GB SLIM: TALES FROM THE JAILS LIVE!!!

GB SLIM joined hosts Braheem Jackson and Sdot to speak about his experience serving hard time. GB SLIM told his amazing story of being counted out by the system that was designed to destroy many young African American men. 

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SPEAKER_05 7:36

So if you don't know the jails, man, we'll see.

SPEAKER_12 9:50

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SPEAKER_09 10:19

Go ahead, man. Mr. GB Slim, man. Go slim. Been home for a little minute. I've been home for like seven months. I'm saying so.

SPEAKER_12 10:28

You uh GB Slim, GB Slim. What do you what is it that you know are you? I want to let you go ahead and tell your story. I mean, where you from? I'm from South Philly, South Philly. You shocked me with that. Yeah, I thought he was from down north.

SPEAKER_09 10:42

Yeah, I like that. I like it.

SPEAKER_12 10:43

I ain't gonna lie, I thought you was down north from down north the whole time.

SPEAKER_09 10:46

Yeah, I like to play up Uptown South Philly a little. You know, right now, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_12 10:52

Right, yeah. I've got a couple of my guys from down the peak, man. A couple good men, man, that I know, man, that personally that did a lot of time with me, man. Um, what's up, man? Let the let the um let the people know what it was, man, that you, you know, I want to, you know, you could leave out what you want to leave out. You could, you know, bring up what you want to bring up, because you know, I'm at the I'm under the influence that you did some time, and you know, I watch a lot of your content. You talk about a lot of things, man. Yeah. I want you to let the people know, you know, what led you to jail, man, and what age you was, what led you to jail, man, and what it was like for you.

SPEAKER_09 11:21

I mean, when I was all right, so a lot of people familiar with me from design and clothes, I used to make sneakers.

SPEAKER_11 11:28

Right.

SPEAKER_09 11:28

No, no, yeah, I used to I still do. I custom design sneakers, but it was in 2020, it was booming. Like I was doing pretty well, and a lot of people didn't know, like on the side, I was in the streets, but I'm definitely not a person who just be like in the mix too much, you know what I'm saying? I be falling back doing what I'm doing. And long story short, I got into an altercation with somebody, and I ended up shooting a dude. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_12 11:52

How old were you when this happened? I was 24, 24 years old. So all right, so you was a little older, you wasn't young. I mean, like that 24 is young, but 20 because you know these dudes out here now 16, 17 firing niggas' ass up out here.

SPEAKER_09 12:08

Like for us, like you know what I'm saying, like being 20 for 21, 24, and all that, we still was in the mix, yeah. Still was young boys doing the yeah, definitely, definitely. So it was like, but um, I got into altercation, I ended up shooting a guy, and then like I told you before, you know, a lot of people don't understand when you in that county is different. The county runs different than as if you was to get locked up in Philly. You see what I'm saying? So in the county, they charged me with a murder charge off the rip. Yeah, you see what I'm saying? I was in Delaware County, so I was in George W Hill, yeah, yeah. But um, so this shit crazy, y'all.

SPEAKER_08 12:45

Like with them chester balls and all that. I think you was in a couple tussles with them. Let's talk about it, Slim.

SPEAKER_11 12:51

Bro, listen, like, I don't be trying. They know my body, bro. They know my body.

SPEAKER_09 13:00

Like, I I definitely wasn't to be played with in that joint, and I'm definitely gonna do you in there, but I was beefing with a lot of Chester niggas. It's to the point I don't need to go to Chester, bro. I don't give a fuck. I mean a bitch down there, nothing. I ain't even going down there, you know what I'm saying? But long story short, this shit crazy though. When I got locked up, y'all ain't gonna believe this shit, bro. I got locked up and all right, I was in Philly, right? So I got caught up, or whatever the case may be. I get booked. When I get booked, they take me to Philly. So you know if you got a charge in the county and you get locked up in Philly, they gonna you know take you to Philly and then they gonna drive you to the county. Well, what happened was I tried to run out the district. So I'm saying, so yeah, this shit crazy. It was uh what was that? Wolf Street. What's that? The John uh like Mary Point Breeze up to Philly, yeah. So I try to run out the John. So they uh tackled me all to the floor and all this crazy shit. You know what I'm saying? I was uncuffed, they was trying to fingerprint me.

SPEAKER_08 14:02

Oh, you try to get the fucking yeah.

SPEAKER_09 14:04

So the cop standing right there at the door, whatever the case may be, when they was trying to fingerprint me. As soon as they did like went to go do my pinky finger, I take off. Boom. I run past the cop. You see what I'm saying? And I kept moving. I'm all ass and this big ass cop was at the door. You know, he ain't having that, he clothes lined me. They take me to the floor, take my pants off. Shit was embarrassing. Strip search me, all types of shit. And they put me back in the cell with just my drawers, my shirt was ripped because the cop was grabbing me, trying to stop me from running out. And they just put me in there with the ripped shirt, the drawers, and no shoes I had on Air Forces and no socks.

SPEAKER_08 14:41

And that district cell be cool.

SPEAKER_09 14:43

It was cool. Get in there. I'm I'm in there trying to make pillows with fucking sandwiches. I'm in that draw trying to ramp up with tissue, anything that and they had me in that draw, you know, for a minute. Because all right, so now that I get locked up in Philly, I got Philly charges now, attempt to escape. Right, you see what I'm saying? Let me put my headphones on. Yeah, I got I got Philly charges now, attempt to escape. So now this shit, y'all still ain't gonna believe it. Now I got the charges to prove this shit. I don't do no cabbing. You feel me? This next part crazy art. Hey, so now I'm done all the other shit in Philly. You feel what I'm saying? So now they're taking me to uh CFCF because now I got these charges. See what I'm saying? They put me in a van. When I'm in the van, I noticed that the fucking gate on the van was like pulled back as if somebody was like tampering with it. Mind you, I got on shackles, cuffs, draws, and a ripped shirt. Fuck trying, they got away. So you know what I'm saying? I tell the boy that's in the van, I'm like, yo, uh move over, let me get over there to the window. You feel me? So I scoot over. I'm at the window, I'm with it, I'm pulling it, but it's making a sound of shit. Like, crank, crank, you know what I'm saying? So, as I you know, once we get the point breeze, we didn't really get that far. The see the uh the sheriffs, they like, what y'all doing back there? We're like, Nothing, everything cool. You feel what I'm saying? It like turn the music up. The inmates trying to help me get away. You feel me? When I pull the gate open enough to see that I can get out, because you know, on the other side of the gate, it's a window that swing like this, but the latch is off. This shit jinky, and I slide out the window feet first and start taking off with the shaggles and the cuffs on, bro. This is crazy. Mind you, they charging me with murder. So in my mind, I'm like, I got to get the phone, I gotta get the away. There's no way in the world I'm gonna let you lock me up for murder. I've never been locked up a day in my life before this. I've been arrested, but I've never been to jail. I never did more than a day in a whole and so you feel me. I take off, I'm running. This sergeant, I'm at the uh sheriff, he's trying to like chase me, but I don't know. I think the other boy Twitter noni, they fat as shit. They ain't even chasing me, and there's a whole line of cars behind them. You feel what I'm saying? So they can't back up enough. I'm out. I'm like this drawers, no sock, no shoes on, ripped shirt type shit. Long story short, I see these people. So in my crazy mind at the time, I'm thinking these people gonna help me. I'm like, they gonna help me get away, they're gonna put me in their car. You feel what I'm saying? Man, they was like, No, bro, you're not coming in our crib. She, like, it's an abandoned house right there. You could walk, you could go through this alleyway, and it's a house. But I'm thinking she's talking about her house. I'm still not comprehending. But when I finally walk through all this trash, it's stacks and stacks of trash. I'm climbing up the trash and I go to the abandoned crib, I slip through the uh gate, and then it turned out that it's not a abandoned crib, it's a house that's getting fixed up. So you know that when you fixing up a crib on the bottom part, like what they like doing the basement, is a hole, you feel me? Because they ain't put the the little doors for the for the basement. I jump down there, it's a bunch of fucking water down there. Mind you, my legs is tight as shit, bro. I'm running and moving. This shit, like really gripping my shit. You feel what I'm saying? So I go to the basement. Boy, you in there, boy. Bro, I was wow a shit, bro. I finally uh get up the steps and all that. I'm looking for shit, trying to get the shackles and cuffs and all that shit off. Long story short, I go all the way up to the third floor. So I'm saying, and I see this girl that I went to school, but I'm in South Philly, so I'm saying, so I know the people that's around there. When I see the girl, I'm trying to yell to her, but I'm all the way on the third floor. They got me on the citizens app and all this shit, like the man on the roof and all types of crazy shit. So I yell to the girl.

SPEAKER_12 18:51

I'm like, uh, I'm like, yo, like uh in a harsh manner. I'm talking about it. Ain't no other harsh manner than that. But go ahead, man. I'm loving this for the people out there that ain't you know, understanding this and knowing this to be a truth, you done lost your mind. This is what this man experienced, yo.

SPEAKER_09 19:09

The fucking hole, right? I don't know about curse up here, but yeah, the hole is so small. Listen, I went to the zoo yesterday, and the animals that's in the zoo got a bigger cell than I was in.

SPEAKER_12 19:25

They can hear you, they couldn't have heard you say that the animals that was in the zoo, bro.

SPEAKER_09 19:29

I'm looking at the alligator, I'm looking at the monkeys. They got a room, they got room in the room.

SPEAKER_12 19:35

They got a room in there, yeah. I'm like, damn, he got a pool. Yeah, yeah. I'm like, it's crazy if you when you put it in quick. What you really think about that that's but it's real. I just was we was at the aquarium in in in uh wherever we was at, we was somewhere somewhere it was in the aquarium, and you see the lion with a pool and anything.

SPEAKER_09 19:57

Yo, the lion, he got it made. But it's like I mean, I don't really like going to the zoo because at the end of like on another note, because I don't like that captivity shit. I'm saying, but at the end of the day, you feel me? I was looking at it like, damn, like they got they got it better than how we had it. I'm in the little ass cell, and me not used to being locked up or captive like that. Like, I'm the type person I don't even like being in a car too long, yeah. Driving around type shit. I like to pop out, you feel me? I like getting on a bus and I got a car.

SPEAKER_12 20:30

What's your first night like was down there? Your first night, you remember that?

SPEAKER_09 20:33

It was miserable, it was miserable. You had a seller. So when obviously when I'm getting pro well, y'all, they don't know, you feel me? I'm getting processed. So because of my charges, I wasn't like sleeping on the floor and uh waiting to get they sent me right up, you feel me? And they put me in, they put me in a room by myself, feel me, because I'm like high risk, you feel me? And obviously, it's a murder charge. So when you I don't know if people like if they still do it like this, but in CFCF, when you got a murder charge, they separate you from everybody, bro. Like when you first come in. Long story short, I'm in a uh I don't even remember what they call it, but it's a 30-day drone. They leave you in the cell by yourself, you don't have no cellar, you don't have nobody to talk to. Anybody that do come in there, they only in there for like a day or two because of whatever they got going on, and they getting them right out because they're not supposed to be in there with you. But that shit was miserable. It was a bad joint. Then they put me in. Now I go to now. I'm in now. I'm in a part where like you on a block type shit, but I'm still in the hole. I did a year in the hole because of that shit. 11 months straight, bro. See what I'm saying? So I'm in the hole and it's smaller. So my first day in there, I'm like, damn, like I'm just peeping scene. You feel me? First thing I'm thinking, like, anybody try me, I'm on it. You feel me? Because we in jail. Second thing, I'm thinking, like, why the fuck everybody coming out with shackles and cuffs on and chains around eight waists? So I'm thinking, so I asked the nigga. Get in there, you know, in jail, you talking to people is awkward in there. Like, like, like I actually not from there where they're from. Even if you is, bro, that shit is diabolical. Like, I I advise anybody do not go to jail because that shit is crazy. You feel what I'm saying? But long story short, um I'm like, yo, like I I talked to the boy, I call the boy to the cell. I'm like, yo, uh everybody gotta come out like that. Shack was in custody, he like his face like this at my window. And then he like, yeah. I'm like, yo, what the fuck? Y'all talking about murder, y'all talking about being a strong, ain't no fucking way. You know what I'm saying? Ain't no way. So long story short, I just did days and days and days. I ended up getting a celly, and it was like slowly but surely I quote, but like, I ain't gonna lie, like I'ma I'ma be vulnerable because I don't really tell people this shit. But I was going through mental health issues because of that, because I never was incarcerated before in my life.

SPEAKER_12 23:03

See, a lot of people don't know that part. Not to hold that thought. A lot of people don't know that certain situations you go through in jail, especially that whole you coming straight into jail.

SPEAKER_08 23:11

23 and 1.

SPEAKER_12 23:12

Yo, like this is was this the first time you ever been to jail? Hold up. It was COVID.

SPEAKER_08 23:17

So you ain't coming out like that.

SPEAKER_09 23:18

Fuck no, you're not coming out. Yeah. So hold up, what? No, you're not coming out.

SPEAKER_12 23:22

Was this your first time in jail?

SPEAKER_09 23:24

First time ever in jail, you're not coming out. You in there every single day, and they might let you out after three days for a 20-minute phone call or a shower. And I'm not a dirty nigga.

SPEAKER_08 23:36

The CEO stopped coming to work.

SPEAKER_09 23:38

Nobody was coming. That shit was dead. They might let you out for a shower or a phone call. You trying to get some food from somebody, you know, people be having, they be administrated, they're allowed to eat food, shit like that. But yeah, yeah. That's how that shit was. It was miserable.

SPEAKER_12 23:52

But um, yeah. So you said how long did you sit down and roll for? How long did you sit in the road? 11 months?

SPEAKER_09 23:59

I was 11 months in there.

SPEAKER_12 24:00

So they let you out after that, they let you go to the public.

SPEAKER_09 24:02

I was supposed to not be able to go to leave out at all.

SPEAKER_12 24:05

Oh, they wanted to keep you down there for the corporation.

SPEAKER_09 24:12

They transferred me. So I got lucky. Okay. But I say if I was fighting my case, they would have kept me in the hole the whole time. If you had to stay there. If I had to stay in Philly. So once I took the I had to take a deal. Right. Because it's like, all right, these escape charges, mind you, the crazy part is I beat the escape that was on camera to attempt to escape when I tried to run out the district. But I but I took a deal for the one where I jumped out the van. Okay. You feel what I'm saying? How much time did they give you for that one? I ended up getting time served, 11 months. Okay, all right, cool. So now they transfer me to the county, and then now I don't gotta be in a hole because it's a separate.

SPEAKER_12 24:42

Yeah, you in a you in a whole nother jail, though.

SPEAKER_09 24:44

I'm in a whole nother jail. Yeah, you cool. You escaped that one. That shit was like, I ain't gonna lie, that shit was like heaven. A breath of it was like a a breath of fresh air. Bro, I'm in the hole. And then not to mention the type of person like me at 24, not the person that you see now. I was a firecracker, I'm on that with everybody. So I get out the whole, I'm back in the hole. You feel me? So it's not like I'm out the hole and I'm just all right, yeah, I'm out the hole. I'm getting into it with niggas, I'm fighting people, I'm robbing people. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_12 25:13

Let me let me let me ask you a question. Like, do you uh do you still have you know, like I said, you can answer what you want, leave, you know, or leave out what you want. Uh do you still have your, you know, or do you have both parents or mom or dad? Yeah, you have both parents in the upbringing?

SPEAKER_09 25:27

The the mom, my mom, uh, rest in peace in my mind. She just recently died. Like, so both of our moms just passed. That's crazy. And they sisters. That's crazy. That's listen, man. May they rest in peace. I mean, I um I came home for not even four months. As soon as I came home, my mom died. I just did five years, and that jail, like jail detached you from people. So it was like it was hard to feel a lot of shit until like later. You feel me? So I come home like my daughter, nine now. Feel me? My daughter was four. She don't even remember her pop. And then all that, you know what I'm saying? It was like, it's a lot that come with that shit, like just going to jail. Period. That shit fuck your mind up. And I was like I said, I was going through mental health issues even when I was in the hole. I'm on meds. It got me on all types of shit.

SPEAKER_12 26:17

What you taking at the time?

SPEAKER_09 26:19

I don't even remember the meds because a lot of times I wouldn't take that shit.

SPEAKER_12 26:22

Okay.

SPEAKER_09 26:22

You feel what I'm saying? But I was going through it. I would take it.

SPEAKER_12 26:25

I was taking my man's shit. My man was going over there taking psych meds one time, right? Now they cut you off. And they was getting ham dog, cinequine, deprive.

SPEAKER_09 26:33

Sinequine.

SPEAKER_12 26:34

I remember that. We'd put that in the hot. And I'm not growing this, but this is what's going on in there. This is how I was ducking reality. I would drink that and get woozy. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Or the guys that have one, they call it a little bomb. Like, this is what dudes is in there doing to duck the reality to the time that they're getting. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, stay out of here, man. So you in there, so you you you on the medication, though. You wouldn't seen the doctor to get it.

SPEAKER_09 26:55

Yeah, I'm on it. I'm yeah, schizophrenic in that bitch. Yeah. Like I'm really going through it in here. Because I'm I'm having panic attacks. Right. To the point where my heart is feeling crazy because, and it's not because I'm scared.

SPEAKER_12 27:07

Exactly.

SPEAKER_09 27:08

It's because I'm locked in and I can't go nowhere, and it's so small. So it's like I'm in that joint trying to break away again. I'm trying to break out.

SPEAKER_12 27:15

Right.

SPEAKER_09 27:16

I don't give a fuck what the consequences is. I'm not about to be held captive if it's up to me. Right. So it's like. So what you get sentenced to? My sentence ended up being it got dropped down from the murder. It got to a uh attempt. And then I I don't know if like this is actually true, but I heard that attempt wasn't a real charge. I got an aggravated assault. Okay. Feel me? Okay. But the thing is, when I was in um when I got charged with the aggravated assault, I was already three years in. I did three years in the county, bro. Three three whole years waiting to go to trial and all that. Waiting to man, that county, that Delaware County is crazy. Do not catch a county and do not catch a charge in Delaware County. That's a drone. Because they don't play by the rules. It's not no, you putting your paperwork in and they going to see your paperwork. And no, it's not fair in that drone. It's not nothing. They go against all the rules because I guess they so small that they they got the power. You feel what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_08 28:16

Montgomery County, nothing.

SPEAKER_09 28:17

Don't catch no cases down there, and they're gonna roof you. I seen a nigga get 14 years for a leg shot. Shot a nigga in a leg. They gave him 14 years.

SPEAKER_08 28:27

They don't know that.

SPEAKER_12 28:30

Well, that's but you know, they passing out harsher penalties in different little counties and boroughs. So, you know, it all depends on wherever you committing or breaking law at. Be, you know, either leave it alone or stand on what you do. So when you so that sentence, how you feel that sentence? You knew you was gonna lose the case or you thought you had a chance of beating it?

SPEAKER_09 28:47

If I would have lost that case and I would have went to trial, I I y'all wouldn't, I wouldn't be right here right now.

SPEAKER_12 28:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 28:53

Hell no, I took a deal. Right. All right, listen, man. Motherfuckers telling me, no, you know, people on the outside don't understand how it really is in jail. So they tell you, nah, bro, don't take that shit. They don't got nothing on you. My victim wasn't even coming to court. He wrote a statement. But he wasn't coming to court.

SPEAKER_12 29:11

He ain't had to come to court, just write the statement, and we'll take it.

SPEAKER_09 29:15

That statement was enough.

SPEAKER_12 29:16

That's crazy. They will find it. A person will write a statement. He ain't had to show up physically.

SPEAKER_09 29:20

They listen, bro, they wouldn't let me go. I put in a rule six. What is that? The rule six hundred? Hold up. So what they had court without you? No, they it was on a tip like, all right, every time it's time for me to go to trial or for me to go, they kept pushing me back.

SPEAKER_12 29:38

Okay, postponing.

SPEAKER_09 29:41

Even if I'm in a different county, y'all supposed to have me on video court.

SPEAKER_12 29:46

Right.

SPEAKER_09 29:46

They're on a tip like they just gonna keep pushing it. So now I'm I'm in jail three years with no no trial, no nothing. So it's like, all right, yo, my lawyer, module. I didn't even have money for a lawyer. Right. You see what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_12 29:59

I had a PD.

SPEAKER_09 30:00

And then when I did get money for the lawyer, the lawyer fucked me over. Right. You see what I'm saying? So it's like they kept pushing it back, and then the PD came. Mind you, I'm giving them paperwork to put in for me.

SPEAKER_12 30:11

You you doing your case. I'm doing my own case. Like, yo, file this on my behalf. File this, you still not filing it. You letting the people know you go to jail, your lawyer ain't gonna work for you. You be the only one working, and you got an attorney and he ain't working, and you giving him the money, right?

SPEAKER_08 30:25

I had like strong run rapid.

SPEAKER_09 30:27

I had a drone, I had a drone where I'm paying you. You feel what I'm saying? But I ain't got I ain't had that much bread at the time. I was fucking up my money I was making. So when I did go to jail, they said 30, what was it, 3700 for preliminary? They wasn't even doing nothing at preliminary. You feel what I'm saying? And then we ain't talking about the trial tab. Man, I'm looking at 20 grand altogether. I'm asking family members, whatever the case may be. But it's like from the rip, he's fucking me over though. See what I'm saying? So it's like, all right, now I'm telling you, I get a new lawyer, I'm telling him, just put this paperwork in. You don't gotta do nothing. I'm doing all the research. Put this paperwork in. They got 180 days from my understanding to get you to trial. See what I'm saying? Yeah, it's called a speedy trial. Why are you not putting in this paperwork? I done filled it all out. All right, now you don't want to put it in. All right, I'm gonna put it in. Just just uh what you call it? He gotta approve it. Like he gotta, because you know, when you got a lawyer and you know, you you're not representing yourself, you can't put a motion in the city. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. Because you're not representing yourself, yeah. So he the one that gotta just pass it. Like, all right, I'm gonna we we that's what we want to do. They not even doing that. They working with them motherfuckers, bro. They see you sitting there. I'm in the zone. Take this file.

SPEAKER_08 31:40

He's saying for 36 months down the county.

SPEAKER_09 31:44

And a lot of people don't understand, like I said before, the county is way harder than upstate. Upstate, you got way. I got big upstate. I'd have got up that joint, got broil like healthy, no smoking, no nothing. That county, bro. You ain't doing that up there unless you super strong minded.

SPEAKER_12 32:02

So you saying you ain't eating like that or nothing in there? In the county?

SPEAKER_09 32:05

Yeah, I was robbing niggas. I ain't gonna lie. I'm going, I'm gonna I'm I'm gonna eat. And if you was to watch my content, if you see my comments, you know none of my stories cat. Like anything I'm saying. That shit niggas voucher, niggas was in jail with me. I'm sticking you, I'm robbing you, and I was feared in there. Right. But at the end of the day, it wasn't about the food, it was just about the fact that you don't got no weights in there. See what I'm saying? And then you know, like I was eating, you feel me, but I had money too. My folks had bread, but it was like it's like basically this the cell, and this the block, you feel me? You want to sell, then you got the block. That's it. You can't leave off that block and go to any other block. No, that's it. That's it. Yeah, that's all it is. Upstate, you could go wherever you want. You could go over here, go to the workout room, you can join a CrossFit class. It's like they keep you more busy. You can go to the yard, there's weights in the yard, you can run a track. I did three years confined.

SPEAKER_08 32:57

What was your main job? It was upstate.

SPEAKER_09 33:00

All right, so I my first 11 months, they were switching me around to um from CFCF. I went to DC. I went to RCF. They started to put the dudes in RCF as well. You feel what I'm saying? But um DC is treacherous.

SPEAKER_08 33:22

I did I did like two months in the whole DC, no ventilation. I was high in the middle of the summer of 2021.

SPEAKER_09 33:28

Oh, and you know, bro, DC is serious. You talking about the smallest cell you can think about.

SPEAKER_08 33:35

I was on B blind.

SPEAKER_09 33:36

Your toilet right next to your bed. Your toilet is next to your bed. When your cell he's shit and his his knees touching your bunk. It's mice running around, and it's big-ass cockarooches this big, flying around, and it's like it's like a nightmare in there because it's a bunch of writing and shit all over the walls. The inside of your sink is a little hole for the water to squirt out. That shit is blue and purple, like it's the it don't even come out.

SPEAKER_08 33:59

That shit come on.

SPEAKER_09 34:00

And you gotta drink that. They don't give you no bottles of water in that joint. That shit's serious, like that shit was hell, bro. I did two months of of my time in that joint, and then I ended up going back again for another month. You see what I'm saying? So it was like, and this is all around mixed up with the 11 months because they they were switching us around, but um, yeah, yeah. That's how I was in DC.

SPEAKER_08 34:22

DC practice my hardest time ever being in jail all the time I did, bro.

SPEAKER_09 34:25

Ever.

SPEAKER_12 34:26

If you could go back to jail, so how old how old were you when you first went to jail? I was 24. Oh, you're 24 when you first went to jail. Did you have to go to the house? Yeah, that's when I got locked up, huh? Did you have a girlfriend at the time? Yeah. Let's talk about that. How that, how that keep it real.

SPEAKER_09 34:41

My shorties was holding me down. Yeah, yeah. I'm not gonna lie, you feel what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_12 34:46

I respect that. I respect that. Yeah, my shout out to them too, man. Whoever they is, shout out because I've I'll stand on their ass face.

SPEAKER_09 34:52

Yeah, I can't cap and say, like, they now I ain't gonna lie, I was dealing with a shorty, she ended up leaving and coming back.

SPEAKER_12 35:00

Ah, that's respectable.

SPEAKER_09 35:02

But she still would listen, she was respectable. She was holding me down. My baby mom, she was really holding me down, like heavy. I'm talking about she's heavy on the paperwork. She doing she the reason why I'm really out of jail. Yeah, because it's another crazy ass junk. When I went to jail and I was upstate, imagine a day you supposed to go home, they come to you and tell you that you're not going home.

SPEAKER_12 35:23

Hold on, hold on, hold on. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Because I think I might have misheard you. You did you just tell me that a day that they come to you? I'm hot. Yeah, yeah. Did you did you did you did you just tell me just now, a day that these people come to you and say you're going home today, they've been informed you of that, and they'll never let you know.

SPEAKER_09 35:42

On my paperwork and say I'm going home. And the day that I'm supposed to go home, this is what happened. I'm sitting here wondering why. I'm sitting here wondering why they didn't pack me up. They not even saying nothing to me. They ain't fuck coming to you and telling me. So but you woke up early in the morning, like I'm ready to go. You can so you like it five years.

SPEAKER_12 36:03

So do you got your personal property together in front of the bag?

SPEAKER_09 36:06

To go. Y'all can keep all that shit. Only thing I got is my paperwork. I rap, I just got raps. So you up at the door waiting for the door to open. No, I'm on the block. It's the same shit. All right, so they let y'all out already. But when I started to talk to other people, you know, the jails talk, right? They like, why they ain't packed you up yet? For what I'm saying. So I'm like, oh then, I'm supposed to be out what tomorrow? Why the fuck they ain't packed me up yet? I'm still being optimistic about the situation. I go to the unit manager and I'm like, yo, why didn't they pack me up yet? He like, oh, um, so now I'm antsy, like, whoa. One thing about me, I'm good at body language. Like, why the fuck is he saying, oh feel me? And then now he's holding me off, though. So you got five years at this time. I'm in five years. You ready to go? I'm trying to slide. I done told my family, we done got the rental. So they up there.

SPEAKER_12 36:55

We ready to go. Oh, you really at the gate, ready to get out of there. No, no, I'm talking about when I say at the gate, meaning yeah, I know. This is the day you ready to go. Um no, this is the day before. All right, this is the day before. Okay, and we we getting we allocated everything. Come on, man.

SPEAKER_09 37:10

Like, that shit was just as crazy. That shit was back up the day before. Yeah, you're supposed to pack up the day before. So you want to know why you ain't packed out yet? He's talking about, yeah, uh, long story short, um, you ain't going home basically. They you got a detainer dropped on you. I'm like, bro, I'm ready, and not my job. I'm at that point now where I'm not even crashing out no more. All that shit was when I was in the county and all that. Once you go upstate, you gotta chill out because you're not getting away with nothing. Everything is on camera, and niggas is telling, and yeah, catch a new charge up there, Joe. And when you go to see parole, they'd not parole you for you rumbling and all that. So they ain't playing with you. I'm not playing with you. I chilled for two years. So you knock something out when he's telling you, bro. I got in I got in 17 fights, bro, in three years.

SPEAKER_12 37:57

17 fights in three years, or in the county, in the county, in the county, see what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_09 38:03

17 rumbles. Oh, you just was in there going crazy. I was bucking, bro. I was wilding. Everybody, this shit true. Anybody, I guarantee you, when you post this shit, it's gonna be niggas that's gonna comment, gonna tell you I was not to be played with. Yeah, and I lost one rumble the whole time I was there.

SPEAKER_12 38:18

You still know who he is?

SPEAKER_09 38:19

Nigga, nigga got out on you.

SPEAKER_12 38:20

Ain't gonna never forget that nigga. Keep it real, keep it real.

SPEAKER_09 38:23

Do you know his name right now? Do you know that nigga? But I ain't gonna yeah, that's why I don't say niggas' names when I'm talking my stories. I don't because this shit is real and we not far from each other. Right what I'm saying? I'm out the way though, but we not far. You feel me? Right. So, you know, but yeah, I I I was fighting a lot, and the crazy thing about it is that hold on, hold on.

SPEAKER_12 38:43

Before you get in there, I want you to get back to hold on, I won't because we're good all over the place. I want you to get back to this people, this this man telling you, like, yeah, that ain't happening.

SPEAKER_09 38:52

So I I asked him, I'm like, uh, I'm like, why I'm not going home? They dropped a detainer on me. It turned out that they added up my time wrong.

SPEAKER_12 39:02

But they wait five years to tell you this. You wait till I'm supposed to go to let me know. Why you ain't let me know this two years ago? To get me prepared.

SPEAKER_09 39:12

How much time did you do after they told you that? More. I did another, they told me I had to do another year. That's a long that's a question defeat, bro. So exactly, it would have been 11 months. Let me tell you why. Remember, I just touched based on you. I told you I did 11 months in Philly, right? So they didn't add that fucking time.

SPEAKER_12 39:31

Oh, so they never count capital. Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_09 39:34

So this is where they fucking up at. So because it's 11 months, we don't even got to be no math musicians right here, but because it was 11 months, once they finally did add the time, I ended up still having to do another month to make it 12 months a year to add up to the five. Exactly. So now I'm doing another 30.

SPEAKER_12 39:50

Another 30 months? They're days. Oh, 30 days. Another 30 days, another 30 days. That's still a long time. Listen, I think I'm supposed to go today. Can you imagine that? That out you wake up you the day before, you like, damn, they ain't called me to pack my bags. I go tomorrow.

SPEAKER_09 40:06

I'm telling my daughter. That was the and I that and and not even a touch based on music, but that's why I made this song recently. It's called I Ain't Scared of Hell. Yeah, you see what I'm saying? But and it's about my daughter because I told my daughter I was coming home, right? You see what I'm saying? And the the song, like, Why You Ain't Home Yet? I thought you said you coming soon. Right. That's what I told her. I'm out, we out. And she like, then that I thought you said you was coming home. I told them to get the rentals, yeah. They ready to get me. We had to get the money back from the rentals and all that.

SPEAKER_12 40:39

Yeah, yeah, that's a bad joint, man. I hope everybody is paying attention, man. You think you got a date one second, these people will turn around and play a game with you? It's easy to get it. Fuck, no nothing, bro.

SPEAKER_09 40:51

I got about a year in. Oh, so you got a year of good clear conduct. Clear conduct, no nothing. I'm thinking, like, and from my paperwork, I'm thinking y'all would appreciate that. Yeah, you feel what I'm saying? Y'all still ain't parole me. So now I'm up here. I'm mind you. This is why I said back to the song. Exactly. Why you ain't home yet? I thought you I told her I was coming home for parole. Cause I'm sure I'm leaving. Why would they not leave? I'm out, baby. It's time to go. Exactly. And then they don't parole me. Now I gotta get back on the phone and tell my daughter I'm not coming home till this time. Now it's to the point motherfuckers think I'm lying because they know the murder charge. Motherfuckers think I'm never coming home. You see what I'm saying? Yeah. So being as though they know the murder charge and all that, some people like, man, that nigga lying, man. They didn't roof team and he keep saying he coming home, nigga, delusional. Exactly. You feel me? So it was in a lot of people. I had people stop talking to me. I ain't like I said before, I don't know. I wasn't really too good to females, but let me tell y'all something, right? That same female you dogging out, that you doing dirty, that you treating like shit, she gonna be the one there for you, nigga.

SPEAKER_08 41:54

She's gonna treat you better than your homes.

SPEAKER_09 41:56

Why you say that though? Why you say that? You you you I don't know. Females more forgiving. Yeah, you see what I'm saying? I wasn't no saint, and that's why I try to treat women with more care. I'm not saying I'm perfect, right? You see what I'm saying? But I I listen, a lot of people say they take they what they call it, M my niggas over women. I don't even gonna say, you know what I mean? My niggas over no nigga, it's never that.

SPEAKER_08 42:22

Yeah, Prince, I'm gonna talk to that lady when I'm gonna talk to y'all boys. They say, Yeah, call your girl, call black, I'll call my girl.

SPEAKER_09 42:28

I'm talking about out here. I'm talking about out here. Oh yeah, I'm taking my girl. I'm taking my female friend here. Oh yeah, I'm taking my girl, I'm taking my female friend over over over all these niggas. Yeah, because at the end of the day, I don't know, these niggas listen, bro. These niggas don't be rock. Listen now. Uh hold on, don't get it wrong. My man Za. I got a lot of people that are really my man Mir. It's people that been rocking. My man Mir held me down. He sent me money. You feel me? My man Fast Life, he helped me in the Feds right now. He held me down. But 90% of these niggas that I grew up with as kids ain't sent me a penny. They didn't call me, they didn't try to get in touch with me, and niggas making excuses. You know, my little sister, nigga, we grew up together. You couldn't hit her up and say what's up. You ain't saying what's up and say what's up. I know a nigga from elementary school. I know him from elementary school. We never hung out. We was never cool like that. And that's my dog right now. You wanna know why? Because anytime I caught him, you know, when you're in jail, you desperate. Yeah. I'm calling niggas. I knew from elementary school, but he used to be, I mean absolutely right.

SPEAKER_12 43:36

You know what I'm saying? I was, you know, a little bit more fortunate because you know, the the you know, everybody don't get this, but some do. I had the my men, like I come from, you know, a lot of nothing, but I was blessed with a lot of something. And what I'm meaning by that, I ain't have a family growing up. But I grew up with some men that's extra sturdy. Like we like a brotherhood. Like you'll meet dudes and they'll be like, well. Damn, y'all the same crew that been around together for 25, 30 years. You had your in-house fights and all that shit. Like how you said a few of your guys, but I'll be like, But I understand what you saying. A lot of dudes go to jail, man. And when you in there, like you look, you know, for a helper head. Like you said, you just want to say what's up to a nigga. Nigga ducking that. Oh, he probably gonna want something. You be like, you really see, you see that, man. You see, you had this, you and then how that make you feel, though. Do it make you be like, yeah, I'm you know, because I'm still like, oh, I'm forgiving and all that, but I know in my head, if something was to ever hit the fan, y'all niggas ain't really, you know what I mean. I'm cool.

SPEAKER_09 44:37

I just wrote music.

SPEAKER_12 44:39

Right.

SPEAKER_09 44:39

That's how I express myself. You feel me? I just wrote music and I put my shit in my music. And another thing you want to know what really like would like really crack me up. I'll I'll be home like like I was home for what two, three months. I ain't throwing no shots at nobody, I'm just keeping it real. You know, niggas was calling me about drama, bro. Niggas is calling me about drama, bro. I just came home. Why the fuck is you asking me that?

SPEAKER_12 45:09

I was away from but you love me though. You ain't sent me no money, you ain't calling me, you ain't do nothing.

SPEAKER_08 45:15

Wow, ain't he just away for five years?

SPEAKER_12 45:17

But see, this this is what this is what a lot of these youths ain't hearing. They ain't went to jail yet and seen this side of it. It's another side to this shit. You could be out here, ha ha ha, Kiki, but he goes the other side right here. He talking about drama to be the first nigga to call you up, like, yo, can you believe these niggas did such and such and such? Or whatever the case may be. Bro, I need a gun.

SPEAKER_09 45:45

What the fuck, you need me and you need a gun. Nigga, and and and certain people, certain people, you you know, my brothers and shit like that, like my family, we gonna exclude them. You feel me? Because my brother needs something. I'm gonna give it to him. I'm probably not gonna be involved, so I don't want my brother to think I'm talking about him. But it's actually a nigga I'm talking about that was calling me about drama, bro. Multiple people like yo, bro, uh uh uh, this nigga saying he's gonna do this and I'm just thinking in my mind, like, bro, I did five years in jail.

SPEAKER_08 46:14

Five years. I've been away from my daughter for five years. I live my life. Why got crazy and burned with you? Crazy, man. He ain't a real friend.

SPEAKER_09 46:25

A half a decade in jail.

SPEAKER_12 46:30

A long time, man.

SPEAKER_09 46:31

Come on, bro. I don't even I got out this genre like like I didn't even know direction. I didn't even know how to get nowhere without using a GPS. I'm still like that.

SPEAKER_12 46:42

I'm still like that right now. If I ain't in West Philly right then, I've been out for a couple years. You talk about a year, nigga. I got damn near a nickn out here and I don't know where to go. What about this, Joe? Like, I've been a daze. They we they they boy, they wash my shit up. And when I say my brain is screwed, I just know how to just, you know what, I know right from wrong now at an alarming rate. Yeah, and I know who's there for me, who I'm supposed to be there for. And that's a part of growing up. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? And it's sad that I had to go through this to get to there. You know what I'm saying? And it seemed like you did somewhat too it that jail definitely seemed like it schooled you too. Hell yeah. You know what I'm saying? I think would you say that it taught you something or no?

SPEAKER_09 47:28

Would you say um it's being adult, bro? Just be grown. Right. You know, I work. I'm on me too. Yeah, I got a job. Yeah, do it feel good to have a job? It do feel good. Feel what I'm saying? Especially being a hustler, too. Like, yeah, like you, you, you, you get money. Yeah, and I like to be able to buy what I want. You feel me? But what I mean by being an adult is there's nothing wrong with going in the crib at nine and ten o'clock. Niggas be calling me, or I'll be ready to link up with my homie. You know, my homies be rapping and shit. You feel what I'm saying? So, yo, bro, let's go here, let's go there. Man, one time I was following my homie, bro, ready to go out. Man, I called him right while I was following him and turn. I seen my block right there, I turned and went. Turned off. I'm home, bro. I'm out, I'm tired. Yeah, I gotta wake up at four or five. That's being an adult. I don't, I, I'm just being a man. I'm driving.

SPEAKER_12 48:28

But like you said, the adult, because it's women that do it too.

SPEAKER_09 48:30

Come on, bro. Be an adult, it's bitches twerking on cars. It's females twerking on cars, yeah. You feel what I'm saying? It's lit outside. We up north.

SPEAKER_08 48:40

I'm trying to slide.

SPEAKER_09 48:43

Yeah, I think about my situation I got at my crib. Man, I'm out. I'm not doing that because that's how niggas die. Yeah. Wrong place, wrong time. If I'm at work, you feel me? You know what I'm saying? I'm grinding. If I'm not grinding, I'm in the gym, working on my craft. You know what I'm saying? And if I'm not doing that, I'm in a crib or I'm taking my kids somewhere, or being with my kids is a very less chance of me dying. I had to learn to live the same life that I was living in jail. In jail, I hadn't hung around one person. Free my man Ricky. I hung around him and I worked out every day. I sold ease and I sold food, and that was it. Every day, and that's how I live out here. I don't got time to hang with you no more. I don't got time. I'm definitely not sitting on no block.

SPEAKER_12 49:32

That's that still shocks me when I was. And then I might go and like not if I'm sitting around a bunch of drug dealers, but you know, y'all might go to my man crib, pull up out front of his crib. We kicking them bobo, they got the grill lip or something. But for me to go hang out on the spot that we're as though y'all doing drugs transactions, and and I saw I ride past delis and shit and see, and I don't knock you guys. I'm just, I guess there's levels to it. I guess I'm old. I guess I got real old, but I understand exactly what you're saying, bro. You got you got uh uh would you say that you would be thinking like this in this mindset without you ever helping, without you ever going to be? You don't think so?

SPEAKER_09 50:07

You think you'll have a different mindset right now? First of all, yeah, I would. I'd probably be on drugs. I was on, I was, I was hooked on perks when I was a young boy.

SPEAKER_12 50:16

Right.

SPEAKER_09 50:17

Feel me? That's why I was shooting people. Right. You feel what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_12 50:20

It wasn't a gateway to have you doing some dumbbells.

SPEAKER_09 50:24

But it was, you know, shit was happening before that that was going down. Right.

SPEAKER_07 50:28

Because I'm high.

SPEAKER_09 50:29

Right. I'm on her robbing shit. Right. You feel what I'm saying? Like, and I feel like I probably would have never got off of drugs if I didn't go to jail. Damn. There was a point where I was in a county for three years getting high as shit, smoking deuce, snorting subs. Damn. Let's keep it a bean. Yeah, let's keep it a hundred. Damn. That's what I was doing in there. Niggas was looking down on me. And I was Himsley out here. You feel what I'm saying? Like on the streets. I'm always keeping myself at least clean. I'm like no dirty nigga. I go to jail, and it's like jail broke me down. So I'm in that joint for three years getting high, and then I went upstate. That's where you started to make the exactly. I started working out.

SPEAKER_08 51:12

So jail saves niggas.

SPEAKER_09 51:14

Jail could save you if you let it though. Yeah, because I can do it. Yeah, I seen niggas crash. Do you be in jail? Which one you gonna pick? I know niggas getting skinnier in jail. Yeah. Facts. I got at that joint. I gained 50 pounds. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_12 51:30

But I love the transparency with you. I love the honestness about the rawness. Like, a lot of niggas won't get up here and say they hit the deuce or something like that, or play. Like, like I said, it's therapy for me. And when you explain it, when you get it out, you feel and then I and you know you're a man. So it's like I ain't tripping by what nobody thinks, but I'm gonna tell you this truth. So hopefully you don't walk on my tracks.

SPEAKER_09 51:51

I'm trying to help other people. People think when I put these jail stories up, like a lot of my jail stories, them drones be going crazy. You feel me? And it's like a person probably think I'm clout. I don't try to portray to be tough on my stories. I just tell it how it is. A lot of times I leave out what I did, so I don't incriminate myself. You know what I'm saying? But I put that up to help people to let you know that because you out here shooting guns do not mean that you're gonna go to jail and be a tough guy. If you don't got stamina, if you ain't got or just even more, or even just hard. Listen, bro.

SPEAKER_12 52:26

I would because I see a nigga get smacked, and you don't need no stamina to stop a nigga from keep smacking you. Yeah, but then you get smacked and then you get your ass whooped. I'm cool with that though. I'm cool with that. I'm cool with that. Like even if it was me, I'm cool with taking the ass whipping off the smack. Like, and I tried to I see the nigga take a smack, I'm like, why? And I'd be like, What the fuck you mean? Why nigga? Why you ain't jumping with this nigga ass?

SPEAKER_11 52:51

I ain't gonna lie, right?

SPEAKER_12 52:52

For real, that's real crazy.

SPEAKER_11 52:54

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_12 52:55

The only way you could truly get back from is a smack him right back. No, if you was to get smacked, the only way you can get back from it. Because listen, say you crush him and not you gotta smack him right back and then do what you got to do.

SPEAKER_09 53:07

All right, let me say this, right? Let's say if a nigga slap me in jail, yeah, and we rumble, yeah, then you we get away with it. Yeah, let's say I don't crush him. I might just want to get you up off of me. Okay, I was so sneaky in jail, bro. You can ask anybody. I'll be in the cell sharpening my banger. I'll tell you everything cool. I don't want no problems, and I'ma stab this shit out you when you're not looking bad.

SPEAKER_12 53:32

That's the only way you're gonna get your get back. Nigga slapped you. Yeah, but I'ma still be like, they be like, Well, why why slim banggy mama slapped the shit out of Slim? No, no, no. For real, though, you're gonna always lead off with that. A slap is a devastating thing to get back from. You don't get it, bro. Go ahead, tell me, let me understand.

SPEAKER_09 53:52

I done know most curvati's in jail, bro. I understand it so hard that it's blood everywhere. I'm gonna get you. Like you getting got. That's a drawing. You ain't paying no attention. You think we cool, yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna get you. You see what I'm saying? So it's like, and that's how I kept my name up. Exactly. I had situations where niggas done hit me and put me out. Nigga done caught me slipping and put me out.

SPEAKER_12 54:15

What you mean, put you out?

SPEAKER_09 54:17

Nigga knocked me out, yeah. And I woke up mad at the motherfuckers. But you know what?

SPEAKER_12 54:22

I got a homie like I got a homie like you, man. Not to cut you off because I want you to keep flowing. And I used to I got a homie named DeWitt, man, from Marcus Street, man. And he used to get the bad end of the stick sometimes throughout the jail. And I'm like, Damn, nick, you let a nigga catch you and knock you out on the phone. He said, Nigga, I done killed all these niggas' family men. What you think is gonna happen once in a while? Yeah, and I used to look at him like, damn, this nigga crazy. He's like, I respect it, come with the game. Nigga caught me out on the phone, my bitch. He knocked me out. All right, I killed the nigga cousin. Damn. All right, cool. So he like that come with it. So for you saying that, I'm like, Yeah, you like you like a nigga knock me out.

SPEAKER_09 54:59

Like, we wouldn't have to be like, 'Rumble the whole time I was in jail until then. My name up. Oh, so he the one that this is what you mean about.' I'm I'm big dog. Yeah, tell me about that joke, baby. Yeah, tell me, man.

SPEAKER_11 55:13

All right, so this this is what happened. Tell me from that short defending. Let's say, man, uh y'all brought me for this shit. This shit real. This shit for real.

SPEAKER_09 55:21

No, it's real though. Like this shit, like I told you, like niggas come home, this shit street shit. But I stabbed the nigga homie. Bad. Like, I'm talking about I didn't bad. Like, almost killed the nigga. Shit, I'm saying, and the nigga ended up, that was his man. So as time went on, three, four months went past after I stabbed his homie. You feel what I'm saying? He ended up feeling some type of way about me stabbing his homie, and he like, dang, I'm running around doing what I want. My name green. And a nigga ended up catching me slipping on the humbug tip. Like they was should they to me they trying to stroll me. It's multiple of these niggas I'm by myself. Yeah, you feel me? So I go to look at one nigga and boom, I'm waking up. See what I'm saying? Yeah, so you already know what happened. You get stabbed too. Yeah, that's just what that's just what it is. That's how I kept my name. I done never let nobody do nothing to me and get away with it. I went to the hole and went upstate. That's why I told you I had a case. I mean, I had a charge. Uh it wasn't a charge, you know, like writer. I'm saying when I went upstate, this is why they wasn't paroling me because I had so much shit on my joint. Then I did that in front of the CO. You see what I'm saying? So it's like, because I just had to get him. I you in jail. The the main thing that you don't never want to do, y'all know you don't never want to let nobody get out on you.

SPEAKER_07 56:42

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_09 56:43

Without no get back. That's a bad precedent. You said you a baby, you a pup. You let a nigga get out on you. I don't care what he did. You get your get back and get it however you're gonna get it. Because in jail, this was thing that like kind of like messed me up in jail. On the streets, I was always one of those people that fight a person one-on-one. Exactly. And I would let you know that I wanted to fight you. I never was the type to sneak nobody, right? But I met this dude, I had got into it with him and his homie. You know what I'm saying? And a nigga snuck me. And obviously, I whooped his ass. You know what I'm saying? But it was like, and the nigga actually threw hot water on me. Right. You know what I'm saying? But I never expected people to like, you know, we young boys, we grew up like one-on-one. We don't know nothing about what these young boys know about. Oh, the nigga did it, I'm gonna shoot him in this in the back of his head. First of all, shooting somebody in the back of the head to me is just some bitch ass shit. You know what I'm saying? Just because you ain't getting nigga a chance to look at you type. But anyway, back to what I'm saying is, and jail is not like that. Everything is diabolical. It's like is so I started doing the same thing. I start sneaking niggas. Yeah, because it was contagious, it's rubbed off. Okay, what I'm gonna do, keep letting these niggas know I want to fight. And this nigga got he go get a knife or something. He's like, all right, yeah, come on, we're gonna fight. And he goes in the cell and get a knife, or he go get some hot piss. And everybody doing it, yeah. Everybody sneaking each other. Yeah. So it's not like whoever gets the up. Every hater you could think about, every hater you could think about that's on the street, all them type of niggas is in jail.

SPEAKER_12 58:13

So let me ask you this, right? When when when when when when you realized you had 30 days to do, right, to go home. Right? Before, before, before I get to that, before I get to that, did Jay, you told me that you, you know, you you tightened up. You weren't knowing what you was on in the county. So did you did you like accomplish anything as far as like certificates and certain things, like get yourself in schooling and stuff like that? No. It was just like no time to do that. All right, so it wasn't no time. All right, cool. You just went up there and got right on, but you got how did you feel going to your 30 days? Like the leave out, like what was on your mind?

SPEAKER_09 58:48

First of all, I'm gonna say this. It was hard up there, I gotta touch base on this. It was hard up there not being able to fight niggas. Right. Because when you when you chill, niggas shoot you like sweet. You feel what I'm saying? So because I was chill, niggas had to tell niggas, like, yo, bro, he he'll stay. Full time I wouldn't because we upstate and I ain't trying to do that. You trying to go home. My name still was green, you feel me? But it was harder, you feel me? Not having that same respect level or not hurting people when they play with me. But when it was the 30 days type, I got so mature, I wasn't high, I wasn't on no sub, no dude. So I'm two years just working out. I'm big as shit upstate. I'm way bigger than this upstate. So niggas wasn't playing with me up there, really. You know what I'm saying? So I didn't really have no trouble. My mindset when I came home to answer your question was to grind, to do everything I'm doing now. That's it. I appreciate freedom.

SPEAKER_12 59:43

You think your mindset was better than it was before you went in prison?

SPEAKER_09 59:47

No.

SPEAKER_12 59:48

I'm talking about what is it is it better than now?

SPEAKER_09 59:50

If I ain't go to jail, I'll be dead or I'd be in jail for life.

SPEAKER_12 59:54

So your mindset now today is better than it was back then.

SPEAKER_09 59:57

Hell yeah, because a nigga ain't died. I didn't care if niggas died. If I shoot you, I don't give a fuck. I'm trying to kill you. Right. But now I don't want to kill nobody. Exactly. I don't give a fuck what you talking about. I'm not trying to smoke nothing. Yeah. Unless I have to smoke you. Exactly. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_12 1:00:15

Because I know you're not running around for free wreck chasing.

SPEAKER_09 1:00:18

Bro, them little niggas, man. Everybody that just got locked up. You know the Philly niggas, everybody got booked. You feel me? Yeah. Listen, you're gonna see a lot of bullshit. That's not where you wanna be at. I look at people that got their whole life, like well, like, like, you know, all right, we ain't gonna talk about everybody.

SPEAKER_12 1:00:35

All these bodies, they in there for a lot of real life drama. They ain't in there for no candy or nothing like that.

SPEAKER_09 1:00:40

Yeah, we're gonna see the real, we gonna see the fake. I looked at like even when I looked at Dirk first get locked up. I'm like, damn, he had everything he wanted. You got the rap game, you got the jewelry, you got the money, you got everything you want. Now you about to get stripped down to nothing but a cell, and everybody telling them people don't play, they don't like you. Go in your cell. That's how they talking to you. You just was telling people what to do. You see what I'm saying? Them young boys, FS the Benner, and all them niggas that got booked and all that, bro. Like that shit about to get crazy. Y'all just was out here living, f having sex with women that you want, getting money. You Hemsley, you could do what you want. You about to get stripped down to nothing. That's what jail does to you. All that status, all that name you got, it means nothing. They're gonna forget about you now.

SPEAKER_12 1:01:35

That that right there, man, that that just gave me chills because I know it's real. And I'm like, I don't really think they do right now. You know, first times don't care. How do you know about jail? You you know you act like you, you know, whatever the case may be, man. But I'm gonna get back to you. Like, so like that night now, after the 30 days you had to do, now you know tomorrow was the next day to go home. How did you feel? I didn't even believe it. When it that 30 days was finally up. I still ain't believe it. Because of all that I hell, but you you weren't trusting it no more now. Now you'd have lost all trust. They discard you there.

SPEAKER_09 1:02:13

And I had I was doing shit. So it was like I ain't know if cases was gonna pop up. I didn't know what was gonna happen. I could think I'm going home and y'all just slapped something on me. Yeah, I don't know what's going on. You feel me? So it's like, and then when I finally did go home, I was just awkward, bro. Like, I was just awkward, weird. You know how I go. I I I don't even recognize my kids, even though I seen them on video visits and all that. I'm like, they don't look nothing like how I thought they looked. You know what I'm saying? Like, and then you know things start just this was it's just weird when you first come home. You don't know nothing. Talking to people is awkward, you're paranoid. I was in there getting into shit. So to me, it was like everybody is a suspect.

SPEAKER_12 1:02:57

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_09 1:02:58

Even now, yeah. I'm gonna keep it real with you. Yeah, like even being in the elevator with y'all, yeah. I'm ordered thinking in my mind, like, man, I don't know what some real I'm gonna keep it a buck up here. Exactly, exactly.

SPEAKER_12 1:03:09

No, but you you're definitely right, though.

SPEAKER_09 1:03:10

You're right. I don't know what the fuck is going on. Like that's just how I be thinking sometimes.

SPEAKER_12 1:03:16

But you gotta think like that to survive and live, man. That's how you were cautious of yourself. You turn it, you're not nothing wrong with that. You a man, yeah, you a man with caution. Yeah, and caution don't mean a nigga a bitch, no. That means I don't want to have to prematurely kill the next man. So let me assess the situation a little bit better than a foot, you know what I'm saying? So I understand everything you're saying to a T, bro. Yeah, everything in prison make you well made me like that. Yeah. I go to the supermarket, let me give you a little tippet of me, just about 30 seconds. I go to the supermarket with my girl, and a lot of the audience and family know I tell the story all the time. I'm just telling you. And she don't like the way I come in there with her. We be in there, and I be in there like a security guard. Like I'm talking about, I'm circling around the aisles, and not because of because the supermarket is like a gymnasium to me. It's like the gym, and all the niggas is down there in the jail gym. I'm like shell shocked from that. So jail make you super cautious. When you when you get out of there, you be on super, I'm talking about super point. Like, yo, like, yeah, ain't nothing can get past me. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_11 1:04:24

So I would time the kendo. Just fucked up in the head. That's the funny part.

SPEAKER_09 1:04:29

Like, I had to start like understanding the difference. You feel me? I even go into planet fitness. I will never walk in planet fitness and just go straight to the locker room. I walk the whole gym.

SPEAKER_12 1:04:40

Oh, y'all just go straight to the locker room. What? I used to do that in jail. We burnt out. Jail make you burnt out. I had a lot of options. A lot of y'all that's going to jail. Sad the statement. I'm not wishing jail on y'all, but it's a lot of people that's watching this episode, this segment, and that's going to jail, man. You're going to go to jail regardless of how much we bring this content to you to at a warming rate. It's a lot of people that's going still, you know. You know, because I was like that. I was knucklehead. People tell me a lot of stuff growing up. I'm like, oh yeah, the bitch, he's scared. They made him do all that motherfucker time. They parked his whip. And I know what they thinking, but I'm like, they damn sure did. She already you ain't lying.

SPEAKER_11 1:05:19

I don't give a damn. I don't give a damn.

SPEAKER_12 1:05:23

Yeah, exactly. Exactly, man. So it's like it's a it's a it's a it's a crazy draw, man. I love I love the story. Like, I love it. So when you first get from so when you came home though, Slim, when you came home, when you finally went to a halfway house or you came straight out in town.

SPEAKER_11 1:05:38

I went to the current, yeah.

SPEAKER_09 1:05:39

Oh, like straight to the case. They maxed me out. Oh you oh you went all the way to the door. Yeah, and they still put me on probation on top of that. Oh, you I thought oh, so I don't know how to stake for the bangers. So the fact that I curt the banger cases, I took probation from.

SPEAKER_12 1:05:52

Okay, or you took probation for you still on probation now or you off? Yeah. Oh, you off? I'm on. Oh, you on right now. I just got off probation, what? This last Thursday, I ain't been on probation since what 1996. That's when I first I'm talking about I ain't been a free man since born. Yeah, I ain't been a free man since when I say free, meaning not just full incarceration, but just free. I ain't got the invisible shack. Right now, I'm a free man. I ain't been this free since 1996. And this just happened Thursday. It just passed. So it's like, damn, I can get to go to any state I want to go to. Like, you don't know how vulnerable, like, or not how much they take from you. Or you give away. Because I ain't gonna say take. Take make it mean you the victim. I gave away my life out here shooting niggas and you know, robbing niggas or selling dope or whatever to go to jail. But you don't realize how much you give away. When you on that parole, man, you really that's like that's really more crazier than prison.

unknown 1:06:48

Oh, it is.

SPEAKER_12 1:06:49

Like, like, like they, you got the walk a they dangling uh freedom in front of you. You gotta, I will snatch it from you. I wish you would. We'll send your ass back in there. And that shit is more mentally fucking with me than me just sitting in there doing it, unless I got life or something like that. So if I'm like, damn, I constantly got to, damn, I can't do this, and I got the it's now if I want to do good in life after I done got out, then that shouldn't be hard for me. But anything and send you back, a DUI, that don't mean you're a bad person, but you just was irresponsible. You know what I'm saying? But it'll still send you back to prison. Because that's a violation, especially in the feds. Man, that parole, when you get off of that, man, it's like a it's like some clause has been really like you really like. I can't go nowhere. Like, I was just on parole. I could talk about it now because I got off parole. I had left and I broke law, and I could have told my PO that I was going. I went down Jacksonville, Florida. I wasn't supposed to leave Philadelphia. You know what I'm saying? But I know I want to do a good interview, and it was for a good cause. We down there, we're doing an interview. Well, who we interviewed that time?

SPEAKER_08 1:07:50

Queso dad.

SPEAKER_12 1:07:51

Queso dad. Went down there. I'm like, man, I gotta go there and get this interview to let the people know about anybody I tell on you. Your father, your brother, your mother. Did this is no one is exempt coming together.

SPEAKER_09 1:08:02

I remember seeing that uh what he told on his son. The old head boy, yeah.

SPEAKER_12 1:08:06

We went down Jacksonville Florida.

SPEAKER_09 1:08:09

Exactly. Yeah, that was crazy. That was wild.

SPEAKER_12 1:08:11

You know what I'm saying? So I went down Florida to go get him to do it. But it's like, damn, I played with because if he'd have called me and be like, yo, I need to see you right now. I'm in Jacksonville, Florida. How the hell am I gonna get to him? I'm going to jail. Soon as I get back, where you was at, man. Like, it's no excuse I could have gave him for that long. Yeah. It's crazy. You know what I'm saying? So getting them them invisible shackles removed, man, that parole, man. How much more time you got on parole? I'm about to get off. Oh, you oh, you coming up on it.

SPEAKER_09 1:08:41

Yeah, I'm done. Yeah, I'm damn near done.

SPEAKER_12 1:08:44

Why you got any plans for when you get off? Or just slide.

SPEAKER_09 1:08:47

I be feeling like I be feeling trapped in Philly, man. I'm ready to go.

SPEAKER_12 1:08:51

So now that you've been, how long you been home then?

SPEAKER_09 1:08:53

Like seven months.

SPEAKER_12 1:08:55

Seven months? Seven months, man. I'm I'm making me a handshake, man. You out here and you got to admit, I like that, man. And you got your head on, Rossi, the way you think. I like I said, I watch a lot of your content, bro.

SPEAKER_10 1:09:08

I appreciate that.

SPEAKER_12 1:09:09

Like, I really sit and go through each one of your joints and be in there cracking up and everything. Because we tell it, you know, man, it's it's we're a brother. We ain't from the same mother, but all three of us, when you've been through a trial and tribulation, is such as the penal system, like if you never been there, you can never tell me how that is. You understand what I'm saying? I might can tell you about something else, like a house. I never been in that house, but I know what a house is like because I live in a house. So I can assume what your house is like. But you can't assume what prison is like unless you've been in there. There is no assuming about prison. If I never been in there actually myself, I could put I could listen to all your stories, yeah, as gay people, and this and that, and this and that, but I'm gonna build a little concept of until I get in there and be like, dang, tell me this. Oh my God, because prison is so much, it's a never-ending topic. You know, and it's sad, it's weird.

SPEAKER_09 1:10:02

I even say that like it's a never-ending.

SPEAKER_12 1:10:04

It's yo, when you really think about it, bro, it's you could never like everybody is affected by prison. Women men, kids, uh, you know, like everybody takes it. Whether it wasn't, even if it wasn't you that went to prison, it might have been a cousin, an aunt. Everybody knows about prison. Everybody that I go to in the inner city, they whether they've been there or not, somebody they know prison is relevant in the African-American hood or society at an alarming rate, bro. These are billion-dollar injuries, not billion-dollar corporations, man. Like, let me ask y'all a question, right? And I don't want I want to get into these calls, man, where anybody could call up, man. But let me ask you a question. Do you think that let me ask you this because I want you to give me your full. Do you think people really want to stop prison? Like, you think if people want to, you know, crime stop, they can go ahead and shut down the prison. You think people want to do that? You think like the guards and stuff want to do that? Like, man, I wish they stopped committing crime and all that when nobody had to get locked up. Nah, nah. Why?

SPEAKER_09 1:11:06

Because it's a business.

SPEAKER_12 1:11:07

That's how they paying their families. That's how they, that's how they, you know, uh, and they're not wrong. That's how they're taking care of their families.

SPEAKER_09 1:11:13

All the COs, people that would.

SPEAKER_12 1:11:16

I heard something about, but they somebody told me that he didn't do it. It wasn't him.

SPEAKER_08 1:11:19

But you gotta think where the prisons at and them little hick towns, it's nothing out there but the prison. The whole family work at the prison.

SPEAKER_12 1:11:23

Exactly for years. This is this is a career. Prisons is career. This is I'm talking about you got the I mean certain jails I've been to, and I've been to about 12 federal facilities in 21 years. And these these certain hick towns, Virginia, uh Hazleton, like these backcountry roads and with a jail be just stuck right there. I'm talking about you be driving in the wilderness for like four hours straight and don't see no buildings. And the only building you come up on is this prison. These people need this to take care of their population inside. Like, they don't want people to stop coming to jail. And they're not wrong for that. Because this is how they take care of their family. This is my livelihood. Why would I want them? I'm not gonna be happy if people stop committing breaking law where they could come here. Just think about it. So, this is something they got to keep on doing. That's what because people got, man, listen. If y'all don't listen while y'all here, boy, y'all gonna be sliding down razor blades into alcohol rivers. This shit right here, right? Like, like now, but let's get back to you, Slim though. Like, now, now that you out, man, like, you know, and you be having a lot of positive messages in your content. Because your content be your kind of jailhouse content, but it's a message. You know what I'm saying? See, I overlook, like when I look at stuff, I really get into it. You know, I look at the background, I don't just look at the speaker, I look at everything where I could feel, I like to, I like to get the whole thing. And I that's how I gravitate to your content. And I'm like, damn man, bro, know what it's like to put everything into motion. You know what I'm saying? And now that you're home, man, like, and you doing this, like, what are some other things that you got on you know what I mean on your mind? You got seven months in, man. Seven months home, man. You just came home, bro. You fresh out, man. I'm glad that you got your mind on track, man. You I'm thinking you've been home for some years. Yeah, like, yo, you come home straight with a game plan. Is it hard? Is it hard? Because a lot of dudes say, man, I ain't gonna sit there and act like I want, but a lot of dudes come, man, you can't get a job, you can't do, especially before I came home. See niggas come back on violently, what happened, man? But I know he be all high and bad from off the K2 sometime. I'll be like, man. And I'm like, man.

SPEAKER_09 1:13:34

The problem is that motherfuckers just don't like all right, the this why it's hard. Sorry, not even to cut you off, my bad for that, but this is why it's hard because when you come like when you come home with a plane, it's different. Like, for instance, starting a podcast. Stick to the plane, starting a podcast, right? You need equipment, you need your video cameras, you need videos, whatever you need to start that. Other people that don't make plans, you know what I'm saying? To them, it's just like they scattered all around. But when you got a plan, it's like, all right, let's say, all right, now you need the money for your equipment, you need the money for this, that, and the third, but you still gotta take care of your family, you still got a car note, you still got a house, whatever the case may be. So a lot of people just resort back to the streets because it's like, all right, I'm just gonna get this fast money real quick and I'm gonna pay for this. Now you done forgot all about the podcast. Now you back in the streets because there's so much money here or doing whatever. You know what I'm saying? So that's why. So for me, it is kind of hard. Like, I thought I was gonna come home and just rag. You know what I'm saying? But it's like I can't see myself just putting myself out there for no reason. I don't want to be famous in Philly without uh an objective or somewhere that I'm thinking I'm going at or being able to just get up out of here. I have a plan, and sometimes when your plans don't go through as fast as you want them to go through, it make you kind of give up. You know what I'm saying? So that's why I think people but um sometimes finding direction be hard. You don't know what you want to do. But my drawing is I'm just gonna do it. Regardless, I'm building my status as a person. I don't care. You know what I'm saying? But people that just come home, man, I just say, like, man, just whatever you try and do, man, just do it.

SPEAKER_12 1:15:21

People be thinking too much. So that'll be your your your you're not not to just people coming home, but to like the youth out there. Like you have anybody. That's good. So that goes for it, just do it.

SPEAKER_09 1:15:31

Like just do it. A lot of times when I don't just do stuff now, I'm not saying don't plan, but a lot of times when I don't just go ahead and do it, I get sidetracked it and I start losing faith and losing. Just go ahead and do it. I don't care what you wanna. I'm right now, my status. I'm a rapper, I'm a fashion designer, I'm a boxer, I'm nothing ever took off. I ain't take off. I'm stuck, I'm storytelling, I'm starting a podcast, I'm doing all kinds of shit. But eventually something's gonna stick to that wall. You throw shit at the wall, see what see what stick. Something is gonna get is gonna get you there. Facts, and then that's the drone that you might say, all right, this is what I'm gonna go with for right now. And then that drone might just open up the doors for everything else that you're trying to do. You know what I'm saying? Rappers become actors, rappers become, streamers become boxers. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, it ain't really too hard for me, man. I'm I'm I'm gonna keep pushing. Long as I'm free, I appreciate just breathing air, stepping in the snow. I post a video of me just stepping in the snow. Like, damn, y'all, I get to step in the snow.

SPEAKER_12 1:16:33

It's something that uh we always ask uh everybody that comes up on the show, man, have been to the Pinot system, and I'm quite sure. You I know ain't no doubt my mind that you've seen both of these from you know, letting me know about the things that you've been the vibe that you've been involved with in jail. Yeah, but um, I'm gonna ask you what I asked everybody about that lock and sock and that night.

SPEAKER_11 1:16:53

Oh, that joint.

SPEAKER_12 1:16:53

I knew it was something. Yeah, man, you know that that that's my favorite my john that because I'll be wanting to give people a clear understanding of what if you gotta go to jail, you might as well know what you got coming or stop the bullshit and leave whatever. Go get your ass a job, man. I'm telling you, boy, you better you're gonna be sitting in there like, yo, I was just watching slimming them up there, and they told me this nigga told me about this. Why, why wait? Will you go do it now? But yeah, but about that lock of sock, right? I'm gonna give you a scenario. You know, you always, it's easy for me to give you this scenario too. You ain't slim, you all no, no, I don't want one. No, no, no, I don't want one. I don't want one. I don't want one, but I'm gonna give you this. So you in jail, you having beef with a dude, right? And you said you seen how that knife does damage and that lock of sock do damage. You having beef with a dude, you know, you might squash it. You might squash it with him by, all right, or you go watch TV, whatever. Dude, he really still feels some type of way, and he's creeping up behind you. Now you don't know he's creeping behind you. You probably, you know, distracted by something, but you watch the TV. Now he's gonna either he can either hit you with a lock and a sock or he can stab you. Which one would you rather him use if he had to get off on you? Stab me. Why you say you don't want that lock is out? That lock is that lock dangerous like that? It's because in other words, you telling me that lock might be more double. Three times, right?

SPEAKER_09 1:18:17

You know what I'm saying? Right. That stab, first of all, in jail, a lot of people be thinking this these super sharp. I had some shit, but everybody don't got some shit. You feel me? Exactly. What I mean by some shit is a really good knife that killed you. Exactly. Stab me, bro, because at the end of the day, that lock, man, you get hit with that lock, you're gonna be dizzy, and you might not have a chance to recover.

SPEAKER_12 1:18:41

And no, it'd be funny because with dudes between because the only dudes that been in jail a long time, as far as such of us how we did or did time and been around real shit, and not even a long time scratching it everywhere. It hit it, and I'm like, it made me look at life different like damn, everywhere that joint landed, it was like mouth open, and it wouldn't even bleep. It was like everything looked like a baby mouth. He had like eight mouths on his face, yeah. That's just that was open, and and that's that's bad, man. We laugh, but it's it's serious, like you'll have to go probably get put underneath one another because you know a lot of dudes be having little sassy attitudes out here and go to jail. You can't have no sassy attitude around grown ass men, some men. Yo, niggas be in their feelings. Come on, man. Niggas out here really be acting prettier than they female. People in jail do that too, though.

SPEAKER_09 1:19:32

But they get knocked out. I had sell, I I had sullies that was like, I had to literally tell niggas, hey, bro, I don't care about nothing. You talk only thing I care about feelings for people feelings I care about is my girl and my kids. Niggas be acting like female. Damn, you ain't speak to me today. Damn, bro, why you ain't do this or why you ain't like you on something? Like it's the same thing, but it's on 10 in jail. Niggas think it's haters out here, man. You it ain't even that many haters out here. It's all haters. Anytime you get some motion, they send it, they tell it on you. And it be the niggas you think that's tough, that you think is gangsters, be talking to them CEOs and telling because you got motion. He's selling drugs. I had my celly, he had a good ass high spot where to put his drugs at. But my celly was an idiot, an old idiot. And that nigga was like down there 40, but he was dumb. And I ran everything. We was getting all the money up to the same selling the food, selling the ease, he had the deuce, and he had to suck. Long story short, I kept telling him to stop showing niggas where he put his shit at. And he particularly showed this one person that we thought was gangster. And somehow, some way, the nigga get ran down on. And he get pulled. Now he in a hole for 45 and he get transferred to another jail. And he about to get slapped on his parole, and he thought he was gonna go home in six. So they not letting you go within that four-year period, and then you gonna do that two in the feds. You about to you about to max out.

SPEAKER_08 1:21:19

You can get out of jail, they're gonna hit you.

SPEAKER_09 1:21:21

Smack you in your head for a year and get into anything. They're gonna do he maxing out that six. I ain't telling. I ain't wanna hurt his feeling. But yeah, you gonna do that six, and then they're gonna send you to the feds and do two, and you already 37, 38. I'm saying, so it's like Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_12 1:21:39

It ain't worth it, man. It ain't worth it, man. It ain't worth it, man. Like, again, I say jail, you know, it taught me a lot of qualities. It taught me how to be a man. I like I said, I came, I was coming to jail since I was a kid, man. I've been coming to jail, and then now and I and I'm embarrassed by that. I grew up in jail. I didn't have no GD when I went to jail. I got that in jail. I have certain type of uh, you know, uh diplomas and certain type of work aspects. I got that in jail. I wasn't washing my ass. I learned how to wash my ass right in jail. And I'm sad to say it, but I'm telling you some real shit. But it's like I grew up in there, man. And I had an old way before I went to jail. I was on the streets one day. I was a young boy. I probably was like 9, 10, or whatever. And I'm just out there running around. I'm in the crib with him, and I was thinking. He was like, yo, you need to go ahead and do like 18 months up Cornwall Heights or something like that. And I used to look at it like, damn, oh wait, what you talking about? But he was a jailhouse boy. He's old, he's like 18. And I'm like, man, he's like, that'll give you a little discipline. And this was when we I was a kid, this was like 88, 89. So I'm like, damn. A lot of people take jail as a school, a different type of school, but we're trying to get through to these people to not not be on, not you don't have to go to this school to learn. You don't have to go to prison to learn how to conduct yourself as a man. It's okay to get you a job. You don't have to be out there with the homies sitting on the corner. Yeah, I mean, you you you're gonna get a girl by going to school, go get having you a job, and you might get a girl faster than that nowadays about than standing on the corner. What you think? What you think, Slim?

SPEAKER_09 1:23:10

I think you're gonna get them by having a job.

SPEAKER_12 1:23:13

They know you ain't going nowhere.

SPEAKER_09 1:23:15

No, let me tell you something. I could buy what the fuck I want.

SPEAKER_12 1:23:17

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_09 1:23:18

I don't gotta worry about no money. When you a hustler, you gotta worry about if your mind, I know my brother is a hustler. And he might have 50 grand in his pocket every day. And next year he might have 20. And the next year he might have 30. It's too, it's too much of a you know what I'm saying? I'd rather have good credit and a job, and then I'll figure out the hustle on the side. You know what I'm saying? They know that when you go to that store, I could buy you something and I can keep buying you shit, because I'm always gonna have money. And then then you join a union and now you really set because anytime you can't never really not have a job when you're in a union.

SPEAKER_12 1:23:59

You can't never really not have a job. You gotta be employed. You gotta be.

SPEAKER_09 1:24:11

They might give you small construction jobs, and now you're learning to trade. Yeah, you might get a bigger job.

SPEAKER_12 1:24:15

Exactly.

SPEAKER_09 1:24:16

I'm in the union. You see what I'm saying? So I would rather much so I'm not sitting on no blocks. I don't want to have to crash. And then you know some people don't know themselves. When you know yourself, you a lot better off, and jail teaches you how to know yourself. When you know you a crash out at heart, and I'm really gonna crash. Like, I just know I'm gonna crash. Right. You might want to put yourself in a situation where you ain't gonna crash, bro. You know what I'm saying? And that's what I do. Like, I keep my I'ma crash. I know it. I'm not even gonna think twice about it until the consequences come. And the light part of life I am now, I'm not taking no consequences. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_12 1:24:54

I feel that, bro. I feel that, bro.

SPEAKER_09 1:24:55

Bro, that shit might have you to the point where you like, I'm not going back, my man to death. He shot it out with the police, he's not going back to jail, bro. So I'm not gonna put myself in a situation where I gotta do no crazy shit like that. You feel me? Like, I'm just cool. But when you know yourself, you know not to put yourself on no block. Because if somebody try you on that block and you shoot them and you kill them, now you gotta go to jail, or you gotta shoot it out with the police, then you might not die when they shoot you back, and now you in jail and you shot it out with the police, and that nigga probably ain't die, and now you shot at the police, you ain't never gonna home. That's a situation. I seen this shit, bro.

SPEAKER_08 1:25:30

That's a situation.

SPEAKER_09 1:25:31

My man, my right-hand man, my man Ricky, free Ricky. That's my dog. That's the only nigga I walked up state with and was in ass. Like, I'm talking about everywhere. You don't see Ricky unless you see me. We was workout junkies, that's all we did. And I'm going home and I'm complaining, but I didn't feel comfortable complaining to my man because my man got 15 to 30. He's been locked up since he was 19, he's 36 right now. They won't let him go, bro. Because he was shooting it out with the police. Me and him got the same sign. We Aries, babies. You feel me? Nigga told me he said my mindset was that when I went to jail, the first time I said, I'm not going back to jail. That's not what's happening. And he shot it out with the police. Now, every time he goes up the C parole, what you think they're doing?

SPEAKER_08 1:26:18

Yeah, they heard, huh?

SPEAKER_09 1:26:19

They blast him anytime he goes up, I'm uh and he keeps rumbling with the CEOs. He's the crash out. You know what I'm saying? So it's like it hurt me because it's like, you know, he could call me for whatever, but I don't nobody give a fuck about that, bro. He already figured out how to make money in jail. I figured out how to, I didn't need nobody after doing years in jail. By the time I was three years and I went upstate, I figured out how to make money. I don't need no money. I'm sending money home. My man sending money home. He's buying all types of designer from jail. So him calling me is like only thing he's gonna hear from me is talk about freedom. He don't even want to talk to me for real. You see what I'm saying? So it's like it hurt me to see my homie like knowing that that's like my best friend, and I gotta leave him in jail and I gotta go home. Like that's fucked up. And the fact that he's up to see parole, and then guess what? He just got into a rumble and he was chilling, bro. He's a he's a demon. He did seven years in the hole, went back and did another six. This is him, he's a he's a demon. He was chilling the whole time so he could see parole. Niggas is burning him for money. I'm paying tabs to make sure my man don't crash on you. He chilling the whole time, and then he was supposed to see parole in June. What is it? Man, what is it, man? What right now? March. It's March right now. It's March, April, man. Three months here to see him. I don't even keep track of time, but three months here to see him perole. When it was time for him to see perole, a nigga burnt him for 800. The cash up got sent to the wrong nigga and whoop de whoop, whatever the fuck happened, the nigga wasn't trying to pay him back, knowing he gotta see perul. He crashed out on a nigga. Now you just was run. NCOs, you got your original case was shooting at a cop, and now you rumble somebody again. They when they went to parole, when he went to parole, they said to him, like, you are a very violent individual. They bring up cases from when he was 19. Is they wrong? Is they wrong? I think I'm violent. You violent. He violent. We all violent. But do that mean that he deserved to be in jail for that long? The nigga was chilling. If he got enough common sense to chill, I'm not saying that he won't. That's my man. I'm gonna back him. I'm backing his play. But I'm not saying he won't come out here and act crazy. You know what I'm saying? But at the end of the day, I feel like he should have a chance to leave. He was 19, he's 36, 37 years old now. Let that man go, bro. But they not gonna let him go. And that's just a fact. They're gonna max him out that 30 if they can. And they can.

SPEAKER_12 1:28:52

And they in they in there really doing it to people, ain't they? They maxing niggas out. People to see they don't they be on. You think because you got 15 or 30, you going home in 15 to 30? You think you're home 15 years? Yeah, that's what they think. I be hearing them say, man, I probably do 17, at least 17.

SPEAKER_09 1:29:09

And the craziest thing about it, even talking about the young boys FS have been there. I don't know them. Yeah, I'm saying even speak their name, but I'm just gonna say it like this. He could come home. Or my bad. He could go to jail and 20 years later, nobody goes to jail and be like, fuck it. This is what it is. Niggas, as soon as the first day, nigga, you evaluate and what you did and why the fuck you did that shit, and I could have been out of there. The next week you thinking about that shit, the next year, you like, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_08 1:29:45

Everybody in jail wanna come home.

SPEAKER_09 1:29:46

Everybody wanna come home, and everybody gonna think because we human beings, unless you're mentally retarded or mentally ill, you're gonna understand that what you did, you didn't have to do, and you didn't have to live that life, and you should have done this. It's like if you touch a stove and it's hot, I shouldn't have touched the stove. You feel me? So in 20 years, a nigga gonna sit up and he gonna think and he gonna be a different person, possibly. And that nigga is still gonna be looked at as the same person and they not gonna let you go if you get life. They don't give a fuck unless you get a something that's in your case where you can finangle. You know what I'm saying? So, like, that shit for real.

SPEAKER_12 1:30:24

Like, who you done walked all over my heart just now, boy. That's true. That's real. Cause man, like, boy, that right there, man. It kind of like, like, then it's it's so crazy. Like, I grip my teeth, like, because it's a fact, you learn. But one thing it taught me, I'm humble humza. Man, when I be riding past, I'm talking about, man, listen, man. I be I need that sidewalk therapy. I'm sorry. I do not need that yard walk at all. I'm cool, I'm humble humza. And I ain't saying to the point where though I'm telling them I'm a man at the end of the day. I'm a cold-blooded man, I'm a mind my business, I'm a walk, I know what I need to do. I I put on responsibilities because that keeps me out the way even more. You learn that by you powering responsibility and tasks and you completing them, you ain't got no time for the dumb shit. Wrong man shit here. You getting passports, running around getting IDs, and you filing for this and bank accounts over. You don't have no time for dumb shit if you doing the right thing. Like, think about it though.

SPEAKER_09 1:31:24

I don't. I don't got no time. You catch me lacking, nigga. You probably was supposed to.

SPEAKER_12 1:31:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 1:31:30

Because I'm just telling you now, bro. I'm my days is like filled. I ain't got no time for nothing. I don't got time for nothing, bro. I don't barely go out.

SPEAKER_12 1:31:40

Man, I'm glad I could again, man. I'm glad I can get got you up here, Slim, man, where you can go in, man, and get the get the message out to you. We're glad, man. Everybody up here is glad, man. Like I appreciate it. And and this ain't the end. We're gonna definitely, you know, talk again, but today we just had to break the mood. And I wanted, because you know, I sit up here, me and my cousin, you know, my brother talk, feet. We up here and we bring them live. But when it comes from different, I like it to come from different human beings that walk that walk. You know, that actually been there. Like, how did this like I'm meant to ask you and I apologize about that, but how did this uh affect your mother? Well, well, well, your father, did your father with you?

SPEAKER_09 1:32:19

My father here, but my pop, like, he more He like one of them. It is what it is with him. My mom, it was just more so like, you know what my mom used to say to me? She used to be like, I'm glad you're in jail.

SPEAKER_12 1:32:31

But you know what? That's a different type of love. That's a love to know. I got a knucklehead right here, and he needs something a little bit more sterner than don't do that again. She said, I know it sounds crazy. That don't sound crazy to me. It don't sound crazy to me, though, because we from that claw. I understand.

SPEAKER_08 1:32:50

That's crazy because I work in a juvenile attention with the kids. I told you that. I said, Yo, mom's happy y'all in here, man. Y'all safe, man. Y'all ain't out there getting killed. Y'all there dying, man.

SPEAKER_09 1:32:59

And look, I'm delayed. I got to go home and see my mom before she died.

SPEAKER_08 1:33:04

I told him that earlier, but your mom's happy all in here. Some of the time I become right upwards, we're doing anything.

SPEAKER_09 1:33:11

You don't wanna you don't want to die before your parents. That's some shit. That's just you don't want to do that. Even though it's hard to see your parents, it's not that hard to oppose that you losing a child. Like my mom used to she used to be like, I'm happy you want to. She said, I used to, she said, I used to cut and sleep at night. That's what she told me. She said, I used to be up at night.

SPEAKER_08 1:33:38

So you come in that crib, shut that door, and then she's like, I ain't go to the house.

SPEAKER_09 1:33:42

I ain't go to my mama. So it's just she just up. Yeah, she just up losing sleep. And she'll call me and talk to me and shit like that. Sometimes I, you know, different parts of my life I love my mom, but I just was never that type person, you feel me? So my mom just was she she went through it knowing that, and then you know, the five years I did, my mom was out there, and she got a chance to like have just a little bit of peace, knowing that you know that you was that you was yeah, you feel me? And I was I was cool in jail, like uh I was robbing people because I wanted to, but I didn't have to rob nobody. My whole family got money, you know what I'm saying? Like, even if it's just a like a job, you can't take care of your family uh hustling when you 60 and 70. You feel me? So it's like that's how I was taken care of in jail. You feel me? Like I wasn't I wasn't going through it but so much, but you know, like yeah, my mom was happy about that shit. And at the end of the day, I came home better. I didn't come home on no junkie shit. I came home clean. I came home, you know, females like me. It just ain't it ain't the same. A lot of these boys be young and they be they be too skinny. Like even a me. Like, how old is you?

SPEAKER_08 1:34:58

33.

SPEAKER_09 1:34:58

You 33, and the way you look right now compared to a young man, I guarantee you they're gonna choose you. They not picking him. He on not him, but you they not picking no yeah, like come on, bro. Like, you stay you bony baloney, you look like the Grim Reaver.

SPEAKER_12 1:35:15

Bony baloney.

SPEAKER_09 1:35:17

Come on, bro. You ain't taking care of you.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:19

When they wake up, they get ah I love it, man.

SPEAKER_12 1:35:23

I love it. I love it. I love it to where we can can this grown men talk right here. This grown men, one aspect of grown men talk. This is just like jail talk is not your priority, but it's a constant reminder for me. Every day I wake up, there's not a day I haven't not thought of jail. Not because I want to go back there, not because I want to go back there, but because I'm extra cautious about life there. Like, there is not a day that I've been home that I haven't thought, like it haven't crossed my mind about something that it like I just went through a whole day and the word jet was something that you think that's crazy? Yes, that's a that's a that that's a disease that you can catch from going to jail, that's a mental disease exactly on a whole accountability at its finest.

SPEAKER_09 1:36:15

Yeah, it's called being. I'm I I'm still a little bit institutional. Yeah, wow, people talk to me and shit. I'll tell you about jail quick. And I don't even tell no story, I just keep it. I just tell you like, yo, like in jail, this was happening, or in jail, and people, some people that they don't notice it. But if you know me and be around me 247, you know that anything I say is probably gonna relate back to jail.

SPEAKER_12 1:36:40

Man, I'm glad, man. I'm glad that you're home, man. I'm glad that you not only home, but with a more because being around, I'm like you said, I'm I'm pretty, I think the longer you be in jail, the better judge of character of person you are. Like mean me, meaning I I could pretty much read the room. And I might get it wrong sometimes, but seven to out of seven out of ten, I got it. I could feel a man's energy, men respect men. And you gain that type of you know, aura by being in prison. When you around all these dogs all day long, man, the men is separated from the boy. You will get knocked the all the all that switchy, and I get that. That shoots your whole head off and your legs come off and all that. I get it. That's easy too. You keep on running and diving through cars and haul ass and out the way. When you got a stand on business and a nigga in your face, you know what I mean, and and this might not even be the biggest nigga size-wise, and he willing to break your fucking jaw. He done did it to about four or five other niggas before, and you notice that's a different type of heart. And you know, I seen men be scared to death of other men. Like I tell you about the slap, a nigga, but like the first thing he does is like, why you do that? Like, damn, that was your reaction to why you do that. This prison, man, this prison, this prison talk, man. I and I see you home and you motivated, man. Muhammadila, man. And a lot of a lot of people don't get second chances, man. But us coming home, that's enough. A lot of dudes gonna sit in there forever. Even if you're sitting there 40 years, that your life is over.

SPEAKER_08 1:38:18

Hey, well, no, no, because some people come home doing good out there, they're bullheads.

SPEAKER_09 1:38:21

Well, yeah, but they but then you gotta be real smart and strong to do that. I I don't know that that's just bro. For you to be doing listen, man. I commend you. You hear me?

SPEAKER_12 1:38:31

Thank you, man. I appreciate that.

SPEAKER_09 1:38:32

I don't know what would have happened if I had to do 20 years and come home. When I tell you, my mind, it's it just got right normal. You know what I'm saying? Like that shit, you thinking wrong, man, because you get taken, everything gets taken from you, so you you're not scared to lose. Facts, facts. You just not scared of it no more. You ain't scared of hell, you ain't scared of you know it hell could be a state of mind that you're living in. And it's like when you just get put in those situations like that, you just don't be scared no more. And it's like not being scared, not always smart. You know what I'm saying? I mean, you need fear, you know what I'm saying? So it's like, and these bulls come home at the 20 and 30, and you gotta figure out direction, you gotta figure out money, you gotta figure out all this stuff, and it's like I'm gonna tell you a secret.

SPEAKER_12 1:39:20

If it wasn't for a few individuals in my life, I'd be back in jail. Wow. The support system I got, man. If it wasn't for that support system, I come from nothing, man, and I ain't proud of that. Like, I I recently met my family again, and I got a strong family. This is my cousin. I ain't been around him in years. I met him about three to four years ago. You know what I'm saying? And this is my blood cousin, my mother's sister. I just told you that man, his mother, his mother and my mother is sisters, and they both die a week apart. You understand what I'm saying? And this is like, you know how people like cuz, cousin, I respect that. Y'all might have been through the mud together, and you feel as though this is your cousin because y'all been through with no, this is my family member. So it's like, damn, like, we here now. It's it's it's just we here now, you gotta take responsibility for what you got going on, and that's it, man. Yeah. And just move on forward, man. Like, I would be back in prison, bro, if it wasn't for these people that I had in my life. Yeah. So would I say the first thing a person needs is some support, man. If you don't got no support, just imagine, like, you need some type of motivational support. Not to say it can't be done if you just get it from because if you do it all by yourself, that's completely taking it out the dirt. Completely. And I and I had to say, even though I got support, I still gotta dig it out the mud, but I got help. I got niggas with their hands on that cord pulling it with me. That's my support. I know niggas that gotta pull it all by themselves, man. And I don't even know how they're gonna do that, Brad. You you you you understand what I'm saying, though, bro? You understand what I'm saying, bro? Especially after you did 20, 30 years, bro. How how do you want me to pull this motherfucker up out this hole, man?

SPEAKER_09 1:40:55

You just stuck so deep in it, it's just like how the fuck you gonna get up out of that? It's a mental when you leave jail, you still mentally locked up. That was the whole point that I was making. You feel me? You still there in your head.

SPEAKER_12 1:41:12

Man, it's just something to think about, man. It's just something to think about.

SPEAKER_09 1:41:16

The people that help you, and this is another thing I'm gonna say, like the people that help you take the opportunities, man. Because I took so many opportunities for granted, and things I could have done when I was home. That's the difference between somebody that's been to jail and somebody that didn't that didn't. We grab that. I need that, like this me. But when you ain't been to jail, it's like you just take life for granted. It's like it is what it is, type shit. You feel me? And it's like, no, I take opportunities, nigga. So one of somebody I knew since I was a kid, everybody knows people. We all human beings. Yeah, I'm pretty sure since a kid you knew somebody that you grew up or that was an adult when you was a kid and they still care about you. If you got that, most likely you got that. Take advantage of those people in a good way. Somebody told me they can get me in a union. Let me get that.

SPEAKER_12 1:42:04

Yeah, exactly. That's a layup. You gotta assist. That's the assist. You right there to the basket. Now it's up to you to still do it. But the assist, thank you, man. Thank you. I appreciate you, man.

SPEAKER_09 1:42:16

And now you're doing construction.

SPEAKER_12 1:42:18

You ain't taking nothing for granted, bro. I need that. That's a part of accountability, bro. That's all. See, accountability is made up of a bunch of to me anyway. Just because I say it don't mean it's correct. This is just my opinion on it. But accountability is made of a bunch of different moving pieces, you know. And right there, what you just said is accepting the the the the the olive branch that was handed in a correct manner to get me further in life. Yeah, come on, man. A lot of people just look at it like you think some motherfucker's supposed to give you something. Ah man. Ain't nobody coming to save you. I'm telling you that ain't nobody coming to save you in jail. Ain't nobody coming to say you out here in society. This shit ain't nobody. Once you a grown ass man, it shit crunchy now. You're gonna be on cups if you out this motherfucker playing around, or your ass gonna be back in that penitentiary.

SPEAKER_11 1:43:11

Yo, what's some shit? You know what jail teaches you though? Jail teach you that you a grown ass man at that, though nobody really cares about you.

SPEAKER_09 1:43:20

Like, like when you in that joint, you be expecting somebody to have mercy on you. Like, damn, just let me go. Like, you know what I'm saying? I did the time, I did this amount of time. Damn, don't you think that's enough for me? Man, I don't give a fuck about you. You're hit, nigga. We trying to max you out. We want you to do 30 years, and they looking at you with a bare face and that parole joint, they like this.

SPEAKER_12 1:43:43

No, nothing, nothing, they they ain't showing you a smirk of emotion. They don't care, they ain't got no emotion.

SPEAKER_09 1:43:50

You don't think they care? Bro, they that's like trying to talk. You know what I had to notice in life? That you can't talk an asshole out of being an asshole. Right. Right. You got all assholes, but there are white people that don't care about you.

SPEAKER_12 1:44:05

They don't know you, they don't care about you. They all they know is this job that they got in front of them, and this goddamn convict or criminal or animal or whatever class you want to put that person in is in front of them. And they got their job is to protect society, so-called. This is what they uphold it. He killed somebody going over the file. Yeah, let him do four more of that. He got 25.

SPEAKER_08 1:44:29

They want you. But they didn't child moves home.

SPEAKER_12 1:44:32

No, they punish them now though, especially in the feds. They over there with 70 years of boy. They cooking them sideways over there.

SPEAKER_08 1:44:40

Going out the first time.

SPEAKER_09 1:44:41

Because the the the Fez is different, obviously, because you you made it to the Fez, you did some crazy shit. Yeah, them state draws, they protect them up there.

SPEAKER_12 1:44:50

Yeah. On your on my protect them in the jail, though.

SPEAKER_09 1:44:52

In the jails, they're no, they protect you in the jail and they let you home.

SPEAKER_12 1:44:56

Okay.

SPEAKER_09 1:44:56

My drawing is all I did was shoot a nigga. What the fuck?

SPEAKER_12 1:45:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 1:45:01

How the fuck are you still letting him there? On my paperwork, it say I got kids. It say I take care of my kids. How you just feel comfortable leaving me in jail after I did four or five years in jail? How you feel comfortable giving me another hit knowing I got kids? You don't care. They don't care about you. You feel me? So it's like that that's what jail teaches you. Like, you it's a lot on a man. You feel me? It's a lot to be on a man, just being a man, and it's like in jail, too. Ain't nobody got no mercy for you. I'm talking about y'all running around killing people and doing all man. What? They hope you think about it. We we we we out here right now, you don't want to be walking in the street and niggas just shooting and you got your kids at the park and all this. You know what I'm saying? We don't even want that, and we just regular, we black people. So you think these white people that's gentrifying your neighborhood, that moved your folks out and bought the cribs and all everything, man. They don't want you out there anyway.

SPEAKER_08 1:46:02

That's why we gotta stay free, man. Say it.

SPEAKER_12 1:46:05

Yeah, man. Again, man, like, yeah, I mean, we ready uh come to a close in a minute, man, because we could sit up here all night long, man. Talk to our goddamn yummy heads. You gotta you gotta come back up again, though.

SPEAKER_11 1:46:16

Like, sure.

SPEAKER_12 1:46:17

I got some crazy stories to tell y'all. We gotta get on. Yeah, we gotta get on because our messages, again, man, we we're not up here promoting jail, we're not wearing it as a badge of honor or saying this is a rite of passage. No. What we will do though is tell you the goddamn truth was going on in there. Well, that's all we can do. I'm gonna tell you everything from the funny shit to the serious shit. And you might think the serious shit funny, but you're gonna get everything at an alarming rate as you should. And then the men that we bring up here is cut from that same cloth. Not because they want to brag about that. No, because this is really like we were we really up here in therapy. I'm really I I got my issue, I got my shot. Like, that's what they call like getting your shot. Like, that's what they do. They say, I get your little weed or your little cigarette. I'm getting my shot right now. I got my shot right now for the day. This resetted me, it gave me more things to think about, it keeps me on my path. Yeah, I certain people need certain things to help them cope with you know, whatever it is in life that they're dealing with. And I'm one of them people. This is a great form of reality and uh measures to me, you know, it's not just me up here. You know, we all just get the the to me, it keeps me grounded. I'll be leaving out this joint, like, damn. And I hear what you're saying, I'm like, I'm I'm gonna be thinking about this later on tonight. I'm like, man, this nigga was whoo. Yeah, I don't want none of this action, cuz.

SPEAKER_08 1:47:38

But Girby said he opened up, he don't open up for nobody. He made him feel comfortable, yeah.

SPEAKER_09 1:47:44

Yeah, I don't be telling my business out.

SPEAKER_12 1:47:46

Yeah, you was like, Man, you know what, man? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a man, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_09 1:47:53

I told you this shit's this shit's for real. Yo, this shit ain't no this like shit that could go to the street. You feel me? Even me talking about situations that happened in jail, right? Like, my story is not fake. This shit is for real. Yeah, niggas is commenting and and and ain't they was there, yeah. You feel me? So it's like even just opening up talking, it's stories that I don't even tell right on my drone. I got stories that I don't tell because I know it's gonna touch certain people.

SPEAKER_12 1:48:17

It's gonna ruffle some feathers, yeah.

SPEAKER_09 1:48:18

You feel me? Might activate a nigga and stir some old beef up. You feel me? So I just opened up because I just want everybody to know, man. Like, whatever, whatever I'm here for, whatever my story is, I'm just here to let y'all know. Like, stay the fuck away from that place, stay out of the streets. You feel me?

SPEAKER_12 1:48:34

Again, man, like I said, man, we already wrap up again. Anything, man. That huh?

SPEAKER_08 1:48:39

Slim gotta tell them where the people they can find you.

SPEAKER_12 1:48:40

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_09 1:48:42

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. My joint, uh, my joint GB Slim. I mean, that's just my regular page, my music page. I just dropped a song called I Ain't Scared of Hell. You feel me? Y'all know what it's about. Because while I was just in hell, we all was in hell before.

SPEAKER_12 1:48:54

And no, not all of us. That's why we're telling this story.

SPEAKER_09 1:48:58

Right here I'm talking about. Oh, well, yeah, yeah. That's right here. We was in hell before. You know what I'm saying? And it's just letting you know that it's a is a place on earth that's hell when it's jail. And uh another page GB Slim Stories, where I tell story times about being in jail. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_08 1:49:13

So we appreciate you for having you up here, man.

SPEAKER_09 1:49:15

We're gonna take some calls. Yeah, I appreciate it. I appreciate it.

SPEAKER_12 1:49:17

Oh, yeah, you will give me uh we're gonna take about 10 to 15 minutes of calls, man. We're gonna put the number up for you right now, man. Um, if y'all wanna uh call in, man, I'm quite sure all y'all still here tap them with us. I see in uh the message chat box. Um call up, man. Ask us, man, me dot man slim, man. Something that you may want to know. You might got a loved one that you know been locked up or biz is going to jail and can't duck, because that's a reality, man. Some of some well, I ain't gonna say us because I ain't going to jail. I I could I I think I could go ahead and exclude myself unless a motherfucker put you break in my house, do something my immediate like my brother could get knocked out out there right now. I'm like, cuz you ain't trying to rumble that nigga again, bro. Like Like, come on, you a grown man, bro. Like, come on, everybody got the, you know, we put our own worker in around here now, man. Yeah. You know what was crazy for me one day, man, when I came home that my man told me one day, man, and I knew I was a grown man. This one I knew I was a grown man. And I came home 40. What? I was 40, 41 years old when I came home. Damn.

SPEAKER_09 1:50:20

But this one years old. You older than 41.

SPEAKER_12 1:50:23

I'm 45 now.

SPEAKER_09 1:50:24

I'm duty laugh.

SPEAKER_12 1:50:25

I'm duty laugh.

SPEAKER_09 1:50:25

I'm jail due preserving.

SPEAKER_12 1:50:26

Yes. If I was never in jail, I'd be a sick crackhead somewhere. You talking about jail due preserving. But yeah, call in too, y'all. But listen, let me get this to you. This is when I knew I was a grown man. Or I was stepping into adulthood. My man. I'm calling my man one day. And he's like 45 at the time. He knew he is. Buck, shout out to you. I love you, bro. Oh, let's take this call real fast. Sells and the gels, man. Who we talking to?

SPEAKER_14 1:50:57

What's going on, fellas? It's Chuck calling from North. How y'all feel?

SPEAKER_12 1:51:00

Man, what's up, Chuck? You said Chuck, right?

SPEAKER_14 1:51:03

Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_12 1:51:04

Yeah, Chuck, what's up, man? North stand up. What's up, man? What could we do for you?

SPEAKER_14 1:51:08

Hey man, I just want to call in command y'all, man. Y'all doing a hell of a job up there, man.

SPEAKER_08 1:51:13

Appreciate you.

SPEAKER_14 1:51:14

Uh it's good to get this daily reminder. Like you said, black, it's it's therapy for a lot of us, cause you know, we all come from them some crunchy backgrounds and situations, you get what I'm saying? So having y'all up here and bringing more multiple guests up there to share their stories, it helps a lot of people, right?

SPEAKER_02 1:51:36

Right.

SPEAKER_14 1:51:36

And I want to say something. For me, right, it was one time I was having a POV violation. As opposed to me taking the county things and getting hit with a bunch of conditions. So I'm like, I'm feeling my court. I'm like, you know, I'm trying to get high. I'm like, I think my kids on the street. So I'm going, I'm going to court in the courtroom and the DA, and I'm like, yeah, we're fucking in jail time. And I immediately raised my hand was like, oh, I was playing. I ain't no real criminal. I'm pretending. I'm trying to get a pocket joint. You can't talk there. I'm like, no, no, you can't talk. I'm like, you can't for me. Like, I think my kids are retreat. And that right there. I said, yeah, then you let me go home. I ain't never coming back in front of you. But at some point in time, we gotta realize like how y'all had to do y'all comma fortune and realize like hell not for you. You know what I'm saying? Some of us, like, I couldn't understand why dude was telling me to go upstairs as opposed to like, you know, do the right thing. Like going back home again. I I get it. Like, we all know the parole changes and set up. Like they try to get you in something so that you'll eventually come back. But it's like, no, I'm trying to get about this, no, I'm just depending. I ain't like I ain't trying to go up top and I ain't want no price of that. You dig what I'm saying? So like I just appreciate y'all because every day you reminded of what not to do. And if you do do it, what you what you up against.

SPEAKER_12 1:53:21

Yeah, yeah, and you better stand on it as a man too.

SPEAKER_14 1:53:25

Yeah, so like I said, man, y'all keep doing y'all's thing, man, and I just wanted to show some love, man.

SPEAKER_12 1:53:30

Man, thank you, man. We appreciate you. Thank you, brother. Appreciate that.

SPEAKER_14 1:53:34

All right, y'all. Peace.

SPEAKER_12 1:53:35

All right, have a good night. But yeah, well, I knew I was when I came home and I knew I was or had to be a man. I wasn't a kid no more. I was with I called my homie one day. Called him. Phone ringing. Now he's older than me. I come home 41. He gotta be about 44 at the time. It's a woman. But I I met his wife since I've been he got married and everything since I've been in jail. So I met his wife. Like, hear her. Hello? I'm like, uh, damn. I'm like, what book said? She like, oh, he in the shower. I'm like, all right, um, this is the first time I'm actually hearing a girl answer one of my homies' phones. Tell us the jails who we speaking with. This is paradise. Hello? Hello? Yeah, tell us the jails who we speaking with. This is paradise. Oh, paradise. What's up, man? Where you from? Where you calling from?

SPEAKER_13 1:54:31

I'm calling from Georgia. I'm from New York by way of Georgia.

SPEAKER_12 1:54:35

Okay, what's going on? What can we do for you?

SPEAKER_13 1:54:38

Oh, I just want to say right now, this is one of the best. I mean, I love all of them, but this is one of the best interviews I've seen.

SPEAKER_12 1:54:45

Thank you, man. I appreciate that, man. Slim right here. Slim is here with us right now. He can hear you. He can hear you.

SPEAKER_13 1:54:51

Yeah. Um you saying this is therapy for you. You know, and then from young bull saying that um his mom said he felt safe while he was in there. I could relate. Um saying Joe saved him. Because he was on perk. Everything about this interview.

SPEAKER_12 1:55:17

I mean, I'm glad that I'm glad that could reach you, bro.

SPEAKER_10 1:55:22

We touching people, man. Yeah, I appreciate that. Yeah. People listen.

SPEAKER_13 1:55:27

Yes, keep doing it, and uh I continue to watch. Thank you, man.

SPEAKER_12 1:55:31

Appreciate the support, man. You be safe and have a great night, man.

SPEAKER_13 1:55:35

All right, you have a good night. I'll be calling soon, okay.

SPEAKER_12 1:55:38

Okay. But yeah, um, yeah, so she hung up the phone. So she hung up the phone. My man called me back like 10 minutes later. So I'm like, damn, bro, like what's this, bro? I'm like, damn, you got your chick answering the phone now, bro. Like, dang, what's up, man? What happened to bros over? But I'm 41, 42 with this talk. I'm just recently, I'm like six, seven. I'm like you. I'm like six, seven months out of jail now. Had to do on this 21 stretch. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_11 1:56:06

You black is funny.

SPEAKER_12 1:56:08

Yo, for real, for real, though. See, that's what they're saying. So boom, he like, he like, fuck you mean. He's like, nigga, that's my wife, nigga. She got my kids. So I'm on the phone, like, and that's a nigga I respect. I'm talking about to the utmost, one of the big homies, big bro. So I'm on the phone, like, I'm like, what you mean, bro? He like, nigga, that's my wife. What you mean? Yeah, she can answer my phone. He like, you keep thinking that that young boy, you better take that shit back to jail. He's like, ain't nobody, that's my wife. So I'm sitting there, I'm stopped on the phone like this. He's like, what do you want it? I'm like, man, I forgot, bro. He's like, all right, you don't call me with that dumb shit talking about women answering my phone. But from that day, for what you sit here laughing, so that's why I'm telling you niggas nothing, man, because y'all laughing at me all the time, man.

SPEAKER_11 1:56:53

So funny, because he said, he talked about some bad bros over hoes at 40.

SPEAKER_12 1:56:58

Yeah, but he said, take that young boy to make this.

SPEAKER_11 1:57:02

I forgot. He said, What you want? I forgot.

SPEAKER_12 1:57:06

I'm just like kicking with you. Like, I'm like, I'm locked up, yo, bro. What's up about this?

SPEAKER_08 1:57:10

Scramble J.

SPEAKER_12 1:57:11

I got every yeah, I'm I'm cooked, I'm fried rice off this jaw. But I'm learning, but I'm like, okay. And he wasn't telling me like, yeah, nigga, I give a fuck about my good my wife more than you fuck you. And even if he was saying that, he wasn't saying, fuck, this is my family. Yeah, this is who I come, this is my family. This is why I got kids. We got a home, we married, we grown. Yeah, we like nigga, we hit it to the grave, bro. How long you think you're gonna be here? And I'm like, damn. He left that day. I was like, wow. And that that right there, like, that was my introduction back to society.

SPEAKER_10 1:57:46

She ain't even know how. He talking about bros over. Yeah, exactly, exactly.

SPEAKER_12 1:57:49

Exactly. He tucking me all in one. What you mean, nigga? That's my wife. I'm like, if he can see me, we gonna fuck. That me on some goofy shit, because now I'm feeling sorry. Because I'm wrong. You know what I'm saying? So I'm like, all right, you mean I see how that's gonna go, man. And and it's not even how that's gonna go. That's about life. You know what I'm saying? So it is what it is, man. You know, we we live in, we we we come out of prison, man. And for me, I had to make a couple, you know, I made a couple pitfalls. Cause I had to, it uh you I see that it's real now. Like, real, I had like I said, I had to go back for 18 months. Violation. That was the worst 18 months I did. I just did 21 straight. That 18 months was way worse, was 10 times worse than that 21 years. Because when I went back to jail this time, I wasn't a kid no more. I had an apartment, I had a car that I was paying a note for. I was I was pretty good. I got caught with a gun on me, violation, dumb shit. I got caught with a gun on me. Come here. What the fuck? You and you on parole. Oh my God. By the grace of God, I still bought though. No, I ain't sprang. I took a deal. I wasn't crazy. And I'm on federal parole. I'm in the county. They drop a detainer on me. I'm over there. So I can't pay bail. If I do pay bail, the feds coming to get me. They're going, I'm not going home regardless. I just lose the money I pay the bell for. Okay, boom. I'm sitting over there. I got David B. Mechak. That's my lawyer at the time. He takes me, I tell him, I tell him, listen, get me the best deal you can find. But like, listen, man, try to get me a lot. I don't want to go upstate. I just did all this federal time. See if you give me 11 half to 23 time to give me like 10 years probation. I don't care as long as I get out of jail. I already know I'm gonna have to do a hit over here by taking this bill over here in the state. He gets me 11 half to 23 months. I gotta serve that. No probation. Because basically I ain't been in trouble in 21 years. They they they they can't even see my last case when I caught my case in 2001. This is 2020, like, like, oh, uh 23 right now. The time when I catch my case. So it's like, damn, well, where the fuck you been at? Like, I've been off the radar. I've been doing time. The only reason why I've been off the radar is because I was doing a large prison sentence. But it's still to the and that was a federal sentence. So the state, like, who oh you ain't been in no trouble, man. Give me this level 23 for it.

SPEAKER_08 2:00:04

Single call?

SPEAKER_12 2:00:05

Yeah, is the is the number still up there, Fig?

SPEAKER_09 2:00:08

That look like it say we on a call now.

SPEAKER_12 2:00:12

Huh? Who? Oh, ain't nobody called right now?

SPEAKER_09 2:00:18

They said that's Doc Mike Slow.

SPEAKER_12 2:00:21

Yeah, that's Doc Mike. Yeah, they can still hear you. Yeah, call in, man. Call in, man, because you know, we got a couple more minutes before we wrap it up, man. Any questions that y'all may want to ask, man? And for all y'all that's, you know, asking about Tor Feek, man, Tor Feek is on a vacation, man. He be back soon, man. He's watching the content at a warming rate, man. He's over there handling things that we need to be done, you know, about the podcast. And me and Dot is over here, you know, we're in place with the backup crews. We got slim hair. We got we bringing you content at a warming rate. Like, this is not gonna come to a call and dark skin beauty, man.

SPEAKER_08 2:00:58

You be on here every day, man.

SPEAKER_12 2:01:00

Yeah, Dark Skin Beauty, how you doing, man? You alright?

SPEAKER_08 2:01:03

You always are.

SPEAKER_12 2:01:04

Don't nobody got no questions today. Don't nobody usually the phones be jamming. I can't get stop the phone to stop ringing.

SPEAKER_08 2:01:10

Calling, we're tall feet calling.

SPEAKER_12 2:01:11

Man, tough feet, man. Top feet laid up on vacation, man, over there handling business. He he's working on vacation. Crazy boy. But yeah, man, that was a uh a real learning joint for me coming home, man, to see that my man was like, yo, man. You mean you my my Tell us in the jails, who we talking with?

SPEAKER_00 2:01:36

Yo, what's up, bro? This is Malik from Orlando, Florida.

SPEAKER_12 2:01:39

Malik Orlando, Florida, shout out, man. What's up, man? What we could do for you today, man. What's up with you?

SPEAKER_00 2:01:45

What's up, bro? Just chilling, man. Um, but if I'm being real, I ain't even listened to the whole episode. I just got on YouTube and seen y'all was live, so I just wanted to call in. But um, yeah, man. I fuck with the show heavy. Like, first episode I seen was the one with Wallow. And then um, I went back and watched some of the episodes. I'm like, damn, bro, like this shit got like real good replay value.

unknown 2:02:07

Right.

SPEAKER_00 2:02:08

So shout out to y'all, man. It was a real good show, for real.

SPEAKER_12 2:02:10

Thank you, man. I appreciate that, man.

SPEAKER_00 2:02:14

Sure. Yeah, man. Uh all the way down south.

SPEAKER_12 2:02:18

What's the degrees down there right now?

SPEAKER_00 2:02:22

Yeah, right now it's probably like like right now, let me see. It's 75 degrees right now.

SPEAKER_12 2:02:29

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 2:02:30

Nice. 75 degrees right now, man. But shit. Summer coming up. It's gonna hit that 90. Yeah, probably close to 100.

SPEAKER_12 2:02:39

All right, man. Thanks for the call, then, man. Stay safe out there.

SPEAKER_00 2:02:42

Yes, sir. You already know, bro. Y'all too.

SPEAKER_12 2:02:47

Tell us in the jails who we talking with.

SPEAKER_02 2:02:50

God damn, it's crazy. I really got you on this dog. Look, this net star was, right?

SPEAKER_07 2:02:56

Huh?

SPEAKER_02 2:02:57

Hey, yo, man, look.

SPEAKER_08 2:03:08

Locking the sock.

SPEAKER_02 2:03:09

What you talking about? Yeah, the locking sock. But a razor is worse than both of 'em.

SPEAKER_12 2:03:14

You think so?

SPEAKER_02 2:03:16

I see so many razor drones, like they pay. I don't know, you haven't been upstairs, or state, they pass the razors out.

SPEAKER_12 2:03:22

So oh yeah, okay. See, I ain't see. I don't know. See, yeah, you gotta tap in, man. You gotta tap in where we can make everybody aware that think they want to be out there standing on whatever they standing on and think they got got it under control if they go to jail. Yeah, you mean put your comment, get get in, man. Huh?

SPEAKER_02 2:03:40

I tell my son I was talking about, you wanna go in jail? A motherfucker gonna tell you, drop and squad. He's gonna try to try to get flash like looky asshole.

SPEAKER_12 2:03:47

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, this all real rap, man. People laugh and giggle and wiggle, but this is definitely going on at a lawman rate, man. At a lawman rate, man.

SPEAKER_02 2:03:57

That razor is different. I think the motherfucker get hit with that rings and has his air with hanging off. That's it.

SPEAKER_12 2:04:03

That did just the just the just the visual that just and the rings don't even cost a dollar off camera.

SPEAKER_08 2:04:09

It's what it costs like 29 cents. Yeah, you get they pass out the jaws.

SPEAKER_02 2:04:14

You already know how to go.

SPEAKER_12 2:04:17

Nigga running down the hallway with that jaw just wiggling.

SPEAKER_02 2:04:20

You cover for that hand, say you if that if you're thinking, don't slice it. Hey, hey, if she can that toilet knife is a crazy jaw.

SPEAKER_12 2:04:29

What you say, what you say, homie?

SPEAKER_02 2:04:31

She can that toilet knife is a crazy jaw.

SPEAKER_12 2:04:34

Yeah, but yeah, that's the but but but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do in jail to survive. That's what dudes in jail have to do.

SPEAKER_02 2:04:48

But no, man, you gotta think it's good. We gotta bring up that razor. That razor is wow.

SPEAKER_12 2:04:53

All right, man. Thanks for the calling, man. Enjoy your night, man.

SPEAKER_09 2:04:56

Enjoy your night. Yeah, I ain't gonna lie, don't slice me, please.

SPEAKER_12 2:05:01

Tell us in the jails who we talking with. Hello, yeah. Tell us in the jails who we talking to. Hello?

SPEAKER_04 2:05:10

Yeah, I got two fights in.

SPEAKER_12 2:05:13

What's up? Who we talking to?

SPEAKER_04 2:05:16

Tiana.

SPEAKER_12 2:05:17

Kiana, where you calling from? Kiana or Tiana?

SPEAKER_04 2:05:20

Tiana, I'm from Sully.

SPEAKER_12 2:05:22

Okay, alright. What's up? What's your two questions?

SPEAKER_04 2:05:25

Um, my first question is why is it that niggas in jail, they got a good girl at home that's holding them down, pulling them down. Why they feel like they got cheat? Like why they feel like they need other females.

SPEAKER_09 2:05:39

We're gonna make some answer that. Hold on, hold on. So, how he gonna cheat in jail?

SPEAKER_04 2:05:46

Because he got multiple females.

SPEAKER_10 2:05:49

Oh yeah. That don't really change nothing, man.

SPEAKER_08 2:05:53

Like, you gotta think he in jail, he's bored, Keanu.

SPEAKER_10 2:05:56

Yeah, that's all it is. He just bored.

SPEAKER_09 2:05:57

That's not cheating. I gotta hold bro down. I want I I wanna keep it a bean. But I gotta hold him down.

SPEAKER_12 2:06:04

But is he cheating though? You think he's cheating by talking to other females other than you?

SPEAKER_09 2:06:11

You don't got all the time for him.

SPEAKER_04 2:06:13

I mean, but but what if y'all married?

SPEAKER_12 2:06:16

Oh, oh, you married? Oh, yeah, yeah. He out of pot. Yeah, he's out of pot. Have you seen you ain't see kind of see see you keeping out.

SPEAKER_04 2:06:23

Then he wants you to wait for him. He don't want me to be out here doing me. So I'm just supposed to just stop my life to keep holding a nigga down that wants multiple women. All right, so me and Joe. My draw is not to interrupt you.

SPEAKER_09 2:06:38

My drawing is this, right? I'm not asking.

SPEAKER_12 2:06:42

Go ahead, go ahead, get a game up.

SPEAKER_09 2:06:43

Get a game because she's calling for the information. Give it to her. I never asked no female to stop their life for me. Especially if I'm doing a lot of time. When I was doing my five years, I never asked nobody to not have sex. I never did. But they but they married those slums. We was married, if we was anything, soul ties with I'm not gonna ask you to stop your whole life for me. To me, that's selfish. Yeah. When I come home, you better not be fucking nobody. Feel me?

SPEAKER_12 2:07:16

Okay.

SPEAKER_09 2:07:17

That's how I'm looking at nobody better not pop up. Nobody better not say nothing. Nothing.

SPEAKER_08 2:07:22

How much time he got, Kiyana? Don't say it yeah. How much time he got?

SPEAKER_04 2:07:29

Um, six to twelve. We don't come home till 2023, wait. 2029. 2029.

SPEAKER_08 2:07:36

He got about three years left. Y'all was married before you went to jail?

SPEAKER_04 2:07:40

And he got four kids.

SPEAKER_08 2:07:41

So that don't got nothing to do with it. He don't trap his kids up. So you was married before you went to jail?

SPEAKER_04 2:07:47

No, he wanted to get married. We not married.

SPEAKER_12 2:07:49

Oh, you not married? You sit up here playing.

SPEAKER_08 2:07:52

Oh, you got married when he was in jail just recently.

SPEAKER_12 2:07:54

No, she said they're not married.

SPEAKER_04 2:07:57

He gave me a ring and all that.

SPEAKER_09 2:07:59

I mean, that's the energy people get when they're in jail, but I wouldn't ask you to hold me down. What's the second question?

SPEAKER_04 2:08:06

Um, what's the one on the right? Would you marry me?

SPEAKER_08 2:08:10

Me? Who talking about black black? What's the one that one? The head on?

SPEAKER_04 2:08:16

With the black with the black movie on.

SPEAKER_08 2:08:20

No, I ain't.

SPEAKER_12 2:08:21

Oh, yeah, she's talking about yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 2:08:25

Oh, man, you're trying to marry me, you're supposed to be married to the boys. Yeah, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_08 2:08:37

Oh, being tapping the tail for the gym.

SPEAKER_12 2:08:43

Yo, man, thanks for the calling, man. Yeah, man, get on the page, man, and tap in, man. But y'all ladies have a great night, man.

SPEAKER_02 2:08:51

No problem.

SPEAKER_09 2:08:53

Well, it's so much.

SPEAKER_12 2:08:55

But yeah, man, I love the I love the uh audience, man, the family man calling them with the love, man. Yeah, man, they just love they got, yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_11 2:09:05

I ain't seen, I ain't heard nothing.

SPEAKER_12 2:09:08

You know what I'm saying? And oh, and to feel keeping uh yeah, but yeah, man, I uh I appreciate everybody. We we appreciate everybody calling them, man, and supporting, man, you know, with the feedback and stuff like that. Uh it keeps us motivated, man. It keeps me. I know one thing, it makes me think that I'm being by me thinking that I'm being heard, it make me want to talk more. Jail call. Oh, a jail call coming in. See that, you know, the guys calling, man, you know, and stuff like that, man. But uh, you know, we're about to get out of here, man. Anything last, man, uh that you want to say to anybody or any, you know, you because you told where they could reach you all at, or any type of message you want to give at this last second before we close out. Me? Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 2:09:51

Oh, we're gonna call company. Tell for the judge who we got going on. Uh Dude Kabir. Hey, dude Kabir, what's going on?

SPEAKER_14 2:10:00

Hey, I wanted to see the uh young lady that you call.

SPEAKER_08 2:10:04

Okay.

SPEAKER_14 2:10:15

I did a long time. Um God. One woman might tell me some money, another one might tell me some money. That's all I really do about. We don't really do women like that.

SPEAKER_10 2:10:33

That's a few. Yeah. I d I d not got with women that I was, you know what I'm saying? You be with the woman you don't even think you're gonna be with.

SPEAKER_14 2:10:44

So another thing I want to talk about is what what determines how you do when you get out here is what how you do your time in there. If you in there running around playing basketball all day, playing checkers and check all day. You gonna be out here with you in there learning something, doing something positive, you gonna come out here with that same attitude. One or two things. It makes me better or make me work.

SPEAKER_12 2:11:20

I agree with that, man.

SPEAKER_07 2:11:22

That's a fact.

SPEAKER_08 2:11:25

We appreciate you calling in.

SPEAKER_12 2:11:31

But yeah, man, what you were saying, though, Slim.

SPEAKER_09 2:11:34

Yeah, um, like a lot of times you don't be with the girl you think you're gonna be with when you're in jail. That's the harsh reality of it. You know what I'm saying? Just because it's like everybody not compatible, and when you go to jail, you turn into a lover boy.

SPEAKER_12 2:11:48

Now you know they I they call me the love bug number nine.

SPEAKER_10 2:11:52

But I was in love with girls that I'd never be in love with.

SPEAKER_12 2:11:56

Heavy Chevy's and everything, huh?

SPEAKER_10 2:11:58

What? You did with everything. It is what it is.

SPEAKER_09 2:12:01

And you really think you love her though. Yeah, because you need that comfort. And then you come home and it just be like, damn, like you ain't saying you don't love her. But you might not love her on that. Cause now we gotta live our life together.

SPEAKER_12 2:12:12

Yeah, that's a whole different type of learning.

SPEAKER_10 2:12:14

And you might not be the person I'm trying to be my damn life with.

SPEAKER_12 2:12:18

You don't, yeah. Yeah, you'll one part of knowing a person is by living with them. I ain't gonna never know you fully until I live with you. Or unless we traveled together. You know what I'm saying? So you know. But yeah, like I said, man, you know, we coming to a close, man. Anything you got to say to the uh family, man?

SPEAKER_08 2:12:37

Well, we appreciate y'all for tapping in, man.

SPEAKER_12 2:12:40

Yeah, man. We got Slim up here again, man. He told you again, man. If you want something where to find you at again.

SPEAKER_09 2:12:45

Yeah, G B Slim. And uh it's G B S L I M. And then I got another page, G B Slim Stories, that I tell all my stories on. Y'all know I got some crazy ass stories, man. So inshallah, I'll come back up here. I'll tell y'all one of them. Come up as sure.

SPEAKER_12 2:13:03

Man, you know, you always uh uh invited and welcome at any time, man. I appreciate it. But you know, you know, tells us gels, man. We on multiple platforms, man. TikTok, Instagram, YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcast Music, man. We on all platforms, man. Holler at us followers, man, man. Keep motivating us. Uh and for the subscribers, man, we appreciate we appreciate y'all, man. But become a member, man. Help support, keep us out of court, man. Shout out to Old As Rider, man.