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The host speak about the effects of music upon the youth. The host give their thoughts on the youth gravitating towards musical artist.

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SPEAKER_07 4:40

I want to thank everybody who's been tuning in to Tell us from the Jails. Everyone knows that jail is a serious matter. Us here at Tells from the Jails, we are offering something special to anyone who is currently in prison on their way to prison, and actually those who are returning from prison. We are back. Yo, what's up, everybody? It's Tells from the Jails here live in Parkman. You know who I am. Tolfik Page got my counterpart, Mr. Braheem Jackson. What's going on with you, man, today, man? How's everything going with you, man?

SPEAKER_06 5:18

Oh man, I'm good, man. What was that noise just man?

SPEAKER_07 5:20

Yeah, I know. I pulled one of your moves just now.

SPEAKER_06 5:22

Yeah, that's why I'm looking at you like, man, what's going on, man? Hello, everybody, man. Everybody, all my family, man. All the audience, man. Hopefully everybody is in attendance, man, as they should be. Running a little late today, but you know, it's better here than not here at all. But uh hopefully everybody is accounted for. No one is inside no one's Pinot system. Um, everybody is enjoying a free Tuesday going into our Wednesday.

SPEAKER_07 5:45

Shout out to uh uh John Michael, Big Ski Fit T Bobby Ewing, you know, Meach Kennedy94, you know, everybody that's in the chat, man. The whole the whole pot, the whole Tells from the Jails crew. Um, so what's going on, man? What's going on with you, man? How you feeling today, man? How how how's how's uh life treating you, man?

SPEAKER_06 6:06

Um got a little lashing from you upon in and here today. But other than that, and that was a great lashing. It was a great lash. That was you know, I have a whole lot of let me talk. Let me talk, man. Let me get minds out before you go and jump off the high end as you usually do. All right, cool. Um, yeah, and it was just a reminder. The reminder is beneficial to the believer. And I believe that, you know, what we have going here, um, the people loves to hear. Yeah. So in and if they love it, then I got to be here. At an alarming rate. You know me, you know my saying, at an alarming rate. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 6:39

But you know, man, sometimes, you know, uh a good conversation is good, man. Um is needed. You know what I'm saying? Because sometimes you can go days without having a conversation, and and then you, you know, you know, next thing you know, y'all now on the same page. You're not on the same page with your comrade. So, you know, it's good to have a conversation. So let's talk about that, right? Right. In prison, right? Sorry, before I get to this, I want to say this. I gotta make this this uh disclaimer. Once again, we are not glorifying prison in no way, shape, form, or fashion. All right. Um, in prison, right? You have older guys, right? Mm-hmm. Who, when younger guys come into these prison systems, the younger guys are there to do what? Talk to them, coach them, you know, teach them the ropes to those who want to listen. How important is it to have those type of well, I'm I don't want, I don't, I don't know if I'm saying this right, but um what would prison be like if it didn't have guys who want to do the right thing in prison, you know what I'm saying, to try to school it or the younger guys who want to listen.

SPEAKER_06 7:44

Well, first and foremost, you don't got too many guys in there trying to school the younger guys on nothing, not this day's in time. This ain't back in the day time. Really? No. Old heads in there, man, the ones that's sturdy and thorough, and it's sad for me to say it. You know, prison make you stand off, especially if I don't know you. You know what I'm saying? And if I look upon you and looking upon a young boy, right straight coming in fresh, you know, fresh 20, 30 years, they frowned upon in there. Don't know old head of any type of coof, you know, any type of thoroughness want to be around that unless this is son or brother or something, but you know, this is nobody to him, no friend, no kin, no nothing. He a young boy got a strikes from the beginning. He young, he don't know how to bid. So a thorough motherfucker, in order you for you for you to fall underneath his, especially in the feds, he got to be from, y'all got to be from the same city. Not to say that you can't mess with other dudes that's from other cities you do, but a young bull, and you got a lot of thorough grown men in that joint, man. A lot, but they more stand off as you got to prove your weight worth to be not underneath them, but in their company. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? And is they wrong? They was there once, but they harden, they're hardened criminals. Yeah, you know, and they got they could they got the intellect to think and all that, but they're hardened criminals. You have that butt. The butt is they're hardened criminals, so they're not, you know, more of people person to go out and like, damn, young boy like this style, but you got nah, they're not offering advice like that. You know, it got to be somehow they get connected. So, you know, dudes are like you got to figure it out for the most part, man. You have to figure it out, man. Uh one man, one arm band, man. You got to figure it out, bro.

SPEAKER_07 9:23

But there are there are some some guys that are in prison to to that that do try to speak to the youth about you know what's going on, though. There are some guys I hear about all the time. Like I was on in the YS, um, the Little Woody interview. For those who have saw the interview, Little Woody, he spoke about, you know, he's about to come when we have three weeks left. He said it was an older guy in prison that told him, Look, man, just take PC.

SPEAKER_06 9:47

Yeah, it's probably an older guy that he that he knew. I'm not saying that it ain't no guys in prison like that. What I'm saying is, especially in federal prison, where everything is geographic, you got, you know, every all the little cities in their own little groups. And a young boy automatically got a stigma against him when he comes. He's young, you know, especially if he ain't never did no time before. If you ain't, you know, messing with a certain nigga or in a certain group, you really don't you ain't nobody coming out of their way like damn young boy. Like you have that less than than than doing so. You know, so I'm not saying that that type of advice can't come from a uh a mouth or two towards your ear, but it is it's far few in between. Yeah, most of the time you learn by touching that pot to see if it's hot. You ain't getting the advice that you get when you on the street and you got more of an old head and nah, and there it's like you know how you got the lion and the cubs are coming around, and you'll look at it as vicious, right? Because the way the lineable the animal nature is, and it'll pause be ready to buy it. The mama had to come over and be like, back up. Is you crazy? But that's love, that's his cub. You know what I'm saying? But it looks so brutal and cold, but that's the type of love you're gonna get in the prison. That's that prison love right there. And we ain't talk about no homosexuality, none of that. We talking about camaraderie love, like you get to with a with a with an iron fist, man. Ain't no, oh yeah, you gotta do it this way. Come on over here, sit down, let me explain to you. That don't work for boys. But I'm just saying, you got some people that rather raise their boys, like I say, you'd like that. Yeah, yeah, you is. You ain't really got no arm. Back in the day, no, no, no, no. I'm talking like how you beat it when you beat the messing up. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So but in there is a different type of love. Like you're gonna get a different type of love. You know what I'm saying? So I mean it it ain't it it it just ain't that. It ain't you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_07 11:38

Do you think that um do you think that that that boys need I I don't wanna say the the rough mistreatment, because sometimes you it could like you said that that that you can't really look at the animal aspect and and and and use that as a a gauge to how you should treat your child. But sometimes your boys need to be tough love, bro. Ain't no subtimes about it, bro. Because they get older and then it's hard to break, it's hard to break them out of the old house.

SPEAKER_06 12:03

Like, listen, man, like like what's the name just set up here and said, Who was it that we was talking to? You know, uh, I think it was uh finesse two times talking about, and that's exactly who it was. And he was talking on a you know a video a video, the shooting that we had with him about a man needs to be prevalent for a man to be a fully man. Not to say that women can't, because you have a lot of strong women out here today that has raised beautiful black boys, not just beautiful black boys, but conscious black boys, boys that's accountable, that know how to go out in life and conduct themselves as a normal human being. You know what I'm saying? Now to fully complete that man cycle, he has to have a man hand in it. A woman don't know how to teach you, be no man. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And that's just it. Whether it's from a hard, tough schooling or a soft schooling, he'd just be a soft nigga instead of tough nigga. But he comes from a nigga.

SPEAKER_07 12:57

And and not nine time out of nine times out of ten, you know, boys who are raised by their mother are, you know, eagerly emotional. They just, and that's why, you know, you see a lot of these young boys in the the uh the YN, so they say, are in prison because what? The the dads ain't really around. And they out here moving off emotion a lot of times. If we look at them, like like we've spoken to them. A lot of them say what? My dad wasn't around, you know what I mean? My mom raised me, you know, my grandm raised me. You know what I mean? That's recipe for disaster. You know what I'm saying? They didn't probably didn't ask to be in that situation where they raised by their mom or their grandmom or whatever the case may be, but that breeds a sense of um emotional, um, they become emotional at times, and they're emotional to get the best of them because they just sometimes raised by by women and it comes out. Whereas though boys who are raised by men sometimes, you know, just the numbers show, y'all can look at it and Google it. The numbers show that, you know, boys who are raised by, you know, both parents have a higher success rate. And boys who are raised by single parents, uh mothers, or grandmothers and things of that nature, they are, you know, sometimes be out of pocket a lot of times. And then, you know, the the success rate of a boy's raised by his father is very high as well. A father, I'm talking about a single father, because men sometimes implement good things into the into their child. Not saying the women don't, but just the the emotional factor of of females can be detrimental to the to the boys. And this is this is just uh numbers that we looked at as well.

SPEAKER_06 14:35

And um, I want to bring up a topic for the day. You know, we we just get up here and you know, we don't really have to say no topic because there's a lot that we know about before we even have to try to find the topic. A lot we try and learn about. Oh, exactly. Okay. Um, but we're we're on the topic right now of young men in America and anywhere, not just Philadelphia, but all over the country and all over the world, and how they may need men to help raise them. That's what my that's my opinion is. Would you say that's your first point? For sure, a thousand percent. And it's not downplaying the women because they need the mother they love too. Exactly. Yeah, for that part. But um, this right here piggybacks to our conversation at hand largely. Um Judge releases the 12-year-old accused of pinning a 12-year-old girl down and shoving rocks in her mouth so her friend so his friends could rape her. It's three boys that got locked up in Miami Dade, Florida. A Miami Dade judge, Richard Marshall, ruled that Nelson Nunes, 30, 13, the alleged ringleader of the gang rape, must remain in jail. He didn't give the gang, which was 13 years old, a boy. All three of these is boys. They didn't get a 13-year-old, they didn't let him go. But Joshua Jones, 12, was released but placed on strict house arrest. Okay. Boom. Now you have Xavier Thompson, who was 15, is out of custody, but is required, but is required to repair in court soon. He was 14 when the alleged attacks occurred. These dudes is locked up. This is a big case that's happening down right now in Florida. 14, 13, 12. These are ages of these three young men. You can't even call them young men yet, can you? These are boys. These is boys. These are kids. These ain't they ain't young men yet, is they? I can't classify them as young men. Nah, they're kids, man. 13. They're kids.

SPEAKER_07 16:28

14, 12. The judge is gonna treat them like young men, though.

SPEAKER_06 16:31

Okay, so look, one of the one of the guys who who who the the the alleged, you know, one of these guys they allege is they raped this girl for hours. Hours on end. Another little girl they raped. He was shoving rocks in her mouth in the little woods they was in while they held her for hours, raping her. He says he was going to go get pebbles of rocks like like what like 14, 13, 12. I keep going back to that for a reason. I was bad when I was 13. I ain't never thought about raping, like, you ever thought about taking some yams at 12 and 13 and fourth, like that. That I wanted some, I was hungry as shit. I I couldn't think about nothing but yams. My stomach was coming out my behind. I wasn't thinking about yams. And for you to carry this plot out, y'all had this girl for hours. Another kid, like they are. You say the kids, right? And we just this just piggyback off the conversation we just had about men being a like what the hell? Like, I I'm I'm I'm mind but feet. Can you help me?

SPEAKER_07 17:37

Because I usually can talk. I think I wouldn't think my dad would have punched me because he would, if he would have even thought I was thinking about something like that, he would have probably uh thinking about something like what, rape raping another girl.

SPEAKER_06 17:47

If he had something. You shoving rocks, like how do you know how to but you but you you see signs and stuff like that. No, you what sign you gonna see? Like my boy wanna rape something.

SPEAKER_07 17:56

Yeah, he might, you know, might be. No, what sign? Show him for me. Certain things they do. You just like sometimes they they say a lot of the the kids who be on stuff like that, they they be like harming harmful to animals um at a young age. Um they um just do stuff like weird stuff like that. But normally it shows something.

SPEAKER_06 18:14

That is one of that is one of the things. The show like they they you breaking cats' necks with stomping on them and stuff like that, stuff like that. Yeah, like I used to do harm, but yeah, yeah. You was there, you seen me burn plenty of cats with the cat, and that's not cool, y'all. I'm not saying that like that. That I was out of pocket, I was out my damn mind. The only thing exposed because I listen to it.

SPEAKER_07 18:35

I know that you love cats though.

SPEAKER_06 18:36

Damn. No, because even when we was like teenagers, yeah. Because I knew I was I was wrong, like, damn, man. But I'm trying to make a tone for it now.

SPEAKER_07 18:45

Yeah, but I'm saying, like, you know, I'm talking about I'm talking about little small age, like I'm talking about little kids like five, six, seven. Yeah, they have like a they just do stuff to kids. Little small animals, they they might do something to kill an animal. Like, I I saw that like who was the what was a serial killer who uh a couple of serial killers that I saw like started out like with the tickets. Yeah, like harming little animals.

SPEAKER_06 19:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 19:05

Stuff like that.

SPEAKER_06 19:05

So it's so these is one of the ticks that you look for.

SPEAKER_07 19:08

Like see, but that ain't got nothing to do with, right? They be fascinated a lot of time with their gent their genitals. A lot of times. Like they just, you know, do something crazy just to be fascinated with their genitals. Do you hear this man? No, I'm saying I've read, I mean, I saw that stuff on like uh was a uh Lifetime or something like that. A lot of the the young bulls be you know into certain little things, you'd be like, what the heck is going on with him? I mean, they burn themselves and do all types of stuff because they just they want to see things and things, people, animals in pain. And for for a kid to rape, like, but my thing is this though. Like all but listen. I can't really I I understand these young bulls did this to this girl, and it's totally wrong, totally out of line. But where was her parents at? Why is your daughter outside?

SPEAKER_06 19:55

I'm just saying, why are your daughter outside with boys? Well, we we really gotta get into the story for real. There might be a cousin or something like that. Maybe what to himself.

SPEAKER_07 20:02

That's what I'm saying. I don't know, but I don't know, but ultimately the judge is gonna hand is gonna throw the book at these little boys, right? Well, you put it this is the grown. She didn't die, but he gonna they'll probably get the maximum penalty for their age group, whatever. They don't get them, because they this trial is gonna be over before they turn 18. So they go they're gonna get a juvenile sentence, I'm assuming, right? Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 20:22

Or matter of fact, they're they're held with adult, they're certified. You could do you could commit a adult crime as a juvenile and get certified. That's called certified in the state of Pennsylvania. Yes, you can. So they got adult charges. You see, a judge gave them house arrests and all that. They got they got bonds and stuff like that, presumably. They can give house arrests as a kid, though. Yeah, they they do, but I'm saying that these are adult charges you got. Yeah, but they don't even charge them as a kid, though. No, no, no, no. You can get charged as an adult. Hold on. They abolish that. I don't know. They don't get 12 years old. Yes, you could you can get uh if you go out there and kill somebody, you're gonna get charged as an adult. You're not gonna get charged as a 12-year juvenile, a minor. No, they're gonna charge you as a grown-ass man. However, it is whatever it is. No, no, no, that's how it is. I'm you're talking about however. I'm telling you how it is. If you go out here, if your 14-year-old son goes through somebody in the head, he will be locked up with the juveniles, but he will have an adult case. He will be certified. He took it on himself, he took he did an adult crime. So he will be But it's unconstitutional to give juveniles life. That's why they give him 50 to 100. Uh, wefty five to one ten.

SPEAKER_07 21:31

We had the the uh uh the brother from Chester on the on the podcast. Right. And he said he got uh he got adjudicated and sentenced into a uh um uh um adult prison as a juvenile, like 15 years old. Yeah. But I don't know if they're doing that anymore.

SPEAKER_06 21:46

No, but but but no, they're gonna they're not gonna do that. They'll still keep you um until you turn 18. When you turn 18, that's when they sending you with the wolves. But you still serving out this sentence. Yeah, you're gonna get sentenced like a grown ass. Man.

SPEAKER_07 22:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 22:00

You'll walk out that joint. These dudes is getting 17, 18, 9, 16, getting 50 to 100 years. That's not no juvenile sentence. It's a grown man sentence. But they'll be classified with the juveniles until they're 18 and older, and then they'll go about their business in adult facilities.

SPEAKER_07 22:17

Wow. And the thing about it is this though, too, man. A lot of times them kids get worse. Why they're in jail. Because they're coming home now. Yeah. They're coming home stronger, taller, still with them vices sometimes.

SPEAKER_06 22:32

Yeah. Yeah. With these kids. Yeah, they kids.

SPEAKER_07 22:38

Sometimes they come home with these vices to come home stronger. Well, yeah, because they went in as their kids. Like, cause I'm just looking, I'm thinking about it. If my son ever did something like that and they came home, right? Do you trust him around your other kids, your daughters?

SPEAKER_06 22:49

No. No, it's nothing. I can't. And I'm sorry it was a pause in my reaction to you. But it's my son too. But I got younger daughters than him and stuff like that. Yeah, he could never be underneath that roof unsupervised around my baby. You? Heck no. How about you? Think about it. You said these kids home on house arrest, right? Well, no, no. One of them came home. The one came home, the one that stuffed the rocks and stuff in her mouth.

SPEAKER_07 23:19

Okay, now do you trust him around your other kids? Knowing what he did? No. So what do you do with him? Where do you put him at when they when they get him house arrest? How do you deal with a kid that's your child who's been charged with a a crime of rape or sexual assault or something other sense? And he's a small kid. You look at his kid like 60 pounds. And you're like, like, what the hell is going through your mind? Do you integrate him back with the with his siblings? Man. Or do you just have a separate house for him? I'll probably have to take him a house where me and him is at on only. He might try you.

SPEAKER_06 24:01

What? Come on, man. Shhh, man. This nigga right here crazy as hell, man. You never know. Yes, sir. Yeah, the 12-year-old son. He tried his cousin or something. If that was a relative to him, he ain't got no young man. You never like, but yeah, on all jokes aside, though, I'm not having him under the roof and I got girls and stuff in there. Nah. Yeah, you can't, you can't. Because I don't, and then this is he you got this at a young age, like you got this, this, this, whatever sickness or disease, whatever one may want to name it. You got this at the age of 12? How do you know? I I don't know, man. Like, I I'm stuck, man.

SPEAKER_07 24:39

You can't bring him around other kids. It's a no. It's a flat out no. It's a flat out, even though it's guilty and innocent until proven guilty, man. That little girl was on. I saw a little girl, I saw the interview part of the interview where she had like her face messed up and she was talking and so forth and so on. What? The little girl that with the rocks in the mouth and all that. Oh, you seen it? She had like she had like an hour messed up. She had something. I saw that. And she was like talking. And I'm sitting here looking at it, like, yo, I got little daughters. Like I got an eight-year-old and I got a 10-year-old. And I'm sitting here like, yo, like, young boy be on house arrest, like something might happen. Now that's when that's when I would be, like you said, grab the arms. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 25:18

Yeah. See, that's that's and then how do you treat it? But say you do get him out of crib and you got another crib and he's living with hot because it ain't done there. He is a sickness. How do you treat this? You're sitting there, you have to. Because he's gonna just tell you one day, all right. I'm not gonna do it no more.

SPEAKER_07 25:35

I'm not listening to that. Any little thing he does out of pocket, you gotta punch him, you gotta kick him, or see, I just gotta do something.

SPEAKER_06 25:40

No, man, you creating a monster, bro. You creating a damn monster, man.

SPEAKER_07 25:44

But every little thing. You gotta check him, though. Every little short coming, whatever he does that's out of pocket, you gotta check him on it. I ain't saying, no, I'm not saying beat him, hit him, but everything he does, you gotta be like, yo, don't, you gotta, you gotta be on him. And when he rang his sisters, his sisters or whoever, you gotta watch him, man. That's gonna make him be even sneakier with his ex. Yeah, well.

SPEAKER_06 26:05

That's a hell of an idol.

SPEAKER_07 26:07

I'm not turning a blind eye to him because it's my son.

SPEAKER_06 26:10

So you saying, like, that's your son and all, you know, 12 and 13, you can run down the street real fast. They in there, they cool, and they ain't something you gotta keep an eye on. 12 and 13, they a little age of understanding. You wouldn't walk down the street and leave them unsupervised, like they in the backyard chilling.

SPEAKER_07 26:24

No, once once that came out, that came out the you know, like, yo, because that's a sickness that grows within the individuals. So therefore, he probably like, you know, whatever happened in that act, he probably may have for him to go on and keep going on away for two hours. It was something that was fascinating to him that made him continue to do it. So his hunger may still be like, I'm gonna try this again. So, but that that you moving him to a crib with you, that's it? That's that's the remedy. That's the remedy. Eat only with me until the outcome of this case, and then after the case, I'm still not integrating you back in with my daughters. I'm still not, I'm I don't care how you feel. All right, so how do you help? Because that's not helping him treat it, okay? I don't know, son. I gotta I gotta figure it out, but I'm not gonna have you with my kids, and then something else happened.

SPEAKER_06 27:11

So, but what is what did what comes to mind right now? Just just thinking with the start of treatment for him. Like, because him do be busy about therapy.

SPEAKER_07 27:18

Therapy. I'm I'm I'm what therapy or therapy, him talking to a doctor like you can't do it.

SPEAKER_06 27:24

Talking to him, you know, praying with him and would you or he go through therapy for four or five years? Would you trust him or ring your baby? I still wouldn't trust him really fully.

SPEAKER_07 27:32

I wouldn't either. So it's a sickness. It could be an addiction like that.

SPEAKER_06 27:35

So you'll never trust him for the rest of your life then?

SPEAKER_07 27:38

Probably wouldn't. I know I wouldn't.

SPEAKER_06 27:40

Probably wouldn't. Once you have done that act. And that might destroy our relationship. It is. And I'm I'm am I-Cause I don't trust you then. Yeah, but the relationship is destroyed. If I don't trust you, I don't really like you. And then of course I can't wait to get away from you. Me anyway. How about you, Vika, if you don't trust me? You can come around me all the time? No, I couldn't. Yeah, because I don't, I don't, I don't even want to be around you, but if I'm around you, I'm on high alert because I don't trust you. And then I'm as soon as you get from around me, a sigh of relief.

SPEAKER_07 28:08

It's guys we know that it's guys we know that's around us that I wouldn't trust around my kids because of things that I've heard that they may have done.

SPEAKER_06 28:14

Right.

SPEAKER_07 28:15

You know, so therefore I'm like, I'm standoff is when it comes to my kids. I would never bring my family if I seen a person, person, certain certain people touching or hugging my daughters, you know, I'm a snap. You know, because you know, that's and but I choose not to bring bring my family around certain gatherings where I think people may be. Because sometimes it's worse for when people know a person did a certain act and then like sweep it under the rug because of who the person may be. I ain't with all that, man. I'm not with all that, man. I'm not with all that, man. I'm not sweeping under the rug because this person can be still harming harming people, man. Or can grow up and start harming more people. That's my son. Our relationship is gonna be a little different now because you did something that you wasn't supposed to do that can be a sickness, which means that you can harm more people.

SPEAKER_06 29:07

And so would you would you would you put this out here like that? He's going to school and stuff. Like, I think that's something that authorities should be notified about, or would you keep it a secret? He's gonna be homeschooled. He's a sex, he is. Oh, you wouldn't even send him to school. No, no school is gonna accept him as a sex offender. No, no, but they don't know if you move, if that happened in Westfield.

SPEAKER_07 29:23

No, you gotta register no matter how old he is. They probably gotta register. Yeah, I'm assuming.

SPEAKER_06 29:27

No, you're saying they probably got, I don't know. I don't know if a juvenile got to be a good thing.

SPEAKER_07 29:30

But as a sex offender, what y'all what y'all think, y'all? If you're a sex offender, I'm assuming no matter your age, you have to register as a sex offender in your in your community. So therefore, if he if that's the case, he's not gonna be able to go to no public schools around no other kids. He's gonna be homeschooled or something.

SPEAKER_06 29:45

I don't know. Or a board of school, but still. But if he was to go to school, would you let teachers and principals know of your son's deficiencies? Your son, this is still your son at the time.

SPEAKER_07 29:55

Yeah, you gotta warn, you gotta warn the people, man. So you would?

SPEAKER_06 29:58

You'll be like, yo, my son got an incident where though he didn't do some wild shit with a girl, so be extra attentive to when you're gonna be able to do it.

SPEAKER_07 30:03

No, I'm no no I wouldn't. No, no, that wouldn't do. I wouldn't just went, he just could be homeschooled. So you wouldn't even send him to public school. No. You wouldn't even because he's a danger to people, and I'm not gonna be like the person, like, oh, he turned turn a blind eye to it because we'd be do it again. Now, now I'm feeling sad for the people because I'm like, damn, I didn't let him. It's my fault. I I I unleashed him into the school where his other innocent kids at, and he just may have just took it upon himself to indulge in some things they shouldn't be indulging in.

SPEAKER_06 30:32

But again, Fek, I'm over here messed up, bro. And it's it's gonna sound crazy, but it's just a fact. I would not expect but and not understand, but I can see a grown man getting charged with these charges of him raping a woman. A 12-year-old child, like y'all out there three deep raping one woman, 12, 13, 14. All y'all numbers is in order. Y'all gotta how old was she? How old was she? I forget. I don't know. She was under 10. Damn. And you know to put rocks in her mouth, you know, muffle her from whatever screams she's having. Um, that's why you put the rocks in there to muffle it, the choir up, where y'all can continue your acting silence, whatever devious stuff y'all was doing. Um, you 12, man. And I'm gonna go into the oldest boy out there at the time. 14. 14 years. What company is you sitting around? Like, because when I was 14, 15 years old, man, the most I was doing, man, was in the market. I was still in pounds of, I go to the counter, man, can I get a pound of turkey breasts? Whole time, I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm foaming at the mouth. I'm tucking that joint all underneath nuts and everything, sliding out, a loaf of bread under arm. This is what I'm doing at 13, 14 years old. I'm not looking at no girl walking in the street like, I'm getting her. That was never an option. I'm trying to eat out this joint. I'm saying, think about it. We grew up together, cuz what was your on your mind?

SPEAKER_07 32:07

Yeah, just something other than that. I'm not doing nothing. I never did nothing like that. But people, it's just the the narrative of, you know what I mean, something enticed him, and then what who do we who do we blame it on? Maybe something he saw on TV. Or maybe he just wanted to have sex and he just went about it in a manner of taking taking it from somebody, and that's terrible. It's terrible. You know, and that's just a bad thing. And he may have done it, done it before. Or just think about who may also gotta think about too, sometimes somebody might might have done something to them. To him. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So now he's just acting off of what happened to him, thinking that it's cool. And these are things that's that that goes on, and it's sad, but ultimately these young boys are gonna do some time. They're gonna do some time in prison. They're gonna be shipped out, and then they may get to jail, and then what happens to the people that do these things in jail? Nine times out of ten, what? They targets, right?

SPEAKER_06 33:01

Yes. Supercharges. They ain't got nothing sweet coming for them in there at all. Um, here go another one, right?

SPEAKER_07 33:10

Uh hold on, let me say something too why why you f why you do that? Shout out to um Jalen Doran, Detroit Pistons. Shout out to you, bro. Appreciate the support. He was a uh been an all-star. Shout out to Jalen Doran. Shout out to you, bro. Thanks for supporting. He's from Philly, too. He's from the from the area, man. He made it out, man. You know, we gotta congratulate him, but go ahead, yo.

SPEAKER_06 33:36

Okay. We got some real like wild stuff that people go to jail for. I don't know if people know they can go to jail, but a woman was arrested, was arrested after locking pizza delivery driver inside for movie night. Oh, she said, I just wanted some company for the film. Okay, alright, so boom. This wasn't dinner in a movie. It was dinner and you're not leaving. Police say a 27-year-old woman was arrested after allegedly locking a pizza delivery driver inside her home because she didn't want to watch the movie alone. Yes, the delivery driver. According to authorities, the situation started like any normal order. Pizza arrives, door opens, transaction happens. Except this time it didn't end there. Investigators say the woman allegedly closed and locked the door after the driver entered, insisting he stay and watch a movie with her. She told him it would be quick. One source said it wasn't. The driver reportedly tried to leave, but quickly realized he wasn't going anywhere. Neighbors say the situation escalated after the driver managed to contact help, leading to police being called to the scene. Officers arrived to find what they described as a very confused delivery driver in a very committed movie night. Authorities say that the woman allegedly admitted she just wanted some company for the film. A statement that has since gone viral. She was taken into custody without incident and now faces charges related to the unlawful restraint. Meanwhile, the driver is safe and probably rethinking ever delivering from now on.

SPEAKER_07 35:07

I want to say something too, man. Like I just want to say this to you, man. Um we was kids, right? I never thought you'd be able to read that like that, man. You think so? Yeah, you do you did a hell of a job, man.

SPEAKER_06 35:19

When we were kids, oh my God. Give me some, man. Give me some, man. Thank you, man. Thank you. I ain't gonna go get mad over here. I've been in the class like cat, man. But yeah, yeah. Thank you for the knowledge, but man. I'm doing good. I'm remote for that romantic.

SPEAKER_07 35:39

Sheesh, man. Came a long way from uh second to third grade. But yeah, so these things, um This woman. What is woman doing this thing to I mean, did she rape him? What is she? Did she just say that?

SPEAKER_06 35:52

No, she just locked him in the crib. Kept him hostage?

SPEAKER_07 35:54

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 35:55

He probably like, yo.

SPEAKER_07 35:57

Yeah. So he, I mean, it depends.

SPEAKER_06 36:00

Was she was she a pretty woman? Was she yeah, she's pretty. Oh yeah? She's pretty. If we could have had it on the this weekend, we're gonna be starting crazy clips, so y'all gonna start seeing a lot of what we talking about.

SPEAKER_07 36:10

Yeah, man. I mean, if she was pretty, man, you know, he ain't he ain't having no wife at the time or whatever because he would chill watch a movie, man, you know. You call on the cops on that? You calling the cops for that?

SPEAKER_06 36:20

Nah. She locked the door up, yeah, man. Because I'm getting out of there anyway. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 36:24

Unless she overstronging me. No, no, no. But then again, you don't know what she's up to. She can drink and drink the next thing. Oh no, I ain't doing none of that. None of that. Yeah. It might be. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 36:36

She, I know she lost her goddamn mind.

SPEAKER_07 36:39

She went to jail behind that. Mm-hmm. Like, yeah. Like, come on now. And what what what is that? What's that charge? Uh simple kidnapping?

SPEAKER_06 36:48

No, that that that that I don't know, man. I don't even know. There's something to do with kidnapping, though. Yeah. It's against your own will, and I got you somewhere. You know what I'm saying? But how about we got the police officer arrested for stealing from Delaware County store. This police officer, right? She's a Philadelphia police officer arrested for stealing from Delaware County store. Makai Bell is accused of stealing$55 worth of items at TJ Maxx, then attempted to run away. She was previously in the news for being the first female to join the Central Service Detail Unit. This is an officer. This is a lady, a black officer. That just goes to show no one is exempt from crime. No one. I don't care if you a lawyer, a doctor, as you can see, cops break law. Um, judge, you know, you have them going down for taking bribes. And no one is exempt from doing the wrong thing, man. No one is a hundred percent innocent. Everybody has a mode of them where they can make a choice, either left or right. You know what I'm saying? So my thing of being a good person, man, is doing things when no one else can see it. That's right. You know what I mean? It's easy for me to get up here and have a facade for y'all and talk about putting the guns down and leave the drugs alone and don't be in the street doing this and that. And then as soon as you know the cameras turn off, I'm going out here busting traps, 90 going north. 90 going north. That makes me a hypocrite. Yes, it does. But we have a lot of people in the world like that. And on a larger scale, the people that patrol our streets, not all of them, but you have some. I'm not saying that all the police officers out here in Philadelphia is corrupt. They out here trying to send, no, I'm not. That's not the message I'm sending because that's that would be an absolute lie. Yeah. But you have your rotten apples in every organization, group, house, whatever you want to call it. You know, and I think for an officer of that status, being the first black woman to be a part of this, you know, division unit and this and that, that's a bad look, man.

SPEAKER_07 38:57

Just think about like Reynolds in them. Yeah, I mean, yeah, detective Reynolds. Yeah, just think about Reynolds. Eric Walker and Brian Reynolds. Just think about them. What they used to be doing in the neighborhood, and then what happened? They come out to be corrupt. How many people cases got thrown out behind them? Man, hundreds.

SPEAKER_06 39:10

Hundreds. They had to go open a book some five, six years ago. Yeah, because let them dudes go home, man.

SPEAKER_07 39:16

These because they what they didn't just become foul. They always been fouled and always been that way. Just think about it. They just always been that way. So now they get caught. Now let's go look and see what they really have been doing over their career. And these cases look a little shaky. These testimonies probably crazy because they just because I think do they get like a commission or a bonus for like arrests and all that stuff? Who? Like the uh police officer.

SPEAKER_06 39:43

I don't know.

SPEAKER_07 39:44

They get paid um overtime when they go to court, I believe. I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_06 39:47

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. When they go to court, it's still paid. It's still paid time.

SPEAKER_07 39:51

Yeah, something like that. I'm not sure. What is that, y'all, when they go to court? Do cops get uh overtime paid, or they get a you know, something time and a half? I don't, I don't know. But I know that these cops have, you know, are sending people to jail, but they they just as dirty as the people that they're arresting. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. They are, you know, I saw something one day I was watching, and the bull had his phone uh rolling and the cop ain't even know. And the cop threw like a package. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. In the back, in the backseat. In the back seat.

SPEAKER_06 40:17

That's why I say I saw you do that, man. And again, we're not up here saying that law enforcement is all criminal. No, they're human beings. That's what we're saying. These people in certain positions of life, regardless of what robe they wear, referring to judges, what uniform they wear, referring to lawyers, doctors, uh, DAs, at the end of the day, they're human beings, man, and human beings is not exempt from doing wrong, man. Yeah. Just because I got this blue uniform on, black and blue, and I got the badge on, what they say, the, what they say, your honor on this shield. I got this shield that you take an oath to, that you get up there and put your hand on a Bible and you say some words, and that's supposed to mean. Nah, that don't mean nothing, man. What count at the end of the day is the human being that you are, man. If you ain't no great human being, man, you know, as we know today, there's a lot of not great, no matter what work field you're in, there's always somebody in there that's a piece of shit, man, and that's just it.

SPEAKER_07 41:15

Just look at the count of the jails. I mean, how many people how many guards get walked out of there? True. How many people guards you heard lost their jobs because of what? They're trying to make some extra money and trying to bring some contraband into the prison. They're trying to, you know, you know.

SPEAKER_06 41:27

They're human beings, bro. They're human beings. No matter what hat you are wearing, you are a human being. You're not an alien, you're not sophisticated, you're not of this other earth. No, you are a human being, so you're susceptible to break law, as you can see. This was the first black woman to be a part of, you know, uh uh, whatever her unit is or whatever in Philadelphia. And here she is out here, you know, betraying that shield that she wears, not upholding the law. She is an officer, an officer of order, of civilization. They entrusted her with this, and she goes steal$55. And I ain't met, you know, a crime is a crime, but god damn, if you're gonna do go steal$55 million. I'm not saying go do that. I'm just talking to y'all. Y'all know I'm burnt out. I'm not saying do that, but I would respect it better. Like, okay, but shit, you went and stole$55 worth of candy. Police officer. Why?

SPEAKER_07 42:25

Come on, man. Yeah. So man, basically, you know, in these situations and scenarios, a lot of times people are just going off of because sometimes people want more. You can be making some money, but like, man, I can use the extra$20,000. I can use the extra$10,000. That stuff just be enticing. Extra$5,000. Actually, the stack. Get this, uh, get uh get these uh these drugs into the prison. And and and they probably doing it for five, six, ten different inmates every month. And they making maybe two, I mean the numbers 2,400 to get how much I forget how much we were paying. Man,$2,500,$3,000. Yeah, somewhere around there. But they're doing that with maybe five, ten different inmates every month. Or possibly something every week. Yeah. So they caking up, you know what I'm saying? Mm-hmm. Doing it for two, three years before the they run is done. Yeah, so you know, and these things happen at an alarming rate, and people are doing these things, but it just happens to be that sometimes you're gonna get caught, you know, and people just trying to make money. You know, and then, you know, uh this the rev rewind back to what we were saying about um the big homies in prison. Like you've been in the feds, right? Yeah. It had to be had to be some guys around that just wasn't into no type of criminal activity, right? Some older guys that just like, I'm gonna go to work, come back. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 43:41

Those guys never got no write-ups. Yeah, I'm not gonna say never gotten no write ups. They went through their bumps, especially if they're old timers and been in jail for the majority of their life. They did things. They had to, you gotta get to that point, Vic. When you a convict, when you a criminal coming in, you ain't thinking about, you know, walking a straight path. You gotta get to. A peace, an inner peace in yourself. When you're a hardened concrete convict or a criminal that's used to being out there, you gotta find an inner peace in yourself to let that shit go, man. And the inner peace is doing something behind someone's back that is good. Because it's easy for me to sit up here and portray like people don't know us. We could have all the dope in the city, which we don't. We really up here, but you know, at the end of the day, when the cameras go off, you know, another side might pop out. You might not get tall feet no more, you might not get Braheen no more. You know what I'm saying? So you gotta keep this in your mind, man. You gotta be aware of this, man, that you know, just because of what a person shows you on Facebook, you don't know what they're doing behind that comes through time. You find out who a real person is. You know what I'm saying? And don't matter what hat they wear. When I say hat meaning position, whether it's the the doctor hat, the police officer hat, the lawyer hat, no matter which one. You know, at the end of the day, they human beings, man.

SPEAKER_07 44:57

Yeah, agreed. Agreed. Agreed, man. And just, you know, everybody, I just want to say something to everybody out here, because we we spoke about, you know, these uh these these uh you know pedophiles or the young bulls who commit these lewd acts. Protect your family, man. You know, if you if if your kids don't live with you, your kids, you know, live somewhere else, we gotta protect your protect your family, man. You know, you can't always entrust somebody else to do the do the job for you. You know, somebody said something to me today, I was like, wow, you know, abort some things to my tent. I'm like, wow. But so I'm telling y'all, like, you know, you got kids, man, make sure y'all attend to your kids, man. Because you just never know what they what they can go through, man. And then sometimes when when Lou acts habits such as like rape, it affects the kids permanently. They never can get past that. You know what I'm saying? Somebody took something something from them. Something of great value. Yeah, and I'm I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm just talking about we look we look at the actual aspect of the rape, which is horrible, but the more damaging part is the physical and I'm sorry, the mental, the the the mental damage that happens. The psyche, yeah. Yeah, this yeah, yeah, it's like they they they never probably be the same.

SPEAKER_06 46:08

Yeah, they won't. That's a traumatizer, man. You won't. I done went through foster care all my life, man. And alhamdulillah, man, all praise is due to God, man, that I was never in a position where I was touched. I done had everything happen to me but that. Alhamdulillah. Been branded with cigarettes, locked in dog cages, and that's just another story for another day of how some people would treat, you know, minors or kids for them to act out and to be the way that they are. But you know, but that being touched on or molested, like raped, especially by the same sex, and you don't you a kid and you don't even that that that'll that'll that'll follow you to your grave, bro. Mm-hmm. To your grave.

SPEAKER_07 46:48

And you know, we do these um these meetings sometimes because you know, due to the business that we in, and type of business that we in, we you deal with youth that have been that have mental issues, and then their mental issues come from them and a lot of these cases come from mistreatment. And when you look at the lot of the kids' caseloads, it includes things like they have been raped, you know, and normally when they when they are raped, they're raped by somebody that's close to them. And it's sad, it'd be like, you know, you alright? Crying about the cry?

SPEAKER_06 47:21

No, no, no.

SPEAKER_07 47:22

Alright. So So that so that so that they be raped by like people that's close to them and things of that nature, like you know what I'm saying? And it's always the person that's non-time, like I said, it's always somebody close to close to you that that you know that that has been entrusted with your child, you know, and it's and it's sad. So be careful, y'all. You know, cherish your children, man, protect them as much as you can. Uh make sure that you um, you know, you are there for them as much as possible because at the end of the day, you can't expect one parent to be able to, you know, hold hold them down and maintain them. They need both parents, whether y'all together or separated. So that's that's what it is for me, man. Now, um, you know, we're about to get to these phone calls, man. So listen, I want to say this to y'all, man. I just want to say something, man. You know, the troll, what is it called? Trolls? Yeah. The little the trolls, because this is a new word for me, trolls, the trolls and people that want to call in and say crazy stuff. You're more than welcome to do that. But just know, like, it's not, it's not the place for that, man. You know, we're here trying to have grown-up conversation. We're here trying to talk, you know, here trying to build, because a lot of these um conversations that we're having have affected many of our households, whether your brother going to jail, your mother going to jail, your sister going to jail, cousin going to jail, friend going to jail, uncle going to jail. Somebody has been affected and oppressed by prison for whatever reason. So therefore, we want to have a positive conversation. We want to laugh, we want to joke, you know, we want to have a good time, but we don't want to be negative. So, y'all know the number, man. The number is 215-316-4492. That's 215-316-4492. Mm-hmm. Yeah, man, we got a real. I agree with you. Uh uh. What? Yeah, yo, I don't allow my kids to spend night nowhere. I don't. I don't allow it. I don't allow that. I I agree with you, Kev. Kev money beats. I agree with you. I don't allow my kids to spend night nowhere. Dark skin beauty, we feel I'm the same way with y'all, man. I'm the same way. I I agree. I don't allow my kids to spend night over the white house and all that. You know what I'm saying? Tell some of the jails we speaking with today.

SPEAKER_05 49:40

Oh, you speaking with Cam from Maryland.

SPEAKER_07 49:42

What's up, Cam? How you doing, man?

SPEAKER_05 49:44

What's going on?

SPEAKER_07 49:45

Shout out to Murray.

SPEAKER_05 49:46

I got a question for you.

SPEAKER_06 49:47

What's up, talk to me?

SPEAKER_05 49:49

So, like, you always talk about the uh your 21 that you spent in the feds, right?

SPEAKER_03 49:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 49:55

So, like, when you got hit with those murders initially before you before you went to the feds, what was going to your mind? And at any point, did you think you was cooked?

SPEAKER_06 50:04

Yeah, I always thought I was, you know, lightweight cook, like, damn, man, then the streets, man. You know, when you young, man, and you going for certain type of things like that, your mind be all over the place. You know, so you know, but you know, went to trial and you know, came up off of it was like more so of a damn a relief. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, you you definitely definitely be like, I'm gonna be here forever.

SPEAKER_05 50:28

Nah, I definitely can feel that. But yeah, nah, that was all I wanted to ask. Um I like the show. You know, I definitely love what y'all are doing. I ain't never been in jail and I'm, you know. But the show definitely a good reminder to say my ass and I.

SPEAKER_06 50:41

Man, please stay, man. Listen, man, trust me, man. Trust me. It's way more beneficial than it's not. Stay free, bro.

SPEAKER_05 50:48

You too. Y'all be safe.

SPEAKER_07 50:50

You too. Yeah, man, because you know, I see people in the comments speaking about, you know, the kids, and sometimes people I've I've noticed people feel some type of way about me, like, damn, you want to let your kids spend with my career. I'm like, nah. And these are the people that it's not no no no disrespect to you. It's just that I don't trust people with my kids. I just don't.

SPEAKER_06 51:13

And I ain't mad at you for that.

SPEAKER_07 51:14

I don't trust. I got I got and then I got four. My son is is grown down and married, but I got four girls. And people are like, you don't let your kids, but y'all come over my career because I know I'm a supervisor situation.

SPEAKER_09 51:24

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_07 51:24

You know what I'm saying? But people, kids, I don't I don't I don't let my kids go places because I don't know what's going on over there. And I'm not gonna sleep, I'm not gonna sleep well at night knowing that they somewhere else.

SPEAKER_06 51:34

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_09 51:35

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_06 51:37

Who will? Who will sleep? Well, I ain't gonna say who will because you gotta be a good one. Some people let their kids go over anybody how for days on end. Yeah, like you know, for days on end. You ain't checked in 72 hours. Oh, that's my girlfriend. They all cool over there. And the girlfriend may not be on no creep stuff, but whoever she got around might be on it. Yeah. Like it's a whole lot of entities into this, this, this, this, this rape stuff, man, this stuff that's going on.

SPEAKER_07 52:00

Mm-hmm. Calling y'all 215-316-4492. That's 215-316-4492. So everybody can call in, man. I forgot about yesterday I gave a shout out to somebody. I gave a shout out to my guys uptown. But I forgot my guy, uh, my uh my guy Steve, man. My big bro up there. He knows who he is. You know what I mean? I gotta, dang, I gotta find out, I gotta get his airdress for his barbershop. I'm gonna get it and put it because that's my guy. If you want to get you know a crazy haircut, this mart, this mart, this mut, this is my big bro. He cut, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_06 52:36

Where you at?

SPEAKER_07 52:36

He up, he cut it, he cut uptown right right off of right by the Hess gas station, I believe. Up Uptown. I'll talk to him. That guy get up there and go and go. I've been telling him I'm gonna come through because I got a crazy. He only wanted probably one of the only people that can cut my hair because I got a crazy hairline. Tell us from the jails who he's speaking to.

SPEAKER_05 52:53

Oh, Bet, Richard Allen.

SPEAKER_07 52:55

Oh, Richard Allen Project, shout out you, bro. What's up, man? What's going on?

SPEAKER_05 52:59

Yeah, there's a few things. So I remember the boy said that nut stuff talking about Ring from Richard Allen, and he said that's just the black out of pocket. But it it made me call my man Ring from down there. And he said, um, he actually uh no black. But it wasn't that dude.

SPEAKER_07 53:18

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 53:19

I mean, because he he referred to black as youngin', and I think that's like a nickname that really a lot of people don't know.

SPEAKER_09 53:25

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_05 53:26

Right. And a black. Yeah. Yo, you told the story about my cousin, man, Michael McRae.

SPEAKER_06 53:32

Michael McCrae. Oh, you talk about Rusty? Yes, yes, I did.

SPEAKER_05 53:37

I never heard that, y'all.

SPEAKER_06 53:39

Yeah, well, yeah, we'll we'll hold that joint dear to you. That's one of the many crazy ones he got.

SPEAKER_05 53:44

Listen, I got a quick one.

SPEAKER_06 53:46

Right.

SPEAKER_05 53:47

So I was selling cars. This is uh about like 2020. And um, my cousin, which is uh Russ's nephew, went to go make the deal for me. A lot of bulls started walking towards the car with the money and then ring. So, I mean, he had the keys and everything. So Russ went to the bull folks crib in full guard. They didn't expect to hear no man's voices from out of this guard. He said, Listen, tell y'all son to get that back. Got that money back in 30 minutes.

SPEAKER_06 54:21

Man, listen, man. Listen, man, and listen, and for one for one not one second do I not believe that happened and a whole lot more that I'm not hearing about.

SPEAKER_05 54:32

Yeah, I think there's a lot that I can't even really say on this joint.

SPEAKER_06 54:36

As you say, we're yeah, we ain't in the go, nobody, we don't want nobody going to jail, so we're gonna go ahead and keep our peace.

SPEAKER_05 54:41

That's right, that's right. Hold up. Another thing, uh, y'all had black up there. I didn't see black since I was 10 years old.

SPEAKER_07 54:49

What black? Which one?

SPEAKER_05 54:51

JBM.

SPEAKER_07 54:52

Black Curz. Oh, Kev Black, yes. Oh, shout out to Kev. I saw him there to mess you, too. Shout out to old head Kev Black.

SPEAKER_05 54:58

Listen, if can y'all get black my number? Because he's doing something with like something positive. I'm on the same thing. Like, I ain't see him and Cuz. Like, that's that's uh Lenny Black. I mean, Lenny Rossel uh nickname recording cuz.

SPEAKER_07 55:13

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 55:14

So last time I seen him, we was all on Richard Allen. Uh just to say shower posse came down there and they got turned away by Black and Now. So yeah. If y'all get uh my name's Little Moon Mean, I'm I'm Bruce Kennedy's nephew, big Moon Mean grandson. Like uh black can know who I am. Like if y'all can like get a message.

SPEAKER_07 55:38

Hit us up, hit us up on the gram. Hit us up on IG, send us a DM. All right, and I'll set it up for y'all. I got you, bro.

SPEAKER_05 55:44

I appreciate it. I'm I'm welcome.

SPEAKER_07 55:47

So now hey uh shout out to uh staff M4612 for becoming a member. We appreciate you, man. We appreciate all members and all subscribers, everybody who's who's been following the channel, everybody who's been supporting us a thousand percent, whatever it is in any way. I don't care if you like something, you shared something, whatever you have done, I want to uh you know say thank you. And once again, shout out to uh you know our guy from Philly, the center for the uh uh Detroit Pistons, first year all-star, you know, Mr. Doran. He don't he doing his thing, man. Shout out to you, bro. What's the number from the calling feet? 215-316-4492. That's 215-316-4492. Call in now. You know what I mean? That way we that way we can talk to y'all, man. You know, when you look at, you know, just look at like uh where you come from, right? You know, everything that we did coming up from the streets, like coming up, you know, from you know, whatever little kids, teenagers, young adults, you know, you doing extensive prison time and now being here, where we at right now in life, what we trying to, what we trying to accomplish in life. You know what's the main thing you trying to accomplish, man? Like what's your what's your main your main thing that you want that you want in our life? Like something like this is the main thing I want. And I I'll answer that for you. I think me, I just want um I want peace. And I made a decision that you know, because for so many years and so much, so many, so much time in my life, I've always put people before I put myself. Right? I've did that for so many years. I put people before I put myself. And not saying that it is wrong, but people aren't appreciative of things like that. So now today, going forward, I'm gonna put myself first. Wanna do that, man. I advise everybody else to do that because you can't save everybody, you don't save yourself. You know what I mean? So try to save yourself first, and then if you save yourself, for me, save yourself and you can save everybody else after that. But you gotta try to save yourself, man. Don't put anybody before you, before you. You can't take care of your kids, you can't save your kids if you don't save yourself. You can't take care of your wife and save your wife if you don't save yourself. You gotta save yourself first, put yourself first, you know what I'm saying? And then everybody else will fall in line. But for you, like what is it that you that you want out of life? What is it that you want to do? Shout out to, I'm sorry, I'm gonna cut you off. So uh Miss Mrs. No, Ms. Mr. Sandman, shout out to Mr. Sandman 89.97. I sound like you when we went when you was in third or fourth grade. So he said, as a father of daughters, what do you think about the rap music today that disrespects and sexualizes women? I think it's terrible, but I take I think it's terrible, but people don't don't um gravitate to nothing other than you talking about, you know, you want to be nice to a woman if you rap in about it. You can sing about it, being nice to a woman, but you can't rap about being nice. I mean, you can rap about being nice to women too, but it's just that rap music, man, is it's so unfortunate that it's just if you really listen to a rap, it's about neg negativity. Everything is about being negative, nine times out of ten. And what can we do about it? We can try to tell our kids they don't listen, don't listen to music, you know, listen to music, but their companionship may listen to music and it's gonna but people sometimes don't even pay certain things no mind really. She's so used to hearing it that she doesn't even bother. Or horror, or ho, these hoes is this, is whatever, these whores is this. They hear it so much that they don't they they still just dance into it, they don't they don't even pay no mind. And then they may start looking at themselves as that. Really? You dancing to it, so maybe that's what you think you are. But it just becomes normalized to them because they hear it so much, you know. But uh, I would advise people that got daughters to sit with your daughters, talk to your daughters about you know life and and and being you know a good woman, you know. And maybe they might if when they hear these things, they might they might be like, I ain't that's not who I am. You know, so I would try to stick to that. But calling y'all 215-316-4492. What do you think about that, young? Do they they think the music, you know, is women uh what do you say? I read it again. As a father of daughters, what do you think about the rap music today that disrespects and sexualizes women? What do you think about it, young?

SPEAKER_06 1:00:39

I'm I'm saying to each his own, man, like if you got a household that, you know, because you got a lot of people that like a lot of different stuff.

SPEAKER_07 1:00:46

Tell us from the jail. So he's speaking with Go ahead.

SPEAKER_06 1:00:50

Yeah, so you know, you got you got you know, you might got a household that don't have daughters. So whereas though you have one that do have daughters, I can't say it's over because music is meant to entertain, not be taken literally and go ahead and start doing what they saying. And that comes from whoever the parents may be to indoctrinate that. Music ain't what make people go wrong, it's them listening to it. Like the one bull said, he talked about the Yerkes and all that all day long and never took a drug in his life. But he raps about the fast. So Who was that?

SPEAKER_07 1:01:21

Uh you're talking about it was the other day.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:23

Yeah, but but so I don't, I won't go ahead and that's how this entertainment, that's how this man makes his money. So I'm not gonna say, yeah, but you know, you you want it, you know, if if you feel as though this is wrong for you to each his own, cut it off. Don't let them listen to that. Because it is, they they do be talking about, you know, some wild stuff, chick cheeks clapping and clapping and clapping and putting them on the ground and bounce them all around. Yeah, I don't want my little seven-year-old hearing no shit like that.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:46

I don't want my 14, 15-year-old.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:48

Or well, you know, with it's something that's out there clapping them and japping them at 15 and 15 and 16 and all that.

SPEAKER_07 1:01:53

But they don't be clapping them when the music came on. I was in um, I was in a I don't want to say that the seafood's boiled spot, but I was in a seafood boil spot, and it was a little, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was a uh a group of girls, like two, three girls, and they had like the kids with them, and they had their phone. And they was like, sun came on, so I'm sitting eating, and then the sun came on on the phone, and they like, hey, hey, and the little girls on the table dancing. Yeah. It's just a little small, like two or three old sheet dancing.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:23

They was probably happy they got their little seafood bags. People gonna get them once a month and shit like that. That shit don't come every other day and shit like that. Them joints is husky.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:30

That joint was wham into it.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:32

Can you pay for it with EBT in there? I don't know, I didn't try that. Because if you can't, that's a long listen. That's like once a month, once I was seafood, boy, them joints like eight hours a bag. It's crunchy out this job.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:43

It was whammed to it.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:44

They probably all in there, then hands on your knees, holding the bags and hands on your knee, no eggs on your knees, yeah. All that. Yeah, I got that's probably why they dancing. So just give them a little great.

SPEAKER_07 1:02:53

Give them a little great grace, but what I was saying to you that they they are they are in uh incorporating music into the kids at such a young age, whereas though they hear certain things, but they they become numb to it. Somebody call a woman a B I T C H or Ho or whore. It's just from young age, it's just it's normalized. Whereas though, you know, back in the day, you couldn't call nobody, you know, no, no whore, no woman or whore, no, no B I T C H and get away with it. Back in what day? Back in the day that's more like, you know, back in days like, you know. Before us. Yeah, yeah, before we get used to us.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:28

I was about to say, because boy, I was letting it fly.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:31

It now has has has evolved, but I'm saying back when our grandmom's. Oh, all right. I'm putting you something.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:37

I was getting cores and stuff. Who wasn't getting caught whores when we was growing up? Well, they was all types of whores.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:42

Yeah, but you know, I think at the time we were younger, a loot cat had just came out. Remember Luke?

SPEAKER_06 1:03:48

Uh freak boy. No, stop getting it.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:50

Yeah, he had the he had the hoodle smash with the.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:53

Oh, stupid, yeah, yeah. I wanna rock. I would have all that. Yeah, you yeah, all that.

SPEAKER_07 1:03:59

Yo, you was the boys dancing and all that too, but yeah. But yeah, man, so this is what this is where we at now. So it came from all the way back times our grandmoms all the way up to here now.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:11

Grain rolled over two, three times in that grave. Oh my eyes. And then that's just a more metaphor about when people say that.

SPEAKER_07 1:04:18

Yeah, but I'm just saying now is like where's gonna be in the next 30 years? You think we got like another 30 years in this?

SPEAKER_06 1:04:25

Man, I probably got about cool 17 to a dub left.

SPEAKER_07 1:04:30

Chris 5217, man. Thanks, man. Appreciate you. What we got online? Who he speaking with?

SPEAKER_01 1:04:37

Assalamu alaikum.

SPEAKER_07 1:04:39

Wa alaikum assalamu rakkum to Allah, he's a better cat too.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:43

This is Brother Nadine. I just got a question for uh for you for actually you, okay. Um when um when black when black went down, I I know you said before that that you did have a little bit of time yourself, but not a major um at the time when black was down for the time that he did. How did you genuinely feel about that? Like, you know, knowing knowing all the things that that you overcame and you and you died. How did you feel? And your and your homie was basically doing the same thing you was doing. How did you feel about your man going down for that time?

SPEAKER_07 1:05:28

Um when it first happened, you know, um we didn't uh we we we we always heard about the feds, but we didn't understand the feds until they got found guilty. And when they got found guilty, and the time was given out, and now like because we we always saw people who you never got never really got a lot of time unless you killed somebody, right? So we never really seen you never really or you know, you've got a gun, you probably can't hold one, two years. But I think how many guns was in the house, young? Like thirty four. Five of them. Five guns. Five guns, what, how much coke? Like nine ounces, thirteen and a half. So we didn't we didn't we we didn't we didn't know what's going on but it's this form related to a whole big indictment that we didn't have I didn't have no idea about. It didn't really hit me until you know they got sentenced. And when they got sentenced got all that time, I'm like, damn, 30 plus years for the guys. I'm like, wow. And it hit me, I'm like, damn. I really understood to understand the feds, but it hurt because we just did we were together every single day. I mean, we did I'm sorry, we we young we young together every single day out here, and then it hit me and I felt bad because I'm like, damn, it was nothing that I can do. You know, other than other than make sure that they had money on their books, make sure that they was cool. But it just it just was a death it was devastating because we didn't we didn't understand it. You know what I'm saying? So and then now to see them come home at the door in this time, you know, it's like you know, um, I'm happy to see they try and do the right thing, but at the time, yeah, it was devastating for me, man. I uh it was hard.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:59

Right. Well so when it comes when it comes to Islam, um it was black black, did you uh take Shahada while you was booked or or before Islam came before?

SPEAKER_06 1:07:11

I took Shahada when I was a very, very young man in my early teens, but I didn't start studying Islam about the way of life until I was incarcerated. Okay. You know, I took it back then as a a badge of honor. Oh yeah, sign Lakham. Oh, what I gotta say. This and that and that on men, all right, sign Lakham. I didn't know what it meant. I didn't, I just knew I was a part of the group brothers, and we just say Asalam Wallachum teacher. I didn't know absolutely nothing. So I became a Muslim uh by uh intrigue because this was more what my friends was doing.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:46

I got you. I'm I'm gonna give y'all your props, man. Y'all really got the best podcast going on right now, man. And um I watch y'all every day, and I won't let y'all go. I appreciate y'all. Asalam audience.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:01

Well, they're small to all the cats. Appreciate you, bro. Enjoy your night, man. Time for that mug grip. I see, I see you uh peaceful journey. I'm I'm about to be we're about to be getting it in after this podcast, man. So yeah, man, you know, we we we have now um got to a point where as though um we have formed a brotherhood. Uh uh we have we have sisters as well that are actually a part of the tells Tells from the Jails, and now people are calling in and people are interacting with us and it feels like family. You know what I mean? Tell us from the jails.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:37

We're speaking with Ted from York.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:41

This who's up, Ted, how you doing, bro?

SPEAKER_04 1:08:45

What's good with y'all?

SPEAKER_07 1:08:47

Chilling, man.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:48

Listen, I wanted to say I'll fuck with y'all podcast, like the last brother said.

SPEAKER_07 1:08:52

Appreciate that.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:54

No problem. I was watching y'all, John. Y'all was talking about uh the music. Uh I want to challenge people to listen to some roster music, man. The rosters be talking about that same type of violence with that same type of grit, but they talking about fighting the system type song.

SPEAKER_07 1:09:16

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:16

I just think that's a way better route than what we're talking about over here and Philly and everywhere else.

SPEAKER_07 1:09:22

Yeah, I mean, people are me personally, I'm be honest, I don't listen to music. But I understand people have their own things what they want to what they want to do. And I I don't do it for my personal reasons, but you know, people are entitled to do whatever they whether whatever it is that they want to do. I just I just would encourage people to be positive. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_04 1:09:41

It got a lot, it got a lot of music, got a lot of influence for sure.

SPEAKER_07 1:09:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:45

And I got a book recommendation for black. Yeah. It's called From Niggas the Gods.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:50

From Niggas the Gods? Who's the author of that?

SPEAKER_04 1:09:53

Uh Brother I kill. Brother I kill. AKIO.

SPEAKER_07 1:09:57

AKIO. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:58

Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_07 1:09:59

Alright, appreciate you, man.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:01

Alright, no problem. Y'all take it easy.

SPEAKER_07 1:10:02

See too. Shout out to Cam.b3574. Tell us in the jelly, who are you speaking with?

SPEAKER_03 1:10:09

Salah, how are they?

SPEAKER_07 1:10:10

Why they come as salam, rakkulla, you better catch it.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:14

This is Yasin, calling from North. What's going on, fella?

SPEAKER_07 1:10:17

What's up, Yasim? Shout out to North Philly, man. What's up, bro?

SPEAKER_03 1:10:21

So listen, I was uh checking out the podcast like I normally do, right? And to piggyback off what y'all was saying as far as about the music, I mean, I know y'all know this because we Muslim, but you know, we live in a land of, you know, Jayah, you know what I mean? Ignorance and disbelief, right? And as a result of that, music is one of the biggest industry, you know, biggest money makers in this in this country. So that's what they push on it. And it it don't help that us as black people, you know, that's a way for us to kind of sort of get out the struggle and you know, help our family out and everything. And the message is definitely in the music. It's the wrong message at times. But it's definitely in the music. So we gotta safeguard our kids because they're not old enough to process and understand, you know what I mean? So they just copy in what they see off of ignorance. Especially if the hop ain't been implemented, you know what I'm saying? And we see it every day, like you said, the little girls in the in the in the in the tea food joined twerking and all that. You know, the the little boys out here, they wanna be gone. You know what I mean? So it's it's like it's really like a a uh epidemic, like but at the same time, right, you can't really speak out against it like that because it's like we kind of going against the grain. So, you know, sometimes we be stuck between a rock and a hard place trying to make a you know, trying to make a choice on like, damn, I don't want to sound like a hypocrite because, you know, that's what I come from. And, you know, you might lose somebody that's in the music industry in a rap game, and it's like, well, he ain't doing nothing but trying to make a way out. But at the same time, you know, if they must from, it's like a conflict of interest, because we know what the law says about the rap music and all that, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_07 1:12:25

Mm-hmm. I'm gonna tell you something, man. You know, I'm I'm gonna cut you off, but I'm gonna tell you something, man. Like people a lot of people know I had a but a couple years ago, I had my own record label back in that day. I just I I was into that type stuff heavy. But um it took it took me years to get to get it out of my system. You know, I was one of the ones that that was into the rap heavy and and and doing that stuff too. I was really in it, I had a I had a whole studio that I um invested in, and I had artists that I invested in, and all types of stuff that I was doing because that was something that I saw that was that was that I was doing and I was moving around, meeting people at like like Jay-Z and those type guys and moving around at a young age and seeing and being around these in these circles, and that was something that I wanted to do. Um And I tried it, but you know, it didn't work out. But I tried it because that was you know something that I wanted to do. So I understand why people do it. I just at this point in my life right now, I understand that a lot of times a lot of times I attend music promotes negativity, and I'm not trying to sit up here and say that um people people are horrible for what they do. I I can't judge nobody, but I'm just saying for me, I just see a lot of negativity in music, and I just think that uh we gotta try and you know educate our kids and try to tur deter them from it because you if you allow them, allow them to go towards negativity is and then and then once it they indulge in it and and and they like it and they attach to it, it's gonna be hard to break them off of it, you know.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:51

Right. Last thing too before I before listen, us, we pardon black people, I say us. It's okay to change your mind about something. You know what I'm saying? Especially if it's for the better of you and the generations behind you. You know, we it's like we have a hard time letting go of the past because of how we was how we was brought up in the street code and in this code and that cold, right? But they say ain't no honor amongst these, right? So if you out there in the street, you you almost sort of gotta expect to get backdoored at some point because you weren't no good. So you can't expect good to come from no good, and then you know, us once again as a whole, at some point in time, especially us men, right? Like, like aware ain't nobody under the influence. You brothers talk like y'all got a lot of sex, you know what I mean? Uh so it's like at some point in time, like it's okay to grow up and say, no, that ain't fair. And I and I ain't saying that y'all are not saying that. I'm just saying that that's what gotta be perfect on on these, you know what I mean? Because we can't be 45, 50 years old still trying to be a crash out and be a YN. You know what I'm saying? And and a lot of times that's where y'all get the pushback from because that's why people misconstrue y'all messages, how to make it seem like no, black. I think black get a tighter when he talks about jail because that's where he spent most of his life at, right? He's not glorifying it. He's just like, oh, I know when this happened. The same way we want to speak on some y'all such as such places. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, listen, I did a little jail time, I ain't do no stretches like that. Did a little kid bears up the county, right? My story was addiction. I'm from now, North Philly. I was drinking the serve and the pills and all that, right? That's my story, right? I come home, I get my CDL, I start my truck and cup.

SPEAKER_07 1:15:58

Congrats, man.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:58

I see I see dudes appreciate it. I see dudes on Facebook. I don't go down the end. I don't care what a nigga I say. I got kids, it's all about them, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_09 1:16:09

Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:10

So, you know, like I said, man, y'all keep doing y'all's thing. Salute, man. Appreciate it. Enjoy y'all night.

SPEAKER_07 1:16:18

You too. Shout out to Quan J 1972 for the donation. Appreciate you, man. And um, you know, a lot of times, I'm not like I'm like I want I want I want to be clear. I'm trying to embrace the youngins. And I'm not trying to, you know, tell y'all that y'all horrible for whatever y'all doing, because that's not my place to do that. But my my job is to try to open your eyes to stuff. You know what I mean? So I want to embrace so it I want to embrace you, embrace y'all. I'm not trying to say, because I don't want to push you away. I can come harsh and be like yo, man, you listen to the music? That's that wouldn't be right. You know what I'm saying? It's other things to talk about, man. Tell us from the jails who's speaking with.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:55

What's going on? This is John, man. What's up, John? How you doing, man?

SPEAKER_07 1:16:58

From New York?

SPEAKER_02 1:16:59

Yo, oh, yeah, yeah, New York, man.

SPEAKER_07 1:17:02

What's up, man? Shout out, man. We got your guy, man. Uh, we spoke to your guy was kicking it with his man, your man Maino, man, from Brooklyn.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:09

Yeah, yeah. You know, you know, Brooklyn's universal, you know.

SPEAKER_07 1:17:12

Mm-hmm. What's going on, man?

SPEAKER_02 1:17:14

But um, nah, I want to tell you, I look at y'all shit all the time.

SPEAKER_07 1:17:17

Appreciate that.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:18

I love the report you and um you a black half is OD funny, even though you be annoying and shit out of him. Like, but um, I had a question that I want to ask. I keep thinking of the story that Black you tell us. If the young dude that he said that um they made him go, he got after he snitched on the nigga who raped him. Right. If a dude would have been a man and told niggas straight up what happened, would they let him stay in the car?

SPEAKER_06 1:17:47

No, they wouldn't let him stay, they still would have sent him.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:50

All right, so and then and another question towards that any nigga who God forbids that shit happened to get raped, will they be allowed to be in the car? Even if they are a man afterwards. Well, did he tell though?

SPEAKER_06 1:18:03

Excuse me? I'm saying did he tell after the rape or he didn't tell?

SPEAKER_02 1:18:08

Regardless, if you if it happened to him, he carried it, or you or like he like the young boy couldn't get over.

SPEAKER_06 1:18:14

All right, well, if he if it happened to him and he carried it and he didn't tell on nobody, yeah, he'll still be in the car. Unless he's doing some type of homosexual activities and he'll keep trying to continue on with this conduct, and then the men will be like, ho, get away from us. But other than that, you know, something it's you know, out here in this game, man, shit happens sometimes. Sometimes you catch the sometimes you catch the the fox, sometimes the fox catch your ass. That's just that's just life.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:43

All right, my brother. Y'all be safe, man. I love y'all's show, man. All right, man.

SPEAKER_06 1:18:47

Thank you for the support, man. You be safe out there.

SPEAKER_07 1:18:49

Shout out to Brooklyn. Yeah, man. Shout out to whole New York, man. I mean, we got a lot of people calling in from New York, man. Shout out to y'all, man. Shout out to everywhere that's been tapping in, man. But yeah, everybody, get up out of here, man. You know, I want to thank everybody who's been tuning in to the podcast. Uh, sponsored TNS Media Group, uh, part Ms. WSA. And, you know, anybody who wanted to get their business uh promoted on our show, especially our family that's been rocking with us, man. We're willing to help y'all out, man. So uh let us know, man. Reach out to us, man. Um, anything else you want to say before we get up out of here?

SPEAKER_06 1:19:21

Man, stay free, man. Make it to the weekend with me, man, because I'm gonna try my best to stay free, boy. I man, it's next about nothing I'm gonna do to go back in that prison. Hey, yo, Kev Money Beats did.

SPEAKER_07 1:19:31

Remember, they care about dogs, cats, women, and children. Cool. Not uh not you. That's what Kev Money Beats said. All right, man. That's right. Uh so shout out to everybody that's in the chat, man. Shout out to everybody listening today. Shout out to all the new members, shout out to all the current members, shout out to all the subscribers. We appreciate y'all.