Kristen Toomey - Big Top Pee-wee/Kill Bill 023

This week on Core Memory, Cortney chats with comedian Kristen Toomey about Big Top Pee-Wee (1988) and Kill Bill (2003)!

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SPEAKER_00 0:00

Just that innocence of like not wanting to go there. Um, and yeah, I mean, if he would have got laid, maybe he wouldn't need a talking chair.

SPEAKER_01 0:31

Yay. Well, hello, audience. Welcome back to Core Memory, a podcast about movies. I'm your host, Courtney Warner, and I'm stoked, so stoked this week to bring a very special guest. She's an absolutely hilarious comedian. She's crushing it all over the country. You've seen her on Netflix as a joke. You've seen her with oh, you've seen her at South by Southwest. You've seen her comedy specials. You've seen her on Don't Tell. Absolutely incredible comedian. Please welcome everybody. Kristen Toomey. Hey. Oh, oh my God, Kristen. I'm so excited you're on here. Thank you for being here.

SPEAKER_00 1:03

Thank you for having me. I was just saying I adore you and I think you're so funny. And I'm so happy to be chatting with you. And so thank you for having me.

SPEAKER_01 1:14

Of course. And truly, the feeling is so mutual. It's so likewise. I'm excited to be hanging out. Uh, how are you doing? What's been going on?

SPEAKER_00 1:22

I'm good, dude. I just um I've been doing a lot of Zooms. This is my third one today. Um, I'm doing some meetings and um I'm hosting the Chicago Emmys coming up.

SPEAKER_01 1:34

Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:36

Next week. And so just getting the monologue ready and stuff like that. And um, yeah, something a little out of my week comfort zone.

SPEAKER_01 1:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:48

A big event like that. And um so I'm excited uh for the challenge. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:54

So do you have a team of writers that you're working with on the monologue? Are you writing it purely yourself? Or how's that how does that work out?

SPEAKER_00 1:59

So I have two friends, uh, Jim Flanagan and Maggie T'Paolo. Um, they both just did Maitland down by you. Oh, yeah, their names sounds super familiar.

SPEAKER_01 2:09

So that must be where I I saw I I've seen their names. That's cool.

SPEAKER_00 2:12

Yeah. So they helped me write it. And then um I wrote it for like eight minutes. We wrote it for like eight minutes, but it turns out I only need like four and a half. So when I found that, I was like, oh my gosh, this is so easy.

SPEAKER_02 2:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:25

No, you know, um, knock on wood. But so yeah, it's um should be pretty good. We've got a couple bits in between. Yeah. Well, the show's kind of long. So um yeah, it's something that you know, I feel like I've been doing this 17 years next month. Wow, yeah. And I don't think I would have gotten a gig like this until just now, really. I think I was a little too wild for or rough for something like this until now. So it's nice they're trusting me to do it.

SPEAKER_01 2:59

Yeah. No, there is something. Also, congratulations on your almost anniversary. My nine years will be in January as well. Or no, in January, so a month after you, um, or two months after you, or after you're I'm thinking, like for some reason, I think we're in December. It's only October. What the fuck? I don't know what's going on.

SPEAKER_00 3:15

I don't know when we are, but it doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_01 3:17

It doesn't, you know what? It doesn't actually fucking matter, honestly, at this point.

SPEAKER_00 3:20

Like it's only one day or whatever they say.

SPEAKER_01 3:22

Literally. And so but I I like that you said that like, you know, you wouldn't have gotten this gig until at this point in your career. Cause I think there are things that like you are like, oh, I I should have this now, like year one, you know what I mean? It's like, no, like maybe not. And I I've been hitting getting hit with that realization, you know, coming in on nine years as well, where I'm just like, yeah, things are working out now. Earlier, I was a hot mess. There was no reason why things should have worked out earlier, you know?

SPEAKER_00 3:47

Yeah. And it's almost like you get to the point where you go, oh, thank God I didn't get that then or at all. Yeah. And, you know, there's some things where it's like you think that's what you want, and then you see people get it and they're fucking miserable, and you're like, oh man, that's not that's not where it's at at all. So I do think everything that's meant for you will find you, and we do have to be patient. But you know what? You also need that false sense of delusion where you think it's just on the corner at all times to keep going.

SPEAKER_01 4:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 4:21

You need that carrot on the stick because if somebody would have said to me, like, yeah, it's gonna be this number of years before you get this thing, yeah, you know, like South by, I gave up on that dream. That was when I first started something I wanted.

SPEAKER_01 4:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 4:36

And then I gave up on that, completely forgot about it, and then I got it. So it's like, but you know, if you would have said to me year one, like, yeah, that's not gonna happen until you're 16 years in, I would have said, I'm fucking quitting, you know.

SPEAKER_01 4:49

Yeah, no, and that's beautiful. That's like, oh, this is the goal that you had, and then it finally happened. Like it is, you know, like it I think for for our for comedians, it's not like you know, like it's just how your endurance level, you know what I mean? Because once because it just kind of like things will happen. Isn't that crazy? It's a marathon, and every everything in entertainment kind of is, but like I think we are we luck out as comedians that the older you get, the better you get, you know what I mean? And the more and the more people are like, Yeah, you have something to say. I want to hear that, you know.

SPEAKER_00 5:16

So yeah, that's sort of like what's happening with me right now, too. And I just finally got management, and that was kind of what they were saying. It's I think I had to age into my act and the authority that I have up there. Yeah, it comes, you know, naturally, but it it comes out better from somebody that's older, yeah, than like a 28-year-old, you know, telling you so yeah, there is something to that. Um there's certain certain acts, especially that better get better with age, you know. You think like Don Rickles or somebody like that? Yeah, like that looks so much better coming out of a seasoned person.

SPEAKER_01 5:56

Oh, for sure. I could not imagine like a 19-year-old, like, I'm doing comedy for the first time, and like coming mean Don Rickles. Oh my god, that would be awful. Yeah, it's just sort of like, look at this asshole, you know.

SPEAKER_00 6:07

Yeah, yeah. Oh my God. So there is something to that, and I do think, you know, just happy to be still doing it. I think when I quit for a while, I quit for a year, and um, I was always kind of like half in, half out. And I think coming back, I just realized like this is the rest of my life. This is I'm gonna be doing this. Yeah. There isn't this panic, this rush of like, I need to get X, Y, Z right now, you know? Sort of just like, it's gonna go up and down, and I I know that now.

SPEAKER_01 6:39

Yeah, and that's such a beautiful thing too, where you're like, I'm doing gonna do this the rest of my life. And it's like a relief in a way of just like, oh, you found you found the love of your life, you know, and I'm yeah, and that's how I feel about it too, where I'm like, I'm gonna do this in some variation till the day I die. And so it's it is kind of a nice, like, like, oh, I most people search their whole lives to find that thing, you know?

SPEAKER_00 6:59

Yeah, and I think I fought that for so long just because I'm such a commitment phobe anyway. Yeah, yeah. Um, and I didn't like the fact of like needing something or you know, like to put it like a person, like a relationship, I didn't like to feel like that, but I just had to kind of face facts because when I quit, I was still doing crowd work in the car to the car next to me on my way to work, you know. Yeah, it's just like who I am. And when you take the comedy away, I'm just sort of just weird and nuts, and it doesn't make any sense to be this.

SPEAKER_01 7:34

Dude, dude, yeah, I feel you where it's just like, oh no, this is I need an outlet, or else I'm gonna be a menace to society.

SPEAKER_00 7:42

Yes, exactly. Like, oh, I found a place where this fits, and now I'm not just a bitch, you know.

SPEAKER_01 7:48

Literally, I'm like, oh, okay, so I have yeah, I have an outlet to like get my grievances out, and I'm not just terrorizing my friends and family, you know. I feel you on that. Oh well, uh well, Kristen, I'm so glad you're here. Uh, an audience, Kristen brought us two movies tonight. Uh, her first one she ever remembers seeing is Big Top Pee-wee. And then her favorite movie as an adult is Kill Bill. Uh, what a hell of a combo. I we're gonna find some correlations there. There are some, I think. Yeah. So let's start off with Big Top Pee-wee for some stats, audience. So Big Top Pee-wee came out in 1988, uh, directed by Randall Kleiser, starring Paul Rubens and Chris Christofferson, Susan Tyrell. Uh, so Kristen, can you tell me about the first time you saw this movie?

SPEAKER_00 8:33

Um, I don't have like a specific memory, but here's the thing about this movie is like I watched this movie when I say every day for probably years. Yeah. Looking because I I get like I get obsessive. I don't like very many things just in general. I eat the same food all the time. I like if I like something, I really like it. Um, but again, like I didn't know the director. You know, I don't like I can't tell you like album names of stuff, you know what I mean? I just remember the feelings that give me and um so something about this movie, it was so funny to me. He, I mean, I loved Pee-Wee. You know, I love Pee-Wee's big adventure, but something about this movie we had the VHS, and I just remember just watching it obsessively, and I mean I knew every word, and I would like there's a scene where he's he goes in to get a cheese sand sandwich, yeah, and um I would have to like make a make a cheese sandwich and eat a pickle like with him. Oh and it's so funny because my son is 17 now, but when he was little, he was like this with Jurassic Park. Oh, yeah. So he totally got that from me because I was like that with this movie, yeah. And um so I just remember like being in our basement, you know, just watching this movie all the time. And my brother, my kids quote this movie, yeah. Like my anybody that's really close to me will throw a line from this movie at me because they know it's such a part of me, you know. I think there's something about it too where because I was trying, I knew we were gonna talk about it, so I was trying to like think like why I loved it so much. And I think there was something about the fact that he's like alone, the town fucking hates him, right? Like when the town does not want him there, nobody likes him. He's friends with his pig.

unknown 10:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:00

His pig talks, and just any pee-wee morning routine gets me jazzed. I love I love that whole sequence. Um, I love it in the first one, I love it in this one. And so there's something very lonely about him. And me loving him, I just didn't understand why and why people didn't like him. Now, as an adult, I can see why he would be really obnoxious. Right. But I was so on his side that I was like, these people are out of their mind. Like, why wouldn't they just love this guy? And um, then the circus comes to town and it's like they don't even fucking accept him.

SPEAKER_01 11:39

Which is wild because they that is their whole thing, you know.

SPEAKER_00 11:44

I know you've got all these, you know, uh strange people, and they don't even and he's trying to figure out how to get in with them. And then of course, finally he does, but it was just, I guess, something about being that outsider resonated with me, and yeah, always has, and so that's probably some of it. And he just the creativity of it, the little the hot dog tree, the science aspect to it. Um yeah, I just and I adore Paul Rubens. Oh yeah, R.I.P. I know he's just one of those people in my life. That character is like an actual like person to me, you know? Yeah, yeah. So yeah, the egg salad, my favorite scene, the funniest scene to me is the egg salad scene. Oh, yeah, yes. He's on a lunch date, and I just love like his calendar. It only says like lunch with Winnie. Yeah, but he has to still check it. Yes, you know, it's like that kind of bit I always love. And then he's he hates the, you know, he's guessing all the things like turkeyella king, and he's guessing all these things, fried chicken, yeah. And it's that the worst possible option is an egg salad sandwich, and he gets it, and he he takes one bite and he throws it, and then he's laying on her lap. Yeah, it starts dripping on his face, yes, and his reaction to that, because it's like a little bit, yeah, and then he's doing this big glot, and it just I mean, it still to this day makes me laugh. I just love it.

SPEAKER_01 13:33

It's so funny. And even in that scene too, where he like tries to run his hands through Winnie's hair, and she's just like, oh, ow, ow, and he like it's it gets it's it's so funny. I'm just like, how is she engaged to this man as an adult watching? Like, why is she engaged to this man? You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 13:48

I know, and it's just so goofy, yeah. So much goofiness and silliness to Pee-Wee that I adore. Yeah. Because um, there is that part of me I feel like I'm very I can be very silly and goofy, and I sort of like um I like that humor of like, you know, would he take things very seriously. And it's almost like I I think that that's that's fun, that's always fun. Um, so yeah, I think I just like the creativity and the goofiness of it.

SPEAKER_01 14:28

Yeah. Yeah, I get you. I I'm with you on that too, because it's like he kind of reminds me, and you know, and maybe it's the character and like how he keeps getting all these like beautiful women to love him, but he kind of reminds me of like, or maybe the blueprint for like a lot of Tim Robinson's characters, you know what I mean? Yes, dude.

SPEAKER_00 14:45

There is a very strong correlation because that's so that's such a good observation. He is he does have a lot of pee-wee qualities, yeah. But it's said in like real life, right? And in modern times, and there's and it's obviously more grounded than peewee, but there is that same quality, and I think he's wonderful. I think he's so talented, brilliant, so funny, but that's a great observation, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:16

Oh, thank you. I was thinking that when I was watching this today, because I'd seen all the Pee-Wee movies as a kid, you know, and I just haven't I I hadn't rewatched, I hadn't watched Big Top in a long time, and I was like, this is like Tim Robinson, but like for kids, you know what I mean? And like, which I think maybe is why maybe there's such a nostalgic quality to Tim's comedy, too, where it just feels so like like, oh, like it's kind of chipper and cheer because he has no fucking idea what's going on, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 15:41

That's one of my favorite types of comedy. Is like, have you ever seen the movie um The Man Who Knew Too Little with Bill Murray? Yes. Oh, yeah, yeah. That's a great one. That movie is so such another one that is like there's a scene where you know, he doesn't know in that movie, he doesn't know that he's actually in like a crime situation. He thinks it's like a play that is in real life that his brother paid for him to be in. And so he's gotta he's got a real gun and he doesn't know it's a real gun. And he's like, the confidence of like when you think it's a joke, but it's a real dire situation, yeah, is my favorite thing.

SPEAKER_01 16:25

It's so funny.

SPEAKER_00 16:26

The confidence, it's like I actually pray that I can move through life like that, where that's the kind of spirit I can bring to like situations that I I don't even realize the danger. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 16:40

Dude, that I mean, I ignorance is bliss, as they say. I'm like, man, I wish I were just more ignorant, honestly.

SPEAKER_00 16:47

I know, I know. That's I mean, honestly, it's almost like because I mean, we're we're really called not to be afraid anyway. So it's like, you know, if you can, whatever it takes to not be afraid, if it takes ignorance, fine. Yeah, don't have courage, ignorance is a good substitute.

SPEAKER_01 17:07

Absolutely. So uh so you touched on this already a little bit, but like, how do you feel that Pee-wee, big top Pee-wee impacted you as a kid? Obviously, it very much impacted you with comedy, but like like how did it kind of change your childhood or change how you looked at the world?

SPEAKER_00 17:26

Well, um I think just honestly, the I think the example of seeing an adult be so silly and be so um I think that's such a huge lesson actually, because you don't see very many, you know, you'll see cartoons that are silly, or you'll see other kids that are silly or kids' shows, but it was like watching an adult just being silly. And also there was some creativity about Pee-wee's playhouse, Pee Wee, all of his movies um that I that really like had me awestruck. Like even his you know, tin can phone, which is like time, like literally what we're doing. Yes. I actually was thinking I should get like an empty can of vegetables for when on a zoom. Yes. But like the backdrops, he had all of that, yeah. And um, the way he would make his breakfast in the movie, and and that kind of like setting up your house in a way that is reflecting who you are, you know, and like parts of your like his personality was so big, it just spilled out onto the room. And yeah, and that was like just incredible to me. It still is. I'm like in awe of that kind of living, uh, or that idea. Yeah. And um, yeah, I just I I'm not sure exactly what did it, but I just think it was everything. I think he just, you know, he was like um like a dear friend as a kid, you know what I mean? Like that was kind of like my my buddy and my hero in a way. And um yeah, just almost reminding me like you don't have to really get rid of this part of you. You can kind of bring it in with you, you know?

SPEAKER_01 19:48

Yeah, no, I feel you on that too. And like I just I remember thinking like as a kid too, when I was watching these movies, I was just like, man, it's like, oh, an adult is having fun, and an adult has a has talks to a pet pig and they talk back, and it's just like because you because you know, like you see adults and they're all very serious, and like in movies they're all very serious, and it just like really I feel that too. It very much inspiring me to be like, well, why can't things just be a little whimsical? You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 20:13

Yeah, and you know, he's like talking to his chair, he's talking to like um things are his friends because he's in this lonely world, and it's I think I can just relate to that very much.

SPEAKER_01 20:27

Um I I certainly can now, and I I think I could then even Yeah, and that was kind of leading into my next question, which you already kind of got to as well. But it's like, so how does this movie impact you now as an adult? Now that like you kind of can see some of the subtext and foreshadowing in these movies. I'm curious, like, how does this differ from you as a kid to you as an adult? Because you I you I know that you said that you love the movie still.

SPEAKER_00 20:51

Oh yeah, I I do. Um you know, I think like I said, yeah, I think it's more about um I I think when I was a kid, I didn't really see the part about him being so in need of like a friend himself, you know. And um to the point of creating all this whole world just to feel um connected. And that I can certainly relate to, I think, in a kind of deep, profound way. And um maybe maybe I'm like that because of him. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 21:36

Yeah, no, I feel you because yeah, like like you'd mentioned earlier, like it is just he there is a lot of loneliness there where there is a kind of that darker undertone to these movies because you watch, like, oh, it's fun, and he has a circus and he has a fun house, but it's like he had to create all of that because nobody liked him, and even though he did yeah, I'm just like, God, that fucking sucks.

SPEAKER_00 21:55

And yeah, and then also like um. Even that scene, you know, when he's trying to get in the circus, yeah. He's trying all the things, you know, he's trying the trapeze and it's not working. And he's trying to type whatever it is. And um that very much feels like, you know, trying to get into show business. I think that there's a parallel there where it's like, am I gonna get this thing? No, I'm not. So it's like back to the, you know, this didn't work, so you try this. And so maybe there's some of that. And I also can relate to obviously in in big top pee wee, he's dating. Yes, which is uh unusual for Pee-Wee. Yeah. Because Pee-wee sort of ace, you know what I mean? Is a little ace totally and there's an element to that that I can relate to as well, you know what I mean? It's like having no just kind of being like grossed out by that, yeah. Like not really interested in it, but um just that innocence of like not wanting to go there, right? Um and yeah, I mean, if he would have got laid, maybe he wouldn't need a talking chair, but it's like that's the that's the that's the sound clip, that's the clip. But you know, there is something about that too where I'm like, yeah, I could I could see that being um and yeah, I think it was cool that he found love. You know, they show like when he gets laid, there's like a train going into the tunnel and like a explosion. And he's like, the calolilies are in bloom again. You know, he's like that. I remember thinking as a kid, like when you had sex, like that's what you felt or something, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 23:56

And then of course it didn't happen, and I was like, wait, yeah, why aren't the calolilies in bloom right now? Why do they all die when this happened?

SPEAKER_00 24:07

I'm just sore and I feel awkward, right?

SPEAKER_01 24:10

Yeah, and now I have this man here.

SPEAKER_00 24:16

Um but yeah, I think also, I don't know what I think about it now. Uh the the supporting cast is great. Like I didn't know that was Chris Christopherson. I didn't know who that was when I was seven, but yeah, you know, now I'm like, wow, that that was really cool. And he's got some funny scenes, you know, him and Pee-wee on the wagon, and Pee Wee's just like, what do you mean, Mace? And he's getting like the serious conversation. Um so yeah, I think that's always um fun to go back. Also, if if you're talking about like Danny Elfman music-wise, one um, you know, the moot the music is such a big part of that first movie, the Pee-Wee movie.

SPEAKER_01 25:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:09

It really, I mean, it's incredible. The Tim Burton, Danny Elfman team on that first one. Yeah. And then you throw Pee-Wee in, it's like a incredible, you know?

SPEAKER_01 25:21

Yeah, it's like a it's like a like a lightning in a bottle with those three, because it's just like their sensibilities all made sense with each other. Like the humor, and it's kind of it's slightly, slight, slightly left of center, but it's still like for kids, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 25:34

Well, and it's so interesting because you know, like Pee-wee was there is some darkness and like uh very also um like queerness about Pee-Wee. Yes, that was you know, actually very familiar to me when I was a kid. Like my mom kind of took in a lot of young gays in my in my house, and yeah, you know, so I mean that was nothing unusual for me, but maybe that was something that felt familiar. And I just think that I don't think that that made me like it more or dislike it or uncomfortable. I just think it made it more familiar, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, like I I enjoyed that aspect of it. I still do. I feel like um yeah, I mean, he's such an icon, and uh yeah, there's so much there too. I was trying to think of who was reminding me of Pee-wee. I'll think of it. Yeah, but there was somebody else that I was thinking is like a modern day, not Tim Robbins. That's such a great call. Oh, thank you.

SPEAKER_01 26:52

I just I was re-watching Detroiters uh this past weekend, and then uh then and I've watched been watching The Chair Company and all that too, and then watching this movie, I'm like, oh, I wonder if this was if Pee-Wee was an influence for him, because you know, given his age, I would assume this is probably something that was an influential movie and TV show for him. So I just was like yeah, I could see.

SPEAKER_00 27:17

For sure. And did you see Friendship? Oh my god, I loved it. Holy cow! It's so funny, so funny. I mean, that was dark and funny, yeah. That scene where he starts eating the soap. Oh my god, I know. I was like, what is happening? Oh my gosh. I mean, that was brutal to watch. It was brutal to watch. Um, but I love that he's willing to just make himself that uncomfortable to watch, for sure. Yeah, um, yeah, really funny.

SPEAKER_01 27:53

It's a skill for sure, because it's like, you know, because you think as an entertainer, as a comedian, you're like, oh, I could do that. But then when you are in any kind of slightly uncomfortable situation, you're just like, oh no, no, no, your ego can't handle it, you know. And I mean, oh no, I can't. I know, not me. And he just doesn't give a fuck. And I think that's really awesome.

SPEAKER_00 28:09

I know, and it pays off because so few people are willing to do that. Well, you know, I just like have gotten into him in like the past year. I don't know. I'm just sleeping on him, and he's just he's great. Yeah, I'm glad there's a backlog of things to look up now that I am excited, you know.

SPEAKER_01 28:26

Oh, yeah. I know that uh Connor O'Malley's special, uh, the one that's on on uh YouTube where he like basically is like trying to like be a pyramid do like a shark tank, but he's trying to sell AI to do comic like AI can be a comedian. And so he's like it's all special as it's this concept of him like being on Shark Tank and trying to sell people. He has a PowerPoint and all that stuff. And I'm just like, he's so funny. And again, just he he's willing to just like kind of go there and not give a shit what people think. I I love that too.

SPEAKER_00 28:54

Well, and he's also created this kind of vibe where you could put him in fucking anything and it's yeah, you could put him in a white padded room and it would be funny, you know, which is so hard to do to create that where you know, um, that that you could just it's like a plug, just drop anywhere and watch him go. So anyway, that's hats off to him. That's great.

SPEAKER_01 29:20

Yeah, that whole like crew of guys, which I think a lot of them probably came out of Chicago, I'm guessing, too, because it's like a lot of those guys like Tim and Connor, you know, like AD Bryan is married to Connor O'Malley. I think they all came out of like probably doing Chicago improv, I'm guessing. Yeah, yes, which is very cool. Like they can definitely tell that they have been doing that for a long time.

SPEAKER_00 29:37

So yeah, I haven't met any of them, but that would be nice to see them.

SPEAKER_01 29:42

You got to. It's gonna happen. We're manifesting it now for you and for you and for me. Uh um, but hell yeah. So are you ready to talk about Kill Bill? Yes, I am. Let's go. So, audience for some stats, Kill Bill came out in 2003, written and directed by Quentin Tarantino, and starring, we'll just say we're just gonna say one person same, starring Uma Thurman, because there's many people in that movie, but she is. This is her movie. Both of them are. Um, so why is this your favorite, one of your favorite movies?

SPEAKER_00 30:13

Well, I remember like it came out uh in two parts. I'm pretty sure it was yeah, like two releases. Yeah. And the first one, uh, well, when it first came out, I was just, I don't think I had seen uh an action movie. First of all, I love Quentin Tarantino.

SPEAKER_01 30:32

Oh, same. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:33

So that like anything he puts out, I'm gonna see and try and see it, you know, in the theaters right away. But so I was already in, I love Uma Thurman. And just seeing a woman in a lead action movie was really inspiring. I love that. I think I have you know a lot of violence in me. So it's like almost yeah, like I think these two movies, it's like goofy and violent are pretty, pretty big parts of me, I would say. If I had to give you five words, those would be two of them. But I so I'm the way it's shot too. Oh yeah. You know, just all I mean, all of it. It's beautifully shot. This the storyline is incredible, the action scenes are incredible, the female lead, the um, the sword fighting, the making of the sword. I love a training montage. I love any anytime you put a montage with either a makeover or like training of some kind. I love a montage. Oh, yeah. And so that whole thing, um, and just her resilience in that movie is so yeah, she literally is buried alive, yeah. And I think that scene especially was something for me that I just thought, oh, I fucking love this, you know. Just somebody, she's been wronged, and she, you know, I'm a Scorpio, so of course I have like for vengeance, and my vengeance is like fulfilled in that movie, you know?

SPEAKER_01 32:24

Yeah, even in that scene where she's like where she's getting out of the coma and she's like kills both of those dudes who raped her, you know, basically multiple times. And I'm like, let's fucking go.

SPEAKER_00 32:33

Cause that's all right, Aileen Moore. And I was like starting out with Aileen uh, but no, that's fucking great when she and then just like wiggle your big toe, like her doing that, yeah, is like I think everybody at some point in your life, I mean, obviously, God forbid you're like actually paralyzed, right? Like you have a moment or you've had moments where you have to like will yourself to do something that you don't know if you can do, and it's just like such an example of that feeling of like that determination, yeah. And the resilience of that character and the skill. Um, and also just to see a woman that just is like, fuck you. Like, yeah, you know, like you did me wrong, you know you did me wrong, and you knew I was coming. So why did you do it? You know what I mean? It's like you're gonna get exactly what you thought you'd get if I got you. Yeah, you know, so I just love that because you don't see that at all. I can't think of any other characters that are like that because she's not necessarily trying to be a good person, right?

SPEAKER_01 33:52

Exactly. She that the the morality is not, it's it's she has her own level, her own compass, morality compass with that, which makes sense. But she is like objectively, like she's not like trying to be a yeah, a good person, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 34:04

Yeah, she's not a hero. She thinks her daughter's dead, so she's not even trying to save her daughter. She's just like, You fucked me over, and now I'm gonna kill you. Yeah, and I just think that's beautiful.

SPEAKER_01 34:16

Yeah, I do too. It's so like it's so cool to see that. And definitely like, you know, come out in 2003. It's been a minute since it was 2003, you know. Like, I just think like that movie and that character is just so ahead of its time, too. Cause like now you'd see you've seen multiple like like you know, ripoffs of Kill Bills, you know, coming out now with all, and I just think that she uh I just think that that movie really is just so unique and just so like stylistically beautiful. Um, big, big fam.

SPEAKER_00 34:44

And like um, the other thing was that it wasn't just men, you know what I mean, that she was fighting. Yeah, it was other women. And so, you know, I'm all for like women supporting women, of course. Like it was cool to see her uh, you know, sort of, I mean, just two women going at it and like being so brutal, yeah, and like literally trying to kill each other. It's I don't think I had ever really seen that before either.

SPEAKER_01 35:18

Yeah. You come to think about that's not that isn't that common. It is like usually a woman fighting a man, but like, and like, yeah, and any kind of women fighting women is kind of toned down or like overly sexualized, you know. And this was just like they are, yeah, you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_00 35:32

That's the other thing, dude. It wasn't like they, yeah, they weren't jello wrestling or muggers, right? They're like in a kitchen with series flying everywhere and knife fights, you know, and yeah, or they're in a trailer and she fucking grabs her eye out all my I know, dude. That scene is insane, yeah. And um, you know, or she gets her uh was it Lucy Lou? She like chops her head off, yeah. So and that whole part too, where she's fighting all like what is it, 188 men or something?

SPEAKER_01 36:09

Yeah, yeah. It's insane.

SPEAKER_00 36:11

The blood is like squirting out, it's like a throwback to like those old kung fu movies or whatever. Yeah. And um, yeah, I mean, that was beautiful. And back then, you know, her the moves they were doing, obviously she was like on a cable or something. Right, right. That whole thing was like new. We didn't, it wasn't like CGI was that big back then. Yeah, you could tell they were actually like they had rehearsed it and they're like fighting it out. I know she had a stunt double and everything for a lot of that, but yeah, um, yeah, just the way it was done was beautifully shot and entertaining to watch. The story is fantastic, and she's just such a badass. And I love that. And honestly, I've been waiting for the sequel because she hints at the third one.

SPEAKER_01 37:08

I know, I know. I'm waiting, and I feel like and and Tarantino was like, I'm only making 10 movies, whatever. Yeah, so I think he's on, I think Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, I think was seven or eight, but one of them has to be Kill Bill Volume Three. It has to be, you know?

SPEAKER_00 37:23

No, because she'll she said to the um, what is her name? Vivica Fox's daughter. Yeah, like if you feel raw about it, come find me or whatever. And it's like what a fucking beautiful thing to say, first of all. Yeah, I loved that. That really was like she knows she just killed her mom, and she like isn't really apologetic about it. She's just saying, like, if you feel that way, like come and find me, I'll be waiting, kind of a thing.

SPEAKER_01 37:54

Right. And I and I would love to see volume three now because now we have Maya Hawk, uh, Uma Thurman's daughter, who looks just like her. I think that would just be so great. And I know she's been she wasn't once upon a time in Hollywood as well. So it's like she's already out there doing stuff, and I'm like, oh, to have the daughter and you know, and you know, and Beatrix. I that I mean, and having her actual daughter, I think that'd be really cool, you know?

SPEAKER_00 38:14

Yeah, and even like you mentioned her name, just the whole like not revealing her name for some reason. Yes, that was I yeah, quirky things like that, and then the wedding scene, the bride, you know, I think I can, I mean, in hindsight, now I feel like you know, um her just like running to get married and try to have this like normal life, yeah, and thinking that that was gonna work and then it didn't, um, and it ended disastrously. I think I can relate to that a little bit. And I'm like, yeah, that kind of makes you know sense to me. And it's sort of like yeah, just trying to play this regular wife role, and it's like she has this this is how she, but we know how she really is, so it's right. Um yeah, so cool. I mean, what a badass. Truly. Um, and do you remember the first time you saw this movie? I think it must have been in the theater, obviously. I think that's what we did back then. And the the um yeah, the first one ends with Lucy Lou. And I remember just feeling like, oh, I can't wait for the rest of it.

SPEAKER_01 39:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 39:45

I and I kind of don't like a volume typically because I am I'm impatient and I don't wanna wait. Yeah. And I prefer things just tidied up, you know.

SPEAKER_01 39:57

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 39:58

But um I don't know who I was with or where I was, but yeah, I do remember that I bought it and then I was I was married. I got married in 2004. And um I was also pregnant, yeah. And I remember watching the VHS all the time. Yeah. And my husband hate did not like the movie.

SPEAKER_01 40:28

Of course not. I don't know a lot, yeah. Of course he wouldn't like that movie. Shocker. But like, you know, I just given that you're not together anymore, of course.

SPEAKER_00 40:38

But he his beef was like, it was too slow. Like she would she would take the sword out like this. And he I remember him specifically talking about the slowness which she like unsheathed the sword. Yeah. And I I remember thinking like just being like annoyed about that, but I was so newly married that I was like, okay, it's not a big deal, but it was it was uh a red flag for sure. Oh, dude, yeah. Like, I mean he didn't like it. Maybe maybe he was scared that I liked it so much. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 41:14

Well, I think I think there's something too, and there's a filmmaker, I don't remember who it was, but the quote is like if people who are together and they don't like the same movies, then they're probably not gonna last. And I I think that you know, people can say that entertainment is superficial or whatever, but I think movies, specific movies, music, all of all TV shows, all those things, but I think movies, because like they are they are they're so ingrained in our culture already, and like that it's such an event to go see a movie, um, typically is like I think that if you if you if you like the same thing as someone else, that means you probably subcon like have similar morals or similar interests, or just like you live, you see the world in a similar way based on like what you enjoy. And so like I do, I I think that quote's very profound. And so uh sounds like that wasn't the case with you and your ex-husband.

SPEAKER_00 41:59

Yeah, you know what we to now that you mention it, in fact, that's funny, not to make this about my divorce. No, let's fucking go. Like when um when I did get divorced, I was saying, you know, to my kids, not at the same time, whatever. I just said like the only music that we liked the same, my ex and I, we liked Johnny Cash was the only crossover. Wow, the only wow, the only person that we could both enjoy at the same time. So there is some truth in that. Like we didn't like the same stuff, and that was a big, you know, just it does kind of say something, I think.

SPEAKER_01 42:45

I think so too. And also, Johnny Cash is like beloved, so that one is like that. That's that, yeah, that's interesting. If you don't like Johnny Cash, your psychopath. Yeah, he's got kind of like up there with like a Dolly Parton or something like that. If you don't like her, then like there's something wrong with you. There's truly something wrong with you. Um, but yeah, there is something to that where like I I you know, I um also like I was I was seeing a guy a couple years ago and he uh did not like David Lynch, who I love, and like just could not stomach Twin Peaks. I tried to get him to watch it, he just kept falling asleep or getting on his phone the whole time. And obviously it didn't work out because he's a giant asshole for other reasons. But I mean, he sucks for a lot of other reasons. But just looking back, I'm like, yeah, like why did I have to try and like dumb down something that I love so much? Like, oh, well, you know, it is slow and whatever, and I get it's off for everyone, and like you know, and so I think about that often too, where I'm just like, no, like in entertainment, you know, and like just art art, not just entertainment cheapens cheapens what it is. The art, like what we consume, that is what makes us, you know.

SPEAKER_00 43:43

Yeah, oh that's interesting. Yeah, um, I think it is important, and I think that it certainly is a bond. Like when you both like uh I know that there's if I like some music and someone else's and I I have that in common. I do feel sort of like a kinship with them. I do feel closer to them, even if we don't know each other very well. Which that whole awareness is kind of new to me. I don't think I ever I never had that sort of um, you know, it never belonged to like a certain group of like we like this kind of music. Right.

SPEAKER_01 44:23

You are you're not a juggalo, is what you're saying. No. But I've been thinking on starting. Yeah. Well, damn, I was hoping to expose you on this podcast as a juggle, but it's okay. Next time.

SPEAKER_00 44:38

Yeah, next time. But yeah, I I I do see that in the small ways that I participate in things like that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 44:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 44:47

I don't feel comfortable belonging to any group, Courtney. That's my problem. That's I don't I don't like to be in any kind of group.

SPEAKER_01 44:55

Yeah, I get you with that. You know, like I I you know, I was thinking about this uh recently too, where like I went to college and I I went to Kent State in Ohio, and I I'm very like adverse to wearing any like school merch or also even like any sports teams. I wear a lot of like movie t-shirts and like band t-shirts, but like I, you know, I I'm mildly interested in sports, but I don't like wearing sports. I don't like I don't want people thinking that I'm part of this thing. And like because, you know, because it's like I don't need people to know that I'm interesting. I guess is what it is. You know what I mean? Like they can find that out on their own. They don't need I don't need to like wear it on my chest all the time, you know. I'm I'm kind of in the same lane.

SPEAKER_00 45:32

Yeah, I I guess I don't know. I it this is all sort of like this kind of thinking is something I've been thinking about a lot lately. Um because I I never I think I'm thinking about it more honestly because of comedy and because of like, you know, everybody's like branding and like who your audio know your audience. And so it's like that type of thinking has me thinking about this type type of stuff more because honestly, aside from just never really wanting to be a part of like a group, I just I physically get like it. And I I don't like groups in general, yeah. I don't I really I love people one-on-one and I love like I really do love them. Yeah, and but as soon as they get like more than three people, I'm like ugly, I start to not like them. Yeah, and so but anyway, I um forgot where I was going with that. It's just I I don't I never really put my personality reliant on what I like, yeah. I get you on that too. And also I get you consciously, obviously, subconsciously I've done that. Oh, for sure, yeah. Like, um, I don't I've never been like uh like if you were to ask me to describe myself, it wouldn't be with like what I consume. You know?

SPEAKER_01 47:08

Yeah, you're uh you're goofy and violent. Those are the those are the two. That's how we would describe Kristen to me. How are you describing yourself? I love it. Um, yeah, I I feel you on that too. And I get you with the group mentality too, because like once you get more people there, then everyone kind of has that pack mentality, and like there's some like it can, it's a different, it's a different vibe, but I think people start to kind of like change how they behave a little bit if there's more people there. So I and it just doesn't always feel like it, and when more people show up to something, it's like, oh, I thought we had a nice thing going, and now there's people here, and now you're acting different or whatever, you know. So I totally get you on that too. Yeah, I do.

SPEAKER_00 47:45

I think like there's something, um, and maybe that is it. I mean, I can be very controlling, and I can also feel like if I'm in a a place with a lot of ego, my ego's gonna hang out, and that's not attractive for anybody and enjoyable for me to even have it happen. So it's like there is something about that that I like to avoid. I don't like to feel like a clash or an you know what I'm saying? I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 48:14

Like yeah, no, I definitely I totally get what you're saying too. And uh yeah, that's also something I like about uh Kill Bill too is that she is just fully alone, she does her thing, you know, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 48:26

Two characters are just alone that I love.

SPEAKER_01 48:28

I was gonna say, actually, that's one thing. So that leads me into my next question is what are the correlations that you see between these two movies?

SPEAKER_00 48:37

I didn't even realize that. Um yeah, they both are very alone. Yeah. And they're both I don't know, I think what's driving each of them is different.

SPEAKER_01 48:52

Yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_00 48:54

You know? Um like I like that she has her own moral code. I feel like that, you know, she's not really going off of any other law, but how she feels like she has to settle the score or whatever. Um I've I feel like I don't really know what motivates Pee-Wee other than I don't really know.

SPEAKER_01 49:26

Yeah. What do you think? I think that there's definitely correlations for sure. I think one is that they're both movies are very like highly stylized, you know. I think just like there's a vision, it's not just like we're gonna throw this out here, like both, you know, Pee-Wee being a franchise, like coming in and like this the this other director who wasn't Tim Burton taking it over and still giving it, like still keeping it in in like very like genre-esque, you know what I mean? Like there's like a lot of fantastical elements to it that like where both of these movies live in in our universe or in a version of our universe. And but like they have their own rules and everything, and I really enjoy that. Um, and yeah, I would speak to the loneliness of both of them too, and how they are they're just like they, you know, whether and what the way they the way that they like internalize it, I think is a little bit different, but they are fully like on their own and wanting some sort of a connection, I think. You know, like obviously Beatrix wants like if she knew you know, she wants revenge because she also feels like she had her whole life taken from her, you know what I mean? And Heewee just doesn't have anyone. I mean, yeah, he the fact that he's also want to say the fact that he's like engaged and he still feels alone, that's something there's something to that too. So, you know.

SPEAKER_00 50:34

Yeah, I mean, I can relate to that too. But I think, yeah, there is something. Um I don't know. I I guess I do like to be, I do love to be alone, actually. Probably too much. And so I I think I remember as a kid just being like, you know, that's that moop movie line from Home Alone where Kevin is like, I can't wait to grow up and get married and be alone, like live alone. Yes, yes. Oh, yeah. When I grow up and get married, I'm living alone. Like I feel like I say that to myself a lot because it's like that's I think that line became like some kind of mantra in my subconscious. Like there is just something about um, I just kind of wanted to live alone. Yeah. And um I like to be alone, I've I think you know, to a point. I don't know. I hope that's not forever, but that's for right now, and then who knows? Yeah. But I think women, especially as you age, you get so um, I think for men, it's like the older you get, the more you want to settle down, right? Nobody wants to be like 50-year-old guy at the bar looking for ass or whatever. Yeah, yeah. And then it's like the 50-year-old woman is like, get the fuck. Like, we need people less because we don't really need protection so much because nobody's really trying to fuck us like that. So it's like we don't have to beat the men off, you know. Yeah, yeah. And so the need for it just is different, you know what I mean? It's just a different. I think women are better off the older we get being alone. I think I I do too.

SPEAKER_01 52:30

We live longer. I was gonna say that yeah, that's like that women are better off alone because like they have a healthier, happier life. Because and men, men die without women because are you know in heteronormative relationships, they die without women because they can't fucking put their pants on in one leg at a time. They don't know how to do that. You know what I mean? How are they in charge? Oh, I don't know. It's I think it's it's just because they're slightly stronger than us physically, and that's very annoying. Um, it is like really so stupid. It is, and like, yeah, I see I've seen stuff like online where people say that or studies show that men settle down not with the one, but when they're ready to settle down. So they'll just pick any woman, they're like, okay, I'm ready to not be a fuck boy anymore. You'll be my wife. And then that's you know, and that's like, and then where women are a little more uh thoughtful as the, you know, and who they want to be with. And I think that's where the disconnect happens a lot too. Like, I'm I've been, I'm in, I'm 32, I've been single for a long time. And uh at this point, I'm just like honestly, like every time I think about going out with a man or anybody that I might have a crush on, I'm just like, oh God, you know, you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_00 53:34

I know exactly what you mean. I love to have a crush. I do love to have a crush. I mean, they're few and far between for me these days.

SPEAKER_01 53:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 53:42

Um, I seem to have them a lot more often when it was like not possible.

SPEAKER_01 53:48

Like a not possible crush. Yeah. Oh, yeah, love it. Uh unattainable, you know.

SPEAKER_00 53:54

Uh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 53:55

My therapist, I I am the same way. My therapist is like, Well, Courtney, you're emotionally unavailable. And I'm like, Well, fuck you. I have lots of friends. And she's just like, Well, that's why you keep picking pick keep picking these men who don't know how to do anything and aren't available. Yeah, it's interesting.

SPEAKER_00 54:10

Yeah, it's safe and um, you don't have to do anything about it, really.

unknown 54:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 54:16

As soon as it becomes reality, there's like that Bukowski quote, like love burns at the daylight of reality or something is a fog that I'm saying.

SPEAKER_01 54:28

Yes, I love that quote. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 54:29

That is um that is I've found to be unfortunately pretty true.

SPEAKER_01 54:34

Yeah. What is it? A crush is just a lack of information, is what I hear too.

unknown 54:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 54:40

Um, but yeah, uh, well, we'll figure it out. I think we're doing pretty well in other departments of our lives, you know?

SPEAKER_00 54:47

Yeah, and that's that's the thing too. I mean, if it's gonna happen, it'll happen. I feel like, you know, maybe it's like south by southwest. You just stop thinking about it and you get it.

SPEAKER_01 54:57

Yeah, yeah. And maybe you'll meet him at South by South West West next year. Who's to say, you know? Just some some humble guy who's there just to have a good time and has like an avocado tattoo or something, you know what I mean? To match my artichoke. Yeah, I know that I just was like, oh, what's a funny thing to have a tattoo of?

SPEAKER_00 55:15

It's all it's actually it's a lotus, but it looks like an art choke.

SPEAKER_01 55:19

Oh, I like I like it. It's cute. So anyway. So, Kristen, I have a couple more questions for you, then I'll let you go. I'll let you go. I don't want to keep you too long. Um, so I just so these are my like my rapid rapid fire questions, but answer them at your own pace, you know. Uh so with both movies, if you had to recast every character with a with the Muppets, but keep one human in each movie, who would be the human be and who are some of the Muppets you'd want in these movies?

SPEAKER_00 55:44

Oh my goodness. That would be fantastic. I mean, both movies would work very well. Yes. As Muppet movies. Yes, agreed. I think that wait, which one are we doing first? Oh, let's well, let's let's do pee-wee first. Okay. Pee-wee would stay pee-wee. You gotta have pee-wee because we should have done a pee-wee Muppet movie. Oh my god, that would have been so good.

SPEAKER_01 56:12

Right. It's too late now. I know.

SPEAKER_00 56:15

Um yeah, I would say AI, but no, I don't want to. No, no, no, no, yeah. But yeah. Um, I would say uh Midge. Yeah, oh little little lady, yeah. Little lady would be Miss Piggy. Oh yes. And not Vance, which you would think Vance. Yeah. Oh my oh my gosh, yeah. Yeah, that's right. Um I think Kermit would be Vance, the pig. Yeah, that's cute. And um the Winnie character would be who's the one that just beeps all the time? Oh, uh Beaker? Yeah. Um, and then Chris Christopherson's character would be Gonzo. That's good. I like I agree. Yeah. And Gina, the Italian, that would have to be Fonzie. Fozzie, Fonzi, Fonzie Bear, the world's greatest stand-up comedian.

SPEAKER_01 57:34

Yeah. Waka waka. Just and it's gotten real gay all of a sudden. Oh, we love it, but Pee-wee's already a little gay. He's a little fruity, you know?

SPEAKER_00 57:43

Yeah. Finally. Yeah. Um, who are the other Muppets? Who's the uh oh and then the the Pee Wee Herman wants it pickle guy? Yeah. He's the balcony guy.

SPEAKER_01 57:55

Yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, I think Grover and yeah, or not Grover. Um, I can't remember their names right now. Yeah, but like the old the old guys. Yeah. Um and who else is the Muppets? Oh, so there's uh you're missing there's uh the Eagle, there's Oscar the Grouch, or it's a count.

SPEAKER_00 58:15

Wait, Oscar the Grouch is a Muppet.

SPEAKER_01 58:17

Oh, I I also count like Sesame Street 2 in this, too. So Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 58:22

Um who would Oscar the Grouch be?

SPEAKER_01 58:27

I don't know. Maybe like a townsperson, you know, like maybe one of the ones that eats like the wheel the little weenie on a stick and becomes a kid because they're so shitty, you know?

SPEAKER_00 58:36

Yeah. Um, yeah, those little old ladies. I love that scene where like this will make a nice doily, don't you think, May? And he's like, I'm starving. Yes. So yeah, I think the rest of the Muppets would just be the townspeople because there aren't very many and then the circus people, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 58:57

They just would fill out with whoever they have. There's a lot of background Muppets, I think, too, that are just like in like the ensemble, I feel like, you know? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 59:07

Um that's it, right? Yeah, and then what about Kill Bill?

SPEAKER_01 59:12

So for Kill Bill, I think Miss Piggy being Uma Thurman's character would be so she because she does like her high, she's already like doing her karate anyway. Yeah, so she's so perfect.

SPEAKER_00 59:26

Yeah, that would be so perfect, and then um, yeah, like Fozzie would be uh Buck.

SPEAKER_01 59:36

Oh yeah, Buck who fucks, yeah. Oh Buck who fucks and then who would Kermit be? Bill. Yeah, Kermit would be Bill, which yeah, unfortunately so, but like the leading man, yeah. Um Miss Piggy and Kermit, of course. Yeah, Piggy. Yeah, of course. Yeah, of course.

SPEAKER_00 59:58

They could actually have done this. Um Gonza would be like Lucy Lou's character.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:05

I could see that. And who would be like Bud, is it? Yeah, Bud.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:14

Bud that's true.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:19

Um Animal? Animal. Oh yeah, that's a good pick.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:24

Yeah. Um and then I guess just fill in the rest. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:30

No, those are I mean, yeah, those are solid picks, uh, for sure. The I mean I would watch both of those movies of Muppets. They would work really well, honestly. They would. That's a good question, actually. Oh, thank you. I I like I think it's a fun like icebreaker question, you know, for people. And I just I think for the movies it's really it's fun. I also I like to think about that stuff too. So um, and then Kristen, final question before I let you go. So, what what is your go-to movie snack and drink, either in the theater or at home? What do you what do you gotta have?

SPEAKER_00 1:01:00

I have to have in the movie theater, I have to have milk duds. I'm a milk dud, they're gluten-free. So yeah. I love popcorn, but I can't eat it. It's just too, it always makes my stomach hurt. I don't know. It's just not. Um, and like popcorn is like bad for inflammation, so I just don't eat it anymore. But milk duds definitely the last time I went and saw one battle after another recently, and I gotta see that. I'm so excited. Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you. I'm so excited to see it. It's so good. And I got a caramel apple at the Kilwinds next door, and I had them cut it up, and I put it in my purse and I brought that in. That was delicious. Oh so milk, but I have to have like some kind of caramel, it looks like something.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:49

Yeah, I like I like the the through line with that too. And do you have like a drink that you like to get, like an icy or like are you like or you know, or coke or anything?

SPEAKER_00 1:01:57

No, just uh in fact, I don't really usually get anything. Maybe like uh sparkling water.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:04

I'm like a soda water gal. I don't really I don't drink pop anymore.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:09

It's usually just soda water or just a water water.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:15

I feel you. And also with like the snacks, you want to stay hydrated, and I think soda in general isn't good for that, and like alcohol definitely isn't good for that. So what do you get? Normally I what I do is I'm not much of an eater when it comes to movies because I think I don't like hearing myself chew while trying to watch something that I'll eat, I'll eat uh if I'm at home watching something, but in the theater, I'm I'm kind of annoying where I'm like, I just don't eat a whole lot. I do like popcorn though. Like when all the Star Wars movies are coming out, I'd get the collectible popcorn bucket with all the popcorn. Uh, but generally speaking, I like I like either like a couple glasses of wine or like a beer or something like that, or sparkling water, just something to kind of sip on and like just kind of relax and like enjoy it. So I'm definitely like I treat going to the movies almost like going to church in a way, where I'm like, I it is like my religion in a way. So so yeah, so uh I don't that's that's pretty much what I stick to is liquids. Unless I'm doing like a double or triple feature, then I will have to get something to eat since I won't leave the theater, you know.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:08

But yeah, you know, I do think it's weird how much we eat in the dark. I feel like there's I I don't really like eating in the dark in general. I I get so mad when I leave um comedy clubs. Sometimes like driving home, if I smell like the fryer. Oh, hate it. Oh, I can't like people eating chicken in the dark. First of all, you shouldn't eat chicken in the dark because you can't see if it's cooked all the way. Oh god, that's so true. And people just like eating popcorn chicken in the dark, like watching live entertainment, especially, is like impulsive to me. Eating live well, watching live entertainment is is a it bothers me as a rule. And like even I think this amount that people eat during an hour-long something show, it's really it's ridiculous. Same thing with a flight. Oh, the flight is crazy. Why do we need to we don't need a meal service? Like it's two hours. I know you have to eat something every two hours. I get some people are tired and they haven't eaten yet, right? But it's just like the way it's like forced on people to be eating so much. Yeah, yeah. The common dude eat at a restaurant, then do something, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:04:32

Dude, the comedy club thing, too, because I get it's like the two item minimum, whatever, and they get you with the with the in my opinion, pretty gross food. I mean, that I'm not calling any club out there, it's all gross. Like, I'm so I you know the the best club in the world.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:43

I see it on from the stage sometimes. I I see it fucking disgusting eating this chicken.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:49

Yeah, and then also as and as the comic, sometimes like that's our only meal that we're gonna be getting for the night because you don't want to buy anything. God, I yeah, and then yeah, then you walk out smelling bad, and I just I think about that too, where it's like it is like it's distracting, I think, because live entertainment, you know, especially with comedy, like if you miss one line, you're gonna miss the punchline. If you're like chomping on a chip or something like that, you're not gonna hear it. And it's just, or you're ordering from your waitress to order another picture of margaritas or whatever. Like, hey, do your thing. Love and light to all of you who like to eat and drink at a show. We appreciate you coming to shows, but also it's just like I think it cheapens the.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:24

I'll say it. I'll say it. Don't fucking eat at the show. Go home, eat after, eat before. It's gross to be sitting eating chicken in the dark.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:35

There's something shoving it, like looking up at someone like shoving it in your face, you know, while someone's talking about like their most traumatic moment of their life, you know.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:43

Like telling, yeah. And it's like I maybe the candy or popcorn or something like that. Yeah. But to have a fucking pizza to have a whole meal in front of you. It's like the Do it before. Serve the food. I'm not I'm saying make your money before, but like when the show's going, it's gross. It's not a being, it's gross, is what it is.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:12

And it is gross. There's like people are just chomping down, and it's just like you just and you can like even like if you have a moment of silence as a comedian on stage, you'll you can hear the chewing, and I'm just like, oh god, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 1:06:22

Oh, it makes me grossed out. And I want to say sometimes I'm like, how are you fucking eating that right now?

SPEAKER_01 1:06:30

Yeah, truly. Seriously. Oh my God. Oh, I I'm with you a hundred percent. Um, and on that note, Kristen, uh uh, do you have where can people find you and what do you have going on?

SPEAKER_00 1:06:44

Well, I'm going, uh they could find me on Instagram at KristenTumi on there. And um, or threads or Facebook, and then or TikTok too. Um, but Kristen, and I love you.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:59

Uh, thank you so much for having me. Of course, thank you for being on and uh audience. This has been another episode of Core Memory, and we'll talk soon. This has been Core Memory, a podcast about movies, and I'm your host, Courtney Warner. Thank you so much for listening to today's episode. Uh, please feel free to like and subscribe on anywhere that you get your podcasts. Uh, would absolutely love the uh the support on there. If you enjoyed today's episode and any of our other episodes, also we are on our Instagram at Core MemoryPod. Please feel free to give us a follow on there as well if you want any behind the scenes tidbits or any kind of fun visuals on there. Uh, and again, thank you for listening, and we hope that you'll listen again soon.