PAROLE PROBATION VIOLATION : TALES FROM THE JAILS LIVE !!!

The host breakdown the devastation of probation violation.

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SPEAKER_01 5:46

For those who are going to prison and don't know about prison, don't know what to expect, don't know if it's going to be, you know, you know, all these horror stories you hear, all these things. We tell you what exactly to expect. We give you consultation on how to deal with these difficulties of prison. It could be the What's up, what's up, what's up, everybody? It's Tells from the Jails. We're here live in Park Room. TNS Media Group is a team and the family. You already know how we do, man. Tells from the Jails is here. We got a counterpart here. Well, I got Mr. Braheem Jackson, you know, he's aka always in his phone. AKA, you know, uh Love Bug, aka um, I don't know. Trying to get our parole. And then we got um our my guy Dot who decided to come sit on the stage with us today and talk to us, man. Talk to y'all. Um what's going on, man? We got I see I see we got uh you know Corey Woods in there, 10 days, uh PA I'm sorry, P A E, John Michael, as usual 215 Nitro, shout out to you. Everybody that's gonna be in the in the um in the uh chat today speaking to us, man. What's up with y'all guys? How's everything going, man? Youngin, what's going on, man?

SPEAKER_02 6:56

What's going on?

SPEAKER_01 6:56

Make sure you turn your volume down. You know, um for your joint, come on, young. Um but yeah, man, you know, I just know I want to make a make a statement because, you know, like I said, people are making statements saying that we um we are promoting jail. We're not promoting jail, we are spreading the awareness of jail to deter the youth and anyone else out here who's breaking law to stay out of prison because prison is not a place in which you would like to be, because once you're in there, you're stuck in there. What do you say? You suffer.

SPEAKER_03 7:26

Yes, that's all you do constantly, days on in.

SPEAKER_01 7:30

Suffer. You're just suffering in there.

SPEAKER_02 7:32

It's a hell.

SPEAKER_01 7:34

Yeah, man. So, young, I'm I'm gonna ask you a question, man. You know, you're doing the podcast, you know. A couple more days, you be a free man.

SPEAKER_03 7:45

Thursday. This Thursday to be exact, not this Thursday, coming up next Thursday, I will be uh a totally free man from the crimes that I committed in the past.

SPEAKER_01 7:55

Um, and coming up upon this time once when you become a free man and you're getting close to being a free man, let's talk about the uh the slip-ups that happened to because I'm pretty sure people that's got right there right there to the gate, ready to be free, and some things have happened, you know, whether it was a month out, week out, couple days out, what are some of the things you're thinking about that's like I gotta stay away from this, stay away from that, you know? Like what's going through your mind? What's on your when you're mental?

SPEAKER_03 8:25

From my point of view, it's bad company. Because you don't just get no slip up with a month out, two days, two weeks out, and then you slip up. No, you was already doing that. You just got caught at the end. Yeah, man, who's gonna get a month left of a parole? You totally a free man. And not to say there won't be no fools that do it, but that's far a few in between, man. Just straight wake up, two weeks left, all right. I'm gonna sell some dope today. I'm going out here today to do it, and then get caught. Yeah. Like that's something that you already been dipping and dabbling in and got caught at the end of your term of whatever it was that you was serving time for. So, you know, with me is you know, some of the things is just, you know, keeping uh keeping my company, man, keeping my company, the company that I like the company that I have now, you guys and a couple other guys is not up here on this set right now, but keeping that good company around, man, quality good company, man.

SPEAKER_01 9:18

But you dot.

SPEAKER_02 9:19

That's key, having good company around. Like I maxed out December 26, 2025. I was like going to work, coming here, doing all positive stuff, stay out the way. Like I ain't had no bad company around.

SPEAKER_01 9:30

Because you know, like, you know, there are some people that, like you said, you might you might be saying like they um they was been doing what they was doing and they got caught up, just got caught up right right there at the gate when they about to get off. But it might have been somebody who came upon hard times that just say, you know what, man? I'm about to get I'm about to get off. Listen, I got a couple days left. I'm about to just go ahead out here and just try it, or whatever, whatever I'm gonna do, and just get caught up. Well, you're a fool.

SPEAKER_03 9:55

Yeah, he's a goddamn fool, man. You ain't it's that's gonna be next to nothing. Next to nothing. A dude just wake up with two weeks left on parole and be like, and take his chances of selling a dude on the corner then. Oh, a real, you know what? I got two weeks left. I'm gonna borrow it. Yeah, that's what I'm doing after this two weeks is up. Because you don't want nothing to hinder you. Like if you get catch a case, you're hindered in there because you're on parole. That means detainer, you can't make bell. Yeah, regardless if you got the bell or not, you're not going nowhere. I'm gonna wait this two weeks. If I'd have made up my mind to go ahead and do that, I'm gonna wait till that two weeks is up. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 10:30

So but sometimes you know what they say, people be biting at the bit.

SPEAKER_03 10:34

Yeah, but I mean that that's we living in reality, man. I don't know too many, I don't know too many dudes that's gonna do that. Like it's like you over there in fantasy land. You know anybody's gonna do that with two weeks left.

SPEAKER_01 10:44

I'm asking this. I want to make sure that you don't do it.

SPEAKER_03 10:46

No, no, you ain't gotta make sure I ain't been doing it. No, we're gonna keep it. I ain't gonna start doing it now. Yeah, yeah, I had to been doing it already. I ain't gonna just if I get off next Thursday, I'm a free man. I'm trying to hitch a ride with a good friend of mine's to uh Kaaba, you know. No, I don't I don't as of now I don't, but I'm trying to. Yeah, I mean, a good friend of mine. Somebody told me that friend of mine will be in Kaaba. Cabo Ka, excuse me. You know, I don't even know the name of the goddamn country. I'm just trying to go. Get me there, please. Yeah man, just that baby. Yeah, man. I got to get the name right before I even try to go out of the day.

SPEAKER_02 11:23

Tell each other that your feet touch the sand and all that.

SPEAKER_03 11:26

Oh man, these cheeks touch the sand. I'm trying to put these cheeks in somebody's sand. That'll do wake me to stand up and brush them off. I ain't got to use the suitcase today. I'm out here, man. Free at last, free at last. Yes. On sand. You say feet on land, cheeks don't land. I'm out here.

SPEAKER_01 11:47

Well, well, come on. You gotta wear shorts to the beach, bro.

SPEAKER_03 11:54

Yeah, well we're they still on land. Shorts, dry fit, whatever you want to do. I'm out here. So you can drive jump in the ocean, turn to the black moccasin in the ocean. Heavily, heavily out there in them people's waters. Yes. But them people's facilities.

SPEAKER_02 12:10

Yes. This boy is crazy. It's all dice.

SPEAKER_01 12:13

But now, let's go to the other side of it. Getting all probation. No more, you know, no more uh, you know, heavy weight on top of your, you know, your back.

SPEAKER_03 12:24

And that heavy weight is monitoring. A man to be date or uh babysitting for whatever term he has. Like you have to let these people know when you want to leave the city. Uh if uh uh if you move, you gotta let them know that. Change your phone number. Change your phone number. You got to contact them first. They be the first ones to get your number. You're constantly monitoring. You have a microscope over you 24 hours a day.

SPEAKER_02 12:49

Well, you can go back to jail if you change your address and don't tell them.

SPEAKER_03 12:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:53

That's a violation.

SPEAKER_03 12:54

That's a violation. That's a technical violation.

SPEAKER_02 12:56

I changed my address, don't tell my it can send me back to the heavy round.

SPEAKER_03 12:58

That can give you eight to ten to sixteen months just because you changed your address.

SPEAKER_01 13:03

But now, though, what I'm saying now though, you're getting off. You're off. No more none of that. None of your back. No more scrutiny. So now you get to you know, starting to feel like you can just, you know, shit get moving.

SPEAKER_03 13:14

And that could be detrimental too.

SPEAKER_01 13:16

How many people you think got off and then got a new case?

SPEAKER_03 13:19

A thousand of them. Because now you got a free range, because now the average criminal, me, I'm gonna go with it when I was thinking of my criminal ways. Uh, or if I was still applying criminal activity now, not a made it this long and then get caught up, and I'm a week away from the door of being released. Uh, once I'm released from my uh parole or or uh uh uh supervised release as we have in the feds. We don't have parole, we have supervised release. Um my criminal thinking, I'm thinking I got a pass now. I can go ahead and get caught. As long as I got bail money, I'm coming out, as long as I ain't killed nobody where they don't offer me a bell. Any other crime, you're getting a bail for. Yeah. So now my mind, yeah, I can go ahead and put me some money up, man. You know, keep pitting money up. If I do get caught, I can get right back out. Yeah, I got a fresh sleep. So these are the pits that you gotta watch out for for the dudes that you know still thinking about that they might can get away with. They jump over here on this side real fast and try to hop back on the right side real fast. But all in all, you got the is it it could be a trap also getting off because it'll give you a sense of uh freedom, a sense of freedom that you didn't have before, a sense of uh uh uh no caution, like I could do this without worrying about me coming home or not coming home. You understand what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 14:34

Yeah, I yeah, I understand. But when knowing that, right? But it's still something that leads people to want to go ahead and try it because it's like it's like I said, the the burden has been lifted. So now the sense of freedom is like, you know, I can go out here and try and make a little something because now I I'm definitely not going straight to I might go to a district and may go to the you know county or whatever, but I can get a bell. You know, no detainer. Because the the fear of a detainer is real heavy, right?

SPEAKER_03 15:06

Yeah, it's not even you don't even have to fear a detainer because the detainer is gonna be there. You know you have a detainer if you have parole or supervised beliefs. You know, very you gotta have certain case, you have certain uh selective cases that a person might slide through the cracks, get locked up Monday, get his bell, see the judge real fast. The P.O. ain't getting the office in time to drop the dipsy on you, and Dipsy is aka for detainer. Then you slide out, but then you still gotta turn around and answer because once they see it, they be calling you in, like, yeah, come on down here and see me real fast. So you just got a little extra little, you know, a couple hours out into the free world, but you still got a uh uh answer to that.

SPEAKER_01 15:44

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_03 15:45

You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 15:46

But when when people get into these situations where as though they come out and catch a new case, what's the have you the feeling of catching another case after just getting off all how long did you on parole for?

SPEAKER_03 16:00

I was only on parole for about when I came home, 2021. I mean, yeah, 2021. So it's from then to then, from then to now, about five, six years. Well, I had to go back and give them an extra 18 months because I violated, but you know, other than that, it's about four years of parole.

SPEAKER_01 16:19

Hmm. So you did that four years, but I'm saying, like, so coming home and I'm sorry, getting off of that and then just being able to move around and then catching another case, all these things, the the your mind state now that you are arrested in a cell, back in a cell again, it might make you sick. Because sometimes that could be the that could be the kicker to get people get people right, though.

SPEAKER_03 16:39

Nah, it's not gonna make me sick, talk. You over here speaking like you just a old Joe Bluff. I'm an old hardened convict, and for the hard hard convicts, I talk for them too. It's not gonna get them sick. The thing that gets you sick is the detainer. When you commit a crime and you going back to jail and you know your bill$100.$100, you got$1,500 in your pocket.

SPEAKER_02 17:04

You ain't gonna know it.

SPEAKER_03 17:06

That they didn't confiscate. So you got the right, the means to pay you$100 right then and there. But guess what? You ain't going nowhere with that detainer on your back. That's why we say give you a false sense of reality when you don't have that, none of that holding you, because you like, damn, I could go ahead. What you really can shake a little bit. If you don't kill nobody, you getting a bell.

SPEAKER_01 17:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 17:26

Then if you're getting some money, you getting out of jail. But with that detainer, I don't care what type of money you're getting, bro. You ain't going nowhere.

SPEAKER_01 17:35

Yeah, you're sitting tight.

SPEAKER_03 17:36

We got a good friend that recently got locked up of ours, man. I'm not gonna put his name out there. He's fighting his case or whatever. But he was on a case. He was on a case that we had and this and that, and he didn't finish serving his time for it, which was two years house arrest, followed by a couple years probation. They ran this house while you're on house arrest and you know, found drugs and allegedly sent CIs in there to buy. Okay, now he's back in there. But he was serving time from another case that he did. He automatically gets a detainer. He cannot come out of jail.

SPEAKER_09 18:06

Damn.

SPEAKER_03 18:07

So this new case he got, he's in there, and his old case is in there.

SPEAKER_01 18:11

Also, another thing, too, I want to say is about uh parole or pro probation a lot of times. People get, I just saw a situation where they say somebody, if I get if I'm walking down the street to the poppy store, yeah, or any other store, and I get shot, just courting a crossfire. Yes, I'm going to jail. That's a valid.

SPEAKER_02 18:29

That's a valid.

SPEAKER_01 18:32

I came out of my house to go to the court.

SPEAKER_03 18:34

Once they clear through it and all that, and get the we right first and foremost, you're going back to jail.

SPEAKER_01 18:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 18:39

But once they get the sword and through it and all that, well, yeah, he was a store, he was a part of a robbery, or he got shot. All right, let him back out. But until then, that might be six to eight months, though. You used to that ain't gonna be no six to eight months. They get that joint cleared up in 90 days because you're gonna be able to do it. You in jail shot all up. Man, yeah, yeah. You got some ops. Yeah, nobody not saying it ain't a long time, but you're going to jail, but they will clear it up. If you, if you, if it was some shit the wizard, you got robbed and all that, and you weren't a part of it and all that, they cleared that you weren't a part of none of this, and you just so happened to get shot, they letting you out of jail. But like you said, it could be 90 days, and that is a long time, long time.

SPEAKER_01 19:14

Hey, what's the what's the um I'll say this what's the um the most common thing that sent people back to jail? Like, like are this is the number because you gotta list top five things that send people back to jail. Is it women? Is it women, number one?

SPEAKER_03 19:29

No, women ain't number one. What? No, women ain't number one.

SPEAKER_01 19:32

It used to be dirty years, it gotta be women. That's what's the we'll give out the top five things that send you back to jail. Women is definitely in the top five, but what's what we're gonna give them five? Let's give them the top five reasons why you go back to jail. Or why you think why you it can be we can say these are five, these five things but you said the top, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 19:50

I would say the top would be me. The top would be niggas want to get to some money again, man. Majority of the motherfuckers returning because they got a new case out there shaking and baking.

SPEAKER_01 20:00

Okay, new a new case, new case.

SPEAKER_03 20:01

Oh, it's number two. That's a valley that women, women, yeah. Number two, the women right up there with that. That's a close number two, like they damn near top, for real. But I gotta give it to you once some money first, me just being a man, yeah. You know what I'm saying? But women, women and getting some money, they did they the two type things. That's what I PO always suggest is when you come home and we do your home plan, they they'll tell you this in jail when you would check out a woman's house. Don't go because you know that that turned bad. You you know, I have these dudes getting out of jail, they've been in there for a long time, they look good. You mean skin glowing? Nigga could be 60 years old, look like he's 40. Jail preserves you, especially if you was one of the dudes that used to get high and you was a get high boy, whether you smoke a whole bunch of weed or take a whole bunch of pills or whatever your drug of choice was, you was a get high boy in jail. You know, they got it in there, but it ain't on the street like how it is on the street. So you have no other choice but to you know get your shine, your glow, your weight, and all that back up. So now you attract women just by being present, okay. And then your woman who you currently with, living with, parole to her house with, she catch an attitude over a chick looking at you. Talking about she could be in a crowd with some girls, and the girls don't know that that's your dude, but you over there with them, and they be talking around that one girl because they don't know that this is your girl, and they acquiring about you. Like, damn, who the black boy right there? Damn, he looked good as hell. I heard he did all this. She catch an attitude with you over there, they over there talking about you. You ain't over there talking to them about you. She got a whole attitude. Get out. That's uh that's first. Okay, now you out. Now I ain't got no way to get back here in case my PO wants to do a house visit. She might call the PO. Yeah, we would that we say that's first. You mean the PO come? You mean they play the PO game? Yeah, he beat me up or did this and did this. They know that's an automatic changes like him to live here no more. She called in and said he been moved out three or four weeks ago.

SPEAKER_02 21:53

Damn, they call you right down to that building, but yeah.

SPEAKER_03 21:55

Oh, yo, come see me real fast. I got something we can sign off on.

SPEAKER_01 21:58

Sign off, sign your.

SPEAKER_03 22:00

Your ASS off to the Yeah, sign your ass off into the behind this wall.

SPEAKER_01 22:04

All right. Number three. What's number three? So we got we got so we got so we got uh you know trying to get some money. All right what we think we we gotta get the audience five things. We got we got we got two. What's number two? It used to be dirty urns. I say dirty urine dirty urine is number three.

SPEAKER_03 22:19

That's definitely three.

SPEAKER_02 22:20

All right.

SPEAKER_01 22:21

Um what else?

SPEAKER_02 22:23

People ain't even making out the hair rails. Boy, these boys is getting higher than learn about breaking them zone.

SPEAKER_01 22:28

What we say about uh your ability, well, you don't have you you can't you can't find a job.

SPEAKER_02 22:33

Yeah, they really don't send you back for that. Don't send you back for that. They might put you in the hay bells for a breakout. You ain't gonna back up Steve for that, though.

SPEAKER_03 22:39

So back to jail for not finding ain't doing that.

SPEAKER_01 22:41

So basically, we're saying there's only three things that send you back.

SPEAKER_03 22:44

Really is That's the things that I see though.

SPEAKER_01 22:46

Catching a new case, a woman, and a dirty yarn.

SPEAKER_02 22:51

And the top things that send you back to jail. I think that's the only thing that can send you back to jail.

SPEAKER_01 22:55

Well, then we can say we can we can say getting shot. Uh getting shot. Uh what else could happen to you that that could get you to sit back? Like something that just happened to you.

SPEAKER_03 23:06

Like they're the top things.

SPEAKER_02 23:07

You get PO. POs be nutty too, though.

SPEAKER_01 23:11

Yeah, well, stay free, man. Because once you go on parole, like you're walking on thin ice. You have no room for error. And once again, we don't glorify prison. This is just to um explain to people what happens once you get into that that system, it's hard to get out. Like what the what the um what the uh the guy said he um he went back to jail five times for probation violation. They got more time than his probation was. He what do you have? What he had three-year probation? Then he ended up getting like five years out of it.

SPEAKER_02 23:42

And they be taking your street time. Yeah, yeah. They take your street time. That's how I ended up doing the seven years. Top eat.

SPEAKER_01 23:49

How devastating is that? Like what people get they time taken because once you get to catch a case, you lose the case. They give they take your street time away.

SPEAKER_02 23:57

It started all the way back over. It started over.

unknown 24:00

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 24:00

And what is that called again? That's what is it called?

SPEAKER_03 24:04

Violation. They took everything, they took all your street time. That's what they say. It took the street time. Let's run it back again.

SPEAKER_01 24:10

So you go to jail, so you catch a case, right? Get a detainer, go to trial, or you or you might get no, they don't don't give you a bell. So you you sit and fight and you're gonna.

SPEAKER_03 24:18

So you're getting a bell, you just can't make a mail, but you gotta detain it.

SPEAKER_01 24:21

Okay, so you got a detainer, so you can't get out. Now you gotta fight this case from the inside.

SPEAKER_03 24:26

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 24:26

And uh a winner or a loss determines what's gonna happen to you with your back judge. Yes. So a win, back judge, go in front of your back judge, he let you out. Go ahead. If you lose, what happens then? What what what are you at the mercy for for the uh with the judge?

SPEAKER_03 24:40

Eagle volley, give you a hit. He gave you a hit. Whatever he owe you, whatever you owe him, yeah. All right, you owe me four, or give me two of that. We're back up there for two, along with this, whatever you just got booked for two.

SPEAKER_01 24:52

Is it running bowl legged or they run together?

SPEAKER_03 24:54

Bull legged. That's a punishment. This ain't a this is a punishment.

SPEAKER_02 24:58

Like when I curt my gun case, tough heat, I had the two and a half to five.

SPEAKER_01 25:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 25:02

Well, I had five more years on probation. So they took my street time, that's how I ended up doing the seven years. I had to flip over to the own two and a half to five. I ended up doing seven years.

SPEAKER_01 25:11

So street time is like if I came home and I was free for a year. Yeah, and I caught a case, they said, oh no.

SPEAKER_02 25:16

They throwing that that joint back. Yeah, that one.

SPEAKER_03 25:18

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We get let me get that out the one.

SPEAKER_02 25:21

Damn, you had to max out on 20, you max out 21 now. They take that year and put it on the back end. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:26

You take my street time out?

SPEAKER_02 25:27

And you did five years, though, was on the streets. And you throwing that on the back end.

SPEAKER_01 25:32

Wow. So it's not even it's just it's just too many the factors of uh of uh everything is against you, man. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 25:39

You have nothing against you, you have nothing on your side, man. The thing is, the whole thing in a nutshell, man, while we up here and we explain all these topics, these true live topics that's going on right now to the Loman Rate. Stay your ass out of jail, man. For real. You ain't got to go in there to learn how to, you know, be uh respectful and have discipline with yourself or wash your ass. Like I told you, I went to jail and learned how to wash. You ain't gotta go to jail to learn none of that, man. You can learn all that in society, living your life and becoming the best person that you can be in a positive manner. You don't have to go to jail to learn none of these things that we're up here explaining to you. But if you do go, you're definitely gonna learn these things that we're talking about. You're gonna be sitting there saying, damn, sales from the jails ain't do no lying. Oh, and you might say, well, damn, he ain't let me know about this part. Because a lot of stuff I'll be forgetting to tell you. I'll get around to it though.

SPEAKER_01 26:29

All right, now the judge take the street time away. Take all that time away, then he give you a hit. Take this two years and go back upstate. Um, my first it's a two-part question. My first question is how fast do you see people going back to jail? Is it is it like real quick or is it like RP? I'm talking about on average. You might see somebody come in.

SPEAKER_03 26:48

I seen people come back month later, three months later. I see people come back all the time.

SPEAKER_01 26:53

Out of every 10, how many come back within the first year?

SPEAKER_03 26:56

About five. I go ahead and say half five. They got a great great, they got a great ratio. They're getting half of that.

SPEAKER_01 27:03

So out of ten people, five come back.

SPEAKER_03 27:05

Five come back a year.

SPEAKER_02 27:08

To recently.

unknown 27:09

Yeah?

SPEAKER_02 27:09

I used to go always home 10 months, 11 months.

unknown 27:12

One year.

SPEAKER_01 27:15

So you so you so you never got past a year?

SPEAKER_02 27:16

No, I was never getting past a year.

SPEAKER_01 27:18

And they kept taking your um your street time?

SPEAKER_02 27:19

Yeah, they were taking my street time.

SPEAKER_01 27:21

So you damn. That's crazy. All right, now for you for uh the people that that walk back into the because they send you back to your home jail.

SPEAKER_03 27:31

Yeah, whatever in the feds. Okay. When you're in the feds, whatever jail you went home from and violated, you go back to that jail. When you get locked up, they take you back to FDC, but you're going straight back to whatever jail you went home from. Go back to that jail.

SPEAKER_02 27:47

Okay, in the States, they might re-roach. They call it rerouach, they might send you to a different jail.

SPEAKER_01 27:50

Wow. So you walk back on that block. I'm pretty sure you're I'm pretty sure you might. Because you you was on well, you didn't go back to your your jail that you was at, but you went back and went.

SPEAKER_03 27:58

Because I was home for so long that my point, because you still doing custody. Even when you're on parole, you're still doing time. So your points drop and all that. When you stand out of trouble out here on the street and all that, they still got the same uh criminal history and all that points for you, but your stuff drops still, even though you're home. Yeah. But even though you're home and on probation, you're still part of the BOP, which is the Federal Bureau of Prisons. You just ain't on the camp and all that no more, but you're a part of that conduct. So all your points and stuff, that's how I went to a low when I went back for the violation. I didn't have to go back to the FCI.

SPEAKER_01 28:31

So, what are these conversations like with inmates when they like because you've been on both sides of it? So when you come on the blog and people see you like, yo, you back? What was the conversation like? What happened out there?

SPEAKER_03 28:41

You just be, you be, you really don't even feel like talking about it. Yeah, for real, for real. You already mad at yourself. Now he's making you mad because he wanna talk about it. Yeah, I mean, so you you you don't you don't know. What you do? You be just you be embarrassed. You in the way. I know I was. Go back. I seen a couple guys that was at jails, other jails with me. They made it to Lowe's, and then they had like, damn, I thought you won't home black. I'm like, Damn, bro. What happened? This whole thing, what happened? What happened? Now I got to tell this nut-ass story about me getting caught with a gun on some dumb times. You know what I'm saying? I didn't grow up yet, that's what happened. I ain't mature yet.

SPEAKER_02 29:16

I ain't learned yet. That's what happened. And some of them be talking trade. I told you he's gonna come back hitting the hands.

SPEAKER_01 29:23

Maybe he and this is this is a normal situation where people come right back in. Right back in. Now, when you go back to the jail, do you get your same cell?

SPEAKER_02 29:34

No, no, no.

SPEAKER_03 29:35

You might go to a different block. Yeah, yeah. You just going back to that jail. That's it. Anything else is up for grabs. Oh, yeah. Ain't no same cell, ain't no same block, none of that. Somebody moving your phone. What do you mean?

SPEAKER_01 29:49

Everything up for grabs. What do you mean by that?

SPEAKER_03 29:51

When I say up a grabs, meaning like you could it nothing stays the same, but you coming back to that jail. That's it. You probably have a whole nother house, you're definitely gonna have a whole nother housing unit, or definitely a whole nother cell. You're going on that top bunk. Very seldom do you go to a cell and get a bottom bunk because it's gonna be somebody already in there before you. Unless you was in there for a long time and then your celly left, so now you inherit a bottom bunk. See in jail how they play in order to get a bottom bunk, you gotta have a bottom bunk pass through medical. It got to be something like you something wrong, or you gotta have a medical issue for you not to be on that top bunk. Period. Or other than that, you getting your ass on that top bunk.

SPEAKER_01 30:28

What's the benefit of having a top bunk or bottom bunk? What's the benefit?

SPEAKER_03 30:31

Well, you know, some dudes don't be wanting to jump up and down off that shit. Like, think about it.

SPEAKER_01 30:34

And no ladder on that joint?

SPEAKER_03 30:35

Yeah, but that's a hard little some joints that they broke out because niggas making knives off the little step joints, but don't nobody then it's not a ladder like how you think, like a little slate joint and you could crawl. No, this joint straight up is like a real goddamn fireman joint. Don't nobody this hard ass metal. Then when you get up, you gotta slide to the edge of the bead and slide down the ladder. Don't nobody want to keep going through that every day all day. Bottom bunk me. I mean, especially when you're older, then you young boy, you got a little bit of youth in you. You can hop up and down off there, man. That's it hurt now. It hurt. I ain't trying to hop up and down off that joint all day long.

SPEAKER_01 31:10

So that top bunk and that bottom bunk can cause somebody to get locked in the sock or stabbed up over there over there.

SPEAKER_03 31:15

Yes. Yeah, people be gang over them, Joe.

SPEAKER_02 31:18

So hold on.

SPEAKER_03 31:19

If I come in the cell, shout out to uh to Joey's uh Sim Samazi. I think I'm saying it wrong. I'm quite sure I'm saying it wrong, but I'll give you a shout out. You know you is, thank you for the support.

SPEAKER_01 31:31

So this the top bunk is is an issue for people like say I come in the cell, and I'm I'm you know, you know how now I might have did you an apartment one time. Now I remember the time I might have been mad coming off. I'm like, yo, it's not clean in here now, you know. But anyway, you know, I might come into the cell and not like what I want the bottom bunk. And I'm like, yo, let me get, I need to, I mean.

SPEAKER_03 31:54

You're in a fairy town, bro. I'm gonna ask you a question.

SPEAKER_01 31:57

Does this happen? Does people do this?

SPEAKER_03 31:58

No, not that I've seen. I ain't never heard of somebody coming in, yo, give me this bottom bunk. That's some old, that's some wild ass myth shit that dudes make up about jails and you know, try to scare you straight that ain't never been there before. It's a lot of dudes that like the top bunk because if you really want to get technical on the top bunk is is more harder to get to me if you try and bring me some pain. If you try and hit me with that lock and stop or put that knife in me, by you getting up on that top bunk and you trying to hit me while I'm on a is and I can get in a defensive angle and kick that face all day long. So whereas though if I was on the bottom bunk sleep, you got a free range to come jump on me. Now you on top of me while you giving me pain. Like, come on, like, yeah, no, just pause. So you're gonna top me, get me pain. We men, man. We gotta keep going through this every every day. Like, people know what I'm talking about, man. Like every day, we gotta pause it. We ain't up here on a comedy show, man. These men know what we're talking about, man. They know what I mean when I want to get to word that, man.

SPEAKER_01 32:56

Yeah, you ever woke up, woke up with smile on top of you in a bottom bunk?

SPEAKER_03 32:59

No, I never went through that, no.

SPEAKER_01 33:01

Oh, good. I never had to experience that. Oh, yeah? Okay. What about the top bunk? What? Walk up with smile on top of you on top bunk?

SPEAKER_03 33:12

No, I haven't neither bunk.

SPEAKER_01 33:15

Okay. Neither bunk.

SPEAKER_03 33:16

I'm just telling you about the you know the method of the bunk beds.

SPEAKER_01 33:19

All right. Yeah, so that's it. That's just like coming back to the prison, then you then your whole mentality. Do you even want commissary now? Is it take that take that take you a while to get adjusted? I'm back. Your attitude is all, I'm back in here. What's your what's your your mental like? Like you just think, are you disgusted?

SPEAKER_02 33:37

You right back on jail mode, boy. You back on yeah.

SPEAKER_03 33:39

You're right back on jail mood. You better. You just left out of there. You oh you you mad because you ain't on the streets no more, but it's easy for you to acclimate yourself. You just was here. You one of the ones that keep running and out this damn door like it's going out of style. So it's nothing for you to get right back into bid mode because you're used to doing it. The only thing you're mad about is getting caught and have to do it again. That's it. But being in there is not, you know, you know how to jail, or if the person did know how to jail, I know if it was me, I'd be like, all right, shit, I'm mad that I'm back in here, but I know how the ropes go in here, so I can get right into the swing of things.

SPEAKER_02 34:15

But knock this time up.

SPEAKER_01 34:17

So you already you already adjusted, just was there back in there, seeing a lot of the same faces, seeing a lot of everything's going on. You just just give me some commissary. I'm gonna do my little hit, my little two-year-old.

SPEAKER_03 34:27

I'm out of here. And I'm out of here. And then I'm I I become the reporter for all the men that been in there. And when I say reporter, meaning they want to know damn how the girls is out there now, what new clubs are opened up. They heard a new food shop opened up downtown. Yeah, I know about that joint. I seen that joint. I was just in there last week.

SPEAKER_01 34:45

What they wearing out there, some of what they wearing.

SPEAKER_03 34:47

All that, all that. You become the news reporter for that first next time. What's up with the newest iPhone? All that, all that. You get you get interrogated by the men about what's going on in the society. You see my baby mom?

SPEAKER_02 34:58

Yeah, all that. They asked you everything too.

SPEAKER_03 35:01

But don't say you did. Was she with somebody? Was she with that freak ass girl Queen in them? That's worse than being with a nigga.

SPEAKER_02 35:11

Then he might call and tell him, Yeah, Dot say he seen you out there.

SPEAKER_03 35:14

Yeah, Dot seen you. You remember when you seen him on that Saturday? My man died. And that's me. I'm admitted, that's me. As soon as Dotton told me on the violet, but what man, you know my cousin Dot? Yeah, he said he said he's not gonna lie to me. You're a lying ass broad. All that. So you know that's how it's going for the next month.

SPEAKER_01 35:34

Your chest hurting.

SPEAKER_03 35:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 35:36

Yeah, man. So hold on. So those conversations, once you get out, so now you came out. Say you say you your girl left you, right? When you did your first bid. You come, you go back out there, you with her, you find her, catch up to her, get her back. You go back to jail.

SPEAKER_02 35:52

I ain't gonna lie to her for you.

SPEAKER_01 35:53

I'm saying, but some people do go out there and get them back, right? You come out, get her back, go back to jail. Is she bucking on you again for that little short four years you got?

SPEAKER_02 36:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 36:05

I haven't even played myself. Like you just said, I'm not going back together. Yeah, I ain't gonna be like, you already said what you tell me all the time. If a person tell you who they are, believe them. Show you, show you who they are, believe them. Yeah, you you you left me doing my little 18-month bid or whatever. Evidently, you keep I keep getting these little skid bids. You got a bunch of dudes that been in jail 12, 13 years, right? But it was all skid. That 12, 13 years, 16 months here, nine months here, another 18 months here, 24 over there. Oh, he got sat down for a little 36 now, and then he out for another year and a half, go back for another 12. And by the time he done looked up and be like, damn, I need you 12 years in.

SPEAKER_01 36:46

Damn. So now your expectations for her now is um your expectations for her now is to um do the same thing she did before.

SPEAKER_03 36:58

Yes, that's why I'm not even gonna play. That's why I'm not even involving myself back in there. I already know that you, you know, this is not something that you, I'm not even gonna call you sturdy for. Back in my time or doing time, I would say you're not sturdy, but who am I to say a person not? I I threw my life away.

SPEAKER_01 37:16

But you but a person may think that I'm out here on the streets, I'm making money. So I'm on the streets making money. She whipped me while I'm riding, she taking the checks. She knows she know what I'm doing. She might even be taking the, as you say, take the bomb sometime and go put the bomb and help me count the money and everything. And then I get caught out here and go to jail. Do you leave me?

SPEAKER_03 37:33

Yeah, but I'm just saying, but you're talking about the second time around.

SPEAKER_01 37:37

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Second time I came home and she whipped me with the same nonsense we was on before.

SPEAKER_03 37:41

She only but did she leave you the first time?

SPEAKER_01 37:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 37:43

Oh, yeah. So I'm not coming out there too. Like you keep trying to ask this.

SPEAKER_01 37:47

But some people do though.

SPEAKER_03 37:48

Well, did they fool? They goddamn fool. But are we keep talking about what do you want me to say? You keep asking the question. What do you want me to say?

SPEAKER_01 37:55

Because you weren't understanding.

SPEAKER_03 37:56

No, I am understanding. Would you do that? Would you do it? You gotta listen to your question sometimes because you're getting me mad then. You you gotta listen to the question. You ask them in the three, four different angles, and I don't know if you're trying to irk me or not. Man, the woman is a piece of shit. How much woman she left you doing your bid? And for you to go home and get back with this woman, find her from the last dick she left you for, save her to yours again, you out of pocket.

SPEAKER_01 38:21

Yeah, you out of pocket.

SPEAKER_03 38:22

She needs to leave your ass again.

SPEAKER_01 38:24

But some dudes do that.

SPEAKER_03 38:25

Well, I don't I can't speak, I don't, I can't defeat.

SPEAKER_01 38:28

That's what I'm asking. Because no, sometimes sometimes people love bugs. You a love bugs she's like you went to jail, I was jelly.

SPEAKER_03 38:35

No, what is your question? What did you ask him? What is the question you're trying to get answered?

SPEAKER_01 38:37

All right the question I'm trying to get answered is but you answered it, but I want to let you answer it again. Does it hurt if somebody do it the second time?

SPEAKER_03 38:45

Yes, it's gonna hurt just like the first time. But he's a goddamn, he's a glutton. That's what you call a glutton for punishment. He's a glutton for punishment.

SPEAKER_02 38:53

Yeah, you're a fool.

SPEAKER_03 38:54

He done walked this road with this same woman and tried to walk it again. This nigga playing Russian roulette. He got a 357, it got six cylinders, he got three bullets in there spinning it. What's his odds a little bit? He got bad odds. Super bad odds.

SPEAKER_01 39:13

And he's um in there trying to um deal with and cope with the fact that she's gonna do it again.

SPEAKER_03 39:22

Yes, yes. Yeah, I wouldn't have to cope with that fact because after she did it to me the first time, and once I got over it, it was cool. You know what I'm saying? Like, damn, it's gonna be a trial and tribulation of getting over it, especially if you love this woman. Now, if it was something that you was just hitting and sliding on, all right, cool. And I might even go out there and try to run it back again. But this is not nothing I'm taking serious, so I don't care about it. I don't care if you leave and run again. I just know why you with me, you of some good use. That's the only reason why I'm gonna get you again. Okay. Whether it'd be because you can get some money or you can suck a hell of a chumpy. One or the other. That's the only reason why I'm doubling back for you. But it ain't because I'm trying to be partners with you forever and I'm trying to get this bond. But hell no. You showed me that if something happened to me and I know I'm out here still something. Now maybe if I'm I came out there and living a legit, even with me still, I still you you're not sturdy to me. Like I get on the right track and I'm working good and I'm working legitly and I come up that way, I'm still not gonna get you. I'm not gonna get you. You're not worth it. You showed me that you're not worth it. When I was getting into it, ain't like you was telling me the whole time I was selling dope or robbing or whatever the case may be, like, yo, you should stop that and lead you to jail. I ain't with that. Now if I go to jail and you left, then I would respect that and I would still try to come find you. You told me. You told me. But if you all in, yeah, babe, I need my nails and my hands down my guy, my feet. I got a chip right here. I gotta get this toe fixed. You know, and you watching me bust traps like I'm taking the money straight from the trap, giving it to you. And you right here and you pumping all that and you with it. Yeah, I don't know. Like, once you leave me as a rat. As a rap, you went to the next joint. You was only here because of beneficial reasons, of because of what I can do. Other than that, you left because now I can't do nothing. That shows me right then and there.

SPEAKER_01 41:10

Yeah. They gotta be devastating too. You know what I mean? What type of count for those who because sometimes people out there, I know people in the audience who are listening, um, the heartbreak for your mother, for those who had their mothers in their life, and you go back to jail. Does mom get tired of you at this point?

SPEAKER_03 41:26

Like they keep mom might not never get tired. She they get tired. Yeah, mom. They get tired, but they don't abandon you. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 41:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 41:33

Now you have some moms that do. I seen a lot of dudes' moms that be like, man, listen, man, cry out to the babies. Don't cry to me. You know what I'm saying? And you have some few in between, you have some moms. But overall, the majority moms went on.

SPEAKER_02 41:45

Mom's gonna stick it out with you more than your pop and everybody.

SPEAKER_03 41:47

Everybody.

SPEAKER_01 41:48

Yeah, I was gonna get to the pops because pops more, they more strict affirm. Like, listen, man. Come on, man. You've been in jail six times, son, the last six years.

SPEAKER_03 41:55

But you got the man, you got to do your time, son. You know what it is. Especially if he was a loose one before he got it right. Yeah, man, you got the man, you did that, man. You got to do shit. Think about what you be saying. And you and you a legit man, and your son chose to go to jail.

SPEAKER_01 42:10

Yeah, keep going to jail over and over and over again. At some point, I'm like, man, listen, man.

SPEAKER_03 42:14

If you go to jail, don't call myself. There you go.

SPEAKER_02 42:18

Mom ain't gonna say that though.

SPEAKER_01 42:19

Nah, mom.

SPEAKER_03 42:20

My mom ain't gonna never say that. No, the mom, mom, she just she just has that motherly, you know, motherly effect, man. My mom's just gonna do that to their kids.

SPEAKER_02 42:28

Mom will stay tell you to hit her hand so she can hit his hand. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 42:31

Yeah, I go through that now. Yep. Mom a lot my mom uh well won't lie to me, but she will ask me for something and say, don't ask me for what it's for because I'm not gonna I'm not gonna tell you. But I need you to give me this. And I know what it's for. It's for somebody in jail.

SPEAKER_02 42:48

Yeah. Mom ain't turning them babies down.

SPEAKER_01 42:50

I don't get she don't care if he's a big thing.

SPEAKER_02 42:54

You was ready to say homosexual or nothing.

SPEAKER_03 42:56

It's not sad.

SPEAKER_01 42:57

No, I said it's crazy that shit that they do that. I mean, it ain't sad. It's just it's just a way of her un her trying to support her baby, but not trying to cause conflict.

SPEAKER_02 43:06

Yeah, mom ain't turning the babies down.

SPEAKER_01 43:08

But then another thing, too, man. You know, does your um your anger heighten as far as when you get back to the prison? Do you want to you're now you're more um you know likely to tick to get in a uh confrontation with somebody, maybe a stab.

SPEAKER_03 43:22

Yeah, you mad. You mad, you mad you back in there. You goddamn right. You you mad as hell. You back. Don't be one of them boys that went home and you owed a couple tabs and you done slid out the door. Then you gotta face the minutes. A lot of times dudes come back on violation. He the old out, he owed a store man over here 150. He owed a cigarette man$70. Them niggas don't forget them tabs.

SPEAKER_01 43:41

Damn, dog, before you left, me and clear me up.

SPEAKER_03 43:44

And then you left, and then I didn't even know you was going home. You knew nigga, they ain't give you a surprise release. He tells me he's going to the medical me all the way to the door.

SPEAKER_01 43:52

Hold on, somebody said I went, I gotta go to the medical and then be out the door. So hold on, it's stuff still gonna be in the cell though.

SPEAKER_03 43:59

No. Nigga, get that shit. You ain't paying that job no money to come home. He out.

SPEAKER_01 44:04

Oh, he leave it, get down the stairs to have the guard come pick.

SPEAKER_03 44:06

Come no, what you have in the garden to my guys. It's gonna be a tough couple guys that they that's his men's on creep time with. We might be in the yard. Yeah, cast everything out. They're gonna get rid of all the stuff.

SPEAKER_01 44:17

He gotta carry his, he gotta carry his paperwork and his bag.

SPEAKER_03 44:21

None of that. Like he got they got little netbags you can buy. You can tell me, dude probably taking his pictures and his little log work. That ain't nothing. You think he going to the gym? It's a netbag that they give you that you can buy in there off of comments. There's dudes put their gym equipment and all that. You see, like, oh, he's going to a law library or something like that. You ain't thinking he going home.

SPEAKER_01 44:41

He walked out the door with a with a tab whistling Dixie.

SPEAKER_03 44:44

That haven't that happened a lot. Then he back six months later. Yo, they let ball come back up here. Where he at? That nigga left man out. That nigga owed me$300. That tab still open. You gotta pay that job.

SPEAKER_01 44:56

So what's that conversation like?

SPEAKER_03 44:58

Man, what's up? It's a whole what's up, man. What's up with that tab with that tab? And once we get through all that and the tab rate get paid, what happened? You went home that day, huh? Because now I got to watch you. Now I don't trust nothing you say. I'm looking at all call-outs in the feds. We get call-outs every day. So you see all the dudes that gotta go to RD or medical. What you going on? Your name up there for RD, bro. That's how that is. Either you getting legal mail or you getting discharged. Nigga, which one is it? You know what I'm saying? I got to watch you now. You know what I'm saying? So man.

SPEAKER_01 45:29

So you walked out on your tab, come back.

SPEAKER_02 45:31

Some of them check in a couple days before. You be sick.

SPEAKER_01 45:35

What, go up to PC?

SPEAKER_03 45:36

Yeah. Yeah. Go check right in. You be sick. Go check right in and sit down there for two, three days, get released from the hole. And walk you out the hole and then some niggas be seeing you because the way some hoes is that y'all, you can see when a nigga come out, and maybe he be cuffed and he be walking some, and niggas be on the record, like, yo, you see my man down there, such and such, such and such.

SPEAKER_04 45:55

Yo, you're a bitch.

SPEAKER_03 45:56

I'll never come out. You know what I mean? But you know, you in your own little walkway getting escorted somewhere. Like, yo, your bitch ass, that's why we whooped your ass. You know what I mean? So you got to see, yeah, man. It'd be a whole bunch of whole bunch of that.

SPEAKER_01 46:08

So he so he uh man, that's crazy. Yeah, you ever did that to somebody?

SPEAKER_03 46:11

No, I ain't never did that. I got I want to give a shout out to uh uh mr mr. Sand, man, man. Thank you for the donation, man. We appreciate that.

SPEAKER_01 46:23

Yeah, that that's that's cowardice, man. You just you just know how eat somebody some money and I'm going to I just did this coming home just now. You did it to somebody?

SPEAKER_03 46:31

Yeah, I got the store, man. Jamaica. Oh, you just said you just said you didn't do it. Oh, I thought you were talking about it to me as far as in uh on the other way around. No, I just got a nigga ass.

SPEAKER_01 46:38

Nah, I'm doing it. I got a nigga ass. No, dude. Let's be let's be clear. I burnt a nigga ass. Nah, dude.

SPEAKER_03 46:46

You burnt out on duty show, bro. Yeah, but you you take it. You gotta be clear though. It is clear. The people understand you ain't know what you're talking about.

SPEAKER_01 46:56

Let's be clear. What happened with you the store, man? What happened?

SPEAKER_03 46:59

What was his name? He was uh he was an old Jamaican. I ran the tab up to like the week prior. This is like the last time I went to the store, so I owed him like a Bing 20. So I got him like I got him like a 50 ball from the store. But he don't know when I go home. My man's got a couple homies, dude. They like, man, fuck him. Like that was his name, Wanguan. And I tightened his ass up that next week. I took the tab to like 190. I'm getting all types of honey buns and packs of oatmeal cookies. I'm coming there every day. Oh, I need three soups, I need two macros. And you know that'll come. This at the store is probably like$8, but from the store, man, this shit like$30.

SPEAKER_02 47:38

Yeah, you gotta double up.

SPEAKER_03 47:39

You gotta double up. Man, so he the the night before, the day I went home was actually the commissary day. That the day we go to commissary. So he seen me the night before. You know, I'm all in the cell with a couple guys. He comes to the door. He should have known something was going on. Somebody was getting, we partying, they making me bowls. Yeah, black man, we go out there. So he comes to the door, he like black. He got a little piece of paper in his hand. That's a list. I take the paper. 196. He went five honey buns and all these cakes and all that. I'm like, yeah. And I'm looking on him at the doorway, like, all right. I'm gonna get that. I'm going early in the morning because it's two times you can shop. Either early in the morning or at lunchtime, 12 o'clock after lunch. So I'm like, yo, I'm going early in the morning. I'm gonna bring that back by nine o'clock move, early in the morning. They call you to RD about 7:30, 8 o'clock when you're getting discharge. I'm hiding. I'm not hiding, but I'm ducking him. I'm all the way in the back. All I hear is Jackson report to RD. I shook the guy's hands, covered the guys. You were free was at rule right out. Yeah, I did some free shit when I was out of pocket. I'm a free for that. Yeah, you had a bright room. I burnt, I burnt his ass. I got out of there. Yeah, he was mad. My man tell me I called my man. I left like a big thing. I knew he was flipped. Called my man. When he finally called me, I get my phone back on and all that. He like, yo, the nigga ain't know you went home for like three days. He was like, yo, where's Black at? Where's Black? He was banking on that little two 200. He was from Philly. No, he wasn't from Philly. He was from like I think he was from New York or something like that. He was uh Jamaica. Yo, yo had a pocket. Rasta Clyde got Rasta Clyde ass. Oh, dude. I stung his ass for the go-out.

SPEAKER_01 49:14

Yeah. So hold on.

SPEAKER_03 49:17

Tell me you had a pocket of the room.

SPEAKER_01 49:18

How much time he had? How much time?

SPEAKER_03 49:20

He had about a uh 25 ball. He needed that little deuce. Yeah. I was hungry as shit. Man, them last couple days I ain't had nothing. I'm like, man.

SPEAKER_02 49:28

Did they cut your commentary off? Like your account.

SPEAKER_03 49:30

No, no, they cut your accountant all that off. Like the day before they cut your phone off. Like the day before. Cut your phone off, cut your computer off. But you did leave your commentary on because something might happen. You might got to stay or something, whatever. But yeah, it's uh yeah, Rasta, I got Rasta asked, man. He'll never forget me. He'll remember me for the rest of his days. Yep.

SPEAKER_01 49:50

Wow. So this is a common, a common action that people do. Like, man, I'm out of here. Once I know I'm going, man, I ain't paying no commissary. But what about those who who leave and then they give all their commentary out to people? That's like normal to do too, right?

SPEAKER_03 50:05

Yeah, that's very normal. I always do that. I seen dudes get ready to leave, get all their commissary out, and don't go nowhere.

SPEAKER_02 50:12

Well, that's solid.

SPEAKER_01 50:13

Wow. Explain that. I supposed to be leaving and I give out my commentary. Do you get it back?

SPEAKER_03 50:19

No, because you done gave it out probably the night before. Niggas is busting that shit up.

SPEAKER_02 50:23

Whatever they got, whatever they got, whatever I need mine.

SPEAKER_03 50:26

Man, listen, Doc, you gave me a bag Tuesday, and you supposed to leave Thursday. That bag gone, bro. You gave me about five bags of chips, 25 soups. You come down there, it might be two soups, no chips.

SPEAKER_02 50:36

The chips is gone. Don't let no game be on.

SPEAKER_03 50:38

No chips. Macker's gone. Candy gone. You coming down there, man, you might get half a soup pack. Like, because I sometimes I eat a soup and a half and I leave the other half wrapped up in the bag on a dresser like that. You might get a little half of rain loop.

SPEAKER_02 50:53

With a little bit of seasoning.

SPEAKER_03 50:54

Man, if you gave that to me, that's a wrap. Like, yeah, I ain't gonna try and go get that bag from Black. That's gone. Yeah, that's over with.

SPEAKER_01 51:00

Wow. So what can cause somebody not to leave, though?

SPEAKER_03 51:03

Like anything, they might mess up your date or some other entity might be coming to get you the state. You might have packed up your stuff.

SPEAKER_09 51:11

Somebody might drop some container on you.

SPEAKER_03 51:12

Or something other than you gotta go somewhere else. They just because they run your name through. You, you, you, you, you, they gotta run your name before you get released. And it's like a vicious database joint to make sure you ain't got no other warrants out in the other uh states and all that. So they want to make sure you're perfectly free to get let go.

SPEAKER_01 51:28

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 51:29

Sometimes things will come back and they come back at the last second. I'm talking about you upon walking to the receiving room. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, oh, oh, oh, yeah, yeah, we just found something came up. You gotta go, you got a court date down there, you gotta finish that with them, and then we'll come back and get you another date. Upright crap. Yeah, I seen it happen to a couple men. Yep, I seen a couple men be sitting there with nine years left. Yo, yo, you pack up immediate discharge. Pack what up? Nigga pass his bowl off. He three scoops and pack up for real. It's time to go. Nigga thought he was going home 2029. Yeah, you going home today. You know what I mean? So, you know.

SPEAKER_01 52:03

And they gotta get you out of there immediately.

SPEAKER_03 52:05

ASAP rock.

SPEAKER_01 52:07

Wow. That's crazy. But you know, at the end of the day, you know, I mean, I would rather, like anybody else, I probably would rather be on the end of uh being getting that uh that surprising call that I'm that I'm going home.

SPEAKER_03 52:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 52:21

I'm assuming it's a long walk to get to RD.

SPEAKER_03 52:25

That's a nice little walk. All depends on where your unit is placed at on the compound.

SPEAKER_01 52:29

Yeah, you probably happy, smiling, cheesing. You know what I mean? Thinking about what you're gonna do when you get out.

SPEAKER_03 52:34

Yep, always already made all these plans. Somebody outside waiting for you to pick you up. Yeah, that's the worst. Don't be far away, and somebody took the trip all the way up there just to pick you up, and then come to find out that you're really not getting discharged this day.

SPEAKER_01 52:47

Yeah, that gotta be devastating. That gotta be a hurt piece. Man, I'm I'm I'm cool, man. And you you giving fives and daps, and then what happens when you get back to the block like that? They be like everybody wanna know what's going on.

SPEAKER_02 53:01

Everybody, you I'm right crying this up. Yeah. Everybody already got it. You gotta call your folks telling you you ain't coming home. 12 feet? That's hurt. They like, damn, everybody was banking on that.

SPEAKER_01 53:09

And everybody outside in the car waiting for you. Like, yeah, it was going to take them so long.

SPEAKER_02 53:12

They drove all the way up there.

SPEAKER_01 53:14

Do they could do they come out and tell your family that you ain't getting out?

SPEAKER_02 53:17

Yeah, they're gonna go, they got to. Yeah, because you can't sit on their grounds too long. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 53:22

And some people might have drove eight hours.

SPEAKER_02 53:25

Some people might drive longer than that.

SPEAKER_01 53:27

That's what I'm saying. They come pick you up.

SPEAKER_02 53:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 53:32

Yeah, I'm cool with that. I'm I'm I'm gonna go.

SPEAKER_02 53:36

Y'all better listen to us up this job.

SPEAKER_01 53:38

So now when you in a when you when you in jail and they tell you that smiles gotta come get you, it like upstate, because upstate, normally everything is already done upstate more, normally, right?

SPEAKER_03 53:47

What you mean?

SPEAKER_01 53:48

As far as um them knowing if you have a warrant with somebody else or not.

SPEAKER_03 53:51

No, they still I don't know how it goes up.

SPEAKER_02 53:54

You'll know. You'll know. They're like, yeah, this county about to come get you. They give the county a couple uh a couple days to come get you and all that.

unknown 54:02

Dang.

SPEAKER_02 54:02

You they you'll know you ain't you know you ain't going home.

SPEAKER_01 54:07

But that's just you know, something that people gotta deal with, man. It's unfortunate, but it goes on and it happens, and nothing that you can do about it. And nine times out to you know you might have a case that you ain't really resolved.

SPEAKER_03 54:19

Yeah, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It ain't a surprise to you. It's only a surprise that it came up there. That's the only surprise. But you know what you're out there doing, and you be relieved when you slide past like they ain't know about that.

SPEAKER_01 54:31

But what happened if you got out and then then you got a warrant somewhere else? Oh, you got out, but you got you gotta handle this warrant over here.

SPEAKER_03 54:38

And they're not letting you out. They're not letting you out.

SPEAKER_01 54:40

But what if it what if it don't come up? Oh, if it don't come out, you good. But but then when you get out, it comes up, you gotta see your PL. You peel like, oh, you already got a warrant over here.

SPEAKER_03 54:48

All right, well, yeah, you just gotta go back in and take care of that.

SPEAKER_01 54:50

So they're gonna take you back in.

SPEAKER_03 54:52

That's whoever you got that warrant. You got a warrant, you gotta go to jail.

SPEAKER_01 54:55

And what's the point? What's it what's the chance of inmates turning themselves in?

SPEAKER_03 54:58

Oh, probably not nine times out of ten, not. If you ain't got me already and where you can handle that, I'm not looking at something. Now, if it's something meatball, and I can go ahead and could clear it up in a couple days, yeah. I'm gonna go do it.

SPEAKER_01 55:10

Wow. So listen, y'all. About to get ready to take some calls, man. Um, I know the number. Y'all want to reach out to us, talk to us, man. And go get these calls going. Uh 215-316-4492. That's 215-316-4492. Come on, check us out. Reach out to us, man. Speak with us. Um now. When you when you when you come in there like and you get released now from the from the upstate prison, do you have clothes that you went up there with or no?

SPEAKER_02 55:41

No. You just getting out with a blue. But you get like a own blue own shirts and some blue jeans, but your family having like clothes in the car and all that.

SPEAKER_01 55:48

Oh, all right.

SPEAKER_03 55:49

So you just get a lace sent up to you to go.

SPEAKER_02 55:52

No, they don't do that no more. Oh, yeah, they do. But except for people stealing their own sneaks in the receiving room and all that. Yeah, bring them to the D World, yeah. Yeah, you know, they be stealing all the sneaks and clothes and all that.

SPEAKER_01 56:00

Oh wow. So, but in the in the state, you wear browns. Every jail?

SPEAKER_02 56:05

Yeah, in the state, all the jails you wear browns. Except Camp Hill, Camp Hill, you wear like blues, like you in the intake, you'll wear like a blue top, blue bottle.

SPEAKER_01 56:12

You see how like like that brown right there is like on that tree right there. That brown is brown. Do you see, and then you see up there on top of the mud? Yeah. Some people browns browns be that color. Why they be why they be different like that?

SPEAKER_02 56:23

They be like, they motherfuckers, they be want to look different and all that.

SPEAKER_01 56:26

Okay, so they what they what they do.

SPEAKER_02 56:27

You know, we make them. We make them, so they might dye them jaws.

SPEAKER_01 56:30

Oh, okay. And they want to have a had it.

SPEAKER_02 56:33

Because kitchen workers wear white, so they might get some dyes, some light brown dye, dye them different colors.

SPEAKER_01 56:38

Oh, okay. So they make it they make it a uh their own uh clothing line in there.

SPEAKER_02 56:43

Yeah, I call that institutionalized. Like, why do you want to try to look different in jail? No, we all got the same. Everybody do that. I ain't never did it, but I I I wonder why the people do that though. Yeah, I'm cool off all that.

SPEAKER_01 56:53

Yeah, man, but you know, sometimes people got a lot of time.

SPEAKER_02 56:56

You know, see people people people cut out Louis sign glue on the shirt. Like, what is you doing, man?

SPEAKER_01 57:00

Where inside inside in jail? Yeah, got a Louis V sign on his on his jail.

SPEAKER_02 57:05

It'll look better than the Louis that they selling out, man. People be spitting all types of stuff on their clues, Nike signs.

SPEAKER_01 57:11

Really?

SPEAKER_02 57:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 57:13

Wow. But do you blame them though?

SPEAKER_02 57:16

No.

SPEAKER_01 57:16

I'm I'm just trying to.

SPEAKER_02 57:18

That's weird to me.

SPEAKER_03 57:19

I ain't gonna lie. Like, I ain't doing all that, bro. Yeah, I'm not doing it either, but I see why they do it. They want us to keep up with the Joneses. Keep up with everything that's going on and this and that. But man, I understand.

SPEAKER_01 57:31

So you got an LV sign. Yeah, they got an L V sign on a browns and all that. And a big DOC on the back. Yeah, the big DOC on the back. Department of Corrections for those who don't know. Man, I'm just um happy that none of us is, you know, planning on going back to jail.

SPEAKER_02 57:48

We ain't going back to jail for you on this couch. You ain't got to be happy for me, because that ain't happening. We might go visit some jail and talk to the Emmys, but we ain't going inside them, Johns.

SPEAKER_01 57:56

Yeah, y'all, we got Lil Woody, not on duty, coming up this week. He's gonna be on uh Tell us from the Jails. Don't forget to become a member. Our members get to watch the full video as a member. We're gonna keep bringing y'all exclusive content, exclusive interviews, exclusive people. Little Woody gets real, real uh emotional on this podcast when speaking about life and things that he has endured over the past five to ten years. Um, you know, success comes at a cost a lot of times.

SPEAKER_03 58:28

Sacrifice.

SPEAKER_01 58:29

Yeah, success comes at a cost, man. Tell us from the jail, so we're speaking with.

SPEAKER_00 58:35

Speaking with, I'm I'm gonna say R.

SPEAKER_01 58:37

What's up? R we calling from, bro?

SPEAKER_00 58:39

Philly.

SPEAKER_01 58:40

Philly, what part of Philly?

SPEAKER_00 58:43

Southwest, but I'm from the I'm from L Chout. Y'all tell me what y'all think of.

SPEAKER_01 58:50

Sure, you give it up.

SPEAKER_00 58:52

I mean, I'm gonna say a friend of mine is just called a case, right? Where the twin girlfriend got into a little something like a commotion. But the the twin girlfriend left the crib. But the family thought it was something wrong with it when he came to the person's house. When it got into the prison house, like the young boys, the ball young boys that came into the things in the king, he went out to the things that the king was in the house. And mind you came to his house. But then he turned around and called the kids on him because I believe they told them the weapon, but they told the kids and pointed the weapon at them in these things, and he was locked up. But mind you, when he got locked up, no gun was found on him. And when he said the detective told him it was a gun adjacent to you. He said, What's adjacent? They went in his house and took four illegal guns out of the house and put them on him. What do you think of that?

SPEAKER_01 59:54

Oh man, for me, I think that is that's just an unfortunate situation, but I think he can beat that. If he has if he can prove that they went and they got them guns at the house, he can beat that. But it's just a matter of um, you know, of it happening. But that's just unfortunate.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:08

Now, um, when they went in the house and got the guns, they didn't have did they have a um a warrant to go in there and get them, or they they waited on the premises until I guess a warrant was given or brought and then they went in. But and before before the warrant, they were trying to buff right in the house. And like I told you, he should have let them go right in the house because then it would have definitely got tossed. Yeah, definitely. But I was more stuck on uh how you come to somebody's house to threat, with like posing a threat, but then turning to the victim. Yeah, they're gonna figure it out in court.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:40

Yeah, you gotta do that in front of a judge, but that judge just seemed like that's like he can beat that though. You know, it's a good thing.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:51

And the sun, mind you, the dog. The dog is like in a about 45. Never been like in serious trouble. Like that was the dog first time he was going to state rule. Melvin was going to state road at 45. PFC.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:09

All the little kids in there, yeah. Yeah, I'm cool, man.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:13

It was all kids up there. Luckily, I was only mean he was only up there for like 18 hours. Maybe he was only in state rule for like 10 hours. Well it was like 100 grand. 10, 10, 10,000. He got the fuck out of here.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:26

Yeah, well, man. Well, happy to hear that, man. But thank you for your call, man. Enjoy your night, man. Shout out to you. Shout out to SP. Shout out to Southwest. Thank you, man, for tuning in, man. Enjoy your night, bro.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:36

I'm about to re-subscribe too. I was subscribed last month, but it just expired.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:39

All right, become a member, man. Go ahead. Become a member, man.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:42

I'm about to do it right now, so we ain't got a channel. Appreciate you.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:45

Thank you, man. Appreciate you. We got a new member today, too, as well, man. We got a new member just now, man. Who's that? Who's that new member?

SPEAKER_03 1:01:52

Philly Sucker Ducker.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:54

Philly Sucker Ducker, man. Shout out to you. Yeah, man. You know, call in. Y'all 215-316-4492. That's 215-316. 215-316-4492. That's 215-316-4492. Because we want to hear from y'all because we need to know you know just see what's going on out there, man. You know, talk to y'all, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:16

Man, let us know what topics we got covered. Let us know what's going on.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:21

So you got people that's um, you know, going to jail and coming home. Is it more people going in or more people coming out? Or is it more similar? As far as people being released and people going to jail.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:34

Man, I think it's more people going in. Yeah, people go there. They got like I told you the other day, they got dudes walking around here indicted that they don't know they indicted yet. A grand jury has indicted them. They just didn't come apprehend them off the streets yet. Like it's way more people going to jail than coming home, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:50

That's what I think. I think it's more people going to hold. You see how many people get locked up a day compared to how many people come home a day? This is how you know it's more people going, they building more prisons. They ain't got enough space to hold niggas.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:04

Yeah, man. I'm I'm cool. I ain't trying to go. I ain't trying to go in there.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:08

Yeah, I ain't saying that. I ain't saying I ain't getting to pay well no more.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:10

And then the thing about it is now I think about it, people are coming in by the bus, the bus load, but people walking out like one at a time, one, two. What's the most amount of people you've seen released at one time? 10, 20, 30?

SPEAKER_02 1:03:21

Well, but I ain't never seen no 10. No.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:23

Three four.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:24

Yeah, three, four every day in the jail. Every day? Yeah, every day.

unknown 1:03:28

Oh.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:29

But a bus coming every day with five, ten people in that jail.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:32

No, but bus comes every every week with us.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:34

Oh, yeah, and we're gonna be able to do that. But you know what?

SPEAKER_03 1:03:38

And then you have little vans that's bringing niggas in. But the whole bus, a bus comes twice a month.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:44

Yeah, our joint, our joint comes like Tuesdays and Thursdays in the states.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:49

Call in y'all 215-316-4492. That's 215-316-4492. Before we get up out of here, man. It's time to break fast. So we want to talk to y'all, man. 215-316-4492. That's 215-316-4492. Now, um these busloads coming in. I think I asked this question before because you know, everybody that's that's coming in, it's not new cases. People are coming in from other jails as well.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:16

And they put them all on one on the same bus. And and and in that, is it an opportunity like you might be on the bus with your opposite or somebody they say?

SPEAKER_03 1:04:28

Yeah. That's a transit. That's where you're gonna see everything at.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:36

Tell us from the jail.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:39

How you doing? Uh uh man, appreciate that.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:44

Who we talking with today, man?

SPEAKER_06 1:04:46

Uh my name Al Ruby. I'm from Baltimore.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:48

Shout out to B more, man.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:51

Yeah, no, I'm just I was just saying shit. Uh I appreciate the show for my father. Yeah, my whole relationship, but that never really happened to the streets for real. I had homeboys and shit that was in the streets, but uh I ain't never re fought between my father and locked up all this shit for real. So I just want to say thank y'all for the show for and give this shit out to the youth and shit.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:16

Thank you, man. Thank you.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:17

Appreciate you.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:18

For sure, man. Thanks, man. A lot, man. Joey Night, man.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:20

That's all I want to say. Keep doing y'all thing for real. Shout out for like say more, keep doing your thing and shit for real. And stay out the motherfucking way.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:27

All right, thanks, man. Same to you, man. Shout out to B More.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:30

All right, all right.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:31

Joy night. That's 215-316-4492. That's 215-316-4492. Bother to get up out of here, man. Get ready to break our fast, man. Um, as uh Ramadan dwindles the dwindles away. You know, we get this will probably be tomorrow will be our last day of fasting before the Eid. So we are um, you know, just winding down. But I want to thank y'all, man, for tuning in. Tell us from the jails we're speaking with.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:57

You're going on, man. This is Dave from Jerry.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:00

What's up, man? Is it Dave?

SPEAKER_05 1:06:03

Jay.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:04

Jay?

SPEAKER_05 1:06:05

Jay sure for Dave Shaw.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:07

Oh, what's going on, man? How you feeling, man? What part of Jersey are you calling from?

SPEAKER_05 1:06:11

I work out of Camden. I'm a parole officer, actually.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:14

Oh, wow.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:15

Wow. Yeah, I watch I watch our show all the time, man. Y'all do the y'all killing it. Y'all doing y'all thing. Appreciate you.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:20

Appreciate you.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:21

I wanted to tune in. I wanted to uh chime in on the uh what y'all was talking about earlier about what brings guys back to jail while they on parole. Y'all was a thousand percent correct with the uh the women.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:32

Yeah, told you that women, and you a P.O. So you women.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:36

Yeah. I'm a parole officer. I tell dudes as soon as they get in, if you're living with this woman, understand what comes with that. A DV comes, you automatically go in on the bracelet. You automatically got a chance of going back to jail.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:47

So um a DV is a domestic violence, right?

SPEAKER_05 1:06:50

Yeah, correct.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:51

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:51

It don't matter, it don't matter if you did it or not, especially in Jersey, where I can go and say you did something to me and we live in the house together, it's automatic. Like you see the judge in the morning.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:02

But um Wow.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:04

I just want to tune in and let y'all know, man.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:07

We appreciate you for calling.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:08

We appreciate you for calling in.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:09

And then from your standpoint, you're a parole officer. It's better coming from your mouth than it's mine's because I'm a convict and I could be an ex-convict, and I could be saying anything up here, you know.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:19

Right, yeah, you're an ex-convict, and it kind of that label not even on you next time.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:23

Exactly. Yep, exactly, man. But I'm glad that you called called up, man, and uh collaborate on what we said, and you know, you agree with it, man. Let's put it out there.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:32

Let me ask you, let me ask you a question, Dave. What are some of the excuses you heard from um from these guys who say, um, um, you know, when they get these uh these D Vs and you gotta come pick them up? What is what are they saying to you?

SPEAKER_05 1:07:43

Um, you know how it goes dudes is like I didn't do it, and and a lot of times they might not get it, but you put yourself in a position, unfortunately, that you don't get no grave. You know what I mean? You you being uh on parole, you you behind the eight ball a little bit. So you know, if that is the situation, you go to court and hopefully the judge will see that you know it didn't happen or it did happen, but in Jersey it's a two-step process. So you um it's like the a temporary restraining order, and then it's a final restraining order. So if it's temporary, you just just get like put on the bracelet. If it's not too crazy, and then um if it becomes final, you automatically get them revolt. You're going to jail. You know what I mean? You go back to prison.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:22

Wow, wow, man. Well, thanks, man, for giving us that point of view, man. And uh shout out to you, man. And uh listen, child, let some people slide, man, if you can, man.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:31

Hey man, man, I'm the I'm your uh your pro lead favorite parole officer, man. Trust me.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:36

Oh man, no, you tuned in. We appreciate you.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:38

All right, thanks, man. Shout out to you, shout out to Jersey, man.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:41

Yes, sir. Y'all have a good one.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:42

Me too.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:44

Yeah, you heard that? That was a pro officer. Yeah. Shout out to Corey Woods, man, for the donation, man. Thank you.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:50

He said he he said he uh uh that was a pro officer who said what that the most the the thing that get people back is is women. The women you said you said new case, and then you said you said trying to get some money, catching a new case. And then but he said women. Domestic violence, be careful, they send you back, you know? 215-316-4492. That's 215-316-4492. The lines is open, y'all. Lines is open. So hearing a parole officer say that, right? And you speaking about that, that's more of an awareness for people out there that's listening to know that for those that's coming home or they got homies about to come home, and they say, No, I'm gonna go be in my girl crib. Nah. Go somewhere else, man. If you can. Is it better to be at a halfway house or a house?

SPEAKER_03 1:09:44

Halfway house. Because you can get yourself together. You don't need no money in the halfway house, bro.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:50

Tell us from the jails, who we got?

SPEAKER_07 1:09:52

What's up? This is Jeek from out of Patterson, New Jersey.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:55

What's up, Jeek? How you doing, man?

SPEAKER_07 1:09:57

I'm good. Hey, I had a question for black. Hey, Black, right? So uh uh I had caught an uh indictment when I was 18 and shit. I'm 20 now. I've been on a I've been on a bomb for two years. Right. Uh so now they're trying to give me a mandatory five. Out of the mandatory five, much time I'll do out of that.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:17

Out of mandatory, what, five years?

SPEAKER_07 1:10:19

Yeah, 60 months.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:20

Uh where you at? You going to the feds?

SPEAKER_07 1:10:23

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:24

Oh man, that's man, do all the programs and all the uh the rules change and the the guidelines change uh so far now, you might do two and a half years. Might. Yeah. But you gotta complete these programs and all, you know, the good time credits and all that. So it's all types of stuff you could get yourself into when you're doing your time. If you take these classes, because they're gonna tell you upon you get into your jail and you go see your unit team that's like a board of people that help, you know, that start putting your plan together for you to go home. They're gonna tell you the things you can do to get a certain amount of time off. It's called the fair sentence in that. You can do certain things and get months off for it. This is something new that the feds just started with in the last two to three years. They're giving out a lot, a lot of like you get five years sentence and you'll end up doing, man, close to two and a half years if that.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:16

Wow.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:16

Because you know, feds give out flat numbers. They don't give out five to ten.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:21

They give you sixty, twenty seventy, eighty months. Take that.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:24

If they give you eighty months, you doing 70 of that. You give me a doing your whole sentence. You give me a doing your whole sentence. That's why they give it away.

SPEAKER_07 1:11:33

I got Rico Conspiracy, uh drug distribution.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:37

And you home?

SPEAKER_07 1:11:39

Yeah, I'm on a bond, I'm on a brave.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:40

Oh, you oh yeah. Oh, Fez give you house arrest too. Oh wow.

SPEAKER_07 1:11:44

Yeah, yeah, yeah. My mom bought the house up and shit.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:47

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:48

You want you one of the lucky ones. They they usually don't get it out at all.

SPEAKER_07 1:11:53

Yeah, it's it's 11 of us, only two of us I got it, though. Like the violent offenders. Other ones, like, you know, no that shit.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:01

Thank you though. Yeah, I appreciate that. I appreciate you, man. Go knock that little two and a half years out, man. Come back out there. You're right. Y'all niggas stay up.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:09

You too, man. So two out of 11 people, two of them got house arrest.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:14

Put the house up, mommy put the crib up.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:17

Shout out to uh Michi Kennedy. Thank you for the donation.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:20

Don't put the crib up, Dunn. Because if I get free, I'm gonna run.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:26

Get me out of there.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:27

You ain't running from that. You ain't taking that mom's house. Mom's gonna be mad as hell.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:31

Mom gonna be pissed up.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:32

We go on the run.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:33

You can get locked back up. Mom ain't sending you a damn thing.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:36

So listen, y'all, I want to thank everybody for tuning in, man. This episode of uh Tell Smith is sponsored by TNS Media Group. We in we live in Power Room, you would say. Once again, we got a little Woody coming out uh this week uh for everybody to watch. You got some great content coming behind that. Uh, we're gonna continue to work, uh, you know, show support to keep us out of court. Shout out to my guy, Otis Rada. Um, you know, this uh podcast, once again, I want to make it clear to everybody out there who's listening that we do not promote jail. We just bring real live stories, real live incidents, real live situations and scenarios to help deter people from going to prison. So that's where we're at with it. Anything y'all want to say before we go?

SPEAKER_03 1:13:14

Stay free. You know my model. Meet me back here tomorrow. Live time, please, everybody.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:20

And pay attention to what that own P.O. said, man.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:23

Yeah, and do not come home and go live with your girl or your wife.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:27

Oh, especially if she was cheating on you in jail. You think you're gonna go back over there and find out now you're beating on her and all that, you because I know you're still mad, man. Yeah. Go ahead, man. Go to the happy house, man. Get your feet on land, go get a little job. Go to mommy crib.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:41

Yeah, do that. Be safe, stay free, and um, you know, make sure y'all stay focused. It's tell us from the jail as well.