BRIAN STEEL TEAMS UP WITH LIL DURK : TALES FROM THE JAILS LIVE!!

The host breakdown powerhouse lawyer Brian Steel joins Lil Durk legal team. 

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SPEAKER_03 4:06

I had to turn it down. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 4:08

So what's going on out there? What's up? What's up? What's up? Ace EM215, you know, what's up?

SPEAKER_03 4:14

Um beautiful Tuesday. We couldn't be here yesterday, like what my brother said. But what happened this weekend? What happened this last week and it just passed, man? Ain't nobody everybody still here with us, right? Ain't nobody uh slip up and go to jail, did they? We trying to promote the state out of jail at an alarming rate.

SPEAKER_04 4:32

Somebody went, somebody might somebody did, probably did go to that jail.

SPEAKER_03 4:35

Yeah, I ain't I ain't knocking. I'm well, I'm knocking that, but I won't put it nothing past that. Yeah. I know I didn't. How about you? Nah, I ain't gonna yeah, I ain't go to jail, not this weekend. I can't count for next weekend, but this one just passed. Yeah, I'm here with y'all.

SPEAKER_04 4:50

Yeah, Lil Yup, it's nice out there, man. It's gonna, but it's gonna get back to being cold next week, I believe. So get prepared. Well, look, yeah, man. So, you know, once again, these nice days, man. This this is not a time. Well, you come across these days like this, these nice days, summer coming up, you know, March, April, May, just warming up, June. Get to these these times of the year, it's just like, you know, you you in jail where you're getting arrested. It's just like, man, like it's bad, man. It's bad.

SPEAKER_03 5:21

And certain parts of the season make you feel it more. And summer is one of the seasons that make you feel incarceration more. And what I mean by that, I'm elaborate, um, you'll be a little bit more depressed, a little bit more down. Like, like I told you, football is a pastime in jail. That's a great pastime, but football only comes around once a year, which is in the wintertime. The fall going into the winter. And, you know, that's something to look forward to and do. When football season is over, you gotta wait, what, eight months, nine months before football season comes back around? So now it's summertime. You're going through the baseball. Don't nobody, you know, you got dudes in there watching baseball, whatever, but it, you know, basketball, when the championship in the summertime for basketball.

SPEAKER_04 6:02

What's that?

SPEAKER_03 6:03

Or or basketball starts, the NBA. That starts in the summertime?

SPEAKER_04 6:06

No, it starts in October, like October, November.

SPEAKER_03 6:08

But it ends in the summer.

SPEAKER_04 6:09

Ends around like May, yeah, like uh, like April, May, sometimes.

SPEAKER_03 6:15

Okay, so then you you're on your own from there until football season starts. And what you got to deal with when you're on your own is that heat. Like when they have recreation dudes going outside, because you're going, you're going outside all day, every day when they open up that rec yard in the summertime out there. Whether it be just to go out there and kick the bobo, or whether it be to go work out or run the track, or just inhale real deep on them. But you're going outside. Inhale real deep on them. How that's not a doing how is how in hell real deeply?

SPEAKER_04 6:43

That was not on duty.

SPEAKER_03 6:44

Here go bull again with his not on duty's off of inhale. I say in hell real deeply.

SPEAKER_04 6:49

Yeah, that was hell.

SPEAKER_03 6:50

Not on duty. But as I was saying though, man, you know, the summer, man, the summer, and when it gets warm, basically when it gets warm, you become in white while incarcerated, you'll be a lot more depressed, man. You're thinking about times that you had when you was out there, you're thinking about current, what everybody else is doing out there while you ain't there. You just know, you know, people playing trips a majority of the time in the summertime, uh, cookouts, everything that goes on in the summer that can't go on in the winter, you're thinking about in there at a warming rate, and it puts you in like a, you know, unless you have 10, 15 years in, but still then with that type of time in, you know, you'd still summertime come around as just one of them joints, like you'll be moping, like, damn man, I can't wait to go home or you know what I'm saying. I wish I wasn't in here. You know, because it when it when it's nice outside, everybody out. You see how it was when we was coming in here today, everybody out. People hollering up and down the street, bus drivers hitting the horn for no reason at all. It's it's it's not, and it ain't even summertime. It's just that the weather had took a nice little turn for us, you know what I'm saying? And the temperatures is raised a little bit. So everybody is out mingling. You know, they got something to do, or you know, just out there, period. But in jail, the summer is very, very depressing, man, because the things that you will be doing with your freedom, you ain't allowed to do that no more because you don't have your freedom no more.

SPEAKER_04 8:07

Yeah, water ice stands open right now.

SPEAKER_03 8:09

You know what I'm saying? All types of stuff. Water ice stands jumping right now, not from just the water ice. Y'all know what I'm talking about. So don't act crazy driving past them readers and all whatever. Then that's in Philadelphia. You know what I'm saying? You yeah, them joints is popping. When the heat is out, the meat is out. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 8:25

What?

SPEAKER_03 8:26

When the heat is out, the meat is out. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 8:29

Yo, listen, is that not on duty?

SPEAKER_03 8:31

Oh my goodness gracious. Here we go. That's a not on duty. All right, here we go. Y'all know what I'm saying. The audience know exactly what I'm saying, especially to the fellas. When the heat is out, the meat is out. Yeah. Think about that for a minute. Let it sit in.

SPEAKER_04 8:52

They take a little bit more clothes off.

SPEAKER_02 8:54

Reflecting back to what I just said. Yeah, pants. When the heat is out, the meat is out.

SPEAKER_04 8:59

Yeah. So describe too another thing. Like, you know how um I don't know if it's the same in the feds or like or the state pen. Like when when uh people coming down for a visit in the county, right? Now you can see the the women walking past going down that that that ramp or like to come to the visiting room. Is it the same thing in the room?

SPEAKER_03 9:16

Well, but in the can't no in the county, you you don't see nobody coming down the ramp, like unless you're looking out your window.

SPEAKER_04 9:21

So I'm talking about your window.

SPEAKER_03 9:22

Oh, your window in your cell. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. In the feds, you gotta have probably a uh your unit probably gotta be near, you know, one of the gates. Or if you're in the penitentiary, you ain't seeing nothing. You just seeing all walls. So FCIs is a medium. So uh a lot of the FD FCIs has gates around it. And the USPs, which stands for United States Penitentiaries, has a wall around it. So you won't see nothing, no visit coming or going or nothing until they call your name. But in them FCIs and lows and camps, you can be in a unit that faces a certain direction of the compound, which is the jail that you're in, and you might be in a unit that faces the parking lot, like the administration parking lot, that's where family members would drive and park at upon coming into the jail. So yeah, you'll see, you'll get some nice little shots. You know what I mean? You looking all out the window looking for your visit, but in turn, while you're waiting on your visit, you seeing a bunch of other visits. So yeah, you definitely seeing some uh eye candy. You know, everybody going out there dressed up. The people that's coming to see you, they dressed up. Yeah, I mean, so you know it's a show getting put on. That's why they call the visiting room the dance floor. That's the nickname for the visiting room. If you know anybody that's been previously incarcerated or incarcerated right now, they refer to the visiting room as the dance floor. That's the nickname for visiting room.

SPEAKER_04 10:43

So let's get to this. Um, Lil Durk. Lil Durk is now switching a lawyer. Attorneys. Well, I'm sorry, switching his attorney. Uh, he's gonna hire uh the guy Brian Steele.

SPEAKER_03 10:55

Mm-hmm. That uh he had somebody else's case.

SPEAKER_04 10:57

Yeah, I think he had, I think Brian Steele was on Diddy's case as well. Diddy case, I think he helped. I don't know if he helped with uh the um I think he was on Young Thug.

SPEAKER_03 11:04

He got Young Thug on. Yeah, he definitely had them, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 11:07

So now he's bringing him on. Is this a common thing when you see people switch their lawyers?

SPEAKER_03 11:11

Yes, yes, go with the best look, the best shot. Because the best, you really ain't got no shot in the feds, but if you think you got a shot, you might if you got the funds and the capital to, you know, to distribute and pay for, you know, lawyer fees and stuff like that, attorney of fees, uh, you want to go with the best one, the best representation. Like you said, he represented Diddy, he represented Young Thug. I ain't know he represented Diddy. I knew he represented Thug, but got him on bail before the you know the trial even started and all that type of stuff. So evidently he's putting in that work. So, you know, uh Dirk wants to get ahead of the curve as far as in having the best representation possible.

SPEAKER_04 11:50

Yeah. So just a statement uh release it said, um Brian still is looking to join Lil Dirk's legal team, uh, still filing legal documents on Friday, March the 6th. Uh viewed by Billboard looking to replace attorney Jonathan Raymond, who has been representing Dirk in the Chicago Raptor's murder case for hire. So when you bring somebody like him, him on, um, I know Dot was saying something earlier. Like, yeah, he uh this guy is real good at interrogating uh cooperative witnesses. Right. He's real good at cross-examining these guys and making them look like they're lying.

SPEAKER_03 12:22

If they're if they're lying, he's gonna bring it out. He's gonna make them look like the liar that they is. Yeah. In a lot of cases. See, with these attorneys and these defense attorneys and these uh DAs and stuff like that, their their best tool of fighting is wordplay. Whoever can talk the best in there wins the case. That's between the DA and your lawyer. Whoever paints the best picture verbally is gonna win the case, regardless if you did it or not. You've seen I've seen a lot of men go to jail and didn't do it and went to jail because they didn't have the proper mouthpiece. That's what we like to call them in the feds or in the state. I need a mouthpiece, I need a mouthpiece, mouthpiece is aka well for attorney. You know what I'm saying? So whoever tells or whoever tells or paints the best picture verbally, nine times out of ten wins the case. Especially when you're going to trial with a jury trial.

SPEAKER_04 13:18

He still still also um made a statement, or what is the statement saying? He says, um, I get very close to my clients. I meet their families. Um he says, uh, because if I'm if I'm not going to uh defend somebody, I gotta be invested. Well, if I'm going to um defend someone, I have to be invested. I gotta believe in the person, I gotta make it where if I lose the case, it's going to ruin my life. So basically he's saying, like, yo, like I'm all in and I with that approach. Yes. And he continued on and said, I just want to help people. He said, um, and I don't want to hurt anybody, and God willing, something good will come out of this case.

SPEAKER_03 13:54

But I believe him fullheartedly. We just had a prominent lawyer out of Philadelphia by the name of David B. Meshach. And if I'm correct, I recall him saying the same thing. I meet the the my clients' families.

SPEAKER_07 14:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 14:06

I talked to them for hours. He said, You become like my family. And this is a prominent lawyer from out of Philadelphia that sat up here on this couch and told us the same exact things or am I tripping to eat. So, you know, that shows a little bit of man, this man really cares about what's going on with this whole situation. Not only is he just dealing with me on a just because that's all he got to give you. A lawyer just show up. Once they paid, they just show up, talk about the case, that's it. And all he's trying to contact the family, know about you as a person outside of the case that he's fighting for you. Yeah, he's getting intricate, more intricate with the case. So that's gonna make him fight even harder. So whereas though if you was his brother or son or something like that is that is in custody.

SPEAKER_04 14:51

Also, it says, as for Dirk, uh, the OTF only, the family rapper, has been in jail since October 2024 when he was arrested, as federal agents believe he was attempting to take a private flight to Italy. Despite Dirk's objections, his his trial has uh once again been delayed from April to August. But Judge Michael Fishero denied the request.

SPEAKER_03 15:16

Oh, so he's sending them all to trial together.

SPEAKER_04 15:18

Yes, it also says uh the prosecutors allege that Dirk organized a plot to have rival rapper Quando Rondo killed during a 2022 shooting in Los Angeles. However, Rondo's cousin Lil Pat was killed amid the crossfire. So basically, this is what Lil Durk is on trial for. Now Lil Durk is making power moves. I would assume bringing on Smile like Steele, who's represented YSL, Diddy, and he has He's a known prominent defense lawyer. Yeah, so he has some type of uh notoriety, meaning that he could he has the ability to possibly shake the case up. Now, does the uh the DA get a little intimidated when they see somebody like him walking?

SPEAKER_03 15:57

Yeah, but yeah, just think about it. If you in there with somebody that you know talk better than you, the DAs know who better than them. That's like if we run track, you faster than me, and they tell them about the day you and Torfique racing each other. I'm like, damn.

unknown 16:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 16:11

You know what I'm saying? You you he they know who who good and who bad. Like when when they get they for I got this case, they first thing now is I want to see who we gonna get for an attorney before they even start strategizing the case. Because now by them knowing who his attorney is, they know if they gotta go hard or if they can just be last go daisy and win this joint. Like this is a weenie over here. You know what I'm saying? Now you got a boy like still over there, they like, oh, that make them reshake how they want to present things and everything. Because you can't pull the rule over everybody's eyes. So they know that from the gun bus. As soon as you get appointed attorney or paid attorney, they write on it. Who's this attorney? Who is his attorney? They want to know what they up against.

SPEAKER_04 16:52

Yeah. And now when you have when the DA got to uh look across the like the room and see this person, because I was thinking about something too. You know, the D the DA has to present all their evidence to the D uh defense, right?

SPEAKER_03 17:06

Yes, yes, in a timely fashion, too.

SPEAKER_04 17:08

So basically, still and the other guys are going to try to formulate a plan to kind of uh derail the evidence that they that is that has been presented, or rebuttal it.

SPEAKER_03 17:17

Basically, that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_04 17:18

Yeah, rebuttal it would derail all as yeah, chop it up, make it where it look irrelevant, and um in Lil Durk's favor to possibly get him home.

SPEAKER_03 17:26

That's the ultimate goal. So this is the ultimate plan going in.

SPEAKER_04 17:30

And then um Lil Dirk is just you know trying to surround himself with the best, give himself the best.

SPEAKER_03 17:36

Opportunity that he got, he's the best opportunity he got. You do the same thing if I had that type of faluse at my uh at my at my disposal, which falus is cash, yeah. I'm fighting for my life. Yeah, I'm fighting for my life. Would you do it? You better believe it. Yeah, I'm gonna give me two of them, two lawyers. I need two to three. If I got I'm spending everything on that. If I got a million dollars and lawyers cost $300,000 apiece, and it's three of them, give me all three of them. I'm gonna keep the little dollar in the cut in case I come home.

SPEAKER_04 18:05

I remember I went to um back when um when we was young boys, I went to court and um I had David Meeshak and uh uh Perry at the same time. At the same time. So look, so I'm in there, right? And Dave, you David, remember this? So the the uh the judge uh said, like, who do you think you are? Because I had two lawyers. She said, Who do you think you are? Exactly what she said to me.

SPEAKER_03 18:31

That's what she said. Who you think you are? Who you think you are? The judge said that. Yes. Yeah, because the judge probably was intimidated. The judge gets this, like the judge is a referee. Like, if you go ahead up with the judge, the judge is just there basically for refereeing, refereeing the defense attorney and representing uh refereeing the DA. Make sure ain't nobody over talking nobody, make sure that the right language is used, making sure that there ain't certain things that that's why they got the objection and overrule. The judge is a referee. But when they see these things, like then they like, they speak like right there. That really was like unproper for the judge to say. Like who you think you are? Like that that that that that was very, very unproper. She said it in like a little sly way, but anyway, if you see it, you out you out of pocket. Yeah, you know what I mean. That's basically acknowledging. Like, who you let your thought. She probably meant to think it instead of talking. Because that's very that's probably grams for appeal if you lost that joint, too. Oh, yeah, yeah. You go back in there and see what a judge cited, uh, who you think you are, referring to your attorneys. Oh, yeah, that's grams for appeal if you lost that joint, bro. Yeah, that's grams all day long. The judge can't be saying that who you think you are. That's indicating like you got some money, you got some big shit going on. That's indicating that. Come on, you can't do that. Nah, you a judge, that's it. I could be I could have five or 19 of them up in here. That's it. You keep your thoughts to yourself.

SPEAKER_04 19:56

Is it a limit to how many uh lawyers you can have?

SPEAKER_03 19:58

Um, I'm I'm not sure, but I know you can have more than one, but I don't know if it's a limit, a cap to how many you can have. I'm probably sure it is because you know, dudes, you got dudes with a whole lot of money out here and they'll hide 10, 15 of them. You know what I'm saying? Can you imagine me in there fighting a homicide case with 15 top-notch lawyers? That'd be crazy. That'd be crazy. People getting paid for nothing.

SPEAKER_04 20:21

Niggas getting paid for that. He be like, yo, like you don't need that many lawyers, you just need maybe one or two good ones. So also, man, you know, um, well, shout out to Lil Dirk, man, you know, for his efforts, man, because people will love to be in that position to be able to do that. Everybody can't do that.

SPEAKER_03 20:36

No, no, a majority of people can't do that, bro. So you got majority of people that's out here breaking law and going to jail. Look, I went to court with a uh a PD and went to trial for my life with the feds. Went to trial for a PD with a PD. A man came back to me and said, Listen, man, I got you a deal for 17 years. You want that? Hell no, I don't want that. Went in there and slid down a razor blade into an alcohol river.

SPEAKER_04 21:01

Yeah, so other breaking news. Um, Sean Puffy Combs, we got 30 days left or something like that.

SPEAKER_03 21:08

No, I don't think that was true, though. That's a rumor? Yeah, I think that's a rumor. I think that's some old they talking about they recalculated his time. He got out uh April next month. What they sentenced Puff to? Like four or five years?

SPEAKER_04 21:21

Yeah, but he got a um he but he I think he had time service like that. So they were saying he'd probably come home around this year, end of this year.

SPEAKER_03 21:29

Well, I don't know. We're gonna see. We're gonna try to definitely give him up on his show if he does come home. Yeah. Hopefully he get out, man.

SPEAKER_04 21:34

So somebody like Puff, you know, uh, when he's coming, when he's getting out after 30 days, I mean 30 days out, it's gonna be pandemonium. Everybody's gonna be expecting him to come home, and it's gonna be crazy. You think he gets a bigger, a bigger reception coming home than Max B and them bullshit?

SPEAKER_03 21:50

Yeah, he can get a way bigger than that.

SPEAKER_04 21:52

Even though with the the the the case that he's on, people gonna still celebrate him coming home again.

SPEAKER_03 21:57

He's locked up for having too much fun.

unknown 22:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 22:00

Dudes ain't condemning him for that.

SPEAKER_07 22:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 22:02

Regardless if he was out here hitting boys or girls, that's what he chooses to do. I see Puff. Puff, what's up, baby? You trying to get on the show? You home. Puff ain't told on nobody. Puff ain't brought nobody to jail. To my knowledge, to your knowledge, he would like Puff Puff wouldn't.

SPEAKER_04 22:18

He did some foul stuff to Sean and them back in the day.

SPEAKER_03 22:21

Well, I don't know, but that's something that's a whole nother topic. I don't know what he did. Yeah, we talking about this case that he's in there for right now. You know, he's gonna get a huge walk em home. They're gonna walk him puff home with open arms. They're gonna have a party in like like in New York, like it was boy, a crazy jump. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 22:38

You think the uh the big time guys like uh Jay-Z and all dudes gonna be like willing to stay next to Puff when he got out?

SPEAKER_03 22:46

Because a lot they gonna have to. He ain't telling them. They was in them parties. How you know you man, they was it was a lot of people that didn't go to jail in them parties. Puff wasn't throwing no two, three-man party. Puff was throwing parties in vacant mansions. Them joints was nuts the butts, and if you don't know what that means, crowded. They was in there partying like rock stars. Puff ain't telling none of them. I'm talking about uh politicians and everybody up in Puff Jones. Yeah, they're gonna welcome Puff with open arms. Not just cause he's home. Thank you for not mentioning me.

SPEAKER_07 23:20

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 23:23

Wow. So Puff Puff getting out is gonna be like pirate big block party.

SPEAKER_03 23:29

Talking about man, you're gonna throw another drone, we gotta do that joint different. Yeah, somebody gonna ask him about them joints.

SPEAKER_04 23:34

So he still come home and do the same thing he did before?

SPEAKER_03 23:36

He probably don't do it at the rate he was doing it, but that's like a fetish. Like when you partying like that and you baby wooing people up with like a lubricant that can numb your buns up and you don't feel nothing going on or whatever to get. That's a fetish. That's a sickness that just don't die away. Hey, listen puff rate has some more fun.

SPEAKER_04 23:53

Uh Dirty Cash Entertainment said, you know, but you go to any, but you go to one of those parties and puff joints.

SPEAKER_03 23:59

Yeah, I go. I'm going. You just can't rub no baby on me. I'm trying to rub some baby on one of these females or something if I ain't had no female. But them joints is popping in there. You go in there, you know you definitely you ain't got to talk, none of that. Just point them out. Come on. Yeah, man. But you got boy and girl, come on. You gotta be careful because that baby on your instead of had like some type of uh Yeah, it would have a substance that can a numbing. A numbing, like you put them on your yeeks, them yeeks just be just there. You don't even know they there, don't we? No, I'm just saying on anybody's yeeks. You don't put no numbing on you on my yeeks. Yeah, but yeah, I need to know what's going on. Yeah, but yeah, but I'll definitely slide through one of Puff's jumps. I pass. I'm cool.

SPEAKER_04 24:41

You go up in there now on duty. But yeah, so but you know, you got you got like Puff coming home and and he's gonna he's gonna be back out like he didn't even miss a beat. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 24:51

Come back home to plenty of money, plenty of money, and and and and he's gonna get more money because of it's crazy, man, that we talk like a book, all that. When you go through a uh a turmoil, uh uh you go through a little bit of uh hardship, you get paid off of it, bro. You get keeping we talking about Puff Daddy, Sean Combs. Uh, from my knowledge, he ain't never been arrested before this time. You you he been arrested before? I ain't never heard about Puff getting it. Yeah, but he didn't go to jail.

SPEAKER_04 25:20

No, no, he didn't.

SPEAKER_03 25:21

Yeah, he just had a run-in with the law. A person of Puff Daddy's stature goes to jail for years, get convicted, and come home. Bro, he's gonna probably be bigger than he was before he went to jail, man. Yeah, Puff's gonna make probably a couple hundred million when he can't.

SPEAKER_04 25:37

Yeah, easy off of him being incarcerated. Because you know, Puff is a smart boy, so he's probably gonna know how to capitalize off of everything. He's gonna come out with a book, he's gonna do documentaries, he's gonna travel, he's gonna probably go on tour again. He's probably gonna do so much stuff. He's gonna be everywhere. You're gonna you're gonna you're not gonna miss him. You know what I'm saying? He's gonna be gonna be every magazine covering.

SPEAKER_03 25:57

Man, we're gonna try to get him up here.

SPEAKER_04 25:58

Yeah, yeah, for sure. Now, when when you're when you're in a jail, right, somebody like Puff is on the block, right? Nine times out of ten, he got the whole block on smash, make sure everybody compensated books is packed.

SPEAKER_03 26:12

Yeah, but more so for the New York car.

SPEAKER_04 26:14

That's what I'm saying. For whoever on on the on that car with him. Yeah, that whole car in New York. Yeah, he makes sure.

SPEAKER_03 26:20

Yeah, yeah, they they carry and they carry and they hold him down.

SPEAKER_04 26:22

So when he leaves, it's gonna be a drop-off.

SPEAKER_03 26:26

What you I don't understand what you're saying? Like, yeah, it's gonna be, yeah. The man with the money left. Now he probably looked back for some dudes that he got acquainted with and hit them dudes' hands or whatever. But yeah, when he leaves, it ain't gonna be like how it was when he was there, no. Mm-mm. You're gonna be dudes happy to see him go and dudes like, damn man, Puff kept this locker for.

SPEAKER_04 26:45

Yeah, that's that's uh same thing with Lil Dirk. Yeah, same, same exact thing. Hate to see Lil Dirk leave. Yeah, because I'm pretty sure he's taking care of what the Chicago car.

SPEAKER_03 26:53

Yeah, but he all well well, he he out there, he in the federal system joint in LA. So yeah, whoever from the Midwest, you know that's how they rock the whole Midwest. They don't just rock the Shah, you know, whatever coming through the Midwest. Sha, Detroit, uh St. Louis, you know, they call that the little the Detroit, they call that like the coalition. They call that the coralition, like how you got the DMV for DC, Baltimore, and Virginia. You got the coalition, St. Louis, Milwaukee, Chicago, uh, uh, uh, uh, um, all that, all that stuff in the Midwest. All that over there. So that's the little car that they run underneath.

SPEAKER_04 27:28

So um describe another thing. Like, what was going through your mind the day before trial? Like, what's probably going through their mind? They like little dirt, like, all right, the day before trial.

SPEAKER_03 27:36

The day before trial, you just be like, What's going through your mind the day before trial is like, all right, here the time has finally come now to see if I get exonerated or if I go to jail. And your whole thing is hoping that or wishing, because a lot of people wishing too, that they got the best representation possible and that it's going to be, you know, uh talked about accordingly to try to help them win the case that they're fighting. That's the whole thing. You you in there every day, like you listening. It's like you're not even in trial. It's like you watching somebody else's trial because you don't do no talking. Only one doing talking is your lawyer, the DA, and the judge and the witnesses, whoever getting up there. So you're basically like a spectator watching your own trial. It ain't like you can make objections. Oh, Rule, I got this to say. No, you got you, that's why I call it a mouthpiece. He does all the talking for you. So you're sitting while they're just talking about you the whole time, whether it be two days, one day, two weeks, you're just in there quiet. Only time you get to talk is that sentencing if you get filmed convicted guilty. You don't even get to talk if you get filmed not guilty.

SPEAKER_04 28:39

Well, Lil Dirk's um evidence against him seems like it's a bunch of um like cooperating the witnesses. Like it's a lot of people that's supposed to be telling on him.

SPEAKER_03 28:46

I mean, that's a lot of that's a lot of uh uh uh uh uh uh cases nowadays. Or even back then, you mean brother if they've if they didn't find nothing, they got people coming in there telling on you. They can't lock you up. There's no way they can lock you up if they ain't if they ain't got nobody telling on you and they ain't find nothing, you ain't going to jail. So you're either gonna have an abundance of you know uh narcotics or whatever it is that they locked you up for, or a bunch of witnesses, one or the other. They are only two things that can get you booked unless you told on yourself.

SPEAKER_04 29:16

Wow. So now flip side, you know, trial start, now the witnesses start to come out on the stand, right? People that you riding around in the car with, people that you got talked to on your phone, people that you've seen in whatever the case may be. How do you like just describe the feeling of the person looking at you like, yeah, that was him right there, he did that.

SPEAKER_03 29:38

You being shocked, but you knew about it. It ain't like it's a surprise, surprise. You knew it, but sometimes you'll hold out, like, yeah, maybe he's gonna take that back, maybe he ain't gonna do that. But when you see this person get up there and actually get to talking, and he get to you, him right there with his white shirt on, he pointing directly in your face, and you can't do nothing about it. Yeah, I mean you just sitting there, but you're in your mind, like, damn man. And then what comes to your mind also during that time of a person testifying that you know intricately, be like, damn, I seen little signs in this fool that I should stop messing with him when it comes to breaking the law. Because you go back and look at, you go back and reflect on your whole relationship, like, damn man, I should know he was going to tell, boy. Exactly. And you it's a bunch of kicking yourself in the butt. That's all it is.

SPEAKER_04 30:23

But but another thing too, like it hit different when it's like, like me and you did some things that we that we did, right? Right. And and when you know that that you have done some things with a particular person, and that particular person that you've done some things with, like that's like, like, like me, like, like you see and me come out. I'm uh you you sitting there, we got a surprise witness, and I come walking out.

SPEAKER_03 30:45

Yeah, that that that yeah, it hit different. It hit this that hurts. That's happening. That hurts at an alarming rate. That hurts. That hurts. I'm talking about that. Really, really hurts, bro. You see one of your main friends, like, damn, you really gonna get up there and do that. You gonna do this on me like that? And he up there, he it's like y'all, y'all, y'all, what was it, what's this called? When y'all speaking and y'all not speaking verbal, but y'all teleporting, telepathing, or whatever it is. I don't know what it is, is it's a word like that.

SPEAKER_07 31:11

Eye contact.

SPEAKER_03 31:12

No, but but you but we're talking though. I could I know what he's saying. He I'm looking at him like, damn, for real, without moving my mouth. He ain't there looking at me like, yeah, I had to be one of us. And and yeah, yeah, that that's what the looks be saying.

SPEAKER_04 31:25

And this is somebody that's shooting, you know, but do you feel like damn? I'm really I'm I'm done, I'm cooked now. Yeah, this boy really, I was in with him when I when we did this and did that, and I know if he's telling him what I think he about to go up here and tell, I'm going to jail. It's like now the evidence or the or the actual time frames is so intricate that he's giving um details that only you and him know about. So that's hard to uh digest.

SPEAKER_03 31:53

You're not gonna not even digest to beat. That's hard to beat in trial. He in there telling everything and leaving no rock unturned.

SPEAKER_04 32:03

Would you rather that or your woman leave you?

SPEAKER_03 32:05

My woman leave me. I'd rather my woman leave me. I ain't trying to sit in that jail, bro.

SPEAKER_04 32:11

Yeah, that jail probably hurt.

SPEAKER_03 32:13

And then when you got a close friend that sent you in there, especially if he was taking part in it. Now you got friends like I got close friends that you know, I'm not in the streets no more. But say if I was in the street, I got a close friend as far as you. You my brother, and you legit, you're a businessman, and I dragged you into some stuff with me, I would respect that better. Like, man, he wasn't even there. I dragged him into some, but if we out here breaking law together and you right there, like, yo, what you only bought nine, I'm gonna take another four and a half. I had some extras and we getting it, and then we get caught for some stuff, and you in that joint, like, man, I don't know why. I'm like, are you kidding me? You was out here doing more than me.

SPEAKER_04 32:51

But at the end of the day, that's why it's best to stay away from the streets because it's a dirty game. Because you never know, somebody can can be away from you, right? And catch a case, a gun case, a drug case. But if you're from like high stature, like you know, like you know, you you brought Hugh Jackson and tells us in the jail, right? Right. So you so you have uh uh a name, you know, law. So people know you like when you're walking around the street walking down the street, people know you are. If I was go to go catch a case, right? And unbeknownst to you, but I know some things about you that get me off my case easy, right? And you trying to fly street, doing what you gotta do, doing your you know, your business working, your business, your con your podcast, whatever you got going on. And I just say, you know what? I know something on him because you are a high profile name, the feds like, who, like what you got?

SPEAKER_03 33:41

And I'm like, yeah, you know, and you're telling about some shit that that that was never uncovered, it was buried back in the day.

SPEAKER_04 33:47

Yeah, what type of what type of man is that to do that?

SPEAKER_03 33:49

That's a coward.

SPEAKER_04 33:50

What's worse than a coward?

SPEAKER_03 33:51

That's a coward, that's a despicable, as my man King Ernest says, a milzut, real zat to the fullest degree. Like, like he has no honor, no integrity, no nothing. Like, why what why you coming for me? Yeah, you coming for me, and especially if I been left the game. It anyway is wrong. But if I been left and you see what I'm on, like you said, you explaining about me having a podcast and opening up businesses and trying to make something up myself legitly, and you revisit some stuff that I've done 15, 20 years ago. Yeah, yeah, man.

SPEAKER_04 34:22

Just because I'm out here still breaking law. Yeah. I'm like, let me uh yeah, that's horrible, bro.

SPEAKER_03 34:28

You the most wickedest person in the world, bro. You're selfish.

SPEAKER_04 34:31

I can't think of nobody but you.

SPEAKER_03 34:33

Yeah, and some crimes that I did back back back back yonder.

SPEAKER_04 34:37

Like, I don't condone snitching, but y'all could have told him somebody else just said a little dirt. Like, come on, bro. Like, you know what I mean? Not not that we agree with snitching, but it's like, why you want to take down the the the the uh the cash cow or somebody that's like helping everybody?

SPEAKER_03 34:52

It ain't the it ain't selfish, bro. They self-preservation dude is trying to go. Yeah, he ain't worried about he gonna go he thinking, man, I can go take care of myself. Let me get out of here.

SPEAKER_04 35:02

I give me a job in a whole other state, another country. I mean, I'll move to another country if I needed to.

SPEAKER_03 35:07

Well, if you told.

SPEAKER_04 35:08

No, not me. I'm saying this is how they're thinking.

SPEAKER_03 35:10

Oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 35:11

I can go somewhere at work and live somewhere else.

SPEAKER_03 35:14

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, as long as you let me out of here.

SPEAKER_04 35:17

Yeah, that's it. Everybody not built for jail.

SPEAKER_03 35:19

And then the ones you got a lot of rats that clean up their act. They really come out here and walk a straight line and pack up and move because they already know your hood card is revoked now. So you can't come back home. You have you have some dudes that do it and try to play the role like they didn't tell and all that, and they still shaking and baking and all that. But for the ones that's outright, they get out of here. They get out there and go live. I know plenty of rats that's home and they're living somewhere on the outskirts of Philly or maybe all the way out of Philly, and they're living good too. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 35:48

Yeah. So, I mean, it's unfortunate that people gotta go through these type of things, man. You know, so basically my thing is just stay stay out of jail, man. Stay, don't commit crimes. Because it's like, well, murder is no um statute of limitation.

SPEAKER_03 36:01

No, it's no statutory limitation on murder. They could come get you at any give, you think you've done that joint. Even if you beat it, right? If they throw it out, nine pros, nine pros mean we're gonna throw this out because we ain't got the right amount of evidence and we had you sitting in jail for a little too long. But whenever we get some evidence on this again, whether it be 10 years, 20 years, 30 years, 40, 50, 60, 70, 80, 90, 100, we can come back and revisit and open this case up.

SPEAKER_04 36:30

Yeah, like you see, like I know we were talking about earlier. We talking about, you know, um the YBC indictment and all the young boys that got died on there and what they got indicted for, and then there was a name thrown out there. Like, yeah, like you know, you say um Mayor Pablo told, people saying this thing. Mayor Pablo told, um, but we have yet to see any documentation on that, right?

SPEAKER_03 36:47

Yeah, we ain't seen no documentation on it.

SPEAKER_04 36:49

Yeah, and we from we from the neighborhood, so we haven't seen anything.

SPEAKER_03 36:51

No, ain't nothing probably gets sent home yet. If he did do that, ain't nothing probably gets sent because sometimes that takes a while to get to the streets. You know what I mean? Dudes gotta get a dude paperwork, a dude or know a dude telling on him, but he got to get the paperwork where he can have it in proof to show somebody. But that might not arise five, six months down the line.

SPEAKER_04 37:08

Yeah, and it's like it's like also he was in there and now they in there, so it's like now people like trying to put two or two together. Like, how do they how do they indict them? How do they how do they uh lock the young boys down? But you know, it probably was a you know a thorough investigation. I'm not saying there's no witnesses, but we cannot say nobody told until what?

SPEAKER_03 37:28

Until the paperwork come out. Yeah. When you got that black and white, you can say, yeah, that that this mills up, this is this unhonorable coward.

SPEAKER_04 37:36

MVP uh MVP Sports Rankings said his paperwork is on the news right now. Who? Uh Mir Pablo.

SPEAKER_03 37:44

Oh, well, yeah, well, yeah. If it's on the news right now and you read it, yeah, he did some things. Yeah, yeah. Try to send that through too, where I can see that. Because I ain't see that. I'll be good. You know, I'm one of them good looking ass niggas. I I like to look at stuff like that. Even though I'm not up here to bash rats, that's what y'all choose to do, cool. You know, I'm not up here saying, like, yo, go against rats, kill rats. No, I'm not saying none of that. If that's what you choose to do, I choose to stand on this side of the fence. While you stand on that, I still believe in integrity and honor. If you're out there and you're selling drugs and you're busting guns and you're robbing and you with your crime partner do it, and y'all get caught for these acts that you're doing, man, you should keep your goddamn mouth shut, and that's just it. That's it. That's what you chose to do. You got caught. This is the flip side to it. Shut up.

SPEAKER_04 38:29

But that's not always people's people's motive all the time. People people are trying to get out of jail because once those extreme conditions take place and they start sending you over what New Jersey, where you was at?

SPEAKER_03 38:39

Yeah, they do uh uh to them counties that got the feds got contracts with them jail. New Jersey, uh Hudson County, Warsaw, Virginia, Candom County. Yeah, they got them counties loaded for you niggas. They got them, they got them beds in there for you.

SPEAKER_04 38:54

Wow. So now the separation comes in. Like a lot of cases, like I'm pretty sure like people talking about you want to be separated from Lil Dirk's case. They want to be separately moved from to fight their case alone. Is that because they think he's guilty?

SPEAKER_03 39:07

No, it's not even because they think he's guilty, it's because the things that they're gonna say about him, if they're taking a jury trial, nine times out of ten, they will be taking a jury trial because they're in the federal government. It's a spillover. If I'm if me, you, and another person in trial, and we in there together, and they're saying that they're telling the jury all three of these men is codifidids, but they bring up a specific killing that you did. They're gonna be talking about, yeah, Taufiq did this killing on such and such date, such and such, but we're still sitting there next to you. The jury looking like, well, them and his friends, yeah, they're finding us guilty off of stuff that we ain't even do. That's why they're trying to get away from it. So then when you get a separate trial and you go for your trial, your charges just bought up by themselves, and that's it.

SPEAKER_04 39:49

You get that though? I get it. Yeah, I get it. Because if if you if we all sitting by side by side and you look guilty, that's gonna make me look guilty ultimately. So it just looked crazy.

SPEAKER_03 40:00

But now you got situations like um Philip Felix just said Pab Lawyer said that he was scared for his safety after he was after he got done snitching on Yak.

SPEAKER_04 40:14

Yak Yola, right?

SPEAKER_02 40:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 40:16

So, but my thing is the crazy thing about a lot of these young boys who's telling in these cases like this, like we I don't want to talk too much about YBC, but they they haven't um fully grasped, I believe, the situation at hand. I don't think they really understand. They probably understand, like, yeah, we can we can get a lot of time to get life in prison. But I don't think they really understand actually, you know, the situation at hand. This is a real serious case.

SPEAKER_03 40:40

Well, if they don't understand it now, they'll know within the next six months that yeah. Well, we could get we we possibly got the chance of never ever ever coming home again. A lot of these guys ain't 24 yet. A lot of these guys ain't laid down and got a thorough, some thorough head, not to be the derogatory or nothing, none, none of these. A lot of these guys ain't ate a nice, decent, you know, out at a restaurant mill. You understand what I'm saying? And these are the things that they might not never get the chance to do either. You know what I'm saying? And it's sad, man. It's sad, it's a wake-up call, man, to everybody out there that's watching and listening. Like again, we bring you all these, you know, topics and stories from the jails at an alarming rate to if you is on BS. Like I said, I don't knock it. Stand on your business, do what you got to do. I'm just telling you, if you choose to do that and they catch you and you don't die, boy, they filling that jail up and they'll use you as one.

SPEAKER_04 41:39

Yeah, yeah. Stay free. Stay free, man, because at the end of the day, freedom is priceless. Freedom is priceless, man. Now, uh, one more question I gotta get to, right? Will any of those guys ever come across Mayor Pablo while he's in there?

SPEAKER_03 41:56

Well, yeah, yeah, probably so, but if they got separations, no. The jail won't even let y'all get together. They won't come across him at court. You might the only time you got a chance to see him is at court because y'all in the same, y'all not in the same cells, but y'all be in the same floor. So, like, say if Mayor Pablo got to testify on you, they'll walk him past your cell to take him up to the courtroom first. And you'll see him, you by you got a quick chance to say something, man. You never asked him, whatever the case may be. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? But other than you getting on a block with him, a unit with him, or getting to a jail with him, absolutely not.

SPEAKER_04 42:31

So it's like, I'ma see you. What am I saying to you while you walk a past? Like, yo, bro, don't do that, bro. Don't do this.

SPEAKER_03 42:37

Well, yeah, try something. Uh uh uh open, uh closed mouth ain't gonna get you nowhere. Even though you may still be talking and play, pleading your case through the door and all that, but still, it might make him think, like, yeah, he's right, that is my best friend.

SPEAKER_04 42:52

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. So yeah, yeah. I'll about get to these phone calls in a minute. But the thing about it is this, man, for me, man, I just don't I don't understand how um, you know, uh the the jury has the right, they got my gotta change that. The jury has the right to say you guilty based off of something that he did.

SPEAKER_03 43:09

Not only that, like you never know, they're not gonna say that. They're not gonna say that. This is we're regular people. That's like they tell them to go home. The jury ain't allowed to disclose none of the information that's going on about that case to nobody. They go home and tell their significant others and kids and stuff, like, boy, I'm over here uh presiding over this trial for this homeless. That boy did that. I can't wait till we get near the come on, man. This is we regular people, you know what I'm saying? You ain't got robots in there where they gonna live, they gotta listen to the command that you gave them. No, these human beings.

SPEAKER_04 43:40

Yeah, and people got you know, families, they're going through stuff, but yeah, all that. Yeah, they gotta reside over your case. Yeah, and they got they just lost their wife, huh? Man, to somebody that killed them. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 43:52

And then they in here, like, yeah, it's one of these niggas that, yeah, I mean, he yeah, he fit the description and book you.

SPEAKER_04 44:00

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SPEAKER_03 48:13

The person that's coming here supposed to tell about something you did, hey! They're witness, they put a witness up there that made them look like a goddamn fool.

SPEAKER_04 48:23

So, what if the the the uh DA gave me a deal? Like I got I got a deal on the table for you. Don't play with me because you go up there and do this crazy stuff, I'm gonna really snatch the deal off the table and give you a bunch of time. So, what did you ask me? What would you ask me? So that might make a person not want to do it.

SPEAKER_03 48:39

Oh, well, yeah. If he get listen, if whether he do it or not, if he do it, he you're going to jail. He telling me we're trying to send you to jail. But if he's doing what Woody did on a, you know, I mean, going up there playing game. First he went to the door and tried to cooperate, then got on the stand and started saying all this other that that looks good for you. That looks good for you. People went here lying on me. You see, they came in here lying, he lied at first, and now he wanted to get it right by playing crazy. Yeah, you could use that. That's for you. That you can use that to your advantage.

SPEAKER_04 49:05

Yeah. Yeah. So it's it's but at the end of the day, that person, nine something out of ten, nobody's not gonna do that. Nobody's not gonna go up there and do that. Like go up there and just play with them, people, especially when they have a serious like murder case.

SPEAKER_03 49:17

Yeah, and they got something that they ready to go do 30, 40 years about. Nah, they once they get up there, they commit, they committed themselves.

SPEAKER_04 49:23

Because the Diegers are gonna be is gonna be super, super aggressive. They're gonna be like, oh, you try to play us, huh? Exactly. I mean, you you going to trial. You know? So, you know, it's just it's just a slippery slope when you go into trial and you got all these people on there. Even the the more, you know, um high, however, high of a profile case it is, the stakes always seem higher. Why is it why is it that way? Like, stakes seem higher when it's like more of a high profile case. Like, if it's like regular murder, like say me and you, or somebody somebody like us get on go on trial before murder. The magnitude of the trial is different for somebody like the same case, same witnesses, but the case is a lot different for some person of higher stature, like a little dude.

SPEAKER_03 50:06

No, I don't think so. I disagree. No, it's the same thing. We both facing life. It's just that he got more, he's known by more people, so a lot of eyes is going to be magnified on this case. Yeah. Because he's known. Other than that, it's the same states at hang here. I get life, he gets life. I get the death penalty, he can get the death penalty. It's just more people watching him get it than watching me get it. That's the only difference.

SPEAKER_04 50:31

So somebody like um, like like like a little dirt, right? When he when he goes to trial and goes to fight, you know, what when everybody's gearing up. Does the uh federal government put their best lawyers up against their best lawyers up the state?

SPEAKER_03 50:44

Yeah, but but yes, they do. They put their best DAs up against him.

SPEAKER_04 50:47

But it's probably because of the stature of his case of who he is.

SPEAKER_03 50:50

Yeah, because they know he's gonna hire a big time lawyer. So they gotta put a big time DA up there. So they gotta put it out. They ain't gonna send just no poo butt in there to go fight this case, and he got Johnny Cochrane and all that in there representing him. No, they strategize too. Okay, they try to send you to jail. Okay, he got something we're gonna put the best one here for this.

SPEAKER_04 51:08

So basically, it is it's levels to that courts, it's levels, yeah. Yeah, like you play chess at certain levels of the game. Yeah, exactly. It's definitely levels. And this right here probably will be the ultimate, the highest level of chess right here. Yes, yes. Because of the players that's actually in the game.

SPEAKER_03 51:21

Well, I'm just saying, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_04 51:24

Now, you got um so much, then it's just it's just crazy, man. Like, so they really want you that bad.

SPEAKER_02 51:31

Yes.

SPEAKER_04 51:32

But how come how come when you when you when somebody like us coming there with somebody like like like me shack or they don't have the the top DA in the city going against him, they have him going against regular DAs.

SPEAKER_03 51:43

Yeah, because it ain't nobody of status. It ain't nobody of status of good like getting money and all that. You a regular dude. And they got some top DAs down there, but they for them big cases.

SPEAKER_04 51:58

You know what I'm saying? So uh ready to take calls? Yeah. 215-316-4492. That's 215-316-4492. Now y'all call in, we want to speak to y'all know we've been off all weekend, but call in 215-316-4492. That's 215-316-4492. You know, but these cases, man, you know, it's like they don't never do that like with people that like I'm just saying, a regular person who catches a case who has you know a high uh profile um representation, they don't really give them a hard way to go.

SPEAKER_03 52:34

Well yeah. But they do, but they do. It's not no picks. It's not no picks. If you get locked up and go in that courtroom, that's it.

SPEAKER_10 52:41

I wanted to uh comment on something that tells from the jails who'm speaking with uh y'all speaking with Mayor, mother mayor from Jersey, man.

SPEAKER_04 52:52

What's up, Mayor? How you doing? Shout out to Jersey, what's up, bro?

SPEAKER_10 52:55

Man, shout out to y'all, man. Y'all holding it down, y'all doing your thing, man. I appreciate that, man. I just heard we're sorry.

SPEAKER_04 53:02

I said we appreciate that.

SPEAKER_10 53:04

I just wanted to call in and tell y'all keep it in your finger. Did y'all um did y'all hear about the 11-year-old boy shooting a 31-year-old man defending his mom?

SPEAKER_03 53:12

I was just now ready to uh elaborate on that before you call your call came in. Yes, I did hear that.

SPEAKER_04 53:17

Yeah, we're gonna talk about that. Yeah, that's crazy. I was at the same time.

SPEAKER_03 53:20

Yeah, but they but they still locked him up and charge him as an adult.

SPEAKER_10 53:25

They do say they are, yeah. Oh man, yeah, I didn't hear nothing about it. That was really one of our closest friends, to be honest.

SPEAKER_03 53:31

Oh, that was you that just texted uh the uh uh uh uh the uh uh YouTube on the check. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was just ready to elaborate on that just now. Yeah, that's crazy, man. Um, they're still gonna charge this kid. This kid, because that's he broke the law. He can't kill nobody. It's just a sad situation, man. It's just sad, man. Like, where did he get this gun from? Was it his mother's legal gun? It's just a whole bunch of things. He got a homicide on his hands, man.

SPEAKER_10 53:58

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I definitely want to hear what y'all gotta say about that, but I ain't gonna be too long, man. I love your boys, y'all deal. Keep doing your thing, man.

SPEAKER_03 54:05

All right, man. Thank you for the support, man. Appreciate you. Shout out to Jersey. Yeah, that's just a bad situation all the way around the board because you can't kill, regardless of somebody stomping your mom right there.

SPEAKER_04 54:14

You can, but you're going to jail. But you can beat, you probably know you're not gonna beat the case.

SPEAKER_03 54:18

He's going to do some time talking. Oh, I'm not saying he's going to get years old. He's seven? No, he's 11.

SPEAKER_04 54:24

I'm sorry, 11. He's 11 years old. How much time are you gonna get?

SPEAKER_03 54:26

Yeah, they can give him a dub, they can give him 15, they can give him a dime. A dime is a horrible fool, 11-year-old boy. Come on, man. He's gonna do some time off of that. Oh, I've regardless of uh even if it's a year, he's doing some time off of that.

SPEAKER_04 54:42

Tell us from the jails.

SPEAKER_12 54:43

Tell us from the jails. Hey, what's going on, man? It's Kev, man, out of Jersey.

SPEAKER_04 54:48

Shout out to you, man. Shout out to Jersey. What's up, bro?

SPEAKER_12 54:50

Um, I'm calling to ask Black a question. So, Black, right? Yeah. I'm in my 30s, man. I'm a grown man. You mean my dad, for most of my childhood, he was in and out of the can. You know what I mean? You come home, I'm gonna pick you up, he'll come back, that type of shit. Now he's at a different place in his life. He started his own business, as a low-key, I'm proud of him. But I think to myself, well, all of the life lessons I had to learn as far as, you know, basic man shit that uh if I would have had a male, another male guiding me, I could have probably avoided. Am I wrong for not forgiving him, even though he's at another place in his life? Like, because you did real time. And you like, let's say you had a son. Like, do you feel like, well, damn, man, you know what I'm saying? I'm at a different place. I evolved. Do you feel like your son would have just like get to give you a chance? Or you feel like that, you know what I mean? That time passed, fuck it, man. Go on.

SPEAKER_03 55:42

And to answer your question, man, we all different human beings, man. You are not wrong for holding a gripe against that man, but for you to hold the gripe, right? And then to carry it out and treat him in like an evil manner, like you went to jail and you went around when I was growing up, and I had to figure things out from other men, not you. You're not wrong for that. You're not. That's something that he gonna have to live with for the rest of his life. That's why he made the change when he did. You just have to think a little bit harder, like, well, damn, my dad still ain't the fool that he was leaving me. He did make a change, you know. But you you are entitled to your own feelings, man. You know what I mean? This man left, this man left five, ten, fifteen years, whatever it may be. He has left you for acts that he felt though it was cool to send him to jail. And you're entitled to say, man, damn, man, he out of pocket for that. But to hold that over his head for the rest of his life, nah, I don't think that's cool. But you're entitled to your feelings.

SPEAKER_12 56:38

I would say I it's not even like I'm calling them, like, oh, bitch, I think you in there, I ain't nobody doing. I just you're I don't really deal with him. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03 56:44

Yeah, yeah, you and you entitled, you entitled to that feeling, bro. You entitled, you and that, you're not wrong for that, man. He wouldn't do time, bro. I sit here and be a fool to tell you you out of pocket for holding that. No, that man wouldn't do time. It might have scarred you in ways that you ain't even explaining about right here on the air. But at the end of the day, man, you entitled to your own opinion, you your own human being. But my advice I give you is get that man some slack. You see the direction he's going in now. And like you said, you low-key proud of him. Yeah, I mean, we're getting older, man. One thing about men, man, we we we we we men, but we not women, man. We are things happen in life. Okay, whoop the doo. Let's move on, especially if you're doing the right thing now. He is. Hey, hey.

SPEAKER_12 57:27

Oh shit. All right, man. I'm a I'm a fan, man. Let's know y'all got supported. Brothers watching y'all, keep going, man. Word.

SPEAKER_03 57:33

Yeah, man. Thank you, man. You stay safe out there, stay free.

SPEAKER_12 57:36

All right, brother. You too.

SPEAKER_04 57:39

215-316-4492. That's 215-316-4492.

SPEAKER_03 57:45

But yeah, back to this 11-year-old incident, man. That 11-year-old man, he he he did right. Someone's whooping his mother.

SPEAKER_04 57:59

Hey, how you doing? I'm sorry, man. Jamal, you calling from, bro?

SPEAKER_08 58:04

I'm checking in all the way from Mobile, Alabama.

SPEAKER_04 58:06

Um, shout out to Mobile Alabama. What's up, man?

SPEAKER_08 58:09

Hey man, I just wanna hop on the podcast, grab me following you guys for a quick minute. You know what I'm saying? Like y'all's content. I know y'all really focus on the youth, right? So I'm 22 and my dad did 11 and a half years instead. He got 36 years when he was 19 years old. So he never come home from the Obama clinic. Thank God. But the biggest thing is, I want to say, like, when you say y'all always try to say how we're gonna navigate and how we're gonna direct the youth. In my opinion, I might be a lot of fighting for fancy because I don't have kids. I think the biggest thing is to start with the parents and the household. Because even though my dad, my dad was behind the wall for a long time, he never stopped being a father. He always kept in and asked me like what I'm thinking, how I'm feeling. He always run from my thinking, I always run through things I'm around, things I was exposed to. Even if he wasn't there physically, he was always there mentally, emotionally, spiritually. He always guided me through every aspect that he possibly could have missed my law. He always guided me every step of the time. He feels like you know what I'm saying, right now today is my best friend calling for my advice, everything I need to, every time I come across things in life, I don't understand. He's my first resource. Like in May, I'm gonna graduate with a uh bachelor's in science degree in merchants. So I'll be a regular nurse in May after God willing after I pass my intellect. But you know, he always just feels, you know, man, I can do anything I put my mind to. And he always raised me on how more the biggest thing we always lived about is the foundational man who is kind of doing the responsibility. He always held me to that standard. So I I always I had to just call in, just give me a talk and give my opinion on how I think the best way to kind of navigate to you.

SPEAKER_04 59:52

All right, listen, man, young man, you say you gotta you gotta figure it out, man. Keep doing what you're doing, man. Stay motivated, you know, uh stay focused, man. And then and most importantly, man, just go out to go after your dreams, man. That's whatever you want to do, bro. The opportunity is right in front of you, man. You say you got your head on on your shoulder, shoulders in the right manner, man. Just keep pushing. You can do whatever, man. Yeah, man. I appreciate that. Yeah, man. Thank you for calling in. Shout out to Mallard.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:18

Yeah, man, but back to this 11-year-old boy, man.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:22

I would have emptied the whole clip out, too. Tell us from the jails who he's speaking with. This is uh Anita, man.

SPEAKER_11 1:00:30

I'm gonna go about peace and journey on uh on uh the way or whatever. I just want to tell you, brother, thank you for all you do. Salam Alek, man.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:37

Keep up the good work. Were you calling from again? Oh North Carolina. North Carolina, man. Shout out to North Carolina, man. Appreciate you, man. Thanks, man. Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:47

Like, what's the name? Oh the mine.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:49

Oh, the mine? Oh, yeah. Shout out to the mine, man. Yeah, y'all call him 215-316-4492. But if I'm 11, if I'm 11 years old and I see a man putting his hands on my mom, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:01

I didn't say he he did the the wrong thing at the right time.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:04

I would have done the same thing, man.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:06

He did the wrong thing at the right time. Man, I'm coming. I'm 115. This is all I like. This is my mom. Mom, mom, duke's a lot of us come from broken homes and ain't got a father, so a lot of us can identify, and I'm not saying that's the case with him, but I wouldn't be surprised to find out that he has just his mother taking care of him.

unknown 1:01:27

Man, I'm coming.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:28

Tell us Majels who he's speaking with. It's P. It's P we calling from P.

SPEAKER_09 1:01:34

Yeah, from St. Louis.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:35

Shout out to St. Louis, what's up, bro? What's going on?

SPEAKER_09 1:01:38

I had a question, man. So I had got a colour incident at the library and uh ended up talking to this white dude, ended up smacking him, long story short. Trying to see how do I go about that situation. Uh yeah, it went in my city where I'm from. I'm I'm in a whole other city, but I'm trying to uh get on a whole other path and uh turn around everything. So what what would you feel you should do with did he did he tell on you? So I'm in the library getting my book. He was on some drunk shit or whatever he above. He came up to me saying some racist shit. I tried to walk away, he came up to me, that's when I end up slapping. Uh uh, I end up leaving out the building, so I don't know. I couldn't tell you.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:30

Oh man, just don't even go back to that. I'm not, you know, I'm I I've I I I I would advise you to, you know, try to keep your hands, keep your cool, keep your hands to yourself, moving on in the future. I don't, you know, condone, you know, running around beating people up and stuff like that. But I know situations out of society do get tense, and at the time you might not be thinking straight. But you're you're you're you you you if it was just a slap, that's a you know, a little fight and all that. Like I said, again, I don't condone that, but you know, think about that because it could lead to a mistake. You could have gone to jail over that. You could possibly have got killed. This man had a knife or put a knife in you or something. Move forward with knowing when you see this type of stuff going on around you, man. Just go ahead and leave the premises. Unless a person keeps following you and touching you, that's when you put your paws to his face. But other than that, you done how long ago did this happen?

SPEAKER_09 1:03:20

It's about uh two days ago.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:22

Two days, and you ain't heard uh uh an inkling about it yet?

SPEAKER_09 1:03:26

Nah, I had checked my name and shit on case net and all that shit, but I ain't seen shit.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:30

Oh, yeah, you goody, man. Just stop slapping on people, man. Just learn. No, no, no, when it's a time to slap and a time to not slap, man. You goody.

SPEAKER_09 1:03:38

Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:39

All right, man. Appreciate the call, man. You be safe out there, man.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:43

Yes, sir. Yeah, man. You know, but back to 11 year old, man. Like you said, he did a he did the wrong thing at the right time, right?

SPEAKER_03 1:03:50

Yeah, he did the wrong thing at the right time, and I'm standing on that. You ain't beating my mom. Beating stop my mama, mom on the ground. Hey, I boy, you ever seen Jason's lyric? Yeah, I'll be the brother that went to jail.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:04

Yeah, me too. And a lot of people probably would do the same thing. Yeah, a lot of people in this chat and on watching this video probably did the same thing. Yeah. Women as well. Nobody let nobody beat their mom up. Because you part, you like you're powerless. You can't do that for nobody other than shoot a grown man. You're 11 years old.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:20

Yeah. But the the messed up part is they're gonna still, they they're not gonna look at it like we're looking at it. It's the law.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:27

But if he got a good lawyer, lawyer can't be able to do it.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:29

I don't care what type of lawyer he got, Top. You sitting up here making all, but but if he got a good lawyer, boy, you you like one of them court appointed that coming in and you get booked off.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:37

This guy. We uh ready to go. Who's speaking with today? Tell us from the jails.

SPEAKER_11 1:04:44

Oh man, peace and blessed.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:48

What's going on, man?

SPEAKER_11 1:04:49

Yeah, I just want to say thank y'all, man. Um, I I've been an advent listen uh since I first got in. I always you might see my um my name too groovy. I'm always in front with y'all. I love y'all jewels, man, and I appreciate y'all hard body.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:02

Appreciate you though, man. Huh? I said you say you love our jewels.

SPEAKER_11 1:05:06

Yeah, so you always give him jewels, man. Y'all gotta invite you on, and we appreciate y'all.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:11

Yeah, man. Thank you, man. Where are you calling from, man?

SPEAKER_11 1:05:14

I ain't a study. We reside in Houston, but I'm from New York City.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:17

Oh, we just we just was in Houston the other day, man. It's real nice out there.

SPEAKER_11 1:05:21

I would have met y'all. Yeah, we just out there.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:31

We appreciate you, man. Shout out to Houston, man. Keep keep supporting us, man. Thank you, man.

SPEAKER_11 1:05:35

Always love.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:38

Yeah, man. So, you know, it's just a matter of uh, you know Tells from the Gels.

SPEAKER_10 1:05:47

Shout out to Black. I was uh in Atlanta with him. Uh he came through with the meme, uh I did I came through the YouTube. I just came home, it's good to see him doing his thing, man. He was in a he came through Atlanta, man.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:00

Oh yeah. Oh yeah, he was down there with Rowler.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:03

Yeah, he was he he he he was uh he was all meme uh working like that don't oh no no no coming through the gyms oh the gym okay all right yeah he was stepping in he was stepping in tall boy he wasn't playing no games with them ball shout out to black this case move man you remember me man yeah man thank you man I appreciate that man shout out to you man stay out there man it's it's lovely out here on this side of the fence man staying up where where you from Elena yeah at a warm and rate I'm out here ah at a lower rate shout out man thanks for the call in man stay tapped in man you will enjoy while they come slam yeah yo D Mobile mechanic come on man come on D Mobile mechanic y'all you know man like that was that was a that was a little borderline he said I I love the jewels that was like a little a black yo you know he always mad he just said he comes through everywhere we in the airport we wherever we at he just he just mad he always mad yeah but uh ain't nothing you can do about him being mad 215 316 4492 317 215 316 4492 forget to call him but you know we can we we'll be here all night talking about that 11 year old kid man you know because at the end of the day I mean do you wish he would have just gave him like a leg shot hit him up I mean I killed him he's not he don't he not no doctor he ain't probably never fired a gun to that day he don't know where to all he knows mommy in danger bow bah bow that's it yeah that's all he knows he ain't thinking oh you're he been this league he 11 yeah I saw something one time with a with a bull uh uh it was like a skit or something it was like a video online where the mom and the boy somebody told the woman say something else again he when it's it hit the boy mind the young boy just oh no that wasn't no skit they was inside like a little greasy spoon spot yeah yeah but young boy that that's another joint that happened he was a little older though yeah the young boy did he was in his teens yeah he smoked him and he and dude punched like come on man she was a little bit belligerent but come on man it's an older lady man he all he had to be under the influence and everything what I be like you see this is an old lady right here she's she wanna all right lady go ahead get your food and that would have saved his life but he said something say something to get him a punch in your mouth regardless of what he said you keep saying that you just said that brocket though yeah he out of pocket he out of pocket he out of pocket for doing that he out of pocket for even saying that yeah he out of pocket that's why he did that's why he I would have probably hit him hit him before he even I probably shot him before no I wouldn't have shot him because I wanted to see if he was gonna do it yeah because you know a lot of dudes be punch faking and you'd have killed him and went to jail for nothing. Yeah and he didn't even do it you up here ain't gonna be tails in the jails but feek in the jails listen you would have sat there if somebody tell you that tell your mom to punch you in the yeah I'd have got up and got a little hostile and all that but everybody is not everybody is not that you got actually hit it I'm not waiting for you to hit my mom. Yeah but you got some dudes that's alright that's you yeah that's you that's what you're not doing. Yeah I'm just saying I'm but I'm okay with what you're saying but I know that there is a world everybody is not like everybody exactly I'm not a fool and I'm guarantee right now you're talking like a fool over here everybody is not going to take your train of thought and do what you did. I guarantee you see he didn't the boy that killed him he waited to be socked it's a lot of people like if I'm sitting there I'm a young man it's a lot of people that's gonna sit there and wait. So it's a lot of people that's gonna see her get socked and don't do nothing.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:32

I agree. You have different all different types of men I'm not knocking your opinion I'm just saying I'm giving you minds.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:37

Yes and your opinion was cool but you you you you you're saying it like man I don't see how dudes uh sit there and let that even you know after he said that no now you're putting a personal opinion in it like no everybody is not the same bro I get it's different you said you said wait you said I no no a lot of dudes would wait I'm just saying I'm just saying that would go ahead and be like yeah as soon as he said and me and you was one of them as soon as he said he didn't he probably wouldn't even had the guy killed because I'd have sucker punched him and then it would just been me and him from there.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:05

I wouldn't even probably had to kill him but you a little kid though all right but he no not that dude in the store not that dude next door he was a teenager no I'm saying okay well I don't know I don't know how an 11 year old he little kid he don't know yeah all he knows mommy is in danger and then it was when he probably stumbled upon the altercation she probably was getting belt the ass already yeah I mean this boy right here watched it develop he watched the whole it was an argument for about two to three minutes before he even started punching on her he could have been jumped in that like oh that's my mom cuz he ain't say nothing until after he struck his mother you got some people that's gonna wait you got some people that ain't even gonna do nothing at all throughout the whole incident you got different quality of men different quality of women that's it everybody is not the same anybody that sit back and let a man put his hands on his mom you a coward or will say that then say that then yeah or even get smart and loud with I'm not letting none of that slide you're not doing none of that in front of me I don't care who you is yeah say that then you're not we're not letting it get because now when it when it escalates you feel now boys start getting at that type of that bravado yeah I'm about to knock you out like what tells from the jails who's speaking with today I'm sorry who this T I was just uh calling appreciate y'all we caught all the right man we appreciate that we call him from Pallin from St. Louis St. Louis shout out to St. Louis man appreciate you brought you too as well yeah so at the end of the day man I mean we we have people that just go from the from the from the gun bus or people that wait till something happens and some people that don't do nothing at all and the person that doesn't do anything at all yeah you coward I would agree so yeah man uh take a few more calls before we get up out of here 215 316 4492 that's 215 316 4492 you know so for me at the end of the day man you know I would if I was a judge look at the case of that young boy who did that I would give him the most what the the lowest sentence that I can possibly give him that's you the next judge in there might not be thinking like that the next judge might be in there he killed someone that is the law he might take all human aspect out and do his job is he wrong for doing his job not really he wrong he he killed somebody but what I'm saying to you is still you might because depending on how it goes because now we're talking about the victim because look I mean we're talking about the defendant what about the victim all right yeah he did some nuts would have this your son and this boy come around give him two weeks in jail he killed your son yeah I'll probably like if my son was out of pocket like that I probably would understand I don't care how much I'm out of pocket my son I'm but I ain't gonna understand it now the death is like it's the death is yeah yeah so it's just tricky all the way around the board that's why you gotta think about it in the whole time I was saying I would understand if my son was moving like that and putting hands on somebody's mom and he got killed they come in and say yeah your son he's just been murdered tonight I'd probably be like yo my son's out of pocket now I probably would have will want some want some vengeance well yeah you know probably about it you is gonna want some business nigga kill my I don't care what he killed him over in your mind though you're like yo he my son yeah he out of pocket yeah he out of pocket so you know I'm saying I'm not gonna sit back and be like yeah he did he did he deserved that but I would it's just crazy because you it's two sides of that coin so some people might feel like man like he deserved that it might be even some family members of yeah my son was out of pocket he deserved to get killed I'm saying some people might feel like that's just I wouldn't say nothing like that but it just depends on uh where you at with that uh 215 316 4492 that's 215 316 4492 but another thing i want to ask so even with the with the situation with this um with this young boy now where did he get the gun from that that means it goes it goes it goes uh the uh the plot thickens yeah that's why i say it's uh that's what i say you gotta think about the whole thing in his entirety because people like that who who gun is this he gotta go to jail too yeah exactly if it's mom gun she it's just bad all the way around the board how it's gonna go a body then drop now let's uncover all the myths of what happened in here in this situation today yeah yeah so it was like it's crazy it's crazy man crazy situation man so um I just would suggest everybody just be patient man and not put yourself in the situation where you can end up in jail or or or just even you know put your hands on a woman you know man that's that's everybody go through stuff but to be beating her up beating a woman up come on her son standing right you had to look over and see her son standing right there he probably did he probably was drunk you can tell he was out of a yapping he probably ain't all he knows her and him having altercation yeah because if he looked over there and seen that boy he would he probably had a little pause like oh this nigga look like he ready because he was ready ready as he ever was gonna be yeah yeah y'all better get up out of here but listen we take a few more calls before we go man it's 215 316 4492 come on it's like 200 plus in here man come on y'all take take a few calls before we guys get late about to be time to break the fast you know 215 316 4492 that's 215 316 4492 button you know um so we're about to get up out of here I want to thank everybody for tuning in man uh tell us from jail is sponsored by TNS Media Group uh Potro don't forget to check us out on all platforms Instagram TikTok uh you know of course YouTube we on YouTube live and we stream on 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