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SPEAKER_05

Yeah, hold on one second, fix that. Yeah, hello, yeah, yeah. There we go. There we go. There we go. Why'd you even turn minds down? Yeah, yeah. Can you hear me now?

SPEAKER_04

I can hear you. Uh unfortunately not can hear you. Okay, I'll be right back. What's up, y'all? What's going on out there, man? What's up? What's going on? How was y'all weekend? How was everybody, you know, what was going on with the with the with the family, with the gang?

SPEAKER_05

You know, was everybody hopefully everybody is still here that was here on the Friday. You know, hopefully, hopefully. Hopefully, ain't nobody had to visit that jail cell or the precinct. You know, not only is the jail cell problems on the, you know, the human being itself, but just the things that come with it. You know, Bell, getting a lawyer if they charged you for something frivolous. Hopefully, ain't nobody had to go through that and start their work week off at work. Well, maybe you was off. Maybe you was kicked back and bought the Monday in laid up. It's all dreary and raining out there. That's a good never good time when you're in jail. When it's like that, you be kind of a little happy. I know I was. When I seen it was all gray outside and it was raining a little bit, I'll be kind of happy a little bit, Soffie.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, yeah?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, I'll be happy because can't nobody go out and have fun. What? Yeah, like I be really hating. Really? Like back when my back when I was doing time, I had my the my I had my spells where I was hating.

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Wow.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, and if it was snow and a blizzard, I'd be in that joint like bet. Like everybody go in. I'm in. I ain't I was bad. I was mad at the world. I wasn't looking at the blame. I wasn't blaming myself. I was blaming, man. I'd have got mad at you if you wanted to take a trip. Then where you going, bro? I just asked you for$100. You sent me$55. I sent you 75 because I need that 20 to go 25 to go towards this trip. Yeah, so I get that. I get that, man.

SPEAKER_04

You know, shout out to uh shout out to John Michael, uh, Corey Woods, uh Kimi Dance, SB Meek 9791, uh J Money3700, Chance 215, Low Yupp, what's up, bro? Uh, you know, Justin Porter, you know, Vitz, uh, Vito ZG1, you know, everybody that's in here today, man. Everybody is 716 Deuce, J Money03700. I don't know if I said that before, but shout out to everybody that's here early. Shout out to here that shout out to everybody that's that's to come. So, you know, once again, I want to make this clear because a lot of times, you know, people are saying and saying things to us and emailing us about a lot of different things, and they're saying, hey, uh, you know, you seem like y'all glorifying prison. That is not true. We're not glorifying prison in any way, shape, form, or fashion. Our job is to spread the awareness of prison and to um you know notify those uh out there who are listeners and people out there who are out there breaking law or people who are thinking about breaking law, let them know that that prison is an option for you out here living living wrong. So for us to uh come up on this podcast, it's a privilege for us to be able to speak to y'all and spread the awareness, and in my opinion.

SPEAKER_05

Yes, it is. And it's so much of a privilege, man, for us to speak to you, man. I feel, you know, like it's a common upon me being in there so long and going through the you know, the tedious, the tediousness of horribleness, you know. And one thing that I come upon now that I want to bring upon y'all today to start this episode with is a topic that goes on in jail that a lot of people that's free in society, you know, take for granted.

SPEAKER_04

And this topic is turn your mic up like that up towards like this.

SPEAKER_05

And this topic is the luxury of taking a shower on the street, man. I want y'all to sit here and just think for a little bit. Just breathe. Just breathe. Count the three and just breathe in and out and think about what I'm telling you. The luxury of taking a shower in society. Let's start with, you know, you might wake up early in the morning, wake up, you know, your breath price thinking, man, you know, you know how it is. You know, you wake sleeping your eyes and stuff like that. You roll out the bed, go turn on the water, your hot water getting hot, you know, whether you're in a home or apartment or whether you're in a one-room efficiency. The luxury of that shower is the privacy that you have, the privacy that you would probably take for granted unless you were in a trying situation such as prison. Now, let me tell you about the prison showers in the penitentiary. Upon getting to the shower, you have to walk to the shower with your boots on. You probably have an old pair of boots that they didn't give you, uh jailhouse-issue boots. And you walk to the shower with your boots on. Boots on, pair of shorts, boxes, towel rag, all your little shower bag with your little hygiene products in there, and a homie. Yeah. Y'all gotta get it. No, no, no, no. He's not getting in there with me. If you can stop and just listen like the audience instead of trying to play, then you will see what I'm trying to say. No, he's not getting in there with you. All right, you say you say. No, I say what you're taking with you to the shower. Listen to me. I'm not done explaining. All right. Is your shower, I mean your shower shoes in your hand, your boots on your feet, draw shorts, towel, rag, the little necessities that you need for a shower as far as soap, toothpaste, lotion, whatever you may be doing in the shower, in your in one of your comrades. Why? Because when upon you uh arriving to the shower that you want to use to take your shower and to cleanse yourself, uh your partner that you were taken to the shower with, he will stand guard outside that shower for you. In these USPs, these United States penitentiaries. Yes, it's going down like that. And and also in a quite a few FCIs. Just think about that for a minute. You home right now. Just think about having to go to the shower with your son or something, due to the fact that someone might try to run in there. And you know, the shower is one of your most vulnerable moments. You in there with soap on you, you got soap on your face, so your view is obscured. You can't see, so now you're at your most vulnerable moment in prison, and dudes will prey on this moment at an alarming rate. This is the nine times out of ten, if you got an altercation, this is when one of these dudes will try to come for you with either locking stock, broom, knife, you know, anything to try to take you down or take you off of this earth. So that's why it's important for you to bring, you know, a dude with you to stand right outside the shower. I'm talking about he could turn right around and see you. Only thing that's guarding you is the partition door that you're closed in, and the door is like this wide, it only blocks like from your knees to like your chest. All depends on how tall you are, but that's what it's supposed to block from your knees up to your chest. So I could see from your knees, your feet, and I can see your head. So it's really no privacy at all. And it's like it ain't nothing but a little door. I can walk up to the door and open this door at any given time while you're in there, you know. And for us to be out here and be laid up into the i'd have been in the tub out here, man, been so relaxed and fell asleep. The only thing I had to worry about is fall or sliding under the water and killing myself by accident. I didn't have to worry about nobody busting in that joint with a lock and a sock or a knife trying to, you know, put that knife in me so hard that I ain't here tomorrow. You know, and this is some things that a lot of people take a take for granted and don't even think that they had to go through this and they out there, you know, they're straddling the fence. And when I say straddling the fence, meaning one foot in the game and one foot out of the game. Or you might be all the way in the game, whether you're robbing, stealing, killing, selling the coat, whatever the case may be. You get to that prison, a luxury is privacy for a bathroom break as far as washing yourself. You do not have that same luxury in prison at all. And then we even gonna talk about well, matter of fact, we can talk about that.

SPEAKER_04

Let me ask you a question, though. I know you mentioned before uh that it has been men who actually didn't have shower shoes, but they shower with their boots on.

SPEAKER_05

Yes, yes, you have men that will shower with their boots on. You what you got burnt-out dudes in there that's doing what they do and they showering with their boots on. Yep, they showering with their boots on. They in there, you know, they got an old pair of uh jailhouse issue boots, probably got the shoe strings out of them. So you know when dudes got them on, they go into the shower. You know what I'm saying? And they in there with the in the why? Because you got better chance with something, you know, with something on your feet that you got some some give to you can get around better than a slip. You know what I'm saying? And I've seen a lot of dudes get their issue, and what I mean by get their issue meaning get with get get get violence uh symptom they weigh, whether they beat up, stabbed, or whatever in this shower, man. In that shower, that's one of the most vulnerable times that you have in there. And besides that, uh uh uh we're talking about the privacy of a shower, right? Just imagine getting locked down now. Let's let me just let me tell you how it is now. Now you lock down, say the jail won't lock down 20, 30, 40, 50 days, or even the whole. Um you're you have to take a birdbath in your cell. They don't give you showers for like four or five days, one thing, four or five days. So you'll have to birdbath in your sink. Now, for me to birdbath, I got to, you know, either have my shorts on or whatever. I might be one of them boys that might want to get naked. So then the whole process is this. I'm gonna take my sheet, which I sleep with at night, and like hang it from a hook in my cell, like tear a hole in the little corner of it, hang it from a hook in my cell, and pull it all the way across and hang it like on a bunk bed. So now I'm creating my own little partition already in this little ass cell. The cell is already little, but yay, big. Now I didn't cut it in half because I got a sheet obscuring the view of me and my celly. So now I'm over here on the other side of this sheet washing. I'm holding myself with the sink and all that. You see juice, look me, uh little water specks going into the sheet because you know you got a wet rag. So you know you use this, ain't a shower, it's flying all over everywhere. Now I'm over there on my bed. Yeah, me and you over there washing. All I hear is water keep running, and you squeezing water in it, but you gotta do because I'm next. Yeah, and you come from behind the curtain and you done, I'm going back there, and I'm gonna do me then. Now you sitting on the other side of the curtain. The only thing that's blocking me from seeing you ass naked is that she that's it. That's why I say the little things that people take for granted, such as going to a shower and having that privacy. Like, you don't be having a good private, like you get your thoughts together in the shower early in the morning, man. Like Prime Waking up going in, you might gotta take a smash real fast, get off that joint, you got your water running for the shower, you jump right in there, you just letting the water just without nobody around you or nothing. But imagine you gotta be on guard because the blacks is going to war with the Spanish, and the Spanish, like, yo, get any black you see. You on call, you on deck, you on you a plate or you fool because of your skin color. You ain't had nothing to do with the altercation that took place, but your skin color. And a lot of people take that for granted of just certain privileges. It's a plenty of privileges that a lot of people take for granted being in society versus jail. But the shower is a major, major take for granted, man. You sit back and be like, damn, man. Wow. Not only that, the talk about the shower shoe issue. Like, you don't get in the shower with shower shoes on out here, do you, Fee? Uh, only when I take trips. Oh, you get in the shower with shower shoes on?

SPEAKER_04

When I take trips like that.

SPEAKER_05

Well, I like to call that bougie, but I yeah, but go ahead.

SPEAKER_04

No, I'm saying certain places like go. Like, if I go to like out of the country, I take I take shower shoes because you just you just nothing. In the shower with the shower shoes? I put it, yeah. I take shower shoes, yeah. Oh, but yeah, you probably want to. Only because I, you know, you can you can get stuff like uh what's that jumping?

SPEAKER_05

Uh what's it called? Mercer. Is it mercer? Mercer ain't them hotels. I'm quite sure you're getting a nice one. If you get that, we get the bag.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, but I like that, yeah. But then I mean, what you like? I'm just saying, I like to protect myself. But some places.

SPEAKER_05

But but normally at a shower at your house, do you talk about your home?

SPEAKER_04

Nah.

SPEAKER_05

Or you getting in the shower with your shower shoes.

SPEAKER_04

No, but if I use your your um, if I was at your apartment and use your shower, yeah, I would probably use shower shoes.

SPEAKER_05

No, you ain't got to use no my my my my that porcelained all out. But listen, that ain't even the case I'm talking about is when you when a lot of dudes come home from prison, you gotta break out of them shower shoes. It feels it still feels foreign to me getting in the shower with my raw feet. I've been getting in the shower with shower shoes for 21 years straight. You stole my um the hell with all that.

SPEAKER_04

I've been I think about stuff like stuff be missing. Like the other day I came to your apartment. You had my um shoes.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, they was there on there. Yeah, my slippers. Yeah, yeah, I that was a good steal.

SPEAKER_04

You was talking to me, I'm just saying, look at you with my slippers on.

SPEAKER_05

Yes, you then but now you know it ain't it ain't missing. It's it's get being properly used. But now to continue on, uh think about the shower shoes that just engraved into the convict mind. He's home, he's out here in society now, uh trying to get his life back. Certain things you just get gonna shake right away. Yeah, like that's be that's a fill 20. Imagine taking a shower for 21 years straight with shower shoes on. Straight. Don't nobody never get in that shower or with just regular feet ever. Dudes is in there coming, peeing, taking a poop, everything in the shower. In the shower? In the shower. You'll get in there and see piles of poop in the corner. Yo, man, somebody come clean the shower, who just and niggas be looking for who was in the shower last to try to beat him. Why wouldn't nigga do that in the shower? Man, nigga, you got that man, you got horrible dudes in there, man. Prison is the worst of the worst. You talking about like like you're dealing with a civilian. So it's feces in the shower. It's feces. Well, how many times you want to ask this question, bro? You always turn me up. It's dookie, feces, whatever you want to call it, in the shower, in the corner. Yes.

SPEAKER_04

And you picked it up and moved it up.

SPEAKER_05

No, I never did none of that. I opened up the shower and see it and then start making a hoop, a hoop-ra around here. Somebody get their man's or something, man. Who did this, man? That's terrible, man. Yeah. So that's why you would never get in the shower in prison with regular feet.

SPEAKER_04

But I heard they got that like an automatic in there. Because you heard you heard um we had the young bulls up here, and they said that that's a weapon. Like, that's a weapon for people that they they they just go in their hands. So it to be in the shower to do that is nothing.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, it's nothing. Yeah. That's just terrible. You got dudes, yeah. So, you know, but the the the main thing that I wanted to talk about from the drive was just the importance of the privacy of a shower. Like a lot of us, you know, we take that for granted. Like, a lot of people, a lot of people ain't headed to prison and stuff like that, but they don't know that if you ever go there, that thing will be that privacy that you had when you was in the bathroom is gone.

SPEAKER_04

But you know, like yeah, in Saudi Arabia, like when you make um hydra umra for those who have gone, their bathroom system is set up a little different. When you go over there, they got like a it's like a hole in the ground. Yeah, I mean they got they got the uh the the uh traditional toilets, but over there they got a hole in the ground, it's a shower, so you can go to the bathroom however you gotta go in the hole and shower at the same time.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, I ain't with none of that.

SPEAKER_04

I mean I ain't with it. If it's designed for that, I wouldn't, I don't think.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, but I ain't yeah, I just mean you getting that nah no that's not how it goes, bro.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I just I just I just could I just couldn't do it. I just I just couldn't do nothing like that. But for me, understanding like prison is is is a is a is a doggy dog world is the different from being in society, I understand that you might run across anything in that shower. Yeah, you might come in there blood, see, see everything two men in there, the same thing. Yeah, all that.

SPEAKER_05

I mean, yeah, all that a guard, a CO in there with a shower is the that's the boom boom room. The shower rooms is usually labeled as boom boom rooms. And if you don't know what boom room room boom boom room is, uh go back and watch life. And they made the boom boom room anything. Boom boom room. Yeah, anything that they wanted to debate. It was Brian Boom Boom Room. No, no, no. I ain't had a boom boom room. I might have attended a room or two, but I ain't had one of my own.

SPEAKER_04

You attended the room, like the boom boom room?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, yeah. It might have been a whole bunch of, you know what I mean? A whole bunch of you got different boom boom rooms. All right, hold on.

SPEAKER_04

What kind of boom boom you was in?

SPEAKER_05

I was in one that I shouldn't have been in it. I was in a room with the whole bunch of drink and all that back in my jahaliya times, which is ignorant, cigarettes and drink and all that. Yeah, I'm in there. What's up? It wasn't like it wasn't like the boom boom, like the what the partying and dancing with your boyfriend. Nah, it wasn't that room. I skipped that door, went to the next door. They got different departments.

SPEAKER_04

Ricky Minaj wasn't in there now.

SPEAKER_05

No, he might have been. He might have been. Not in the room I was in, though.

SPEAKER_04

So but these these places, you know, when you like when you confined into a prison system, it's like people gotta find ways to take their mind outside of the prison system, and then sometimes they go too too far. Yeah. So having way too much fun.

SPEAKER_05

You you already you already know way too much fun. You already know we like to get on them about having that way too much fun. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_04

Now, what else? Now now, as far as because you know, everybody in there, right? You might have a celly and you gotta use a toilet, right? Right. Or you might have to use a a toilet that's outside. And like the dayroom. Is it toilet in the day room too?

SPEAKER_05

You gotta go back in the. Everybody got a toilet in their city. What about the yard? Oh, yeah, there's bathrooms out there, it's restrooms.

SPEAKER_04

Those bathrooms gotta be filthy, right? Yeah. But they keep it, they keep uh orderly on deck, though. So they like wrapping in tissue or something.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They keep an orderly on deck. But a dude really wouldn't be trying to take a smash down the yard unless he really had to. You see, there's a bunch of nasty niggas down there. Not to say that a man can't go in there and take a smash, but a dude to prepare himself right before he goes to the rec yard. Then you only you only out there an hour or move unless something happened on the rec yard that caused y'all to stay out there because the police investigating something. But other than that, every hour is a move. And then when you know you go in the rec yard, you know that it ain't no running back and forth. You know you don't want to take a smash down here because it's open bathrooms, ain't no covering and all that. You just sitting on the toilet and everybody like, yeah, that's Freak over there taking a smash. You know what I'm saying? So a dude will try to make sure he prepares right before he go down the gym or recreation, whatever it is. Yeah, I mean, I ain't never took a smash in no bathroom down the gym ever. Ever. I ain't never got caught out. Yeah, I mean, I'm down there. I gotta take a poop and I'm in the yard. Nah. But they got him down there because you got older dudes in there. They can't hold it, or they might come down there not knowing they had to poop before they got down there, and then they got a poop. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, that's why they got the the tallest down there. Just in case the dude got to use the bathroom.

SPEAKER_04

These situations is like, it's just it's just unfortunate that um, you know, when you when you when you come to these places like that, you have to take you have it's a big adjustment. You have to get really, really adjusted. Now, normally when you're in a county or or or you in a not in the county, but you in the actual like down FDC before you get up to you know your your home jail, whatever, you are already acclimated to you know Big Sandy or wherever you're going. Right. You're already acclimated to the system. You already understand you have the rules, you have the rules and regulations there. Yeah, so you so it ain't really that much of adjusting other than not being around your family. Right. That's it. That's really it.

SPEAKER_05

Because you already, once you come to FDC, you understand No, but it's it changes up from the like I hear you you got a valid point, but that's not you're not acclimated yet. Because FDC, you're basically around all Philadelphia guys. That's pretrial for Philadelphia.

SPEAKER_04

But uh what uh Raoul said he was in Philly.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, but they passing through for transit. Okay. I know I know that was a transit facility. And then a lot of dudes, yeah, it's a transit facility also. Okay. I mean, like, say if you gotta go to a jail in the Northeast region, which is you know what I mean, all in Pennsylvania area, the Western District of Pennsylvania, or excuse me, the Eastern District of Pennsylvania, you had to come through FDC Philly. You go on a Fort Dicks, Schoolkill, Islandwood, you have to come through FDC Philly. That's a transit route. Okay. But the old jail is for pretrial for Philly niggas, whoever's catching cases in Philly, Chester, uh, you know what I mean, you know, Pennsylvania areas. So it's a pretrial jail for, you know, Pennsylvania areas. And damn near you can be tricked into believing that this is how it's supposed to roll. Only how you see the guys, you know, uh talk to each other and all that. You got guys playing, then you go to one of the penitentiaries right at the day, and this is a night and day. You understand? So it's not getting you prepared for nothing. Only thing it's getting you prepared for is being used to being locked up. That's it. It's not teaching you the ways of the jails yet. You know what I mean? Because it's pre-trial. Everybody down there thinking they might go to home. Everybody, a lot of dudes down there, no respect, never been locked up before down there in for their first bid, they down here. It's a game down there. Until they put you on that bus or that plane and send you where you got to go. Then you like, well, dang, I wasn't locked up down there. Yeah, I mean, you right here, all the visits, what, 10-15 minutes away from you? Whether you're in North Philly, South Philly, West Philly, your visits, what, 15 at the most. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Everything is right here. Everything you in the city. It's time to bid once you get on that bus or that plane. And you go into one of them yards, you going to Hazelton. You know what I'm saying? Beckley, you going to uh uh uh uh Gilmore or goddamn Big Sandy and all that. Yeah, it's yeah. Victorville, yeah. Polak, yeah, here they come. All that, all that, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

It's just um, you know, uh just trying to determine the mind state of a person that had that, you know, that just to be in these places and like it just seemed like you you you you don't even be uh normal anymore. The band normal is not even it's not even it's not even like it's possible, man, to be normal.

SPEAKER_05

What to be normal for what? In in jail. You could be normal, but you definitely could be normal, but you got to be ready to be unnormal at the drop of a dime. That's a word. Well, no, well, they know what I mean. You got normal and you got horrible. You gotta get ready to be horrible at the drop of a dime. You know what I'm saying? Because ain't nobody there, like I said, like a person to try you if they think you on some care time. You in there, you you chilling too much, you got to show a little teeth every damn day. You know what I'm saying? Is that and that and and and and and this is not the way of life. This is not the way that life is supposed to be constructed out in society. This is the life inside the penal system. It's a life outside of society. This is what we're trying to, you know, get the audience to see. This is not no same thing. Oh, well, just just like no, this is nothing for the people that have been, they know what I'm saying. For the people that have not been, they do not know what's going on in there. I don't care how many stories I'm telling them, I don't care about how many instances happen. You will not finally see the full effect until you are incarcerated in one of them yourself. It's totally different, bro. It ain't nothing, it ain't nothing like you can fancy. What's the prison in between that? Is somewhere in somewhere in New York? No, no, no, no. Cainan. It used to be Lewisburg. The weather. 200 people watch.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, we apologize, y'all, for the uh inconvenience. Yeah, the weather acting a little up, a little a little bad on us. I don't know what's going on. We should be good now. So uh we back. We back. Um yeah, I just I just I just know that those transits, those um situations with when you're going through the transit and you're moving around, it's always good to see uh like a familiar face of somebody that you that you was already up there with. Right. And normally you try to make that person your celly, or do you, or can you do that? What? Like if me and you was on transit together and I was in FDC with you, can I say, look, all right, I want you to be when we get up here, you can be my celly.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Especially if we land on the same block, but we might not land on the same block. That's the crazy part about it. But if we on the same block and all that, the guards be wanting to keep everything down. They know it's a bunch of people. When you on transit, it's a bunch of people coming from all over the world that don't nobody know everybody, don't nobody know nobody. And then you might, I might, mean you might me and you might not even be cool, but you leaving the same day I'm leaving from the same block. I just know of you because you was on the block with me. But you might be from South Carolina, I'm from Philly. But I know of you, you was a cool dude, but I didn't run with you. But we leaving together, that's what makes us homies now. Us knowing of each other, because now we're going around a bunch of people that we don't know nothing about from all over the world. So me and you uh build a friendship off of us just being on a unit together for six, seven months, but we never intermingled with each other, but we've seen each other every day when they opened up the doors. Yeah, you understand what I'm saying? You already you get what I'm saying? That's crazy, man. This is the life, man, that a lot of people unfortunately will have to go to, man. And it's sad, man. Uh, we're up here to bring you these uh uh uh uh stories, man, and these facts from these jails, man. Hopefully, man, this could deter you to go the other way because you know, again, like my brother said, we're not up here glamorizing jail. We're not up here saying it's a baggage of honor if you had to go through there. I'll be the first one to tell you that I've been there all my life. I'm 45 years old. I got about 13 years on the street out of 45 years. I feel like a complete and total idiot. If I could get this, what I'm giving y'all right now back then, yeah, I would have made the I'd have made another turn, bro.

SPEAKER_04

Shout out to uh King underscore 2215 for the donation. Appreciate that. Now, the mind state of you when you get on that bus, right? When you get on that bus, like they you know you got you got your time, your 360 months or 100, whatever my my amount of time you got. Um, what is you shipped out what 30 days, 60 days before that?

SPEAKER_05

What happened there?

SPEAKER_04

Had to get your time.

SPEAKER_05

Oh yeah, it'd be yeah, you gotta go go go through a designation process.

SPEAKER_04

Do they do you know when the bus is coming to get you?

SPEAKER_05

No. No. You don't say if you say if you know where you're going. Like, say if you get designated to Victorville, California. The guard tells you, yeah, you designated, you designated to California. You know that you gotta go to Harrisburg Airport. So every Monday, a bus will leave out to go to Harrisburg Airport.

SPEAKER_04

It's like that that feeling reminds me, like, I mean, just thinking about that, you know how you in line to get on a roller coaster. Right, right. That's what it seemed like you. You next and your heart beating, you don't know what's going on. Yeah. That's what it seems like.

SPEAKER_05

I would pretty much equate it to that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

That's what it seemed like. It's like you waiting to go on a like a thrill ride, but it's like it's gonna be this ride gonna be filled with a bunch of unknowns and hardships for those who never traveled before or been in transit in prison. Because our art, the normal person who goes to the prison, their transit is from the district to the county. Nah, it ain't like when you're traveling along. No, but they got no, we're talking about with the state. This like I'm talking about the city. Normally a person gets trans. Nah, you get you get you get arrested, you go to the district. Yeah. Then you get trans, then you get sent to the county, CFCF. But now it's levels to the trend to the transit.

SPEAKER_05

No, but the state do the same thing because after you're done with playing with them, they send you to one of these state jails.

SPEAKER_04

But then you go from the county jail, CFCF, whatever, and then you go to uh Phoenix or other places.

SPEAKER_05

Dallas, they got far jails, 12 hours away in Pennsylvania. Oh, yeah, it's the same thing. Same, same thing. You got and then when you get sentenced at in the state, you got to go to a designated jail. You gotta go to Camp Hill or Phoenix now to get classified of what jail you may go to. That ain't just stop. That's just a transit route.

SPEAKER_04

Yo, and in the feds, do they um like say for example, you ain't get that many visits down FDC? Because I know in the state, they they'll place you a certain place depending on. Depending on you if you ain't getting no visits. If you ain't gonna visit, they heard they send you a little further out.

SPEAKER_05

Is that well, they but you know, they just classify. See, what they supposed to do, they came over the law to keep you within uh 500 flying miles of your home. You know, sometimes they go over that, they don't listen to that, but they're supposed to keep you close to you. They try to do that where they don't sever the ties of family because it's a hardship on a family when you all the way across the country to come see a loved one. So they're they'll try to work with you, keep cool. They'll start shipping you far out, and the feds is when you get in trouble. When you get in trouble, you start doing you got kicked out of this jail, you got kicked out of this jail, they look to see where he's from. Where he from? DC? All right, send his ass to California, send his ass down south, send his ass to the Midwest. That's the thing that's different from the feds. I mean from the state. The state just sending you to Pennsylvania somewhere. Feds sending you all over the United States of America. The United States of America. Yes, that's exactly what I said. The United States of America. This is where the feds will send you to any location that they have reserved as a penile institution, and you can be there if you're a federal inmate. Wow. Wow. Yeah, that's that's crazy. Yeah, they got jurisdiction, bro. When you're dealing with them feds, and a lot of these dudes going, a lot of these dudes is catching these Rico's and all these young boys is running around and firing stuff up for whatever reason it may be. I'm not knocking y'all, I'm not seeing y'all wrong and fools because I too came to the city.

SPEAKER_04

You're not saying that, you're not saying that's foolish?

SPEAKER_05

No, but no, because if a dude thinks he can stand on his own work, all right, cool. All right, just know this is coming.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I think it's foolish.

SPEAKER_05

Okay, well, you you know, everybody's entitled to their own opinion. I don't want to, you know, I never know what it's about. You just did it, and then you gotta deal with your consequences. I think it's foolish when you did it, and then you telling, then you rhyme, you you crying, and you sniffling, and it was Bob with you, and it was Jim with you. You a fool. Now it's foolish.

SPEAKER_04

That's why I say the reason why I say it's foolish um is because at the end of the day, you know, is it really worth it? You know what I'm saying? Just look at not to keep not to keep bringing it.

SPEAKER_05

So you keep seeing we've been right through that. You keep it.

SPEAKER_04

But it's not worth it, man. At the end of the day.

SPEAKER_05

But but you know what? This is where we bicker at because you made a statement. Hold on let me go. You so far we're away from reality now because of this hope, because of the success you've seen of grinding, grinding. Nah, man. And hold up, listen, of grinding. So you it's easy for one to leave it alone. You got two sides of the feet. You got a person that's trying to obtain the goodness of grinding, they ain't got no help, they ain't got no support. And then they go out and do some dumb shit, and you'll be like, why you do that? He could have just I understand that. That's that is you're right. But the man ain't got nothing, and ain't nobody giving him nothing. Then what?

SPEAKER_04

All right, well, we got to put his lines in the back.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, we do, but you gotta still get up.

SPEAKER_04

But the reason I'm gonna tell you why I think it's foolishness. I'm gonna tell you why. We're talking about we're talking about the aspect of the of uh what we see now nowadays.

SPEAKER_05

Well, if they run around shit, that's foolish. Yeah, that's you're made.

SPEAKER_04

That's foolishness. That's foolishness, and then even at the end of the day, even I'm I'm just saying, I'm not saying it because um of whatever you I'm the reason why I'm saying is because the effects that it has on not only yourself, your community, everybody around you, it's and to me, I'm looking at the overall picture of it, and I'm saying that it's foolish to go out here and do that because at the end of the day, it can lead you to getting kill or going to jail because of the consequences behind it.

SPEAKER_07

Right.

SPEAKER_04

So, therefore, that's why I say, along with the other, that's why I say that it's foolish if you really stop and think about it, because nine times out of ten, when somebody gets caught for selling drugs, killing, robbing, the first thing they do when they go in front of the judge is, yeah, you know, they're trying to find a way out. You know what I'm saying? So that's why I say, you know, I mean, you might want to just think about that initially. I agree with you, I agree with you before you do it because it's a foolish act. It's not a, it's not a it's not a well-thought-out act. It's just something you just did because you could you you was feeling the pressure of a circumstance. You know what I mean? So ultimately, a circumstance a lot forced you to go into do something that was foolish. Now you lost your freedom, and in some cases, you may lose your life.

SPEAKER_05

Man, in a lot of cases, you're talking about some cases, it's bad, man. I want to get into a couple of things that I found, man, over the weekend, man, that was kind of like it was disturbing to me, man. So I wanted to share it with the family, man. You know, and I want to apologize, man, for you know, I like to use my words wisely up here, man. You know, some things that you could say, and I might be meaning one thing, and a person might take it out of context. Like when I say, man, I want to thank my fans. And I think fans sound rather like some groupie type time. Y'all ain't fans, man. Y'all supporters, man. Y'all supporters of a cause that everybody wanna see get right, man. Don't nobody want to see no 15, 16-year-old young boys chasing each other down the street and gunning them down. So now you get on to something that you like to hear. You're not a fan, man. You're a supporter, man, of that movement, man. So if I offended anybody with the fan comment, it's just me talking and getting the, you know, getting getting around. We see we coming along from where we started from and where we at now. You know, that's something that I want to take out of my vocabulary. Ain't no one never said nothing to me about it. But y'all not fans, y'all family, man. Y'all help and support for us to keep on going, you family. You're never a fan. So I wanted to clear that up.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. Shout out to uh C Dollar Bills for the donation. Appreciate that, man.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, we could been getting a lot of donations, man. Thank you, man. Help support the keepers out of court. Shout out to Oldest Rider. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_04

But you know, it's just sometimes it just when you're in the moment and you're back against the wall. I understand how the thought process is like, man, I gotta do something. But if you stop and think about it at the end of the day, it ain't really worth it. It ain't worth your freedom, it ain't worth your life, it ain't worth your losing everything behind a rational, I'm sorry, an irrational decision.

SPEAKER_05

Crazy. Now here goes one that I want to bring up right now with a man did. I wanted you to tell me if he was out of pocket or not, and I'm gonna tell you. Man was released after serving 11 years in prison for refusing to reveal the location of over 50 million in gold found in a ship lost 131 years ago in the Atlantic near South Carolina. Okay. An Ohio treasure hunter, Thomas Thomas, 73, in present for ref in prison, excuse me, for refusing to disclose the location of gold recovered from an 1857 shipwreck, has been released from jail. He was sent to prison in 2015 after declining to tell a federal judge, his attorneys, and investors, where he had stored a collection of gold coins in bars recovered from the SS Central American dubbed the Ship of Gold, which sank in a hurricane in 1857 off the coast of South Carolina while carrying roughly 15 tons of gold from the California Gold Rush. In 2005, Thompson was sued for allegedly selling approximately 50 million of gold without compensating the people who had helped him.

SPEAKER_04

I mean, I'm not I probably wouldn't tell nobody either. How much time did Jill Tommy get?

SPEAKER_05

He did 11 years. He did 11 years instead of telling the woman.

SPEAKER_04

How much how much is it worth? 50 million. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Well, what year was 50 million?

SPEAKER_04

And he knows where it's at?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, he got it.

SPEAKER_04

He got he came home to it too. 11 years 50 million.

SPEAKER_05

Man, give me a dub hide that 50 mil. If they could tell me a dub behind 10 years, yeah, that's 50. Bro, come on, bro. How about doing that? Oh yo, I'm shutting down the we shutting down everything. We shutting down all the we out. When we out, when we get over there.

SPEAKER_04

You might not make it out of there, bro.

SPEAKER_05

I'm 50. He home, he made it, he made it. He older 72 years old with a 50 ball. Let me know, Fed. Let me know, audience. The feds let me know.

SPEAKER_04

The feds watching that man, man.

SPEAKER_05

Man, regardless, he he he wouldn't did it, he paid for it. He paid for it. He did his time, did what he had to do, and the boom, he intact. 50 million. That man said, I don't know where he's at and went and did 11 years. Would you do it? Would you do it? All the conditions that I explained to you thus far about what goes on in prison and a lot more heinous things. Could you not tell authorities where you hid$50 million and go do that 11 years? Me, I'm gonna go ahead and do that 11 years, man. I'm gonna take one for my team, for my homies, for my brothers, for my sisters, for my friends, for my girl. I'm taking one for me. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

I come home, my daughter's grown.

SPEAKER_05

Man, I ain't worried about that. They're gonna be good and grown. Big old how everybody. Oh, yeah, I did it. I took one for the team. That's how y'all say take one for the team. That's one ticket for the team. 11 years for 50 million.

SPEAKER_04

Would y'all would y'all do 11 years for 50 million dollars? That's over a million dollars a year. That's most five, almost a little about a little less than five million dollars.

SPEAKER_05

Would you tell me?

SPEAKER_04

Nah.

SPEAKER_05

You I see that again.

SPEAKER_04

I might again again. No, no, don't do that.

SPEAKER_05

It's a reason why I can't ask this man again. Me, nigga, give me a W Ske no. Give me that 50 million. That 50 ball Jamal. That's what I call it. 50 ball jamal.

SPEAKER_04

You'll go in there, kick your feet up.

SPEAKER_05

I'm going in there kicking it in. I can write checks to people. I'm right. You want them right inside, running a little tall feek and all of them. Yeah, man. All y'all get a mil a piece, huh? Man, go ahead, man. I got what 44 left of you. I'm cool. I'm cool. I get with y'all when I get there. Do something with it. But listen, the reason why. Give a little head start feet, you go little five, man. Give me about 10 billions. Yeah. I see y'all in 11. Book some super small soups everywhere. Yes. Give me that 11. Give me that 11 ball Jamal for that. That's a nice trade in. But maybe if I wouldn't have done, maybe, and I'm gonna speak for the people that never did time that's looking at me like I'm an absolute fool. Cause I understand that I sound like a fool. And in my mind, I'm like, man, but I just know I did it and I can do it. I can do it. Probably not now. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Not now. This old age, this big age, 45. I'm headed to the grave. You 55, get out. I don't know, I might try that one.

SPEAKER_04

You know, good old, good old.

SPEAKER_05

They tell me whatever, whatever uh if I do half, I can get out with half 25 of it. I don't know that 11 ball, Jamal. Man, I might go in there and do that right now.

SPEAKER_04

Come on, come on with you 55. You do that? Yeah, it's gonna ooh, you might you might even.

SPEAKER_05

I'll be seeing the minute in the 55. Like they 25. No, I know how to mind my business and stay out the way. I know how to bid. I know how to bid. I know how to stay away from that 11 ball. He can't. Let me know, audience, what y'all doing, man? 11 years. Would you turn over the 50 million dollars in gold that you're you can sell easy and get right off, so it's 50 million dollars for you, or go to jail for 11 years. This man just did it. He went to jail for 11 years, did not tell authorities, came home 72 years old.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, man. I ain't I can't do it.

SPEAKER_05

See, I can't ask you the question. That's you, kid. It's a kid. I'm loving a group chat family, man. Everybody wanna love 50 million. I'm loving a group chat family. We damn near up to 300 people watching right now, man. Hit them like buttons, subscribe, man. You know, if you want to become a member, that's how you see the full episode for everybody to keep telling us to drop the whole episode. It's a method to madness, fellas. We've been doing that for the first eight months, giving y'all un you know limited content at a warming rate. You know, now it's time for us to, you know, chop it up, bag it up. I would say back in my jahaliah time out in the street, and you know, six dollars a month, man. Dollar fifty equates to a dollar fifty, dollar twenty five a week. Say you support. Let's see the support, man. Keep us out of court. Shout out to Oda's rider.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, and another thing though, I want to say this for people that don't know. We got a little Woody this week. His name is not on duty for real. Yeah. His name is. Here you go. Here you go. Here you go again. That's my guy. You know, show love out there in Atlanta. Episode drops this week. Check it out. You know, if you're not a member, become a member. You can watch it. It'll be, you know, live in effect. It's a crazy, it's a different side of uh Lil Woody.

SPEAKER_05

Guaranteed that, you know, for all of because he did have an abortion. I'm not gonna sit there and say, Yeah, I stand on all man facts. And how we use the word abortion in the feds is, you know, a person that woke up one day and was like, man, I'm gonna go cooperate. You go over there, get in the building, they start asking questions, and then you get cold feet. You back out of it. You had an abortion. You went over there with the intent.

SPEAKER_04

You never had one of them?

SPEAKER_05

No, I never had one of them. Stop playing me before we get to doing something about it. You already know I'm dying. I'm already a little mad at you. Never had you. You would have been the first one to know if I'd have had one.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I gotta ask though.

SPEAKER_05

But yeah, you gotta do that.

SPEAKER_04

Sometimes people have abortions or or or uh and then nobody knows, so I gotta ask.

SPEAKER_05

No, but yeah, but uh he did that, you know, he backed out of it. He didn't get nobody convicted. He stood on whatever charges they gave him, whatever. But uh, we had a real decent interview with uh Lil Woody, man.

SPEAKER_04

And uh real emotional interview.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, it's going it's gonna touch. It's going touch. I know y'all probably seen thousands of Lil Woody. He's tearing up the internet right now. Um, keep on, you know, I shot him out, keep on doing what you do, man. But uh, y'all gonna have a probably another perspective, I think, anyway, from this video. A beautiful video that we're gonna bring you at an alarming rate.

SPEAKER_04

Yo, um, let's let's talk about that abortion thing, right? You know, uh, and that's like people who who walk down, walk down that path and then they they're Yeah, they backed out.

SPEAKER_05

They backed out, they got over there, it got too much for them. They seen it was real, they got to sign their name on statements. They know this paperwork is going back to the man that he's testify, he's going to testify against, that he did write statements on. So the gig is up. Because you can't be a quiet teller, you can't tell them that they let you know no, you got the right to face your accusers, so that's why they get the paperwork in the jinx material, what they call it in the feds. So people's gonna know once you sign off on that. And then a dude would get over there and be like, ah, I can't do it. But you still went over there. Why did you go over there? You had the intentions of doing it, but somehow you couldn't you couldn't close the door on it. All right, cool. Granted, you didn't tell on me. You did not tell on me, but you still went over there with the intentions of doing it. You thought about it. So yeah. So I don't even know how the kid takes you now.

SPEAKER_04

Now, with these abortions, though, or uh, or uh like in the feds where that's profit hearing, right? Something like that.

SPEAKER_05

Well, similarly, no, no, that's more than a profit hearing. You told with a oh no with an abortion, yeah, yeah. Yeah, with abortion, you could go over there, have a prophet's hearing and all that, and then back out. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Now, when somebody goes on the stand, right, and they go up there to testify, right? Right. And they go up there and do like like like something like what little Woody did. They he was like, he wasn't, he was, um, wasn't cooperative with the actual Yeah, he was unruly.

SPEAKER_05

He threw the whole case off.

SPEAKER_04

You see them all come home. Can that backfire on on the person who go up there and say one thing and then go up there like that? I don't remember saying that's a whole thing.

SPEAKER_05

Well, only thing can backfire, they won't give you the deal that you was they they they they agreed to you with. But does it but also now that helps the person case? Yeah, the one that's fighting the case. Yeah, you're goddamn right. The government is putting this person on the stand and he getting up here acting crazy. And how often is that that somebody do that? Um, it happens a few, it happens quite a few. Not like a person uh going all the way through with the cooperation, but it does happen.

SPEAKER_04

But the one who who does that on the stand, he's he's dead to rights. If you go up on the stand and do that, that DA gonna try to cook you.

SPEAKER_05

Yes, yes. You you you know, you're going to get cooked. You're going to get cooked. Yes. So he gonna, he gonna You might have been facing 20 years, you know. They could y'all came up with an agreement, man. You do a little seven if you cooperate, and then you go up there. That dub and some change gonna be back up there for you. Yeah, they and then they're gonna try to backdoor you because you played with them. Oh, yeah, especially in the feds, man. That's a they they're they're a juggernaut, man. They're good at what they do. Why do you think they got so many dudes in there with calified letters or months, I should say. You know?

SPEAKER_04

That's crazy because at the end of the day, you might you might have gone up there and and and wanted to do it, and then it got to the trial. You come out there and there's a whole audience out there, everybody sitting there. So it's like you're walking into a football arena.

SPEAKER_05

Exactly. Everybody looking at you, the lights, the cameras. You'll change your mind right there on the spot. Cameras is-I can't go through with this, man. You already like I I I feel, I believe, and I could be wrong, just because it's my opinion, don't mean I'm a right, but it's still my opinion. I believe when you when you get to to the to the to the point of where as though you knew you and a person was breaking law together, y'all caught now for whatever law you was breaking. And you get to the point that you want to do that, it's an embarrassment that comes with it. You be in your mind, like, damn, I never thought about telling a person, but if I was to I would feel embarrassed. It's an embarrassment. It's something that you if you feel like, damn, I'm doing some piece and piece of crap stuff right now, man. Me and this man both went, yeah. Or I might even call him on the route and he came with me because I know he and my my man, he a gag. But now we caught now. I want to tell you you definitely feel some cowardness in your body, if not a lot. A coward know he's a coward. You don't sit there and be oblivious, like what I do wrong. Uh, I was just no, you know you was out of pocket, bro. And some dudes don't even care. Yeah, it's just that don't care because the jail, the jail overruled everything. I'm not going in there for 30, 40 years. I'm sorry. I know I shot that gun. I know I stole out that store. I know I robbed that Banks truck. I'm sorry. But man, I ain't trying to go in there. Ain't nobody trying to go in there, man. The toughest of us all ain't trying to go in there, man. The toughest dudes in there with the biggest gorilla suit on, man. Them niggas want to come home and live life, bro. Them niggas don't want to be up there with four or five knives on them, shit wrapped around them, five hoodies on, just to keep some cushion on them and the night can't put it. Them dudes would love to get out here, man, and live a law-abiding citizen life, man. You go talk to these dudes that got 20, 30 years in, man. Them dudes that cried to you outside of the cell, man, just by getting the your your your outlook and your the way you think and your conversation right now, you, the tall feep you are right now, to one of them men in there is a breath of fresh air, bro. Them niggas is in there hearing men holler and scream and debates and dominoes slamming cards all day long, and that's it. Oh, imagine hearing that all day, every day for the rest of your fucking life.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, it might drive you a crazy yeah, and like and and and now you see why people can't handle it, and they go up there and they go and they go become a witness. Exactly. And that is that's our that's in that's not even before you get up. That's that's an FDC. Yeah. And FDC is is crazy. I I was down there, down there one day walking past FDC.

SPEAKER_05

Somebody probably was banging on the window.

SPEAKER_04

I heard it sound like they was outside or something up there.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, yeah, it's rec yards. It's the part where it's the gates, they got the little rec yard.

SPEAKER_04

I heard them screaming and hollering.

SPEAKER_05

They be out there playing basketball or handball or something like that. It's a rec yard. Every unit got a rec yard.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I saw that. Yeah, it was like crazy. Like, I'm like, yeah, they have to screaming and hollering.

SPEAKER_05

Yep, that's the that's the little bit of fun they got when they outside that little rec yard right there.

SPEAKER_04

And a lot of them dudes out there, some dudes tell them that they're playing with dudes. Yeah, so they're all mixed in.

SPEAKER_05

Yes, they is.

SPEAKER_04

It don't really get that that that geographical as far as people point out the rats down there in FTC. No, but they get like that.

SPEAKER_05

They get like that, yeah. Why not? But you can't really really mess with them. No, why not? Why can't you? Ask me. You you making an obscure question? No, you get knocked out down there. You know what I mean? People I seen get knocked out down there, that's where it starts at. There's like the life of horror. Nigga, you going it block the block, niggas know you done told, you get knocked out. It ain't just, you know, you got some dudes that step back off and be like, you ain't tell them nothing, leave it alone. But yeah, that's where it started.

SPEAKER_04

But that's the slogan down there at FTC.

SPEAKER_05

If you done told when I told me to roll whatever, right? Yeah, why do why do 10 when you could tell on a friend? All that other corny weak stuff. Is that tattooed on you somewhere? I mean, I don't know. No, no, I ain't never got that tattooed on me, man. I ain't never seen no man with that tattooed on him or nothing like that.

SPEAKER_04

All right, I just want to make sure, man. What's that tattoo? Oh, it's uh uh was the one you got into deep no way out?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

We get we get that. We was we was kids. When you got that old we got that uh I was about 18.

SPEAKER_05

I was over the county over CFCF.

SPEAKER_04

You got it in jail, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Yep, got that over there in the how was jailhouse tattoos? How is that what is that done with? Oh, this done with chess pieces. Uh is I'm advisor you please if you have to go to jail, please do not get a tattoo, man. Man, you got you got all types. Yeah, but what they do is you know the chess pieces is white and black, and they plastic pieces in the form of a horse or a bishop or rook or pawn. You know how the chess pieces go. A little bit. I just I know how to move the pieces, I just don't have a strategy. But um, but uh, you know, a dude will go get the chess pieces, still them off the chessboard and metal them down to they wax and they use that as ink, like mix Vaseline with it, mix like water or baby oil while it's metal down to keep that liquid substance, but this is plastic. Plastic, and you know, we so geeked up over there to get it tattooed to just be on some bravado. We out our goddamn minds. And the nigga, like I told you, they'll be making, you know, did they make little needles and all that, your brother they plucking you to put the ink in your skin and all that. It's just it's just a wild situation, man. Stay away from it, please. How long tattoo take? Is it painful over there? Yeah, it's painful, it's more painful than the one on the street, yeah. Or some of them be because some dudes then made a tattoo gun out of some clippers and all that, got the needle in it, and they then they nice. They go home. I know some dudes that came home and opened up tattoo shops and is well off, man, financially, man. Of a bit, you got some of the best tattoo artists in prison, man. You got dudes in there getting whole body put. I'm talking about better than these drones on the street. You be like, yo, I'm next. How much you charge for that 400? I'm gonna get my people's to cash up. Your girl, she'll tell you I need you to give me a whole sleeve, whole arm sleeves, and all that. The police will lock you up for that too. That's a that's a writer. Oh, yeah, yeah, hell yeah. With every jail that you go to, you get they they take pictures of one of your tattoos applying coming to a jail. So if you get caught walking around with a fresh tattoo or something like that, that they got the ground that a lot of guards know this is going on, so they'll be like, yo, don't let me catch you getting a tattoo, they'll let you make it. But if it's a dickhead guard, that's a writer. That's a that's a shot. Get you 30 days in a hole. This figuring of the body. Mutilation, they call it mutilation of the body. Yeah, you're not allowed to be running around getting no tattoos in prison. This is prison. This ain't no goddamn parlor or some saline or something like that. But you know, dudes in there doing damn near everything you're doing on the street. Wow.

SPEAKER_04

Wow. It's just it's just so unfortunate that uh, you know, uh, you know, when you when you get to jail, you gotta turn into or you gotta adapt to certain things. But people people wanna want to want to live life and do things. People want to have fun or have or try to try to do things, take their mind off of being inside prison. So they indulge in these things, but people doing it on the streets now. Let me ask you a question. When they when they get in this tat this this like you said, they get sleeves and and stuff done. Is this done inside what a certain cell?

SPEAKER_05

That's uh be a cell with like three dudes around watching out, guarding the door, you know, making a call or knocking on the door if they see the police walking around and they tighten up and everybody acting like they reading a book or something like that. But yeah, it's getting done in the cell.

SPEAKER_04

So I'm saying you got a tattoo a year ago. And do how often do they go check you for tattoos?

SPEAKER_05

No, they don't check you for tattoos as if they so happen to see you walking, you know, dudes that get their tattoos, go out the rec yard, take their shirt off, run the track or something. Guard him, he worked wreck. He probably been there here six, seven months. He knows what you look like. He didn't notice if you got something brand new, especially a big outlandish drone. Them drones be looking fresh, like how you comfortable you just got that drone done.

SPEAKER_04

And they kept coming and talk to you. Yeah, exactly. And they take you to compare the photos with that took already now.

SPEAKER_05

See that you got a new fresh, or take you to medical. They'll know if you got something new on you. They'll know if it's new or old. Yes, they will. And then they'll hit you with a write-up and lock you but lock you, lock you behind.

SPEAKER_04

What is it, like 60 days?

SPEAKER_05

30, about 30 days. In a hole. Loss of privileges. They probably took the commissary for six months. Shit, you can lose some good time for that too.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I'm cool. You too? Yeah. And then you gotta you gotta recover and heal from that joint. What if you get sick?

SPEAKER_05

People get you you can get sick off them joints. Yeah, that's what I say. Hepatitis, AIDS, is people that have got diseases through dirty needles of tattoos in there. Wow.

SPEAKER_04

But that's that's going on. I seen, you know, because you're right, I seen uh one time I saw something where like the inmates got a face tattoo, yeah. They whole face be done.

SPEAKER_07

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_04

In prison. Yeah, in prison.

SPEAKER_05

All this is prison work.

SPEAKER_04

Like, why would you do that, man?

SPEAKER_05

What you mean? Why would you do that? Dude won a tattoo. He won a tattoo.

SPEAKER_04

You said, well, why would you do that? You would never know, man. Yeah, I mean, I um your whole face though. I mean, I never really I saw something. People had like a black face. You know what I'm saying? They face is black.

SPEAKER_05

But you I didn't see that.

SPEAKER_04

Like they had like their face black. It was like a uh like I think like a like a yeah, you were sleeping fake. You you watching two movies.

SPEAKER_05

No, it was a true on the orange is the new black.

SPEAKER_04

It might have been a Mexican. It was something I saw on TV. Yeah, like his new face done. He might have got it done before he went in there though. But he but he was interviewing. Did they do it when you were in there? He was interviewing and his face was done. You know what I'm saying? But the um, but but on the also inside the um inside their what about like piercings?

SPEAKER_05

No, absolutely the only piercings I seen is a bunch of Indians and a bunch of uh Hispanics. They'll get the rock and they little genitals, they get the rock in their penis. The little domino piece in their penis. What? Yeah, I'm saying they get the domino that's real big in jail. Indians and Hispanics, you got some black dudes that did it. A couple of homies went and did it too. They'll get, you know, a domino, a dude that breaks the dominoes in the little pieces that you might want a four-leaf clover. So they'll shave the domino in the uh form of a four-leaf clover and do surgery on you. They'll have your penis in their hands, slit it underneath the head, and put it underneath there and sew it back up. So when it hills, the little domino piece and whatever shape you got it in, is like protruding from the bottom of the head of your penis. So now that is for when you finally get home back in society around your old lady or you get an old lady, it's supposed to be for hitting a spot, a G spot. So a lot of dudes particular that they go the police cracks down on that. They'll lock you up getting them penis, getting them uh domino pieces sewn inside your penis.

SPEAKER_04

No, dude, all right. You gotta go.

SPEAKER_05

Yes, that's what they're doing at a Lorman. A lot of men that's watching this right now know that what I say is nothing but facts. Nothing but facts. The Hispanics and the Indians, the Native Americans are at a Lorman rate. We're breaking the dominoes, shaving to four-leaf clovers, uh weed leaf, you know how the weed sign looks, or it could be a gun, the shine uh the shape of a gun, and they'll just get it uh sewn inside the bottom of the heat of the penis to give it an extra err, a little girth. That's what that's what they're saying is for, but it'll be a man holding your penis and slitting you with a razor and shoving you, showing you back up. Yeah, I'm cool with all that. Yeah, right in the cell, too. You be laying on the bunk bed in the back, oh, they be in there and they be putting the dominoes in each other's uh genitals. Yeah, I'm cool. Yep, but just stay out of jail, man. These are these are not made-up stories, and uh, as you can tell from the comments, that a lot of motherfuckers have heard about this before, then been around the shapes of this type of life. This is what's going on inside prison. So please try to stay out of there, man, as much as you can, man. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm good. I'm good with all that. You wouldn't want to get one? Mm-hmm. No, come home to your body, another man for like 10 years a little bit.

SPEAKER_04

Another man touching your private parts, though?

SPEAKER_05

Well, I'm saying it might be a thing in there, like a that's real cool with you. That what? I wait that cool. How how cool are you to do something like that? But just be like, yo, just you mean you trust me or something like that.

SPEAKER_04

I trust you to do that? Touch my private act.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, well, I don't I don't know. I never knew because you know that that's why I didn't want to do it, because I don't trust nobody doing that with me. A man just like, come on, man. What type of what type of that's he is the surgeon? He is the inmate surgeon.

SPEAKER_04

It's not on duty, man. That's that's that's way out of line. You having way too much front. You know, you're taking you taking way too too many risks. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm cool.

SPEAKER_05

Teddy P, you talk about something not on effing duty.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, not on duty, bro. Yeah, you ain't nobody doing that. Yeah, y'all get to it though, man. You want to get to these phone calls, man. 215-316-4492. That's 215-316-4492, man. Let's let's let's kick it, man. What y'all got? You know, the weekend's over. You know, we headed into another weekend. It's Monday now. We got a little Woody coming up this week for all the people that want to check him out. You know, he's gonna be on the podcast. You know, we're gonna probably get him to call in and call up here for the live and speak to everybody, man, to get everything going. But, you know, what's going on with y'all there? 215-316-4492. That's 215-316-4492. What's up? What's up? Who we speaking with? What's going on?

SPEAKER_02

I'm speaking with Jug.

SPEAKER_04

What's up, Jug? Where you calling from, bro?

SPEAKER_02

Uh, I'm from Chester, bro. I'm from Chester. Black. I want you to I appreciate you. I want to ask the black. Yo, what you really gonna do another 11 years uh 50 now.

SPEAKER_05

Man, do you gotta you gotta breathe when you wake up or when you're doing something, right?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, but you'll be 55.

SPEAKER_05

Man, 55 with a 50 ball on me. My family or me ain't gonna never do nothing again. I'm gonna I'm gonna be the sacrificial man. Lay me down.

SPEAKER_02

I ain't even got it.

SPEAKER_05

I get it, man.

SPEAKER_02

Thanks for the call, and I'm like, Salam.

SPEAKER_04

Tell us what jails we're speaking with. Tell us from the jails we're speaking with today. Two one five, three one six, four four nine two. Two one five, three one six, four four nine two. Tell us the jails we're speaking with today.

SPEAKER_00

I didn't know y'all would leave three. Um, uh appreciate that, man.

SPEAKER_04

You got any questions for us anything before we go?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Yeah. Um if if you know anything about jail, um, it's not worth it.

SPEAKER_04

I respect your opinion, man. Everybody got their opinion.

SPEAKER_00

I'm like you, I ain't I ain't gonna let you it's easy for them to city to do it because they feel mentally accustomed to being facts, big facts. So it's a little easy for them to see to do it than you need money and believe in money too much. Yeah, you wish and a few of them other things, and it's crazy.

SPEAKER_04

I appreciate you, man. Joey tells us the jails. Tell us the gels. What's going on, man? How you doing? Where are you coming from?

SPEAKER_02

I'm calling from Love.

SPEAKER_04

Shout out to L Philly. What's up, man?

SPEAKER_02

Alright, so I got a question for Black. So Black, when when dude is in a pre-trial, the the F the F pre-trial, do they play the card game then? Or do or or is that like enforced once dude gets shipped out and everybody separated? Or are they like geo like in the county?

SPEAKER_05

Like well, well, what FDC is like geo in the county. That don't really get enforced until you get to your jail. But you'll start hearing about stuff in the FDC, like, yo, when you get out of here, man, it ain't just north over here or west over here or South Philly over there. We gonna all have to be brothers and bang together. Like for the dude that you like when you over there, you're gonna see a lot of homies come down that's from Philly that's that that that was already in one of the jails. They might be coming back for writ or something like that. And while they down there, they're gonna be telling the dudes that's pretrial that's fighting their case that never been to no jails how it is when they get to a jail. So, yeah, you are absolutely right. That's how it is.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, and yeah, about that fitting M for the 11 years. Listen, I just need to see the bank statement a day while I'm doing that 11. That's that's that's that's I need some motivation and explain.

SPEAKER_05

So they just they need to come show you what you're ready to go home to.

SPEAKER_02

Hey, listen, I need a hundred thousand little books at all times, and I need to see the account balance every day. That's the only way I'm gonna get through that bid, man.

SPEAKER_04

11 ball. Ooh, man, I can't do that.

SPEAKER_02

But all right, fellas, you good, man. All right, appreciate you, man.

SPEAKER_04

Enjoy your night, man.

SPEAKER_02

All right, y'all, y'all too.

SPEAKER_04

215-316-4492. That's 215-316-4492. Yo, Diesel 18, what's up?

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Bro.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah man, I just I just can't I can't do it, but 11 years come home, kids grown. You might have some money, but money think it might not be able to fix the problems that may that may be there.

SPEAKER_05

I tell you that, boy. I'm coming out that joint like this, like Rick Fox out this jaw. Yes, there's it's up. Anything is up, boy. We is up, boy. I'm coming out that thing 50 to the good. Oh what? Get hit my head. That'd be about checking my head. I'm out here.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. Yeah, I I just can't. I don't know, man. Hey yo, man. What's what happened, James? We talk about man. Yeah, but you know, I just come on, y'all call in 215-316-4492. That's 215-316-449. So we want to talk to y'all before we get up out of here, man. I hear I see everybody in the chat. It's like a little bit of a commotion. You know, let's talk about it. Call in. 215-316-4492. But you know, um, you know, at the end of the day, you know, I mean, we're gonna have mixed opinions in regards to you know, doing time and spending your time. It's always it's gonna always be that because some people will be like, nah, I can do that. Like I said, more tell us from the jails we're speaking with.

SPEAKER_02

Hey, what's up, C L T out of Pittsburgh.

SPEAKER_04

What's up, man? Shout out to Pittsburgh, what's going on with you?

SPEAKER_02

I wanted to holler out. I was sitting here thinking, I miss most of the show I was at work, forgive me. I was sitting here thinking, it's like me and we were selling up uh four days. And we uh we fly five times a day. I think I went three of them. I don't know, but you might be right, but you I can't win them all, but I'm gonna tell you though like uh uh when you when you my bad, when you um when you when you took up for the celly and um end up getting sand for the celly, man, I'm gonna salute you on that man because you ain't had to do that, man.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, yeah, so he was my friend, one of my good friends. I could have just let it go.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna fall back another time, but you just wanna elaborate more on that on what we did that, man. You know, and and and and I might have been able to be something down. I don't see how do we end up stabbing you as I was crazy, but I just keep thinking about that, man. That's that's what I love. Like you ain't had to do that, man.

SPEAKER_05

I'm I'm gonna elaborate about that on I'm gonna elaborate about that tomorrow.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, okay. Yeah, USP, keep up the good work, man. I'm at work, so I'm gonna go ahead and remind the chill when I get off so I can check y'all guys out.

SPEAKER_05

All right, man. Thank you, man, for the support. Enjoy your night.

SPEAKER_02

All right, later, later.

SPEAKER_04

Tell Smith Jails, call in 215-316-4492. That's 215-316-4492. Yeah, man, you know, in jail, man, like you know, like you said, that stab in the shoot that you experienced, you didn't wake up at you didn't wake up that day and thought you was gonna get stabbed. No, hell no. That wasn't on your on your mind. Just like when I woke up, like when I got shot, I didn't wake up and thought I was gonna get shot that day. I didn't know I was gonna get shot. I was going thought I was going in the crib. Yeah that night. I'm like, I might have gone to the crib, I'm away in the house and got shot. So it was like you don't even and when it's happening to you, you all you can do is go into you know defense mode or try to you know stop the you know the violence, if you can, or the or the attack, I should say, you know, get or get away from it either way, one or the other, you know.

SPEAKER_05

My man, my man, uh but the phone line open.

SPEAKER_04

Go what you want to say, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Uh ski ski by ski ski B7U said nine nine out of ten of us ain't gonna have 50 mil in 11 years on the street. I'm gonna take that 11 for the 50 ball. Be that Burpee King, right? What come out here, body and tech anything?

SPEAKER_04

Tell us from the jails we speaking with. Tell us from the jails we speaking with. Uh man, this is real, man. DC. Yo, shout out to DC. What's up, bro? What's going on?

SPEAKER_03

Hey man, man, uh man. I watched y'all show with me and my mom, man. We uh you uh black and you man, y'all, y'all be talking some good stuff on there, man. Uh yeah, I was this the five. I was I was born in ninety four. You know, uh the brother's just in prison. He just come on some whatever yeah, yeah. Like this, you know, my mama always told me about the you know the duels, you got the do the only so uh that was a small story how you didn't like the story you're talking about. Would you want to come out would you wanna say what would you want to do?

SPEAKER_05

What would you want to do if it was you?

SPEAKER_03

You release me on the tree on the understanding, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

We we felt all that's my brother's in a bit of trouble with me.

SPEAKER_03

Uh going away.

SPEAKER_05

Yes, we're okay, yeah, yes, man.

SPEAKER_03

Yes, yes, yes, man. You know, I'm I'm I'm letting other dudes know, hey man, you know, like I said, I've never been, but I got an older brother who's in right now. He'll be getting out with 2028. And uh he he he's been schooling me. Like how it is. He he's just glad I stayed it on a straight earl.

SPEAKER_04

Well, shout out to you, man. Shout out to Mom Dukes, man. Enjoy your night, man.

SPEAKER_03

All right, thank y'all.

SPEAKER_05

All right, yeah. Man, I I really appreciate the audience, man. I appreciate the audience, man. More so than like the the audience. Y'all make me, y'all, y'all not make me, but y'all give me the the edge. Y'all the what they say, give me a uh give me a coffee with a double me anyway, a double shot of espresso. Y'all like five doubles of espresso. I come ahead, man. There's group chat popping like that, the family in tech, everybody got their seat, and we ready to we ready to put boost the lane, boost the lane, and we straight on boost the lane. Thank y'all again.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, y'all calling 215-316-4492, 215-316-4492. Why to get up out of here in a minute, go break fast and chill, uh, you know, and get it in. So with the family and hang out. 215-316-4492. But you know, at you know, at the end of the day, that that that money sounds real, real enticing, you know, like to to the average person, like 11 years. The average person, the average person. I ain't gonna make no five million a year. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, sign me up. You might as well build your own jail, sign me up, put me in that jail, and send me in there to do that time. I'm coming out with that 50 bar, bro. And I got checks for everybody. I'm coming out little two to you, little beam to you.

SPEAKER_04

Bro, 11 years for a 50 bar. Everybody better watch out too. You come out like that. No, they gotta watch out. Nah, nah, nah. I'm be old. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know I know people that's 55 that's young.

SPEAKER_05

Well, the majority of people I know that's 55 is old. I'm living out the rest of my years, man. I'm just, you know, it's for the family. 50 ball for 11. That ain't even no fake, man. That ain't even no guess, man. Send me in there. Fast. Yeah, hold me down. Uh Isaiah Blair said I can't do 11 after five. I heard you turn crazy. Oh, yeah. Well, I ain't turning crazy after no five.

SPEAKER_04

Hey, listen, y'all. If you can um, you know, reach out to us, if you can um become a member, please become a member. You know, uh, you know, uh it's easy to become a member. You can watch all exclusive content as a member. You know, uh if you can't become a member, please subscribe to our channel and be a subscriber. Either way, we appreciate the support. And if you can't uh become a subscriber or a member, uh just share the video or like the video, however you can do it. We definitely appreciate that. Um, we could not do this without y'all. Uh the support has been amazing. From like like like Black said, we look at y'all as family, not fans. Uh family over fans over fans. So we thank y'all for tuning in. Why to get up out of here and uh you know go chill with the family, man. And thank y'all uh for tuning in, man. And uh don't forget, merch is on the way. We got uh Lil Woody this week coming out, not on duty. He's gonna be on the book.

SPEAKER_05

Everybody know what you talk about, Lil Woody, man.

SPEAKER_04

Anything you want to say before we go, Mr. Jackson?

SPEAKER_05

Oh man, it's beautiful Monday, man, going into a Tuesday, man. Oh man, let's keep our heads on straight, man. Let's keep our heads on, keep it uh keep stick to the game plan, man. You know, accountability. Accountability goes a long way, man. It might have been anything, man. Accountability, man, ownership, man, and just staying on business, man. Let's get let's get life what we're supposed to get, man. Get out of life what we're supposed to get anyway, man. And by being in that penitentiary, that's not getting out of life what you're supposed to get, man. I'll be the first one to tell you that, man. You lose so much, man. You just don't lose yourself or time. You lose family, you lose friends, you lose you lose so much, man. So much, man. Kids, yeah. Stay out of that penal system, man.

SPEAKER_04

Stay free, y'all. Stay free.