Military Wellness Collective
Military Wellness Collective is made up of four friends — two retired Marines (Joshua and Brian) turned church planters and their wives (Brittany and Kelli)— who have lived life both in uniform and on the home front. Together, we share real stories, hard-earned wisdom, and practical, biblical encouragement to help military members, and their families thrive in every season. Whether you’re navigating deployments, adjusting to life in a new town, or simply seeking hope in the middle of your military journey, our mission is to equip you with truth from God’s Word and tools for a healthy, resilient life.
Military Wellness Collective
EP 55: You Labor is Not in Vain; Finding Your Purpose While Living the Military Life
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Some days in the military feel like you’re giving your best years to work that doesn’t even matter. You’re deployed but underused, stuck in “hurry up and wait,” grinding through staff tasks that get scrapped, or holding down the home front with a thousand repetitive needs and no applause. That quiet question shows up fast: what is my purpose, and is any of this worth it?
We sit down as friends and talk through purpose in military life with honesty and hope. We explore why the military can provide an incredibly important temporary purpose, yet still leave you hungry for something deeper and eternal. We share stories from the mundane, including the frustration of work that seems wasted, and the practical mindset shift of connecting your small piece to the bigger mission. For military spouses, we unpack the whiplash of moves, short schools, interrupted careers, and the pressure to “figure it all out” quickly.
We also challenge the constant comparison of social media and the obsession with optimizing everything. Instead, we encourage finding real-life mentors, investing in church community, and learning to value ordinary faithfulness. Purpose often looks less like a spotlight and more like a lamp for the next step. If you’re craving meaning, steadiness, and a better compass for your work and your life, press play, then subscribe, share with a friend, and leave a review so more military families can find the show.
How do you think about purpose? Did this show challenge you in any way? Leave us some feedback, we would love to hear from you. You can connect with us at hello@militarywellnesscollective.com
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Welcome And Labor Day Check-In
SPEAKER_04Hey y'all. Welcome back to another episode of the Military Wellness Collective. It's me again, Brittany Brown, and I'm going to be your host walking us through this week's episode. We're really glad that you're joining us. So we thank you for taking time out of your day and hitting play on whatever podcast platform you're listening on. There's so many now. And I'm joined by my husband Joshua, if you're new with us. And then our really good friends, Kelly. Yay, Kelly's been.
SPEAKER_03Kelly Ben.
SPEAKER_04And Miss Brian. And Brian O'Day.
SPEAKER_01We've seen each other. Yeah. It hasn't been a month since we've seen Brian.
SPEAKER_04Oh my goodness. I kind of feel like we set it up unintentionally as we walk through today's recording of your labor is not in vain. Finding your purpose while living in the military life. I just want to do a quick thing just in case our system does not edit out the background noise. It is raining extremely hard here in Eastern North Carolina. Yes, along the coast, we are getting dumped on.
SPEAKER_02So we're in hurricanes.
SPEAKER_04Yes, I feel like fall. Like I could watch Gilmore girls and drink pumpkin spice.
unknownWhat?
SPEAKER_04Maybe. I know.
SPEAKER_01That's where fall gets in your mind. And I'm just trying to figure out how can I find a dry moment to cut grass?
SPEAKER_04I love it. I love it. So it's Labor Day and Happy Labor Day to everybody out there.
SPEAKER_02Happy Labor Day.
SPEAKER_04I know. Do you say that?
SPEAKER_02I don't know.
SPEAKER_04I think so. I mean, we can thank God for the jobs we have and the labor He's given us. I think that's really cool.
Temporary Duty And Eternal Purpose
SPEAKER_04So today we're just going to talk about your labor is not a main and finding your purpose while living in the military life. What does that just one liner spark in y'all's mental space? Do you have anything that comes to mind?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, just reflect on what we talked about last week with John is the the military gives us a an amazingly important temporary purpose. And we need to realize it's not that that purpose doesn't always exist while this world exists. It means like for us it's temporary, right? The military is a young person's job. And so we've gotta we've gotta find some deeper purposes while we serve in the military, doing this like really important temporary purpose thing. We need to find some deeper, longer lasting, eternal purposes as well.
SPEAKER_04That's good. Did you have something there?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I went to the inverse of purpose and thought of all the seemingly extremely boring, purposeless things that you can do in the military while you're in.
SPEAKER_04Purposeless. Is anything purposeless?
SPEAKER_02No, but it seems that way when you're doing it. And man, I have so many examples. I don't know if now's the time. You're still doing your intro, so I don't know if that was the time to jump into them or not.
SPEAKER_04I just I was reading on, I was just telling these guys before we hit go on the mics. I had read probably I can't remember if it was this episode that we were talking about doing five, but I had read like five or six articles on some psychology sites and just kind of just feeling burdened and empathetic for y'all out there that are between the ages of 18, 26, even young 30s. I was reading on some of these articles. Just, you know, the drive to know who you are and what that your life matters.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. The the feeling of purposelessness that Joshua's talking about. I think immediately as you mentioned that I'm like, yeah, there are guys who deploy to go sit and really do nothing. So they're separated from their family. They, you know, they're on this deployment, and there may be some big purpose, but they can't see it. They're sitting around doing nothing. They're like, why couldn't I sit around and do nothing back at my home duty station? Okay. And they get restricted from liberty. And so like it just feels purposeless. There are some jobs in the military that feel purposeless in the moment. They're like, I don't understand how me working on this little piece of electronics actually plays into defending freedom. I don't understand how me, you know, some of those types of things. I think on the home fronts, I think of raising kids. Like, there's so much about raising kids that is so tedious. It's like I'm packing lunches every single day, or I'm changing diapers every single day, or I'm telling kids don't eat that every single day, or whatever the case is. So like so often, if we don't if we don't have a bigger purpose, all that stuff feels meaningless.
When The Work Feels Pointless
SPEAKER_01And and honestly, the writer of Ecclesiastes would call all of that meaningless and is calling us to a higher purpose.
SPEAKER_02And we're conditioned from a very young age watching movies and playing games that always have this climax. And like even war movies, like you watch them and it shows all of the actual like action, but it never shows the literal like year of sitting around doing just waiting for the attack to happen. Because that would be a very boring movie. That is true. I mean, there's some movies out there that actually do try to show the the like tedious, boring, just slogging it out nature of doing the job.
SPEAKER_01And they're pretty movies.
SPEAKER_02A lot of critics are like, oh, this is horrible to watch. And and they're just trying to capture that because that's what military members experience. And it it's hard to it's hard to change your focus in your mind on, oh no, no, in in the mundane, in the boring is actually you can find purpose in that.
SPEAKER_04So yeah, it's just interesting, I feel, for you guys out there because you're inundated through social media platforms and just even education systems that you need to know what you're gonna be doing for the rest of your life. And it needs to matter and it needs to be so important. Yes, yes because our in the influencer culture has overtaken the younger generations compared to what we experienced coming out of high school. Just the everybody needs to have over a hundred thousand followers, or you're not significant in the world. And so just trying to find who you guys are, and then you're serving in the military, which can sometimes, like these men are saying, feel pointless and you're not seeing the big aim. But we want to call you guys back to truth and to God's word and to building that foundation on Christ, like that is where the purpose is. Like you are not in this job for no reason. Like you're being called the steward this life. I had read something about like less doesn't mean it's less significant. Do you guys have any thoughts on that? Like these jobs that you're talking about that might feel like they're not as important. What would you say to those young Marines and their spouses if they have wives that are listening? Because as a wife, there were days in Joshua's first four years of the Marine Corps where if he wasn't deployed in Iraq, he was home rolling tires from one side of the parking lot back and then back to the other and then back. And I was like, what?
SPEAKER_03Why can't you just be home? Yeah.
Connecting Small Tasks To Mission
SPEAKER_02So I know a guy who worked at the Pentagon. I know his job was to create like a paper to explain a scenario for a situation that they were currently working towards. And so he would write out all of the things, do all this research, figure out how to do a thing in whatever part of the world and how it would work out. And he would spend hours and hours and hours and days and days and days, late nights and everything, like figuring it all out. And then after like two to three months of work on this project, he's going to go turn it in and to give it to the guy who asked for it at the deadline. And the guy was just like, Oh, actually, we've changed course and we're doing this instead. Oh, garbage. And everything you just did means nothing. And it was like, and then the next day he would get another assignment. And then two months later, the same thing would happen. Yeah, that is the definition of staff work.
SPEAKER_01So in staff work, you churn out stuff, most of which will never be used. Like the vast majority of it will never be used. Yeah, I I think I'd encourage so if you find yourself in one of those menial things, I I think it can be helpful to try to figure out how it fits into the bigger picture of the job. Because I I will contend that the military job is really, really important. And even if you feel like you have some really small piece of the puzzle, we need you to do that, and we need you to do that well. And one of the ways for you to do that well and to do that well long term might be to put it into a bigger context as far as the actual mission. And so I you know, I had this weird example come to mind. So when I was in college, I re-roofed chicken houses. I know it was a weird job. That is so interesting. 700-foot-long chicken houses.
SPEAKER_04Oh, so you're talking like industrial chicken houses.
SPEAKER_01Industrial making the little ones.
SPEAKER_04Okay.
SPEAKER_01And so old rusted tin roofs, we would pull nails, take off the old rusted tin, put on new like purlings in the rafters, and then put on new shiny tin. 700 foot long. And it was me and one other guy most days doing this 700 foot long. So, I mean, it would take us weeks to do one chicken house, maybe even most of a summer to do one chicken house. Anyway, I forget. But that was like the definition of tedium. Like it was the most tedious job ever. But that was helping people to be able to walk into a grocery store and buy Purdue chicken, right? Just go in and buy it. That was me re-roofing those chicken houses helped feed a bunch of people. Now, I didn't think that as a 19-year-old, 20-year-old, but if I could have tied that in and be like, man, I'm helping feed people. I didn't think that. I was like, hey, I'm getting a paycheck and I'm gonna, I wonder what the all the cool stuff I'm gonna spend the money on. And so can you do that? Like, can you kind of connect the dots for the temporary purpose in it? And then even more importantly, as a Christian, can we see, okay, how can I redeem this time? If I'm in a tedious, seemingly pointless job, how can I redeem the time? I was reminded that one of our pastor friends was talking about this concept. He's like, hey, in the military, we we hurry up and wait. We're always waiting. He's like, but we're waiting next to non-Christians who have like these big questions in life. And so he was talking about what he likes to do. He's still in the reserves. He's like, What he likes to do is talk about Jesus and like ask people the big existential questions and use those opportunities to make disciples. And so looking for those things. Another one that a guy he was stocking grocery shelves, and he's Icelander, and he was stocking grocery shelves and he was listening to podcasts about church planting while he's stocking grocery shelves, and the Lord used that to lead him to plant a church in Iceland, which is a place that needs lots of new churches. And so, like, how can I redeem the time? How can I get an eternal purpose in it? But also, can I connect it to the the bigger kind of earthly purpose as well? To me, those are kind of the two big realms for finding purpose in the tedium. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04Kelly, do you have anything on that?
A Military Spouse Searching For Place
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I don't know. As I was reflecting about, I don't know, you military guys, like your but just thinking about being a military wife. Like when I married Brian, I kind of not gave up my well, in a way, it just changed. What I wanted to do in life had shifted. And I I struggled with like what is my place here? Like, what am what is it supposed to look like? And you don't have kind of the time to make decisions because when we first got married, I joined him to go to like a four to five month school. So it didn't, I remember like talking through it, like I don't really have time to start a class here. Like to, I was finishing my degree. Do I get a job, part-time job, full-time job? We're only here four to five months. You know, it was just like, what do I do? What is this supposed to look like? And what's cool though is that I can see, because then, you know, when we moved to the next place, it was similar. I mean, I did finish my degree. I taught a year, but then we had to move again. And just how the Lord used all the little things that I felt like, I don't know, is this important? Is this good? Like, I don't know. It's I don't know. And I think, I mean, part of it is just like looking to the Lord to help you grow into that and like learn more about that. And as I grew in the Lord, like I don't know, I can look back and just see how he used my part-time jobs and my full-time job as a full-time nanny. You know, just like all these different things that I thought were me just finding something to do, just leading me to where he has me today. I don't know. It's just really cool.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I would encourage folks. That's a great example, kind of your life of doing you're like, I don't really know what my purpose is, but then you just did good things, right?
SPEAKER_00You you didn't know not to be lazy because I think when there's not a time where I could really maybe do a career job because we weren't gonna be there long. Wow. I wanted to be a good steward of my time. Right. Um Yeah.
SPEAKER_01So you did find a part-time job. You like helped at the daycare at the church in that five-month period of time, then you finished your degree, then you started school knowing we're about to move. Or you started teaching. You taught one full school year, and so you're like, why did I ever do that? Well, now you're back in the classroom teaching 15 years later, 15 later, 20 years later now, but when you started, it was like 14, 15 years later. So, like, I would encourage you may not know like big giant life purpose in your 20s. That's okay. Do good things. Like the opposite would be trying to find the end of YouTube, right?
SPEAKER_03Like, there's no end of it.
SPEAKER_01There's more there is more content produced and published today on YouTube than you could watch in your entire life. That's a real fact. That's not a hyperbole, that's true. Every single day, there's more content published on YouTube than you could consume in your entire life. You will not find the end of it. Don't even try. Find good things to do. Go to school, finish a degree, get a job, you know, do something.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and one thing I would encourage just as a wife to a military spouse, like one of I think your purpose is to support your husband in any way that you can for him to do his job because he's doing an important thing, even though he may be struggling with is it important, is it not? Encourage him that it is, yeah. Right. Encourage him, make a home for him to come home to that's safe and loving and inviting. That's good.
Who You’re Becoming Matters Most
SPEAKER_04All of this reminds me of your word is a lamp unto my feet and a light unto my path. And with the purpose discussion, it makes me think like God does not promise to reveal the whole path. It's not a stadium light where he lights it up and he's like, This is where I'm taking you. No, it's one step at a time. And each step has a purpose that's taking us along the path to lead us to eternal glory eventually, right? Like as I hear you talk, Kelly, I hear a journey. It's for sure. And I think of my own personal life and where we started, I would have never imagined that this is where it would end up. Like, or and it makes me so excited, like, well, what's to come? Right. And I think as I like read about the young people's struggle, about y'all out there struggling with like purpose, it breaks my heart a little bit because we struggle with that too in our 40s.
SPEAKER_00We want to say, hang tight. Yes, keep your eyes on the Lord. It is the word of the Lord.
SPEAKER_04Remain faithful because purpose is so much greater than like what your job title is. Friends, that's just an opportunity that God's given you to live out your purpose in. And I think in our current culture and climate, we have gotten that backwards. Like whatever I'm doing is my purpose instead of who am I becoming, that is the purpose. Like so I just want to encourage y'all out there, like wrestle with that. Like in what what I'm working at, who am I becoming in this?
SPEAKER_01That is so powerful. It is more important who I'm becoming than what I'm doing.
SPEAKER_04Yes.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and what I'm doing is actually forming me into who I am. That is so powerful.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, because I think if we ask that question every day, like, okay, have this whole to-do list, right? If you're in the military, you know you're gonna get up early, you're gonna go to work, it might feel pointless to you. Then you're gonna come home. Like Brian said, he needs to mow his grass. You might need to mow your grass, you might need to do something. You have this whole list of things, but it's important to ask who am I becoming, and then how does that fit? Some of that stuff might just need to go, not your job or whatever. But yeah.
Comparison Culture And Real-Life Mentors
SPEAKER_00And I think if if you're struggling in that, like asking the question, like, what am I being influenced by? Because that's so good. You touched on the social media platform. Like, I think that's such a big deal. I can look back in some seasons where I struggled with my identity, my purpose, and I was doing a lot of comparing of what I saw, and I was in an uncomfortable spot where I just was struggling with different things. And I was comparing to somebody that, you know, is just like look so much better, even though I didn't really know. It's not a real picture when you what you see on social media. So just making sure that you're asking that question as well. Like, what where am I being influenced? Like, what am I being drawn towards where I'm being, you know, discontent here because I want what? What do I want?
SPEAKER_02You know, and that comparison is so much more palpable pal palatable. No, not palpable, palpable today. That's the word oh yes. It's so much more potent today. Different people. Because it used to be, you know, you go to the grocery store, you see another mom with her kid, and her kid's acting all nice, and yours is like picking his nose and throwing them. It's like something weird's happening. So you're you're trying to you're comparing when you go out and you see other people. Now people are piped in to your phone, to your screens every day, all day. And if you let it, you just will try to find the end of Pinterest and try to be this Pinterest mom and like compare everything to our Insta chat. No, and so you just not a big thing anymore.
SPEAKER_00Maybe TikTok and Instagram or TikTok. That's what I talk about.
SPEAKER_04TikTok 30-second reels. Y'all are watching. Yeah. Research it, friends.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, curate your influencers. So currently, what is being put in front of you in the social media, YouTube, TikTok, all the things you just said, a program, a computer program is curating what comes to the top, like what you're looking at. And so instead, what God would encourage us to do is actually find people. It would call it, like in the book of Hebrews, it's going to call it leaders. Look, obey your leaders and look to their manner of life. It's actually telling us to be influenced by leaders in our church, in our gatherings. And so find some people in your actual life who you're like, man, there's some aspects of their life that I want to follow. They're actual life, actual human beings that you actually know and can like. They'll answer your call when you call them, they'll answer your text when you text them. You could maybe go to their house or they could come to your house. You could meet them at coffee in your town. Like these types of things. Find people who are ahead of you in the military life, or ahead of you in the mom life, or ahead of you in the parenting season, or whatever the case is, or in the marriage life. Find people and you're like, man, you know what? They seem like they have a good marriage. Man, I like some of the ways they parent. I need to hang around them more. That is going to be better than like, man, I really like, you know, person X on this platform and they're really funny and they really, you know, whatever they hype me up to wake up at some crazy hour and jump into a cold lunge or whatever the case is. Like, we just find actual people to be. Influencers to use that word. But again, the scriptures would say look to your leaders and follow their way of life.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, but so finding real people in in the wild, not out in in cyberspace, because those people have beauty filters on. Those people have taken many takes and actually cut things out and didn't actually publish everything. Like you're not except for us here. We don't edit anything. Nope.
SPEAKER_03Just the background noise, hopefully. Just scary.
SPEAKER_02We've had some thunder and some lightning going as well. Hopefully it doesn't go through, but it is what it is.
SPEAKER_04Oh, go ahead.
SPEAKER_02You guys were all while you guys were bringing up scripture and all these spiritual things. My mind was not there. I just wanted to share.
SPEAKER_04Okay.
SPEAKER_02My mind went to Mom's Night Out. Oh, the movie. Yeah. Yes.
SPEAKER_04Okay.
SPEAKER_00That's dated for these young people.
SPEAKER_02Y'all. Mom's Night Out. Man, it is so good. Like the purpose at the end of it, like the whole culmination of it. Man, should I give it away? Spoiler alert. If you're you want to watch the movie and you want to, if you don't want to meet a ruinous.
SPEAKER_04We do not advocate all things in the movie.
SPEAKER_02Sure.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Okay.
SPEAKER_02I mean, it's it is it is good. It is pretty good. Anyway.
SPEAKER_04I think it depicts a mom's brain well. Like what's happening. It's a little dramatic, but I can resonate. Yeah, but I can resonate with them like heightening like everything she's feeling and thinking.
SPEAKER_02She's trying to find her purpose and whether or not what she's doing is good, right, important. And at the end, her husband just affirms that for her, and she realizes, like, oh yes, me raising these kids, doing what I'm doing, is truly important, and for the good and right reasons. So I my mind went there when you guys went to scripture and ecclesiastes and all these things.
Ordinary Faithfulness And Slowing Down
SPEAKER_02You're so much more spiritual.
SPEAKER_04Well, you saying that actually makes me think of something that I've had to wrestle with a lot in life is like ordinary. We need to bring back the word ordinary.
SPEAKER_00It's okay or social media worthy, like to impress optimal because and get likes because that's what we feel like we should produce, I guess. Yes. The ordinary is so good.
SPEAKER_04I just feel like y'all are living in a generation and we like we're kind of on the cusp of like smartphones coming in, but y'all have grown up with them out there. Like and don't really probably remember a lot of life without them. Um and you're being sold like this optimization. Everything needs to be optimized. My health needs to be optimized, my looks need to be optimized, my family needs to be optimized. Yes, sleep hygiene. That's a new term I heard recently. Like all this, like everything must be the best. And it must be big and grand and great to share. And then I have to show you my three-hour beauty routine.
SPEAKER_01But here's the thing another word, I like the word ordinary, another biblical word is faithful.
SPEAKER_03Yes.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Am I being faithful to what God has called me to do? Yeah. That's it.
SPEAKER_00And sometimes I think as I've talked about this with young people, it looks boring to the world. But that is okay.
SPEAKER_04And boring is where great ideas I mean.
SPEAKER_00We need to be bored. That's like the word that they struggle with. Like it seems boring. Like, yeah, but that is where your life is full and you find joy. And that's where you meet the Lord.
SPEAKER_01Just a couple practical things. Get the doggone earbuds, airpods, whatever, out of your ears. Right. Go for a walk.
SPEAKER_04A nature walk with no tech.
SPEAKER_01No tech. Leave the phone at home. Leave the watch at home. Like you can just you can just be. Take a break from social media. Go sit outside and just be. Yes.
SPEAKER_04Read long form content.
SPEAKER_01Read long form. Yeah. Read a book. Read a long article.
SPEAKER_04Annotate it. Do we know what that word means?
SPEAKER_01Annot.
SPEAKER_00Now that's a that's too far, guys. Oh, okay. Do a do you get it?
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_00I mean, I'm kind of not getting it.
SPEAKER_01Grab a grab a grab a pencil and paper. So next time you have a math problem you have to do, and you're about to pull out your calculator.
SPEAKER_00Too far for me.
SPEAKER_01You do the math problem.
SPEAKER_00And you're like, I'd much rather do the math problem than annotate.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I wonder what 125 times 83 is. And you like do it the old-fashioned way. Oh, that's fun for me. Just slow yourself down. Slow yourself down. And and the Lord actually speaks into that. We, you know, there's the there's the passage, He is the still small voice, and we have to create this space to hear from the Lord. You know, we're talking about purpose. One of the one of the passages that I thought of was Proverbs 20 and verse 5. The purpose in a man's heart is like deep water, but a man of understanding will draw it out. And so that's good for ourselves to process through. We use that word a lot in the last episode with John. We need to process through things. And then we can also ask good questions with other people and process out. Like, okay, how did how did this affect this and everything else?
Final Encouragement Plus Book Picks
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I just want to encourage you guys as you serve in the military, whether you're the spouse of the service member or you're the service member, that your labor's not empty. Like this isn't a wasted four years or a wasted time, and you're looking to something better. There's purpose in what you're doing right now, even if like Kelly mentioned the word boring, even if it seems like Brian used the word slow. Joshua talked about meaning what seems mundane, but those things are not bad things. There's there's great opportunity to share the Lord in those spaces. And your purpose ultimately, we talked about this on the last episode, is to glorify God and enjoy Him. It is to honor Him with your entire life. It's not for you to be something amazing. Actually, Christ calls us to die to ourselves and that we need to become less and he needs to be more. So your labor is not in vain. It's for purpose.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, it's good. One book, I don't think we've ever recommended this book on this podcast, which is crazy. Don't waste your life by John Piper. It's a it's a little bit of a dated book, but it's so good. Don't waste your life. Like just and and again, you may be surprised what that actually looks like. It may look like you you work a job that seems a little tedious to you.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Yeah, that's really good.
SPEAKER_02Brian's recommended spiritual books, some recommended mom's night out. Uh this is it's great.
SPEAKER_04Well, guys, we are coming to the end of the episode. Is there anything else y'all want to say to our friends who are listening? Any other recommendations besides mom's night out and don't waste your life?
SPEAKER_02Just keep your priorities straight. Focus on God, love your family well, find a church and love your church well.
SPEAKER_04I just had something come to my mind. So I have to say it. It reminds purpose reminds me of us trying to figure out the will of God. Like when we're trying to figure out purpose, we're looking for the will of God. So I'm gonna put in the show notes a very small, small book by R. C. Sprawl. And it's talking about can you know the will of God? Because sometimes what I think we're doing is we're looking for what I like to call the secret will of God, like the Vegas light show to tell us where to go instead of actually following the commanded will of God that we see. Surrendering. Yeah, surrender, which is a whole other episode. But as you struggle through like, what's my purpose? Maybe you're really struggling with like, is this really the will of God for me? So I'm gonna throw that in there too, if that is a helpful resource to any of you all out there that might be wrestling through that.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_04All right, y'all. Well, we're gonna end today. We love you guys. We thank you for tuning in with us. If you have things you want us to chat about, go ahead and email us. You can do that to hello at military wellness collective.com, and we will respond and hopefully address whatever you want us to talk about right here on the podcast. We'll see you guys back here next Monday.