RESPECT THE INMATES : TALES FROM THE JAILS LIVE !!!

The host breakdown the importance of respecting the inmates. The prison is ran by the inmates so its very important for guards to have a sense of respect for the inmates.

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SPEAKER_04 7:54

And once again, man, once again, let's make it clear. Nobody's up here glorifying prison at all. We're not glorifying prison at all. Prison is no place you want to be. It's no five-star hotel. It's no uh uh place where you can you can flourish and you have uh many opportunities. No, uh it's it's oppression. So for anybody who was out there thinking, hey, tell us Majels is up there glorifying prison. No, we're talking about prison. Sometimes it might be funny, sometimes it might make you laugh, sometimes it might make you cry, but it's all designed for us to give you real life stories, real life scenarios, and not glorify prison at all, man. So I just want to make that clear, man, once again, man.

SPEAKER_05 8:36

What's up, family? What's up, family? We here it's beautiful Friday. Hum to be lad to the Muslims, you know what I'm saying? And a blessed Friday to anybody that's not Muslim. Man, we here, man. I feel a little energized. I was kind of tired early. I was at work, got a client there, and you know, I gotta rustle him down because he likes to grab uh buttocks, whether it be the female part or the male counterpart. He ain't tripping, long as buttocks. But yeah, I'm here with y'all today, man. What's up, man? Talk to us, man. Like, what's good this beautiful Friday? Again, like my brother just said, we're not, you know, bigging up jail. We're not making it seem like jail is a place to be. No, what we're doing is at an alarming rate, is bringing y'all truths from inside them walls, man. Nonstop truths. Some may sound funny, some may sound sad, some may make you angry, but at the end of it all, is a fact and it's going down.

SPEAKER_04 9:28

Yeah, man. So, man, you know, prison, once again, uh, you know, the podcast is tells from the jails. Uh, you know, everybody, you know, has been speaking about us throughout the prisons, especially here in Pennsylvania. A lot of the guys is calling home and talking about, yo, we still have Tells from the Gels, and uh, you know, a lot of people want to come on the podcast. Um, how do you feel about that? Like the the the the uh the word is getting out, the awareness is being spread that we are you know providing outlet for people to speak about their hardships and their oppressions of prison.

SPEAKER_05 9:59

Um, what you tell me? You told me you, you, nobody else. Because I get frustrated with it. We've been doing this, what, 11, 11 and a half months, damn near a year, right?

SPEAKER_04 10:10

No, about 10 months now. 10 months now? Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 10:13

And I'm I've you seen me days get frustrated. Man, I ain't keep trying. You know what I mean? And what you tell me? The curve, man. Once you see that curve, and that curve is what you was just expressing. You know, the notoriety, the people is getting on the bandwagon, people is supporting us at an alarming rate. People feel that what we're saying is the truth.

SPEAKER_04 10:32

Thank you. Thank you.

SPEAKER_05 10:33

We ain't up here, huh?

SPEAKER_04 10:34

I'm saying thank you for everybody who's on that. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_05 10:36

Yeah, I'm talking about, I'm talking about the people. Yeah, for sure. You know, and it's that's the curve. The money ain't the curve. The curve, the people uh get you to the money. The people is the curve. The people is yo, y'all up here with a great message, and we we're sitting attentive and we're listening and we're learning. And by me seeing that, that's me seeing all the members go up. Thank you. Shout out to the members, shout out to the subscribers, shout out to the people that just look. Because by you looking, you may be interested in something that you see and become a member or a subscriber. Um, man, I feel good about that, man. I feel real good, man. Charged up. Like I said, I was a little tired, man. Got off work today. I was a little, yeah, I mean, and the closer I got to the studio, I was getting a little upbeat. You know what I mean? Yeah, man. I'm like, oh, I gotta get in there, man, and see what's going on. You know what I'm saying? And I I gotta remember, I ain't in jail. I'm thinking about cheeking the phone or something like that. Oh, I gotta make sure I keep the phone, but I'm like, I ain't in jail no more. I'm out here in the free world, man. I'm cool, man. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_04 11:37

And so did your client, he he he grabbed, he grabbed backsides, right?

SPEAKER_05 11:40

Yes, yes, he had an alarming rate.

SPEAKER_04 11:41

Did he ever grab yours?

SPEAKER_05 11:42

Yes, twice.

SPEAKER_04 11:43

Oh, wow. Yes. How do you feel about that? Um violated?

SPEAKER_05 11:46

I didn't feel violated because he's an older man, 71. He's uh he had he's an ID patient, he's an intellectual disability patient where his mind is gone. Um the first time he grabbed it, and it was a little too firm. And I'm like, I slapped his hand on wham. Turn around and I lectured him like I wanted to slap him. And he's sitting there laughing in my face. Ha ha ha, I got you. And I'm like, yo, I'm like, yo, you don't be doing that, man. I got to wrestle you there. You don't grab no man behind. But he's an older man, he's out of his mind. He he already, you know, mentally, you know, I ain't gonna say disturbed, but mentally challenged. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? And I had to take that in. So when the second time he did it, it was like a couple weeks after the first. I'm like, I just was like, yo, man, come on, man. I I used a different approach, and that's me growing. Because I wanted to knock him out the first time. Okay, and it would have been like a flawless victory. I could have got any shot I wanted to, or anything I wanted to get. Yeah, but what was I gonna gain at the day? Uh going straight to jail, straight from the job, straight to jail.

SPEAKER_04 12:46

That that made that boy like flashbacks and you been in jail, man.

SPEAKER_05 12:49

No, no, that ain't bring no flashbacks because I never had my my rump grabbed in jail, so that didn't bring no flashback. No, not at all. No, no, so I'm not agreeing with none of that. Okay, talking about it brought back flashbacks.

SPEAKER_04 13:00

No, okay, it did not. I'll just make it sure. But yeah, you know, uh let's um let's let's really sit back and let's dive into this whole um, you know, the the the word of mouth for prison. Like, cause you because you notice like a lot of times in prison, sometimes the word something happens on the street and it's spread throughout the prisons faster than it's actually spread on the street.

SPEAKER_05 13:23

The prisoner knows about an incident, a whole incident, whether it be a murder, a robbery, uh a chick getting hit, uh before other people know about it on the street. You know what I'm saying? Ain't that crazy? Yeah, it's like how did they they in here? These men is subjected to be in a building all day long. They're not even in the neighborhoods or nothing. You know, they get little phone calls. Even if you got a cell phone, you're still not relevant and present. How do you know this information that took place? I'm all the way up in prison of Phoenix, MCI Phoenix in the state. Or I'm in federal prison. I'm in California. Something took place 38th Street, West Philadelphia, and I know every uh everything about that incident. I done been up there the last 10 years, the incident took place last week. How the hell do I know that? Yeah, but for some reason it seemed like the streets, because we so much have got no got time on our hands that we constantly call every day. Like I done said there, you get 500 minutes a month at the time when I just went back for my violation, but usually it'd be 300 minutes a month. So I went back for my violation, it's 500 minutes a month. And um, you gotta you get on the phone. After you hang up from a phone call, you can't get back on to 45 minutes later. Um throughout a day, I might burn, I might burn about two hours, two, three hours worth of worth of minutes. In an hour is 60 minutes. You're only getting 500 minutes a month. So, and then that's just me being newsy. What's up, man? What's going on? As soon as you answer the phone, what's up, 12 feet? What you doing out there, man? What you got on today? What kind of shoes you got on? Oh, yeah. Oh, they got them jackets now. Oh, you might tell me, oh, you going down there? Oh, I used to mess with the chick down there. Oh, they still be out there. This is how it, this is how you get information. And then I might ask you that and call somebody else 15 minutes later, and they give me another piece to the story that you was telling me. Yeah, and then I might call somebody else later on after them and get another piece. Now I got the whole story, and neither one of y'all gave me the whole story, but I just used three, four people. And that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_04 15:20

And now you're going back to the block and you're telling the guys, everybody sitting around you, and then they calling home, and then they finding out more.

SPEAKER_05 15:27

They coming back like, yo, you ain't know this black. What man before they did the shooting? The girl told them what they was at for real. I'm getting on the phone call somebody else. Yeah, yo, what's up with that girl? They talking about who was like, Oh, yeah, you know about that. Yeah, bro. We we better than the police. If you want to be technical, and I know we ain't on no hot stuff, meaning telling, but we find out the information better than the police do. Yeah, convicts in the jail. But that's how it goes man. Word of mouth, man, spread faster than anything on except a bullet. But word of mouth on the jail is way faster than on the street.

SPEAKER_04 16:00

Shout out to Sharif Ibn Yaqub, alhamdulillah. I appreciate you, man, for the uh donation, man. Uh, and I thank you, May Allah award you as well. Avahum at me.

SPEAKER_05 16:10

James the flame, shout out. You say I'm up here looking fresh.

SPEAKER_04 16:12

Where you been at, James? Man, I ain't seen James in there in a minute, man.

SPEAKER_05 16:15

Tell us some James Black up there looking fresh.

SPEAKER_04 16:19

Where'd you at? Was you locked up or something, man? You know, he must have been he must have been on a little hi-80s vacation. He ain't taking it.

SPEAKER_05 16:24

James ain't go to jail. He ain't go to I know he ain't was inside no cell. All this information we get you up giving you up here, you better not been locked up, James. You be the next guest at our Norman rate.

SPEAKER_04 16:35

Yeah, shout out to everybody in the in the chat, man. John Michael, everybody, man. Jennifer Hodge. You know, you know, glamify, D thing. I mean, nice GBM. I mean, the whole gang. I see it. 716 Deuce.

SPEAKER_03 16:51

Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_04 16:51

King Kwan. You know, Terrell Walker.

SPEAKER_05 16:55

And then for another thing, too, Tor Feek, man, because you know Big Shaq, 066. Yo, that's that's the big homie. Big Shaq stand up, man. Represent North Philly stand up with the North with the P. You know what I'm saying? Um, but I wanted to say to you, Feek, I think that the show moves you too, which I know because you know, you you're going through a little something right now, a little, you know, not not, you know, just you know, life, everyday life problems. And you know, before the show started, just now, you know, me and you was having our little sidebar of air and all that, and you know, and I'm telling you how, you know, as I say, how your face look or whatever, whatever, but you carry it well. And as soon as we get on air, it's like this joint just brought some life to you. It pumped you like, you know, how you was on the ground. I was doing this before the the air came on. As soon as we went came on, it was you was like, yo, slap my hands, go on me. I'm up. I'm like, well, goddamn, we'll take a seat, then put your headphones on. You know what I'm saying? So this is definitely, you know, touching you too, man.

SPEAKER_04 17:47

Yeah, you know, uh the realm uh me ja, hopefully I'm saying that right, shout out to you too as well, man. Um, you know, but once again, now though those stories that that come from outside on the streets, all that news that comes from outside from the streets. It what is it what does it do for the prison? Does it keep the prison the blocks pumping that keeps you know it keeps everybody motivated? Or what does it do when they hear about news from outside? How's that?

SPEAKER_05 18:12

It don't keep the block pumping or motivated, it just feeds your boardism. Oh, yeah. That's all it does. It feeds your boardism. If that make if boredism is a word, you know, I'll be up here making up my own words and everything. But the fans get what I'm saying. Everybody, all my all my all the audience, all the all our family, y'all get what I'm saying. Um, you be bored in there. That's why you constantly on the phone trying to get tippers. That's why you get to the bottom of a case before the police do. So it feeds the boredom, it feeds it. It stops me from being bored. Yeah, but maybe I'm using that wrong. It don't feed border because if I'm saying I'm feeding borderm, that means I'm still bored. No, it erases the border. That's what that's there. We go. Now we could now I'm cooking with grease, y'all.

SPEAKER_04 18:56

James said you was going through some stuff, man. We all going through some stuff, man. I found that somebody's a dirty dog, man. So I'm just dealing with that, man. You know, and uh, you know, what we're here for you, bro. We need each other. Everybody in this chat, we need each other, man. Uh, you know, like this is therapy for everybody. We about to have a a crying session.

SPEAKER_05 19:12

Yeah, well, not me. I'm good, man. I'm yeah, man. I'm yeah, I'm I'm I'm sitting in the seat you used to sit in and tell me about it. I'm now over here, you know. I got your hand, man. No home. I'm gonna go ahead and use this during pause. I'm stroking your hands gonna be good. Not on duty, not on duty. It's like Jeopardy. You know, who is the quiving of such and such 1996? Not on duty. Come on, man, would you quit it, man? This man is crazy, man.

SPEAKER_04 19:42

Yeah, but you know, like, so, and then a lot of times, right? You know, um, when when a person calls home, they need to hear. I mean, people don't want to hear negative news, but they want to hear something, some type of news that's that's going on out there. They want to hear, they want to hear you tell them something.

SPEAKER_05 19:57

They wouldn't mind hearing that negative either. They want to be a part of it. Meaning, like, they want to give out some advice. Like in there, we think we therapists and everything. Like we want to be, you mean especially if it's a girl. You the bit because negative news could be, damn, man, the rent coming up, man. They 1400, man. I got 200. I'm like, damn, what you just got paid. You mean a long way to go, but go ahead. You know what I'm saying? But that that's that's negative news. But now he he called that's a nigga like me get told that I'm calling you to I need a deuce. Or I'm about to send it to your books. No, go ahead and cash up it to such and such, you're gonna send it to me. You know, we use all types of schemes and all that to get it, and then she be like, yeah, uh, Tolfik's in the deuce. All right, cool. I got somebody else online. We want to be the hero, like, because if we can go ahead and make that happen from jail, you know that the eye sights you be looked at, then she just had$1,200. She just had$200 on a$1,400 rent, and you get that to her, you in jail. Don't get me wrong, she's still gonna go out there and get them yeeks up, but her heart belongs to you. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? So it just be just wanting to be a part of something, man. Whether it be bad, good, you know, more so bad because you want to help out if you can. Because the good, you could you just like, damn. All right, I ain't dare to be a part of none of this, you know what I mean. But you still want to hear what's going on. Like, yeah, y'all did that. Oh, yeah. We just flew from such and such and such and such, and we was right there. We was having like, yeah, and I'm feeling good because I'm hearing about what's going on, but I want to be a part of it. But if you have a problem, and if I got me a little braid or something like that, I could be a part, I could help out in this problem. You understand what I'm saying? You get it?

SPEAKER_04 21:22

I get it, yeah. You mean, but ultimately sometimes that bad news you don't want to hear because it can be somebody, oh, you know, they just killed your brother.

SPEAKER_05 21:29

Or I just came up off that chumpy.

SPEAKER_04 21:32

What not on duty?

SPEAKER_05 21:33

I'm talking about the female. You're talking about not on duty. You got you got the not on duty anything. What are you talking about? Or the female talking about, yeah, I just yummy. Yeah, what you mean, but chumpy you just come off at the junk. Oh my goodness gracious. All right, that yeah, I ain't trying to hear that news.

SPEAKER_04 21:46

Yeah, that's bad, bad news.

SPEAKER_05 21:48

That's that's that's horrible. That's nightmare news. But that's bad, bad news.

SPEAKER_04 21:54

Yeah, that's crazy. Do you want to tell me that like that? But the the thing about it is too like like the bad news. Um it's probably more difficult to deal with because you're already dealing with the oppression of being incarcerated. You get more stuff on top of your mental.

SPEAKER_05 22:08

It'll stress you out more.

SPEAKER_04 22:10

It's like you and you and you in a cell, like you can't do nothing about it.

SPEAKER_05 22:13

Especially if you can't do nothing about it.

SPEAKER_04 22:15

You can't even leave the block. Can't leave it. Damn, she ain't leaving the jail.

SPEAKER_05 22:18

You can't even call right back. That 15 minutes seem like four minutes when it's a problem. When it's a problem and you're dealing with an issue on the phone, that 15 minutes literally feel like four minutes. And then when it hangs up, you can't get back on that joint to a whole nother hour. So then by the time you get back, it's a whole nother conversation there. She might have been forgetting what she told you. The whole train of thought is off. It's a 45-minute gap lapse. Now you're trying to get no because remember you just said that. She like, I said that. Like the whole conversation gets miscuscrewed now.

SPEAKER_04 22:50

If she answered.

SPEAKER_05 22:52

If she answered, yeah, exactly. Exactly. How about that? Or him. If they're going through problems like every time a person will pick up that joint and see a jail call and they're dealing with issues out here in this world, not right now. Not right now. Because basically, what can you do, us being convicts and men in jail, when you go to jail, what can you really do for one that's in need on the street? If you ain't in jail and you Dirk or one of Puff Daddy or R. Kelly, I'm quite sure these dudes still got some uh fine uh financial aid, meaning they got some five some funds. And if they chose to help out somebody on the street, uh they can. Like I think a dirt just sent his girl$100,000. Oh, no, no, no. What it was was 50 Cent just cash dabbed her$100,000 to help with the legal fees and the kids and stuff like that, whatever. But yeah, I said there and 50 cents. I saluted 50 Cent for the feet. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah, for little dirt. Yeah, he just uh he cash dabbed her$100,000.

SPEAKER_04 23:47

Shout out to 50 Cent for that because at the end of the day, I mean, I I know 50 always be a lot of controversy. Yeah. But I hear a lot of good stuff that 50 Cent do. Right. Like he like, I know he I guess he gotta be a controversy to kind of be, you know, keep it controversy itself. Keep itself relevant or whatever the case may be. But if you look at the body of work and things that he's doing that he's done for people, that's just like a crazy gesture, huh? He'll go 100,000. And then you hear about you know him going up to the prison to see you hear you heard um uh BD Siegel say that on the on the one of the Tell us and Joe's episode, he said that uh uh Fitty was kind of there pulling, Fitty was coming to see his homie up there in the um in the in the f in the feds. Yeah. Fitty kind of there. Then you heard about Fiddy going to see different people putting money. You heard that uh Fetty Watch say that 50 Cent helped him out the whole time he was in there. You hear uh, you know, uh Yeo speak about when he was in jail, he came home, 50 Cent gave him a million dollars or something like that, gave him the type of money where he was cool and had already saved the money up for him when he got out. You just hear a lot of good things, but 50 is you know, shout out to 50 Cent, man. He said you could tell he from he from the hood, yeah in the street. You know what I mean? So and I would probably be doing the same thing.

SPEAKER_05 24:57

You do do the same thing, ain't no problem about it.

SPEAKER_04 24:59

But yeah, I'm just saying, like if I if I was like do a little dirk like that, you know. I do know his dad, but that would be, I mean, that's that's that's what's up, man, that uh have somebody that that send you something that really never really seen dirt and 50 Cent really moving around like that. Exactly. So family. Is that he just on main time? Yeah, shout out to 50 Cent, man, for that. Um now outside of that, now when you when you when you in jail and you get somebody who sends you a check, like somebody you don't even know, somebody you not even expect to send you a check. Um when you get out and you may see that person, what's your what's your thought process like that?

SPEAKER_05 25:32

Oh man, that that that person right there, man. Do you know like when you got dudes in there and you struggling, or you know, when you in there, period, you ain't even got to be struggling. You just can't do nothing for yourself. You know, every everything is a weight game of wait, wait, wait, wait to eat child, wait to get in the shower, wait to lock in your cell, wait to get your mail. Everything is waiting there. Your patience will build to the to the moon. And when you have somebody come, man, that don't, especially people who come that be aid to you, that don't know you or know a little bit about you, and they come and they're being aid like 50, like you say, I never seen 50 cent in dirt moving around. This man just contacted his woman and sent her$100,000, man. That's like dirt, and I'm quite sure Dirt got$100,000 to send to her herself.

SPEAKER_04 26:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 26:16

But for that to be coming from a man and then a man that you ain't fully, yeah, I mean, in in with the old mob saying in bed with meaning, you know, y'all doing business or anything like that of that nature together, it's like, damn, wow. Now a love starts to bubble up in your chest. It's a feeling, it's a feeling, it's a it's a love. For you to remember it, you got to get that feeling first. Because I can't remember nothing that I ain't feel.

SPEAKER_06 26:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 26:42

If I ain't feeling, I ain't I ain't thinking about it tomorrow. That feeling I get, that that that the butterfly, like, damn, he did that, you be thinking about that for two, three months. Like, dang, that was dang.

SPEAKER_06 26:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 26:52

For a year, two, three, four years. I'm talking about months. What? You up that joint, like, yeah. You know what I'm saying? So when you have these type of people, man, getting your corner, man, like, like how you just sent. I mean, Hurst, a couple dollars in jail, man. He was recently on this show that we had, man. You know, hopefully he, you know, figure things out, man, could come to terms with himself. Because, you know, he he still a little from the conversation, he like, damn, man, and this and that, and this and that, friends left me and all that, whatever, whatever. But, you know, and what he asked you for, I'm not gonna put it all out there, but you, you know, you gave him more than that. And what I tell you, I said, damn, bro, you don't even know that man. Like, and I'm quite sure that when you sent it, he sent the message back to you, like, man, thank you, man. Like, bro, like that go a long way, man. A dude asking you for uh in jail, you got dudes asking, man, yo, can I get a dub on my books, man, real fast? I want to get some soap and all that. Turn around, you done sent him a deuce. Bro, that deuce, I had that dude to buy you the rest of your life as a soldier. And I'm not saying it like he's a fronky or anything. It's just that his heart and his honor toward you be like, man, this dude, he came to me when I was down underneath the ground and pulled me through that dirt. Like, that's a different type of feeling. I don't know if a lot of men felt that feeling. And if you haven't, you can't understand what I'm saying to y'all up here. When you got a person that comes to you, especially a person that don't even really know you, and you got your hat in your hand and hat in hand, meaning you coming humbly as you can come because you have no pride now. You're on your face. So when you got your hat in your hand and you coming to a female or a man and you got a request and you need it, you really, really need it, and that person see that and do it. Oh my eyes. Yeah. Oh my eyes, man. Like, yeah, I can't even say you felt that feeling before, bro. I don't think you ever been in a position to feel that feeling. Like, you can't possibly tell me you know what that feels like.

SPEAKER_04 28:36

You know what I'm saying? Somebody to pull you through, which you mean, send you something and pull you through something.

SPEAKER_05 28:39

Yeah, when you're going through a crazy time and trial, and you a person like you was right there, like, man, you know what? I'm gonna go ahead and help you out with this and this and that, this and that.

SPEAKER_04 28:50

I mean, I see. Not financially, because I I I've been going through things as of late, and then like people like you answering the phone uh for me, just answer my my my father, um, my mother. Yeah, but then other friends that I know, you know, shout out to my guy down there in Michigan, Detroit, you know, then he got my guys in. I don't want to say too many names, but uh I got people that answer the phone for me. And that that's way worth more than money. Yeah, you know what I mean? I don't really I ain't really um I don't really need I don't want to say it like I like that, but I don't I don't I don't I I'm not looking for money, I should say. I don't know. But that can be a remedy for people that may need it, because whatever it's I might need it, I might need money. So if somebody getting money when I need it, they give it to you, but sometimes you just need an ear, or somebody to listen, somebody to help you get through the pain or the or the turbulence that you're going through, so it helps you. It helps you, you know what I mean? But let's go back a little bit. Now we'll go the flip side. I know I was speaking about uh 50 Cent now. Somebody like Puffy. Puffy, 50 Cent was doing a lot of stuff in the in the media to him.

SPEAKER_05 29:54

Yeah, they beefing.

SPEAKER_04 29:55

So when he comes home, but these are like juggernauts, I would say, like the big time typhoons who like beefing about at the at the top. Because we get to a certain level where people they don't beef about money, they they beef more about women and because they we all got money, so people is beefing about more so about women and things of that nature. But that relationship right there might might come to a uh I don't use the word, it's come to a you know uh a point where as though they may want to say some things about each other when when they get out and they may have beef when they see or it might not be that.

SPEAKER_05 30:28

Yeah, it might not be that. What's the beef is about? Is we gonna kill each other? Yeah, anybody going through that.

SPEAKER_04 30:35

And now I'm actually this though. When you when when you when you in jail, right? When you're in prison and you hear like somebody say something bad about you, like yeah, or like a rumor arise, like on the street or in a jail. While you in jail and the people on the street saying you.

SPEAKER_05 30:46

Oh, yeah, you can't do nothing about it. You gotta let it go. You're gonna get mad. No, black told, like what? Oh, yeah, and if a rumor like that came out, yeah. See, don't know rumors, yeah. I mean, I'm not saying it don't, but nine times out of ten of a dude get bro. I've been in jail 21 years straight and did about eight, nine years besides that, the 21 years. I never in my life once, not one man has never in their life said black is a rat and black is a homosexual. Plain, serious, by accident, none of that. Now the dudes that get these type of accusations, man. I this is just my opinion. I could be wrong. I like to believe it's some somewhat true. Because you you just don't get pegged as a hot nigga and then nigga got the it happened. That has happened. But it's so far through the dude saying that about somebody, it's somewhere along the lines true. You just don't pick a nigga and yeah, he's hot or he he done had relations with a man. No.

SPEAKER_04 31:43

Yeah, that's just something that yeah, that's that's that if somebody said it about you, you can't.

SPEAKER_05 31:48

That's like that's why it's so heavy in the prisons, the way though, you can get seriously hurt about accusing a man of something that he didn't do. That man got to hurt you if he didn't do that. If I come to a jail without no paperwork and I'm saying you told and you really didn't tell, and you don't do nothing to me, everybody in there is gonna be like, yeah, he told. Yeah, you're right.

SPEAKER_04 32:09

It might because now it looks like because that's that's a serious accusation. Oh, oh my goodness. That's the top accusation. Shout out to Dot. But you know, the thing is, when you get these type of situations uh going on when people were saying these things, that's why the jail, even the jail attorney gets you a view if you tell somebody hot and they and they um and they not, right? People, other people will be like, yo, but what being. Yeah, yeah, minute stepping to you. Produce that paperwork.

SPEAKER_05 32:31

Yes. Yes, where the paperwork at. But now that's just with him, the one that's saying that he told. But now niggas is going to him like, well, dude saying that you told, and he's trying to get the paperwork and all that, but you sitting over here like, man, you ain't tell. You ain't you ain't trying to bust his head open. He over there, like, man, I ain't listening to what he's saying. Oh yeah, I got right to believe you. I got right to believe mang man then. You just can't get that placed on you, and you just like, oh man, they don't know me. Niz all. Niz all. Yeah, Niz all. And under no circumstances, you got to stand on business now. A nigga wanted to play with your name, then you play with his face.

SPEAKER_04 33:10

Wow. Wow. And it's like in these places, in jail, it's just it's so it's already just waiting for something bad to happen. It's always just waiting for something just to. That'd be the highlight of the day. Yeah, like the jail is not, it's not, you know, it's not to a point where it's though it needs to be like calm. It needs action in there sometimes. It needs something to happen. It needs it need for people to argue, fight, or go through something.

SPEAKER_05 33:37

That that that that that breaks up the uh the continuity of the day, if I'm saying that word right. Yeah, I probably say the wrong word.

SPEAKER_04 33:43

Continuity?

SPEAKER_05 33:44

Yeah, continuity. Okay. It breaks up the you know, the regular us sitting there watching TV or cooking a bowl of soup. And I'm cooking a bowl of soup, see somebody getting rumbling in the corner. I'm like, oh, I done forgot about the soup. Oh, he getting him. Is that you know what I mean? Because it's just barely no, you know what I mean? We in here all day long. So I wouldn't mind seeing somebody get knocked out or police getting knocked out, police running on the block tackle with him. That's probably the most excitement I've seen in six months. So people really be hitting the cops in there? Yeah, police get it too. You talking about the people be hitting the cops in there. The cops be sucker punching dudes. Yeah, you're talking about the people really be hitting the cops in there. Yes, they do.

SPEAKER_04 34:23

So, what I mean, what would lead to what would lead to somebody hitting, actually putting their hands on a guard?

SPEAKER_05 34:29

Because you have you have guards that overdo their job, meaning they're they're they're they're zealous in what they want, what they say to you, how they approach you. They're very disrespectful. The same way the inmates show each other utmost respect, you got guards that show the utmost respect. You got guards that tell you, man, I'm just trying to do my eight, man, get some, get paid, and take care of my family, man. Y'all got to live here. So why am I coming here and doing more than what I'm asked to do as a job? You got some people, you know, they they come in there and they just overzealous, man. They coming in there, they new boots, they coming in, they trying to make a name for themselves. They trying to find all the knives they want to be known, oh yeah, that's that's uh CO Charles. He finds, eight comes, he comes on a unit, he finds four or five knives. But as the years go on, his first year, second year, third year, fourth year, tenth, he gets to his tenth, they be the cops that calm down and be like, oh yeah, this ain't. I'm gonna go ahead and do my eight hours and get on out. Because he done probably been beat up four or five times throughout that 10 years. You know what I'm saying? It's a lot of them that don't come in on a, I'm gonna just, you know, as long as y'all don't draw on me, I won't draw on y'all. Yeah. And you gotta respect that. He got a job to do, or she got a job to do. But when you come in there and you're supposed to be just shaking down, I go in there, I got my caan on the floor or my Bible if I'm Christian on the floor underneath the bed. I know I ain't just throw that on the floor under the bed before I lift out the cell. You coming in, it's juice, like they opening up your stuff because they shaking down your celly opening, but they spilling out bags that are just all on my celly bed on my bed. Coming back out, like, yo, why you leave my cell like that? He like, man, go up there and pack up. I'm smacking, bam. Like, no, nigga, you ain't even say, damn, man, we had to shake that. Cause I got to live here, bro. I got to live here. Police is getting their issues. So if y'all thinking about going to BCOs, make sure y'all go in there with the right mainframe, with the right mind frame that these people are human beings. Yeah, you know, they try to classify you as an inmate. They use that word to break you down. Like that's why I like to say convicts. Like, no, I'm a convicted felon. And I ain't bragging about this. But when I was in there, I like to go by the term convict, not inmate. Inmate, they use that to make you feel inmate, go stand over there. Now, you know my last name, Jackson. You talk about inmate, go up the steps. You inmates get out of like that's like a word, like a derogatory word, like inmate. That's like nigger. You know what I'm saying? It's like a race, a racial slur, a derogatory slur, inmate. Like it's like the lowest of the human race, inmate. So, you know, police get it too, man. They got to come in there with their head on right and know how to think because they might not make it home.

SPEAKER_04 36:58

Shout out to uh Jerry Morrow 507, who uh who just became a member. We appreciate you, man, for the support. Thank you so much, man. Means a lot, man.

SPEAKER_05 37:08

Yeah, like like we was just talking about, like uh, what's the name? Just oh thank thank you for uh Dark Skin Beauty. Dark Skin Beauty just brought up just now. Like, I don't know if you've seen it, I sent it to you, but that sent it to us too. I'm gonna the guard, the female guard, she's sitting there trying to talk and disrespecting him and this and that. He like, listen, I don't want no, and he let her know all it's like, listen, just go get me a lieutenant or a sergeant. No, you're gonna go in there and especially for the women, it'd be more so of the women getting out of pocket than the men. And I don't know what the reasons is, and I'm not saying that like this, but I don't know if they're coming in because they they hate men, because they've gone through terrible things with men out there in the real world, and a lot of women went through that. Dudes dogging them, playing around with them, and you know, leaving them out there to the wolves and they get another one, and he worse than the last one he had. So they're coming here with this, and I'm not trying to make it like all women is just crazy. No, I'm not saying that. But majority of the conflict comes from women. Like this, what I'm telling him about, what he knows about, we're telling y'all about right now. There was an incident, and I forgot what I'm gonna go back and pull it up at a later time and bring it back to y'all again. But there was an incident in the prison, I think it was Damn South.

SPEAKER_03 38:11

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_05 38:12

And it was a female, two female guards talking to a male inmate and telling him, but he's, you know, he's not, he's not belligerent, he's not irate or nothing like that. Like he's talking to them calmly. Listen, man, can y'all go get me a lieutenant? Can y'all go get me a sergeant? You came in here, you woke me up. He was tripping. He said, Y'all was in my cell earlier, then you woke me up. It's like you're playing games where you woke me up, told me to get out of the cell where y'all can shake my. I need to see a lieutenant and tell him about how y'all. I'm not getting no lieutenant. You go in your cell. He like, what? Hey, man, yeah, I mean it was, and I'm not saying he was right for what he did. He wasn't right you beating on a woman and stuff like that. But respect, man, is due to a dog, man. When you're in there, the rules change. I'm not looking at you with a vagina and breasts. You a human being. I look at the story of you disrespecting me. And that's a lot of convicts take that in there. And he stopped her. I bet you she ain't she quit that job. And I'm not saying this is a fact. I'm guaranteed that she quit that job and did not come back. And if she did come back, she ain't worked no more housing units at all. She seen that day all the stories she heard about prison is tough. Because you know, when you get in there, you probably think it's a bunch of punk behind dudes in there. Like, what's the name said one time, Colin Powell? He said, you know, they asked him, like, damn, man, you know, when y'all have war and all that, man, you take our babies, you know, our young babies to war and stuff like that. Why y'all don't take all the prisoners that got 30, 40, 50 years in life? He said, man, I thought about taking them and, you know, getting them out of jail to come over here and fight these wars with us. But upon thinking further, why would I take somebody that like that it'd be 200 to 250 guys, and y'all say these all murderers and hang his crimes and all that, and there's one guard on the block. When that guard says lock down and shake his T's to signify everybody go to themselves, everybody goes to themselves. But these are supposed to be your criminals of America, your killers, your your serial killers, hide women for days and chop their heads off. That guard coming in and say, Lock in, one little puny little white boy looking like Steve Urkel. Get locked down, y'all. They got little Pakistanians in there, and then I'm not saying they weak, but then you know they got a little fragile frame. And they in there and lock down, lock down. They can't even talk English, right? Lock down. And then everybody always locked down, give me a magazine, yo. Me included. Me included, locking them themselves. So he was right with that point. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, a lot of people come in and see that and be like, but they don't know it can just get crazy at the drop of a dime. Like the incident that happened at USP Kane in the federal system. The dude went there, shook down a dude's cell, CEO boy, ripped the pages out of his car, and dude murdered him. Dude murdered him. He came down, he went up there seen, because you know, when they come out the cell, they'll just come out, leave your door wide open, be taking off their gloves, walking back to the office. They probably got a little passing bag of taking some contraband that you had in there, extra socks or something. You know, they take they just being real nutty to mess up your bed. Then you want to hurry up and rush back to your cell to see how much of it, because when they shake down, they don't put nothing back in place. They might take your mattress off, check your mattress, leave it on the floor, then put it back on the bed. They ripped your sheets all off the bed, check the sheets, throw that by the toilet. So you gotta go get your cell back together after a shakedown, your cell be like obliterated. It'd be like somebody threw a bomb in there and blew everything up because they going in everything and all that. And when the boy seen his religious work on the ground like that, man, he lost it, man. This boy had what a life sentence or two life sentences. But I'm like, but a lot of people, a lot of men have been in the feds right now know about this story. And this happened a couple years ago. This is not even five years old, if I'm not if I'm not mistaken. And if it is, it's not over the 10 years. And Boy came out there and murdered him. He murdered him, he murdered him on the steps, right there on the steps. With a knife in the wax. Yeah, he had a knife. He had a knife. Murdered him. And then everybody that's on the block that's seen it. You know, dudes mind their business. Dudes just start going in the cell. Because you see a CO getting punished like this, they coming. Once they get wind of it, they coming. They coming, and whoever in their way, they crushing the police. Yeah. So niggas is going to their cell. I'm not even going to be, they ain't got to question me because I ain't seen nothing. So, dude go up, go in his cell. The whole block is empty because everybody went in their cell. CO underneath the steps dead. Dude comes out his cell. Police still don't know. He in there did. The CO, they comrade. Dude must have been thinking, well, I'm thinking this because you see him come back out, about 10 minutes later, go back down there and start stabbing him some more. He already gone. He done chucked him 10 minutes ago. He probably got in that cell and was like, my life over with. He done made me and got mad all over again and came out there and dogged even some more. And that and that's what a lot of civilians that come in there to be correctional officers got to think about, man. Like, this is not, you not promised to come home, man. Just as well as we're not promised to come home. Convicts not to cut you off, bro. But they're not promised to come home either. Because the smallest little thing can turn into the uh explosion. I'm talking about like a CO might pull you. Like you got you got a sign like when dudes is using the bathroom, whether they're in there masturbating, having sex with other men, or cutting up whatever they cutting up, you know, a dude to put a sign up over the door. I mean sign like you got a small little window that a guard can walk past and see what's going on in your cell. But when the blocks is open, you know, it's no lock when your door nails. So it's just so, but men, it's a universal sign of respect. If that towel is up over my window or some paper obscuring the view, that means walk past this cell. I'm in here doing either use it, even them things that I just mentioned. And then you might got a guard that walked past and is very disrespectful. You got some guards that's respectful. They'll see the sign up and they'll knock on your door with the walkie, like, yo, man, take the sign down, man. Y'all know I ain't supposed to have signs up, but he'll keep walking.

SPEAKER_06 43:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 43:38

And checking other rooms. That was respect. If I'm whatever I'm in there doing, I'm like, yeah, see, oh, drawing, I'll take them on. You know what I mean? But he could have just opened the door if he wants to, because your door ain't locked. Everybody out. We is we're out, we're not locked in.

SPEAKER_06 43:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 43:50

But then you got guards that walk past and just straight open your door wide open. Yeah. Whatever you in there and then you let embarrass like, damn. We're like, damn, bro, why you just ain't knocking on? Door, man, like, man, you ain't supposed to keep no tile up on your door. You know that. But this be the nutty people. Like, come on, this dude got the leg. This boy got a life sentence.

SPEAKER_04 44:08

Yeah, you gotta have some type of privacy.

SPEAKER_05 44:09

Yeah, I mean, the dude just, oh, yo, take down that sign, man. You know the rules. All right. Now if you come around again and I still got that up, then I bought that.

SPEAKER_06 44:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 44:17

But it's a mutual respect. It goes both ways. Respect is due to the dog. Convicts gotta give it to each other, and the police gotta give it to the convicts, and the convicts gotta give it to the police in order for the jail to function correctly.

SPEAKER_04 44:29

Because respect is a very, very important component to equal success. Uh, you know, to to coincide successfully behind a prison wall, because you gotta be in a cell with a man every single day.

SPEAKER_05 44:43

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 44:44

One of my homies called me from Phoenix and he said he's in he's in, you know, he's he's he's a Muslim man, you know. And um his cell he is a um you know a homosexual.

SPEAKER_03 44:53

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 44:54

But he's been there, he like, I've been here and I've been in, I've been in this cell for so long. I've been I've been I'm comfortable. But I didn't want he didn't want to go into the you know, I mean, start barking about it because he didn't want to just change his comfortability. I'm comfortable and I put this boy in my cell. Yeah, he got a job, he got some stuff going on, and you know that if he if he says something about them putting him in the cell, they get they would take his his privileges away.

SPEAKER_05 45:19

Well, they they they could do nuts stuff, see, but he in the state. See, the feds play different. If you do that, like you buck and all that. See, it's it's different from state and fed, man. Like, you know, like in the feds, if I'm in that cell first and a shy moolie come up, and I'm well a homosexual come up to the door and the police bring him to the door, I'm bucking from the drive. Yo, he's not coming in here. He's not coming in here. And the police will be like Jackson. You going, but then now the Shah Mooly gonna be like, Yeah, I'm not going in there. Just off the strip of that. So now the police looking at me and him like, girl, you heard me. I'm blaming on him. You heard him, he ain't coming in. He already, so now they ain't even on you no more. Okay. The bunk ain't gonna still be out there like, put me in there. I don't care what he's talking about. No, hell no.

SPEAKER_04 46:00

How you get that voice down like that good?

SPEAKER_05 46:02

What do you mean you hear him talk all the time? The hell, what they're trying to sound like women. Talking about how you get that voice so good. They in there talking like goddamn women. Talking about how you get the voice damn so good. It's this man crazy.

SPEAKER_04 46:11

I'm concerned.

SPEAKER_05 46:12

I've been a view concerned. No, you ain't got to be concerned about my my manness. It's all the way in tech. All the way. Not only that, I'm Muslim. Did y'all hear that? I ain't running around here.

SPEAKER_04 46:23

Yeah, they heard it.

SPEAKER_05 46:24

They didn't heard the everybody knows a homosexual, everybody know a homosexual. I'm talking about the flaming ones, and I'm not up here bashing the homosex that's what they choose to do, that's what they like to do. Cool. I like to do what I do, they like to do what they do. Ain't no bashing up here, none of that. Everybody is their own person. Just because I don't agree with it don't mean I hate it or I hate you or I want you to die. No, I'm just doing this and you're doing that. But every one of us who's watching this show, all my audience, us up here, knows a homosexual. So you ain't never heard one of them talk?

SPEAKER_04 46:53

Yeah, but I ain't got the voice of it.

SPEAKER_05 46:54

Oh, you probably ain't got, but how they talking? How they say them?

SPEAKER_04 46:56

I don't know. Sound sound kind of feminine.

SPEAKER_05 46:59

Okay, all right. But then when you quiet your ass up and let's get on with this show. Keep over here making these drones at me and all that. Talking about something wise, you over there sounding like how you know. I've never I've been around for years. I know how to mimic them now. Hey, Black, what you doing? Yeah, black, get out of here. Stop talking to me like that. Yeah. You're acting crazy.

SPEAKER_04 47:15

Yeah, but you know. But at the end of the day, these people, you know, have to have those those respectful boundaries when it comes to, you know, people in jail. I mean, the C the COs and the uh staff members. Well, it's really just COs because the because the uh inmates basically run the block. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 47:35

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They run the jail. Don't nothing come about to the police unless an inmate decides to tell them a snitcher on the block, a jailhouse wreck. But everything goes, I mean, nine times out of ten, man, if you got a hundred police, a hundred COs, 70 of them trying to make it home, bro. They doing they eight and they skating, man. And then the other 30, they got to work hard and get informants in there and all that to find out where the drugs at and who's doing this and who got the knives. You know what I'm saying? But they be like, man, listen, man, y'all go ahead and do y'all, man. The COs is they big babysitters. They baby. That's a daycare.

SPEAKER_03 48:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 48:10

It's a grown folk daycare, man. They come in there to sit they eight hours and make sure don't nobody fight. You know, I'm not looking for you. If I smell cigarettes, if I'm a guard, I'm like, yo, man, you know I got a lieutenant to walk around like on such and such, man. Make sure because I don't make me do my job. Yeah. And when you letting the men know that, they're like, oh yeah, black, oh yeah, he's cool. Or yeah, we know the lieutenant comes at four. I'm gonna smoke at 4.15. You know what I mean? Sometimes they'll come sign a log book and leave, but sometimes they might want to do a round on your unit.

SPEAKER_04 48:36

Yeah, everybody understands the flow of the prison or the flow, where the flow post to go. Exactly. Because if you if you break that flow, then you like you said, it could cause a riot in that drink.

SPEAKER_05 48:46

Yeah, a massive riot could cause massive people to die, be unalive. The term y'all like to lose nowadays, unalive.

SPEAKER_04 48:53

Now, uh another thing, do these COs come in uh talking about their family, yo, man, yeah, my son just did this, my my daughter just did that.

SPEAKER_05 49:02

You can build, yeah, you can have something that build relationships with that. They ain't coming to try to tell any an old any uh convict that, but the ones that they cool with. Yeah, you see dudes sit up there talk to the COs all day long. That don't mean he the police, but you can get played as you can get that tag on you. Like, damn, why this nigga always it's not good to go up there and be talking, you know what I mean? Talking having you just but you got dudes that sit up there and go, dude, might be in this jail 12, 13 years, all the police knowing, yo, such and such, come here, man. What's up, man? But that don't mean he's telling, but it does look crazy.

SPEAKER_04 49:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 49:32

You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_04 49:33

So you gotta be real cautious with it.

SPEAKER_05 49:34

Yeah, how you move. And especially if the men know you, like, nah, he ain't on that. How much time you spending with these people? Yeah, exactly. But you got some police come right in, yo, man. Jackson, come here, man. But you see the games last night. I was playing my tickets, man. I lost this, almost one to$10,000. You're like, for real, you should have played such and such. Like, they they be in there bidding with you. You build relationships with them. They in here, you do 10 years in this jail, that guard been here the whole time. You know him better than some friends you know in the street.

SPEAKER_04 49:58

Has it ever been a time where you've seen like um maybe an inmate defend a guard? Like, if if one inmate was out of pocket, the other inmate uh try to. I'm sorry, if an inmate was going at it with a guard, and the other inmate stepped in, like, yo, you tripping.

SPEAKER_05 50:13

Like, that's I haven't seen it, but I heard it. I heard about something where Zoe, and like a woman was getting stomped out by two dudes, a CO woman, and another inmate from somewhere else jumped in it and tried to break it up. He started getting stomped out with her, but he tried. But I I heard, I don't know how true it is or not, you know, but I haven't actually seen it with my own eyes. Like an inmate and a uh uh convict and a guard in the altercation, and then seeing other convicts to come in to aid that one guard. Nah, I haven't seen it.

SPEAKER_04 50:42

I was told uh I think uh little B Nozzle was telling me he was up, he was up in the in the state, and I think he said, uh, you remember mean. He said mean was on some wild stuff up there going at it, like with people in the guard and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_05 50:54

Yeah, yeah, he got his goddamn mind. Out his goddamn mind. The craziest man I ever met in my life. And I know a bunch of crazy people.

SPEAKER_04 51:02

How much time I mean got me like sentences?

SPEAKER_05 51:03

He got about two, three life sentences. I know he got two for sure, but I I think he got a third one too.

SPEAKER_04 51:11

But it but that's what I'm saying, like you never know um you know what can happen by just you know being too friendly with the with the guards or or or just uh having a relationship with a guard where you're getting away.

SPEAKER_05 51:23

Angel Son, I want to get a shout out to Angel Son for just becoming a member. Thank you, man. We appreciate that. Angelson, if I'm saying it wrong, I apologize. It's like Angel Sum or Angel Son.

SPEAKER_04 51:32

Angel Son, 34. Shout out to you, man. Appreciate you for becoming a member. You know, but it's tricky, it's tricky in jail, man. It is real tricky. Now, um if you if you if you go back to uh the COs in prison, like the COs and how they're dealing with you, has it ever been a female CEO that's been like thorough, like cool? Yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 51:51

Yes, a lot of them. What are you talking about? Has it ever been a CEO or female CEO is cool?

SPEAKER_04 51:56

Yes! Is it better up in the state or down the county?

SPEAKER_05 52:00

See, I never been upstate.

SPEAKER_04 52:01

I'm talking about a federal upstate to the federal.

SPEAKER_05 52:03

Oh, you're talking about at the jails. Um probably more so at in in FDC Philly, because when you get unless you go into a jail where it's government, like it all depends on your ethnicity.

SPEAKER_04 52:14

I'm saying any prison. I'm talking about any city prison. I could be in the county, it could be an FDC compared to banning upstate feds. Is the is the women a lot more uh the women's COs? Are they more cool or more down to earth? That's probably they probably better win the city.

SPEAKER_05 52:30

Yeah, that's what I say, because you know them. But they more so arrant too, like CFCF. CF is CFCF is ran right now with women and they running it with an iron fist and they disrespectful over there, bro. The first thing a female do when she feels slighted is go pull up your joint. That's why you got 16 cents on your books, you bum. That's why you ain't got no like little like that that that stuff that'll get you killed up in the jails.

SPEAKER_04 52:52

I just know you ain't got no lawyer.

SPEAKER_05 52:54

But you see, you got an appointment, they could pull up your whole joint, everything. Oh, yeah, he got uh court appointed, he got court dicks, such and such. They got computers sitting right there in front. They could pull up the picture prim number in and pull you right up. See your account, you ain't had money in a month. Last time you got money, last time you got money was$30, and that was four months ago, and you ain't got nothing since then. You sitting there like, damn. They be going that hard like man, they go harder than that. They disrespectful, bro. Very, but they like who they like. You might come in, you was bull out there. Oh my god, tall feet, yeah. I'm gonna make sure you're all right. I'm gonna get you some low food, I'm gonna get you some extra soaps and all. But they got picks. But the bull that comes in, he was a robbery boy, so he ain't really got much and all that. But he a man, he might be like, damn, man, you sure you be de-eating all the time, man. Get out of here, because he, you I mean, this is how he feels. But she's going on him harder. Yeah, get out of here, you bum broke. Like they they be the them females over the F, man. I'm not saying all of them, but I'm not trying to turn a bad, you know, apple towards me, but I gotta give up the truth. They over that joint running that jail, man, and they disrespecting the men that's out of pocket, man. Them females is over there disrespecting the men. I'm giving you facts and truth that I know. Just because it's my truth, it might not be your truth, but you know, a lot of men that go through them county jails, the feet, you know, majority of females is getting jobs everywhere now. And a lot of them, uh and I'm gonna go ahead and be honest. A lot of these females is getting these CO's jobs coming off a PHA. So don't act like you're better than me. We know what's going on. You've been sitting there on government assistance six, seven months, and ain't nothing wrong with that. But don't come in here, and then you got your braces now, you got your first check, you got your hands done, and your little top done, and then you in here trying to carry me like I'm the scum of the earth. No, baby, we all need some help. You got you some. You got some good appointment now, and you can take care of your own cool. But you was just six months, six months ago living down 46th Street, 400 Bussy, paying$35 a month rent. Stop. Stop the BS. 400 busy but shut down for like. I'm just saying. I'm just speaking. You talking about when you right go with 400 buses but shut down. It's a man crazy as hell. Look at this man over here.

SPEAKER_04 54:57

Yeah, that job been shut down for a minute. But yeah, like I understand what you're saying, though. Because sometimes, you know, uh a person. That's why you look at like like success, right? Sometimes the wrong person can become successful sometimes. You know, like I would what I mean by that is the person can become successful and it and they can use it as uh power, a weapon, and just stand on it. And be like, yo, this person is like, wow, wow. But that can be the um that could be a little inside joke, y'all would go ahead.

SPEAKER_06 55:34

Yeah. Boy, they should have gave them niggas no money, man. That's how I be sometimes. I'll be praying for you, man. Man, this man is crazy. I'm sitting here listening to you, you just going. I'm about to tell him people. Y'all really want to give him that money. Y'all really want to do this. You sure you want to put that much money in that man's page? Oh man.

SPEAKER_04 56:02

He ain't gonna be yeah, but yeah, I've been I'm gonna have to sit back and watch the fireworks go off. My phone will be ringing.

SPEAKER_06 56:10

Yo, yo, like that. I'll be like, okay. He ain't in jail this year. He ain't dead. All right, I talked to y'all the morning. You dead, I'm cool.

SPEAKER_05 56:26

I was like, all right, I get what he's like he's putting us in jail. But yeah, man, you gotta watch yourself out there, man. You gotta watch yourself in them jails, man. It just be crazy, man. People you use power in the wrong way.

SPEAKER_06 56:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 56:41

And it's not everybody. I'm not saying it, oh, every guard, no, no, no. It's not every female. No, it's not. No. I'm not sitting here making this like an episode of bash females. That is absolutely not the truth. But I got to give you the truth is female that's doing that at a alarming rate.

SPEAKER_04 56:58

Yeah, I mean, because I I just I just think that sometimes, you know, uh sometimes people, certain people, people can be in the wrong position of power. Like it's just in the wrong, the wrong person can be in position. And sometimes it it dwindles out fast. They might get up out of there or something, like the girl said she got beat up real bad by the guy, but that was just her her karma for whatever she had going on. Cause you can tell how she was talking about.

SPEAKER_05 57:21

Then that wasn't the first person she disrespected.

SPEAKER_04 57:23

Yeah, cuff up. I ain't trying to have she was like, I've seen it, right?

SPEAKER_05 57:26

Yeah, I ain't trying to.

SPEAKER_04 57:26

She's like, cuff up. Back up behind the line. He like, I ain't I ain't I ain't saying I was asking for a white shirt.

SPEAKER_05 57:31

Yeah, that's it.

SPEAKER_04 57:32

She was still going, going, going.

SPEAKER_05 57:34

Like she actually can beat a man. Yeah. And she filmed that that day that that was a false sense of reality in her mind.

SPEAKER_04 57:40

Yeah. Reality check.

SPEAKER_05 57:42

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_04 57:43

Yeah, man. So man, all right, man, may Allah protect us from that. But I just I just see that um sometimes, like I said, man, the wrong people can be in the position of power, man. And it and it can be used to oppress people, man. You oppressing individuals because you have been blessed with a position that you're not even really qualified for. Not you may have the mental aspect, but you don't have the right character to be able to do that. Yeah, you need a whole like the work on top of 200 people.

SPEAKER_05 58:10

Your character is 200 men, not people. Men. Men. And especially like a lot of a lot of men can't have the character or the charisma to go in there and run that. Let alone you're talking about a woman. And I'm not saying y'all can't do it, women. I just don't believe a woman should be put in that type of position to govern men. That wasn't never like that. Life wasn't never supposed to be like that. Women governing men. I'm talking about out here in the world. Ain't no woman supposed to be governing no man. Especially a hundred con 200 convicts, killers, robbers. What? She in here all soft, yeek up titty up on a Thursday. Come on, man. No, no, come on, man. That's a cat walking around all these dogs. Literally. A cat me on the woo-hoo. Come on, man. How the hell that's gonna happen? Come on, man. It's just, it's just come on, man. We ain't even got the yeah, man. Y'all get it.

SPEAKER_04 59:06

Is it any men that you may know by all right? This man probably wouldn't be able to survive in jail.

SPEAKER_05 59:10

Like, oh yes. Thousands of them.

SPEAKER_04 59:13

You see, but oh yeah, yeah. What? He get tort of real viable.

SPEAKER_05 59:16

Oh my eyes. He'll never go back. Ever for nothing. Jaywalking, talking disrespect, nothing. What? I got a couple homies that won't survive in jail.

SPEAKER_04 59:25

Like seven days in there, probably like uh three days in there.

SPEAKER_05 59:28

You talking about seven. That's two seven days. Man, come on, man.

SPEAKER_04 59:30

That's because of their character, I'm assuming.

SPEAKER_05 59:32

And then that don't mean they suck us. That don't mean that they just got a a soft demeanor. Like they said, I know some soft people that went in there and turned into cold-blooded animals. But I know some, I mean, like I said, I had some people in there. I'm like, he don't even look shorty a kid. He light skinned, like to play ball all the time and joke and play on the wrong time. Like, yeah, he gotta hurry up and get out of here. This ain't for him. He just with a good group of dudes that ain't gonna let nobody do nothing to him. But we went all the time. He coming out, jumping on people's shoulders. Yo, what's up? Like, yo, bro, what the fuck are you doing? We in a penitentiary. You done ran up and jumped on my neck. Nigga, we already slammed you on your head. Yeah. Like, you gotta conduct yourself as a man at all times. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_04 1:00:11

I might have done that to you though. We was in there.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:13

If I was in there, oh, because we homies and that's cool. We you my brother. Like, if I'm meeting you, you know, I'm from north and west, we just becoming friends. I can't start off playing with you like that. Yeah, you know. No, man, hell no.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:25

Maybe you're right. But at the end of the day, you know, like sometimes, you know, that might be the reason why that why people don't don't uh break law because they they can't, they know they can't handle that. They can't handle going to going to jail. Yeah. I can't handle that.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:38

I can't handle it.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:40

That's why I ain't breaking no law. I thought I could, that's why I kept running in and out of there. Oh, that ain't nothing for me. I am coolie out. Super coolie oh. Yeah, I'm cool.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:50

Yeah, you definitely ain't trying to go back. Me neither. I ain't trying to go to prison myself. But you know, at the end of the day, it just uh all these different factors inside uh the prison system is like it's like it's like it's like it's like uh landmines everywhere. Like you don't do that. You better not do that. You better not say this. You better, it's like you gotta learn how to walk and talk. And your mannerisms gotta be up the par. Institutionalized, space.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:17

Yes, you got to turn into like we were talking about yesterday. You gotta put that gorilla suit on. You be so happy to get home, man. You ain't zipping that joint, man. Like, hey, hanging that suit up. You don't want to be walking around with your face balled up. I'm talking about you have dudes, a couple dudes might laugh if that's us and our little group, but we might hear some of everybody, I ain't trying to be on that all day long. You do be like that, doesn't sound like because it's it's still in me, but I'm getting it out of me.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:39

The whole the whole last couple of trips we was out, I'm like this walk.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:43

No, because I have shorts patience. Not that I'm just a grumpy dude.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:46

If something happened, did you do this? Did you do that? You like nah, I ain't uh you like, how you you just getting frustrated with everything.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:52

Yeah, because if it's something going on and I don't know how to do it, I get frustrated. But if we got everything done and we do what we're doing, I'm never getting frustrated because I'm here. But if it's something you telling me, go on the email and put that. I'm not trying to go on the why I can't text it. Why gotta go on the email? Why do they have text in email? What is the difference of that? That blows my mind. Come on, man. I ain't trying to do none of that. Yeah, you gotta go on the email, go that, put that one. No, why can't tax it? I mean, but you know it's the rate the world works, so I gotta become acclimated with the society. That's it. That's it.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:25

But you know, it's just uh that's just a part of being a part of being free. You know, what's the biggest adjustment that people got like the prison that like like yourself 20 years? What's the biggest adjustment you gotta make, like uh getting out? What is it?

SPEAKER_05 1:02:39

Like is it the biggest adjustment is things is ain't gonna come overnight. Because a lot of us is in jail for getting fast money. And it's hard to banquish that from your mind. Especially when you get older. You get older, you come home in your forties and fifties, and you know it's a way that you can go out there and make ten thousand dollars in two, three days. Ain't no job giving you$10,000 in two, three days. So the hardest adjustment is to have to embed patience in you and keep grind. That's hard, bro.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:11

And then that whisperer, man, just do it for a little while.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:13

Yeah, exactly. And then once you do it for a little while, and say you do do it, and then come up. You going past that dead timeline you got gave yourself. But I'm gonna give myself another three more months to get me another joint. Yeah, you're gonna be right back full fledged into things.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:26

I say, no, you all the way in.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:29

Patience, man. That's the biggest, you know, uh thing that you got to, you know, rustle down with yourself. You see, I couldn't do it right the first time. I went back. I had to go back for another 18 months just to get it. I I have it now. Yes.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:42

I remember that phone call. First time I talked to you after that, you like, man. I was waiting on you, man.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:50

Yeah, I was waiting on you. I still say that to this day. All you had to do was tell me I wasn't meeting you. I had to pulled off.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:58

I came right down there. I seen all the cops in there, I just kept on pushing. Yeah, but did you think I was locked up? They told me they grabbed you. So I I ride past, I see the I see the door open. I see a little unmarked joint up on the up on the sidewalk. I said, dang. Yeah, they got they got young, they took young. I'm like, yeah. I seen your uh your uh your car there. I'm like, door open.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:19

Nobody inside.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:21

Well, I didn't see I ain't seen nothing, nobody that was uh I ain't see no um nobody that was arrested.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:27

I was already we was already bag tagged and brought to the side.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:30

I I'll say it was the car doors over. They did they stand out there like this with their hands and they vests.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:35

Yeah, I'm uh well well accomplished men with another good bus today, man.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:39

I ready to pull up and say, do y'all lock up a uh abrahim Jackson? But no, that was crazy because I because they uh they called me. They told me, yeah, they just ran in there and got you. I said, Dang. And I rolled down there, like I'll post, I was just supposed to meet him. And then um, next thing you know, they call a call came in from you, like, dang, man. Um I'm like, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:03

I'm like, man. I'm like, for real? You like, yeah, they got the jump. Sounds like you're at the phone. It's gonna be cool, man. I mean, you gotta just see what happens. Yeah, yeah, call Dave. That's always the next next thing. Yeah, yeah, call Dave.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:22

See what he thinks about it. I'm like, yeah, he thinks about some money. That's what he thinks about it. Was it on you?

SPEAKER_04 1:05:30

No, no, no, no, no. I'm like, all right, because that's a win right there. I wasn't gonna get that's that's that give you a little chance. A little hope.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:37

Like you ain't have it on you. Oh, yeah, we might go ahead and dig this out. Yeah, man, stay with it, man. Don't, don't, man, stay without that jail, man. Again, man. We're not up here glamorizing jail or trying to say that it's something a badge of honor. We trying to tell y'all all about it, man, when you ain't got to go through what I went through, man, what he went through at the time of part of his life, man, just to get here. I had to do all that just to get it here at damn near. 50 years old, I'm ready to die. I'm closer to the grave than I am life. So I had to go give all my life up to learn this. Nah, you ain't got to do that.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:09

And you always learn viable lessons. Every single I learn viable lessons every day, man. Every single day. I mean, I don't want to say every single day, but it just seemed like I'm learning a viable lesson now. Just viable lessons. You just never ever just know what you're going to be tested with, but you gotta be willing to deal with it, whatever outcome may be. No matter how sour and taste it may be, may just be sour and taste. And the first thing you should do is always look at yourself, like, oh, what was I doing wrong? What should I fix? Because sometimes we can think that we just doing everything right. And we and we keep running on the treadmill, things is going, oh, this is happening, oh, that happened. Oh, I gotta, it's just sometimes just take time and look at yourself and reflect. Because you may be doing this right, but it's something that you're doing wrong that you can fix that may be the cause of why this ain't working. So you gotta go in and go on and say, you know, I'm gonna fix this, I'm gonna fix that. You know what I mean? Start working on yourself because you know, we we can sit here and blame everybody else or or be mad at, you know, the cother or whatever's going on, but really just look in the mirror, man, and try to fix whatever you can fix. Stop doing whatever you can do. Maybe you're doing something you're supposed to be, whatever it may be. It's always room for improvement, I should say, man, in my opinion. You know what I mean? So I don't want to get too caught up. Somebody do something to me, I'll be I'll be mad about the person doing something to me and what's going on, but I I gotta stop and think like that. You know, over the last couple weeks or months or years, I was really doing some stuff I shouldn't have been doing. And this may be the reason why I'm going through that. You know, so that's how I look at it, man. But yeah, y'all, you know, uh shout out to uh Brandon from Baltimore just becoming a member. We appreciate you, man. Um, you know, we I'm gonna tell everybody now. We got we got we got it we got a big interview next week.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:52

Go ahead.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:53

We got uh YSL Woody coming out next week. YSL Woody is gonna be on Tales from the Gels, man. Uh oh well little uh Lil Woody. Yeah, he don't like to be referred to. Not on duty a little bit, though. He might have to change that name.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:07

We on man time, man. Lil Woody, man. That's his name. Lil Woody. He's talking about this boy right here, boy.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:14

Lil Woody. Well, that's my guy. Shout out to Lil Woody, man. Shout out to um him. He's gonna be on the um on the podcast uh next week. An amazing episode. Uh crazy, man. You know, so I'm glad everybody's becoming members, and y'all can get a chance to uh uh actually watch that. Then you know it's gonna keep rolling, it's gonna keep rolling in. More and more interviews, uh more and more lives, more and more uh content. Because, you know, y'all keep us going. Like I said, he like he said, I came in here today. I was a little a little drained uh because of what I got going on. And then um just looking up here and I see the chat, everybody talking. My guy James the Flames back from uh Kaaba, wherever he was at. And then you got everybody else in the chat this and people just commenting and speaking and so forth and so on, you know. But it's good to um to um finally uh you know be here to talk to y'all, man. But you know, uh, you know, but for you, yo, young, you know, uh coming out of that situation, man, you know, you know, coming home and being home and now being at this point, uh does it seem like it was a long grind? Like, because it can you I mean we haven't really did anything yet, but does it to be where you at now, does it seem like it was long, like it was like a long, or it seemed like it just it was it was what you thought it was gonna be?

SPEAKER_05 1:09:29

I don't know how to answer that, man, because it ain't nothing fast. Yeah. But I don't want to say it's long either. It's just it's doing what you know. I didn't expect it to probably be right. I don't know. I I just I'm just like one of them dudes, I just go with the flow of things. If it does it, do it, don't it, don't. Like I'm you know, I'm more of a look for the bad first before I look for a good. And you always be able to tell me about that. I always be like, so I prepare myself in case it don't do what it's supposed to do, what I expected to do, I won't be let down. It's like I try to psych my mind out.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:00

I get taught that all the time, a lot of times. And it it works for me because I don't like I don't like to go to things thinking negative. Right. I don't like to think of negative about people before until they show me who they are. Yeah. I'll be like, uh, I go in optimistic, you know. I go and think that if I do everything right on my end, if I'm on I'm doing what I gotta do, and uh and I'm trying, I have good intentions to do something good, I always expect good. But sometimes you don't always get that. You might you might get something, like I said, that's sour in taste. You'd be like, dang it, but then you gotta keep it, pick up the pieces and keep it moving. Because man, you just life is man, life is a is a is like a um, I don't want to be cliche say like a roller coaster, but life is it's just filled with with wood-ifs or um or maybe souls, or then you have the good times. Or I shoulda, woulda, coulda. But it ain't nothing gonna miss you that ain't that that that's uh supposed to get to you. And ain't nothing gonna go um gonna come to you that ain't supposed to come to you, I should say, man. But you gotta keep pushing, take it day by day, man. And you know, um, we in here talking every day, talking to y'all, man. Like I said, I felt down a little bit. I'm not seeing the the the the familiar names. I can't, I don't know everybody's face, but we're when we had this this live event, um, gonna know everybody's face. We're gonna we're gonna we're gonna flick it up. We're gonna we're gonna have a blast. Uh we're about to release that date real soon for the live event uh at the Ramadan. And the merch. And the merch, and everything is gonna be at an alarming rate. Everything is formulating. Um, you know, so we just trying to put everything together, man. But it's all because of the the uh what's it what'd you say, the uh camaraderie we have?

SPEAKER_05 1:11:37

The camaraderie we have with the with our family, with the audience, man, with our extended family.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:41

And I really can't wait to meet y'all. Like everybody. I know we talk on the phone a little bit and we text back and forth and say little things. And I see people out on the streets that that's from our city that I see, but it's people from other places, like we get people from Seattle, North Carolina, South Carolina, Baltimore, Maryland, New York, St. Louis, like they call them from all over DC, uh, Texas, I mean LA.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:05

All over the country, man.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:06

So it's people that we that we are reaching um from all over, and it and it just and it it feels, you know, it feels positive to me. You know what I'm saying? So I want to thank everybody for that, man. For sure. Now, now you right, you um now I spoke about the situation where as though we you know started 10 months ago and to the point now, closing in on a year. Um and I asked you, you said, I asked you, I said, you know, how did you how do you feel about that did it seem like it was like a long stretch? But for me, I want to say this. Um how I feel about it, I feel like it's a lot more work to do. I feel like we have yet to accomplish anything as of yet. When I when I say anything, we have accomplished a lot. But what I say, when I say anything, I say we have more heights to go, more people to help, more uh messages that get out there, more uh stories to get out there. I think that we got a lot more to go. I think that the ceiling is is uh beyond where we at right now. Because a lot of people are oppressed out here or been oppressed in their lives and been in prison or or been harmed or affected. Because Tels in the jails is about uh, you know, these stories about prison to deter people from going to prison, but it's also about life, man. Life. We gotta we gotta be able to talk and get through these things, man, because you know, we um we need each other, man. What do you know? Even me and you, we need each other. Like we we go through our stuff, argue, sometimes uh have our issues, you know, but I'm starting to feel like that with the audience. Like I need I like y'all are family, like like y'all, like y'all um we can relate. We haven't really been in touch or or been around each other to a point where so we can we have rubber shoulders, but some of the names and familiar faces and new names and new faces, and I'm like, dang, man, this is like family. You know what I'm saying? Family, man. And y'all might want might come up here, they grind me up sometime, or might grind me up. And I, you know, I say, you know what, that's that's family. Ain't no love lost. And when I see them, we're gonna we're gonna laugh and joke and talk about it, you know. So shout out to y'all, man. Shout out to the to the to the viewers, listeners, um, you know, everybody, man, who's been who's been tuning in, man. And uh, and from from me, and I'm pretty sure uh young feel the same way. Thank y'all, yeah. Thank y'all a lot, man. Yeah, man. Um, but you know, being home and being free now, being out, you know, having some type of success. Because like you said, you may come home and think I'm gonna get$10,000 tomorrow. But you may look at your business of tells from the jails and you look at it where it was at and what number the numbers was, and now you see numbers, like all right, I can see the curve. I can see what I explained earlier.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:52

It can be and this is ain't even the end. I can see that we can we can possibly get to, and probably can't even see that. Off of doing something positive. That's the main thing.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:00

Off of positivity, positive thing. You're talking about doing something positive, not nothing negative, nothing something positive. Like I was just talking to my nephew a day uh just now before I got on the show, got on the show, and it's like all positive talk. I was like, you gotta do this about your situation, you gotta, but it's something positive. It's not nothing negative. Whereas we would trying to make sure we had to get somebody to be on the block for the shift, you know, trying to find fine workers or making sure you got this, you got that, you got all the different things you're trying to do for the wrong reason. And now you have more stability and positivity. You know what I'm saying? This don't feel like it's gonna crumble the day or tomorrow. You ain't gonna be a show like that.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:40

Like Yeah, exactly. It don't feel like when you out there on that block, boy, that thing feels like it's gonna crumble every second.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:45

All it is is listen, you you got when you're dealing with the police, you gotta avoid them every day. It takes them one time to catch you. Yeah, they can keep coming. You got 365 days in the in the year that you gotta avoid them.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:58

Yeah, it ain't nothing to them for them not catching you this one time when they ran down. Okay. You, you gotta make sure they don't catch you not one time. They can keep hit and missing, all right? We just need to catch you one time. That's it. And and if you ain't listening, you be in there talking about man, man, Tails from the jail is trying to tell us, man. Dang.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:18

Yeah. But we're here now, man. And uh we thank y'all, man. We really, really thank y'all for the support, man, once again, man. So we might take these calls, man. Uh, we want to talk to y'all. 215-316-4492. That's 215-316-4492. Some calls coming in, man. Know y'all want to uh y'all want to talk to us, man. And um, you know, we want to talk to y'all for sure, man.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:44

It's Friday. It's Friday. I'm ready to get out of here, too. It's Friday. I be feeling good being home, it's Friday. Relax, you know what I mean? Probably walk in the park tonight or something like that. It ain't too cold out there, man. You know, I like to walk down there by the water, too. I like to skip rocks off that young, man. You understand me?

SPEAKER_04 1:17:05

Yeah. Yeah, man. So you carry the rocks down there in your beef in your briefcase?

SPEAKER_05 1:17:11

No, nah. I ain't got this a bunch of rocks down there. I ain't gonna put none in my briefcase. Tell us in the jails who you speaking to.

SPEAKER_08 1:17:18

This this bird.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:20

What's up, bird? We calling from, bro.

SPEAKER_08 1:17:22

I'm calling from West Fury, a A C, man. This this is Lee from 46th Street, man, from Martin, man. I just want to say, man, I'm watching you, man. Lee. Oh, what's up, Lee? What's up, Lee? What's going on? I love what you're doing, man. I watched your show, man. Appreciate you, man. That's all. What's up? How your mom doing, man? Everybody good, I'm doing life. Yeah, I'm doing love, man.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:44

What's up with you, man? Good to hear from you, bro.

SPEAKER_08 1:17:48

That's all, man. I just wanted to talk to you real fast, man. You know, every time I see you, I think of love, man. So you already know. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Everything good.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:57

Everything good, bro. Appreciate you, man. You know it's all love, man.

SPEAKER_08 1:18:00

Absolutely, no problem. All right, man. I'll catch you up.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:02

All right, so I'm gonna go.

SPEAKER_08 1:18:04

What they got for there.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:05

Yeah, it's my guy, man. My man Lee, we grew up together, man. 46th Street. Going to Malthy, man. I mean, back in the days, his mom used to uh used to uh give us all this candy and stuff, man. Oh, yeah. Mm-hmm. When we was young, man.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:18

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:19

Yeah, man. Him and his sister, I believe. Yeah, that's my guy, man. But you know, man, you know, calling y'all 215-316-4492. That's 215-316-4492, man. Lines is open. I mean, y'all want to talk to us, man, before we get up out of here, man. You want to talk to you? I don't care where you're calling from. You call from uh, you know, uptown, downtown, New York, North Carolina, Switzerland. I mean, the phone lines are open. 215-316-4492.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:48

I wish a lot more um females would call in, man, because I know, you know, I'll be in the street and about a bunch of females be coming to me, asking me certain things about prison life. And the questions that they ask me be legitimate questions, but I'll be, you know, I answer them, you know, in the manner that I think it should be answered in. But, you know, these questions that they ask, a lot of people be wanting to know about these joints. But I would, you know, I want them to call up, man. Call up females, man. Show some love, man. We love our women, man, our beautiful black women, white women, Chinese women, Puerto Rican women. Call up. Call up, man. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:20

Yeah, what a hearing for y'all, man. 215-316-4492. That's 215-316-4492. Call and tell us what y'all doing this weekend. What's on the what's on the agenda? You know what I mean? What's on the uh, you know, what's the what's those plans for tonight? Tomorrow night. You know, the weekends come and go. It'd be Monday before you know it. Yes, it will. Back to work again for those who don't work on the weekends. You know what I mean? So you know, but we sitting up here chilling, man. You know, and I want to I want to give a uh a shout out to uh the people behind the scenes, man, the young guys who've been who've been rocking with us, man, and um, you know, rolling with us and helping us along the way. I always preach to them about um being um having integrity. You know, integrity, doing the right thing when nobody's watching. That's the way that's the way everybody's gonna be successful is when everybody's doing the right thing when nobody when nobody's watching. That's the integrity is a real important thing. I teach my kids that all the time. You know, to have integrity. What does that mean? You know what I mean? Because anybody can, you know, I can sit up here and say I'm doing this and doing that. But one thing about when you say you're doing this and doing that, men lie, women lie, numbers don't. You're gonna be able to always gonna be able to see uh what's what, man. But yeah, y'all the phone lines up, man. 215-316-4492. That's 215-316-4492, man. We go. Tell us from the jails. What's going on?

SPEAKER_07 1:20:50

What's up, boys?

SPEAKER_04 1:20:54

What's up, Dad? What's up with you? That's that. I don't know what that was doing in a white car today.

SPEAKER_07 1:21:03

Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:04

Okay, okay, all right, yeah, yeah, okay. What's up with you, man?

SPEAKER_07 1:21:13

You are still what you go what you doing this weekend, black.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:17

Oh man, you know me, man. I'm just chilling, man. I might go down by the water and throw me some rocks. That's what I was just up here talking about.

SPEAKER_07 1:21:23

You see, and Whisco coming back today, man. So we're gonna get him this weekend. We ain't gonna tell who it is, though. We got some eat for y'all.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:31

Yeah, for sure. Okay. Yeah, tell him, tell him I was calling me too, man. I mean, he ain't here. I text him too, man. I gotta grind him up, man. Uh, you know, listen, man. I was calling you, man.

SPEAKER_07 1:21:39

We're gonna grind him up when we seen. We're gonna see him tomorrow.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:41

Yeah, for sure, man. But yeah, Dot, man, you know, yeah, come up here on the podcast with us, man. What probably tomorrow, man?

SPEAKER_07 1:21:48

All right, yo, we're coming. I'm coming to the morrow.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:49

I'm coming to the murder. Oh, we got we shooting tomorrow, too, y'all. We got a guest. We got some New York guest coming up here tomorrow. Smite from New York, gonna be on live with us uh tomorrow. Um, I don't know. I gotta figure out the time, but we're gonna be, we're gonna, y'all get the notification. We we're gonna be live.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:04

I thought it was from 12 to 4 between them times.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:06

I gotta check. I I didn't know off the top of my head, so you know, not on duty. I didn't know. I wasn't thinking about it.

SPEAKER_07 1:22:11

All right, see y'all Lamar and show Lord.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:13

All right, Sean Laura.

unknown 1:22:15

All right.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:16

Yeah, number 215-316-4492. That's 215-316-4492 for those who want to call. And we got a few more minutes before we get up out of here, answer a few questions, talk to a few people. You know, got something going on, you wanted to help you through it, man. You got you, you know, you need some some um some advice. I mean, you need some help with something, you need to hear some some some words of encouragement. I mean, call us, man. 215-316-44892. Let's see what's going on over here in the chat, man. What do we got? I don't do that. Shout out to Nate Buck316, man. That's P tapping in. On Zip Code. Shout out to you. Um, who else is in here, man? Who else we got? Need the G, 3590. I mean, and if y'all can uh become members, man, we appreciate that, man. If you can't, you're unable to become a member. I mean, it's okay too as well, man. Tell us from the jails. They hung up, man. Well, yeah, y'all about to get a body here, man. Want to thank everybody who's been tuning in to Tell us from the Jails, man. This episode of Tellsman Jails is sponsored by uh TNS Media Group. If you ever want to get into podcasting, contact TNS Media Group. We're here live in Power Room, should I say? Uh, shout out to everybody who's been working with us, rocking with us, all the uh the guests we had. Um, shout out, go check that Rallo video out right now. It's doing pretty, pretty well. Uh, shout out to all the members, shout out to all the subscribers, shout out to everybody all around the world who's been listening to us, tuning in, listening to us on Apple Podcasts, iHeartRadio, Spotify, all platforms. We thank you for all the support.