PC OR POPULATION : TALES FROM THE JAILS LIVE !!!!

Should inmates choose PC or Population the host break it down. The rules and results of choosing PC over population. The dangers of population revealed.

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SPEAKER_05 7:27

Not just help you reflect, because reflect on what? I want the stories to scare you, to make you tremble in your boots. You mean this is one of the reasons why I tell the story. I don't want you to reflect on a goddamn thing. You could do that on your own time. I want you to be shaken. Like, yeah, I ain't going that way. I'm gonna go ahead and that long way. Yeah, all that other stuff. Yeah, that's for the birds.

SPEAKER_04 7:51

But it's like, you know, people are it's a narrative out there that hey, they're glorifying it. No, this is that people that's on the show have been to jail. It's not about, you know, us glorifying it. It's just that some of the people that we have are, I would say, celebrities or people that went to jail. And you may look at the lifestyle of the celebrity or a person that went to jail and think that we just trying to coincide the two and make it like it's a popular thing to do, but it's not. Because everybody in jail is trying to do what? Come home.

SPEAKER_05 8:18

Everybody. Ain't nobody. Well no.

SPEAKER_04 8:20

Some people trying to come home. Majority of the people. Majority, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 8:23

But I'm if I'm gonna give it to you, I gotta give it to you straight feet. This might not be something that you know because you ain't having spent too much time in jail. But you got dudes in there that's cool. That's really, really like, all right, this is my abode for the rest of it. Like them dudes, like like you, like them little clips I be sending you and all that, when them dudes go up for parole at the BN 45, 50 years, and then by judge be like, Yeah, you granted parole, you can leave. They looking at them like, what I'm leaving to.

SPEAKER_04 8:52

Yeah, but that's different though. No, that ain't different. It's I'm saying why it's different. Why I think it's different. All right. Because they're there for 45, 50 years. Their life is over. After the 50 years, I mean, you gotta be at least 70.

SPEAKER_05 9:04

Bro, if I do 40, I just did 21. Yeah, and I was biting at the bit to get out in front of that judge. You still was young. I was in my 40s. That ain't young, like 20 and 30 or 18.

SPEAKER_04 9:16

The first time you came home from the 20 years, you weren't 40 yet. Yes, I was.

SPEAKER_05 9:19

I was well, I was that's I was. It was 2021, right before the pandemic.

SPEAKER_04 9:24

Okay, still 40 is way better than 80. I'm I'm 80 years old. My mom died, my dad, my dad died. I'm trying to get out of here. Me. So they gotta come home to a happy house for six. I don't even if it's five years. I'm just telling you why I believe that they probably want to stay in there because I've been in here for 50 years. I'm accustomed to jail. I don't, I gotta go out here and go get a job. I gotta go out here and do, I gotta go out here and try to find a place to live. I gotta go out here and do all these different things. Why am I why y'all freeing me after this time? I don't my life is is basically wasted. My life is in prison. I probably ain't get a visit in 20 years. I probably ain't get commissary in 30 years or longer. You know what I'm saying? So, what's the point of me, you know, coming home? So now, outside of that, anybody 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, they trying to come home. 70, maybe. But once you've been there 80, 80, 90 years old, what nobody trying to like, man, what I'm going home to?

SPEAKER_05 10:23

Yeah, I understand that sentiment. I understand that, and I understand what this is what these guys is in here thinking. But me, I could be 97 and they can tell me I got two days left. Let me out that door.

SPEAKER_04 10:36

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 10:36

I am coolie oh.

SPEAKER_04 10:38

That's respectable, but I'm just saying, I understand why those dudes is or yeah, but I understand too, because they ain't got nothing to come out here to.

SPEAKER_05 10:45

I ain't got that head. Me. I mean, I could come home to the bottom of that basement shack, a garage under a tree, under the bridge down here on Kenserton. Let me out that door.

SPEAKER_04 10:58

Yeah, yes. You go from getting three highs in the couch. I don't care about none of that. This man 80 plus years old. Man, I'm not trying to come out here and try to find a job. Plus, plus, my my my uh my record gonna be you've been in jail. Yeah, I get that. I get that. I get that. You're gonna find employment, you don't got nobody, no support system out here. Yep. I'm probably like, yeah, man, I'm trying to let me out for I'm I'm gonna stay here.

SPEAKER_05 11:19

So that's what you're gonna do. If you did 40, you about 75 and they talking about 75? Yeah, that you're paid, you got parole. No, I'm just saying I understand. No, no, no. I see what you doing. All that we get back to that. I'm coming home, but I see. Okay, all right, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 11:32

I understand why they why they would.

SPEAKER_05 11:34

I understand it too, but I don't agree with it.

SPEAKER_04 11:37

All right, but that's not that wasn't the question. We were trying to see why they do it, and I understand why they do it. Now, do I agree with it or not? I don't I don't agree with it. I want to be home because I'm home now.

SPEAKER_05 11:47

Yeah, I don't understand why they do it either. I don't understand. I gotta I gotta go back and retrack my state. I don't understand why they do that.

SPEAKER_04 11:54

I just I mean that's listen.

SPEAKER_05 11:55

Because me, I'm I'm I I hate this place so much. I'm trying to go, bro. Okay. Whenever y'all ready to let me go, he's gonna went right here to go. I don't care if there's nothing left out there for me. I'm going to live the rest of these days, little days I got left. I'm doing that outside, man.

SPEAKER_04 12:09

You might have been in there 40, 40 years with somebody, like it's it's four or five of your brothers, y'all in there to chill. Y'all all did 40 years ago. So now I got a I got a brotherhood with it with these guys in here. I gotta go out here and nothing. So I'm not gonna see these bulls I seen every day. I played cards with them, I played chess with them every day. You might with you every day. You're right. And now I gotta leave and go out here and be by myself.

SPEAKER_05 12:30

But yeah, but if it's 80 plus years old, that's what I said. I I understand it, I get it. You said you didn't understand. No, I don't understand it, and I do understand it, if that makes any sense. But me, I'm not doing that.

SPEAKER_04 12:44

Okay, you are okay.

SPEAKER_05 12:44

They cracked that gate, they could they could I could have done 65. It ain't nobody alive. Get me out of here. Y'all saying I can go, I'm gonna go ahead and give all this little stuff that I got to all my chess players and cards players. I got to go.

SPEAKER_04 12:58

Yeah, I understand that. What you doing? I'm probably gonna come home.

SPEAKER_05 13:02

Yeah, I'm probably gonna want to. If me and you both was sitting there be like life with Martin with my man, Martin and Eddie. Yeah, we go into the upper room together, bro. We getting up out of there. I'm getting up out of there. We ain't playing no games, man. Nobody sitting in there, man, doing that, man. But I understand their mentality.

SPEAKER_04 13:20

Why like you said, some people used to be told me it makes sense. You said some people say no. And I was explaining to you why I understand. You're right, you're right. You it makes sense. It makes sense. But majority of people, that's why I say jail, we're not glorifying it because the majority of people that's in jail. I'm talking about the majority wants to come home.

SPEAKER_05 13:36

I'm talking about if you got 1,500 people at a jail. I mean, all 1,500 might want to come home. That one jail. We probably gotta go to the next jail to find that one that wanna stay.

SPEAKER_04 13:45

Yeah, nobody trying to stay there.

SPEAKER_05 13:47

Yeah, ain't nobody trying to stay in there, bro. Don't nobody get. I don't know though, because I've been in there with so see, because this is a crazy conversation right here because I done been locked up with so many dudes, man. And I know so many dudes that I'm like, damn, what you in here for, bro? I wouldn't rob the store, but they could bring me in. You sat there and waited for the police to come while he's in there. Hey, yeah, oh yeah, you're right here, come on. To come to jail.

SPEAKER_04 14:11

Yeah, that's a crazy person.

SPEAKER_05 14:12

Like, I'm like you're you're out your mind at this point, to me. To me, and I'm not saying that you are, but to me, you're out your mind.

SPEAKER_04 14:21

Yeah, I mean, yeah. I mean, I don't understand why they would do that, but I mean, I'm saying I don't see why they would do that.

SPEAKER_05 14:28

Because they're talking about rent-free.

SPEAKER_04 14:29

But I can understand.

SPEAKER_05 14:30

Like you said, three hots in a cot. Some people make hot water, they ain't never gotta pay for nothing.

SPEAKER_04 14:34

Yeah, somebody some people mental, they mentally disturb. Yeah, they got mental issues. So therefore, a person has mental issues, nine times out of ten, they can't function in society. So jail is a place where they can get they, like you said, they meds, they're getting the best medical, the best dental, everything in jail. The food might not be that good, but I got a bed, I got a room, um, I got companionship. You know what I mean? I got I I got dudes. I can check.

SPEAKER_05 14:59

Yeah, but that's the wrong type of companionship. I need some yeeks. I need some yeeks.

SPEAKER_04 15:04

I ain't in there trying to get none of them yeeks. You just said that some of the homosexuals in prison, they don't want to leave that their other significant other.

SPEAKER_05 15:10

Yes, because they are in homosexual relationships, so they cool. They ain't planning on going home and being with a female, they plan on getting out and can you let my boy out with me? That's just it. Yeah, but so I understand they mindset and the the the concept of what they thinking in. This is my boy. You got dudes, he getting transferred to another jail. He'll wake up like, yo, you know, they transferring your boy out where he running down the child hall punching police because he going with him. Y'all gotta transfer me, transfer me out with my boy. Like, dang, this nigga chasing him from jail to jail. He don't want him to get that tail to nobody else. I get it though. Like, that's what y'all on. Cool. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 15:47

Well, that's it. That's just the reality of things, man. Like, you know, jail is a whole different world.

SPEAKER_05 15:53

Man, it is a world outside of a world, man, and people that haven't been there, even people that have been there for little, you know, skid bids or whatever, don't know how intricate it can get. Yeah, but I was just on the phone today before I got off work. One of the guys called me from jail, one of my codifenders, and I'm not gonna put his name out there, but he was on there, and he's and this is the first time I ever talked to him ever in my life.

SPEAKER_04 16:16

What?

SPEAKER_05 16:16

Talk to him. Okay, yeah, and this is a code defendant of mine, and he ain't do no telling and all that. He didn't receive the death penalty before, turned that over, got life. You know, he in a bad situation. So, you know, he calling the girl, uh, he called on a three-way. So I answer the phone. I'm like, yo, hello. And the girl, like, yeah, uh, I got uh Jug on the phone. You want to talk? I'm like, You said you said his name. Well, yeah, but yeah, I'm just talking there. So I'm like, damn, you want to talk? I'm like, yeah, go ahead, put him on the line. So we talking, yo, what's up, bro? You know what I mean? Such and such. He gets to talking about everybody else, man. They ain't sending no money and this and that and this and that. I'm like, well, damn, I ain't never even talked to you in my life. What made you, you know what I mean, call me? This is what I'm thinking in my head. But we are co-defenders. We both men that went in there and did the right thing when I say the right thing, meaning ain't telling nobody took our uh took our actions, our responsibility is as men and went and did our prison terms. But at the end of the day, I say that to say to go back to what we were talking about. Dudes want to get out of there by any means necessary.

SPEAKER_04 17:14

Yeah, but you crazy though, like you tell some of the jails. Everybody's gonna try to get call you, get in contact with you.

SPEAKER_05 17:19

But if you never talk to me, bro, yeah. If you I'm never calling you, bro. You don't know that. And I don't what you mean I don't know that? You sitting over here tripping against me, you ready to turn me up already. I'm straight from work and you ready to go crazy. Back against the wall. I'm I'm not gonna call you.

SPEAKER_04 17:32

I don't know you. All right, you definitely but you are you are you gonna knock them for trying? You tell from the jails.

SPEAKER_05 17:38

You're not man, bro. Listen, man, man, man. Tells from the hells, man. Come on, man. I'm I'm not I I just look, I was born at night, not last night. Yeah, but yeah, I know. It'd be like that. The whole jail system is gonna call me and ask me for some money. Get ready for it. Well, yeah, get ready for number changes. You know, number change, you know, uh block this call from coming in.

SPEAKER_04 17:58

But what I'm saying is, you gotta understand is people are desperate in jail. That's why I would say stay from jail, we're not glorifying. People are desperate, man.

SPEAKER_05 18:07

Extremely, I was one of them. Yeah, they're desperate to get out. How many times I called you, man? Like, listen, bro, like please send. I know you say, and I I done got on somebody else's phone, man. You said you're gonna send that little deuce, man. Please don't forget it, bro. I just talked to you a minute and a half ago. I know you ain't forget it. But the that's the desperation. That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_04 18:25

So now you understand why he called you.

SPEAKER_05 18:27

You are but we never talk. No, I don't understand that, man. You're not trying to force that damn my mind to make me agree with you. No, I'm not calling no random off-tick dude and putting my gripe on him.

SPEAKER_04 18:42

That's that's just that's your opinion of how you how you feel, but me and a thousand other people. How much time he got? Uh a will? Yes. All right, so I got a will in here. You just said, nobody's sending me money. Yo, you tell some of the jails, everybody probably talking about what you got going on. So now they are like, yo, I got his number. I got call him real fast, hoping that you might say, yo, matter of fact, yeah, I got something for you, man. I'm gonna send you something. It's all lines have to be exhausted. You know that.

SPEAKER_05 19:09

Yeah, all lines will be exhausted. That has to be.

SPEAKER_04 19:12

So why you saying somebody?

SPEAKER_05 19:14

I'm just saying, me, I'm not gonna do that though. I'm gonna exhaust all lines, but I'm not calling nobody that I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 19:20

You never you never know. No, I no, ask me. You got people to call me.

SPEAKER_05 19:22

All you gotta do is ask me and I'll tell you.

SPEAKER_04 19:24

You got people to call.

SPEAKER_05 19:25

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_04 19:26

So imagine if you didn't have nobody to call, he probably how do first of all, how you get my number? All right. You know I got your number. How? Probably from I don't know the person that called you. It was some girl, his niece. Or maybe it was a code D, something that gave me a number. Like, I got I got a black number.

SPEAKER_05 19:44

Um yeah, well, well, you know, I talked to him, man. We kicked it for a minute, man, and you know, I gave him okay to call back, man, and you know, we were probably gonna do something with him on a on a live tip when he can set up your man because his case is intricate and very big. And, you know, he got some things to say, man, about reform and what he went through and how's his thinking today uh versus 25 years ago.

SPEAKER_04 20:06

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SPEAKER_05 20:14

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SPEAKER_04 20:16

So, but I'm saying though, so you I don't I don't knock him. I get phone calls from people that I don't even know all the time to call me, but yo, uh yeah, yo, um such and such and such, man. I'm cool with your cuz, or I'm cool with your man. Um, I was wondering if you can send me some money, man. I'm doing bad.

SPEAKER_05 20:31

You ever sent it?

SPEAKER_04 20:32

Yeah, I did. To a nigga you don't know? Yeah, alhamdulillah.

SPEAKER_05 20:36

May Allah reward you and grant you taufi out of whom I mean.

SPEAKER_04 20:38

Because at the end of the day, he signed he on his last straw.

SPEAKER_05 20:40

He said, Oh no, he's definitely on his last straw. If you calling a person you do not know, asking for money.

SPEAKER_04 20:46

And it didn't happen one time, it happened multiple times, and then they say, Whatever you can send, bro. I'm talking about from that one person? Oh, different people, whatever you can send.

SPEAKER_08 20:54

Well, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 20:55

People that you done been locked up with, you done came home, or was that coming home, and people called me from that you was in jail with that called me that that still had my number. Like, yo, can you um yeah, I was locking up. I'm such a black man.

SPEAKER_05 21:07

Yeah, but they ain't asking you for money. They probably like reach out to black if you can and tell black to send me a couple dollars.

SPEAKER_04 21:12

Telling you that they asked me for money.

SPEAKER_05 21:14

People that I walk the yard with that you do not know. Yes. Well, this is the first time you telling me this. I forgot about telling you. Well, yeah, that's a hell of a forget. I forgot. Did you send it? Yeah, yeah, that's a hell of a you're a good let me get let me get something right here, man. I go ahead, you know me, honor you in a different way, man. I give you your flowers now, man. Yeah, I mean, to the minute that I ain't know that y'all was reaching out to my brother asking for money. Yeah, stop it, man. You got your little fews and twos and the gone get.

SPEAKER_04 21:38

Yeah, listen, man. I didn't, you know, we didn't do stuff, you know. I didn't, I didn't been on the um, all done been on the block. And um, I didn't put money on the whole block. Did it a whole block books? I just spent, I spent, I don't know, money putting the money on everybody's books at one time. You'll put money on this old head book. Put me on, I put money on just to secure the whole block while they're in there. Right. They got a little Little, you know, little addicts or whatever. Who are they, whoever they may, maybe I don't know what it whatever they are, but I didn't did that.

SPEAKER_05 22:05

Right, right. And I watched you do that. You ain't got that, you telling the audience, you ain't telling me.

SPEAKER_04 22:09

I'm just saying. I did we didn't we we didn't we didn't experience that, but I understand if somebody called me and don't even know me, and you calling me and you like, yo, look, whatever you can send, bro. I ain't asking for like whatever you can send. That's like a that's a hat in my hand, please. Yeah, like yo, where your homies at you humble humza. Where your homies at? Ain't got none. That's why I'm calling you. No, that's this is what I'm thinking. Like, that okay. Because that could be me. The role can be reverse. I'm like, damn.

SPEAKER_05 22:31

No, but you'll have me call. You could you could go you can go call on me. You could call me. Yeah, the roles ain't gonna be broke. Call by Oh, you ain't gotta call my phone. You're gonna be straight. You might be in cabo. You might I'm going to be in carbo. Ain't no might. You ain't gonna have to call the phones. Just you mean you only time you calling my phones is you is a matter you want to talk about. It's never because you need.

SPEAKER_04 22:50

May Allah protect me from that, Aloha niggas.

SPEAKER_05 22:52

I mean, yeah. I'm just saying if I was super, I mean, please protect us both from the penitentiary or the penal system, as I like to call it.

SPEAKER_04 23:00

I mean, but I'm just saying, so you know, like these things are really happening that people are calling what he had in their hand. And once again, this is why we say we're not glorifying prison because once you get behind that wall, nine times out of ten, if you don't have a support group, out of sight, out of mind, it's over. Right. It's over. Yeah. You in there, you eating that food in there, you know, you spending your time in there, ain't nobody gonna look out for you. You know what I mean? It's just it's just a bad situation. A lot of these people like is as that's in jail right now, a lot of these young boys that's in jail, their moms are still alive and their moms still, but they gotta think about it. They moms, we're getting old every day.

SPEAKER_05 23:38

Yeah, so yeah, mom is stepping closer to that grave.

SPEAKER_04 23:41

Your mom might die one day, damn.

SPEAKER_05 23:42

Yeah.

unknown 23:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 23:44

Who else are gonna you her baby? You know what I'm saying? You her baby regardless. What you do, you can kill 30 people. You her baby, so she's gonna make sure I got 50, I got a hundred for you, baby. I'm gonna send it to you. But once mom is gone, boy.

SPEAKER_05 23:58

It's all down hill from there. You on your face.

SPEAKER_04 24:01

Because your friends, your friends might end up being in there with you. Some friends might not be able to do it.

SPEAKER_05 24:05

You see what I mean? Hershey. Man, ain't nobody doing nothing for me, man.

SPEAKER_04 24:09

Nothing.

SPEAKER_05 24:10

Nothing.

SPEAKER_04 24:11

Can't get$30.

SPEAKER_05 24:12

A dime? You're talking about$30? Let me get a dime. Can't get nothing.

SPEAKER_04 24:18

What? This is the reality of people out here who wanna who don't want to listen. Like you gave me flack for saying that I would want to talk to the young boys in the industry saying my hat is gonna be over here, whatever the case may be, but how do we get to them? How do we get to it? How how do we how do we reach them? How do we change the mind state or the mindset of the individuals out here who breaking law? You want to carry a gun, but you don't you don't want to go to school? You want you wanna you want you wanna rob it still, but you don't want to get a job?

SPEAKER_05 24:43

Again, my answer to that is I have no answer. My only answer is experience itself. Like, cause like we just talked about yesterday, like me not going up and telling the young boys to get in their business talking about put the guns down and all that. From my point of view, that that shit not working, bro. And plus I'm lightweight scared because I don't carry a gun no more. And I don't want them niggas to be like, oh, what you talking about? I'm like, damn, I'm just trying to help y'all. And them niggas is up and more meat. Nah, this that ain't gonna be none of that. Like, how does it change? They got to touch the pot. That's why it's that sane for a reason. You gotta touch the pot and see, damn, they ain't lied until when they said that joint was hot. Hopefully your hand don't get stuck to it. Hopefully you can pull that joint right back off. And that's a metaphor, meaning you get five, ten years and get back out instead of their life. You know what I'm saying? But other than that, man, that's that's how it is, man. I think that a person that's, you know, especially if you didn't talk to them two, three times, two, three. I'm quite sure a lot of these dudes is getting conversations from some sane men that can think. Or women.

SPEAKER_06 25:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 25:40

You know what I'm saying? And they still continue to go out there and conduct themselves in a manner that they was just, you know, talked to about. Experience itself is going to be the only thing that can change that man. And the reason why I say that, because I walked the same road that these a lot of these men have walked. I, you know, alhamdulillah, the law let me come home and, you know, and live out the rest of my year. Because I ain't going back to jail about no uh selling no coat, getting caught with no legal gun now. If it's something comes down to my family, I'm gladly going back.

SPEAKER_04 26:09

Yeah, I agree.

SPEAKER_05 26:10

You have to say I'm going back fast and nefarious. I'm flying back in there. But other than that, man, you know, and when I say my family, meaning, you know, you, you ain't no, I'm talking about my close family, my old lady. When I finally do get an old lady, uh the kids and my son, yeah, that type of family.

SPEAKER_04 26:24

Oh, you got an old lady no more?

SPEAKER_05 26:26

No, no. But listen, um, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 26:31

I mean, I know how that feels. But you know, it is what it is. Go ahead and thug it out, man. You know, we gotta thug it out. Let it burn, right? Time, let it burn, like my man said. Let it burn. So let's get to this other topic we got today, man. You know, or they saying um But hold on, hold on.

SPEAKER_05 26:47

Uh Khalif. Khalif just became a member.

SPEAKER_04 26:49

I guess so. Yeah, shout out to Khalif, man. I see that, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 26:52

That's what I wanted to yeah. We make sure that we we we uh give you your flowers right back. Thank you, man. Help support keepers out of court. Shout out to Old Az Rider.

SPEAKER_04 27:00

Yeah, yeah. So you got this thing where it's though, you got Lil' Boosie, Young Thug, and they talk about um, I guess it's better to be a PC. What they beeping about PC and is.

SPEAKER_05 27:11

No, no, no. Ain't nobody said it's better to what happened was Boosie made a statement and said, men that go to prison, the steppers, the niggas that saying they doing this and they doing that, they do not take PC. Now taking PC comes in the form of officer or letter, officer, I gotta go to the hole because my life is in danger. Exactly. Men don't conduct themselves in that manner.

SPEAKER_04 27:36

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 27:36

Don't the PC means protective custody for those that didn't know what it means. Now you have cases to where though your case is entirely too large and the police don't know what's gonna happen to you. So you'll get an administrative PC from the jail, not from your requests. So the guy you might get up there with your little life sentence, but your case is so big and crazy, or you might be a big time figure in the street that they automatically throw you in PC. The jail is called administration PC. That means that the jail puts you in PC. And they'll be coming to see you every week, like, yo, yeah, man, we thinking about letting you out, but you know, is why you might be on the door. The more you out in the in the hole and banging on the door, like, yo, no, you can let me out. I ain't tricky, they're gonna let you out their hole. Yeah. They you want to come out. But when you go down there and ask for PC, yeah, so that's what Boosie was talking about. So go ahead and finish this plain so I can, I know you got a question.

SPEAKER_04 28:27

No, so basically, you know, uh, they were going back and forth. Um, you know, Young Thug, he was saying, you know, I guess he I guess he said that it's better to be in PC because it's safe, because I got a family out here because of my stature. If I'm on the yard, walking out the yard, it's more of a chance something can happen to me out here because of my because of who I am. So it might be better for me to take a PC. Right. But I guess Boosie was saying, and I'm not trying to be cat, we're talking about PC and going to jail. So I guess P Boosie was saying, man, if you if you saying this you you a man, walk that yard. And he gave up a list of a list of names who he thought was, I guess, or who we know. Who he know that that stood up.

SPEAKER_05 29:06

That's stars that went to jail that did not take PC.

SPEAKER_04 29:09

Yeah. So for me, I never did no time. I never did no extensive time where as though I was like, had to pick and choose whether I was going to PC or population, whatever the case may be. But for me, I probably would have I can't I can't be locked in a cell for 23 hours and then come out for one.

SPEAKER_05 29:25

I can't just become a member too.

SPEAKER_04 29:27

Shout out to an uh whoever that is. Uh just give me speak to us.

SPEAKER_05 29:32

Ronell, Ronel, I can't pronounce the whole thing, but you know who you are, man. Thank you for becoming a member, man. We appreciate that.

SPEAKER_04 29:39

Shout out to you, man. Thank you a lot. Really appreciate that. All the support we're getting. So you got, right? So you got me. I never been to jail, like I said, I've been in a place where I had to pick and choose. But me being who I am, I can't see myself running, ducking it high and from any type of wreck or thinking that somebody's gonna do something to me because at the end of the day, we men. And it's gonna be people out there that mess with you, people who don't mess with you. But you gotta, you know, you gotta stand, you gotta stand tall, man. You gotta stand tall. And my opinion is just my opinion. So, but some people might be like, man, I got I might have I got short time, I'm trying to get up out, I ain't trying to lose my life in jail. I just don't, I don't agree with that. What about you?

SPEAKER_05 30:19

Um, PC requirements. Mine never took PC, we ain't gonna play with that. Um PC can go a lot of different ways, man. Like I said, the administration can cause I was in PC one day before. When I got stabbed over CFCS.

SPEAKER_04 30:35

I know, yeah, I know you were scared.

SPEAKER_05 30:36

You know what I'm saying? Come on, stop, stop. You get it, but there's not no game. We want some man shit, and people out here listening, and you over here heckling like people just start thinking like, damn, he did? Like, no, I was not. What happened was I got for real. Like, you this is a serious matter, and the motherfucker take that and play with it because you're playing.

SPEAKER_04 30:52

I'm gonna ask you a question.

SPEAKER_05 30:54

No, what happened was I I had been put in PC before. Why? It was North Philly versus South Philly. One of the real big wars that happened back when I was in the county. I was fighting two homicides. Um, everybody knows the person that stabbed me, he's real known. Come to find out this is my cousin, Big Hick. Peace be upon his soul. He's uh he's past now. And Hick stabbed me. Hick stabbed me. And it was, it wasn't even over me, it was over something else. The knife he stabbed me with, he stabbed me with a knife that I sharpened for him for four days. It was a squeezy. Y'all know what a squeezy looked like, and you can get the water off the windows and all that. At the top of the squeezy with a rubber part as, what rubber part is that you take off. I mean, that you get the water off, you can take that, peel it all the way off, that long part that you wipe in the window with, and then bend the metal to where it's getting hot, and it'll break off, and now you got a long piece of steel in your hand. It's about this long and about that thick. And you can sharpen it. And it's all metal. I had it out and sharpened it for four days and gave it to him. That's my young boy at the time. He's just a big old young boy. And um, little situation happened, whatever, long story short, but he stabbed me. I get stabbed, I go to, I had to go out, I got fire rescued. I had to go out to the hospital, ambulance had to take me, I had a collapsed lung. Upon me coming back from the hospital, they throw me straight in the hole. Straight in the hole. I don't go back to the unit I was on or nothing. Now this, they can do this. Um, and for all the men that have been bidding with me, everybody know this story to be correct. Uh, they come to me. They come to me about three days later. Uh the the the jail, the like the SIS of the jail and all that come to me. They got a uh photo album book of everybody that's on the on the unit. Yo, uh anyone, we know you were stabbed. We see the stab punctures all in your chest and your head and all that. Who did it? I'm like, man, I don't know, man. I was sleeping in bed. When I woke up, it was about five, six niggas stabbing on me. It was only me and him. It was only me and him. What no five, six niggas or nothing. I just told them a story to get them out of here. So they like, well, since you don't know who it was and you don't know who stabbed you, we gotta pit you in PC. So I'm like, well, damn, why y'all gotta pit me in PC? They like, man, it's real big because a lot of West dudes out there talking about they're riding for you, and it's a lot of North dudes out there talking about we ain't letting nobody do nothing to us. So to keep the problem down, the administration said, listen, just lock Jackson up. That's what we as long as he ain't out in population, the two different parts of the city ain't gonna be riled up. So, you mean uh they pit me in PC. I was in PC for about two months and then came out back to population. Came out once I kept, because every week they come see you, man. But with my case, oh no, Jackson, we ain't letting you out. We sending you to another jail. You know what I'm saying? You a part of a war that we trying to keep at bay. But it's administrative check-in. Now, for the men that come and you know you call yourself a stepper and you think you outnumbered. Sometimes, man, like, and it's it's messed up for me to say this, it's messed, it's gonna sound crazy. But when you out there stepping and you doing stuff and you killing and you crushing stuff, and you come to a jail, and it's them dudes outnumber you there, them dudes that who you was going at it with on the street and all that, a man not supposed to take PC, bro. He's not supposed to be like, yo, go to the police, yo, I gotta get off this joint. Now it would be the smart thing to do because you know you outnumbered.

SPEAKER_06 34:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 34:08

You know what I'm saying? It would be the if we talking real and logically, you're not going on there beating no eight niggas, and you don't know how many of the eight got knives. Or you know you ain't got a knife and you straight coming to this unit. But I have seen men get super busy. Soon as they get on the unit, they don't go to their cell or nothing, they suck a punch in the first nigga there, and boom. He done turn around, suck a punch, the guard near him, boom. He done turked all the way up. So now the police come break it all up, lock him up, take him to, but he ain't check in. He he got moved to another block where his honor is still intact. He went right over there riding. And that's how you got to go about it, bro. If you out there portraying something and you stepping and you shooting shit and you doing what you got to do, you can't go in them jails talking about some old PC, man. When you the best defense for you when you at a disadvantage is the pop immediately. You don't wait.

SPEAKER_04 34:59

Go right into offense.

SPEAKER_05 35:00

Soon as you come on the block with your bags, because niggas is standing around. Niggas standing around, they whispering, and niggas, oh yeah, he comes on the block now. Nigga, as soon as he comes on the block, we'll sell him in Miss and turn right up. Boom, he turned right up on whoever near him. Police gotta break that right up. Niggas like, damn, he done pulled a move and got out of here. Cool, I pulled the move. I gotta catch you, I'll catch you. We all over the jail. But I ain't checking in. Yeah, so a man ain't supposed to check in. So I agree with Boosie with that.

SPEAKER_04 35:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 35:26

Men do don't check into PC, bro. This is protect that follows you from jail to jail to jail. When you check in, especially in the feds, when you get to your next jail, SIS gonna call you when you get off the bus and RD. Oh yeah, Pai, uh, yeah, you got here because you checked in at your last spot. So you had an administrative transfer. You didn't have a disciplinary transfer and none of that. You had administrative because you can't be there, people trying to kill you or hurt you. So we had to get you out of this jail to put you in another jail where you could do your bid properly and go out into population. But like I said, it follows you. So now you're going out, now other niggas that was on the yard with you, because you're gonna see niggas. And one thing about the federal system, you will run back into a nigga three, four times out of five, ten-year bid. Especially if you're going from jail to jail to jail. So now it might be two, three niggas that was on that yard that come to this yard where you at. Oh, that's the boy Paige that checked in at the last jail. Like that drawing just is a stain on you until you get out of jail. Even when you out of jail, the homies out there, yeah, the boy checked in. That follows you for the rest of your life. Oh, he's a coward. He checked in.

SPEAKER_04 36:30

It's like a coward stamp.

SPEAKER_05 36:31

Yeah, you a coward. You a cold-blooded coward. The best thing to combat you being outnumbered is to go right away. Yeah. The go right away, the draw. Tip. I know y'all are gonna get me once I get situated. I go up here in this cell. I don't know who with who with who, and all I know is I don't know nobody on this block. I seen one or two dudes that I'm beefing with. I don't know how many other dudes they over here with. Alright, yeah, I'm going, I'm I'm faking like I'm going to the cell. I'm sucker punching, I'm sucker punching whoever near me. But this is a get out of the way pass real fast. Because they're gonna lock me up. I'm gonna do 30 days in the hole for sucker punching the nigga and all that, but I ain't checking. Because they're gonna add my 30 days, they're gonna let me out to another unit. So now I might be out like, yeah, y'all tried it, y'all tried it. Yeah, I mean, I gotta buy out of there, but holla at me. But all that, you going in there and you writing little letters and you sliding into the CO office and all that. Like, here you go. There's a cop out. I'm trying to go to medical whole time. CEO opened it up, you're like, yo, I gotta go check in, man. These dudes on the block, I'm scared for my safety. Yo, Jackson, come to the office. Next thing you know, go to the lieutenant office. Next thing you know, there's the guard up in my cell packing all my property up now because I went and checked in the PC. You know what I'm saying? So yeah, men ain't supposed to check into PC. So I agree with uh Boosie 100%. If you live in that life and you standing on business, which I don't condone standing on business and going out here shooting and selling dope, but if you are doing that and you say you a stepper and you take your ass to that penitentiary, man, you got to stand on business, man. You got to stand on business and checking in ain't a part of it. I'm gonna tell you a story about a nigga from Richard Nile and peace be upon his soul, named Rusty, and a lot of niggas that's from Philly hearing me tell the story know who this man is. And he wanted, he's he been killed. And he is, regardless, I don't know, I've been hearing little things about his name and whatever, but I ain't gonna get into all that. What I know of him is a man that he ain't taking no slack from nobody. Nobody. And um everybody that's from Philadelphia probably familiar with the Rudolph and the Hayes and the Sherman and the DeWitt case and all that, the Marcus Street niggas and all that. At the time when we was over the county, these dudes ran the county with an iron fist. It was so many of them. There's probably about 10 co-defendants in a hundred niggas that want to be around them every day. I'm talking about from West, North, South Philly. If anybody was over there with me, I know it's a lot of y'all watching, they'll know that this is what I'm saying is true. Rusty comes from Pick to CFCF, where we all at. Majority of Rudolph and all of them is over there. You know, Rudolph and them is the homies.

SPEAKER_06 38:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 38:56

Rusty over there with a couple of his men and all that, and they letting him know, like, listen, man, all them bulls is over here in this jail. Because they he did something to heads at Pick. That's why he got shipped to CFCF. So they like, man, all his code defenders is over here, and they got a bunch of niggas riding with him.

SPEAKER_06 39:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 39:13

He like, yeah, I ain't tripping about none of them niggas. Like every week, every Friday, they let like certain sides go to Jumar. They stopped this in CFCF. So C in C side is coming to Jumar, C bottom, C1, C2 is coming to Jumar. D1, D2, all four units, all four floors is coming to this one gym for Jumua. Now, that's about four or five hundred niggas in the gym for Jumar. Now, his co-defendants is telling Rusty, like, yo, don't go down there. They all be going down there. And we down there probably about a hundred deep. Man, he down there by himself, prayer rug. And I'm not, I'm like I said, I'm not promoting this, I'm just letting you know what's happened. He down there, prayer rug wrapped over his hand, knife in his hand. Rue walked past him. Yo, what's up? He like, uh, you know who I am? He like, man, I don't know, man. Fuck you, Shorty. And I'm watching, I'm a kid at the time. I'm watching this. Niggas told him a thousand times, do not go down there, all of them down there. That nigga came down there and was like, what's up? They stabbed him that got out on him. They crushed him. That nigga got up off the ground. The police was trying to spray everybody to break it up, and they were spraying him the most. He had his knife on him. He picked his knife back up the ground and started chasing niggas in the crowd. Whoever was out there in that gym and was near him got stabbed by him. And I respect it. He ain't go do no checking in. He stood on his punishment like a man, and he ain't tell on them niggas. But they got it all, you know what I mean? Niggas didn't say something, so they locked everybody up, a part of it. Them saying the stabbings and all that, niggas was beating him with sticks and all that. But how he carried it, he could have gone and checked in. He ain't had to come down that gym. Yeah. They went on the blocks with him. His codifens is telling him, yo, do not go down there. He like, I don't care about none of that. And he knew wasn't nobody riding with him. He knew these dudes got to jail. He knew who heads was over there. He got to jail over pick. That shit was just crazy. But you don't, and I just gave that story up as an example. That man did not check in and take PC. He came down there and took his punishment like a man. What's his name again? Rusty? Rusty.

SPEAKER_04 41:15

Where you from?

SPEAKER_05 41:15

Uh Richard Island.

SPEAKER_04 41:16

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_05 41:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 41:17

How he got killed?

SPEAKER_05 41:19

Oh, he got murdered. He got murdered out there in the street. You know, Rusty's just a wild boy. He a wild boy, and you know, I just heard about it the other day. One of my good men that I be with know him real well.

SPEAKER_04 41:28

Oh, he got killed recently.

SPEAKER_05 41:30

No, not recently, a couple years ago and stuff like that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 41:33

Yeah. So well, I guess, you know, he he showed that he ain't he's not going to PC. He ain't checking in.

SPEAKER_05 41:39

Now I mean, uh, what's the name just said just now? I want to get the name right. Uh, Cam. Cam said it's a fool's honor, and you are absolutely right. But playing on this side of the fence, you got to take that role if you say you standing on business. So if you ain't standing on business, take your ass and go get you a job, go get you a family, a girl, and stand on business about that family. Because when you over here and you saying that you stepping in all that, it's a lot of rules that ain't govern it for the street. This is a whole different set of rules.

SPEAKER_04 42:13

And it may not make sense to the person out here walking around the field.

SPEAKER_05 42:15

It's not, you're talking about mate, it's not making sense. Like you see what the man said, a fool's honor. And he's absolutely right. That's a fool's honor. Who won't go check in? That would be the right thing to do to preserve yourself, but you are a coward for the rest of your life from doing that in there. You got the, yeah, man, you got the you got to get in there, man. You got to get in there. Like I say, again, we're not uh glorifying this or promoting this, like this is the way of life. No. But when you in that penitentiary and you out there saying that you're doing all this and doing all that, if you go take your ass and check in, nigga, you're a coward. And that's just it. So I agree with Boosie. Boosie was damn sure right.

SPEAKER_04 42:55

Yeah. But a lot of people, like you said, people want to people be you don't want to use the word scared, but it may be a little bit of fear there. It's some fear there. Because it's a fear that you won't get harmed.

SPEAKER_05 43:06

Yeah, it's fair there. You, you, you, you, you, you, you, you're every the blood is flowing. You your head on the swivel. Yeah, ain't nobody down that joint courageous, like, yeah. Well, I'm saying, but because after the fear come courageous, like y'all niggas really trying to disrespect me. I done seen a dude get out on two, three niggas that try to come for him. So niggas can win. And when the odds is against them, because they was really playing. You three niggas was around here playing with this killer. And he showed you three niggas that y'all cowards. Yeah. I done seen it a thousand times, bro. Just because four niggas come from you don't mean it's gonna happen. Y'all better not be playing. One nigga he coming, he punt fake and acting like he's gonna pull the knife and don't really pull it, and then he done got knocked out. Yeah, don't be damn near playing. Go get your man. And again, we're not promoting this or glorifying it. This is what goes on in the penitentiary at an alarming rate. That's just it. Wow.

SPEAKER_04 44:01

And uh shout out to Meek Mill. Meek Meek Mill said, man, I walked the yard too, man. Yeah. He said, I ain't I ain't checking. I ain't checking.

SPEAKER_05 44:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 44:08

Cause well, that that's that's like a that's like you said, that's like like a stripe. That's like you know, like I'm I ain't checking in no matter how much money I got. I'm I could be a millionaire, billionaire, whatever I got.

SPEAKER_05 44:18

Exactly. I ain't checking in. Exactly. And and Meek Mill was so disgruntled about it, because he he was disgruntled about it because he was he didn't make the list. He like, why I wasn't on that list, Boosie. Boosie is man. Boosie had to get Boosie got on there and apologized. Damn, Meek, I thought I threw you on that list. My fault, but you a man too, Shorty. Yeah, that's what Boosie. I just seen the clip right before I got in here. And I'm like, well, damn. You know what I mean? Meek, like, nah, but me. I mean, Meek talking about some yeah, uh, I don't talk about jail life because it's embarrassing. I talk about it, it's a it's embarrassing. You're right, Meek is embarrassing, but I talk about it for the awareness. Yeah, I don't talk about it to give me a badge of honor. I got my own badge of honor. All them years, I I work for my badge of honor.

SPEAKER_04 44:57

Yeah. So, but I understand where you're coming from too, though. He's like, man, like I'm trying to be on some, you know, some you know, prison reform. I'm trying to go away from that, but I'm pretty sure he might have had his experiences in there where it's like, yo, he had to, you know, not on duty, he had to bite down. You know what I'm saying? Exactly. Embrace himself for you know that environment. Because you're not out here and and walk walking the streets, riding around in Lamborghinis, Rolls Royces. That's that's out the window. Yeah, all the way out the window. You gotta jump suit in the numbers. So you gotta, that's that's who you are in here.

SPEAKER_05 45:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 45:27

You know what I'm saying? Nobody don't care about nothing you got out there going on.

SPEAKER_05 45:32

Man, all that you was sending them hitters and all, all that shit stops at the door, bro. You get in that place, man. That's a whole that I don't know how many times I gotta keep telling y'all and telling y'all, but I I'm up for the task, and if I got to keep doing it till I fall out, I'm gonna do that. Just to try to reach one person, bro. Ladies, kids, grown men, that place in there, man. I I can't just like I it's not an it's not enough heinous words in my mind to describe that. Like the when you think left is right in there. Like, oh my eyes, like stay your ass out of there, man. That's just it.

SPEAKER_04 46:12

Okay, yeah, because you get in there once you get in there, man. Like, cause think about it though, a lot of people come from off the streets, right? Yeah. And some people was like on the streets, like you said, out here murdering, shooting, killing, robbing, stealing. But they are, I'll say that they're king out here because they got a gun. Exactly. Once they get in there, they cur. They you see them. What about those boys you seen going there? They they just they ain't they ain't who they all was in the streets.

SPEAKER_05 46:39

It's a lot of them, they get knocked out, slapped up, PC'd up. That's why you got PC for them niggas. This is nigga running around, he got four homicides, but he on PC. You ain't got that gun in here. It takes a whole different type of err to stab a nigga. It's easy for me to keep it pushing. To get up on you, especially if you ready and you waiting on me. See, it's one way I'm you playing ball, you don't see me coming, and I walk up and give you two and run off on a yard somewhere. But I know you know I'm coming and you and I know you got it on you too. Gladiator. Come on, man. This shit, this shit, what? Uh uh, like you said, gladiator shit. Are you not entertained 300 for real? 300 for real. This is what's going on, bro. At an alarming rate. And people get in there and they can't, they can't handle it. Nah, man. First time seeing it. It's a different type, it levels the heart, man. It's a different type of heart you gotta have for that, man. And I'm not again, I'm not saying you got to go to jail to be a man. No, you don't. I wish I ain't had to go in there. I'm so embarrassed that you got to look at me, tell you these stories. And I can't show you how to work an email properly. But I could tell you how you got to sharpen that knife up and all that, but it's just the the spoon that I was given at birth. You know, it's sad, man. It's sad. I don't sit up here with pride and joy and laughter about this shit. Nah, this shit corny, man. I tell you this, man, for those out there that's doing what they're doing. Again, if you stepping and you out there, I don't I don't listen, to each his own. I just want to bring you a message. If you are doing that and you don't die first, boy, that penitentiary worse than death, man. Oh my god, that penitentiary, you you better off getting shot in your head than going there.

SPEAKER_04 48:21

What did you think when you seen, I'm pretty sure you saw it, like I just mentioned, you saw guys come in from outside, four or five murders, hats, whatever you want to call it. They out there, they king out there with that with that weapon, and they came in there and didn't live up to the representation that they had on the streets. Right with the time.

SPEAKER_05 48:39

I got numbed to it after a couple years because when I first seen it, it's like, whoa. Well, what the hell? Well, god damn, like what he needed is guys with him or something like that? Like, because most of the time when it comes like that, you you you really like outnumbered. But I seen men be outnumbered, like I was just telling you about Rusty. He know these niggas is all got knives down here waiting on him. And he took his ass to that gym. Like I said, it takes a different type of heart for that.

SPEAKER_04 49:05

What did it what was he saying when it when it was going? Was he was he talking or wasn't it?

SPEAKER_05 49:08

No, they wasn't saying nothing. They was getting busy. You talking about what he was saying. What is there to be saying? You getting that knife put in you by five, six different niggas, and then another five, six, five, six different niggas cracking you with broomsticks, and another five, six niggas giving you all boots. Come on, what the hell are you gonna be saying? I ooh, we that's the only motherfucking thing you can say. Talking about what they was saying. This nigga be tripping like shit, man.

SPEAKER_04 49:33

He was like, yo, look, it was because sometimes in combat, people be talking in combat sometimes. You know what I'm saying? It don't be don't be short curse words and stuff like that when uh when it's combat.

SPEAKER_05 49:45

No, no, no, no, no, no. That'd be like a little one-on-one. When you got about 40 on one, all you hear is there's a whole bunch of that. There's a whole bunch of that. Whole bunch of that. That's it. That's all you hear. Growling, ain't too much words that's algebra. What was the word that's out uh that's that you're gonna understand?

SPEAKER_04 50:07

Yeah, yeah. It's uh it's just the uh the uh killer be killed instinct kicks in. Yeah, so ain't no talking, ain't no point in talking.

SPEAKER_05 50:14

And then kill or be killed instinct kicking, and then survival mode kicking too. When you see that you can't beat the wave.

SPEAKER_04 50:21

Is it true? It's not better to run, because like somebody told me like when you get when you're getting attacked in prison, it's best to stand there and fight because you try to run, they just get you.

SPEAKER_05 50:29

It's getting bad, especially if you don't know where it's coming from, and then there's a lot of open space in there. You running from one end, and and then dudes set it up. Like dudes set it up, man. It might be Tim Philly niggas, and I might be like, all right, y'all three go over there in the bathroom. Us three going pro team, y'all three go by the exit to the gym. So now you thinking it's just us three. I'd have smacked you. Bam! You might get on your bike. You haul ass in there. You go into the bathroom, my man come out there and whopp you. A whopping. Now you like, damn, how many? Now you going this way. Now there's the three other you you you you you got to stay there, you got a better chance, and uh how crazy it may sound, you got a better chance standing there fighting them dudes than turning your back and running.

SPEAKER_04 51:11

Yeah. Because now you run into all types of.

SPEAKER_05 51:14

Like, and who would sit there and say, I know people was probably listening to me right now, like black lost his damn mind. But you got a better chance of standing there fighting that wave and taking that brunt straight on than turning around and giving the enemy your back trying to run. Unless you fast as a man. If you fast and your bike got banshee wheels on it, then by all means necessary, fire that joan up.

SPEAKER_04 51:43

Yeah, boy. You know, you can't because the block you say is open, but it'd be tables there. You can't get around the eating area. It's like, it's too much. I just saw people try to run from the um the stabbings and then get stabbed in the in your back, in the back of your head, trying to run. It's just it get bad.

SPEAKER_05 52:01

It's always always never a time where it gets good. And you bet and you sitting there watching it, because I've been stabbed. I've been stabbed on two different occasions. So you be sitting there hoping that the police, you be hoping nigga be pretty nigga be the on the CO side like hell then. Nigga be like, where is the officer at around here? While he on his bike. I got stabbed one time over the F, but other time it's another time, other than the bull. Or we we we go and we in a hole. We in a hole. Story time from me real fast. We in a hole. Me, my man, Lil Clarky from out West Philly. Got little DeWitt down there from West Philly, too. DeWitt got burnt for some cigarettes by this nigga that's down there. Nigga from, I don't know where he was from. He was from somewhere, but he got burnt for some cigarettes. Me, Clarky get out of the cell. He like, yo, go holler, because he can't come out with us when we come out. It's top tier, bottom tier.

SPEAKER_06 52:55

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_05 52:56

So we get out. He like, that nigga burnt me for some cigarettes. Like, yeah, he burnt you for some cigarettes. We slides in the cell on him. Yo, what's up, man? You got some cigarettes? He like, no, we in the hole. I got a ball packed in my property. I slap him, bam, my man stealing, boom. We in there jumping off the bump bed on him. We having a ball on his ass. Beled the ass that day. He like, yeah, I deserved it that. You know what I mean? I ain't going to no police. He's like, all right, that's enough. He's trying to, we tired as hell from we beat him so long. You only out for an hour. We probably get on his ass about 25 minutes of that hour. So he like, man, I ain't gonna tell on y'all he bleeding and all that. It's cool. I deserved that. I shouldn't have done it. With at the door, bringing the door. Yeah, punch him again. You know, we in there, we you know, we got to jail. Unknown to me, I'm thinking it's over with. He took that on the chin. About three days go past. When you go to medication over the hole in uh CFCF, they're chef, they're they'll cuff you up. You get cuffed up, you come out your cell, you go to the door, go to medication. But they go into everybody's cell that gotta go get medication, and they open the door and they cuffing that person that gotta go get medication. So it might be 10, 15 motherfuckers that's cuffed up going across the unit to medication. I'm wondering why they got a cold, I'm taking Benadryl or something. So I get to I'm using any excuse to come out the cell. So dudes is signing up, yo, I need Tylenol just to get out the cell. You in the hole.

SPEAKER_06 54:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 54:13

So, you know, the nigga that I stabbed, he like three niggas in front of me. I mean, not the nigga that I stabbed, but the nigga that I beat up. He uh three niggas in front of me. I'm out. I'm talking to niggas on the top tier because I'm on the bottom tier. I'm like, yo, y'all got some magazines up there, send something down for me to read or whatever. All right, boom. He goes, he, you know, you gotta wait. When when a person go into, you know, the little medical joint, they get their little medication, everybody can't just crowd in there. They make you wait in a single foul line. So he you, when you come back out, they usually uncuff you at your cell and put you in your cell and lock your door back. But he must have got uncuffed at the door. I never knew. But I'm still, I'm like three people behind him, so I'm still waiting to get seen by the medical to get my medication. Whole time, he uncuffed now. I don't know it. I'm thinking he back in his cell locked in. I come back from getting my medication. Instead of me going to get uncuffed, I went over to the CO desk and was like, yo, it was like it was at the camp time. So I know they ready to pass out the mail again. Uh they ready to pass out the mail now. So I'm, you know, me, I'm thirsty on that mail back then. Yeah. So I'm like, yo, CO did Jackson, you got the mail, right? He's like, yeah, he got the mail all separated on the dust, he's taking that up the top tier, taking this. So I'm like, yo, will anything come from a Jackson today? Anybody write a Brahim Jackson today? But as I'm talking to him, I'm still cuffed up. I ain't let the guard uncuff me where I can go to myself because we got to lock right back in. All I hear is, I hate you. But before I turned around, I felt a uh like a punch in my back. But when I turn around, I look at him and he goes to raise that joint again. I told you that shit wasn't over. No me, I jump right on my bike. I turn right up, banchy. I'm on one, I'm on one wheel. Cause when you ain't got these, you on one wheel. I'm jumping off. It's like three steps to go down in the little day room over CSC. I jump off of them, boom, but he's running right behind me. He's trying to catch me. Niggas is banging on the door. Run faster, run, don't let him catch you, black. I'm ho I'm skipping up the steps. So now I'm looking at the guards like we on the top tier. I'm trying to get around him. He's coming at me. I run down another way, he's chasing me. I'm talking about, I'm jumping in the steps eight at a time. But I gotta watch myself because I'm cuffed. Yeah. Be holding my last and through the door by the door, I run past, trip that nigga black, trip him. I ain't listening to none of you niggas. Man, I'm trying not to get that iron on me again.

SPEAKER_06 56:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 56:27

But I'm looking for the police, like y'all pass now. Well, y'all, what if y'all gonna come get this nigga off my ass? They come in finally, mates him, get me, but I feel like my back wet. So I know it's blood. So they get me over in medical. It's already everybody was going to medical, they uncuffed me that take off your jumper. But I'm I got a t-shirt on, so I'm wiping the blood up as I'm trying to take the t-shirt up. Yeah, but I'm not trying to take it all the way off. I got like two holes on like two punctures on my the top part of my back. So I'm wiping the shit up and I'm showing the guard my back, like, yeah, it ain't nothing. He ain't never stabbed me. I was running fast as a mother. Guard was like, no, he hit you and your shot seen him hit you. So I'm like, they make me getting ass-necked now. So now you see the shit. Yeah. So he he all hollering like, I told you I was gonna get one of you niggas. I'm like, yeah, you got me. It's cool. You know what I'm saying? So you can't you can't go around thinking shit sweet in that joint, man. Yeah. Thinking because a dude waited two, three days. Nah, bro. That knife play is different, bro. Getting that knife in you. But I got on my bike that day because I was I was faster than him. Because once I got the running, he ain't stabbed me not one more time after that.

SPEAKER_04 57:31

Oh man, that's crazy. But we got a question um from Wicked Hebrew. He said, uh, are some of these prisons haunted? Do you have any experiences you can speak of or heard of? Thanks for the uh daily uh content.

SPEAKER_05 57:45

Oh, and shout out to him too. He just uh Yeah, Wicked just uh he just he just donated.

SPEAKER_04 57:50

Yeah, shout out yeah, so I'm saying but he he said a haunted prison. I don't know, I don't know I don't know. I'll let you answer that.

SPEAKER_05 57:55

A haunted prison meaning like a spiritually joined with ghosts and all nah, that's that's some myth shit or it live in your head. I ain't never woke up to no ghost talking to me or heard ooh in the middle of the night. Only ooh you hearing is because the main man down the hall getting his issue. That's the only ooh, why you hearing it and you ain't hearing no damn ghosts or no shit like that. Nigga down there getting some head till he dead. That's it.

SPEAKER_04 58:18

Not on duty.

SPEAKER_05 58:19

No, yeah, we ain't on duty, but that's what's going on in there.

SPEAKER_04 58:22

So I'm gonna ask you a question. Um when you stab somebody, right? And have altercation with somebody in the cell, only only what the inmates know about. I mean they get out to the guards, altercation happened, and y'all are seeing each other in the day room or walking past each other. What's that type of uh, you know, uh vibe? What's that vibe? Like when I see him, we just like, yeah, I just I trashed you, but yeah. Like, what's what's the vibe?

SPEAKER_05 58:45

Either he gonna get back or he a cold-blooded sucker for the one that got stabbed. And then if he got homies, the homies ain't letting that go like, man, you gotta get that nigga back. Or you can't walk this yard no more. You getting forced. You forced in there to be a man, bro. Like your car come to you and be like, damn, what's up? You cool with that? Like, what when you when you when you plan on getting buddy back? And you in there like, man, that shit wasn't about nothing, man. Nigga won't bother nothing. Oh, you got you got to go, cuz. Then the whole car done turned on you because now if something ever happened to one of us, we know for a fact you ain't riding. Stay out of there, y'all. This is a wicked game inside there, bro.

SPEAKER_04 59:21

So you gotta face your per face the person who assaulted you and you're on an everyday basis. And you gotta get back. You better get back. Or if not, you up out of the exact is it different than the county?

SPEAKER_05 59:32

Same way. You get carried, like it's different. No, it's a lot different in the county because it ain't like we got like Philly niggas gotta stick together more. So no, over there, we in the county, we more so geographical. West Philly, North Philly, South Philly, Uptown, you know, all the geographical shit. So if I got a couple homies over there that's with me from West, they gonna probably be mad about it, but then they'll just disown me if I don't do nothing. Like, man, I ain't trying to be rolling with this nigga, this nigga coward. The niggas be looking if it's three of us to be together and you got stabbed and we he don't do nothing, and we don't do nothing, everybody be like, Yeah, whole group suckers. Yeah, I just knocked Bull out the other day, his man didn't see the one. I'm I'm thinking about knocking him out today. You know what I'm saying? So that's how I go. It's it's crazy.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:11

Yeah, man. You either occur or err. Yeah. One or the other. Wow. So these type of incidents go on continuously in there. Like, whereas though the the prisoners govern, they govern the jail, meaning like I go in the cell where nobody can hear what's going on. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:27

Yeah, nigga call you in the cell, man. Come to my cell. Nigga go, if I see you doing that and you my man, I'll come over there and stand at the door, make sure don't nobody come in. But I'm over there like I'm lollygagging, just looking around and all that, but the whole time I'm sharifing that door. I got foot on door or something like that. My head, you better not look like you taking an L because I'm coming in.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:47

So what if it's like multiple people that go in there, like say, say your homie go in there, and then another person's homie go in there. Do both of the homies stand at the door while they go in there? Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:56

Yeah, that's how we went to the uh smooth program. How we went to the smooth program, another story, a little quick, fast joint, because I ain't gonna make it about me today. Um, I went and did what 18, 24 months in smooth program, me, slider, slider base, stand up, Ryan, uh, big lean, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh Feek, Feek from down north. It was probably about 12 of us. And what happened was Feek was rumbling a nigga from upstate New York in the band room. And Philly was standing on this side of the band room, and the new upstate New York niggas was standing on, and so we like facing off while they in there rumbling. And Feek trashing him, feek getting out on him, banging him off of uh drums and guitars and everything. They in the music room. Feek trashing him, but we got a hot head from a hot head from the city named Boss, Boss from Southwest, stand up. That's my man. Boss looking at one of the New York boys in front of the door that's getting too close to the door and just knocking him out. Boom! And that joint just went left from there. It's like both sides just fell into each other like the seat closing back up. Yeah, it was bad. So it gets bad as a drop. I'm talking about you be sitting there just one minute you whistling Dixie, next minute you trying to get at something. I'm talking about the drop of a dime. Any given second. You always gotta keep your head on swivel. Always.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:14

Now, these now you mentioned a lot of these stabbings, right? Yeah. And these, and these, in these, in these weapons. How are they hiding a lot of these, not without giving out like how are they hiding these weapons? Like these knives in their cells. How they how are they hiding them?

SPEAKER_05 1:02:28

Cheek them!

SPEAKER_04 1:02:29

Ain't nobody cheeking on knife.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:31

Well, you're talking about ain't nobody cheeking no knife. You ask me a question, I told you, then you're gonna say ain't nobody cheeking a knife. You ask me a question, I'm gonna tell you the truth. So niggas is hiding them inside rice by boxes, and and this is well known to the police, so we're not up here telling. The police coming in the the best way to get or inside your mattress, but the best way to get it off, if they ain't got no detect metal detectors, or if you got a plexus at plexiglass joint and it don't go off with the metal detector, wrap him up in some toilet paper and cheek it. And when I say cheek it, I ain't talking about put it inside your rectum. See, that's one thing that you probably think, and that's why you always want to joke. No. When I say cheek it, you crack your cheeks and you lay it down your crack and let your cheeks close back over top of it. So nail is like a briefcase. You carrying a knife in your ass. You laughing. That's why I'll be wanting to sit up here and tell you about these stories because it's a real like it's a briefcase though. That's what it's a briefcase. You got a briefcase now, and then you're carrying luggage around.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:27

Oh my God.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:30

I mean, sure, I'll not the only one that's surprised to hear you say that.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:34

A briefcase though. Yeah. It's a man. The lost his goddamn mind, man.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:41

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:43

It's a man. What y'all gonna do with him, y'all? Yeah. Trying to tell y'all what's going on. He thinks this is uh night of the comedy.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:49

It ain't me though, it's him. He said, So your backside turned to a briefcase. Yo, yeah, it is man. Yeah. Are you serious? Where'd you come up with club with that? Where'd you get that from?

SPEAKER_05 1:04:04

That's what the men came up with. You got where you got that joint. I got in my luggage. All right, come on, we out. Man, crazy as shit, man.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:12

Yo, what got what kind of luggage luggage you got?

SPEAKER_05 1:04:15

Man, we ain't got we got Nike bags and shit like that. We ain't got Louie in there. These little Nike joints and shit like that. This nigga crazy as hell. See, I bet, man. That man crazy, man.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:25

Yo, we crazy, man. He said he had Nike. Well, this is what you gotta do to survive in there, right?

SPEAKER_05 1:04:32

You you better. You better. I'm talking about they say if it's a war going on outside and everybody on the rec yard, and you know everybody just came through the metal detector shack. Everybody walks through that joint with it either in their shoe or in their briefcase. Half the time, they ain't trying to put it in the shoe because you got a guard to do a surprise pat down over there. You take your shoes off. They ain't cracking your suitcase open. And they ain't going in in there unless it's a uh a strip search. And nine times out of ten, you ain't getting strip search right now. So your suitcase is cool, your luggage is safe. That's your carry-on. You know how you got you got big luggage, they gotta go underneath the plane, and then you got your carry-on. Yeah, your ass is your carry-on. All right, all right, all right.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:17

Yo, so everybody everybody got carry-ons in um in prison. Uh everybody got a carry-on, yeah?

SPEAKER_05 1:05:24

Yeah. Everybody, whether it's small or big. Yeah, everybody got a carry-on. Everybody, every man gets a carry-on.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:32

So, how many wax can people fit in their briefcase now on duty?

SPEAKER_05 1:05:34

Man, numerous, man. Shit. I was getting like four. My man was getting 12. Like, shit. I put him in the sock. I line them all up and roll them up in the sock real decent. Like that joint be all long. That joint be. I'm not like again, you're not pitting it in your ass. We're not talking about no homosexual stuff.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:49

Can you do something though? Can you show people how you would walk with it?

SPEAKER_05 1:05:52

Like walk from. Oh shit. If uh you gotta you gotta you gotta clench, you gotta clench your briefcase, you gotta put the double lock on. And you just walk around. Like what are we saying? Why your back still straight off? The firmer you stand up, the tighter your case closed. You know what I mean? And that's just it. Man, if for all y'all going to jail, make sure y'all take that strategy and use it well.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:18

You had 12 in your suit.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:20

I'll be having like eight. Yeah, bring them up, unwrap them joints, give you one, give him one. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_04 1:06:28

Yo, man. Yo, that's crazy. Stay out of jail, man. Yo, my mice, my man said, yeah, 12 of them. Well, I guess that's the lifestyle of jail, see? You know what I mean? So everybody, so once once you get across, you can hand them, just start passing them the wax, the knives out, huh? And you go, everybody got a weapon now. Huh? Huh? So I'm saying, once you get to where you get to, everybody pass the weapons out.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:55

Yeah, you once once you get to the director and all that, for the dudes, like I might have had them on my unit. You know what I mean? For the like I was up Ray, I mean, uh not Ray Brook, but McKing. And I had a hole behind my mirror, because I was making wine and stuff back in my ignorant days. And we used to put every, if it was the mirror, you put it back on there. And what I used to do is I used to take my hole up, and a lot of men that's watching this know this is the facts that know me. I used to, we I we knock the hole in there, and then it's pipes back there. Like for the hot water and stuff like that. And it was good to put your wine back there and let it sit on the pipe and it get the cooking even better. But what you do is, you know, like the back of a notepad, it'd be like that brown thing in the back of a notepad, the brown thing to keep it straight where you can write. We'd take them off, and I'll take that little square back of the notepad up there, and then we was allowed to buy uh laundry detergent at the time. We had washers and dryers, and they'd sell laundry detergent, and they'd sell like Barney's fabric softness sheets. So I'll buy that and then I'll just lay that up there, take that up because the wine would get the smelling. So you gotta keep make sure you're selling something because the guards don't want to shake down. But then I'll put another bag back there with five, six, seven knives in it. Like you might be my homie on another block, but you might be on a nutty block and ain't got no stash. And you'll come to me and be like, damn, black hold my knife for me and get alright, cool. I'm gonna I'm putting it right in the stash and the joint on my wall. You know what I'm saying? But now they done made us all go to the gym and I know something going on, and I know you're waiting for me, I got to bring the knives down. So I wrap all them joints up in the stock, had that joint like a cucumber, whatever, I don't do it. And cheek it and keep it going. I don't do it. You talking about not on duty, but this is real, this real man talk. The men that know me and that been in there, they done cheeked it before. Yeah, every nigga that put in there playing with knives done put that joint his ass before. And that's just it.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:36

We're talking about turning to a cucumber. Why you why would you use that type of analogy?

SPEAKER_05 1:08:40

You would talk about because it's looking like it looked like war hot dog or whatever you want to say. Like you're talking about not on duty. Like this is real rap we talking about, bro. Yeah, I hate it. I hate when you do that, though, but it's not no, it's not lasting.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:52

Yo, listen. Hey, hey, hey, listen, listen, young. You talk about some 12 knives turn to a and then it's like a cucumber though?

SPEAKER_05 1:08:59

All right, man. And then cheeking it. Let's move on along, man. Because you did you want to, it's like your mind is just stuck right there. Come on, man.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:06

It's just crazy. This man, it's just crazy. Yo, what's up with so when these with these things, when these situations arise, like say somebody once you had a knife all the way over here. Oh, so you so what if something happened and they can't get in contact with you, like, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_05 1:09:23

What you mean?

SPEAKER_04 1:09:24

Like, say they run into somebody they got beef with and then they got a way for you to bring the knife down to them.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:28

Oh, or or send word back up to me or something like that. You know what I mean? Niggas niggas find a way to get their knife, especially if you got it. I'm gonna find a way to get you to get that to me. I need that. So half the time niggas is just rolling with that joint on them. Like, man, if the police come find me with a fucking. I'm I live by the sword, I die by the sword. Meaning that police come, I ain't throwing my iron. I respect that too. They locking him up 30 days.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:51

Yeah, I because you if you got beef, you gotta walk around with that. Yeah, exactly. You know what I mean? Okay, I'm I'm I'm gonna get I'd rather be caught with it than without it.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:59

Exactly. Same, exactly. Exactly.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:02

But yeah, man, you're about to get to these phone calls, man. This guy, man, he he made my day today, man. You know, made my day today. This this this job Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:12

Call in, man. Yeah, yeah. We're waiting for some calls, man. Anybody got some questions, man? Or anything like it?

SPEAKER_04 1:10:18

And get disconnected. Yeah, I ain't paid the bill yet.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:20

Well, it ain't been you just paid the bill. It ain't been 30 days since the last time you paid it.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:23

We gotta see.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:24

No, it ain't been 30 days since the last time you paid.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:26

Yeah, but y'all know the number, man. 215-316-4492. That's 215-316-4492. Come on, call and talk to us about you know, the cool PC, you know, Boosie, you know, saying what he gotta say, the young thug saying we had to say Rahlo was involved. Shout out to Rahlo, Rahlo was on Tell us in the jail episode, is now available for for all members. Um, you know, you got people who have their opinion, and everybody's entitled to their opinion about jail or what they're doing. Exactly, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:54

But what they endured in there, a lot of people like, man, I think it's this way because I'm all right, yeah, but I know which way it is. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:00

So some people might agree with uh with uh thug about prison. PC. Tell us when the jail is who you speaking with today. Somebody hung up. Yeah, man. So some some people might might might agree. I mean, the the more logical person might say, yeah, man, you about to come home, man. But that's a horrible bill. You gotta be locked in all day.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:22

Yeah, bro. You in that hole? 23 and 1. And then sometimes you like you like going out. Tell us in the jail.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:32

Hey, no, it's Ray, man. Let's keep checking in. I'm watching y'all right now.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:38

Appreciate that, bro. Who you speaking with today? This is Ray. Ray Hustle, New York. Where you calling from right here? Where you calling from, man? Oh North Philly.

unknown 1:11:47

Everybody.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:50

I saw David Lee second day in court. Oh, yeah. 706. Okay. You fight. How your case look? You got a case? Yeah, this is my first preliminary. Yeah, there. All right, cool. Well, man, hopefully you make out with that, man. Stay free, bro. Enjoy your night, man. Yeah, 215-316-4492. 215-316-4492. Call in. Talk to us about this whole PC, you know, cheeking you know, all this stuff. He got going on. I don't know what's going on. Briefcase. Carry on bags and all his all his analogies he's using. But that's that's that's prisoner's life. Tell us in the jails who we speak with today.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:40

Hey, this L T out of Pittsburgh.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:42

Shout out to L T, what's up, bro? Shout out to Pittsburgh.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:44

What's up, Pick?

SPEAKER_04 1:12:45

What's going on?

SPEAKER_02 1:12:46

No, I wanted to holler at Black, because look, Black, you know, when we was up Victorville, and they say the policemen are down on that joint, and we got them tablets on us. You know, we used to cheat them joints, Black. Yeah, I'm used to superarm and rape.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:57

And a super aluminum rate. I know. I know. I mean you one thing about it, you you're not gonna understand it unless you was in there. And a lot of people, you know, they like to laugh and joke and they're looking at it as some homosexuality. In all reality, you trying to safeguard your property to the fullest. So if teaching was a way to get it past the police, I'm cheeking my junk. I'm getting to the unit with my I need this tablet.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:22

How do you get it?

SPEAKER_05 1:13:24

What do you mean? I don't know, bro. Like cool. You can you you can cheek something. You just acting like you know you can tick something right now out here in the real world. No, I ain't gonna. If you had to cheat it, if you had a legal gun to kind of pull you over and it was a little 22, I bet you you both boofing.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:37

You can so you can just do that. You're not on duty, duty, right?

SPEAKER_05 1:13:40

Not on duty.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:41

Hey no, but I wanted to ask you though, you said Philly is uh 066. So what is Pittsburgh's last three numbers up there?

SPEAKER_05 1:13:47

Um, uh oh my God. Oh, damn. 6'1 Damn. I'm I'm because we got a call back in the morrow, but I'm probably gonna get it tonight. One of my men. Anybody that knows what's Philly's number is, man, text in the YouTube chat, man. I mean uh Pittsburgh uh last three, I think it's 067.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:06

067. Wasn't in the core with Philly. Why Philly and Pittsburgh make that core strong, the Pennsylvania core?

SPEAKER_05 1:14:12

Because the way, because we the two biggest cities in Pennsylvania, and then we just like looking at each other like no, we the if it's something that gets out of hand and you got like three, four cities against one of us, then we'll get together.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:25

But if we like Philly and Pittsburgh always separated, man. I'm like, come on, man, we both PA and we can make the car strong and run the joint. I'm like, man, why aren't they? Was it like was it like that at all the joint?

SPEAKER_05 1:14:36

Yeah, yeah, pretty much so. But we'll still have like a PA day. Like everybody's from PA, we having food out there and get together and talking, basketball tournaments amongst us, just PA.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:48

Yeah, because when I, you know, when I was locked up, uh, I don't know if you remember when um uh it was about to be a PA Super Bowl, the Steelers and the Eagles.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:55

Yeah, that was a while ago too. I remember that.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:58

Yeah, yeah, because Arizona knocked y'all off. Exactly. Yeah, and so look, Arizona knocked y'all off. So we play up Arizona next week. Man, when when when Larry Fitz uh Fitzburg when he when he um scored that touchdown, two minutes left. Everybody banging on the door, Philly. They want us to lose. I'm like, damn, they just beat y'all thought y'all want us to win. But you know, we came back and uh Robinsberger that two-minute drill, but yeah, man. For some reason, when it comes to sports Philly and Pittsburgh, they get into it a little bit.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:24

Yeah, that's crazy, man. But thanks for the call, man. Enjoy your night, man. Thank you for the support, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:28

Shout out to you. Oh, yes, sir. Y'all keep up the good work, C Black. Yeah, thank you, appreciate you. All right, later, later.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:35

So you can you can you can you can check this mic right here?

SPEAKER_05 1:15:38

Oh Pittsburgh is 0682. 068. I say 067.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:43

Who you speaking with? Tell us from the Joe's.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:45

This is Ted from North.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:47

What's out? You say you said Ted?

SPEAKER_01 1:15:49

Ted.

unknown 1:15:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:52

What's up, Ted, man? From North Shout out to North Philly. What's up, bro?

SPEAKER_01 1:15:55

What's good, bro? I appreciate what y'all are doing, man. I love the content.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:59

Oh man, thank you, man. We appreciate that, man. Thanks for your support.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:03

I just want to say I hope you're trying to go talk to the youngest, man, because the shit y'all talking about is important to bring awareness. You know, you can't you can't bring the the ones that die the ones that died back to to explain, you know, how this shit goes when it goes all the way left, but people that come home even to tell the youngest what's going on is important.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:22

Yeah, I mean, I totally agree, man. Totally agree, man. For sure, man. So thanks for your call, man. Enjoy your night, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:28

Yeah, for sure, y'all too.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:30

So you can you can cheat this mic right here?

SPEAKER_05 1:16:32

No, not that. It's too big. No, you can't cheat that. I would try, like if it was some contraband, if I wrapped it up in that shape of like cigarettes and all types, and it came out in that shape, yeah, it was gonna be underneath the nuts and the butt crack. I'm gonna try and s wiggle past the police with it. Yes, I'm gonna try it.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:50

Your walk game gotta be on.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:51

Yeah, it's not even your legs got to be strong. Your inner fives got to have muscles where you can hold it in place.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:59

Tell the gyms.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:01

What's up? Yo, yo, what's going on? You crazy, bro.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:05

Yo, who we speaking with?

SPEAKER_01 1:17:08

I'm speaking with Reek the barber. I called up before I asked you about your attire around your waist before you told me about that.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:15

Oh, these are these are y'all remember that, yeah. Shout out to you.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:18

Exactly. I got a quick story for you, Black, just to back you up. Look, I was booked down down Georgetown, Delaware. It's like a probation jail, so they strip you out every time. So we had this ball on the block. He had a handicapped hand, right? And he couldn't open it. So instead of niggas cheating it, bro, niggas will put everything in his hand and the guards will not check it.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:41

Exactly. And yeah, you gotta do everything possible.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:45

Anything, anything. But if he wasn't on the block, best believed.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:50

Shit was getting cheaped.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:52

That's believed.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:54

You is not trying to listen, man. Niggas ain't trying to lose the, especially the little, you got a little cellar phone. What you gonna do? Throw that on the floor? You you you you got a little little teeny cellular phone, a smartphone. You get pictures on it in anything. You got 20 more years left. Shake down, shake them, shake them, they coming in, y'all. What you doing with that phone next? You put a jaw rigging over you in the head like it's a loot case. Two case. Nah, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:25

It'll speak your butt vibration. Nah, dude.

SPEAKER_08 1:18:31

I appreciate the call, man.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:34

All right, man. Thank you for the support, man. You too, man.

SPEAKER_08 1:18:36

You already situation, though, man.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:41

So you go like at your height, you can get that dust right there.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:45

No, bro. You keep talking about, I'm done with that, bro. You you talking about the deaths. I'm not putting no dust in my ass. Like, I'm not doing that. There's got to be some contraband. You want to play all the time. No, I'm gonna get a dust right in my come on, man. Let's get serious. For real.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:00

I'm talking about at your top peak. The peak of your game, you can get that, you can get a 72-inch TV if you wanted to. Okay. 215-316-4492, man. We're in the hear y'all call, man. We in the hell y'all call, man. Later by goodbye. I was almost time to break the fast. You know, but yeah, man. So I I I guess, you know, from my understanding, some of the key components or one of the main components in prison is is cheeking it. It's cheeking, you know what I mean, stuff. It's gotta get it.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:35

Well, yeah. Yeah, we being honest, yeah. Especially if you got the sack, you got little fingers of weed and all that type of stuff, and they coming for a shakedown. You ain't trying to flush that, just the money. Even you swallowing that. I know niggas done done took a dookie, got their balloons out of it. Police coming, they swallowed it again. Come on, man, y'all niggas acting crazy. And there's a whole different type of building. Niggas swallowing that without no type of second thought. They coming again, they still like poop. He ain't even rinse all the poop out where the top part is poop all in the edges. Again, I'm gonna shit them out later on. Police won't get this. Wow. I ain't saying it's right, but I ain't saying it's wrong either. That's prison.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:16

Stay free, y'all.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:17

Stay free, please, man. When you ain't got the experience, none of this that we're telling you about.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:21

And we're not glorifying prison at all. 215-316-4492. 215-316-4492. Like, yo, I guess because the rules change in there, man. The rules change. Rules change, man. We'll take a few more calls, man. We here. Y'all want to talk, man. So you know it's just like you know, ban in prison, man. Just like the mind state. You gotta you gotta be something other than who you gotta be somebody other than who you are.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:50

You got the gorilla suit. I'm so happy to take that drawing off, man. Like, I'm so happy, man, not to be, and I still got ways of it because it becomes indoctrinated in you. You gotta live like this day in and day out, Monday through Sunday. Ain't no days off. And you know, I I got a little, like I say, when I be out, you know, going out and I might be with somebody. Like, damn, you like a security guard around me or something like that, but you just super on point.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:16

Tell us in the jails who you speaking with.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:19

You know, we I'm I'm I'm gonna make my shit, you know, uh anonymous, but yeah, well, I was up up the F, right? We had this this this this this ball. Well, I had a cannot and they used to come through and I used to have my family drop it off in the trash. I would take the shit in the jail, but I had uh my man, he had a wooden lead. And he was too long, too long, that's two too long of a cigarette. Like two ounces of weed and and you know, everything, and we'd take it back to ASD. Yeah, I mean this back in '98. Yeah, I mean, we could get like I see y'all, y'all still alive? Yeah, yeah, we still alive, yeah. Yeah, yeah, that you know, uh, yeah, it it was it was sweet like that because they didn't like like main man said, he had the wooden. My man had the wit lady. They didn't want to mess with it. They didn't want to mess with it. And then I'm gonna just say, like, it was a um a gipper that was on the same workforce with us. I would give the shit to the gipper because they did, you know, if I give uh him, and I give some shit to the gipper because uh the the I mean the the CO name was Calm. He was a beast. Like like he like he he he searching every he searching niggas nuts, everything. But he didn't fuck with the punk. And he didn't fuck with my man with uh uh witness. I ain't gonna say no name. I ain't gonna say my name because he's gonna know who I'm talking about. Like I'ma just saying Several Montgomery. Yeah, there's Sever Montgomery. I'ma just yeah, he's just say that. But you know, uh you know, that that that's how that should go up, and especially in the county. Especially in the county. Yeah, I mean, we I got away with all I I got away with it for a whole year. When they rated myself, I was selling the weed. The weed was so good that I was getting, I was selling them to the white people. I was selling them and they was smoking that shit, they were screaming fall out. I had so much cosmetics. They had to get my shit sent home. So they made me look, I had like nine bags of cosmetics, soup, everything. They had to get my shit sent home because when they raided myself, you know, I they never found nothing. They never found nothing. But uh when they raided. Yes, sir, yes sir, yes sir. And this was but I was at I was you gotta think though, I was in ASD.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:58

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:59

I was in ASD, but it's still it yeah, I mean I went from C CFC up to ASD because I got uh classified for an outside job.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:08

Okay. Well listen, man, thanks for calling classified. We gotta let you go, man. We had a time limit, but thanks for calling in. I appreciate your story, bro. You got it. Enjoy your night, man. You got it. Yeah, man. Might take a few more calls, 215-316-4492, 215-316-4492. They're gonna make a dance off of that that uh that walk you did with the cheek and things.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:31

Why would they? I'm not dancing off no stuff like that.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:33

They gonna they're supposed to come up with a dance call.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:36

If they do, they out their minds.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:37

They're gonna call the cheek it.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:40

Just cheek it. Don't, don't, don't, don't drop it, cheek it. Huh?

SPEAKER_04 1:24:44

So let me ask you a question. What happened when you're walking and you got you guys?

SPEAKER_05 1:24:46

No, bro. That's it. That's it with that. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:49

This is a serious question, man.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:50

Nah, I'm not keep getting on that, bro. You think it's a game until you take your ass to jail and then your whole suitcase be loaded. I'm like, what's up with that shit? But I got it in my cheeks. Then you'll be seeing the serverity of it.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:01

Say you walking, right? And whatever you got cheek, you you might miss a step or something.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:05

It's a fall out. You pick it up, and if the police taste, put him back in there firmly. What are you talking about? You acting crazy. Like, what would you think? What would you do? You gonna keep it? You gonna keep walking? The whole thing is to make it the way you got to go with this. By all means necessary.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:21

So you you're drop something before you, or you No, I ain't never dropped nothing before.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:24

I ain't no.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:26

You got something. You you got you got you got uh sealed uh sealed tight line.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:30

Oh man. Call in y'all for this man just he's I don't know what's wrong with him today.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:34

Yeah, this guy's crazy, man. I want to thank everybody who's been tuning in, man. We really appreciate y'all, man. Without y'all's support, we could not do this show, man. This show is not um scripted, it's not um pre-corded, or it's not it's just us just speaking up here, man. So we thank y'all for supporting us, man. And um, this guy's crazy over here to my left. And um this is uh uh I'll take the guy call coming up. Tell us from the jail.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:04

Okay, look. Tell us in the jail, sweet speaker. Oh, from Delaware.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:09

What's up, L? How you doing? Make you turn the TV down a little bit for me. What have you got turned down a little bit for me?

SPEAKER_01 1:26:14

Thanks, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:16

You pick it up and have to call me pretty speaking.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:18

Yeah, man. I was just calling in, man. I appreciate what y'all are doing too, man. You know, I just wanted to give my little uh shout out to y'all. But look at I got a little quick little story to tell y'all about I'm I'm from Delaware, right? I I was sentenced to five years for trying to get cocaine. The same day I was sentenced to five years, I was released. I was released by mistake. I told every CEO, every lieutenant, everybody before they released me. Like, yo, y'all making a mistake. You will not believe these these jokers. I stayed home three whole years. They came back and got me. Came back, got me, rearrested me, took me back in front of the judge. Judge retent me to the five years, but sent me home on probation because I was home working on a trash truck and I was doing good.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:13

Yeah, you got them right. That wasn't your fault. You ain't escaped. And you told everybody, all the problems, like, yo, I ain't, I just got a nickel. They like, man, you got released. All right, cool.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:23

And what to make a long story short, what happened was I went to two court hearings that morning. I went to a court of common plea for a fine, which the judge had gave me unsecured bail for. Two o'clock in the afternoon, I was sentenced to five years. I took a plea for violation of probation and traffic in cocaine. The traffic cocaine was three years mandatory. Okay. I took that plea. Went back to prison that same day, and it's crazy because this happened during Ramadan. Offer McGregor, they called cold green, they let us out to sell. They called me back and back, released me that night, came back, got me three years later.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:04

Three years later.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:06

And reason why, and only reason how they found out that they released me by mistake was that uh a lot of people that know me, they uh the records department from Delaware had moved down to Central Delaware, which is Dover. When they re-ran all the inmates numbers, my number came up as a sentence inmate, but I wasn't incarcerated.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:30

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:32

I'm sorry, man. That was I mean, it was it was the craziest three years because the whole time, bro. I kept thinking they was coming to get me, coming to get me. But I got comfortable after a few months because I'm like, I ain't see nothing in the newspaper, I ain't heard nothing on the news. I got got a job, me and my wife out of this other house. I was just living, doing my thing. But I I made out because I didn't get in trouble and I went back in front of the judge and they gave me probation.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:56

Well, that's a hell of a story, man. Thanks for calling in and sharing that story, man. That's amazing, man. You enjoy your night, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:01

Yeah, man. I'm watching y'all though. Appreciate it. And I follow y'all on TikTok. And if y'all came there, watch me on TikTok. I'm love for some low.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:10

All right, man. Appreciate that, bro. Appreciate it. Yeah, man. Um, listen, y'all. Thank everybody for tuning in, man. Uh Tell us when Gels is uh brought to you by TNS Media Group. Uh, we shoot at Power Rooms USA. You know, don't forget to uh continue to watch us, check out all our content on all platforms. Follow us on Instagram, TikTok, YouTube. Um, you know, we we're everywhere. Uh um iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts. You listen to us there as well. Uh, once again, we couldn't do it without Allah Spend with Allah first, and then y'all support. We thank y'all for supporting us. Anything you want to say before we go?

SPEAKER_05 1:29:46

Um stay free, man. Stay free, man. It's it's not hard, man. I used to think it was hard, but uh when you apply yourself, man, and you see the reward off your effort of working. And it ain't even worth it, man. It ain't worth it to be in that joint, bro. That joint is crazy, man. Stay free, man.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:06

Stay free, stay safe, man, stay focused.