HOW TO APPROACH THE YOUTH: TALES FROM THE JAILS LIVE!!!

How to approach the youth should men still approach the youth to assist them with their troubles. The speak about the difficulties of speaking to the youth and getting them to listen. 

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SPEAKER_13 8:11

Looking for a topic. Well, not a topic, but uh just looking up the stuff that I posted earlier. Oh, okay. You talk about.

SPEAKER_02 8:16

Well, I mean, you know, jail is jail. We can sit up here and talk about jail and speaking about jail. It's so many different facets of jail. But we're not just up here like everybody know, we're not glorifying prison and gas. Yeah, under no circumstances. Going finding, like, you know, ban a criminal, going to jail, or ban a street guy or street girl, whatever you want to call yourself, you know, and going to jail. Ultimately, Tellsman of Jails uh speaks about not going to jail and how to prevent jail, but also let you know what's going on in jail by these stories. Once again, uh this week we got Rollo. Rollo will be available on Tellsman to Jails platform this week. As you know, we go live almost every day. You know, just keep everybody tuned in, man. What's going on? Stay, you know, yeah, John Johnson Life 302. We just gonna uh stay grinded for sure. But yeah, man, you know, um I seen something. I know you think you spoke about it yesterday, right? I know I think it was like these juveniles, right? I mean, those are some people that people that work in these uh juvenile facilities, right? And a lot of the juveniles that's in these facilities a lot of times have you know serious, serious situations. Murder, robbery, you know, gun charges, so forth and so on, right?

SPEAKER_14 9:26

Yeah, because it ain't like it was when I was growing up, man. You know, when I was a juvenile, I was certified for adult cases and they had it was it was a it was a couple of us. They had whole units. Remember uh over the youth study center, they have certified the teams that was catching, or not even teens, you was underneath a teen or whatever, or that was catching adult cases, murders, robberies, and stuff like that. It was a few of us. Now, man, they got to open up a whole facility for this for the juveniles that's getting charged as adults. Yeah, like they they they they got enough now where they could open up a facility that holds a thousand to fifteen hundred convicts, and it'll be all kids. They ain't had it like that when we was coming up. You had your few, you had your few little crazy knuckleheads, me being one of them, you know, and we'd be all there have a little block, what, uh H2 over House of Correction just for the juveniles. Um, the juveniles didn't go DC, uh, which is the detention uh DC. What? What is DC saying for?

SPEAKER_02 10:21

Detention center.

SPEAKER_14 10:22

Detention center, all right, yeah. Detention center. They didn't have it over there over CFCF, over PIC. It was over House of Correction. They had one wing for the juveniles. Now they can actually fill up a full gel of juveniles. This is how many, this is how much the juveniles is catching adult cases at a woman rate. Now you always had juveniles catching cases, stealing cars, stealing out the supermarkets, maybe a little snatch and grab from somebody perhaps. You know, these is minute crimes, but crimes still. Now the crimes has they're levels to it now. The level of crime from the juveniles is rising to the top.

SPEAKER_02 10:58

The juveniles is doing more heinous acts than the adults right now.

SPEAKER_14 11:02

Like out of the, and I don't like to keep bringing it up out of this YBC indictment of the 19 men they just bought in. I don't think none of them is 30 years old.

SPEAKER_02 11:10

Yeah, I see.

SPEAKER_14 11:11

I don't think none of them is 30 years old. You know what I'm saying? And it's like dad, they, you know, hopefully, you know, whatever they're allegedly charged with that they didn't do it, but if it comes to be true that they did do it, the system will handle them accordingly, and they will handle them accordingly. Trust and believe, I know I've been in there. They don't care nothing about giving no 15-year-old, 16, 17, 18-year-old boy life.

SPEAKER_02 11:35

But the state indictments are easier to beat than federal indictments.

SPEAKER_14 11:39

Well, yeah, well, yeah, what yeah, yeah, you you could say so, but when they come to like state usually charge you, but when you get them Rico's and all that in the state, it's a it's a it's it's a big joint. They on it. Like what they got now, they got a Rico. They've been they they they they following the Fed's protocol. They've been surveillancing these dudes for three years. They ain't coming at them with just hold up, hold up. They ain't coming at them with just one case, or you just got this. They got three years of gathering information on these dudes, and then they're gonna present this at court on trial for whoever decides to go to trial. That's hard to beat. Three years worth of stuff.

SPEAKER_02 12:12

Do you think that's true though? Because really, all they gotta do is go to these. I mean, they say three followers guys for three years. Yeah. Really, all they gotta really do is go to Instagram and they get that's the whole case right there.

SPEAKER_14 12:24

But but regardless, regardless if they go on to Instagram or not, they still getting three years of it's not really all that true to say I'm following for three years. Yeah, how are they true if they're dating the crimes? They telling you when the crimes happened, it took place. We've been investigating it since then. They didn't come get them then, they could have been game and got them.

SPEAKER_02 12:40

That's something the feds do. That's what my thing is what I'm saying. So y'all knew these people was supposedly doing what they was doing, yes, but letting it go on and on. The feds do it. You sit there acting crazy, talking to the see, then you go you always turn me. I'm saying I don't believe it when they say that.

SPEAKER_14 12:54

How? How you don't believe them? They brought in 487 pictures in the courtroom dating back five years prior to the time we were sitting in there.

SPEAKER_02 13:01

No, but I'm saying that's what I'm pointing. I'm saying I'm saying they say they'd be investigating you for a year, but they really just get somebody's telling, and then it's all right now. I'm gonna go get them once it gets enough evidence. It's not like some people.

SPEAKER_14 13:14

Yeah, well, I'm telling you, they do. Okay. You ain't got to ask me. They do. They will they you you you they're investigating stuff that happened two, three years ago. They got conversations from two, three years ago.

SPEAKER_02 13:26

They can investigate something that happened two or three years ago, but are they actually really following me for three years?

SPEAKER_14 13:30

Why you letting me just do all build the case, but you can't get out of it when they come.

SPEAKER_02 13:34

They do that to everybody. Killing people supposedly drugs, yes, you're just letting it keep going on and on.

SPEAKER_14 13:40

Yes, they when they finally bring you in and they got so much overwhelming evidence that there is no escape for you. That's why they do that.

SPEAKER_02 13:47

Okay, so let me believe it.

SPEAKER_14 13:48

Let me keep killing people, let me keep yes, until they ready to come get you. They'll take back off of them. We got that, we investigating it. Back off. Yes, that's the ploy they use. That's what they do. They ain't just saying, oh, we know about stuff. It gotta be it. They they know about that stuff, they know about it when it happened and they ain't alright. Chill, just chill, just chill, just give them enough room. Just it's like I told you to go back to one of the segments we had before when I said there is dudes walking around in the streets of Philadelphia right now that has been a diet by a dream, grand jury, and don't even know. You don't even know yet. That's the whole time they're building a case on them. Yeah, you think they they dite these people by a grand jury uh November 10th, 2019. Bring you in June 20th, 2022. That's three years from 19 to 22. They indicted you though. A grand jury did that, you think they ain't watching all that time? Yeah, yeah, they is. Okay, they just building the evidence up more and more. They do that to where as though that's why the feds got a crazy conviction rate. They don't just come get you the first thing you do. You might squeeze through the packs as a technical technology or something or free you from that case. And they know you did it, but a technicality, how they came, they done lost the damn case because oh, they didn't have a search warrant or something, or you beat the case off a no search warrant. But they had a right to chase you in this house because what you was doing.

SPEAKER_02 15:06

Exactly. And then the you know, a lot of times the feds do, they like that's what I'm saying. I'm a little confused. Like, like even with the Lil Durk situation. Hey, yo, play play that clip real fast. That that clip from the lawyer where you spoke about Lil Durk's case and and how they can how they can use certain things, you know what I'm saying? But you but you looking at these these these cases and these feds, they building, they building and building the case, and they trying to uh get a particular person and or a particular group of people to to uh to indict them, but you letting me continuously, continuously sell drugs. That's like come on, man. Come get me when you when it when it's only like only I'm on only sold a half ounce. I'm waiting and sold 20 bricks and then trying to give me 500 years, I didn't destroy the whole kit communities. Yeah, it don't even make sense. Slap get me down, slap me on my wrist on my hand.

SPEAKER_14 15:52

No, they want to put you away. Ain't trying to do no slapping you on your wrist. That slap on the wrist might be like, and then for real, for real, if I came, if they came and got me, man, and didn't investigate and I was out there in my back and my act, a slap on the wrist ain't gonna do nothing to change my the my my outset my outlook on how to get money the way I was getting it. They come get me. I'm out here getting good money. I'm doing about a dime a day. A dime a day. You remember we was out there doing, and they come get me and give me 18 months. I'm coming right back to that dime a day.

SPEAKER_02 16:24

Oh, that block was doing more than that.

SPEAKER_14 16:26

I'm just we just speaking, but I'm coming right back to it. I didn't 18 months. I got that's a pat on the behind. I'm coming right back eight. So now they counter that by saying, No, we're gonna watch y'all for a while. So now when we do come, that 18 months is out the door. You get 18 years. I bet y'all be thinking about selling crack then after that 18 years.

SPEAKER_02 16:46

So that's what I'm saying, dude. This is all the game. Do they really care?

SPEAKER_14 16:50

No, they don't care. They they're doing their job. Why should they care? They they don't live in these communities. You're out here doing what the law scenes don't do. We're gonna do, we're gonna use every measure at our leisure to get you in there for a very long time. They try to see you in there for 18 months, two years. You out here selling guns and selling dope and fetting all this, killing people. Oh, you get 18, 24 months. Nobody's learning a lesson from that. By the time you get done with the corporate scenes and all that, it's time to go home. No, they're not doing that, bro. They tightening your behind. Look.

SPEAKER_02 17:23

All right, go ahead, go ahead. Put it, put it's a slide, I believe.

SPEAKER_00 17:26

So it's pushed to August 2026. If you listen to the noise, all you're gonna hear is Dirk is cooked. Nobody's there for Dirk, motion denied, but that's just the noise. The fact of the matter is, his won a number of points in this case. The indictments, there's been three indictments, and each time the allegations against Dirk have thinned out. Some of the evidence that they wanted to use has actually been withdrawn so that the judge didn't have to exclude it. I'm gonna take you through it piece by piece, and I'll leave the best parts for the end. First, when they charged Dirk, the main allegation about him rapping in his lyrics was this lyric about him going, told me they got natty, got location, green light, senior son on the news screaming, no, no. Okay, that lyric, if you play that lyric, then you play the video of Kwando next to the murdered victim, no, no, you would have won major points with the jury. That lyric's not in the indictment anymore because Finling showed that those lyrics were written well before the murder. A couple more points. When they bought this case, they said the Dirk update, the trials, interestingly, at the same time that the government pivoted from sending DD paid the shooters to sending, anyway it was putting people in music videos, they also added a fallback charge. So when they bought the case, the original indictment, there was no stalking charge. In the second superseding indictment against Dirk, they added a stocking charge. And the stocking charge is important because it doesn't require any contract. No quid pro quo, no bounty, no payment theory. You can add that charge and simply prove that hey, he was telling people to go do this. He didn't necessarily pay them to go do a murder, but he was telling them to go follow that guy. He was telling them to go stalk that guy. And the jury can look at it and say, a lot, like in the Diddy case, that hey, not exactly sure here. Very, very uh, you know, very, very suspicious individual over here. I'm gonna go ahead and hit him with the left charge. And so, you know, when the government puts in that fallback charge later in the case, that tells you that they're not a hundred percent sure on their theory that they acknowledge that, hey, we need to have a fallback here. Keep an eye out for a couple things.

SPEAKER_02 19:26

One, interestingly, at this point Yeah, so even just listening to that clip right there, right? And you hear all that stuff saying they taking stuff out. This this can't be in here. We take this this is, you know, I mean, all these different things. You know, we we we objecting to this, we objecting to that, you know. This um this is something that we we we can't verify. This is actually we talking about the the the quando rondo with his homie getting uh killed because he wrote the lyrics way before the shooting happened. Like, all these different things, right? You hear all these different things, you see this stuff going on with this case. It's like now the uh the Feds is like, hold on, we can't let him get off, so we can't, so we gotta have sticking stuff that's like right there. There's like there's no if, ands, or buts about it. There's no question marks because if you keep these question marks in the case, now it's making it their case weak against Lil Durk and he's in front of a jury, and jury can say, Man, well, we're gonna quit him. Is that is that what you what you're getting from what he was saying?

SPEAKER_14 20:27

Man, one thing about it, see, I'm not the regular layman towards that that'll look at that in that aspect that you would look at it. I know how these people play, federal. Man, that lawyer up there just running his mouth, man. When he gets in that arena, man, they gonna pull all types of wool and blankets. Man, listen, man, he he need to go back and as he said, he he said some things that was facts, but that thing it changes during the course of the trial, bro. Yeah, federal court is out of like they gonna get you all that stuff that you think ain't gonna be permissible, gonna be they the judge do what he wants in there, man.

SPEAKER_02 21:02

Like when like like when when y'all when Chu got the mistrial when y'all was in the or when they came back for the uh for the that they you they use they use a federal witness, they use um was it dayday, whatever his name. They use him and then they came back the next time and didn't even use him again.

SPEAKER_14 21:19

Exactly. They do what they want to do.

SPEAKER_02 21:21

They said, nah, we're gonna come back and use something else.

SPEAKER_14 21:23

Yeah, because you might have said something goofy last time that we didn't want you to say, so we're gonna put somebody else in your spot. Yeah, man, bro. They play a whole nother type of game, man. The game they playing, it's like you did something to them personally, yeah. Like like you so cracked that they mom or something like that. You know what I'm saying? And I get it, you trying to clean up, but you you going the man, they going too hard, bro. That lawyer up there just, you know, building his patting his stacks, and you know, you know, for the publicity of the other, he better go get hit them books because this joint rate gets crunchy.

SPEAKER_02 21:51

Yeah, but I'm saying, like, you know, you say he should hit the books, but you know, his lawyer supposed to be his lawyer team from what I'm saying, from what I'm hearing, he got a strong team. Around him, but you know, should he take a deal? I think he should take a deal.

SPEAKER_14 22:06

I'm saying he probably don't want to take a deal. If he was smart, he would, especially if he knew he had these allegations is true, or some of them. A deal still gonna get and crack his head. Little dimeski. Dimeski is like life for dirt. I got like two in. But it's still like life for dirt. Dirt in jail for a dime? That man had a whole career going on. You you talking about he had two in. You be just turning me up. A dime, bro. We talking about a dime for a regular man. He got two in, though. And that's six, seven more left. Yeah. For we talking about for dirt, bro. We're talking about for dirt.

SPEAKER_02 22:39

We got two in, though. He's two in.

SPEAKER_14 22:40

All right. Go on. Next question, man.

SPEAKER_02 22:43

All I'm saying is, like, oh, saying that I'm just saying, so for somebody like him, I'll take a dime over life.

SPEAKER_14 22:49

Yeah, if he knew better, he would, but he ain't gonna want to take no dime, bro.

SPEAKER_02 22:52

But then that's the same thing you're saying with Queso's son. Um, yeah, he was selfish.

SPEAKER_14 22:56

Yeah, 25. Yeah, he was selfish. He had a chance to free the men. He was selfish.

SPEAKER_02 23:01

All right, so Dirk can take a dime and he'd be home to his family.

SPEAKER_14 23:03

Well, I'm not saying, yeah, he can definitely do that, but I'm just saying for Dirk. What I'm saying, you missing my point. He he should do that if they offer him that and he knows that these allegations is true. He should take that dime, yes, because that dime will turn into 600 months.

SPEAKER_02 23:17

And also, you said taking that deal doesn't always equate to guilty.

SPEAKER_14 23:21

That just means like I'm just yeah, I'm just getting out your way because I know y'all gonna blast me. You know what I'm saying? I'm getting out the way. It's over with. I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna plead out to this with whatever charges you gave me. Boom. I'm gonna go ahead and do a little bit of time, get back home to my family. That's just it, bro.

SPEAKER_02 23:37

So but you when you when you got indicted, right?

SPEAKER_14 23:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:40

They offered, they offered you a deal.

SPEAKER_14 23:41

They offered me 17 years. And you wish you would have took it? Yeah, you goddamn right, I'd have been home. I'd have been home. I ended up doing 21 of it. Out of 17, you'll do about 14. I'd have been home. I did 21 years. 14 and 21 is a hell of a you know mean difference.

SPEAKER_04 24:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 24:00

I mean, out of 15, well, I say, yeah, they offered me 17. I did about 13. 13 is granted on not losing a whole bunch of good time. Yeah, 13 is way better than 21. Yes, I'd have took the deal. But I'm thinking they came to me with a deal 17 years. I'm 20 years old. 17 years sounds like 17,000 years. And I ain't had no money. Broke. So imagine him getting offered a dime with all that he got going on. He's gonna look at a dime. That's life to him. He ain't never been in no jails and all that, always been free. Come on, man. His career probably will be over. Because you know, that that that that that music that dime going humble, humble, like that dime is gonna take the win out his cells.

SPEAKER_02 24:43

Like he, like you said, he if he think about it and say, you know what? Man, I can come home at 10. My kids ain't gonna be that old.

SPEAKER_14 24:50

Like what Dirk got good going for him, man, is a good, good piece that he has in his pocket, and that's his father. And his father is a man. We had Big Dirk up here, Abdul Ha. Shout out to Abdul Ha. Um and he's a man, man. He's an older man that's been in the feds for years, that had life before, actually. You know what I'm saying? And he knows firsthand how them people play.

SPEAKER_02 25:14

So if you if you if you big hot um um Abdul Ha, are you talking to your son? Look, man, if they come with this, take this. He is. They come with this five, they they listen. If I can get it to a five, a nick. He is take that.

SPEAKER_14 25:26

He's telling, he ain't telling him to be bullheaded and go straight to children. I guarantee you that. I guarantee you that every time he talked to his son, he ain't like, man, we rumbling all the way to the door. Uh he's definitely giving him them valuable valuable pieces of information, or as you want to call it, he's arming him with ammunition that he can use going into this fight. This is gonna be one of the best or hardest fights of his life right here. Going into this federal trial. That's starting what, August 26th of this year? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 25:55

Yeah, man. And they keep pushing it out. So now they get more time out of it. Just sitting in this cell, just but you know, like sometimes, like you said, people come from a certain a certain situation, like a little dirty coming from the start. He's on private jets, he's flying all around the world. Uh he's making money. He's I heard something he got like uh a quarter, uh, a quarter million dollars just to do a walkthrough. And then a walkthrough is like you just walk in the club, got a microphone, say, hey, what's up, y'all? How y'all doing? And walk out.

SPEAKER_14 26:20

Oh, and he got 250,000.

SPEAKER_02 26:23

That's what they were saying, that's what he's getting, like a w like a walkthrough. So you get somebody like him who's doing walkthroughs with the clubs and these places like that, and you're making a man, you do four clubs and a million dollars. So for me, you know, that type of lifestyle, you start you start to realize, like, man, look man, I can get back to living a life of that if I just make the right decision and take a deal and get home. I'm gonna make something when I get out. It might not be at that level because you know, the music, the genre stuff, or whatever you want to call this music stuff changed so much. You know what I'm saying? Like you look at look at the rappers who did who did time and then came home.

SPEAKER_14 27:01

Like a lot of times everything leave you in the wind. Anything over two years, man, and two years will hurt your career, especially if you're one of these type of dudes that was, especially if you was rising up in the ranks of the rap world or whatever world you was in. Two years, man, is a long like that that'll cripple your whole. You gotta come home and put the pieces back together. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Then you might have some brains that want to stay away from you because you was convicted in order to be doing this two years. You know what I'm saying? Brand but oh, we ain't backing that no more. Contracts or that he done had with certain big uh typhoon companies and all that. It's backing away from me.

SPEAKER_02 27:36

Well, you know, Max B came home. He did it at that time, he came home. And I guess he's I mean, you know, from what I hear, he's he's still moving around and yeah, because he got a large supporting cast.

SPEAKER_14 27:46

I'm not saying Dirk don't have that, but you know, Dirk is a much bigger star than him.

SPEAKER_02 27:50

Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_14 27:51

I'm not saying I'm not saying he is. I see four or five people going to court now for him. What you mean? What you mean? You're talking about big mega stars, four or five people on the court dates that he had, man. Intricate court dates.

SPEAKER_02 28:01

We should go to the his next court date. We should go.

SPEAKER_14 28:02

Or we can see we can fly out there and goes in LA and support him and you know what I'm saying, get some footage and see what's going on.

SPEAKER_02 28:08

Yeah, go out there and uh go out there and uh and support him. You know, I know if Bill Hot gonna be there. Anyway, I'm gonna talk to him about it. But at the end of the day, you got these cases and these high profile cases, these things are life changing. Now you look at the old is Dirk right now. I don't know. Look at somebody to find out how old how old Dirk is.

SPEAKER_14 28:26

33. 33. He can't a dime, he's 43. He ain't gonna do the whole dime. If he get a dime in the feds, they got so many programs, they have so many. Oh, he's yeah, yeah, he's definitely gonna be yeah. He be pushing it, he'd be close to it. If not 40 close to it, 39-ish.

SPEAKER_02 28:42

But he got core, he got core fans, so you know what I mean. It's just an unf unfortunate situation.

SPEAKER_14 28:48

Very unfortunate, man. Very unfortunate. He's going through turmoil right now. He's going through a bunch of regret right now, you know, of things that he probably could have drivenly. Oh, his mind is definitely sharpened more than it was before he came in. His mind is sharpened. I'm talking about fine sharp.

SPEAKER_02 29:07

Yeah, yeah. Sometimes you just go through trials and tribulations, man. Sometimes it just makes it either gonna make or break you. Did you ever feel like quitting when you was in there? Like you like, damn man, my life is over.

SPEAKER_14 29:16

You you can't quit. You in there. Like, what you gonna do? Hang it up, kill yourself, commit suicide?

SPEAKER_02 29:21

Some people do.

SPEAKER_14 29:21

Yeah, a lot of people do.

SPEAKER_02 29:22

But you never thought about killing yourself?

SPEAKER_14 29:23

Nah, I ain't never thought about killing myself.

SPEAKER_02 29:25

You ever thought about like, you know, was the stress ever like to the point where you felt like it was unbearable where you just wanted to just pull your hair out? Well, we ain't got no hair now, but I'm saying back then.

SPEAKER_14 29:32

Nah, mm-mm. I'll be mad sometime, probably going to sell, probably shed a tear or whatever. After that, I shake it off and be right back on the block playing dominoes or something. But you have your moments in there, but I never had a moment to wish though, oh, it's over. No.

SPEAKER_02 29:45

I guess in there, you I guess in there you learn how to cope with it.

SPEAKER_14 29:47

You go, yeah. You one thing about the human body, the human body can adapt to any situation. It might take you a while, might take you a day, two, three, but you will adapt.

SPEAKER_02 29:55

But it's guys in there who who don't adapt and they just go, they go crazy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 30:00

It's a lot of them.

SPEAKER_02 30:01

What's that stuff you said they drink the sinequine? What is it?

SPEAKER_14 30:03

No, that's this medication. That's not that it's a pill. But a dudes are, you know, uh what they give you one a night and they put you to sleep. And do might save up four or five of them and then mix it in a hot concoction, like have a hot juice, you know what I mean? Drop off, let it all melt down in there, and it's like a it's like, you know what I mean? A drink now. You got you a drink.

SPEAKER_02 30:22

And now they twist it like a daggone braid.

SPEAKER_14 30:25

Twisted out they mind. It might be three, four people on that cup.

SPEAKER_02 30:30

But I'm saying now, but in that situation, in that type of oppression, some people can't or they let their mind go too far away, so they can't deal with it. They they just let it just overwhelm them and take every take the life out of them. Yeah. And and then sometimes the family members don't even know they like that in jail.

SPEAKER_14 30:49

The family members be the first one to know they like that. They don't hide that. The family members be the one, you know, that's constantly there, that constantly hear their calls. They're badly pleased. They ain't in there just holding it in. No, that that joint is contagious. That joint leaks off to the next person. Yeah, there ain't nothing that gets held in when you feel like miserable and ready, give up. No, you really be that's a form of uh crying out for help.

SPEAKER_02 31:10

Another thing I want to say too, every hood, every every part of, you know, I'm just talking about our city. I'm and I'm assuming other cities is like this as well. Every every part of your city has some good guys and some good, some some good men and some good women. You know what I'm saying? I think the good men and the good women in their communities and their blocks and their neighborhoods need to rally all the troops, man. I'm saying, like all the young boys. Just rally, if everybody can rally them, and the older guys, we can stop a lot of stuff, man. If everybody is rallying the troops, nah, dang, dang.

SPEAKER_14 31:43

I don't I don't think that's gonna work. You the niggas going out there to guys, these young boys don't even know who people is at. They don't know who the big names is in the city. You tell them about some elders that's well respected in the city, they about who that?

SPEAKER_02 31:54

But it gotta be it gotta be somebody close to them and it's close to you. Yeah. So that's what I'm saying. So this is happening.

SPEAKER_14 32:00

If you look at all the young boys on watching, yeah, but you how you how you gonna rile and calm them down when people done died already?

SPEAKER_02 32:06

But I'm but hear me out. Hear me out. You see how we had the thing at um at the gym. At the gym. And the young boys came.

SPEAKER_14 32:14

Turn right around and get indicted.

SPEAKER_02 32:16

No, but hold up. But you said it was watching them three years ago, so we can't get it. Okay, okay, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_14 32:20

But they still was doing stuff, they still was doing it.

SPEAKER_02 32:22

Okay, but you can't attribute that because you didn't always watch them. That was only like last year. Right. So now you get like we did with them at the barbershop, you get other guys, other places doing the same thing, and then you bring them somehow together. Maybe even the leaders, our meeters, meeters here, no guns, no weapons. One or two people, and they come and we sit down and we talk amongst them, amongst them, and now you can probably find a way to stop all these shooting and this killing. You know what I'm saying? Otherwise, because we just look, think about it. Do you think if we'd have gone to uh Yacht or or F FSing them in a manner of like, yo, put the uh weapons down or whatever's going on, not saying this is what's going on. But I'm saying, if you'd have gone to them in a manner or talked to them, you think that would have stopped them?

SPEAKER_14 33:03

No, absolutely not. No, not even a little bit. Me, regular old black nigga. Yo, man, y'all need to from the life that I done did all that. Now I'm talking about telling them to do no, absolutely. They'd have left that conversation like um don't lost his goddamn mind. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 33:20

I don't know. I had to talk to them.

SPEAKER_14 33:22

Yeah, all right, well, yeah, all right. Well, maybe you, maybe they'd have done something different for you. Which I think absolutely not.

SPEAKER_02 33:29

You don't think so?

SPEAKER_14 33:30

Yes, I think I don't think so. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 33:32

What make you think that again?

SPEAKER_14 33:34

What do you mean what make you think that again? They out there, they own their own cars. Uh I go up to them like, yo, man, put the guns down, man. If they were to be carrying guns, put the guns down, do this and do that, do this the right way, man, get a job. I'll leave that night, they go get a job and shit tomorrow, huh? Go fill out applications tomorrow, huh?

SPEAKER_02 33:48

I don't know. You don't know.

SPEAKER_14 33:49

I I know. Ask me. You're talking about you don't know. Ask me. I'm actually No, they wouldn't have did that. Absolutely not. They wouldn't have done no. I don't know why they just wouldn't have done it. They got their mind concept. This will make them put the game on the guns though. What? Where they at now? Them guns is gonna be to the moon. Where they at now, if they get convicted on charges that they're uh allegations for, yeah, that will this is the ultimate uh uh what would you would you call it when you're getting disciplined disciplined? Yeah, you talking about some, yeah. I think if I'd have gone to them and told them put the gun. Boy, who you go go stop violence then. Go go out in there and go to these hoods where it's going down and let me see. I'm gonna be up here by myself, like yo, man. Let's in peace, man. Son Lake, man, tall feet. But today brothers tall feek ain't here with us no more. He was down Diamond Street talking about put the guns down. Well, yeah, the hat gonna be down there. You know how they got the the commercial, but yeah, brother tall feet tells in the gyms on the news. A shoe, you're gonna see that boot right there with that hat. Nobody, that's it. I'll be crying all in the background. No, tell us to the gym. No, no, no, absolutely not. Yo, you don't think that's gonna work? No, I know it ain't gonna work. You go there to the hood, somebody put the guns there if you want to. You say you're not doing that? No, I'm gonna sit right here on this couch and let them hear about it. I'm not going up and no, no, no. I just look. I was born that night, not last night.

SPEAKER_02 35:12

Yeah, but you uh you are um, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_14 35:14

You no, no, no. Come on, man. Move it on, move it on, move it on, man.

SPEAKER_02 35:18

I just said you can't take it, take your time and say, all right. Yeah, thank you. Um walk from you can't you want you, you're not gonna walk, you're not gonna walk from like Broadnary all the way down every block. I'm all the way down to Spring.

SPEAKER_14 35:29

No, see you just say something just see we but my my my man uh Joseph Deneray, Denrero, Deniro, Joseph De Niro, from saying that right 32. Feek be living in a whole different world sometimes.

SPEAKER_12 35:42

Hello, I'm just saying, man.

SPEAKER_14 35:45

Like, true story. He thinks he's superman. Yeah, what's up with y'all? Yeah. These dudes need to be in prison. Uh shit different now because, yeah, yeah. Feet definitely ain't see the Warriors before. You know what I mean? Feet think it's 1980.

SPEAKER_02 36:05

But what I'm saying though, listen, what I'm saying to you is this though, right? You are Brian.

SPEAKER_14 36:11

No, no, no, you keep you keep asking the same. We already talked about this. Feet, let's move on to. I'm not no, I'm not talking to nobody. I'm not, and that's not gonna happen. I don't care how many times you ask me, they got a problem with that. You keep wanting to ask the question in all these different manners, but it's the same thing. No, I'm not going out to talk nobody in the hood. And if I did, I don't think that none of them is putting the guns down going to get a job this week.

SPEAKER_02 36:33

You might get one though. That might be well.

SPEAKER_14 36:35

Go ahead. I'm gonna promote you. I'll even drive you and stop down the street and park down the street and let you walk up and talk. I will do that. The first sign of poop pop boom. I'm not gonna talk feek is up there uh 39th and come. Yeah, please help them out. Yeah, that's what's the I'm not gonna be up there, man. You ain't gonna see this new balance up there in the middle of the street. Nope.

SPEAKER_02 36:56

All right. So look, we just did a at the box today. So you do something like that though, right?

SPEAKER_14 37:00

No, not I did that with my nephew. I ain't doing that with a no, I ain't doing nothing like that. You just said that you I said I did no. We're up here talking. Hopefully, we catch an air. I'm not hands-on, I'm not the police. I'm not out here, you know, knocking on doors and trying to get no. I'm not doing that. This is crazy as hell out here. We ain't fake up here. You not doing it either. You just up here trying to get some giggles. Oh, that's the truth. Ain't nobody no, it's not no truth.

SPEAKER_02 37:26

Let's be clear. We had the right setting, right? Ain't never gonna be no right setting. I'm not just walking up on a group of young boys like yo, why not? Well, well, well, how else you gonna do it? I would do it in the right setting. Like, you know, come, I'm gonna invite y'all to something, y'all come and talk to y'all.

SPEAKER_14 37:38

And you think they're gonna listen and put the guns there. Everybody gonna leave out of there and be like, yo, yeah, we don't need these no more, or stop putting them in the bag in there for you. You're right. You right, we don't need these joints. Like, what application you got? You think that's gonna happen?

SPEAKER_02 37:49

I'm not saying that.

SPEAKER_14 37:50

I'm just saying that because if it could happen like that, it won't be nobody. You think people ain't tried that already? You think people way before us ain't tried to walk up on these kids in neighborhoods and talk to them? Dudes that have been in prison a long time. You think they these dudes ain't seen this encounter that we're talking about right now? Yeah, feek, sometimes some I don't think you woke up fully from this morning's uh sleep from overnight. No, what I'm saying is No, it ain't no no, you're saying something foolish. What? You are you walk up an event and we're gonna change these young boys' mind in one little outing, an hour outing. You never know. No, I know, I know. You talking about you, you never know. I know. That's why I'm gonna let you do all that talking that day.

SPEAKER_02 38:29

What if you do an event, right? You have like a federal uh federal agent in there and talk to him. I listen, I'm gonna come lock y'all up, y'all shooting guns out here.

SPEAKER_14 38:37

Shout out to 762, thank you, man. Appreciate that.

SPEAKER_02 38:39

A lot of times, you know, like you said, young boys people don't don't really believe the pot is hot until they touch it.

SPEAKER_14 38:45

Exactly. Grown men too.

SPEAKER_02 38:46

Yeah, but I'm saying so. Maybe you bring somebody like a federal agent or some or judge there with you. And you can probably run off and show them and talk to them about things that happen, cases like we do up here. Because we help people like the young boys is gravitating towards us a lot. You know what I'm saying? They say that our podcast is like the you know a good podcast for them to relate to. And it's not just in our city, every city, every city around. It's different young boys from everywhere that you've seen it. We come up to you all the time.

SPEAKER_12 39:14

Black, black, black.

SPEAKER_14 39:16

Yeah, they hype and want to get to meet the person to talk about this. Yes, and as soon as they turn the corner, they looking for the eye. They just forgot about that. They just see a figure, a voice.

SPEAKER_02 39:28

No, man, I'm not no they walk they leave and you go look for the eye.

SPEAKER_14 39:31

Yes, yes, they are. They are. You sitting here acting crazy, bro. Come on, they grinding you up in this chat right now, man. I'm just saying, I'm no, no, that's just sometimes I think you just do stuff just to make it the butt but you you ain't crazy, bro. You're not that no, it's not no real question, or it's a real question that gave you a real answer.

SPEAKER_02 39:46

No, no, you said that we used to be on the corners and all yum.

SPEAKER_14 39:49

And ain't nobody deterring me from going to jail. But it was older guys. I went to jail for two homicides. I went to jail for plenty crap and went to jail for it. I'm doing lied that I made it out and I can tell y'all about these experiences. But I ain't listening to none of them old heads that came up on that corner. But we but they talk to us though. All right, we're talking about listening. What's wrong with you? I mean, I'm talking go ahead. You take over the segment, man. Because you you you you you you you burns me out, bro. It's not a game, bro. No, but you keep talking about, you keep saying, but they talking to you. All right, they're talking. Hold on, listen. Ain't nobody listening, bro. It won't be no crime out here if people was listening. It's people talking other than us. You have other podcasts, other platforms that's trying to stop this negativity that's going on at a warming rate in these ghettos. Ain't nobody listening. The ones, the little fews and twos we can get, that's it. That's all we can hope for. Come on, man. You bring and make this joint like it's a game. It's not a game, it's real life.

SPEAKER_02 40:44

What I'm saying to you is this.

SPEAKER_14 40:46

Please don't ask me a question that you asked me already, man, that I answered 19 times in different ways.

SPEAKER_02 40:50

Okay, so what I'm asking you this is you know, you still not gonna walk up on somebody and talk about now. If they come to me, what's up, young buttons? What's on your mind? It's a lie, man. I just seen you the other day. I came out the crib, you had a young boy in the middle of the street talking.

SPEAKER_14 41:08

Yeah, he stopped me, he really jumped out of the car and ran over. I was ready to run. And he running. I'm like, yo, what's this? And I was backing up there. He like, no, no, no, no, cool. Tell us. I'm like, oh my cool. What's up, young boy? Yeah, I was ready to get on my bike. That way, yeah. No, yeah, you talking about came out the creepy. Yeah, he came to me. You like you call him nephew and all that, but I see you talking to him.

SPEAKER_02 41:30

I'm like, yo, I did talk to him. You do that a lot though.

SPEAKER_14 41:33

Yes, they if they stop and say something, yo, I'm gonna go in and give them because they're acknowledging, like, yo, I like all right, look, check this out, man. This stuff really works. I mean, if you get a job, man, if you keep your nose clean, you're gonna enjoy life a little better, you're gonna feel better about yourself. Yes, I'm gonna give them the word. Like, how we up here pumping it? I'm gonna give them that, but I'm not walking up to no crowd. They all out front of the poppy store, tree blowing and all that, and all yo, we all this tails in the jails, man. Y'all think y'all wanna put the gut? No, I'm not doing nothing like that. Is you crazy? Lost your damn mind. All right, so but you will, if they approach you, you will. Yes, I will converse with them and get them some Jews. They can sell if they chose.

SPEAKER_02 42:08

All right, that's cool. That's cool. I can I can live with that. I can live with that. But you, you know, this you telling me you're gonna drop me off and me walk up the street. That's that was a little deep. You know what I mean? But at the end of the day, bro, like we got we gotta continue to try to keep pushing positivity to help help the you know the youth. Everybody that's listening or watching the podcast, we need y'all help, man. That's all I'm saying. This guy, he you know, listen, if y'all see him in the community talking to these young these young guys, y'all would see like, yo, he's doing it. He's actually doing it. But honestly, he's saying he's not walking up on a group of them.

SPEAKER_14 42:41

No, I'm not walking up, I'm not walking up on none of them. It always happened. I don't know who these kids is. They'll stop. And then I'm pulling right in because they they they're showing me a little receptiveness, like they're listening a little bit. So when they one of them address me, oh, Terry's from the jails, right? Oh, yeah, what's up? But I'm still Larry. What you mean? You mad about the message that I'm pumping? Once I get past all that and I see that they're in tune to listen a little bit, I drop it on by low. Yeah, listen, such and such, such and such, such and such, such. And I'm out. I'm still out. Pew. I'm not, yeah, man. He got to take that and he got to formulate it and become his own man. That's it. I can't force them to do nothing. But I ain't walking in the we damn diamond street projects in the summertime. They they hopping around in guns and uh and big beat. I'm not walking up to them, I mean, we and my folks out of there. That big crowd of kids and that's yes, and everybody had assault rifles.

SPEAKER_02 43:33

And you wouldn't go there and oh, y'all say everybody stop right now. Put the gun. You wouldn't do that.

SPEAKER_14 43:37

Would you? Would you? Let me ask you, would you? Man, I don't know. You might, you might. I asked you that. You might be over there like Salah Lakeum. Signal, everybody. Ain't nobody trying to hear that right now, bro. So you wanna tell the middle of the crowd? Absolutely not. I'm out. As soon as I seen it, I'd have been able to eat my burger and looked up to the beats and sink that, dropped that, and left. Yeah, I'm out of here. Man, I ain't no old. If I ain't get this old for nothing.

unknown 44:04

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 44:05

Alright. Alright, well, you know. Because these type of those type of events where the stuff going on, they start putting the guns in there. It's like it's over now. Something, something bound to happen. Somebody bound to get shot. Yeah. And that's what happened.

SPEAKER_14 44:17

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 44:19

Innocent people get shot. Yeah. Girls and everything.

SPEAKER_14 44:21

Yeah, I ain't playing them type of games, man, with these kids, man.

SPEAKER_02 44:24

Alright, flip side. Say you seen your son or your nephew in that crowd. You tell him to come with you, you know, so like I'm out, man.

SPEAKER_14 44:30

Yeah, I'm I'm going up to him and be like, yo, man, come on, man. Take a minute, take this walk with me. As soon as he showed any type of defiance, like, no, pop, like, what you mean? All right, I ain't gonna discipline him there because they try, they might try to get out on me. He got all his friends around. They're like, damn, what's up with your pop? I hear him saying little stuff as I'm walking away. All right, I see him when he gets home. Am I breaking him up? I'm going right for waste, I'm snatching his drawers off, and I'm doing all that just to make sure ain't no firearms on him. And I'm crushing him. You're gonna have to come back and kill me because you ain't gonna do it right now. But other than that, no, you gotta be you see the way that man, this stuff is dangerous out here, bro. It's 2026, man. This joint, this joint has flipped. It's no integrity, there's no more. A dude to kill your mother and be happy about that and rap about it, bro. Like we grew up with a little bit, even though we was breaking law and doing things in our ignorance, but we still had some some some balance with us. I'm not gonna shoot the carb because I see his old lady in there. I see his mom, but they don't care about nothing. They throwing babies at me. This is the op. This is my op baby. But they I seen a draw on on the reel the other day. I think it was in Chicago, and it was a girl, she was probably about 17, 16 going inside a store, like a footlocker or something. But it was one of the op's girlfriends. They was beating her with belts, man. It was but like who thinks of doing like yeah, we got we got uh little P-Lo uh girlfriend there, and they whooping her in her face and they she on the ground, she don't know that she's just the boyfriend of one of the dudes that they don't like. Come on, bro. When you ever beat a girl with a belt like that in the middle of the street from an op. Never like come on, bro. The times, and then it's gonna get even crazier before it gets better, man. I'm not walking up no crowds talking about some tails. No, they're gonna sit right there. What if they choose to turn the channel on? This is where they're gonna have hear it at an alarming rate.

SPEAKER_02 46:20

Wow, that's crazy, man. No, um, there's a flip side to that situation. That was your daughter. I'm coming.

SPEAKER_14 46:29

You're not beating my daughter with no belt and bed, ain't coming. I'm and it ain't coming to talk. So I ain't scared of it. I know what I'm gonna do.

SPEAKER_04 46:38

Okay.

SPEAKER_14 46:39

I'm fining it up, and I'm not saying that's right. I'm telling you what I'm doing. The wrong thing. I'm fining it up, and that's just it. She came all in there, whelps all on the head from belt buckles. Come on, bro. What you doing? You talking about let's read this khatab? Silentwake him? It's time to offer the McGrib. What are you doing?

SPEAKER_02 47:00

I'll probably offer the McGrib before I go.

SPEAKER_14 47:01

I'm not offering, I'm offering the McGrib in the jail tonight. I got to make that back up. Got the young Arb Jackson. Yes, sir. Right here, we're going to the unit to offer this McGrib in here real fast. Yeah, that's uh afterwards. Usually crazy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 47:16

God, man. You know, man. I just, you know, I understand. These things happen and these types of situations, you know, you gotta figure it out. And I don't know, I don't know what to do. It's like it's I keep pushing our positive notion about and inform people about prison and what's gonna happen. And and also the success stories are are actually really, really prevalent. There's some good guys who went to jail and came home.

SPEAKER_14 47:40

A lot of them, bro. A lot. And then you don't hear so much of it because they be to themselves now. You'll have a couple of them, like our man Christopher uh Wilde, what's his name? That we had up here on the park. Yeah, Christopher Willis, man. Shout out to Christopher Willis down there with the great work of the uh jail content, not to be glamorizing or glorifying it, but bringing awareness. You have a lot of dudes, you know, that come home that be just like us, but they to themselves now. If it wasn't for you, I'd have been to myself. I would have never done this. I would have, I'm being honest with y'all, but I feel good about doing it. I had someone help me and pull me in the direction to be a motivational speaker. That's all we is up here. We're motivational speakers, man. We're trying to detour you from going to jail. That's our main goal. I hate prison and I ain't trying to go back. So if I can not go back, I'm gonna try to help a other couple other people not go back. But that's all it is. But a lot of dudes, man, come home and be in their ways. They know how to conduct themselves now as men. They know the right from wrong fully, they know how to address the situation because of the time they did, but they're not vocal, they're not out there trying to help, they're not on a platform trying to spread, but that don't make them wrong because they ain't doing that. They just to themselves and they know how to conduct theirs and everything underneath their you know, guidance. That's it, bro. A lot of dudes be stand off. It's like, man, I ain't telling them young boys nothing. They're gonna have they'll learn.

SPEAKER_02 49:01

And it's like, it's crazy now. Like, you know, a lot of these young boys got firearms, like 12 years old. Like um, like Spader was saying, this 12-year-old's up in the juvenile facility with like multiple murders. Yeah, I know. How you 12 multiple murders?

SPEAKER_14 49:17

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 49:18

We might have had guns at that young enough, but we were right, we wasn't trying to kill them. We was trying, we were trying to get some money.

SPEAKER_14 49:22

Yeah, yeah. It ain't about no money nowadays.

SPEAKER_02 49:26

Yeah, it's like I said, we talked about the indictment of YBC. It's I was like a indictment. You never seen nothing about no, you ain't seen nothing, nothing about no money.

SPEAKER_14 49:32

At all.

SPEAKER_02 49:34

Dang.

SPEAKER_14 49:35

Oh man. My man, my man, uh Peaceful Journey 7228. Oh no, he erased it. But I still quote it, though. He said, Iftar is in jail forever after they done whooped my daughter with a belt. If Tarz forever, hey Robadow, he in that joke.

SPEAKER_02 49:55

I mean, at that point, it's mighty do that, man. Like, you gotta, you gotta, you know, enforce some type of punishment on him. Like, you can't let you just get away with that, bro. Like, you gotta you gotta know better. This is a girl. Has nothing to do with the beef. You wanna beat her with a belt in front of a store and record it too?

SPEAKER_14 50:15

Uh, I'm gonna I wanna respond back to this. Uh Huden the biggest. Hughin the biggest. I don't do it. 7906, if I'm saying that correctly, but he's gonna know what I'm talking about. But he said uh it ain't just the young'in, the young'ins, you old MFs far going too. You are absolutely correct with your assessment in that, you know, statement. Um, us old people is fools, man. We took it took us a long time to get here. I'm gonna speak for myself. I was a fool. Sometimes I can still be a fool, but I got some common sense with me now. I got a little bit of it. I got a matter of fact, I got a lot of it. You know, to be up here even talking about this, you know, these topics and stuff. Like me and my brother bring these topics to y'all at a Lorman rate. But yeah, like I always tell him, we don't just classify the young boys and attack them, like going at them, like y'all need to do. No, because it starts with us. Because they only copying what they see done. They that's all they doing. They just don't wake up and and be like, oh, a gun. I want to gun just think of a gun. No, they sing that, so they mimic it. They think it's the the thing to do, they think it's a fad. So, yes, you are absolutely right. It starts with the old mother effers, like you said.

SPEAKER_02 51:23

Yeah, it's a uh terrible, terrible situation, man. You know what I mean? It's just like sometimes old heads, older guys don't get it yet.

SPEAKER_14 51:31

Was there ever a time me and Fik ain't speak? Yeah, when he left me when I was jailed, he turned his life around, right? And who's who said that? So uh uh uh uh uh Mr. Lom's Lom Lomdes, if I'm saying it right, Mr. L O L O M D S E. Uh he's his his thing he said, was it ever a time that you and Feek didn't speak? Yeah, he left me high and dry one time in jail, man. Caught him one time. This is the time he still was playing around in the streets, but I was indicted. You know, he was at the at the gate of making a transition to change in his life. And and I understand now, in hindsight, on a damn, this is why he had to do that. He had to he had to go re had to go recalibrate his stuff. And when you recalibrate in yourself, you got to let everything go that was present in your life. You gotta you gotta when I say let it go, meaning give it some distance where you can have full control of your thoughts without no interference from no outside uh other thoughts. If you really want to change yourself, and that's the start, you still got a whole lot more to do other than just think it through. You gotta walk it through now, actually walk it. It was like about two years that we didn't speak for. I was I was in, I was locked up and he was home.

SPEAKER_02 52:44

I think like a year or some change, probably probably something like that.

SPEAKER_14 52:46

But I was I round about two, you know what I'm saying? And the next time I talked to him again, the funds was low. I'm like, yo, send me a deuce real fast. You know, I'm knowing my man out there getting a whole lot of money and all that deuces don't be nothing. I can get two of them in a month. And um, he like, well, shoot, I got about a little 30, but 30, 30, what you out there doing, cuz? And man, I'm done, man. I'm done, man. And I'm thinking he's playing because I know I was just out there with you, like a couple years, like I know the routes we was going to get some money. We ain't just sitting around doing that. But the man absolutely turned his life around. He's like, What'd they say? 360, I'm gonna say 900,000 degrees, he did. And um, and and that comes with a curve, like like it comes with letting go things and then bringing back stuff that you want to put in your life, you know what I'm saying? So, yeah, that do happen. That did happen.

SPEAKER_02 53:35

And that was the hardest thing I ever did in my life. Hardest thing I ever did in my life. I like it, it's nothing else that I mean it's some other things, but that right there was the hardest transition I ever made in my life, man. Like, I ain't gonna lie. I mean, like, people already understand that joint. That's why I see why when I see people that just like man, I want to change. It's hard to program yourself when you're solely dependent on doing something and that's all you know how to do. Or at least you think that, and then you just stop and you're trying to figure it out, and you don't want to do it no more. But it's like it's a tough, tough stuff. You know, if you can make it through it though, and you get through it, you'll be a whole different person. So that's even the young boys. However, you as old or young, if you can do it, like it's gonna be now listen, you're gonna get tested in that. You're gonna lose, you're gonna lose a lot. You're gonna um your availability is not gonna be there, you're trying to figure it out, you're trying to just do everything different. You're gonna get tested financially. That's probably the first thing you get tested with financially. And then once you get once you once you can get past the fact of not being able to, you know, live a certain lifestyle anymore, you're gonna um you'll be okay. I mean, but that joint difficult, man. Difficult. And then people still can't do it to this day. People still gotta keep one foot in, one foot out, or two feet, two feet in, and then you got two cuffs on your wrist. But it just sometimes it's hard, man. That's a hard, you know what I mean? Because you you just went through it.

SPEAKER_13 55:01

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 55:03

You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_13 55:04

I went through it, whoa, whoa, let me not agree to everything because you like being funny. I just went through what?

SPEAKER_02 55:09

Went through the transition of not doing the wrong thing anymore.

SPEAKER_14 55:12

And I'm still going through it though, Toffee.

SPEAKER_02 55:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 55:14

Like sometimes I wake up every day, I think about selling some yerks. I think about grabbing that firearm, and I'm a human, y'all.

SPEAKER_02 55:21

You're gonna do it. What should you do with a firearm?

SPEAKER_14 55:22

Or running one of these stores, see if I can get some for loops.

SPEAKER_02 55:26

They don't hold.

SPEAKER_14 55:28

Let me just let me get the floor before you come in with your games and playing. I'm not playing, sir. These are just thoughts. Do I act on them? No. I do not act on them. It gets crunchy. I got a little job. I'm not, I'm not rich. I'm not, you know, by any means necessary. I'm just making it through. I'm sliding through these little cracks legitly, paying bills. I feel good. I might be broke after doing all that, but I'll be like, yeah, this phone on another month. I get to stay in this little house another month. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, that's done. Now I got to worry about getting it done for next week. Human, you're human. You always, especially if you come from a background like we came from, and there's a lot of y'all that's the audience that come from a background like that. Yes, you will ponder and think, like, damn, I used to make, like I used to ask you, all that money you used to make on a block, bro. You don't when you was broke laying on the floor with your kids, man, you ain't never think, like, damn, I go get me a little chumpy real fast, run that joint off real fast.

SPEAKER_02 56:18

Well you say the block, the block had three shifts, right? It was 10 to 6, 60, 62, and 2 to 10. Each shift doing Danny 10, 10 to 15,000, 10. I mean, or we're gonna do 10,000 on a shift at least on easy. So you making that you you flipping a brick and like bagged up and 12, 12, 58, how you want to do it. You doing that, you're doing a brick and danny three days, two days. You know what I mean? So throughout a whole week, you you I'm talking bagged up, you doing a brick of cocaine like that. And you doing like three, three to four bricks a week bagged up, and you you doing that on a regular, regular basis. Easy. Well, you doing on on a Sunday, you Sunday, everything closed. You doing Danny 20 grand on Sunday. Easy on the block. Or you know, whatever you doing. So and to be able to walk away from stuff like that and do stuff and then change your life with that. I mean, it's like that's going crazy. So that's just a that's just a a mirror of walking into stuff like that, man. And not to mention what you're doing outside with the block going. Some people, you know, some people might might sell weight, you know. Uh four and a half, uh, I mean a half off each point is a four and a half off each joint. And you might got ten bricks you're selling weight. And you're taking a half ounce off each, four and a half, you know what I mean? Getting a free free four and a half on each. You know what I'm saying? So every eight bricks, you may get a whole, a whole, a whole, a whole free one. And then you just doing that on a regular basis and doing that, you know, just hustling, and you gotta walk away from that. And some people do it at larger scales than that. So it's just a matter of just being able to do to walk away.

SPEAKER_14 57:59

It's hard, bro. You wanted to, you know what I mean? It's hard, it's hard to do that. You just just imagine you coming from making buku money a week, a month, illegal, to shutting that down to having a job that pay you barely$500 every five days after taxes. And then you don't have a vehicle because it keeps breaking down. You got to use transportation. So let's deduct the transportation to and fro from work every autumn five days. That's about what? A being 50?

SPEAKER_06 58:31

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_14 58:32

Deuce? Just think that comes from your check. Like, you you you you working to get you're working to pay your fare back and forth to work. Like, that's a wild situation if you think about it, bro. You got people out here, the about time they get that check, like that 200, like they got nothing. They got nothing. So how easy is it for one that knows that he was out there? Because you know, you got a lot of people that's out there hustling and getting no money. You got dudes just standing out there in the way. You might as well go get you a job, dumb dumb. You up here all day long. You came up in this drawing with 70 cents in your pocket, two quarters and two dimes. You came up here and you left with$17 and been up here 12 hours, 14 hours. Get your ass a job. Man, when you're making money, not saying it's right. But it's hard to shake that thought and not go back to it. And you did that. We was making some good money out there. Good money. But you know, it comes a point to where a man, a man, just because you have a penis and balls don't mean you're a man. You got a lot of little boys running around with that. They boys. And a man ahead and he gotta make that decision is like, do I keep wanting that? Because it comes at a price. Getting that fast money comes at a price. It's a price to pay. You got to pay for getting that money, man. And that's the truth.

SPEAKER_02 59:52

Yeah, so you know, and and the best thing I ever did was that changed my life, you know, in a lot of different ways. You know, got closer to my Lord, got closer to a lot of different things, and you know, trials and tribulations, man, and it was hard, hard times, but you know, you can make it through it. But like people be scared of that, be afraid of that that that hard, difficult time. You know what I'm saying? Just the the thought of uh of poverty actually or not having no money, it scares everybody. It's it scares it like the the normal anybody, it just scares you, you know what I'm saying? And it and it's normal. Not saying it ain't normal, it just scares you. Like, oh, I ain't got no money. It's gonna scare you. But when you get uh past the aspect of uh the fear of not having any money and just volume your safe your safety, your livelihood, your family, your wife, your children, you value that over the money. You know what I'm saying? It's gonna it's gonna make you a better person.

SPEAKER_13 1:00:48

I believe so.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:53

But yeah, man, I want to thank everybody who's been tuning in, listening to the podcast, man. You about to get to these phone calls in a minute, man, so we can get to talk to y'all, man, and see what's going on, man. And uh I know the number, man. 215-316-4492. That's 215-316-4492. As usual, we look forward to talking to y'all, man. You know, and um also I want to speak uh shout out anybody looking for home care in um the Jersey area, reach out to Empath, you know, where they you know, where they understand home care. You know, shout out to my uh my guy, you know, my guy Mark. You know, if you ever looking for home care, check out Empath. Google that. Empath is, you know, the best home care agency in the state of New Jersey. Reach out to them. Be a loved one. Get you right. Um But yeah, man, you know, just life is just crazy. 215-316-4492. That's 215-316-4492.

SPEAKER_14 1:01:52

Phones is open, man. Tap in, man. I want to hear from y'all, man. The ladies, where my ladies at, man. I know a bunch of y'all, your man got questions, got, you know, uh, you know, sadly got dudes is incarcerated, man, for you know, whatever the case may be. Oh, yeah, call in, man. Holl at us, man. You know, I like to answer the questions, man. I like to contact, you know, converse with the with the audience, man. And um, and see what's on your mind. Man, y'all might got a lot of questions, man. A lot of questions, man. Let's go.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:19

And I don't think crown ever gonna stop completely. Tell us from the jails. We speaking with what's going on, man.

SPEAKER_10 1:02:29

This is OG again from the bottom.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:31

What's up, OG? Yeah, what's up with you, bro? What's going on, man?

SPEAKER_10 1:02:35

Like I just was checking y'all out, man. I had a uh I guess it was it just I had a it was like I had a moment, man. Uh what you were talking about, you know, when you change your life, whatever, and you basically start from zero after you used to get so much money or whatever. And uh that's just difficult, man. Like I understand what you're talking about. And I don't I don't want to use my real you know, my name that and I go by but uh I was I was I was I was out there.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:04

Yeah, well many.

SPEAKER_10 1:03:10

And then that ain't easy to do after you're making so much, like you said, making so much money or whatever, and you just stop. Well I had to read the line stop because like I called my name and a light. And uh like my lawyer called me and uh and told me for shit or whatever. And it was it was time it was time to stop. I had to I had to chill like like cold herky, like it's worth it. Like it's worth it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:46

Shout out to you, man. You did it. Shout out to you, bro. You did it, man.

SPEAKER_10 1:03:50

You know, I did time before. And I got out, I was chilling for about I got out December 2894. I didn't hustle again until uh the end of 06, and it was like I did somebody a favor. Like I knew somebody and I did a favor for somebody. Like a like connected, you know, it was like a favorite, then that shit just got me all the way out here again, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:18

Yeah, well, well you listen, you understand, and and it's okay if you slip and fall, but you gotta, you know, went you gotta, but you gotta recognize and realize that the opportunity um um to change your life comes with hardships. You know what I'm saying? Pitfalls, you know, things of that nature. But man, thank you for calling in, man. And Joey Knight, bro. Shout out to th shout out to Mom Vernon.

SPEAKER_14 1:04:40

All right, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:44

Yeah, call in, man. Let us know what's going on, man. 215-316-4492. That's 215-316-4492. The lines is open right now, so you know, we're looking to see who's gonna call in.

SPEAKER_14 1:04:58

The weekend is fastly approaching again. Tomorrow is hump day, you know. Make sure that y'all, you know what I mean, y'all staying aware, man. At all. One thing about being aware, you gotta be aware. You it you can't turn awareness off. And I really thought about that the other day, like being aware, you're not perfect, but be on point, stay on point, stay aware.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:18

Like, you got the tell us from the jails who we speaking with. Yo, this is Mo from West Phillip. Shout out to Mo. What's up, Chico? What part of West Philly are you from? Where's there at hand? Oh, you from the hood. You from down island. Yeah, we down from down Brooklyn.

SPEAKER_07 1:05:36

Yo, I w I wanna speak on what y'all think about the dudes out here that's just in the way. That's not making no money, but they're in the streets, like. You're not even successful at being a criminal, like I I just now said basically rich.

SPEAKER_14 1:05:50

I I just I just now I just now say I just now was up here talking about it's crazy that you said that just now. For the dudes is out there, you Know they come out with the 70 cents in their pocket and go back home with 17 in their pocket. Like, bro, go get you a job, bro. You out here ready to get one of the best killings of your life or one of the best arrests of your life. Go ahead home, man. They be the ones that get shot first from the drive by. Oh, little Pookie wasn't out there selling nothing to nothing. He just out there with the guys. Pookie, take your ass to work. You know what I'm saying? That's just it.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:24

Like, just get a job, like, bro. Like, you making it, you're not making enough to even rip, like, you know what I'm saying? That's a that's another mindset that we gotta change. Like, just thinking, like, that's the easiest way to think. Let me go, let me go do this, let me go sell this, let me go grab this. That's the easiest way to think. If you just think outside the box, that's the hard that's the harder way to think. Like, why not just challenge yourself, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_14 1:06:46

Exactly. And then when you get into that, when you get into that thinging outside the box and you start to see that it works for you, it becomes like walking, man. It becomes like walking.

SPEAKER_07 1:06:57

You can meet women at the job. You can like, you don't just gotta deal with girls that on the streets and you know what I'm saying? Girls that look up for that type, but you can start meeting some other sophisticated women type. You know what I mean? It's just better, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:10

That's all I wanted to say. Yeah, well, thanks for your call, man. Appreciate that.

SPEAKER_14 1:07:13

Appreciate that, bro. Man, you be safe out there and stay free.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:16

Uh too. Sorry. And but the though those people is actually a part of the game. They they just they just props. They have props in the actual movie or whatever, or props in the game. That's just a part of the game. You're gonna have everybody not gonna be rich, everybody not gonna be hustling, but you're gonna have those who want to stand in front of the deli wherever they at and get drunk and get high with 70 75 cents in their pocket.

SPEAKER_14 1:07:37

Shout out to Salah Huddin, Sharif. Oh, thank you, man. Thank you. We appreciate that.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:43

All part of the game, man. You know what I'm saying? You know, back in our time, we used to feed them type people like that though. You know what I mean? Five dollars to get you all the information you need about who doing what. They come to you, yeah, you know, they side busting on the side, they selling they over there on that side trying to cut the traffic. You know what I'm saying? Five dollars, you know, you get a hundred people with five dollars. They're telling you, oh, yeah, they're the boys over there trying to cut traffic. I try to tell them that y'all, you know, they can't do this right here. So, you know, they are they they they they are when you're in the street, they uh are you know are valuable, even though they they they don't have any value as far as their finances, but they're valuable to you because now at your stature having money, you can say, uh duh. And they ever try to say happening, yeah, they they run into you telling you what's going on. You know everything. They you know, whenever they get any type of you know, they can have a uh a bike, uh uh, whatever they got to sell, they coming to you first by you just hitting their hands, uh, when they come to you. So you know, them guys is voluble, in my opinion. You agree?

SPEAKER_13 1:08:45

Yeah, very viable.

SPEAKER_08 1:08:48

Tell us from the jail, so we got it's Wax from uh Harper, Connecticut.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:54

Yo, what's up, Wax? Shout out to Harford, Connecticut, man. What's going on?

SPEAKER_08 1:08:58

What up, bro? Yeah, I got a question for black, well, both of y'all for real. So I got a brother that needed a lot of time in the penitentiary. And um, he really hang his hat on that shit, like, with our mother, our other siblings. And I want to know if I was wrong. So we got into a little argument, and I told him, like, you left your you left your daughter out here, bro. I don't know why you keep hanging your hat on that. We got into a fight in front of the family. I want to know if I was wrong for saying what I said.

SPEAKER_14 1:09:33

No, absolutely not. Because he keeps living this false. I uh I find myself doing that sometimes. You know, when I first came home, I meet a girl, and the first thing I said, I did 21 years. I think this is what they like. He's absolutely uh what they call it, institutionalized. They look at some of some of us look at that as a badge of honor. Go to young boys, yo man, I done did 15. What's up, young boy? No, that shit ain't thorough at all, bro. You went absolutely you went wrong in no sense form. You should have, did you not, did you win? Now if you lost that fight, yeah, you better leave bro the hell alone. You get your burby game up. You know what I'm saying? But yeah, you weren't wrong for that, bro. Make them make them see reality. You're no longer in prison and don't nobody care how much time or what you did to go to prison. You better go get you a job and start paying these bills and come on and join the ship. That's just it.

SPEAKER_08 1:10:22

Right. Right. Yeah, that's what my mother, my mother's telling me I need to apologize, but nah, you don't need to apologize to that nigga. I gotta listen to his mom, man.

SPEAKER_14 1:10:29

Nah, we didn't even make that. I ain't mom, I just told mom, all right, my mom, I got it. Nigga, get out of here. That's what I just told him. Listen to your mom. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't listen to talk feet right now. Listen to your mom. Yeah, you listen to your mom telling you I'll do it when you see that nigga and give him a look. Yeah, you want these this left or right again? Which one?

SPEAKER_08 1:10:46

Listen to your mom. Right, yeah. I don't I don't think I was wrong. He needed to hear it.

SPEAKER_14 1:10:49

Yeah, and he needed the pause too. Sometimes, see me, I need to get paws put on me. You know what I'm saying? I'm I don't believe his thing until I smell it. And you can't tell me that pot hot, and I'm gonna just take that for just word value. Yeah, it's hot. I'm not, I gotta touch it. Damn, he was right. That joint hot. I ain't never touching that joint again. Yeah, some people need that, some people was cut from that cloth that need that hard structure. And I was one of them people, and look like your brother was too. But I bet you would be some understanding there, especially if you won.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:17

That's your older brother or younger brother. It's my younger brother. Yeah. Oh, yeah. So you got you got that. Um, your older brothers always beat the young brother up, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, I'm undefeated.

SPEAKER_08 1:11:27

No, I appreciate y'all. Y'all, y'all big out here in Connecticut. Y'all got the whole city behind y'all.

SPEAKER_14 1:11:31

Thank you, man. So the big shout out to the whole Connecticut.

SPEAKER_08 1:11:34

You got the chance to do that. Definitely keep doing what y'all are doing, man. All right, thank you, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:38

Enjoy your night, bro.

SPEAKER_08 1:11:39

All right.

SPEAKER_11 1:11:44

How you doing? This is John from Philly.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:47

What's up, John? Can you turn your TV down a little bit, John? What's up, bro?

SPEAKER_11 1:11:50

Hey, I'm watching y'all now.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:53

Hey, um, where you calling from? From Philly. Philly? What part of Philly?

SPEAKER_11 1:11:57

North.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:58

Oh, shout out to North. What's up, man?

SPEAKER_11 1:12:00

How y'all feel about that queso with with his daddy? Uh this is a question for black. Um, I wanted to know when he was saying that queso gonna get his um not taking accountability and stuff. I how y'all how y'all felt behind that?

SPEAKER_14 1:12:19

Like, I I there's not no way to feel for me anyway, it's just that that man stuck in his ways. I can't feel no type of way of off of how he thinks, how he conducted himself. I could sit there and argue with him till my face goes blue about my point of view, but that's his point of view. I got to respect his point of view and what he said. I, you know, I might not agree with it, but that's him what he's talking about. All right. I can't lose sleep over that. So it ain't make me feel huh? Did it get you mad? Yeah, it got me mad. I got mad because I'm like, how can this fool think that? But you know, then again, he got his own mind to think the way he wanna think. Like, I got my own mind to think the way I'm thinking. So you can't never control that, man, what another person is thinking. That's just it. If a person wanna he stay left and you stay right, what the hell you gonna just black? You gonna die because he's saying left? No, you going right the way you wanna go.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:11

Right.

SPEAKER_14 1:13:11

We our own people, we each uh each different personalities, individuals. But did I have an emotion of getting mad? Yes, because I was mad because he didn't see my logic. But he probably mad at me because I don't see his logic. You know, that's that's the way it goes.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:26

I agree.

SPEAKER_11 1:13:27

Right. I agree. And uh this is the last thing. My uncle, I mean not my uncle, my cousin, was locked up with you at Waybrook, and I was telling him about your platform, and he he was telling me like you you're a good dude. Who was your uncle's name? Leroy. The name Leroy.

SPEAKER_14 1:13:44

Oh, that's my man, old hand Leroy. Leroy was beating him to death up there. Tell Leroy I said what's up, man. Shout out to Leroy, burnt out Leroy. That's my man. Yep. Yeah. All right, man. You enjoy your night, man. Thank you for the call, man, and shout out to y'all, man. Keep standing on business, man, the right way.

SPEAKER_11 1:14:04

Right. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:07

Once again, I don't know if I said it, but shout out to chance, 215, appreciate you. Yeah, man. 215-316-4492. 215-316-4492.

SPEAKER_14 1:14:21

Uh uh Dark Beauty say when we gonna do the live show.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:28

We trying to find the right venue. I know y'all are gonna pack that joint out. We probably have a thousand people in there, man. We're looking. So we gotta get we wanted to get something get a small venue, but we're like, man, it's gonna be crazy. It's gonna be so many people coming in. So we want to get something that's adequate to fit to fit, you know, our entourage, which is the tell us from the gels entourage, which is you know, all y'all listeners and everybody watching, man. So you know but yeah, y'all can't call in 215-316. Tell us from the Jels.

SPEAKER_09 1:15:00

Ah, what's going on? My OG. What's up, man?

SPEAKER_02 1:15:03

Man, we speaking with uh Bando. Bando, where you calling from, bro?

SPEAKER_09 1:15:09

Uh uh West Philly.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:10

Uh West Philly, what part of West Philly? Uh right off uh 68. Uh shout out to you. What's up, man? What's going on?

SPEAKER_09 1:15:19

I can't complain, man. I just wanted to call man for some uh man.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:24

Appreciate that, man. Appreciate that, man.

SPEAKER_09 1:15:27

No, we appreciate everything y'all doing for the community, man, for the youth. Listen, man, be paying attention, man. At an alarming rate. At an alarming rate, that's right. Appreciate that, man. Yep, yep. Go ahead, man. Y'all stay up. Uh I'm tapping in right now, man. I just wanted to call and tapping with my OG, man. Thank you, man, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:49

Appreciate that, bro. Shout out to him, man. Shout out to 60th Street, shout out to you know, whole West Philly, you know, North Philly, South Philly, Uptown. You should be hanging back with it too for a little period of time. Right back with the street, man. Yeah, y'all call in 215-316-4492. That's 215-316-44932. Wait for y'all call, man. Reach out to us, man. We're gonna shut it down in a few minutes. We want to try to take a few more calls if we can. And uh, we can't get any calls and we're gonna shut it down. But once again, 215-316-4492. Line's just open. So, what you got planning on for tonight, man? What you got going on?

SPEAKER_13 1:16:44

Hungry as hell right now.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:46

Tell us from the jail. Tell us from the jails. Alright, man, so yeah, man, we're gonna maybe they want to call right back, man. I don't know the phone wall hangout, but uh once again the episode of Tell us from the jail is sponsored by uh TNS community group real live empire, as you want to say. Uh don't forget to check us out, man. Um, you know, Monday through Friday, sometime even on the on the weekends. Also, our main episode which dropped this week is with Rahlo. Went down to Atlanta. Chill with Rahlo, kicked in with our guy. Um, you know, good interview. Um don't forget to check us out. Anything else you want to say before we get about it? Stay free. Sure, stay free, stay safe, stay focused, man. And um you know, wish y'all the best. It's Tells from the Gels.