thank you. I'm going to bed.

SPEAKER_00 14:20

That's I'm good. Yeah, I think that's really interesting because we grew up watching like lots of OG paranormal shows, like uh like Paranormal State and Psychic Kids and um what is it, most terror? I always forget the name of it, most terrifying terrifying places on earth. On earth. Yeah. That one and that one is the one that we would like beg our mom. They like put families in like haunted locations around the world and they'd see if they could survive the night. Marley and I would like beg our mom to watch let us watch that show. And she would be like, fine, I'll let you watch it. But do not come to my room and tell me you're scared tonight. Like you have to sleep in your room. And so we'd be like watching it, and then we go to bed and we'd be fine. But if whenever we woke up at 3 a.m., that's like dead time in the and that would freak us out then. If we woke up at 3 a.m., we'd be like, it's dead time. Like you can't, you can't get up to go to the bathroom. Like the ghosts are gonna get you and see you. And um, so that was that was uh one of the big things that we we grew up on. And so I think in the paranormal, there's a ton of that like dark creepiness. Um, and I would say like the early days of our like spiritual awakenings, we did a lot of paranormal work. Um, we even took like paranormal trips, like we did Scotland, we did Ireland, like investigations abroad, and we had more because some spiritual leaders will tell you like it doesn't exist, like there's no such thing as darkness, there's no such thing as negativity. Um but we did have experiences with darker beings. But I always say I feel like all that did was inform us of like our own sovereignty and power with our energy. Like, because all it did was teach us how to protect ourselves

Light Dark Polarity And Twin Balance

SPEAKER_00 16:00

and how to like choose what we interact with.

Mo 16:04

Yeah, I like that like like lessons from the ether. Because I mean, one person's darkness could not be anywhere near the darkness for somebody else, you know. It just may be like something unknown or somewhere that you don't want to go, or however you choose to define that. Like, is darkness for you something that is very much a strengthening aspect of like your calling, or that's a good question.

SPEAKER_00 16:29

I feel like I guess I've never actually thought I feel like we talk about like the sovereignty and learning from like the darker side of the paranormal, because there's definitely a lot of people in our network who are like, I don't believe in negative beings. I don't believe there's any of this. And Lacey and I are like, no, we we believe it. Like we know it exists. Like I there's demons, you know what I mean? Like I'm like But I feel like w like what it's done is it's given us this integrated perspective, and that's really what like as Star C Light Workers and Ascension Guides, like that's really what ascension is. It's like this integration of this integration, which is balancing of of light and dark, of um, so you have you can't have only light. There needs to be shadow too. And so it's just like positive and negative when we talk about polarity for ascension. Like there's no such thing as um, I think a hundred percent pure light and pure positivity. Like you always need the shadow and you always need the negativity as well. That's what makes it integrated, that's the whole.

Mo 17:33

Yeah. I want to like delicately ask about the fact that you guys are twins. I'm sure this is something that you have experienced every day of your lives, is a question about twindom. But when it comes to your practice, because you guys very much are complementary and an asset to one another, like how much do you do you balance each other when it comes to light and dark within like your practice? Or are you guys both just like light bulbs like ding ding?

SPEAKER_00 18:02

Yeah, I think I think we balance each other because so I think like when I was a kid, I used to think we were very like we were like really similar. As we aged, I'm like, we're actually very different energetically. And like as we went through our spiritual awakenings and things, like um had different mentors, they're like, wow, you're very different energetically. Um, I we've often been described as like polar opposites in terms of like uh the thing that's coming to my mind is like our first mentor, she always said, like, oh Lacey, you're gonna be the one that walks around and starts the fires. Marley, you're gonna walk around and put them out. And that's really interesting. It's really like true because and it also is part of like our starseed origins, too. Like, I'm very much going to be the one that I will always jump in. I'm gonna go forward, straightforward into it. I'm not going to be like scared about it or like overthink it. Marley's going to be like, I'm gonna watch you do that. And she's like, and then I'm gonna think about it and think of a better way to do it, maybe more strategically. And I'm like, just do the like I go right in. Yeah, it's but it's interesting because it is a balance, like how and how and I think that's how we work together too. Like we're always balancing like where Lacey might have a strength and I might have a weakness versus where I have a strength and she has a weakness. And then energetically, like when we work together, like we're integrating that energetically and then working with someone too, like in a in a one-to-one like client session, right? So, like Lacey might be bringing forward a message or something, and then I might pick it up and and take it further, or take it to a different aspect of it, or we could be totally saying the same thing, but in completely different ways because the person needs to hear it in two different ways to fully understand it.

Mo 19:47

Yeah, so it's a little bit of like offense and defense work, like passing of the ball. I love that. I love a good sport analogy too. When it comes to clientele, do you often do it sit together? Do you work with your clients like as a pairing, or do you like to split off individually?

SPEAKER_00 20:10

Yeah, we when we first started Twin Essence, we were doing like our own thing separate. We didn't do a ton together, other than like cleansings or like group events we would do together. Um and now, like, I feel like we only work together. Now it's like it is so much more powerful together, though. Like we are like these amplifiers and you put us together, and it's like this, it's actually so hard to explain. Like, it's actually like addicting when you do it together, I feel like, versus like it's fine when I'm by myself. But like we were just we were just going through this internally because we're working through like we're in a program right now where we're doing a lot of different, different like activations and energetic things. And when we do the program, we actually lay side by side to receive the activations because we have like way more powerful experiences doing it that way than when we did it separate. Like we tested it, we did it separate, and it was like, eh, and then we did it together and it was just like transcendent. So it's like it's a great feeling.

Mo 21:09

I've I I love that because even when you said that it's so much better together, like I felt that in my body. Like my my shoulders felt much lighter and very like I, you know, I I know that feeling, or at least I hope a lot of people know that feeling to be able to. It's really exciting to be able to share something, especially something you've been called to do that's so powerful,

Why Twins Work Better Together

Mo 21:30

especially with someone that you've known your whole life and love and care about deeply, to be able to share that. I think that is just not everybody gets that experience. I mean, that's very profound in and of itself, let alone that you're doing something that's so deeply like unique and spiritual.

SPEAKER_00 21:48

I mean, yeah, and it's like our incarnations were designed that way for a reason, right? Like we because we have separate birthdays, actually. We um one I was born before midnight, she was after midnight. Midnight. So we have different birthdays. We actually switched though at birth. I feel like that's because that's a spirit thing too. Like I was supposed to be born first and Lacey second. And then we just totally switched places. I was like, I'm not going out there. Like Lacey, you go first. But that's true to the nature of who we are and our cosmic origins. Like Lacey as that like Lyran warrior, she's gonna be like, no, no, no, no, let me take this and me as the Syrian elder. I'm gonna be like, no, no, no, let me strategize a little bit more before I get out there. Yeah, it was. I mean, the first time I ever had a reading by a psychic medium, and she ended up being our first mentor. Um, she said that when I walked in. She's like, What is the symbol? And it was like the yin and yang, but she kept going like this, and I'm like, oh, because we switched at birth. Like I was we moved in the womb and I became I came out first, and she was like, Oh, this is weird. Like, this is so weird to channel. Like, so it was, it was, I think it was designed that way very dis for a divine purpose. Because I think that the work we're doing is um, I think it's hard to do alone.

Mo 23:05

Yeah. Why is it hard to do alone?

SPEAKER_00 23:10

I think it's hard to do alone.

Mo 23:11

Also, please forgive my giant water bottle.

SPEAKER_00 23:13

I need to say it is enormous. No, no worries. Um I think because when we when we really actually so like we went through our spiritual awakening, which was like psychic mediumship, and then we went through like a deeper layer, which was our starseed awakenings. And I think that when we actually went through our starseed awakenings, where we actually uncovered like our cosmic origins and where we came from, it became very clear to us that we were here, not like we used to say, like, oh, we're spreading light and healing, but it became clear to us that we were here for much like bigger things than just that alone. It was more about how we are able to activate humanity's remembrance collectively with everything that's unfolding on the collective level, like all of the chaos, all of the like I don't even know what to say, like all of the current events and things that are happening globally. Like it's a lot, but it's happening for a reason. Yes, it's happening for a reason. And and we're able to hold that higher perspective and consciousness to help explain like why it's happening. But then like we also help connect people to their cosmic origins. And it's it's not easy to do this work alone because when you're going through it alone, and I've had we've had other spiritual leaders say this to us. Um, we still have spiritual leaders say to us, like, I could never talk about the topics that you talk about. People would think I'm crazy or they would think XYZ about me. There's a lot of fear. There's a lot of fear in it, and like the starseed, galactic, cosmic, whatever phrase you want to use, like work that we do, the fear behind it and and the judgment that people have for themselves on it, it's a it's not always like we're in the process of opening society to it right now, right? Um, and so I think back in the day, like mediumship, like people were like, I don't know if I believe in ghosts. Now it's like more widely accepted, like tarot card oracle decks mediumship is more widely accepted, and that's evidence of the collective ascension process. But then when we get into the star beings, galactic beings, like people get freaked out. They're like, aliens, what? No, I don't, I don't want to touch that. Like, so it's like we went to this next level of um, like Lacey and I always say, like, people are like, it was weird enough that you were like, I talk to ghosts, but now they're like, you talk to fucking aliens, you gotta be kidding me.

Mo 25:41

Like a question to base off of uh a little bit of that perspective, because when it comes to I have a background in in branding and and a lot of tonality when it comes to like how we describe what we

Naming Starseeds Without The Fear

Mo 26:00

do on just like a business level, so not necessarily on one's path or divine calling, but like how we show up in the world. And did you was there ever a point where you you didn't want to call it, did you have trepidation identifying as like a starseed? Was there was that something that you were like, this is the next step, or were you like, I don't know that I want to call it that? I mean, was there fear there because of I think the pushback and you know, people not knowing what it is, but also the assumption of what some people think that that means?

SPEAKER_00 26:32

Yeah, I feel like we were totally comfortable with the starseed language, language. What was different was like you'll hear us say like light beings or star beings or galactic beings, those really all mean the same thing to us. We don't typically say alien, and that's because when we went through our starseed awaking, they specifically told us when we channeled them. They were like, the collective will say alien, but that comes with a lot of fear. Like we're and like we could tell, we can feel it. Like we're like, oh, this is benign, like this is totally the most the best, lightest being in the world. Like, so we always say like they're light beings or they're star beings, they're not aliens because there's such a fear that comes behind that word now with the collective. And I will say, like, I remember we posted after we went through our starseed like initiation or activation. Um, it was just like a random post that was like, we're star seeds. And I feel like it had like no context to like our brand. It was like we're and we felt like we were like, we can't we felt like we came out of the closet, and like nobody reacted, like ever, nobody gave a shit.

Mo 27:38

Give us a thumbs up, like, okay.

SPEAKER_00 27:40

Yeah, and then like it was like a big deal to us. Like we were like, we just came out, and then it was just like everybody's just like no reaction. And then like I think what really got the reaction is when we shifted our actual offerings to more star being and ascension focuses, because then there were some of the, oh, you're not doing medium ship anymore, or you're not doing house cleansings. Um, there were a couple like, you know, there were like the your energy's really off now. Like it just like it made people it actually made some people really uncomfortable. Um which is natural when you change things, right? Um, but it didn't, it didn't bother us because we knew we were doing, we were making the right decision for us and we knew there was never going to be like there was never going any bat, like we couldn't go back. It was like now that we know what we know, like I can't do what I was doing anymore. And even like when we tried to continue doing like psychic mediumship, like our sessions would naturally shift to like star beings and people would be like, Why are you talking about this? I've never told anyone about this experience. And I'm like, because it's what they're telling me right now. And so like it just, it just like naturally shifted for us, whether people wanted it to in our audience or not. Um that's that's just like one of the byproducts of what happens when you, when you like start to really narrow in on the mission.

Mo 29:04

I mean, I think it's another perk of having someone that you've have been sent here in order to just grow up with. It's that's someone like on your team in order to experience like the absolute power and gift of that. Because yeah, I think just changing one's mind can be scary in itself, but like changing two minds and sticking to a plan is is really nice to be able to continue forward versus get distracted by maybe I missed a turn back there, or maybe there was something back there for us. I mean, how has gosh, I feel like there's so many questions I have more time tonight to like to to chew this off. Um, but how has some of the the beginning when it came to mediumship, like how, how has that sort of still transferred over into what you're helping starseeds with now? That's a good question.

SPEAKER_00 30:00

I think um I think with mediumship, it was a lot of like learning to trust what we were receiving. Um, so that by the time we started channeling Starbeings, there wasn't, there wasn't like doubt about what we were receiving. We were very confident and trusting in what whatever was given to us. I think that when we did more mediumship, we focused a ton on like generational work and breaking generational patterns and really helping a lot of people through those journeys. And I think that our Starseed our send ascension work really took that a step further because because you can break all the generational patterns and cycles and that you want, but if you're still operating at like old 3D programming that is really outdated at belief systems, like that's not going to do you any good.

unknown 30:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:52

And like, and that's the essential piece, I think, is like understanding your real programming and like how to transcend that. Yeah, I think it's like one layer of the onion. Like, and it was it was very much a needed curriculum for us. Like Lacey said, learning to trust ourselves, like honestly, like learning how your abilities work, like doing it in sessions is the best way, I think, to do that. Like you're just clients don't necessarily know it, but you're like figuring it out, like sometimes as you go. And then like the deeper layer to where we're at now is like, okay, like Lacey said, generational patterns is one thing, but how do we go further to change your operating system so that you are able to align and um shift to that higher consciousness perspective for ascension, quote unquote.

Mo 31:39

When do you when you work with people, do you you do you refer to them as clients like clientele or do you have other um do you other things that you like to call them?

SPEAKER_00 31:51

We say client most often. We do have a the starseed portal membership space, and that is like if you're entering into that space, like you're a starseed, whether you've uncovered your origin or not, you are a starseed. And so honestly, in that space, like generally when I'm sending transmissions and things, like I do call them starseeds. But whether you identify as a starseed, a mystic, a light worker, a truth seeker, whatever it is, the space is for you. And part of that is though, owning that identity. Like Lacey and I talk a lot about like owning your identity as you have cosmic origins, and it's okay to say I'm a starseed. It's safe.

Mo 32:31

I really, I really love that because it's like you are where you're supposed to be. And in order to be where you are, you have to say what you are, I think. Yeah, I think for all of you to show up.

SPEAKER_00 32:42

Yes. Well, and I think too, like if you are hung up, and this isn't a bad thing, I don't say out of shame or judgment, but if you are hung up on identifying that way, like that's something we can look at programming-wise, right? Like that's something I would want to dive into, you know, with you and say, like, well, what's holding you back? It's likely going to be rooted in fear or judgment of the self and from others. And I think we just had experiences with like, um, I don't know, like they're like, I'm just gonna call it out. Like, there's like Reddit threads and and there's a lot of like experts in Reddit. Um, and there's some experts, quote unquote.

Mo 33:19

And there's some big Oh dear.

SPEAKER_00 33:21

Yeah, big like starsy groups in that space. But like what bothers me the most about that space is that I am like you're all hiding behind a fake username without a picture, and like you're not even like truthful in who you are and owning that part of your identity. And so that's part of like creating our membership. I was like, no, like I don't want people hiding. Like, I want to make a space where you're comfortable being yourself and like no one's judging you for talking about this topic.

Mo 33:50

Like yeah, that is interesting because I think Okay, I wonder what a benefit would be of keeping one's self secret. Like sometimes when you just witness something and you don't want to be seen, I wonder if there's there's parts of that that like have a like a growth opportunity, but I don't know. I think it's challenging in any classroom and in any classroom when you have someone who isn't like truly participating, and it's like it actually pulls

Government Work And The 3D Matrix

Mo 34:20

away from the entire experience for everybody. So so okay. I can I can definitely understand that. I know um when we had sort of asked like if there's anything that you wanted to talk about, you mentioned working in government, which is just a very obtuse, you know, like just the word government, and that was the end of the sentence. So what is what is that experience?

SPEAKER_00 34:43

Yeah, this is like people are really interested as part of our incarnation. I mean, this goes back to the curriculum. Honestly, the curriculum that like, and and when Lacey and I look at our incarnations and how this, how this was designed, you know, everything's happening for us, right? And like we, you know, we still we both work within uh state level government. And it's been such an interesting experience because we have gone through our I guess both our spiritual now, now that I look back, I'm like, how long has it been? Both our spiritual awakening and our starseed awakening has occurred while we've been in public sector. And so it's a really interesting dualistic environment to exist in because you can imagine, like, just saying public sector or just saying government, like people feel a certain way about that. Like it invokes a response, right? Um, but it's been it taught us so much on our path. It has it continues to teach us so much on our path about our multidimensionality. And it provides us a level of what Lacey and I call mastery, um, as it relates to embracing your multidimensionality and um being sovereign in your energy, not letting other things influence you. Um, there are so many lessons in it existing in the 3D matrix, right? Like I don't think I think like it has helped us understand 3D programming on like a whole different level than maybe other I always use it as part of our UVP, like um not to sound all businessy and markety, but like I I always say like it's a really big part of like what makes our work different from other ascension guides because I'm like, no, you don't get it. I actually worked in government and I'm working in government with all the shit that's going on right now at the federal level. And I work at the state level, and trust me, it trickles down. So like it, it's very like it's very dualistic, but it helps us understand like the 3D programming and the things that are actually unfolding. Um, it's just a very different perspective to have.

Mo 36:53

I see it's like a very powerful perspective to have because like I mean, I think when it comes to any like any type of experience for a you know, just a human being to be able to have different facets of your being and experiences that you can pull from that are gonna like make you better. Like, you know, this time last year I was in a a drought of clients and and I was like, I need to pay for things. And I started ride sharing. And the I mean, it was nothing but a spiritual experience for me because of the service, it became such an offering to be able to provide a space for someone to climb into that is like serene and calm and like very clean and smells nice, and like to provide this thing and to see so many different types of people on so many different levels of their day as to why they're even utilizing some sort of transportation that is outside of themselves. And I think one of the things that whole experience gave me is like a calmness and a patience to like provide to always be providing. There's always something you can offer, even if it feels as though your ego is telling you that you um are too good for this, maybe. Um besides that, it's the I think the the transportation aspect, like I can only imagine within government, like how you can kind of see the systematic ways that people begin to think and know, like cubes of no versus you know, possibility and yes, and like what what door is gonna make a bunch of yeses along the way versus all of these shaking heads, like anything in corporation, I think is nothing but shaking heads. And you want them to go this way, but I feel like they're always doing this.

SPEAKER_00 38:35

So I mean, it's like Lacey and I always say, it's like like we exist, we have existed in the problem, so we can understand the problem, right? And we can understand what's not working. So when we look at things from like the higher consciousness perspective, we can see like instead of you know, there's like the people can look at it as like, oh my god, everything's bad and everything look at all these things crumbling and everything's bad, but it's like there's a different, you know, there's a reason behind it and there's a different perspective there that I think not everyone has come come to has come to light to seeing that, right? Like, but so it gives us that perspective. Yeah.

Mo 39:15

Have either of you um, and you know, you don't have to go too

Mental Health Sadness And The Mission

Mo 39:20

deeply into this question, but I I I just wonder if on your journeys, have you dealt with um like depression or different bouts of like mental illness that you've had to get through or that you've maybe relied on each other to to help each other through.

SPEAKER_00 39:41

I can think of. Um I run you know what's really interesting about that though is it was all before like pre-spiritual awakening. Yeah. Like when I actually look at the timeline. I think too, like I think some of the darkest times I've had have been pre-me being conscious to my multidimensionality, me being conscious to my relationship. Um that doesn't take away from the experience, but I just think that like now I can look at it with a different perspective. I also think like now, if I go through something that I feel is really difficult, like um, like the example coming to mind is like when we've had like relationships that like friendships or relationships with people that have just totally fallen apart. Um like I know I've been through really difficult times with that where I've totally like honestly I describe it as feeling like the star seed where I'm like, why am I here right now? moments like um but those, you know, those haven't been like clinical, clinical reactions. But it's like I'm I think that Lacey and I provide that balance then for each other. So that's like when I'm, you know, not to say that we can't both freak out at the same time, but like we bring we bring different perspectives, like where I might be falling apart and crying about something and thinking, um, and thinking like, why am I here? Then Lacey's like, no, fuck that, you know why we're here, right? And so like we balance each other out then with that.

Mo 41:13

I I'm I'm curious too, because um I think when it comes to like sadness, I guess I just know a lot of people who never cry. And I won't dive into the problems that I think that that creates and an experience. But I I guess like in my own journey, there have been moments where like crying is one of those emotions that I think in the past I thought so much was like a depression, like you know, years and years ago when I was really struggling with depression, and then to to have different battles with that over the years and to realize that some days there is a sadness that is like reminding me what my realest calling is. And every time that's always gonna be there, and I can't pluck that out. That is like with me forever. And it's like my gift to feel that sadness because it reminds me that, like, you know, for some reason I've blinked an eye and forgot what it is I really want to be doing and you know, experiencing like that it's there for me. And I wonder if there's an emotion like that for for you two that like always maybe calls you back, calls you back to that one real, the realest of the real.

SPEAKER_00 42:25

That's a good question. This is a really good question. I'm like trying to think of um like an emotion. Um I think I get like what's coming to mind is especially like when we travel, because we are we are travelers, um, I will have moments of I like this is gonna sound really cliche, but it's almost like extreme gratitude, but it's really emotional. Like where I'm like, I can't believe I get to experience this. I can't believe that I get to see this in real life. Um and that like I get to do X, Y, Z. I've had a couple of moments like that, especially especially like I feel like when we're traveling, because I feel I feel very free when we're traveling because I'm not I'm not wearing my government hat. I'm not I'm not trying to be anything to anyone other than myself in those moments. Um, and I'm not like holding a role necessarily. Um, and even if it's like you're sitting at the airport and you are really, really tired, and then some stranger starts talking to you who ends up giving you like um a spiritual message. Um, I feel like that always happens to us. We'll have some interaction with some stranger at the airport that like turns into something. Um, that's like a message from spirit, whether they realize it or not. Um then I'm just like, you know what? Like, I will how could anyone not want to do this? Like it makes me really sad to think of people who like want to give up on their dream. Like, I can't even imagine that because for me, it's like the difference between living life in color and living life in Black and white.

Mo 44:01

Yeah.

unknown 44:02

Yeah.

Mo 44:03

Like true sadness.

SPEAKER_00 44:05

Yeah. And it's like I think too, like I just find it like when you're like awestruck with I don't know, it's really hard to describe, but like it's like the mission is like so big. And like you when you go back to your mission, like we always say like the mission finds you, and then like you are your mission. The mission is you, like it you embody it, it flows through you. Like the mission should run wild and free, just like you, right? And like I feel like that, like there's times when you're very like in in your humanness, and then there's times where like when you can it's like so big that it feels out of reach, but I don't have to say it sounds so dramatic what I'm saying. It's like so big, it feels out of reach, but at the same time, you feel like you're just getting a little bit of it, and it's like the best feeling in the world just to have that little bit.

Mo 44:54

Do you do you ever feel like you you just cock block your own your own mission? Like you is

Blocks Tech Pushback And Growing Up

Mo 45:00

there are there moments for you that like like how does life show itself to you if you've been getting in your own way? And I realize the vastness of that question. So you can answer how you see that.

SPEAKER_00 45:11

Yeah, I mean, yeah, definitely. Like, um, I think like for Lacey and I, it manifests in a lot of ways. Like when we're finding ourselves getting blocked, a lot of times it's like it can come up, it can be like a physical um ailment, maybe for lack of a better phrase. So like um, like throwback to me when I would have wrist problems, like I'd be like, and everybody'd be like, What is why are you wearing this brace? You're like, you're like early 20s in the office with a brace. I'd be like, because I'm having problems with control. Okay. Like, okay, I'm working on control right now. Um but like usually like physical ailments, it'll manifest into, or I'm trying to think, like when we've found ourselves getting limited. But uh Telegram shutting us down. Oh yeah, we've had a lot of um right when we launched our membership, just shut our entire channel down. Like that was, I don't think that was us though long. It wasn't necessarily us. It's like it's like things where you're like, I'm ready, I'm gonna do it. And then it's like a big lesson comes with it. Yeah, it's like teaching you like when you're moving to the next level, there's oftentimes like different aspects that you to learn yet as you're doing that. And so like you've had a lot of the um, I'll say technology, but also like the haters online. Like we've gotten like a ton of um specifically like male individuals online just like commenting hate. I can only imagine. Yeah. And so it's like, but those are all things that, you know, like a year ago maybe would have bothered me. Now I'm like, it's not a me problem, it's a you problem.

Mo 46:47

What's uh this is kind of related, but kind of not. But I I was at a party a few weeks ago, like a housewarming party, and and it was very engaging and it was all creative people and musicians. And so it was just one of those absolutely amazing experiences where you could have conversations in every room. And at one point in the night, I was told this like a week later. I didn't, I didn't know anything about this. But at one point in the night, apparently someone had walked in and everybody had like clapped for her to enter the room. And then I was like, why are we clapping? Like I said, like, why are we clapping? And I and you know, and I guess that was a reasonable thing to say because I was just like, What are we clapping? Like, like maybe she's done something and we're clapping to celebrate it. But her experience of me saying that was that I was like the devil and I had ruined her entrance, and like all night long, apparently, she was just saying, like, she did not like me, and a bunch of bad words were said about me. And I was like, I didn't have any, I didn't have an experience at all. And a year ago, that would have been something that would have totally upset me. I was just like, But I didn't say, you know, I've been like, what did I say? What did I do? And instead, this weird feeling was like fluttering up inside of me. And I was telling a friend of us, and they were like, Oh, so you were flattered. And I was like, I was, I was flattered that I ruined someone's night because that's not something that I would generally seek out to do for any reason. And so it, I don't know, I feel like this aligns in some way just because I just think that there were you met I met a different version of myself, and I was so much happier with the one who was flattered that you know my question was taken so abrasively versus a year ago where I would have let that absolutely demolish me, you know. And so I much prefer the one who's amused by it versus the one who's gonna get knocked over and have to readjust.

SPEAKER_00 48:38

So I mean, if one question ruins your night, man, you've gotta I think that's also like a huge lesson in life is like most of the things that you make into a big deal really aren't a big deal at all. Usually it's just you and not the other person. Um, but I mean, like, where are you putting the value on it, right? Like, are you going to put a value on a random person in a room who said, Why are we clapping? Or instead, are you going to put the value on the 50 other people in the room who did clap, right?

Mo 49:07

Like, well, I love that. Yeah, I think I mean, I'm sure I was her. I'm sure I was just being shown, you know, a version of myself, some some other version of me for sure, where I would have just been like, Why did she say that? I, you know what I mean? This was my entrance and she ruined it. Like, I imagine completely. I feel so bad because I wish I have about a thousand more

Closing Links Readings And Free Month

Mo 49:30

questions to ask you. And it is 650, and I would you do you have any interest in connecting again? No pressure.

SPEAKER_00 49:38

Yeah, we can we can definitely connect again, yeah, in the next next week or the week after, whenever just let us know and we'll look at the calendar.

Mo 49:45

That would be lovely. You always hope for the best, and you always hope it's organic. And I'm super excited because I I have so many more questions, but yeah, yeah. Perfect. Okay, well, um, do you have any uh closing questions or any closing statements you would like to say just about your podcast or where people can find you if you're looking to yeah, sure.

SPEAKER_00 50:13

Um okay, I'll take it away. So uh you can find us on, I mean, honestly, you can find us on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, um, YouTube at Twin EssenceLLC. Um we have a wonderful podcast called The Ascension Path with Twin Essence. On that podcast, we dive into all things ascension and channel all types of star beings to share messages with all of you. Um we also have an amazing YouTube interview series called Between Dimensions with Twin Essence, and that is where we bring on new Earth or light leaders and interview them and have higher consciousness conversations about their journeys and their modalities and how they work with clients. And then if you're looking to work with us more one-to-one, you can head to twinescence.com. We typically start people off with a twin magic reading where we connect you to your cosmic origins. We'll talk about your mission and purpose, um, talk about alignment as it relates to your ascension path, or if you're looking for a little bit more low-stakes community environment, um, we always have the Starsea Portal membership where you can jump in with a bunch of other spiritually like-minded women and explore your cosmic origins, receive channel teachings, different transmissions in a in a private WhatsApp group, as well as bi-monthly uh meetings that we do with the group. And your first month is free, so you can try it out and see if it's for you or not.

Mo 51:39

Hell yeah. That was a golden as far as offerings. That was like, that was perfect.

unknown 51:46

Good.

Mo 51:47

You have done this before.

unknown 51:49

Okay.

Mo 51:51

My elevator pitch worked. You didn't you didn't like leave your body when you said it either. It was like you were still like saying it with heart. Sometimes I feel like people were just immediately like Perfect