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DARDEY RAW from Philadelphia speaks about murdering his best friend. DARDEY RAW speaks about his experience behind prisons walls, the difficulties of serving hard time and the struggle to stay alive.

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SPEAKER_11

Hey, what's up, everybody? It's Tels from Jels, man. We here at Pyrooms USA, man, and TNS Media Group is the sponsor and the support team, man. What's up, everybody, man? I got um Dotton here with me today, man. I got a real special guest for y'all today, man. I'ma um I'ma sit back. You know, I like to do a whole lot of talking, man. I let you know, I'ma go, I got the I got the uh keep my mouth shut today, man. I got I got something real good for you, man. And again, man, we're up here, man, to bring awareness about, you know, certain aspects of life, man. Dudes that walk through a hard road, man, and as far as that penitentiary, man. And you know, we're not promoting it, we're not glorifying it, we're not making it like it's a badge of honor, but it's definitely a fact that a lot of men, good men, weak men, whatever you call it, men has traveled these roads thus far in life. So, you know, here's out, man. Here we got to talk about for the dudes and all that that you out there doing stuff or whatever. Even the women, you know, maybe we could say something to make you think that extra two to three seconds, man. But uh, what's up, man? What's up, man? Tell everybody who you is and where you from, man.

SPEAKER_08

Man, what's up, man? It's Darty Raw, Darty Raw with three whys on Instagram. You feel me? With three whys. D-R D-A-R-D-E-Y-Y-Y-R-A-W. You feel me? I'm from Frankfurt, 28. I did a little two and a half years in jail. Two four months too long. Too long. Two and a half, too long. You feel me? And you know what be said? I said a little two years, but that's just what we used to, right? Right. Right. Making it seem like doing any amount of time in jail is okay. Like, damn, bro, I only got two years. That should've been cool. That should've been all right. I'll be home soon. Like a motherfucker don't die every day.

SPEAKER_11

Like, it's really a day is not cool, man. Date not cool. You like a little two and a half years. Two and a half years is over. Long ass time, bro.

SPEAKER_08

That's 700 days, bro.

SPEAKER_11

Yeah. 700. How many days is that? I ain't even do the math on it like that.

SPEAKER_08

That's like seven.

SPEAKER_11

That's seven and some change.

SPEAKER_08

Seven and some change, bro.

SPEAKER_11

If you really want to, yeah.

SPEAKER_08

That's a lot of fucking days in jail to be away from your family.

SPEAKER_11

Hey, man. What's up, man? What is it like growing up out there in Frankfurt, man? Like what you was doing, man. You know, that led you up to doing this two, this two years and some change.

SPEAKER_08

You know it's crazy, right, bro? Because I'm from Frankfurt, but like I bounced around. I was born in Frankfurt, you feel me? But we stayed in Frankfurt probably till I was like six. Then we moved down southwest.

SPEAKER_12

Okay.

SPEAKER_08

We were down southwest for like two years.

SPEAKER_12

Okay.

SPEAKER_08

Then we moved down Alony. And that's really where like I kind of like start getting my feet wet and start jumping out the porch. But my mom and my pop wasn't together.

SPEAKER_11

Okay.

SPEAKER_08

I was living with Umi. You feel what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_11

So it was just a single-parent household.

SPEAKER_08

Not so much a single-parent household because she had had a new man, but you know, like at the end of the day, he's not my dad. Exactly. You get what I'm saying? And that's how you're looking at it. You get what I'm saying? It's not like I don't got respect for him. Like, I got a lot of love for my mom ex-husband and shit. He's a good dude. You feel what I'm saying? Right, right. But he not my dad.

SPEAKER_11

Exactly.

SPEAKER_08

You get what I'm saying? So it's like, I do what I want in this genre.

SPEAKER_11

And you know, it's crazy that you just said that, man. That's a whole nother, and I don't want to take your train of thought, but a lot of people growing up with, you know, dudes is coming in and they meeting a woman and she might got a kid or two. And he may be a good dude. Like you said, you got a lot of respect for him. In order for you to have respect for him, that means he shows you that he can respect your mother. Yeah. So, but you still with the mindset, man, it ain't my dad.

SPEAKER_08

Ain't my pop. You feel what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_11

Like, go ahead, man. Go ahead, man.

SPEAKER_08

So it'd be like, with shit like that, my dad was like uh aggressive, like my dad a provider, bro. Like he handled business. But he not like emotionally attached, bro. Like he don't got no, like he don't know how to show his emotions. You get what I'm saying? So it's like I had a man in my life, but like I didn't me and my dad don't really have them conversations. You get what I'm saying? Like we have a real conversation here and there, but like get deep, like down to the nitty-gritty, like the shit that like I don't like that he did to me, or probably the stuff that he don't like that I did to him. He could tell me. I can't tell him. It'd be like different. You feel what I'm saying? So with that, and then me looking just like my dad, you know that shit irritated my mom a little bit. It just had to.

SPEAKER_11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08

Unintentionally.

SPEAKER_11

Anytime she looks at you.

SPEAKER_08

You get what I'm saying? Stop her. You wouldn't have there. Why you stop all out like that? Because you look just like your fucking father. And then you get to you act just like your fucking dad. And then you get what I'm saying? Now I'm getting older. And mommy's beat heart beating's not working no more, bro. Mommy doing worry about that shit. I'm out. I'm gonna go outside, they climb be in the house by 10. 10, 10 o'clock, what? We're gonna do something. Your boyfriend? Not worry about you doing nothing. So now I'm running around. You get what I'm saying? Like, you gonna smack me a son? I'm alright, alright, mom. And I'm gonna go do what I want regardless. My dad is like here, but he can't be here how he wanna be here because y'all not together. You get what I'm saying? And like he's aggressive, like so. It's like my mom don't know how to take the nigga.

SPEAKER_12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08

Sometimes it's like we all good, and then sometimes he's putting his hands on my stepdad and shit like that. And it's like then that nigga he crazy. Like, you know what I'm saying? But he's a good man. It's just that trauma hit everybody. You don't know how he you don't know what the fuck happened to him when he growed up. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? He was a child before too. He was parented before too. And unhealthy love is a real thing. You know what I'm saying? Even though somebody loves you, and it could be genuinely like real love. Don't mean it's healthy love. And all we know is that we all get raised on unhealthy love, and it leads to situations like me doing a two and a half in jail. You know what I'm saying? Because we think like, damn, I'm a man. I'm not allowed to have feelings. I'm not allowed to like cry. I'm not allowed to like express myself. So all that shit turned into anger and rage and rage turned into what? 20 to 40s. It's in the 20s.

SPEAKER_12

Or the graveyard.

SPEAKER_08

Or the graveyard, yeah, you mean six feet. Yeah. Cooked up now. You feel what I'm saying? Cause he wanna be too tough. Like I was watching this shit on Instagram. I forget what the nigga. It was Wallow. He said, man, being a pussy for three seconds might save your life. Like real shit. You want to be a tough guy all the time. But like you being a pussy for that three seconds just might change your life, like save you from some real deep shit. You wanted to be tough, and now you just got yourself killed. Like, because you wanted to be tough. And you could have just lowered your gauges and relaxed. Everything don't deserve a reaction. And everybody don't deserve your energy. Like, bro, I got good energy, bro. I know my shit good, bro.

SPEAKER_11

But I'm guessing at the time, you know, when you was running around at the time, you ain't had this mindset.

SPEAKER_08

Fuck, man. I'm not worried about it.

SPEAKER_11

It took you to go through some shit to get this mindset. At that time back then, when mom told you 10 o'clock, and you was like, yeah, all right.

SPEAKER_08

I'm about to go roll up at L with the guys. We about to go fuck on these bitches.

SPEAKER_11

How old is you at the time?

SPEAKER_08

13. You see what I'm saying? Bro, like you get what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_11

This is 13, man.

SPEAKER_08

This is what this is what I'm on. Like, we about to roll up.

SPEAKER_11

13. 13.

SPEAKER_08

We about to go roll up. About go fuck on. Bro, we was grown at 13, bro. So like now we 18, and niggas is hype about going to the bar. We don't even give a fuck about going to bars and shit like that, bro. We was 15 and 16 doing shit like that, bro. You get what I'm saying? Yeah. Like life hit us fast, and like we was growing up faster because we didn't have no healthy love inside the house. The household wasn't a home, it was just a household filled with people. That's your family.

SPEAKER_10

You hear that, Cause?

SPEAKER_11

Yeah. Yeah, man. And it's just like it's like he's sitting here telling me about my life. And so many others that's watching and following, and and and I love y'all, man. But so many of us walked, and then so many people that won't even come forth and talk about it. Yeah, no. You know, this is a burden.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, no, that's this shit holds it down, bro. Yeah, you know, big bro, you walked in here and you was like, bro, this shit therapy to me. Yeah, listen, right? My mom's gonna tell me, they call I need, I think you need to go to therapy. And I looked at her, I'm like, we tried that before, and it's like, we could do therapy, that'd be cool. But like, who the fuck is this white person, bro? Who is this other person that I don't want to talk to? I'm about to tell her my life, and they say it's confidential. But who the you know they going home pillow talking about you, bro? You don't think this nigga going home telling his wife, yo, I just met this crazy motherfucker today. This nigga said he killed his best friend, bro. Oh my gosh. Now you just telling my shit to your wife, bro. Why the fuck I want to talk to you, bro? And why do we think that's like a coping mechanism or something that's gonna make us feel better in life when we got family members and people that we genuinely collapse onto and build with and express ourselves to that's not gonna judge us? Because I don't give a fuck what this person, this woman, this man, whoever that's doing this, they judging you, bro. They don't know you. You might get a little 10% out of 100% of people that's in that field and really genuinely care about people. And then it's 90 nosy motherfuckers that just want to know other people's business. Like, I'm not on that, so I'd rather come talk to y'all because y'all been through what I've been through. Y'all went through what I went through. Y'all feel me. Y'all feel me. You're gonna tell me some shit that's probably gonna help me later on down the line. You get what I'm saying? Yeah, you've been my age before, I've never been yours. Yeah, I've never been your age.

SPEAKER_12

Big facts, bro.

SPEAKER_08

But it's like me being my age and being as smart as I am, to the outside looking in, a motherfucker that's gonna tell me I'm gonna know it all. Bro, how I'm gonna know it all because I'm repeating to you what you taught me.

SPEAKER_11

Still wow, say that again, man, because I don't think they heard you.

SPEAKER_08

You get what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_11

That was crazy right there, man.

SPEAKER_08

Like, this should be like ironic to me, bro. I be like so mind-boggled, like I be baffled with the shit that be going on in the world. Like, I listen, bro, I pay attention, I learn. Like, my dad told me since a young, like since I was like nine, seven, like nine, eight, he'd been telling me, bro.

SPEAKER_11

Pull the Michael, put a Michael.

SPEAKER_08

He's been telling me like he's been telling me, like, bro, you gotta be smart, bro. Like, you gotta pay attention, bro. Like, you know, like an intelligent person can play a dummy, but a dummy can never play an intelligent person. You can't, bro. Run that back again, please. Like, a smart person, an intelligent person is capable of playing a dummy. But a dummy can never play no intelligent person. There's no beating around with it. You get what I'm saying? So I could sit here and play a lollygag with y'all all fucking day, and y'all be like, damn, he all he wants to do is play. He's not paying it. Whole time I'm watching the whole fucking room. You feel what I'm saying? I'm watching you out my peripheral, I'm watching you. I'm damn near seeing a fucking window. Because I know that people are not genuinely good people, bro. Like it'll be a motherfucker seeing you doing good, bro. And just cause you doing good and they don't feel like they're able to do the shit you're doing, they won't hurt you, bro.

SPEAKER_11

They wanna hurt you. Fuck, just dislike you. They want to afford to hurt you.

SPEAKER_08

Like physically harm, you want to do something to me because I'm doing what's best for me, and I know I'm capable of doing it, so I'm gonna keep striving and doing what I'm supposed to do. But you don't got that work ethic. So instead of you getting up, like, damn, I'm gonna start working, I'm gonna start. No, I'm gonna go hurt this nigga, I'm gonna kill him as soon as I get the chance. I'm gonna shoot him. I'm gonna niggas be conniving, bro. Niggas be scandalous, they be more scandalous than bitches, bro. And I just be telling niggas, like, bro, like, you gotta really watch you hang with. Like, I call my friends, bro. Like, I ain't like niggas be capping, like they'll get up here for, bro. I'm okay, I'm always gonna be okay, but I'm not where I wanna be, bro. You get what I'm saying, bro? I still got a lot of shit to do, but like that don't make me see my friend doing extra good and be like, damn, why the fuck? I don't got that. Damn, he don't deserve that shit, bro. I've been doing no, bro. You clap your hands for your fucking brother, bro. You commend him because he's letting you know, bro. If I could do it, then obviously you could do it. We hang out, don't we? We got the thing 24 hours in these fucking days. Why are you struggling? Because you want struggle, right? So, like, who am I to be mad or jealous or envious about one of my family members or my brothers doing good for themselves? No, fuck no, bro. I'm happy, bro, because you let me know I could do it. That's it, that's all. But that's like people don't got that mindset, bro. They don't got it in them, bro.

SPEAKER_11

Man, everything you just said, man, was just 100,000 percent real, man. It just comes from and and it and like I said, it's therapy for me also, just hearing you talk like that. It's keeping me.

SPEAKER_10

I only want, so I just want him to talk this whole thing.

SPEAKER_11

Just stay focused. But I want to go back, I want to go back, I want to rewind, right? Because I want to get into I want to get into the to the meat of this. And because I heard you mention the things that you may be talking to a therapist about. Was this before you got your two and a half years? What the therapy? Yeah, no, I'm talking about what you was going, what you what they told you to go to talk to the therapist about. Yeah, well, yeah and no. You feel what I'm saying? Well, can we go back to that? How old was this when it happened? And I'm gonna let you tell the story.

SPEAKER_08

Well, like, my mom, this was recent when my mom was telling me I need to go to therapy. Okay, okay. That was recent. Okay. But like, we went to therapy. Like, I was around like probably like 12, 11. We was doing family therapy. Right. You feel what I'm saying? Because, like I told you, our home, well, our house was never a home, bro. It was just like a house with people in it.

SPEAKER_12

Right.

SPEAKER_08

It never felt like home.

SPEAKER_12

Right.

SPEAKER_08

Like, it's hard as shit to go in a house with all your family and feel alone.

SPEAKER_11

Exactly.

SPEAKER_08

That shit feels crazy, bro. I'm gonna go outside.

SPEAKER_11

Siblings, mom, ain't nobody just communicating with each other. It's just like we celllies or something, man.

SPEAKER_08

We celllies or something, bro. And then it'd be like the spurts, right? Where you would get them good days, and they'd be like the best days of your life. And you like, damn, like maybe we getting somewhere, and then like two days later, that shit just all hell again for the next month. Bro, I don't want no parts of this shit, bro. I'm going outside, bro. Y'all finessing me now. I'm a kid, and in my head, like, y'all not loving me right. I know I'm not getting love right. But I don't know how to explain to you to love me right, because I'm a fucking kid, bro. What do you what do you want me to say to you? Like, what do you want me to say to you? So it'd be like, all right, well, I'm gonna go outside and hang with the people that I feel like love me. I'm like, it's sad as shit to say that, bro. A block where people is dying at, a block where we're selling drugs at, a block where people is getting killed, the rest of it, this is where we feel home at. We feel the most safe right here.

SPEAKER_11

This where you feel love at.

SPEAKER_08

This is where we feel the love at, bro. Where our friends dying at, where our friends selling drugs at, where our friends is going to jail at, we all gonna come right back here every fucking day because this is where we feel at home at in a trap. You feel what I'm saying? They call it a trap because we trap, right? You get what I'm saying? Like man, um like I'm gonna tell you like trap mean take risk and prosper, right? Yeah, but what the fuck is a trap? Something to keep you cage, keep you locked, right? So, like, ain't that like them trying to finesse you?

SPEAKER_11

Like, well, yeah, that's it. That's a finesse. If you look at it in that manner, yeah.

SPEAKER_08

That's a finesse, take risk and prosper. Go ahead, go outside and throw your life away. Like, because we can say this is the track now, this is a different type of track. You take this risk and prosper, that's different. Yeah, but like how we talking about it and our day, like my friends, they're not going to no fucking job, bro. They're not going to go do nothing positive, bro. When they say they go into the trap, bro, we're going to sell fucking drugs, bro. That's what we do. You know what I'm saying? This is what we taught was okay. This is what they push in our face all the time, right? You know what I'm saying? Like in one of my songs where I got mixtape by the drop big bro, it's called Heartbreak McDonalds.

SPEAKER_10

I always listen to you, Major You Hot.

SPEAKER_08

I'm happy, bro. You like you fuck with that shit.

SPEAKER_10

Listen, I put you put down the door for me.

SPEAKER_08

Listen, you know what I mean? Now, this is what I'm saying. Shit gonna be called Heartbreak McDamonds, though. Like, and like the title means a lot to me because like I've been through like a lot of heartbreak, bro. Like a lot of life.

SPEAKER_11

I just told my cousin that I said, man, his his reps, I've listened to a couple of them myself, and I feel nothing but pain. He said on the way here in sorrow.

SPEAKER_08

Probably like an hour ago when we were driving here, bro. Like, real shit, bro. Like, I've been through like a lot, bro. Like, I went through the ringer about this shit, bro. I've been shot, I've been I done did everything that like so it be like, bro, I don't got nothing to prove to you niggas, bro.

SPEAKER_11

See, like the things I'm gonna ask you about up here, man, you can leave out what you want to leave out, or you know, talk about what you want to do. We're gonna talk about that shit. But uh, I want you, I want to go back to, you know, when you say something about you, you mean do you know how I'm gonna tell a therapist about me killing my best friend or some shit like that?

SPEAKER_08

Like, how the fuck do I tell him that? Like, like, like I tell him me and my friend was arguing, right? You feel what I'm saying? Because bro, I'm gonna give you a breakdown of this shit, right?

SPEAKER_11

Was this before you did your two and a half years?

SPEAKER_08

This is what I did my two and a half for.

SPEAKER_11

Oh my gosh. So how old was you when you went and did the two and a half? I'm 28. Because I want everybody to get a full visual how young you come from. Like, not just you, but this is a lot of dude's stories.

SPEAKER_08

25, bro, right?

SPEAKER_11

You 25 when this happened.

SPEAKER_08

I'm 25 when I'm going to jail, right? September. Well, you just came home. I just came home four months ago. I've been home for four months, bro. Are you serious, bro? I'm fresh, bro. I'm fresh. I'm fresh, bro. You get what I'm saying? So it's like no, bro. No, this shit all new work, bro. That new page, that's a new page, bro. I came home. I had 110 followers, bro. This like all work pedal to the metal shit. Reck. So it'd be like, though, it was like, I do the little fucking me and my man, right, bro? I'm on a block, bro. My baby mom, she pregnant, four months in. I'm on a block. I'm trapped, bro. I'm like trapping hard now, though. I got my biggest, boy, boy, sit back, sit back. You feel me? I got my son, right? He's coming. Son on his way. I'm like, man, I gotta get some money, man. We gotta make sure my baby like straight when he comes. I don't want my baby one for nothing. Oh, your big your girl pregnant at the time. At the time, yeah, four months. You feel me? So I'm sitting on a block one day, I'm chilling now. My cousin got the block rolling. He done turned this shit up, bro. You feel what I'm saying? But he got like shifts out there on the block. Like, so after 11 o'clock in the morning, his workers, like the niggas he, you know what I mean, and to and shit like that, they coming out. But I'm out there 8 to 11 every morning. I'm dropping my girl off at work at 7 and I'm going straight to the block. I'm chilling there from 8 to 11, and then I'm maneuvering. You feel what I'm saying? My man pulls up on the block. I'm chilling in the car. He come hopping with me. Me sitting there for like five minutes. Now mind you, bro, I probably got like at around this time, I probably got like seven grand in my name. Eight grand. Like some somewhere around that area. You feel me? But like this shit, like just happening though, bro. Like, I probably ran that shit up in the last 10 days, 11 days ago, I was fucked up. Like bad. I hit a machine, put some money in the machine, one of them drones, hit that drunk for like two bucks. Yeah. Yeah. Easy. Go go buy a pound. And now I'm in motion. I'm I'm I'm grinding. I'm like, man, fuck it. I gotta get back. I got I gotta make sure my son got when he gets here, like he don't need nothing. That's what my mind said at. So I'm out there, I'm trapping and shit, bro. That nigga, like, bro, I'm hungry and this shit like slow. Take me to the crib real fast. Mind you, he pulled up. He got a car too. We both on wheels. I'm like, bro, no, I'm not really feeling it. Not feeling it, bro. I'm trapping right now. Mind you, around this time, nigga just showed me probably like 24,000 in his bank account. I ain't got that. You doing well off, bro. You a little better than me right now, bro. Like, let me do what I'm doing. It's not like I'm hating on you or nothing, but nigga, I'm trying to grind it. You taking care of your kid. Let me let me do what I'm doing. He still acts. I'm like, all right, fuck it, bro. I'll take you. He like, all right, bro. I put some gas in your car and all that. I put five dollars in my tank, bro. Well I'll hate, bro. You hear me? Put five dollars in my tank now. I'm gonna give you the rundown of this whole day, bro. How this shit happened, bro. Cause this shit was so crazy, bro. Shit really like a movie. We get in the car, I go get the take. He give me the five dollars. I'm like, I'll put a dub on my tank anyway. I'm like, fuck, I'm gonna just put dub in there, bro. Five dollars. What the fuck is five dollars gonna do for my tank? You know what I'm saying? So I threw the dub file in it. We driving, bro. We going down fucking um Somerdell, I think. I'm doing some shit in the phone, bro. And I side swipe this white bitch. She look at me, I'll look at her. I'm like, I don't got no license, enough. I'm out. I'm out. I take Red Off on the bitch. We flying. Now we flying on the joint of bitch chasing me. I'm like, man, fuck that shit. This nigga in the car, like, bro, chill, bro, chill, relax, bro. Like, I'm not trying to die, bro. I'm not Wallahi, bro. This is not so I bang a left and a car start fucking drifting, bro. So I just start slamming on the brake. Like we stop right before you smack a wall. Like the car stopped, the wall right here. We stop. I'm like, nigga, look at me, I'm like, man, that shit crazy. So now I look back, I don't know where the bitch at, though. I lose it. So now we drive to the crib, we get to the crib, he eats. Bro, this is my man so much, right, bro. Well, he, bro. Like, we walk in the crib, he like he about to eat. I'm like, all right, well, fuck it, bro. We here now too. Now I'm hungry. Like, what you got in here? I'm in the closet, I'm in the I'm in the cabin, I'm in everything. He got some cocoa plus in that jump, bro. I eat a bowl of cocoa pus, bro. We bop, we go back to the block, we chillin' on the block, a trap come. I bust the track. He tells me, he like, already I ain't gonna lie, bro. The next track, mine, mind you, it's not his block, it's my cousin block, right? It's more of my block than it's his block. Like, I brung him out here. You know what I'm saying? So when he said that shit to me, I'm like, my like my antennas go up, like, because like it's not even like he asked for the track, like he was really like telling me, like, this is what he was he was telling me. So I'm telling him, like, bro, like, nigga, I just took you home. Never wanted to leave. We not on it. Like, I'm doing what I'm doing, bro. Like, you already made me miss an hour. I got a quota that I be trying to make every day out here, bro. And you already like made me miss an hour, bro. Like, I'm not sharing no tracks right now, bro. I'm sorry. I'm not the nigga still going at me, bro. Like he fussing at me. So the next trap come, I let him get it. Little down. I'm like, all right, go ahead, bro. After he busts the dot. I'm like, but I want you to know, bro, like we not about to keep doing this. Like, bro, I'm doing something, bro. Like, that shit over after that. So now we in the car and we chilling. He starts talking about the hot the little shit that we was just saying with my man Crack. They talking, but I'm writing a rap. I'm like, I'm not gonna lie, y'all. I ain't really trying to hear that shit. So if y'all gonna talk about that shit, then y'all can go ahead and get out my car. And when y'all like, you know what I'm saying? So they get out the car, the nigga get out of the car, roll an L. He get back in my car, bro. Right? This nigga gonna tell me, bro. Yeah, Darty, I just rolled up. But you not hitting this y'all. But he jumping in my wheel. I said what you think? You about to smoke that joint in my car and I can't hit it? That just sounds crazy, right, bro?

SPEAKER_10

Sound crazy.

SPEAKER_08

Nigga said, bro, I put gas in this joint.

SPEAKER_10

With five dollars. I said, five dollars?

SPEAKER_08

I got some money on me. And I told you, 11 days before this, bro, I was just on cups, bro. I was pop. You feel me? Don't nobody know I'm in motion, like I'm in motion. Only person that knows my BM. I'm not even talking to people. I'm just like, fuck it, I'm gonna be in motion. I'm gonna pop out on these niggas. They're gonna be sorty as shit. Me and my cousin was beefing at the time. My cousin had this thing, like, where we argue. And like, bro, I ain't gonna lie, I'll go get some money, bro. But like, as far as like when I was young, bro, I'm not worried about saving no fucking money, bro. I spend this shit like as fast as I'm getting it, bro. I'm spinning, I'm spending it. So there'd be times where I'll be damned. You feel what I'm saying? And like my cousin throw that shit in my face when we argue. Pussy, you don't got no money, da da da shit like that. You broke, da da da da. But this the same nigga, right? When I was doing what I was doing, when I was taking that stuff, that weed and shit that I was taking and all that, I'm bringing this shit right to him. I'm breaking it down with him. I'm breaking everything down, everything that I get, I break down with the nigga, bro. If I'm up or I'm down or not, but every time I'm down and we get in an argument, the nigga like throwing this shit in my face and shit like that, bro. You feel what I'm saying? So it's like this shit got me going, bro. I'm thriving right now. I'm really good. So back to the story, the nigga like I put gas in your car. I pull out a roll on him. I probably got like 4200 on me. Give him a dub, like get out my car, bro. He get out the car. Get on Instagram. Bro, I remember this shit like so, bro. This was like one of my best friends. It's like my brother, I got the nigga named Chatted after everything happened, bro. You feel me? Cause like when I say I killed my best friend, like I ain't shooting nigga though. You know what I'm saying? It wasn't nothing like that. But I'm gonna get to it. But what I'm saying is like the nigga get out the car, he get on Instagram and he say, niggas be doing a whole lot over a little bit of money. Shit, fuck me up, bro, because I'm in my head, like nigga, you the one doing a lot over the little bit of you the one taking it, you posting about this shit. Who doing a lot over it, bro? I just told you what it was. Like, I'm not on that right now. You getting money, more money than I got. I'm not saying that I'm hating or not, but bro, I need what I'm doing, bro. And you're trying to come step on my toes, but you're telling me you love me. This is the type of shit that fuck me up. Like, you get what I'm saying, bro? You're gonna sit in my face and tell me you love me, but I'm telling you, I got something going on, and you know you more well off than me right now, and I need this more than you, but you still like man, fuck it. I need it, bro. I'm gonna step on your toes. You get what I'm saying, bro? So this is like shit, like this is how everything starts building. This is how the shit starts building. So now I'm like, all right, fuck it, I'm off it. I'm chilling. He spin through the block probably like the day after or the day after that. He got his son in the car. It's like my nephew, bro. You get what I'm saying? It's my brother, bro. It's my man, like so when I say what's up to him, he ignored me. You feel me? But he rolled down a window for me to talk to his son. You get what I'm saying? So I shake his hand. I'm like, damn, what's up, neph? Your daddy on some bullshit right now, but I'ma always love y'all regardless. The nigga turned right around, like on all dog shit, bro. Like off the rip, bro. I like when I be thinking back on it, I be trying to figure out like if it was something deeper that was going on about the shit, bro. Like, because like the nigga turned right around. He said, bro, stop fucking playing with me, bro. In front of the son. In front of the son. So now I'm lost. Like, bro, Wallahi, I'm lost. I look like, huh? He like, yeah, bro, stop fucking playing with me. I'm not one of them niggas, bro. I'm not them niggas that you be like, he was like kind of like name dropping because I was going through it with some of our friends before even him. Like, me and some of our friends was having friction at the time. So like he get the name drop. I'm not such and such, I'm not such and such, nigga. So now I'm like, bro, what the fuck does that mean? Like, cause now I'm like, you know where we from, bro. So now he's talking and like I'm like, bro, what that mean though? Like, really, like what it mean though? He like, nigga, it mean you know what it means. No, I don't. What do it mean? It means keep your fucking gun on you, nigga. That's what he told you. Wallahi. You hear me? Mm-hmm. I look at the nigga like, huh? He said, You heard me, nigga. I said, bro, Wallahi, if you ain't had my nephew in the car, I would smack the shit out you. Like right now. He said, then do something, nigga. I said, no, go drop my nephew off and come back. He never come back, right? He pulled off. But when he pulled off, I'm with my man Nate, right? My man Nate hear the shit. He like, bro, let's go do something to him, bro. He meant that shit. Like from the rip, bro. Like, like I'm talking like he pulled off my man right on, bro. He meant that shit. Let's go do something to him. He meant that shit. He's gonna do something to you. I'm on a type time, no, bro. You you tripping. Mind your business. That's my brother. I'ma call him. You don't you want some extra shit, nigga? Like, fuck what you talking about. I'ma call him. I call him, bro. What type time you on, bro? Like, what you on, bro? You meant that? Bro, I'm not arguing with you, bro. I'm not trying to argue, bro. I'm just trying to figure out where do we go from here because you just threatened me. And I'm trying to figure out, did you mean it? Because my man were here with me and he wanted to do something to you because he felt like you meant it. Did you mean it? Bro, I just told you I'm not arguing with you. I'm you not my bitch. You're not key. This was his exact word, bro. I just told you I'm not arguing with you. You not my bitch. You not kitty. I said, solid, bro. I hang up. I call our man Spizzy. It was Spizzy. Late, like, on some bullshit, bro. Like, and you know I'm not on that with him, bro. Like, can you call the nigga, bro? And like, like, perimediate this joint or something, see what's going on, bro. Call, call me back. Hey, bro, I don't know what's going on, but that nigga told me to tell you to stop talking to me about your business. Yeah. Alright, well, bro, tell a nigga just stay away from me, bro. Like, don't come around me, bro, because he knows who I am. Everybody knows who I am, and now I don't feel comfortable around a nigga. I feel uneasy, bro. So I just rather him stay away from me, bro. He goes on vacation. I don't know if I think the nigga was gone for like a week. I'm not sure, but all I know is he comes back, and it's like a week or two later. I'm out on the block. It's me, my brother, my two cousins, and his baby mom and his daughter. Right? We out there, they about to leave. But we out there, we mobbin'. The nigga pull up. And I seen. He get out the car and like walk past me, but he grilled his shit out of me. Y'all like like really grill me, but don't say nothing. I man, all right, fuck the nigga, man. He ain't got nothing on him. He ain't like fuck it. So I go across the street to bust my dot. When I'm coming back across the street, the nigga talking to my little brother about the situation. Now, hindsight, when I look back, I was immature. You know what I'm saying? That was more so me moving off of my emotions. But like the shit threw me for a loop because nigga, I just caught our man and I was trying. Why are you over here talking to my little brother about the shit? You just told me, well, you just told the nigga spizzy. You don't know why I'm talking to him about art. So why are you talking to my little brother about it? And this is how I come over. Like, damn, bro, like you don't gotta rep with my little brother. Like, and I'm aggressive though, man. I'm mad, bro. Like already. Like, I go like fast. So I'm over there. I'm like, bro, you don't gotta like rat with my little brother about nothing, bro. Like, we could go here, go in the alleyway, we could talk, rumble, do whatever you want, and then shake hands after, bro. Like, but you don't gotta rep with my little brother about it. The nigga turning my cousins and them. I was like, I'm not doing none of that shit. I'm not raping. Look at y'all, man. Bro, that shit like stung, bro. I ain't gonna lie, what Wahi, bro. Like, that shit like played tricks on my emotion, because this like my brother, my brother, like for a long time, though. Like, you feel what I'm saying? This is like somebody like he a little older than me, too. So, like, you know, like when you love people that's older than you, even if you feel like a motherfucker can't beat you, or something like you will lower your gauges for him. Like, all right, bro, you got it. You get what I'm saying, bro? You big bro, you got it, bro. You got it, and I've been doing this shit for this nigga for years. You feel what I'm saying? Like, constantly. It been times like people will tell me, like, bro, that you don't think that shit was funny that. And I just be like, nah, bro, that's my man. I don't be worried about that shit, bro. You feel what I'm saying? Bro, you ain't hear how you said that shit, though. I'm not worried about that shit, bro. That's like, that's big, bro, bro. It is what it is, right? You feel, but we get here now, and it's like on top of you saying, You gonna shoot me, I feel like you playing with me in front of my family. And they know who I am, they don't play with me. And now you playing with me in front of them. You get what I'm saying? So now I'm like, I snap from the real. I'm like, all right, well, bro, we gotta rumble. Nigga, like, all right, well, do something. I take all my shit out of my pocket, bro. I turn around, like, you ever see somebody like that just like know, and I really think, right? When I be thinking back on it, that's part of the reason like the shit played out how it played out. Because he's so used to me, like just giving him pass at the pass at the the nigga was so relaxed, bro. You feel what I'm saying? I turned around, I smacked him like fast as shit, bro. Like turn, smack, boom. He f like he go like this, bro. Wallahi turn and he looked like right back at me. I'm not thinking nothing of it, bro. The nigga just fall, bro. Wallahi, like I smack him, boom, he goes like this and look at me and just fall, bro. Just fall. So now I'm thinking the nigga sleep. I'm like, all right, fuck it. Now he got a reason for me to keep my gun on me. It is what it is. I go hop, I walk around the corner, I go hopping my will, I'm peeling off when I spin around the corner, shady, my little brother. Like, bro, get the fuck out the car, bro. He not getting up. I'm like, everything that just happened, right? Go out the window so fast because now I'm like, damn, my brother on the floor and he's not getting up. Like I did panicking. Like from the rip, now I'm scared. Yo, nigga, get up, stop playing, stop playing. Yo, give me some water. I threw some water, nigga. Not getting up, bro. I'm like, yo, somebody give me a phone. They give me the phone. I'm like, yo, my brother was outside drinking. He drunk, he fell, he hit his head, he's not moving, he's not getting up. I need an ambulance. So the ambulance coming, and I'm about to stay. I'm about to stay on the scene. But my cousin said, 'I'm like, bro, you're gonna stay on the scene, bro. They're gonna lock you up when they get here, bro. You better get the fuck out of here. My uh my little brother snapping the whole time, though. Like the whole time, bro. You a fucking dickhead, bro. I told you, chill, bro. You always wanna put your fucking hands on somebody, bro. I told you I was gonna learn, bro. I told you. I'm looking at the nigga like I'm out. I go hop in the wood, I spill off. I go to the apartment, I go to my apartment, I'm laying down in the bed. That night? That night, I'm laying down in the bed that night, I'm calling my mom, I tell my mom what happened. My mom on the phone, she's crying, I'm crying and shit, bro. I'm like, mama, I ain't meaning for that shit like to happen like that.

SPEAKER_10

You knew he died at this time?

SPEAKER_08

No, but like he not waking up. He's in the hospital and he's still not getting up. You get what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_11

Coma. Coma.

SPEAKER_08

You feel what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_11

Your mom knows about it too?

SPEAKER_08

I'm telling my mom at the time. Oh, you telling him, but she knows that something happened with you earlier? Yeah. Okay. I tell her. So, boom, when that shit pop off, bro. Everybody like start acting different, bro. Well, why he look right? My man, me and my man was living in a duplex at the time. It was me and my baby mom, and it was him and his girl. His girl is my baby mom, like best friend. You feel me? So, like, it was like all like it was a good journal. A little family affair. Yeah, a little family affair. He had the bottom journal, I'm at the top drone. Like, you feel what I'm saying? Shidar. This nigga come knock on my door the next morning, right? He like, damn, darling. He like, what happened with Late? I'm like, come here, bro, I'm gonna tell you. So I breaking, I break down the story to this nigga, bro. We smoke an L together and all that, bro.

SPEAKER_11

At the time he's still in the coma.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, the late still in the coma, but I'm talking to my man about the situation. All right, just the next day. Nigga, y'all like, damn, bro, that's fucked up. I'm like, yeah, no, bro. Like, I I know I can't go to the hospital, bro, because I know his family gonna feel some type of way. But can you tell me what's going on, bro? Just keep me updated. He like, yeah, bro, I got you, I got you, bro. This nigga on Instagram seven hours later talking about let's go to the ops block. And he got the camera this way, and this shit is going to my block, bro. Are you serious? Bro, this shit is going to my block, bro. I'm looking like, what the fuck? Yeah. He was just talking to me, bro. We just had the conversation, bro. Nigga in the house with me, we smoking Like, no, bro. That's fucked up. I know you ain't mean it. Bro, seven hours later, the nigga on Instagram. It was in the spider. I'll never forget it. It was him and my one of my other homies. They and the spider. This nigga, like, let's go through the Oz block. And they speed into my block. I'm like, but mind you, I'm telling the nigga live right downstairs, y'all. You get what I'm saying? Yeah, y'all say live in the same duplex. We live in the same duplex. So now I'm hot, bro. I'm like steaming. My bitch, like, yo, what's wrong with you? What's wrong with you? I'm like, it don't matter. It don't matter, it don't matter. I wake up in the morning, right? I wake up early, like six o'clock. I'm I'm getting my girl up early. She's like, baby, I don't gotta be to where I'm get up. Come on, I'm about to take it to work. Come on, come on, come on, come on. Because she got like the key to her job. So even though she don't start, she could have got in the place. You feel what I'm saying? So she good. I'm like, come on. I take it to work. I spend right back to the crib. So now I'm banging on this nigga window. I'm banging on his door, like I'm walking, I'm banging on the window. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Yo, get up. I come around to the front door, I'm banging on the door. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Nigga open the door, like, bro, what's up, bro? I open the door. I'm like, bro, I'm here. I the nigga like fake jump at me. I nailing from the rip. Like, soon as he does the fake jump, I nail it. You feel what I'm saying, bro? Like, because I'm already mad though, bro. Like, you feel what I'm saying? And it's already there now. It's like now you playing with me. Cause I just told you I didn't mean to do this shit, bro. And I need you to keep me updated, and you telling me you got me, bro. So now you playing in my face. Now you're calling me an I. I feel you. I feel you. I punched the nigga straight in his face, bro. As soon as he goes like this, I know it. Boom!

SPEAKER_11

And now his girl and her son in the house. Is you on like the like is you like playing like on like the run tip right now, or like playing it on a low tip, like you keeping because I know you probably think it damn man, people know I probably smacked him. He went to sleep. Like, is you like ducking a little bit? Not the niggas, but police.

SPEAKER_08

No, not even, bro. You know why? Because it's like when I did this shit, bro. That next day, after I beat the nigga job, like after I finished telling, I go straight to catch my lawyer out.

SPEAKER_11

Like you oh, you went and go seeing your lawyer, right? Like you told him what happened.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, did he die yet at the time? No, okay, he in a hospital, so it ain't no charges yet.

SPEAKER_11

Oh, so it's no charges at all.

SPEAKER_08

It's nothing to be charged enough and the nigga's still alive.

SPEAKER_11

Exactly.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, we don't know if he wanna press charges enough for me hitting him.

SPEAKER_11

Because he's in a coma.

SPEAKER_08

He's in a coma, so ain't nothing going on.

SPEAKER_11

Right.

SPEAKER_08

We just it's a waiting game. Exactly. Now, mind you though, the EMTs when they came, they put that shit, that tube, whatever it is, they put the shit in his esophagus instead of his windpipe. So he was never getting no oxygen to his brain the whole time he goes into the hospital. So the nigga swell way up. He swelled up, yeah. He's swollen. Like, you get what I'm saying? Like, so all that shit happened. Well, I knock on the nigga door, I punch the nigga in his face. Now I'm beating him all up in the house. You feel what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_11

His This the next day.

SPEAKER_08

This the next day. His stepson in there, his bitch in there. Like I'm beating this nigga ass in there, John. Like all over the drone. All in there. I get the nigga in his headlock, right? I had him in a headlock, like a good joint. And I'm like bending back and I'm leaning the nigga like he's bitching. Like, and I'm telling, like, pussy, like, I could kill you, bro. Like, I'm your op. Is you sure you want me to be your op? DJ in the background, Darty, stop.

unknown

Please, go, go.

SPEAKER_08

They ain't let him stop. So I'm like, I catch myself. I'm like, damn, I'm doing a lot. I am. Like, so we calm down now and I'm walking outside. When I'm walking outside, he's following me. I turn back around, punch the nigga again. We about to start fighting right here on the street now, but the cops sit right there on 17th from Winga Hockin all day. Y'all know they sit right there. Nigga hopped right out the wheel. Like, damn, y'all good. I'm like, no, yeah, we good. It's just my brother. We rumbling da da da da da. Ain't about nothing. My other man that's we going through it kind of at the time, too. This nigga pull up. They don't like something like, yeah, no, come on, like, follow us down, spring, follow us down, freak. I'm on some shit like bro. Like, I'm not on what you niggas on. Like, I beat both of you niggas the fuck up and like I'm trying to rumble. So, like, we could just go back in the crib and rumble. Y'all trying to take it everywhere else, but like I'm not really trying to take it there with y'all. You get what I'm saying? Like, and like niggas say, like, I was coping the plea. I say I was coping the plea, honestly.

SPEAKER_15

You feel me?

SPEAKER_08

I'm trying to bow out gracefully because honestly, I know these niggas not ready to take it where I'm trying to take it to after it get there. Especially over some shit that I didn't mean to do. Like over an accident. Now people gotta die, people's moms got cry, kids gotta grow up without parents because of an accident. Like I need y'all motherfuckers more than I need to go through it with y'all. And this is that road y'all gonna choose. Like, bro, like if I had my old Instagrams, bro, I'd show y'all niggas, bro, like messages, like messages of me telling them niggas, bro. That's not this shit not dead, bro. That shit not thorough. Like, but at the end of the day, like the shit once so left and so haywired the way it did, because it's always gonna be me over you. Like, don't get it fucked up because I'm telling you, like, I care about you and I don't want to do it to you, like that I won't do it to you. Because it's always me. Before you, I got a kid just like you got a kid. Got a girl, I got a mom, I got family just like you got family, bro. And before you take me away from mine, I will take you away from yours, bro.

SPEAKER_10

What it's in the coma for?

SPEAKER_08

He was in a coma for five days. He died on the fifth day. Shit happened like Saturday, he died Friday.

SPEAKER_11

Are you serious? What are they saying he died from?

SPEAKER_08

No, shit happened Sunday, he died Friday. Now, he they said like his vertebrae was shattered, or something like that. And I ain't never really get too much in on like everything else. Like, I don't really know too much about everything, but I just know like he succumbed to like I guess the pain on like that that Friday. But like it was crazy because the day before that, I was keeping up with it, and they said like his heartbeat had rised and he had squeezed somebody's hand the day before.

SPEAKER_11

Yeah, like he was ready to come through.

SPEAKER_08

You feel what I'm saying? And then the nigga died the next day, bro.

SPEAKER_11

So how they carry that? Did they did they try to do what they came and arrested you for?

SPEAKER_08

No, actually, oh and like that Friday when he died, I chilled for the weekend and I went and turned myself downtown on like 8th Street.

SPEAKER_11

Oh, so you knew so you knew they was looking for you?

SPEAKER_08

No, they wasn't even looking for me. Wasn't no warrant out for me, nothing.

SPEAKER_11

Are you serious? So when you just went down and was like, yo, I'm here because of an incident that happened, they like. No, they said they knew about the incident, but like it was like, yeah, like it's like And they still took it upon themselves a lot, because you that that means you ain't wanted.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, but as far as I knew I wasn't wanted because like they didn't have no warrant out for me. But when I went and turned myself in, like, I guess they didn't have a warrant for me because my lawyer had talked to them, though. My mom did say that I forgot about that. My mom said my lawyer had talked to them, like they didn't really like owned because they knew I was turning myself in, I guess.

SPEAKER_11

So what they so they they charge you that day you went there to volunteer man slaughters?

SPEAKER_08

At first, right? That's what my charge they dropped it down to it, but like at first I had to just uh hometize. Okay, but when I went in the courtroom, it was like they was trying to differentiate on whatever what it was. Exactly. You feel what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_11

Which one they gonna give you?

SPEAKER_08

Which one they gonna give me, bro? They played the video, bro, like 10 times.

SPEAKER_11

Oh, they had a video of you doing it, bro?

SPEAKER_08

Bro, like it and his mom, like everybody in the courtroom, right? You felt how you feel, bro. I felt horrible, bro. Like, you gotta remember, bro, this is my friend, bro. That's my brother, bro. Like, and even though, like, I I tell motherfuckers to this day, like, I don't give a fuck how nobody feels about it, bro. I stand on what I stand on. He said what he said to me, bro, right? And like it's certain shit you just don't say to people, bro. And like, I'm standing on what I'm standing on when I said like I had a reason to do what I did. I'm standing on that I should have been man enough to walk away, right? You get what I'm saying? I didn't have to do what I did, right? That was some immature childish shit. Take accountability. I still had a reason to do what I did, and and and it's a lot of niggas in this world that would have done a lot worse. Yeah, you get I smacked him one time, bro. You get what I'm saying? Nowadays, bro, you tell a 14-year-old young boy I'ma smoke you or anything, he's gonna cook you. Yeah, you're gonna fry you the fuck up, and he probably gotta switch you on the back of that junk and shoot you 12 times in two seconds.

SPEAKER_11

In one second, cook you the fuck up.

SPEAKER_08

You get what I'm saying? And this is what I'm saying, bro. Like a nigga make it seem what I did is just so horrible, bro. Like, no, it was immature and it was nutty, it was childish.

SPEAKER_12

Okay.

SPEAKER_08

But at the end of the day, bro, men fight. Like my dad taught me at a young age, men are combat and women are conversation, bro. I don't know how to have an argument. I don't like to argue, bro. I start to stutter and get in hot, and now I just want to hit you. Because this is how I express myself when I'm in. I will beat you the fuck up, bro. And this is what I'm on. This is where my mind goes with everybody. It don't matter if I could win a fight or not. Because you a man, like I'm a man. So, nigga, we both bleed the thing. We both gonna die. Only thing I fear is a wall. So once I'm near, I'm near, bro. And it don't matter who you is, and it was just like, it just happened to be my friend that day. Your brother, my brother, bro. Like, and it was a bad jump, bro. You get what I'm saying? And now to this day, bro, I deal with a lot of shit different, bro. Like, I lowered my gauges, bro. I don't be overzealous to rumble a nigga. I don't be super amped up to like show how tough. Like, I never was a bully or like a super tough guy, but like I always was looking for a moment. For it to happen. Like for it to happen, yeah. Like, go ahead and act like like like you tough, nigga. Go ahead and act like you tough while I'm real. I want to show you that I'm tough too. Don't give a fuck if you tough or not. You might be the toughest nigga in the world, but you just gonna meet the next toughest nigga in the world right here with you. And this is where my mom was always at. You feel what I'm saying? Like, I'm not coming in this the audio cool feet.

SPEAKER_11

Not to cut you off. Speak the audio cool. Speak. The audio cool. The audio cool. Oh yeah. Um, but yeah, what's up, man? What happened when you so they locked you up? They locked you up right after that?

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, bro. Look, right, so I go turn myself in, and I ain't gonna lie, right, y'all. I knew I'm about to go to jail, and I ain't so when I wake up that morning, my whole thing is like I know this process about to be long as shit. That process and shit is long, bro. That shit like 11 hours, bro. Especially like when you first. So I'm like, damn, like, I don't really want to deal with all that. Bro, I go grab two Zannies, double G's real fair. I take them joints, bro, and I'm not gonna lie, I really like I all I really remember is turning myself in.

SPEAKER_11

And waking up.

SPEAKER_08

And it just waking up the once. I'm a CFCF now.

SPEAKER_11

Speeding it up fast forward, huh?

SPEAKER_08

Fast forward, you feel me? I'm cook and I'm still a little hot, so now I get to the F and I go to sleep there. I'm back. And R D. And RD. No, I ain't even on it. You know, I don't do the floor too. I love the floor. I like the floor too, but I'd be like, I be nervous, so like I don't really like I don't trust niggas. So I I go all the way to the corner on the on a bench and I'm gonna go ahead and it's a bunch of niggas down there. I'm gray hair like this, and I'm not I could I I'm sleeping because I'm off the Zans, but like I be like nervous in jail, bro, because you never know what a nigga on. Not like I'm scared, but yeah, but you gotta be cautious.

SPEAKER_11

You gotta be on your peas and never know what this next nigga is going through.

SPEAKER_08

Like, like, and you don't know, like like bro, I'd have been in jail with niggas that's like crazy, like that don't need to be in jail. They probably really need to be 302 in the hospital. In the hospital, and like this nigga skits out and just punch a nigga in his face that ain't do nothing to him. You just be sitting there and cuz tipping on him, man. You like damn, what the fuck? Yeah, no, bro. So that shit used to hit like I so I when I go to jail, bro. I just like get straight on it. Like, I'm on street, like this shit gonna go left.

SPEAKER_11

Like, as soon as you play with me, ain't nothing good coming out of going to jail.

SPEAKER_08

Ain't nothing like except yeah, I'm not gonna say that, big bro. You know that's crazy. I'm not gonna say that. I'm gonna say jail is not a good place, but you could get a lot of good shit out of jail because you run into some good men and as far as like lessons and and and and different mindsets and understanding that certain shit is uncalled for.

SPEAKER_11

Do you think jail is needed for certain individuals?

SPEAKER_08

Yes, fuck yeah. I think jail was needed for me. I think like if I didn't look at it too it taught you something that the streets couldn't teach you, yes, yes, that don't nobody love me more than my family, and they need me. They need me. Who the fuck am I? I'm out here running around with my friends, right? Doing all this nutshit. We shooting at people, we selling drugs, we doing all this, right? I go to jail, bro. I had my man Jeezy, it was leak, it was Keen. Keen ain't gonna do anything. I wasn't really calling. That's my brother right there, right? I don't I wasn't really calling a nigga, but like anytime I call him, like he had, but like it'd be like people that I was hanging with, like that was real that didn't do shit for me, bro. These the niggas that turned their back on me and was shooting in this case, yeah.

SPEAKER_11

I'm moving. So they gave you a bell for it for a homicide?

SPEAKER_08

Listen, right? We was at the courthouse, they playing a fucking video, bro. They playing a video, they keep playing it though. They play it like 11 times because the DA is trying to tell them that I punched him, and this is gonna change the charge.

SPEAKER_11

Okay, if you punch it.

SPEAKER_08

If I punched him, this is gonna change the charge.

SPEAKER_11

What did it change it to?

SPEAKER_08

It'd uh I think it would have still been an involuntary manslaughter, but it would have been a felony. Okay, I got a misdemeanor.

SPEAKER_11

Oh, you got a misdemeanor manslaughter, involuntary, yeah. Misdemeanor, involuntary manslaughter, yeah. So the if if you had a closed fist, that'd have changed the whole dynamic.

SPEAKER_08

I don't think uh maybe, yeah, maybe, right? Because I think the F1 holds different time than the misdemeanor, right?

SPEAKER_11

Mm-hmm. The F1 is the felony, yeah.

SPEAKER_08

When they playing the fucking video back, bro, like I'm not gonna lie, I swung so fucking fast that they like keep trying to pause it. They trying to pause it, like they catch and see what my hand looks like. If it's closed or it's open. But like I swung so fast, this shit happened so fast that every time they try and catch it, they just catching and falling. Like, you get what I'm saying? Yeah, so now his fucking mom and sister just keep screaming and you know them. And I know them, and they know how bad I feel, but they don't know how bad I feel because they think I meant the shit.

SPEAKER_11

Damn, and they know how bad I feel, but they don't know how damn boy, this shit right here is crazy, bro.

SPEAKER_08

It's crazy, right, bro? And now we go on a court dates, right? Cause I come home, I bell out. They give me a misdemeanor. My bell was 250,000. The DA tried to push my shit up like 400. Yeah. Some weird ass shit. You bitch on some weird ass shit. But I had a black judge. I had a black judge. Oh, it was thoroughly shit, bro. He looked at this white lady, he said, What? Then, like she said the other day, we just had a white man in his courtroom and he shot somebody in the head. And because he called the cops and he had a gun license and all this and all, y'all gave him a$35,000 bell. But you trying to give him a$400,000 bell for smacking his friend?

SPEAKER_11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08

Whatever, miss. His bell's$50,000.$50,000? Knock that shit down,$200,000. Right off the rip. I'm looking at it like, damn, bitch, like, you probably just helped me out. Like, he probably wasn't gonna do that, but like you just try to be all extra and overzealous and you earned these things.

SPEAKER_10

So you pay$50,000 on$5,000?

SPEAKER_08

$5,000, bro. So now mind you though, I got a detainer. I'm on pro I'm on pro probation. You can't go to Delivery County. Bro, I'm on a detainer, bro. So now I'm hot. I'm like, I need my detainer here and my detainer here. That's all I'm worried about. My detainer here wasn't until October 18th, I think. Right? I just got that, we did that shit in August. So now I got two bucks a week. I go to my detainer here, bro. My I had Charles Perudo, this was my lawyer. Right? I paid the nigga, I think he paid him like five to seven grand for like preliminary. I'm not sure. It was like somewhere in that range. But the nigga like he gonna get my detainer lifted too. So I tell him I judge and shit. He like, all right, bet I'll be out there. Bro, I go to court on the 18th. I walk into the fucking courtroom when he called me up. It's this fat ass white man, like, like what what they call him, paralegals, I think. That's what they is, right? The nigga that comes standing in for your lawyer. This nigga coming in, fat ass stomach hanging all over his shit. Don't know my fucking name, nothing, bro. He don't know my name, bro. I'm talking to the we get up there, I forget what the judge say, but my PO there say some weird ass shit. And they deny my detainer getting lifted. Now I'm hot, bro. My I look back, my baby mom sitting there all fucking pregnant. I'm mad as shit. I just walk out the courtroom, bro. Hot. So now I call home later. Like when I walk in, I'm on 10 angles when we get back to the jail already. Niggas like, damn dirty, what happened? I'm like, bro, stop talking to me. I'm not trying to rap with you niggas, leave me alone. You feel what I'm saying? I call my bitch. We talking. So fast forward, like three days go by. I call home one day. I'm hot. Now I'm I've been on 10 since. I call home. I'm like, yo, what's up? My baby mind, like, who you been praying to? This is right, and wallahi, bro. This is what made me start praying again and like praying more and like doing more again because I was like, bro, my exact words, I said, bro, I ain't been praying to nobody because God don't care about me, bro. God don't give a fuck about me, bro. And I'm like, this is what I'm on, bro. Right. My baby mind, well, I alright, well, I guess it was my prayers that was working then, cause your detainer lifted. I looked up, I said, Oh yo, I'm gonna call you back. Niggas like daddy, why you cheesing and shit? I said, cuz I'm about to show you niggas how to bell out. Hold on, let me show you something. I called my dad, like, ooh, get me out of jail. I said, My detainer lifted, get me out of jail. You pay my bell, right? But I can't leave yet because it was something. I'm lying, my court date was November 18th. Because Thanksgiving was coming up and I couldn't leave because some shit with the Thanksgiving. I had to wait like two days, bro. My bell was paid for like two days and I couldn't leave. But when I slide, one of the niggas that we going through it with now is getting belt out too at the same time. His mom and his brother is out there standing right out there. I go walk right up to the nigga. Like as soon as I get out there. I don't smoke cigarettes, bro. I never really did nothing. But I was so happy to be outside. Nigga offered me a cigarette I just say, yeah, bro. Let me get I'ma smoke that shit. I'm out. So I'm at real shit. I'm just posting. I see the nigga, I put the cigarette right down. I go walk up to him, I smack the nigga chat. Boom, bro. Like, what we on, bro? Like, you on that shit, your brother, and I'm like, no, bro, I don't got nothing to do with da-da-da-bro. That shit just corny, what happened to how'd I get all that, bro? But like like y'all niggas out here doing a lot now. This shit fast forward, it caused a whole lot of friction. A whole lot of like bangouts and shit like that. All this weird ass shit that we not even supposed to be indulging in. Cause these my brothers, bro. Like, you get what I'm saying, bro? Like, but like over time, like right before I went to jail, like two of like my man Ja and my my man Kai, we like squash that shit. Like we talked about it. Even at the like all the extra shit, the extra curriculars. And that's what made me feel like it was grown too, because it's like you know, like who we are in the day and age we live in. Bro, somebody shoot at you, bro. Ain't no coming back from that, bro. You know what I'm saying? That's what a nigga tell you, but like we can't like fix that. It ain't no rectifying it. But I can tell you like firsthand that like if a motherfucker didn't die or like you still alive to get another chance, that that shit rectifiable and you should, because like that shit just be like putting like negative energy on your body, bro. That should attempt your soul, bro. Like holding grudges and doing all that extra shit, bro. I rap about a nigga from the streets because I'm a nigga from the streets. I'm not trying to be a nigga in the streets no more.

SPEAKER_11

Yeah. So how long did you sit over the county for?

SPEAKER_08

I said in the county for four months.

SPEAKER_11

Oh, four months before you bailed out. So now you on the street the rest of the time too. Is you going to trial for it or you took a deal for it?

SPEAKER_08

I'm I'm playing with the system, is what I'm doing because I know I'm gonna take a deal already.

SPEAKER_11

You know it.

SPEAKER_08

I know this already. I know I'm about to take an open plea or take anything anywhere. They can't even hear.

SPEAKER_11

No, they're hearing They should be hearing and then they're hearing in their feet. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, no, but it's like Huh. Yeah. But yeah, like, so it's like when that shit happened, bro, I like I bell out and I'm kinda like playing with the court system because like I'm I'm like pushing dates back. I need to do my lawyer, this, that, that. Cause I'm like thinking, like, damn, I'm trying to get as much time on the street as I can, cause maybe I could get like, but at the same time, bro, I was like bullshitting, right? I had like a lot of good ideas and plans, but like the fact that I killed my brother was like weighing on me, bro. You feel me? So I got good all these good ideas and plans, but instead of following through with them drones and shit, like, bro, I'm popping perks, I'm smoking weed and I'm drinking, I'm getting hot, drunk, and all I'm trying to fight off these emotions that I don't want to deal with. Yeah, you get what I'm saying? Yeah, and it's like it's coming out in my music. If you listening to me when I'm rapping, I'm telling you, but it's like that shit was fucking me up, bro. Like for a long time, like for a long time that shit was fucking me up because this is like somebody I was with every day, bro. Like, I don't like the niggas that be being Joe acting like they want to do something to me about the nigga, they wasn't his friends like I was his friend. Exactly. This my fucking brother, y'all niggas just dickying, bro. And it be like, that shit, like controlling the energy that I be having for these niggas that be dickying be like a hard thing, but like that's growing pains. You feel what I'm saying? Because niggas know like who you are. Like, period. Like, if you solid, then a nigga know. Like, you gonna tell from a handshake if a nigga solid, bro. So like you could tell from my handshake that you shouldn't play with me. But these niggas still playing with me. You get what I'm saying? But like I just gotta keep my gauge look like 30, you got something, bro. You got girl, you got mine, like you got people that like depend on you. Like, you saying you got plans, you wanna be rich, you got you won't let that nigga trick you out your spot? You wanna let him get you? And it'd be like, it'd be tempting, bro. Like, Shay Time be right there, like in your ear, like, bro, it's just that easy, bro. You can get away with it. Yes, it is. You could get away with it, bro. Five pounds of pressure, bro. A nigga dead.

SPEAKER_10

Why you think the judge gave two hands to five?

SPEAKER_08

You know what's crazy, bro? The bitch told me she gave me two and a half to five because I didn't apologize first when I talked to the family.

SPEAKER_10

Well, she's gonna let you slide you apologize.

SPEAKER_08

No, listen. My lawyer telling me I was getting an 11.5 to 23. Just take the open play.

SPEAKER_10

Okay.

SPEAKER_08

Style it. You took it. Take the open play, right? Oh, so they lied. They don't be they don't gotta honor that. No, they don't gotta honor that. I know that. Right? But the max I could get is two and a half to five. She gave you the max. No, she didn't even give me the max. Hold on. Right? I'm in the courtroom. She like, you got anything you want to say to the family? I turn around and I talk to him, like, yo, like, I just want y'all to know, like, I love y'all, and like, I never meant for this shit to happen the way it happened. Like, that was never in my intentions. Like, that's my brother. Like, what I was taught is boys fight. And like, all me and my friends fought. Like, this was never like my intentions. I want y'all to know, like, I never meant to hurt him, and I never meant to hurt y'all. Like, the judge said, You don't want to apologize? I said, I mean, like, I was feeling like that was the apologies. We apologizing right now. I feel like I'm a pop-like, you get what I'm saying? But I'm just like, fuck, I'm just I'm like, yeah, and I just wanted y'all to know, like, like I genuinely, like sincerely apologize. Like, I apologize. Like, this wasn't supposed to be that, bro. Like, this shit hurt me as much as y'all. Like, y'all, my family. We lost a family member, and I can't even grieve with my family because the family member we lost, I took, you know how hard that shit is? And I gotta deal with that shit every day. This is what I'm explaining to them.

SPEAKER_11

This is what you're saying to them.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, you get what I'm saying? I gotta deal with this shit every day by myself. At least y'all got each other to like console y'all. I don't got nobody to console me about this shit. That's gonna understand, like y'all understand. My mom could be here. My they don't know late, like uh like we did. You get what I'm saying? This is our family, bro. And like now I gotta be away from my family because I made an emotional decision. Shit cost me for the rest of my life. I'm never gonna get my brother back, bro. Shit cost me, like, and that shit was a heavy drone, bro. Like a heavy drone.

SPEAKER_11

So what'd she say? What did the judge say? She said when she started sentence you. She said she just straight bypass the you thinking you ready to get 11 and a half of 23.

SPEAKER_08

Mm-hmm. At least that, like, I'm thinking my lawyer telling me it's possible I could get probation and it just make me do classes. Right? So I'm thinking, like, damn, all right, bet. And then the 11 and a half, like, I'm thinking 11 and a half, 23 would be cool, right? All right, bet. So, like, I get done saying my little apology and shit. I'm standing up, the judge said how Zach words are some shit like I can't say Zach word for word for bit, but like her words are something along the lines of like it's such a tragedy on what happened, and it's so sad how our young men think that like they not allowed to use their words and all that. And what I'm telling you is like I know you're hurting and all that, and so I really want you to be in therapy and stuff like that. We just gonna go ahead and give you an eighteen to eighteen to forty five.

SPEAKER_10

Eighteen thirty six.

SPEAKER_08

That's two and a half to five, thirty-six months. Five years.

SPEAKER_10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, then that's what it was, eighteen to thirty six. No, thirty six. That's a one year three. Uh huh. That's a one half to three. That's a one and a half to me. No, no, I had a one and a half to five. So it was like eighteen to like forty months something like that. Sixty months. Sixteen, yeah, it was eighteen to sixties, yeah. So when the bitch say that shit, I'm looking at it like that's an illegal sentence. Nah, you know, I was in the courtroom. Is when the back number is not at least half of the front number. So like they can't give you a 10 or 12. You know what I'm saying? Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_11

You now understand. That's the first time I ever heard it broke down like that.

SPEAKER_08

You get what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_11

So like Well, I paid attention to it anyway.

SPEAKER_08

And that's what I'm saying. Like, because I was in jail and I was screaming at shit. I swore, and that's illegal sense, legal sense, illegal sense. I get up there, I'm going to that law library and shit like that, bro. I'm trying to find out where the fuck this is illegal. Shit not illegal, bro. Like they could give you anything on your back end, bro. Like they could give you a year to 10 years.

SPEAKER_12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08

You get one to 20. They can't give you no two to two to three.

SPEAKER_12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08

You get what I'm saying? They can't give you a four to five. You gotta be 48. Anything had.

SPEAKER_10

You got a hit or something?

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, I got I got a hit. Listen, right? So you go upstate. Go upstate. I'm up Mercer. I'm Mercer. I'm a Mercer for for like seven months. But mind you, I was home, right? When I come home and I bell out, my dad gave me some cheese when I first bell out. So I'm like, all right, for a couple months. But shit slow. Me and my BM get in an argument one day, right? This girl gonna go ahead and say, boy, she says some shit, da da da da. You a fucking bum. I looked at this bitch, I said, what? I got something for you. Now I'm outside. I I leave. Like soon as she say that shit, shit. Call my man here. No, bro. Like, yeah, like let's get something cracking. Like, I need one of them drones. He like, it's crazy, bro. I got one right now. We go bust this drone down, bro. I'm drunk. I'm in my feelings. Told y'all, bro. I was like drowning my emotions with alcohol, weed, and perks, bro. Like, this was my thing. Like every day though. Like after I kill my brother, every day for a long time, this was my thing. Like, that's what I'm on. So now when the shit go down, I'm out. I'm like, all right, bet. But I'm drunk. We going on a lick, bro. I go into the back window. I I got my gat on it. I take it and I hit the window. My whole fucking hand goes through the window. I cut myself. I'm bleeding all over the fucking scene, bro. Like all over the scene, bro. I'm trying to wipe the shit up as I go. I'm missing shit. They come right before they sentence me. The D the D the D T from down um Sharon Hill and all that come down there and give me a warrant. Tell me they got a warrant for my DNA. Wow. Right before you go to right before sentencing, bro. I'm like, what the fuck? Now listen, right? My my brother caught. I know they coming though. I don't know when they coming. I just knew they was coming because my little brother had called me like two weeks before that. He like, hey, yo, bro, what the fuck you doing? What the fuck is what are you doing? Tell me about some brother SWAT just kicked in our fucking door waving all these big ass guns and shit like that, bro. Like, I'm like, nigga, what you do? He said, nigga, what you do? So nigga, I ain't do nothing. He said, Well, they saying you rob somebody's house. I said, nigga, they be lying. This shit like 10 months down the line.

SPEAKER_11

Damn near a year ago.

SPEAKER_08

Down line. You forgot about it. I'm not even, I done moved out the crib. I don't live there no more. I got my own fucking house. I got everything. I'm not. This is shit is the furthest thing. I can't even fathom when this nigga told me. He like, bro, they saying you rob somebody else. I'm like, nigga, I ain't robbed nobody's house. Fuck is you talking about? He said, bro, they said on August 2022, what do you say? On August 9th, 2022, you rob somebody's crib. I'm like, man, yeah, she that was me. That was me. I did that shit. I did that shit. So now I'm panicking. I'm like, fuck. I'm already fighting this, June. They gonna probably try to roof me. I'm about to do like a little pound pupper at least. This hurt. I but nah, they sent me down on rich shit work out for me, bro. They just run that shit consecutive. So now that shit, I meant concurrent. That shit running with the shit. Yeah, shit all running together. That shit ain't even about nothing, but yeah.

SPEAKER_11

So uh now you doing your time in there, right? You upstate. You sentenced now, you know when your date is to go home. What's your outlook on life as you doing your time?

SPEAKER_08

My outlook on life, right? When I first started doing my time, bro, I was like on a type time, like, and this shit, like, I I didn't feel like I deserved to be in jail at the time.

SPEAKER_11

A lot of people feel like that.

SPEAKER_08

Right. And so me feeling as though I don't deserve to be in jail, I wasn't taken to the things that jail had to offer. Like the opportunities that you would get inside of jail. Because I wasn't trying to hear none of that shit. Bitch, I'm not even supposed to be here.

SPEAKER_11

Yeah, so I ain't taking your classes, I ain't getting no job, I don't care about none of that.

SPEAKER_08

I don't give a fuck about none of this shit. So, like, months go to pass. Like, I'm getting kicked out, my violence preventions. Um give a fuck.

SPEAKER_10

On some dumb shit.

SPEAKER_08

On some nut ass shit. Like, um I here you need that to get out. I need that to get out, right? Now listen, my whole thing is in my head, is I I don't even give a fuck, bro. I'm like, if I got to, I'm gonna just max this shit out. This is like my first, like when I first get to jail though. You feel me? Like my first couple months in. And that's on top of because they're not what my other case, like they got the shit held up, bro. Like, it's closed. The case is closed. Not closed, but like the shit was inactive. That's what he kept saying. Inactive case. Right? I'm like, bro, why the f shit inactive for six months? I get to call and around, like, no, fuck that. We gotta get this shit on like so I finally get it all figured out.

SPEAKER_12

He said we downchester.

SPEAKER_08

I downchester for like I'm probably down Chester from July to the beginning of February. I think like the end of January. Like six, seven months down Chester. Yeah, yeah. Mind you. I was getting kicked out of violence prevention classes and shit like that, but I was still in my program. You got five times and get kicked out when you was up there. I was kicked out probably like three times. But I go down on Rick and I come back. I was gone for seven months. Violence prevention high intensity is the LMR program. They made me start that shit all the way over. I'm past my minimum. Way past my minimum, like way past. So now they was supposed to see me in February, they don't even see me. They push my date back to April Perole.

SPEAKER_13

I go see Perole in April.

SPEAKER_08

They like we see you gotta do your programs. But I had just got a write-up down Chester. I was probably like seven months misconduct free when I went seeing them. Like, we see you like seven months misconduct free doing both your programs, and like you've been falling back. And so we not really gonna talk to you right now because you gotta finish your programs. Anything you gotta say, just wait and we'll see you in October. October when my program's over.

SPEAKER_11

That's when you came home just now, four months ago.

SPEAKER_08

But I left in November though.

SPEAKER_11

Any halfway house you had to do?

SPEAKER_08

No, I went on. Straight to the streets. Straight to the streets.

SPEAKER_11

So how when when so you knew your date was coming up before you got this to her? How you was feeling about a week out?

SPEAKER_08

Listen, right? It's crazy, right? Because my anxiety was like through the roof, bro. You hear me? Like, I'd be waking up. I go to sleep, I fall asleep. Like I used to turn my TV off at like 10 every night, regardless. Like you feel me? I ain't watch TV really at this 10 o'clock. Unless I woke back up. So I fall asleep, I'll wake up, bro. It'd be one o'clock. But it felt like I slept all night.

SPEAKER_15

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_08

So now I'm up and I'm just up. And sometimes I'll be like, like, you know, like gel different. So you gotta have consideration. Mm-hmm. You get what I'm saying, bro? Just Shelly in here, he's sleep, bro.

SPEAKER_11

You can't be up banging shit.

SPEAKER_08

Banging, doing all, you get what I'm saying? So it's like thankfully, like I had my TV under the bed, but like he wore the headphones. You know what I'm saying? I ain't wearing headphones. So what I be like in the bed, and I don't even really want to watch TV, but I'm up and I've been up for like an hour now. So now I'm on the type time, like, damn, I'm probably gonna have to irk my celly real fast. Cause it don't matter if the TV loud at night, that bright ass light, when you turn on that TV, that big ass blue light on the little Eden, that little E and blue light, that shit be like ding, be like, God damn. So yeah, like I know this shit by the way, but I got so much anxiety, I can't sleep. So like I'm waiting on my first, you know, like now I don't know how they did it when you left it, bro. But when I was leaving, you get your urine first, they go check your home plan, and then after like your home plan accepted and your urine come back, they give you your date. You get your date. You get your date. Unless you're not past your minimum and you made parole already, then your minimum is your date.

SPEAKER_14

You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_08

But so I'm like waiting for like, I'm probably like on the 11th day after my urine test. I already got my home plan approved and all that. So it's like a Monday or a Tuesday. I'm hot, bro. Now I'm like getting irritated. I'm walking to my counselor office, my face balled the fuck up. But Farmantino, this is my man, though, my counselor. I really fuck with my unit manager and my counselor, they really was fucking with me. Like my unit manager, like used to like be in the gym, bro. Like, yo, like when it's time for somebody, like we gotta go to class or new staff coming in or anything. My unit manager used to just be, yo, y'all know Darty Raw? This is my favorite rapper, the best rapper in the jail. Like, everywhere, bro. Like, no matter what we doing, I could be coming in to do some serious ass shit. And he like, yo, you ever seen Darty Raw videos? Come on, let's watch his videos. Like, before all my serious shit, anything, he like, let's watch his videos. Like, he my favorite rapper ever. Like, Wallahi, bro. My unit manager. Like, I used to be like, the nigga used to get me out so bro. I'm like, I'm immature, bro. Like, I'm mature, but I'm immature. Like, I can admit that. Like, bro, I'm like childish as shit at times. And I used to just be doing some dumb ass shit, like a CEO. I'll probably do some weird ass shit. And so, like, I'm on nut shit next time he comes around and do his round. I got something for him. Like, I might just like the water under my door, and he's gonna slip and bust his ass. Like, I'm doing all nut shit. But they'll catch me sometimes and like they'd be ready to write me up, but my unit manager liked me so much, nigga used to get me out of write-ups all the time, bro. Like, well, he, bro. Like, I'm not supposed to be here right now, bro. It was one night, bro. Like, I'm I'm talking about like five days before I come home, bro. They drink and we got some hooch, bro. We watching a game. I drink the hooch. The nigga called me in the office. I didn't have to go, it wasn't nothing important. But go. Being drunk, not thinking, on some dumb ass shit. I walk in there, the nigga like, dude, get the fuck out of my office. Like soon as I walk in. Soon as I walk in. I'm like, what are you talking about? He said, get the fuck out of my office, like right now. You making me mad. So now I'm like, I know what he's talking about. You get what I'm saying? Because we got this relationship. I know what he's talking about. But I'm playing dumb. I'm like, bro, what is you talking about? He said, hey, Farmatino. And he told the CEO. The others, I forget, I who the fuck was in there? I don't know. What I think his name was DeVille or something like that. But he like, yo, y'all get out real fast. He kicked him out of the orbit, bro. Closed the office. He said, bro, you drunk, bro. Why the fuck would you come in here like that? Go lock in. Like, go in your cell right now. You acting like you're not gonna be home in the next 10 days. What the fuck are you doing? Go lock in. Like, like now, go lock in. Don't come out yourself. Until you sober. That's like till he leaves at four. The nigga come to my cell at four, bro. Like, come in and check on me. Like, you cool? I'm like, yeah. He like, all right, don't come out until after, like, like, we're gonna lock in. Don't come out until the next lockout, bro. Cause you need to fix it and brush your teeth and all that. Get that smell off you. This is my unit manager, yo. Like my unit manager, like, he could root me up. And then a week later, when I get my day, he like, yeah, I should have roped your ass up. You'd have been sitting right here with me. Real shit, this is my man though, bro. Like, so he let me go, bro, and I get out of there, bro. Real shit, like this that same day when I was walking in. Life be life, bro. But like, I'm home, so like I can make this shit shake. It'd be like, you know, like life gonna hit you with elbows, hooks, jabs. This shit gonna fight you, but you just gotta fight back, bro. Like, real shit, I'm going through domestics right now, right? Because for a long time, I was loving somebody more than I was loving myself. And that shit is like a no-go for any relationship, bro. No matter how much you love a person, if you're not loving yourself correctly, bro, your relationship gonna fail. Like it's gonna fail. It's like no way around it, bro. Like, how the fuck you love anybody more than you love yourself? Like so, like, with that being said, is like now I'm gonna love myself first. And that's what I've been doing. And since I've been loving myself first, shit been going good for me. This last little two weeks, shit been epic. I go viral every time I post a video, bro. That shit do 20 at least 20k at a minimum. Got 4,000 followers, y'all do a hundred followers every day. We go on Instagram right now. Look, watch this, bro.

SPEAKER_10

I just seen Meek just follows you on all that.

SPEAKER_07

No, no, no, but watch this shit. Look, see that shit, bro? Every time we can clear this shit. You see that shit, baby bro? Every time we clear that shit right now, bro.

SPEAKER_08

And when we done the joint, that shit gonna have it.

SPEAKER_10

Like, you got a different sound.

SPEAKER_08

You get what I'm saying? And that shit catching, bro. That shit catching bad. And it's like, I didn't give him nothing yet, bro. Like, that shit be like mediocre shit, bro. Like this shit, I was writing in jail.

SPEAKER_10

No dude sent me the joint. Like, you'll listen to this damn listen, I'm like damn, they sound different.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, no.

SPEAKER_10

Rip court me from the root, bro.

SPEAKER_08

This shit be like, and then it'd be like I be really like niggas be lying. Like, you get what I'm saying, bro. Like, when I tell when I what I mean by like when I say a nigga be lying, like these niggas are fabricate their life. Like, it's nothing wrong with manifesting your life, like talking some shit into existence. But niggas be like real life, like lying, bro. Like, these niggas be out here like making drill raps and shit like that, bro. You never shot nobody, bro. You know, you a bitch, bro. You know, when you get in that fucking room, you gonna tell, bro. And you're gonna make all this tough ass music, bro. I don't even like hearing shit like that, bro. I listen to slow music, bro. I listen to like all this, like I you know my favorite song right now with y'all, Walloi Olivia Dean, Olivia Dean, man. I need I don't even know what that is, and this is what I'm saying. Yeah, I heard I heard of Olivia. Listen, right? What I'm telling y'all is right, this is my favorite song in the world right now, bro. This shit's so hot, though, bro. Right, but like you would see me and you would never think I listen to shit like that, bro.

SPEAKER_10

I listen to the dub.

SPEAKER_08

That's my bitch. Never mind now. That's my bitch, bro. Real shit, bro. This type music I listen to. A dub, bro. Real shit. Then that you feel that bitch. That bitch talk, yeah. And this is what I'm saying, bro. This type music I listen to, bro, because I like music with feeling though. Like, bro, I don't feel you when you're talking about something, yeah. I don't give a fuck about none of that, bro. I smack the shit out of you, bro. Like, put your gun down. I bet you I beat you the fuck up. Like, you get what I'm saying? So it'd be like when I'm making music, I'm making music for me and everybody that's going through the shit that I'm going through, bro, or everybody that's trying to elevate and trying to be where I'm trying to go to. I'm not making no music. Like, when I be if I made a drill song, it's substance in my drill song, so you understand what I'm talking about. Like, damn, bro, I'm doing this, but I'm doing this because this is already my life. I made bad decisions that made this my life, right? You don't gotta make them decisions to make this your life, bro. I don't want to walk around with no fucking gun. I gotta walk around with a gun because it's people that want to do stuff to me, bro. I'm up here on your bro wallahi, bro. I got on live for five fucking minutes. Nigga on my drone, talking about some drop a dot. You get what I'm saying, bro? But like I put myself in these positions, and like for the young boys that's listening, or anybody that's watching that almost fell into this arch trying to, bro. This shit not it. This shit not it, bro. I got a son, bro. I'm not trying to be out here just killing nobody for no reason. That shit corny, bro. It's all this fucking money out here. I'm trying to have fun. I'm not like all that extra me being a gangster now, bro. Everybody knows I'm a gangster, bro. You know what makes me a gangster though now, and I know I know what makes me a gangster is me being here for my fucking son. That's the most gangster shit in the world, bro. For when he be able to call, like I want to talk to my daddy for me to be able to pick up this fucking phone every time he calls and be like, Yeah, son, I'm right here. That's the most gangster shit in the world. Daddy, I want some. All right, well, we about to go get it. This is gangster to me. My mom called me, the baby. I need a thousand hours. That's gangster, bro. I could just send my mom this cheese right here. I'm not working. This is the gangster shit I'm trying to do, bro. You get what I'm saying, bro? I like literally in a rap, bro. I said, We make music about money and murder, hoping to get us famous. Chili where we at, so keep a jacket on. This shit is crazy, bro. Like, that's not ironic. Yeah, we make music about money and murder, hoping to get us famous. This is what we talk about. Yeah, no. This is what we want, and we want this to get us famous so we could push all this pollution to our next generation. So it could be just like us, fucked up and loved unhealthily. Shit be crazy, bro. And niggas is so dumb, bro. They just fall into it, bro. Like my mom mad at me right now, right? Because I told my mom firsthand, she like, baby, you need to go to court with your baby mom, and you should not let her. No, not going to court with her. She go to court by her fucking self. Why would you do that? You don't like your son? No, I love my son more than anything. She knows I love my son more than anything. So why the fuck we need some white man to kind of tell me when I can see my fucking baby. Y'all, well, you can see your son in every two weeks. You didn't lay down with me and make this fucking baby. Who is you to tell me when or when I can't see my baby?

SPEAKER_10

Man, that's G.

SPEAKER_08

What the fuck? And you want me to come in here and play this fucking circus game with you? Like these people, not they are designing this shit to push black men out of their children's lives, and they're gonna constantly do it, and these dumb ass bitches is gonna constantly fall suit and be like, all right, well, I'm gonna do it to them. I'm gonna do it to him. No, bitch, you're not gonna do it to me. Go ahead and go to court by yourself. And if they put me on child support, I'm signing my rights over. Because I love my son already, and he's gonna be taken care of regardless. I'm gonna make sure he's okay regardless, not seen him or seen him, because he's mine. But bitch, you're gonna have to explain to him why his daddy not in his life. And then I got videos and shit like right, bro. Wallahi, right? And this was like bad good, right? No bullshit. Cause I liked it that I did it, but I didn't, man. My BM was in an argument. And she said some foul ass shit to me. And I just took out my phone, I started recording, I bring my son to me. I said, Listen, fat man, if I ever gotta go without seeing you, if I ever, if you ever gotta go without seeing me, just know that like daddy always loved you, okay? And I'm always gonna be in your corner, even if I can't see you. Like, and I want you to know when, and however old you are, when this moment of time comes, that it wasn't me that didn't want to be in your life, it's your mommy pushing me out your life. She gets the recording, yeah. You trying to manipulate my fucking son, he only four. No, I'm recording and I'm telling him right now because it's been two weeks, and bro, I seen my son one time, right? And that was at her house. I had to walk in her house for like 10 minutes to go see my son because she told me she feels like I'm unstable and I can't have my baby. But I'm unstable because why? I put somebody else on Instagram.

SPEAKER_11

I'm hoping everybody is watching this interview, man, and listening. Yeah. Because a lot of people come from these walks of life, man. A lot of people done walked in these shoes, you don't walk, you you're currently walking in and getting better with. You starting to understand a whole nother it ain't just about us no more. Like you said, it's your son, too.

SPEAKER_08

It's my son, bro. And it'd be like, what I'm saying is right at a young age, bro. I was always smart and I always like looked at shit different. So, like at a young age, I started understanding certain aspects of life, right? And now, like, I'm getting the full grasp of life as what it is in a whole. You get what I'm saying? Because like everybody don't live, bro, just because they alive. There's a lot of people just existing and just floating through the fucking abyss, not doing nothing. You get what I'm saying, bro? Like, I'm trying to live, bro. I want to like really live. Life, bro. I don't want to die with no regrets and no shit like that, bro. I want to do everything I planned on and set out to do. I don't wanna be broke, I don't wanna be no fucking killer, I don't wanna be none of it. I wanna be a fly ass, getting money ass, taking care of this kid's ass nigga. That's what I want to be. Like all the other shit be like null and void, bro, and the hottest rapper ever.

SPEAKER_10

Like I don't really feel like nobody fucking with me, but asking a lock and sock um question before we had to get the calls.

SPEAKER_11

Yeah, uh, I'm quite sure. Well, let me ask you, did you see during your time incarcerated, did you see uh any violence that take place in them joins?

SPEAKER_08

Oh yeah, fuck yeah, bro.

SPEAKER_11

You seen knife work?

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, seen knife work.

SPEAKER_11

You seen that lock and sock work?

SPEAKER_08

Oh my goodness, that lock and the sock is like, yeah, bro.

SPEAKER_11

But this is this is a question I'll be asking everybody that's coming up here, because a lot of people that come up here, you know, done a lot of time, or done time in jail. Um, I want to ask you this question to see what you say. Now, if you this is just a hypothetical question. You and another dude, y'all in jail, y'all arguing, right? Somebody come around, a couple dudes come around, they squash y'all from arguing, they getting, they get in between y'all, calm y'all down, y'all squash. You go about your way on the unit, he go about his way on the unit, it's over with. In your mind, you like, all right, man, that's somebody I used to I'm gonna mess with anyway, it's cool. You go watching TV. In his mind, he like, nah, I'm I'm busting him. I'm I'm gonna get him and I'm gonna fuck him up. He's sliding up behind you and you don't know. You're you're watching TV. And he's definitely gonna get you because you don't know. Would you rather him have that knife or that lock inside? The knife. Why do you say the knife?

SPEAKER_08

Because, bro, you get one swing with this knife, bro. That that lock, you can just swing that bitch. That's all over the place. You got Viada there. That nigga got one swing with this knife, it depends on where he's trying to hit you. Everybody not trying to kill people, bro. Yeah. Niggas be bitches, bro. I done watch niggas do the nuttiest. I done seen the nuttiest stabbings in jail. Like, bro, that's what the fuck was that for, bro? You just got us locked down for that.

SPEAKER_11

Yeah, you run around playing.

SPEAKER_08

Are you serious? You just stabbed him in his forearm, bro? Like, this is what you why? Why, bro? Why? We not now we locked down for four hours. Because you want to stab him in the arm. Like, like, nah, bro, I don't be on no shit like that. Stab that nigga, you gonna stab him, bro. Get me locked down for two hours. Yeah, bro, the nigga shit split all the way open. Listen, right? We in Chester, bro. I'm on um, I what it was, it was D D B, right? This is a big ass pot, bro. This shit biggest shit, right? So the nigga on the phone, he popping dog shit to his man or whoever he on the phone with. But he owes cuz some cheese for the sub. He just bought some subs off the other nigga on the block, but he don't know him and the boy be doing business. Cuz come right down and walking, like, why he on the phone? Like, he look at it, he like damn bro. Like, you got some subs today. He talking about something, yeah, bro. But I'm gonna get you nailing. I don't just start knowing. Guard's bitch and the lady guard, right? This bitch so scared, she trying to call a response. She keeps dropping the fucking walk walkie and shit. Like, oh my god, bro, oh my god, he's killing over this hospital. Bro, that shit was so crazy, right? And I'm looking, right? My man, like, yo, bro, he beating the shit out of this nigga. I'm like, Yeah, I know, I know. I know we're crazy. That lock work crazy. Y'all looking like damn. Oh, a nigga never hit me with a fucking yeah, me either, man.

SPEAKER_10

How he was, he was like, he was done at that jump.

SPEAKER_08

He was done up, bro. You feel me? Nigga on the floor, like in a fetal position, bro. But like, that wasn't the worst shit I seen. The worst shit I seen was in RCF, bro. Like a nigga was like playing crazy. He was on the um tablet with his bitch, and you know, like the tablets, they got the new tablets now. They around, but before they had them, they had the corny ass tablets. You sit that joint up, and like you want your girl to get nasty or anything, you got had a towel. So niggas be throwing a towel over the drone, like over the head. So this nigga on there, I guess him and his bitch getting nasty, but he forgot he was just arguing with the nigga earlier. Cuz come behind him while he on the joint, just start banging him out, bro. Like, and really like stabbing him though. Like the shit had me nervous, and I'm a gangster. You hear me? I'm looking like, oh bro, he's gonna catch the body, bro. He's gonna kill the he stabbing him, bro. Right? He starts stabbing all right here at first, like all right here, and was really banging the shit out of him, bro. Like, and the shit you see, the blood start shooting, nigga shit on himself and all that, bro. Like, shit, pissed on itself. She running to the guards, she like the bitch tell him nigga, if you don't get the fuck away from me, guards ain't in there helping you, they help you at all.

SPEAKER_10

She's fumbling with the jaw, she can't even call a response.

SPEAKER_08

Bro, this bitch told him, nigga, if you don't get the fuck away, bro, he getting stabbed, the nigga still chasing him.

SPEAKER_10

Stay out of jail. Stay out of jail, bro.

SPEAKER_08

Stay out of jail, man. Guards ain't gonna help you nothing. This bitch, like, if you don't get the fuck away, like cause the nigga shitting on himself and all that, bro. She and she still didn't call a response. Like, she trying to let the nigga kill him or something, bro. He like, just call response. She finally called response. They come spray the big ass can, bro. Shit hit everybody. Shit hot as shit. Whole block choke. Whole block. Yo, yo, give me some milk. Yo, yo, yo, bro. Shit, oh bad in that jump, bro. And then be like, in jail, you meet a lot of niggas that's not like that, but portrayed it be like that too. You get what I'm saying? Like, it's easy for niggas, like, if you big, like you in jail, you working out, it's easy for you to put on an image for a nigga. I feel like like cause a nigga kind of jump and be like, damn, that nigga strong as shit. He probably been in here for a while fucking people up. Whole time he's a cool bitch too. Like, I done ran into some big bitches in jail, bro. Like, like, and niggas be big as shit though. Like, and you you was swear that he was tough, but like it was this one time, right? I was this old head, it was blood old head. He was heavy in Chester. So my man had burnt in with some deuce. Like, and he like, man, bro, fuck that nigga, bro. I don't really care. So old keeps sending word through the blood, young boys and all the blood and niggas in the jail. Yeah, tell him when we duh duh duh. So we walking down a fucking hall one day. It's me and my man, we going to class. We catch the fucking old head. Walking. So my man, like, damn, oh head, you keep doing it. Sending word back, like my man got his joint on him. He like, don't go nowhere without it. So now oh head, like, what my man straight up pull on him. Yeah, nigga. So now what we really do. Oh my no, no, you listen, right? You can keep that shit. I ain't gonna lie, like that shit. I was just mad because like you could have told me you needed it instead of like telling me you was gonna pay me and then burning me. But to show you that it's water under the bridge, and I ain't really worried about it, little bro. Step to the side with me. He stepped to the side, bro, and get this nigga a whole ID. I'm looking at blood oh here the run, supposed to run all the blood and all this shit. And then I'm looking like my man walk back over, he's smiling, he like, bro. I told bro, the niggas be bitches, bro. I'm looking at oh, I never look at my man, I'm still looking at oh, I want to catch his eyes. Like he finally look at me, I'm like, What he just shake his head and walk away. I'm like, bro, this shit is like this shit be like a movie, bro. That shit is like not what niggas think. Don't be in jail, bro. Them niggas be faggots and all that, bro. It'll be the toughest niggas, bro. Be cold fucking faggots in that joint, bro. And you be like, bro, listen, right? I'm walking around. Listen, nigga, I'm not gonna say his name, bro. But this was my man for like two months, bro. He was sterile as shit, bro. We walked in the yard, he with the guys and all that. Like, I what was it? Was like June, right? No, I'm lying. It was it was like September. I just had got the fucking, I came in July, it was September. It was I just got there. I was there for like a month and a half. I met him and we got cool like a week after I met him, and then we was cool for like two months. He was walking with the gang, we doing bro. The trendy nigga come out to the yard one day and just start exposing this nigga. He be sucking my dick ass class. We sneak out, we go to the bathroom. Bro, we all looking at him and the nigga not saying nothing though, bro. He just like put his head down. Come on, bro. I got a lot of time, bro. What? Bro, come on, bro. What you got a lot of what? This nigga had what, like a 10 to 20 year? That's some time, but bro, you've been gay.

SPEAKER_10

Yeah, you been putting it.

SPEAKER_11

You benefag it, bro. Yeah, man. Everybody out there that's listening, man. Please stay out of jail, man, because this is not a place that, you know, even though a lot of us think that we can be men, and you know, in in a lot of us can't as you see, this man went and did it. My cousin went and did it, I did it. But I'll tell you right now, I'll be the first nigga to tell you I'm scared to death to go back. I'm scared to death to go back. I told my mom I ain't going back to fucking jail. Yeah, man. Ain't nobody keep trying to do that. And you know, it's it is what it is, man. But we're gonna uh everybody uh can you put the number up, man? Because we're gonna have some uh guests calling. I mean, got some people calling.

SPEAKER_08

Can I ask y'all one question? What was the hardest part about jail for y'all? For us, besides the family thing though, like we gonna exclude the family because we know that's the hardest part, but besides that, like really in jail. When I ain't got no commerce there, hardest part I'd be having commerce here and stuff.

SPEAKER_10

I'm trying to.

SPEAKER_11

Yeah, see, I had a whole bunch of nights, and then I got to be forced to do shit, rob and all that it goes run down on the nigga hut. Yeah, so yeah, get like this.

SPEAKER_10

My hardest time when I was over DC in the hole in the middle of the summer with no ventilation, shit was hot, shit was hot. I feel like I was about to die. You had to be in there with your man because you had you couldn't wear nothing but your boxes. Real shit. And this is listen, right? We used to sleep all day, be up all night.

SPEAKER_08

All night. That's how we was doing it in the hole. Real shit. My hardest thing to deal with in Dell, right? Cause I get visits, bro. Bro, when that nigga make you strip out every time. Yeah, that'd be crazy, bro. And then, like, listen, right.

SPEAKER_10

I don't understand stripping before you go out here, though.

SPEAKER_08

What is that? What is that about, right? Now, this is what fucked me up. This is the shit. Listen, bro, I'm I'm going on one visit, right? This like I'm this is probably like my fourth visit. And like, I'm bringing a nice little buddy up there, so like the guards be on some dickie and shit. You feel what I'm saying? So I'm going, I'm going to get processed and shit. I'm usually the it's this thorough ass old head that was doing it. So like they say they gotta strip you out, but the nigga was never really like on that. He'll be like, yo, go ahead, take your like shit off real fast. But he'll never like make you take your drawers off or nothing. Do not extra, bro. You feel what I'm saying? He'd then be like, grab you and shake him and like flop, like, yeah. So I'm like, all right. I go this time, it's this, it's this fat, light-skinned nigga, bro. He's a fucking faggot. I know he was gay, bro. And I go at, listen, right? I'm going in there, and mind you, this is like my fifth visit, but I'm always used to the bull. So I'm never used to getting naked to go on my visit. It's not even a thing. You get what I'm saying? I go in there, the nigga like strip, I strip. He's like, all right, no, take your underwear off. I'm like other cu other bro don't ever make us do that. He just make us like the nigga like you want your visit or not, nigga. You gonna drop your draws or you're not getting your visit. Bro, now the nigga talking to me like this, bro. I'm ready to flip the fuck out, bro. Like, who is you understood it? Who is you talking to, bro? Like, either drop your draws or you're not getting your visit, bro. Who the what the fuck is this, bro? What? Bro, I'm hot, bro. I'm hot, bro. But my bitch out there, she waiting for me. I want my visit. You feel me? So now I'm like, all right, fuck it. I take my underwear off, I flop my the nigga like feet up, do all the shit. And now when it comes to the ass part, bro, like you know you supposed to squat, like, and call. Then nigga talking about some bend over and spread. I looked at him, I said, all right, but bro, like, see, like now you're doing too much. I don't give a fuck about this visit, bro. Like, then you want some faggot ass shit, bro. Like, you really gay. Like, I'm about to write you up, bro. I'm gonna grievance the shit out you. Like, real shit, you doing a lot. They be scared of them grievous, especially when you know how to write them. Bro, I would great the shit out you, bro. Like, you on some real faggot shit, bro. Like, real shit, bro. I'll make sure like, so now the nigga like he trying to argue with me. Now the nigga that usually do my drones come in. That's he was on lunch or something. He's like, uh oh, don't worry about it, bro. I got you, bro. Go ahead. He tell the lights in boy, go ahead. The light skin boy, like, no, I got him. I got him. I told you been over and spread. What? Now the the other car look at him like bro, go ahead, bro. I got him. This like I fuck with cuz, like, he good, bro. Go ahead. Soon as he walked out, he like, bro, don't pay him no mind. I think he a faggot, bro. Like, real shit. He be on some weird shit with everybody. This is never CEO telling me this though, bro. And this is what I'm saying, bro. That was the hardest shit I had to deal with, bro. I think I all fucked up shit, bro. Bro, that shit used to be having me hot, bro. Like, why the fuck I gotta keep getting naked in front of you, bro? To go see my girl. What the fuck?

SPEAKER_11

Going in and coming out.

SPEAKER_08

Going in and coming out. Don't let you have to go to the fucking bathroom. Strip. Yup. What the fuck, nigga? I'm pissing, bro. I just like, what are you talking about? Strip? No, strip. That shit used to be crazy, bro. Like, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_11

Yeah. You know, that shit cooked me. Stay out of there, man. Please. Please, man. Like, it's not, it's not physically right for you. It's not mentally right for you, man. Um, we're gonna throw this number up here, man. Get to these calls, man. Because, you know, I'm quite sure uh a few people might want to ask you questions or, you know, ladies, call in, man, you know, uh, with your questions, man. I want to hear more from the mothers, the girlfriends, the uh wives, you know, about significant others, or maybe uh a relative that's locked up. Uh you know, but uh yeah, we're gonna put this number up here, man, and get to these calls, man, for uh the family. But yeah, man. Damn, boy. So you ain't planning on going back to jail, is you? I'm not going back to jail.

SPEAKER_08

I'm planning on getting rich. Look, you see that shit? Every time. Shit be waming.

SPEAKER_11

The number is, y'all. Please call in, man. 215-316-4492. I repeat, 215-316-4492. But yeah, man, damn, boy. So what are uh some of the things that you got going on, man, that help you, you know, to better yourself and society now that you're free, man?

SPEAKER_08

I'm more so focused on my music, bro. That's all. I was like, I from what I see, like, they fuck with me. You feel me? Mm-hmm. Bro, I came home, I had 110 followers. You feel me? I'm at four.

SPEAKER_11

Tell us from the jails who we're talking to.

SPEAKER_03

Hey, uh, this is actually Jarty's mom. I want to ask some uh you aware though, though. What advice would you came in? What advice would you give to mothers to help their son stay out of your position, uh out of prison?

SPEAKER_08

Listen to your sons. They cry for help all the time, but y'all see it and y'all ignore it because y'all don't see them crying out in the way that y'all expect them to be crying out.

SPEAKER_03

So, what does it look like when they crying out?

SPEAKER_08

What should we be on out? It'd be a whole lot of shit. It's a new day and age. So, like social media take up mostly everything. You see a motherfucker telling you they depress all day on Instagram, and you would just be scrolling, like they just posting it. People don't just be posting that shit for no reason, and some people act like they posting it for no reason because they don't want to look like they looking for sympathy. But I'm telling you, as a young black man that dealt with a lot of adversities with my mother, that loving and really understanding and listening to hear and not listening to repeat. I meant the rebuttal help you a lot with your with your children, like your your boys, especially.

SPEAKER_11

What'd you say?

SPEAKER_10

Okay, we appreciate you for calling in.

SPEAKER_11

Yeah, we appreciate you for calling in, man. Stay free, man, and stay being the mother you are out there. Yeah, that was a uh that was very that was a very, very good. Yeah, we clipping that converse. Yeah, that whole old that whole low joint, bro. That joint made like damn near brought a tear to my eyes, man. And she listened, bro. Yeah, because if my only bro, that's my best friend. No, but she shut up and listened to you, bro. That's my best friend, bro. She gave you the floor. She ain't have a rebuttal for that. She right now, she's thinking, Damn. Have you had she even ever asked you this question before?

SPEAKER_08

No, that was the first time, bro. That's crazy as shit, right? Because she asked me a lot of things. Like, I took, bro, like, that was crazy. She watching this whole jump, bro. She watching this whole, she never clicked off, bro. Like, she she was as soon as she as soon as y'all said calls, she was dialing that number, having that shit sitting right there. Like, I'm about to call right now. Like, she's so jealous, bro. She is a stalker, bro. Like, real shit, bro. But it's like, that's my best friend, bro. Like, I call my mom every morning. I call her like three times a day because Jenna is at the foot of your mother, bro. Like, who the fuck? Like, and for a long time I was young and I was being loved unhealthily, and that caused me to be a disrespectful child, and I didn't even understand how disrespectful I was. You get what I'm saying? This shit that I said and did to my mom that I think about now, and I want to cry, bro. Like my mom is my world. I don't love nobody more than I love my own. Fuck, I was disrespecting her. Like she ain't give me life. And even though she may have done some things wrong, she may have loved me incorrectly sometimes, bro. She always foot the bill and she never gave up on me, bro. She was just doing her best being a 17-year-old having a baby, bro. She a baby having a baby. Fuck gonna teach her how to be a parent and she never been one. She just gotta learn. And I watch how she raised my little brothers now, and I watch the shit that she does now, and it makes my heart warm. Because I know I helped her get to that. We helped each other. Because we was learning together. That was my first friend, bro. I'm her first, like, real, real friend. Like, like I came from her. Like, it's nothing that's gonna ever separate us, even when we mad at each other. You feel your umie. No matter what, regardless, you can act like you're mad at her, you mad that you're mad at her because you just want to love her, because it's your umie. So it be like, when I learned that and I finally got the understanding with of that, I start lowering my gauges and checking myself when it came to my mother and acting like I understand that that's my mother. She could tell me Day Kwan the sky purple, and I'm gonna tell her, all right, man, that shit purple. My mom. She wants the sky to be purple, the shit purple. I know it's blue. You know it's blue. We see it. She a female. Females, that's just who they are. They want what they want. They're gonna act how they act. And if we love them the way we post to, then we gonna love them the way we supposed to.

SPEAKER_11

That was that was calling, y'all. Yeah, that was that was deep right there, man. Um, damn. Damn, man. Love your mothers, man. Let your mothers, man. Like you said, man. At the end of the day, they mothers might, you know, do some things out of if they ain't trying to force no gun into your head and tell you all right to do something, then man. Love your mother, man. Everybody make mistakes, man. You know what I mean? And it's hard, man, especially when you're growing up by yourself. It's just her. Don't have no siblings. Oh my god. She don't know what this woman is battling, man. Emotionally, you know. So love your mothers, man. Tell us from the jails, man, who we speaking with.

SPEAKER_09

Hi, my name's Ish.

SPEAKER_11

Hey, hey, Ace, where are you calling from?

SPEAKER_09

Southwest.

SPEAKER_11

Southwest, stand up. What's up? What we can do for you today.

SPEAKER_09

Um, I always listen to you guys and always hear talk about the girls not riding, but I was a rider.

SPEAKER_11

Okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_09

Um, I almost lost my whole future.

SPEAKER_11

You uh what happened now?

SPEAKER_09

Almost lost my whole future for my beautiful. Um, I got locked up six. I mean, uh, probably about 10 months after I bought something up there.

SPEAKER_11

Right.

SPEAKER_09

And then um, I don't get in there with him for a long time. You lasted 15 years.

SPEAKER_11

Yeah. Damn, do you see that? I said you did the whole 15 years with him.

SPEAKER_09

Yeah, I rolled 15. He's still in there, but I spent 15 years with him. And almost lost my whole future, but thank God for the ARD program.

SPEAKER_11

Well, um, do you mind explaining how you almost lost your whole future?

SPEAKER_09

I brought some stuff up to the person for him.

SPEAKER_08

He didn't love you asking asking you to do that though.

SPEAKER_09

Yeah, but you know, I realize that now.

SPEAKER_11

Did you do you did you get caught?

SPEAKER_09

I did, but I didn't get caught on like when we when I left to visit, they checked me, they didn't find anything, and then about a month later, they called him because he must ahead, but you know, they made him you know. No, what happened was I believe he was telling other guys in the mirror what I was doing for him, and they used to be jealous because I used to come visit every other week and he caught, you know, and seriously though. They actually did it. They came at me um a month and a half and for example. And I ignored them and they came for me like ten months later. They got me in October. It happened like in January.

SPEAKER_11

Wow. Wow. So how's the uh the re like everything went south with you and this guy that you was dealing with?

SPEAKER_09

That you waster I went to court and I I sat for three weeks up in the uh county where he was located. He was up in Mahanoy.

SPEAKER_08

Okay. Oh, he was in Monohoe. Oh, you and they locked you up out there.

SPEAKER_09

Yeah, well, they came to my job and got me.

SPEAKER_10

Wow. That's embarrassed. I know you felt embarrassed.

SPEAKER_09

Yeah, that that's they didn't try to embarrass me at work. They did, but they didn't. So they said if I walked out and I didn't run, they would just let me go up, you know, without the cuffs, and then when I got to the car, they cuffed me.

SPEAKER_11

Damn. That's that that that's crazy, right? So what is you and his relationship right now as of today?

SPEAKER_09

Oh, we're not together no more, but I watched this because I'll tell you back in the summertime, I reconnected with him after five years of not dealing with him.

SPEAKER_16

Right.

SPEAKER_09

And it was the worst mistake I could have done. But I felt sympathy when I listened to your podcast, because I was like, damn, like some things you don't know, how you guys be feeling from the inside. And I was like, but he broke off with me because I, you know, I stopped helping, and I used to help him a lot. And I guess because I stopped helping commentary-wise, he like was like don't even go on to the next person.

SPEAKER_11

Well, at least you know what go ahead. You was what you were saying.

SPEAKER_09

I was just gonna say we were together 15 years and three years into the relationship, that's when the whole incident happened where I got locked up. And I wrote it out for 15 years.

SPEAKER_11

Fifteen whole years.

SPEAKER_10

What do you got, like seven?

SPEAKER_09

Yeah. But I didn't know at the time because um my ex got killed, and his homie was in prison at the time, and I came and tell his homie how that went down, and he wound up putting me on his friend's list, and that's how I met my new boyfriend. So it wasn't exactly like I went up there looking for it, I got put on.

SPEAKER_11

Right, right. Well, well, I I'm I know you probably know better today.

SPEAKER_09

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_11

You won't make these things. You gotta, you know, you gotta know when someone is using you and when someone is misusing you. Facts, you know.

SPEAKER_09

Yes, and you know what I when I met him, I was 25, but when we got done dealing, I was 40.

SPEAKER_11

Right.

SPEAKER_09

So I put time in with this guy. Like, I mean, you know, like you said, when you on the outside and you the girlfriend, you really are serving time with them.

SPEAKER_07

Yes, you are.

SPEAKER_09

You are, and I said I'm not I'm one of the exceptions to the rule. I did ride for him, I did anything I could for him. But when I noticed that he knew I threw my almost threw my freedom away from him, it was like he didn't give a fuck. After a while, he just didn't care.

SPEAKER_11

Yeah. Damn, damn. Only thing I can say is, man, I hope you learned and you know, see what's going on. I hope everything that you that that that you went through that you learned a valuable lesson, man. You know, we break.

SPEAKER_15

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_11

Like, cause these is real live events, man. I'm glad that you called in and explained that, man. Like, you let you almost threw it all the way, man. And I'm glad that you still can be a witness of this and still make it out on the the the right side of the you mean field.

SPEAKER_09

Yeah, because even when I came back, like uh I like I said, I started watching y'all in the summertime. I started writing them because I started feeling bad. Like maybe I didn't understand even back then. But then when I got back in contact with him, it was about what can you do for me? And that's when I started seeing the real side of him. When I was younger, I didn't see it, but I see it now.

SPEAKER_11

Yeah, okay. That's right. Man, you keep that up, man, and you and you stay with this mindset that you have and don't let no one misuse you, out on the street or incarcerated. Facts.

SPEAKER_09

No, never again.

SPEAKER_11

Man, thank you for all the support, man. And um, you have a great night and stay safe out there.

SPEAKER_16

You too.

SPEAKER_11

Yep.

SPEAKER_16

All right.

SPEAKER_11

We got another coffee. Yeah, man, that was crazy right there, man. She did that time with that brother, man. And you know, he he he had her to come up there, man, with some drugs, man. Like anybody that you love, you wouldn't put through that. For me being in there, like I see that for.

SPEAKER_10

When she stopped looking out for him, though.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, that's crazy, right? And that's the whole thing. Like, I ain't gonna lie, I would never ever ask none of my females to bring nothing to me in jail, bro.

SPEAKER_11

Tell some of jails who we speaking with.

SPEAKER_17

Oh man, oh man, that's your boy. Hey, listen, I'm Stampin' Guardian, the drippiest, Kevy Rapper. He's the drippiest. You need all the drip. I need you to tag all the drip. I need these sweatpants, and you be feeling me, bro.

SPEAKER_08

Good looking, good looking.

SPEAKER_17

I'm feeling all the drip, bro. I'm peeping. I'm I'm I'm I'm looking at the I'm I'm feeling the bars. The bars is definitely heavy, but I'm I'm peeping the drip. So you put it together, young, young female.

SPEAKER_10

I need them.

SPEAKER_17

I need to see. Yeah, I need all them track pants with the with the with the three stripes down the leg. I need you to tag all that shit. I need all that shit, man.

SPEAKER_08

Got you, bro. Go ahead, DM me, bro. DM me, I'm gonna send you all of my links, man. I got you.

SPEAKER_17

Yeah, I'm gonna do that right now. I need all that.

SPEAKER_11

All right, shit. Thanks for calling up, man. Be safe. He thinks I'm fly. Tell us who we speaking with.

SPEAKER_02

Hey, listen, y'all speaking with the win and only. Topic page. All in live. He was covered that what's up.

SPEAKER_11

Hey, what's up with what's up with you, Tom Feek? How you doing, man? What's up with you, man?

SPEAKER_10

We miss you out here.

SPEAKER_11

You said what? What's going on? What's going on? We we we not on duty over here.

SPEAKER_02

I did I done here. No uh not on duty. I had all kinds of stuff. People think they draws off and they over there.

SPEAKER_10

That's what they be on, bent over.

SPEAKER_11

That's what they're doing in them put it over here, but no ditty. You better stay out of there. No ditty. They ain't trying to hit not on duty in their feet. You gotta say all the not on duty you want. You gonna be on duty.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I don't know. I felt like y'all had y'all had a good uh some good time up there, man.

SPEAKER_11

Yeah, dark skin beauty, you know what I'm saying? Uh 777, you know what I'm saying? Everybody is giving you love, man. Sending you love, man, and support, man, and they want you back, man. Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. So we I'll be back, I'll be back sooner sooner than later. But you know, I just want to say that, you know, um take some to the audience, man. You know, I um I appreciate everybody for uh for tuning into the show. I appreciate y'all keeping it uh the show going. You know, I just had to set ways for a while to get some business uh together. But I'll be back, you know, we'll be back uh, you know, stronger than ever. Shout out to you, doing your thing. Uh shout out to the uh the guests on the show. You know, everybody doing anything. Shout out to you, young man, you know. Good luck, big bro. I appreciate that. Yo, James with Flames in there and all the guys.

SPEAKER_11

I ain't seen, I ain't seen James with Flames. Hopefully, James, you free. Hopefully, you can come back and watch this live later to later. Because this ain't like you, James. Dark Skin Beauty, check on James, man. Get James a shout out, man. Go make sure James is good.

SPEAKER_02

Uh the whole squad in there, everybody's in there. Just chilling, man. You know, I see everybody. Dark skin beauty in there. Dark skin beauty always there.

SPEAKER_10

Alarm and read.

SPEAKER_11

No, she came late today though, so I ain't she got in here about 20 minutes ago. Yeah, man. I'm gonna give her a look. Yeah, please talk to you. Nigga, you can just call and talk.

SPEAKER_08

Just call up here. You can call and ask anything you want.

SPEAKER_11

Yeah, we gotta. Huh?

SPEAKER_02

Y'all uh y'all doing your thing, man. You know, keep doing what keep doing what y'all doing, man.

SPEAKER_10

Um they thought you was locked up, bo on to a feet. You ain't locked up, man. If I was locked up, my book better be stacked.

SPEAKER_11

Yes, K.

SPEAKER_10

Yeah, we're gonna look out for you.

SPEAKER_11

All right, bro, man. Be safe out there, man. We gotta take these calls, boy. Come on back. All right. All right, like a slam. Tell us Majels who we speaking with. Yeah, man. The object, man, that we trying to get out there, man, is stay free, man. All this stuff, man, that you hear is what's going on at an alarming rate, man. And they ain't stopping, man. These beds is empty. These beds, they got a lot of beds, man. They got a lot of fucking beds. They got bed space out this world, man, and this is going on anywhere you go. Tell us the jails who we speaking with.

SPEAKER_05

Hello.

SPEAKER_11

Yeah, hello.

SPEAKER_05

Hey, my name is Seymour.

SPEAKER_11

Hey, how what'd you say your name was?

SPEAKER_05

Shema. Oh, Shema.

SPEAKER_11

Hey, baby, Seema. Where you calling from?

SPEAKER_05

Uh, North Carolina.

SPEAKER_11

Okay, North Carolina, stand up. Uh, what can we do for you?

SPEAKER_05

Well, um, I got my papers here, and we were just kind of talking about my pastime, and he was like, Yeah, I be watching the tag uh uh this podcast, uh podcast. Um he was like, Yeah, you need to come. He was like the only females ever come that's been mocked up.

SPEAKER_10

Oh, you've been incarcerated?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, I was at uh I was at Hazel Time. Uh doing fair time. I did um 61 months.

SPEAKER_10

You gotta write my DM page so I can so I can get contact with you. DM the self in the jail page.

SPEAKER_08

Y'all gotta get her up here.

SPEAKER_11

She did 60 months. Yeah, that's five years. That's five years, one day. One day. She did a strong page. Oh no, excuse me, five years, one month. She did 61 months. Yeah, 61 months. Yeah, five years, one month.

SPEAKER_10

You follow us on social media?

SPEAKER_05

I don't, but I'm pretty sure my people's gonna show me.

SPEAKER_11

Well, yeah, yeah, tap in, man. DM us, man. We mean we might get you up here, man. See what's going on, man, because we need to hear it from a woman's side too, man. Everybody, no one is exempt from going to prison. Yo, y'all know we are trying to get up here.

SPEAKER_04

Absolutely not.

SPEAKER_11

Remy Ma. You know what I'm saying? Like, if that'll be heavy. Oh, yeah, we're trying to look into you. I mean, we we're gonna try to get reach out to her. Remy Ma did her time. Yep. That'd be heavy.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, I love me from Remy. Yeah, most definitely. And a lot of people in the field that I'm in right now, they're looking at me and they're like, nah, you didn't you don't look like you got enough time. And I'm like, yeah, I did. But you know what I'm saying, like the person I'm in now is to help.

SPEAKER_11

Uh as well bring tough on Tales from the jail. She did a little money. Hopefully, man, this made you a better person, man, and you a better person d what than what you was before you went in.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, yeah, most definitely. I mean, I was a force to reckon with them beforehand, but now all right.

SPEAKER_11

Thank you for the call, man. You stay safe.

SPEAKER_10

Yeah, be safe up there.

SPEAKER_11

Be careful asleep.

SPEAKER_05

Absolutely. I'm gonna go ahead and get the information for my people.

SPEAKER_11

Okay.

SPEAKER_05

All right.

SPEAKER_11

Tell some of jails who we speaking with.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, what's up, man? It's play, man. That's why I lica.

SPEAKER_11

Where are you calling from?

SPEAKER_06

What's going on, man? I'm calling from Philly, man, Kensington.

SPEAKER_11

Okay, what's up, man? What can we do for you today?

SPEAKER_06

Nothing, man. I'm just calling to tap in, show my man some love and support, man. Dirty, I love you, bro. You gotta keep that shit up, baby boy.

SPEAKER_11

You already know, bro.

SPEAKER_08

I love you too. You heard me?

SPEAKER_11

Thanks for the calling, man. Stay safe out there, man.

SPEAKER_06

Yes, sir. Thank y'all.

SPEAKER_11

Um yeah, we're gonna take a few more calls, man. Couple more calls, man, before we wrap this up. Somebody want right now for you? Tell us from the jazz, who we talking to?

SPEAKER_04

Uh, Jazzy O'Donnell.

SPEAKER_08

Oh shit, Jazzy O'Donnell. What's up, baby?

SPEAKER_04

Darty, Darty.

SPEAKER_08

What's up, cousin?

SPEAKER_04

Um, my question for you is what's the one thing you got for the youth to stay away from prison?

SPEAKER_08

One thing I got for the youth to stay away from prison. I believe that like everybody got dreams, right? And aspirations. You should really focus on the stuff that you dream and aspire to be and not focus on all the negativity or trying to keep up with trends that people are setting because social media is just that. Social media. It don't mean that this is personal life. Are he really living, or she really living like that? They might just be making it look good, and you trying to keep up, and all they doing is making it look good, and you will crash out trying to do that.

SPEAKER_16

Take your time, be patient.

SPEAKER_10

Patience is a virtue, and it'll save your life.

SPEAKER_08

Yes, it will.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I love you. All right, thank you. Kiss my knee.

SPEAKER_11

Thank you for calling in, and you be safe out there.

SPEAKER_04

Uh, you as well.

SPEAKER_11

Yeah, man. So, you mean she she she got right to that's the question I wanted to ask you for the youth. But what about these grown people? What advice do you got to these grown people?

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, no, the advice I got for the grown people, the realest advice I got for the grown people is listen to the youth. Like, really listen to them though. Like, stop, like hear them out, like not hear them out so you can have a rebuttal or tell them what they're doing wrong or what they need to be doing. Cause did you want to hear that shit when you was young? Like be an heir. And then maybe you could talk to somebody and get through to more people if you listening to them. Cause don't nobody want to talk or be heard from a person that's not listening to them, right? I'm not tripping, am I?

SPEAKER_11

No, no, you ain't tripping, bro. You ain't tripping.

SPEAKER_08

Like, you don't remember when you was young and like you would try to have a conversation like with your mom, your aunt, anybody, and they'll be like trying to nud you off, like the shit that you got to say don't matter. And now you in jail and she trying to tell you, you should have been listening. No, you should have been listening when I was trying to talk to you. I might not be in jail. But you kept pushing me off and making me feel like I was being neglected, so I went outside to feel like I was needed and I was wanted by the people that I never needed to be wanted by. I needed to be wanted by you, but you wasn't wanting me, so I went outside and now I'm in jail and you judging me.

SPEAKER_11

And that's major, bro. Us as you know, motivational speakers or content creators in a positive manner, or parents, or even figures like that's placed in high places in life. You gotta listen, man. You gotta listen, man. Just cause you're older don't mean you know it all. And I and sometimes I like to think that I know everything. Me too. But I'll be thinking I'm big shit. I'll be like, yeah, motherfucker can't tell me, but I could be told some shit, man. I have been told some shit.

SPEAKER_08

You know what I learned is to know everything, you gotta listen to everything. So sometimes you gotta shut the fuck up. That's it. Like my dad used to say it all the time, bro. Like, you got two ears, one mouth. You supposed to listen more than you talk. That's just like inevitable. You got two ears, one mouth. Shut up, listen. Sometimes you can learn. You can learn. Like, bro, I like learning, bro. You hear me? Like, it ain't nothing wrong with being smart. Like, I think that this new generation thinks like it's uncool to be intelligent. Like, what you want to run around and be a fucking dummy for? I don't really know no girls that want a dummy. Like this for my young boys, and I don't really know no nigga that want a dumb bitch. This is for my young females. You know what I'm saying? So, like, it'd be like, you gotta make it make sense.

SPEAKER_11

Tell us from the jails who we speaking with.

SPEAKER_05

This is dark skin beauty calling in from home along.

SPEAKER_11

Dark skin beauty, what's up? You got here all late today. Bye, girl.

SPEAKER_05

I know, I was with you, the kids, the kids.

SPEAKER_11

Okay, yeah, you gotta take care of responsibilities, and then you mean ain't nothing wrong with that. That's the old that's what life is about for us adults. What the baby's gonna do. You mean but uh what's up? What could we what can we do for you today, Dark Skin Beauty?

SPEAKER_05

Um, so I just wanted to say, um, listening to what y'all just said about um Well the guy cigardies. Hello.

SPEAKER_14

How you doing?

SPEAKER_05

Um, listening to the you, I think it's very important as well. Like that would probably stop a lot of, you know, our kids or whatever going into the jail system or choosing the streets. Because normally they're looking for love and connection and everything, you know, from their parents or their family at home, but they're not getting it. So that makes them go into the street. That makes them, you know, just go down the room path, end up in jail again. Um, like as for me, I have kids, I have twins, they nine and my daughter is seven. I constantly I always call them little people just to give me that reminder of this is a little person, like he has feelings, she has feelings, they have emotions, I gotta be here, I gotta be in tune, I gotta pay attention. You know what I mean? So I love that y'all said that. You know? The parents gotta step up, especially the father. And these little girls.

SPEAKER_15

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_05

For sure, they need a parent, you know, both for dad for sure. They need discipline. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_08

So they know your doors are supposed to be open for him. Yeah, absolutely. We learn like the wrong shit, and we be teaching our kids the wrong shit because we don't never listen to them. You get what I'm saying? Like, if you listen to your kid, he's gonna tell you and show you exactly what he wanna be. Or she's gonna let you know exactly what she wanna do or wanna be. And she won't let you know, or he's gonna let you know exactly what you teaching him. Because that's what they're gonna go for being. If you're teaching your son that's what you do, right? Learn math and shit like that, he probably gonna come home one day, daddy. I wanna be a doctor, I wanna be a lawyer, I wanna be something like that. But you smoking weed around your kid all day, you cursing, you listening around. Your son gonna wanna be a fucking gangster, and your daughter gonna wanna be a sock. This is just like she listening to Cardi B, Megan Estallion all day. This is what y'all doing. These bitches out here shaking their ass and selling coochie all day. That's all they do is sell sex. And then your daughter 13, and she outside running around with these tights on and acting all fast, and you're trying to wonder why, but you let her listen to these bitches all day. This is what you're teaching her, is okay.

SPEAKER_10

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_08

What the fuck? My son, if my son decides to be 13, 14, he runs around, he wants to sell drugs and tow the gun, and this is what I'm doing. Should I be mad at him? Or should I be like, damn, I maybe need to teach him how to do this shit because I didn't teach him not to not do this shit.

SPEAKER_15

Right.

SPEAKER_08

So maybe I should show him the best way to do it because now this is what he wants to do, because that's what he saw his daddy doing his whole life.

SPEAKER_11

Yeah, thank you for calling in, dog. Yes, you do. And I'm glad that you that you're a parent that's calling in and and and agreed with that fact. Yeah, us as parents, we have to listen. You know, because we we be older and we think we know it all, but really we older, so we've been through them more than they been through.

SPEAKER_08

But that baby about to teach you some of the most valuable shit you ever learned. Yeah, if you listen.

SPEAKER_05

My kids taught me.

SPEAKER_08

You know what my dad literally, right? Because I'm like a real nigga, bro. Like me and my baby mom went to domestics like two weeks ago. I was tripping, bro. I kicked the back door, I broke the window all that. We was like on some real like toxic shit, right? I talked to my son like two days ago. He said, Daddy, why you break everything? Why you were that mad? Bro, I'm looking at this nigga like now. I gotta explain to him why I was that mad, and I gotta do it the right way so he could know that he don't need to act like that. You get what I'm saying? And this is like a valuable lesson. If I would have tried to cut my son off or do it, I would have never heard this question. I would have never had to re-evaluate myself. Fuck everything else. I had to re-evaluate myself in that moment. What the fuck made me do that? That meant daddy was loving somebody more than he was loving himself, and he let his emotions get the best of him, not being a man that is a man, but being a man that was acting like he was a boy still. And I don't ever want you to think it's okay to lose your temper like that and act like that. It's not you know he said, okay, daddy. I said, You let me say yes, right. And I think he's gonna listen as long as I keep reassuring him things and stop doing nut ass shit like that, breaking doors and breaking windows. So it'd be like motherfuckers just gotta take accountability for the action and be like realistic.

SPEAKER_11

And that's just it.

SPEAKER_08

All day to you, like, no, bro, I ain't good at no, I ain't no, I did that shit. I did that shit. And ask me if I did, I'm gonna tell you I did that shit. Ain't nobody gonna change my mind. Bitch, I'm a gangster. I tell you that all the time. Yes, I did it. And I might have been wrong for doing it, but that ain't not gonna make me tell you that I did do it. Yeah, I did that shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Like, listen, no, bro. We'll all right.

SPEAKER_11

Accountability. Let me let Dark Skin Beauty hang up. Dark skin beauty, thank you for the call. Appreciate it. Yeah, thank you for the call. You stay safe, man. We love the support. Thank you, family.

SPEAKER_08

Bro, this is no lie, bro. No lie, bro. Right? I'm on an avenue the other day, right? This old head supposed to be like this big bully nigga on the head or whoever he is, right? Say something to me, bro. I don't I don't care him fully, but like the way it came off, and like you could feel like the shit was like some negative shit, bro. You get what I'm saying? And I'm not even bro, stay away from me, I'm not even this nigga get up and decide to follow me. It's like the block is like, make it make this a whole block. You feel what I'm saying? Rainbow right here. The fucking trolley right here. This nigga follow me from right here all the way to the trolley side, right? I tell O like, yo, get your man, bro. He don't know who I am and he playing with me, bro. And I'm not on it, bro. Like, I'm not on that. It's me like trying to bowl out humbly, like like like all right, bro, like this don't gotta be. I walk in the store, the nigga walk right behind me, like, yeah, no, bro, like what I was trying to tell you is. I said, bro, honestly, I don't like how you came off, so I don't give a fuck what you trying to tell me, bro. I don't want to talk. Can you get away from me, please? Nigga, bend down, start tying the sneaker, bro. What are you doing that for? Like you don't know who I am. You don't know who I am, but like, why are you doing that? Like you know who I am? Like you just that comfortable with doing something like that. Like, start acting like damn, bro, what you tying your sneaker for? You know what I'm saying? I can tie my fucking sneaker to you, right? I don't even matter what you tie your sneaker. And we go outside and I smack the shit out of this nigga, right? And now everybody out there looking at me like you acting like that, right? But y'all just didn't see this nigga follow me from here all the way to there. And I asked y'all like multiple times to get the nigga. It's like a motherfucker wanna see a show, bro. So you gotta remove yourself from people like that because they would have let me trick myself out of my side. And they would have been okay with that shit. They would've corny as shit, bro. You feel what I'm saying? And that would have been on me though, because I wasn't controlling my now. I was I'm not gonna say I didn't do nothing. Cause like I told you, bro, the nigga followed me for like a block and a half. Like if this was back then, he wouldn't even have gotten through the block. He would have said when he was sad, I turned around, I would probably punch him in his mouth right there. You know what I'm saying? So it's growth in that, but in that you still also see that it's still more growth to be had too. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like I'm not fully where I need to be, I'm going where I want to go. But don't mean I'm there yet. Like everybody still got laws, they make bad decisions. I'm not telling nobody that's listening or watching to be perfect. I just believe that like you should know you can do it. If you want to do it, you're gonna get it done. Rome wasn't built in a day. You know what's crazy, right? They'll tell you, right? Because me and my mom had this conversation. We had this conversation often. Be like, people be stuck in their ways, bro. Right? And they'll tell you, you can't teach an old dog new tricks. But that's a lie, right? Because there's people that go get pipples and shit from the shelter that be three years old and shit like that, and they train them dogs, right? It just takes them a little longer. Why? Because they stuck in a ways already. Fuck you, just want me to break a habit that I've been doing my whole life. Now I'm trying to break it, but it's gonna take me some time. It's okay if it takes you some time, just keep working on it. Yeah, just keep working on it. And mean it though, and mean it. Like, you can't like make a bad decision or make a bad mistake and then be like, damn, I'ma fix it. And then the next day make that same bad decision, bad mistake. Like, you get what I'm saying? It's not now I'm not saying you can't make this mistake and learn from that mistake, and then two weeks later make another mistake. No, like life is about mistakes, like life is about sins, right? You know why? Because, like, if like you believe in Allah, like I believe in Allah, then you know that Allah is the most merciful, and what does he love the most? To be asked for forgiveness. Right?

SPEAKER_15

Yep.

SPEAKER_08

So it's like, bro, it's okay to mess up, bro. Just know you're trying to get right and really mean you're trying to get right. And everything should turn out right for you in the end.

SPEAKER_11

I hope everybody that's tuned into this live today, man, seen the authentic the authenticness of it, the real love it, man. This brother came up here, man, it's shared, you know, a trying time with him, man. A time that, you know, probably altered him and changed his course of direction in life. It made him realize a whole lot of things like jail did for me, like jail did for my cousin, man. And like jail did for a lot of you people out there, you know, and for the people that ain't never been, man. Please take heed, man. Please, man. All this stuff that's going on, man, that we talking about, man. This is I don't want to scare you. I want you to know. I don't want you to be scared. You know, when you scared them, yeah. I want you to know, be aware. So, you know, you still got that. I'ma do it. You still got that yes or no. You still could go ahead and do it now. Go ahead by all means, because it ain't me. I ain't shit. I'm I'm gonna take my ass home tonight. Don't tell nobody though when you get that 2040.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, gonna be no fucking wreck.

SPEAKER_11

Yeah, that come hold up. That come with it too, man. Come with it, bro. Um, where they where they can find you at again? Let everybody know where they can find you at.

SPEAKER_08

Man, you can find me on Instagram at Darty Raw, Darty with three Ys, D-A-R-D-E-Y-Y-Y, Raw. And you can find me on YouTube at Darty Raw too, you know what I mean? Everything Darty Raw for real, though.

SPEAKER_11

Man, anything you want to say before we slide out of here?

SPEAKER_08

No, man, I appreciate you. But man, y'all gonna let me get y'all some bars? Y'all don't let nobody know part of it.

SPEAKER_11

Yeah, no, we don't, yeah. You know, I'm not saying we knocked the music, but you know, we we try to stay away from it upon this joint, man. That's fair. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm not saying there's nothing wrong with it, or that you know, to each his own. We just you know, we stand uh down from it.

SPEAKER_10

But uh definitely gonna support you though.

SPEAKER_11

Yeah, I already definitely do that. Y'all always show you the two for that, but uh man, we out of here, man. Stay free, man. James the flame, man. Please, man.

SPEAKER_08

They suck a free man.

SPEAKER_11

A proof of life, please. But until you mean to.