PROTECT THE CHILDREN: TALES FROM THE JAILS LIVE!!!

Tales From The Jails hosts speak about the importance protecting the children. Braheem Jackson opens up about his trauma as a youth and how it has affected his life as an adult.

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SPEAKER_04 2:23

Everyone knows that jail is a serious matter. Us here at Tells from the Jails, we are offering something special to anyone who is currently in prison, on their way to prison, and actually those who are returning from prison. We're offering consultation to anyone who's you know threatened with prison, in prison, and like I said, and who are coming home from prison. Uh we have Zoom consultations to help you uh with your prison bid. Uh for those who are going to prison and don't know about prison, don't know what to expect, don't know if it's going to be, you know, uh, you know, all these horror stories you hear, all these things. We tell you what exactly to expect. We give you consultation on how to deal with these difficulties of prison. It could be through Zoom, it can be in person where we talk to you in person. We do intense prison preparation. We also offer business management for those who are incarcerated. We also do post-prison consultations. So if you're ever looking for consultation, you want to know what's going on, you want to want to be prepared to go in, like you want to want to be prepared to come home. Contact Tells from the Jail. That's tellsfromthejail.com. Tellsfrontheil.com. You see it right here. Tellsfrontheil.com. Reach out to us today. First of all, I want to thank everybody who's been tuning in to Tells from the Jails. And listen, we need everybody to do something for us. If you really like what you see on Tell us from the Jails, you're really interested in what you see on Tells from the Jails, we need you to go to YouTube at Tells from the Jails and become a member. Subscribe as well, but also become a member. That way you can get updated on all the new content as we continue to bring you these uh amazing episodes. So we want everyone to go to Tells, go to YouTube at Tells from the Gels and become a member.

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As y'all heard him, go to YouTube at Tells from the Gels and become a member. We got an array of content that's coming out that you will be thoroughly entertained by. As you can see by the content that's previously been released, you're entertained by. So go to where again, bro? Go to YouTube at Tells from the Jails and become a member.

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YouTube at Tells from the Jails and please become a member. I want to thank everybody who's been tuning in to Tells from the Jails. Everyone knows that jail is a serious matter. Us here at Tells from the Jails, we are offering something special to anyone who's currently in prison, on their way to prison, and actually those who are returning from prison. We're offering consultation to anyone who's threatened with prison, in prison, and like I said, and who are coming home from prison. Uh, we have Zoom consultations to help you uh with your prison bid. Uh for those who are going to prison, don't know about prison, don't know what to expect, don't know if it's going to be, you know, uh, you know, all these horror stories you hear, all these things. We tell you what exactly to expect. We give you consultation on how to deal with these difficulties of prison. It could be through Zoom, it can be in person where we talk to you in person. We do intense prison preparation. We also offer business management for those who are incarcerated. We also do post-prison consultations. So if you're ever looking for consultation, you want to know what's going on, you want to want to be prepared to go in, like you want to want to be prepared to come home. Contact Tales from the Jail. That's tellsfromthejail.com. Talesfromthejail.com. You see it right here. TellstromThejail.com. Reach out to us today.

SPEAKER_02 6:25

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SPEAKER_04 7:09

It's Tells from the Gels. We're here live in Park as you will say. TNS, media group with the team and the family. Uh, got my counterpart here with me with the uh Mr. Braheem Jackson. You know, we got the staff here. Everybody is here on this Monday trying to uh you know get everything popping. So, you know, I want to make this statement as I always do. This is our statement that we always make is that we're not glorifying prison in any way. We're not uh, you know, making it like prison is a uh a vacational place to go and have a good time, like Disney World. No, prison is oppressive, prison is a place that you should not want to be. And our objective is to deter individuals from going to prison because we understand the hardships of prison. So, what's up, man? What's going on, man? Oh man, Monday, man. I'm I'm here.

SPEAKER_05 7:50

I see you here.

SPEAKER_04 7:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 7:51

I hope everybody out there made it, you know, made it through the weekend safe, man. You know, first and foremost, you know, you got to be safe in order to be locked up. When I say safe meaning alive. And you know, after being safe, hopefully nobody got into no, you know, dumb stuff over the weekend, man. Because uh, we be still seeing y'all about Tuesday or Wednesday if it's something you could get bailed for.

SPEAKER_04 8:12

I see James, he heavy in the chat. What's up, James? The flames. Shout out to Neif Buck, 316-716 Deuce, ND, I'm sorry, and Dave, and Dave Lassier. Hopefully I'm saying that the the right way. Um Diesel 18, who else is in here? You know, uh, yeah, yeah, you know, the Squire. There's gonna be more coming, just gonna be coming and join the the chat as well. So um, you know, we I want to speak to you about something. I don't know if we talked about this or not, but you know, it's something that just that just happened, right? And um, it was a guy, right? Who who just um he just chastised his two sons, I believe, right? Mm-hmm with a belt. For stealing, I believe. And uh I believe he got arrested. Didn't they arrest him? I think they arrested the guy for um you know beating his uh his kids with a belt. For disciplining them. Yeah. Um like he lifted one of them up off the ground, I believe, in the video and handling the.

SPEAKER_05 9:11

Well you've seen over he lifted him up off the ground and wore his little ass out.

SPEAKER_04 9:14

Yeah, yeah. So I believe the dad went to jail behind us, I'm not sure. But for me, looking at the situation, I think that's the problem with um society nowadays. I think that people aren't allowed to chastise their children the way that they used to.

SPEAKER_05 9:30

Like back in the day. Back in the day, not only would you get chastised by your mom or dad or brothers, older brothers, uncles, the neighbors would beat you. Like your mom neighbor that's the Miss Esther, that's your mom girlfriend.

SPEAKER_04 9:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 9:44

Yeah, she she she'd get out there and jump on your ass. I'm talking about beat you. And then we this is what we grew up with. And then the generation before us. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So they they they they raised us with an iron fist, man. That's I like this to go ahead and say that, man. Like my mom, man, you know, she had our misfaults, man, her drug addictions, man. But when it came to, you know, her kids, she didn't treat us like her friend. She didn't have us in her business. We putting our giving our input off a conversation two grown people over there in the corner is having. We didn't do that, man. I knew to keep my mouth shut when my mom was talking to her friends. I'm quite sure you ain't sit there and butt inside your mom combos, did you? Nah. I mean, but this is how we was raised. This is what we was raised on doing. You know what I'm saying? So, with that being said, you it's bad, man. It's bad. Like, they if if they lock that man up, like, what do you do? How do you want us to discipline our kids? Because this is coming from the government now, because if they're allowed to lock you up and arrest you for certain acts of like how it is now you can't beat your kids, what how do you discipline your kid? Like me, I was like, well, maybe I maybe I'm old school or foreign or whatever it may be, but I'm whooping my son's ass, bro. I'm kicking him to sleep. Now I ain't beating him like a nigga in the street, like kicking him to sleep. Well, what would that mean kick your ass? Now I'm not talking about I'm not I'm just sitting in that manner, but I'm not talking about you know stomping his head in the ground and that, but no. But as soon as he woke up and went, yeah, I'm breaking him up. I'm breaking, I'm a grown man, I'm gonna break him up. He's gonna think about that the next time he ever tried whatever he did that caused that, he's gonna think about that and kick it the next time he wants to do whatever he did.

SPEAKER_04 11:25

I think this is the problem with um a lot of these young boys nowadays is that they're uh handicapping the parents more so than men. Like you can't even beat your kids. Like now, it it's a fine, it's it's a fine line. Like, I don't want to condone punching your kid in the face or even slapping the child in the face. Yeah, I wouldn't get it. That's really going too far. But as far as if you want to take a belt and chastise your kids, you know, and they especially if they stealing, because now you're breaking the you're breaking a bad habit. If stealing is a bad habit, a very bad cause get killed. Yes, or be in jail for a very long time. Because ultimately, these uh these are the traits that we talk about, the traits that lead to you robbing banks and shit, yeah, from you stealing. Yeah, and or or or trying to rob you know other people with guns and uh people walking down the street. That's the gate, that's the gateway to their hunger. That hunger, it increases, especially if it's not dealt with at a young age. It grows within it within the individuals. Now they become, you know, comes to them as like a second nature, whereas though stealing is like they just walk in the store and just grab something that's not theirs or walk out with something that's not theirs, and then it it grows into bigger and more vicious things, which could lead to them possibly even killing somebody for something that they want, you know, and taking it in a violent manner, and then your child is in jail, and he's being chastised by what? Oppression, or he's being chastised by these guards who's you know, locking them in a hole, or they or they'll beat him viciously.

SPEAKER_05 12:48

But you see, the state of the children, like nowadays, man, like I see it, man. You got some parents that, you know, it's good parents. Shout out to y'all, man. And the ones who treat their kid like, no, you can't have that, no, no, no. And then it's why, why can't get it from me? Now I'd be like, I'd be shocked watching these encounters, man. Yeah, I'll be sitting there, he's stomping his foot, I don't care, and smacking stuff having tantrums. And it'd be like, the parent is the child, man. What do you want? All right, come on, let's get him. Now he no, I'm not carrying it like that. Yeah, man, my son, man, I'm not carrying it like that at all for my son, for my daughter. No, because you got to embed it in these children early. You got to embed it in these children early, start early. Once you, because now when you let it go unchecked, and the older they get, it's gonna be next to impossible for you to try to, you know, tell them that this way of acting in life is wrong. No, they've been doing this until they was 20 years old. You got 18, 19-year-old men to be popping at their mom. You be popping, bro. Yo, man, yeah, I need a man. Or I wanted a car or something like that. You know, you got you got people that the the uh uh uh kids, they use their cars with no gas, bring it back, leave it empty, and all like how you doing that, like you think that no, yeah crash it up, yeah, crash it up, and they get mad when they when they can't get it again. Yeah, you mad at me because I ain't let you hold my car because you did something crazy. See me, boy. See, my man and and I'm again, man. I don't want to sound like I'm just this crazy lunatic, you know, uh person up here because I'm not. And you know, again, we I'm not I don't I'm not with the punching on your kids in the face and stomping them out and all. But what do you do? What do you do? I know what I'm gonna do. I'm I bet you them kids won't still again. What? After that beating they got. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They cool. They cool. They ain't doing no stuff, man. That was a that was a thorough way. Shout out to the pops, whoever his name is. Shout out to them. That was a thorough way to break through what you were trying to under explain.

SPEAKER_04 14:50

Yeah, he pulled them off, he lift them off the ground. I I don't know if y'all saw the audience, but he lifted the kid off the ground and was tearing him up, tearing fire to him. So, you know, I I think that, you know, this is what they need. They need as long as you're not beating them, making them bleed, and and knocking out teeth or you know, hitting them in the face. And if you get if you're getting that belt on the lower part of their body, you know what I mean, they buttoxing down, you know what I mean? They alright. They're gonna be okay, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_05 15:19

Man, I I know they're gonna be okay. All that other stuff, I don't be trying to listen. I'm going to discipline my kids the way I got disciplined growing up. My mom was fire me up, boy. Fire me up. All right, granted. I still went out and did the, you know, because the structure wasn't near after the discipline. You know what I'm saying? Because you can't have discipline of that nature, and then you go off and you run around, you getting high, you ain't been home in three days. Because now that that discipline that you just gave them, that that that's like, what the hell? Now, when you standing on business behind the discipline by leading an example that you want, that you trying to, that's why they getting this beating, you don't do no stealing there. You still there every day showing them the way it's supposed to go, that's when it'd be more effective. But when you beating them, like how my mom did me, or she gave me tough love, baby, but she still was dealing with an addiction. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? And she she be gone. She'll come find out I stole from the store, somebody, I'm like there. But now when she left out for two, three days, I'm like, all right, well shit. She she don't really care too much about it. No, you got that, because now behind that physical discipline gotta come the discipline of the verbal or the action. Because now I gotta show you what I mean, what we got what you gotta do. If all of them uh all of them ain't in place, yeah, you you still you still you still feeling.

SPEAKER_04 16:35

Yeah, shout out to Corey Wood 7162, shout out to uh uh uh Brainiac 2411. You know, shout out to everybody that's in the chat, man. Everybody's here. Now, when you have these situations, right? And you have these these parents or like the guy that we just seen who's chastising his children, um, do you think somebody like him cares about what the what the media thinks or or he cares about what you know these police think if they're gonna arrest him and so forth and so forth? Do we or do you think that he's just gonna continue to to uh raise his kids or or have they broken him or deterred him from actually doing it again?

SPEAKER_05 17:13

I don't know. That might that that that that can break you though, bro. Going to jail? Not break you, but it could deter you from doing it again. Just because you deterred from doing it again, that don't mean you're broken. So I wouldn't go far and say broke him, but now it's like, damn, if I do this, I go back to jail. I go or go to jail. And in his case, go back to jail because he's in jail right now. So now applying being released, he's definitely gonna go into that approach in a different manner now. Like, because they're gonna have to be disciplined. Again, the kids. The kids, kids get into some shit 20 minutes after you told them don't do it. So he's gonna have to use that now. Whether he still does it in his way, which I think is the right way, yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know if he's deterred or not. That's the question. I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 17:59

Make sure y'all hit the like button, y'all. Um, also, uh, shout out to Kwan, New Jersey, 1972. What's up, man? Um now, the other thing we just saw, uh, which was a little a way, way left extremity. In Louisiana, the guy, the father killed eight children in the house.

SPEAKER_05 18:18

I know y'all know some of y'all, man, the family probably seen this, man.

SPEAKER_04 18:21

Happened, what? What last night? And then they killed him, I believe. I think he I think he got killed as well. They chased him and chased him down, they end up ended up killing him. Yeah, he ain't killed the mom, though. Yeah, but my thing is this. That's way he he he out of pocket.

SPEAKER_05 18:38

I only could come up with some type of shit. Well, and this is just my theory on what made him do this. Um, first of all, first of first, before I give my theory, ain't no excuse though. I don't give a pack. I know I said that. I wasn't giving him no excuse. I was giving I was gonna say a theory of why he did it. But first of all, if you feel that mad about life, why don't you just take your own self out? Why you ain't just take because you took yourself out, why you want to take everybody with you? Yeah, that's my whole thing. I'll be sitting here looking at these instances like you, whatever you're going through. If you feel as though that you would at this point, you're and I'm not I don't promote killing yourself at all. But if you're there, why you don't just keep that to yourself and do it? Why would you do that to the kids and then you go ahead and go too? I don't understand that. But yeah, no, my only way of, and I'm not saying this is an excuse for him to do it because he could walk away. It gotta be like a like like something the wife, wife must have disgoted caught, I don't know. I'm just trying to come up with it. But is that an excuse? No, that's not an excuse, but that's a insanity, that's a temporary insanity, especially if he all in with his family got you. See, he got eight, nine kids. So they all in. They in for real, they a family. Eight, nine kids. And for you to kill all your kids, like something, something, something didn't happen, man. Something something, something, something pushed him to the brink of like, ah, he snapped out. Not saying he right again. I'm not saying he right for what he did, but something went on there, man. And nine times out of ten, man, it'd be some infidelity in there, man, to make a dude snap, bro. And I'm not saying this is a excuse of why again, I'm not saying he this is why he did it in his cool foot. No, you should have. If that did happen, what I'm suggesting, he should have walked away from it. But I again I get it. Like, why are you gonna walk away from all 80 your kids? Like, you you a family man, you got uh numerous kids by the same woman. Like, you know how that joint goes, man. That's your family, man. Like, so it ain't easy for you just to get up and go. No, you know what I'm saying? And that's why they got the law temporarily insanity. You got a dude that could come in the heat of crime, the heat of crime passion, and come in there and they'll let you off, give you two, three years in the hospital. That that's why that's a that's a law in the heat of passion. You were temporarily insane. They they had they diagnose you by a doctor and say he temporarily lost his mind for a second. Yeah, there are things and instances that happened in your life, and you'll just go cuckoo for cocoa puffs for two minutes and then snap back. But what you did for that two minutes, he probably don't even know he did that.

SPEAKER_04 21:08

Well, he went on the run from the police, and um, the crazy thing about it with that hit that got me really is um they said one of the kids tried to exit the actual the uh residence, like try to get away.

SPEAKER_05 21:19

Like, saw it coming, yeah. And they from ages between the ages one and fourteen. Yeah, that's all the kids' age uh age ranges, you know what I'm saying? And that's like you run around just slaughtering kids. Your kids, not you know, no kid is good, but your kids, like damn. Damn, like dang, like man. I'm not giving him no excuses and no pass for what he did, but something happened, man. That's and I'm not saying that uh there is a particular something that can happen that give him no a pass. No, no, I'm not saying that. I'm saying something happened that made him lose his goddamn mind because that's what happened. That's what happened, man. Something happened. That triggered him. You never know, man. He probably found out them kids wasn't his. All types of shit be happening, bro. Probably would go and none of the kids, he well, none of them mine. Man, you've been around all this time. You got eight kids by this woman. Can you imagine that me? You got a lot of kids because you wake up tomorrow and you find all them kids ain't yours. Yeah. But would you probably say this is true? No, no, we're just coming up with theories.

SPEAKER_04 22:23

Yeah, so I mean, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 22:25

Just put yourself in his shoes for a second. You walk up.

SPEAKER_04 22:27

I probably won't kill them.

SPEAKER_05 22:28

All four, no, not your kids, but her probably died. No. I mean, shit. If I woke up, no, and I'm not, I'm not saying do this, but emotionally, I'm not that strong. I can't me. I'm I'm I'm man, listen. You gonna do that? If I woke up and I got five, six kids by this woman, and they ages between one and fourteen, so that means we've been in here for a minute together. One and four 14 years is being the oldest, and you know, put the money on with the baby. Because I mean with the 14-year-old, I mean the nine months with the so that's damn near 15 years. You know what I'm saying? So that means I'm invested. I'm invested, and I find out that these kids ain't mine, bro. If I don't kill her, I'm knocking her clean up. Yeah, and that's just it. And I don't promote hitting movement. I'm just saying because I'm going to lose my mind for a second. I'm not saying, yo, the woman and all woman go out there and cheating, all that, and all cool. Let her go. Let her go. You go, it's plenty of fish in the sea. But when you're emotionally invested, man, I ain't talking about just financially or you are mostly, mostly engaged in this, and you got all these babies with her. And this is just a theory that I came up with. That's all of because I don't know why he did it. He might have just gone cuckoo for nothing, but I got to give him some type of excuse, like, no, he did it because of that, even though it's still wrong. But okay, all right, boo. But yeah, if I woke up, bro, and I got six kids my and and somebody came to me and sneakily like, yo, none of them kids yours. I went, that's what none of them mind. Because I'm going to her. Like, what could you tell me? You had me believe all the all these babies ain't mine. Bro, can you imagine you sitting here looking crazy? You will go goddamn crazy, bro. You love them beautiful babies you got, bro. Yeah, I'm just saying. Can you imagine them not yours? Oh, we crunchy time. All right. Well, what I would do is Well, you hearing me off? What I would do with boy, that man over there crazy.

SPEAKER_04 24:20

No, I'm just saying, though. I would leave. I would leave her alone, but I wouldn't tell the kids though that their mom was like, I would just, because I would just leave because I know the kids would be is already gonna be messed up mentally behind it. So you gotta kind of protect the children, I think. I would probably have to bite down duty. It would be it would be a terrible, stressful situation I can believe that it would be hard to deal with, but I would just have to listen to it.

SPEAKER_05 24:43

Man, you faking like hell, Feek. Stop. Bro, if I woke up, bro, can you that you don't hurt my heart now? Yeah. If I woke up, bro, just imagine for the men, for the men right now, ladies, this is no, the lady, the for ladies' family, just let let us let us have the floor for a second. For the men, you with a woman, kids is ranging from one to fourteen. So that means you got 15 plus with this woman, right? You got four or five kids by this woman, all yours. You've been around, you know, whatever. And you find out they ain't yours, I am going to knock her lips off her face, and that's wrong. That's out of pocket. I don't, I don't tell, but the I I done went crazy. I done woke up and lost my fucking mind. Howdy's babies not mine. Y'all lying to me today. Come on, bro. You sitting over here acting crazy. You know, you got you got five, six beautiful babies. Let you find out one of them ain't yours. You be over here going crazy. I will I would have to understand. I'm you're gonna lose your mind, bro. You're gonna be riding around the days you ain't gonna be hearing no conversation. You're going, see, you're not fully placing the emotional in your heart right now. So when we get off air and you riding home later on, just imagine you looking over now, because now come the other part. Say you do chill or whatever, you leave her. You done raised these babies to 14, now they mine. They mine now. I gotta just keep them. But that man, that's another pill to swallow. Man, these ain't my kids. Don't let it come out. Oh, yeah. It was they they the bull kid, you know him. Oh my god. Oh my god, please, y'all. I know y'all like to say I'm crazy, but come on, man. Side with me, please. I done lost my goddamn mind. So she's gonna lose her goddamn head. Yeah, hey, but yeah.

SPEAKER_04 26:33

Yeah, I probably will be upset though, but I I'm just thinking right now, like I don't know how I might react while in the situation, but I'm just thinking how I'm just thinking about how I would want to react is I wanna just keep just protect the children as much as I can.

SPEAKER_05 26:44

Man, you see this boy, man. I just say y'all see this boy, man. I ain't saying it's gonna go that way. I've just said it's how I would go. Bro, you is going, yo, you gonna you gonna stop washing up, you're gonna be stinking. Listen, it's gonna be emotional. This is gonna be the biggest battle and test of your life, bro. Yeah, bro. I could listen, it's gonna be if that happened to you. Can you imagine? This show will be shut down for months. I'll be up here by myself. Y'all tall feet. Y'all know y'all gonna be saying, we're tall feet cat? Man, dealing with boy, he got the biggest fight on. Man, can you imagine you've been with this woman 15, 16 years? Y'all got six kids. It come. I just seen something like that, too. I just seen something like that. Like where's though he had like eight kids by the girl, and he went and did a test with one of them that he thought wasn't his, and then he was right. And then he's just saying, let me just check all of it. The older ones ain't none of them was his. Yeah, she wow. Bro, like that is it. Then it's a lot of it's a lot of backdrive effect of that. Is it worth it going to jail for that? Yes, because you lost your mind. It's not worth it to go to jail for that, but that's why they rule temporary insanity.

SPEAKER_04 27:46

Just imagine if you ain't got just imagine if you ain't got no money to get away from it. You can't get away from you gotta. That's that's the only place you got to live. That's the only woman you have to live.

SPEAKER_05 27:53

You're not gonna be thinking about none of that at the time. Once the the only thing, once you read them results, all the logic done left the goddamn earth. You're not thinking about you not having no money. You're not thinking about you only got a place to stay. You're not thinking of none of these things. Once you see negative, negative, negative, negative, all your babies, and you one of them dads that like you know how you is, you a good man, bro. I don't love you just because you my mind love you because of your character and everything, a lot of things, bro. I I want to uh give myself like some of your ways. You know what I'm saying? I honor that about you, bro. You will loot because you all in with yours, you will lose your goddamn mind.

unknown 28:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 28:38

But you you you every time you wither, because now, like I said, alright, say you do leave her and whatever, you take that route, but you still want to be there in the kids' lives. But you every time they come around you, it's going it that ain't gonna work. Yeah, you probably need some time away from everybody. But you're gonna need some time away from your own self.

SPEAKER_04 28:55

Talking about away from everybody. Boy, bobby. You might you might go and say, I'm thinking about it now. Yeah, it's uh it's starting to weigh heavy on me to hear you talking about it. I would probably need to go away from I probably would need to get away. But the thing about it is the person who can't get away, they gotta see that all every day. I can't even leave the house. I can't.

SPEAKER_05 29:12

He's gonna kill somebody or himself. Yeah. Bro, that's that that's a too much of an emotional pill to swallow, bro. Who this in this this family, man, like that man been there for they've been together. Each day that goes past, it grows on you more and more and more, man. Like, come on, man. Like, that that that that right there, man. That that that I couldn't handle that.

SPEAKER_04 29:32

So temporary insanity would be coming to play behind something like that. Yes. Just like walking and seeing somebody on top of your top of your way.

SPEAKER_05 29:42

Temporary insane. You got the you got the all the envelopes and all that shit, whatever the the results back, you know you probably somewhere.

SPEAKER_04 29:48

And you're confident, like these mind kids.

SPEAKER_05 29:50

Yeah, and you ain't doing no, no, you really ain't confident because that's why you're checking. You ain't really confident. You're checking because you had doubt already. That's why if you're confident, you never even would have checked. This lie would have continued to go on forever. So you had that doubt. That's what made you go about and to get the results. Now, when you get these results, me, I knew I'd be, I'm gonna be somewhere quiet. Ain't nobody gonna be around me because heart gonna be beating as I'm opening up the envelope. And I'm I'm going down all the names, all six of my kids' names. Negative. Each joint, negative, negative, negative. And by the time I look up, my whole face is gonna be drenched in tears. Bro, it starts now. I'm not even, I don't even know what I'm doing. I'm I'm I'm shitting and I'm pooping on myself by accident. I don't even know nothing no more, bro. You really come on, bro. Like, think about it, man. I tell you in this manner, and I tell the family in this manner where you could feel the gravity of the gravity of the whole situation, man. Like that that'd be crazy, man. If the I'm not saying that's a right to go out and kill somebody. I'm not again, I'm not saying that no, you could get up and leave. But man, bro, have you ever been there?

SPEAKER_04 30:59

I can't take care of them kids or nothing no more, bro. Shit, it'll be hard. Have you ever uh come across somebody in jail who like snap because of something like that?

SPEAKER_05 31:06

Um if I did, it was somebody that I didn't know about their case, but I haven't I can't recall me actually meeting a person that killed some people in the family and all that. No. Mm-mm. Yeah. I'm not saying they ain't in there. I I haven't ran across them and they've been in my circle in the jail. No.

SPEAKER_04 31:24

Yeah, you know, you know, you know, you're out with with thousands of inmates. I'm pretty sure somebody got something similar to the other. Exactly. If not that same type of would you, would you um, if he went on ahead and killed his his wife or his his kids, mother, whoever it is, would you be mad at him? Like, then yeah, man. Or you would you be like, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_05 31:41

He No, and then it's a scenario like I'll be looking at him like I'd be like, dang, well, what happened? That right there, I would understand. But I I don't, I, I don't risk, I don't respect it, but I understand it. The man lost his mind, bro. Especially if I'm seeing his character and I'm walking with him every day in the yard, and I see how you could tell if you if you're dealing with a piece of shit ass motherfucker, whether it be a woman or a motherfucker could only trick you but so long. Yeah. You'll see if a motherfucker is attentive and he he like in jail, you'll see dudes, I'm gonna gotta go call my kid, my son's birthday, you be like, damn, he won them good pops. He won them pops is dead. You got niggas in there that don't give a hell, give a damn about their kids. All they worried about is that girl and them getting out of jail. So you'll see a person's character and it'll tell you a little bit about them. But if I met somebody that killed this family behind, and that was the cause we talking about right now, none of the kids was his. I don't agree with it, but I understand. He I understand how one can lose their mind and go crazy.

SPEAKER_04 32:36

But on the flip side, if a person kill his his wife and then he goes to jail, the kids is ultimately gonna be affected because you're gonna be in jail for like at least a dub. Because mom is gone and now you're gone for 20 years. Well, what you mean? That's a whole nother scenario. You just pill a whole you just burned away. Listen, listen, listen what I'm saying. So a man uh uh pleads um, you know, uh uh temporary insanity, he he finds out the kid's not his, he go kill his wife. Right? Yeah, she's gone. And now he's in jail for 20 years, and the kids out here for their self-defend for themselves. Foster care. Well, yeah, we we we'll now they're affected.

SPEAKER_05 33:14

Well, yeah, my my my my kids gonna have to be affected. My kids gonna have to be affected. I'm sorry, y'all. Kill my wife, man, good woman going to work a day, and I know where he's at, and I know I can get him. Oh, his ass is good as God. You bet you're bottom down, and I'm not promoting violence. I'm saying if I was in a situation like that, and a person, me, Braheem Jackson, I would have lost my goddamn mind, nigga killed my wife. I got all these damn kids. I what the hell I'm gonna I'ma lose my mind without my baby, man. So, nigga, the nigga that did it, I'm coming to get your ass. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 33:50

No, no, I'm saying you going insane and then killing your wife. Oh, me. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, then and then the kids. Now you're in jail because you had temporary insanity. So now you're gonna be able to get it. Oh, yeah, well, yeah, well, well, well, yeah, well, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 34:04

So now the kids is affected. Well, yeah, yeah, yeah. Everybody's gonna be affected by that situation. With me, yeah. Everybody's gonna be affected. My wife did some wild shit. She affected because she did. I'm going to jail. The whole family is destroyed once this is out, bro.

SPEAKER_04 34:18

With me. Yeah. So that's why I was saying I would try to, I would just try to take the blunt of the uh of the burden of it. And you just be cool with it. Just so my kids have opportunities to see. Because it's gonna affect them if they find out that I would just I would just like to. Hold on, hold on, hold up. Hold up, but you still missing me, P. I probably would act like it didn't even happen.

SPEAKER_05 34:36

Well, that them kids ain't yours. I would try my best to make sure they're yeah, you you sweet as cake, grandma big. Ain't nobody going for that, man. You sit up here lying these.

SPEAKER_04 34:45

The only reason. No, I'm telling you, I would try. I didn't see I could do it. That would be my intention would be to try. To try to hold it together because ultimately I want the kids to be able to be normal. If I act crazy, now they're gonna be messed up. Now everybody's messed up. But these ain't your kids. All right, but I but I love my baby, my kids. I knew them all these years to be mine.

SPEAKER_05 35:04

No, everybody have turn, everybody have trauma. If that happens in my household, the kids is gonna be affected, I'm gonna be affected, and she's gonna be affected. I'm sorry, I'm a human being and I'm a love bug. I'm an emotional human being, and that's part of being a love bug. You can't strike me now. If I got me a little slider and all that, and I know what I'm dealing with, but we've been together 15, 16, 17, 18 years, and we raised that's something, man. You don't do that to no man, bro. Yeah, you don't do that, man. That means you deceived me four or five times and had a nigga coming in you and coming home, like, yeah, baby, I'm pregnant. All right, come on, we got another one. Yo, that's a different type of animal to deal with, bro. Yeah, sure. Can you really imagine I don't think you're really thinking about it, bro, for you to be this cool and calm and you a man of structure and got beautiful babies. Really place up, really think about them beautiful girls you got, and none of them is yours.

SPEAKER_04 35:57

That don't make you cleanse your teeth. Yeah, I'm just saying though. I'm saying my intention would be to try and just take the blunt of the other other stuff. Like even I just was going through some things. That's why I love you. I try I try to I try to just keep keep it where it's I just deal with it and don't show, don't let my family see what's going on. I just try to deal with it, you know, and it and it's hard to do it that way, but that would probably be my aim. Now I'm not saying I can make it all the way through because I gotta still deal with her every single day, knowing that she's out of pocket. So it might be a different way. So let me ask you that happened with you, would you stay? I wouldn't stay. I probably wouldn't stay. Alright, so the kids gonna be affecting them. All right, but the kids are they're gonna be affecting.

SPEAKER_05 36:37

So you still affecting the kids? You leaving?

SPEAKER_04 36:39

Where you going, Daddy? Is you telling them? No, I'm not telling them. I would just say You wouldn't tell them that I'm not your dad. Because you could I would you can parent, you can co-parent successfully.

SPEAKER_06 36:48

I'm not co-parent once I find out they not mine.

SPEAKER_04 36:52

You can you can't say that once you got a 10-year-old baby that you that you raise all day.

SPEAKER_05 36:55

Bro, like every time I look at that baby, I'm gonna be like, damn, man, this baby. And then not only like she's your kid. But but listen, but listen, this is what's gonna make me turn my face. If it was one toek, I could do that. You're gonna love the kid that you're listening. Let me talk. If it was one, one kid that came out and it wasn't mine, all right. It'd be it'd be still hard for me to swallow. Four and five. Four and five, bro. I'm gonna be enraged. I'm like, this woman just this, four and five. You ain't got pregnant. This nigga done piss Come on, man. I can't, I don't even know what to say, man. Bro, I'm sitting there first thing I'm gonna do, I'm gonna go home and look at all of them. Hey, dad, dad. I'm gonna be sitting there because my mom, like, oh, none of these is mine. Your son come to pop. He's 16 year old. I'm like, yeah. Yo, oh my God. Yeah, that's your son. I can't no, it's not. That's your son. And then I'll be looking at her and she like, say, she knows I know now. What could you? And then you leave, you leave. Yo, daddy and mommy breaking up. So y'all still don't tell the kids?

SPEAKER_04 37:58

No.

SPEAKER_05 37:58

You don't tell why this is a drastic thing to them. No, especially if you hold up, this is gonna be drastic for them. Like, dad, why you leaving mom?

SPEAKER_04 38:05

Yeah, because we have um, you know, uh, what is it? Um look, you don't even know what the fuck to say. What is it? They can't even, they got differences, whatever this got differences. We can't even we can't even agree with to be cool. Now the kids will be like, damn, y'all breaking up, but you gotta try to save what you can save of the children, man. You can't just be like, it's hard. You know what I'm saying? It's gonna take a lot to deal with that. A lot of therapy, a lot of phone call, a lot of late night. You you're gonna be, man. That's why I'm out, bro.

SPEAKER_05 38:38

I wouldn't even probably like I wouldn't even know. Look, look, you still sitting over there, sweetest cake, grandma bake. I wanna know. Tell me. Trouble, I don't want to know. So you he like the boy Ruben. Uh oh, this boy like uh I apologize no, no, no, not apologize. Like you can cheat on me. What's my man? You say you can cheat on me. I deserve, yeah. I just baby, I deserve. That's it right there. Yeah, somebody said that. Baby, look, that's a song. That's a song, baby. I deserve it. I deserved it. Like, you might as well. I forgot who saying who sang that, y'all. Baby, I deserve. That's him right now. I ain't saying. Hell no, tell me. I want to know if these minds, especially if like something came up to where do I heard? And I've been thinking these are so would you would you would you like say something came up? Like you got something like, yo, you know, she used to. I thought she was my. And then you're like, that's my wife. Like, yeah, I just wanna you you still wouldn't go see. Yeah. If I found it. I'm gonna want to know, nigga, because I'm gonna always be looking at him like, damn, you gotta be around these babies every day. Yo, this is that's a really emotional thing to deal with, bro. And I'm not saying that's not, but we don't know why that man did that. And even if that did happen, that was he's out of pocket for unaliving all them kids, man. Way out of pocket. But we're just coming up with scenarios and hypotheticals and stuff like that, but in stuff that really do happen. Like you see, the it's stuff you a woman will have four or five kids with you, and ain't none of them yours. And I'm not getting down on the women right now, I'm not saying every woman is like that. No, this is just a subject. That's it.

SPEAKER_04 40:09

But yeah, that's just it's just it's a tough, tough matter. Now, we're just talking about this because this the other as well, I'll say the outcome of this can be, you know, prison for the man. So he he's in jail. Now let's go to the aspect of prison. Now, he if he was to act like how you acted, and he goes to jail and tells this story, yeah, I killed her because she did this. No, I wouldn't go around and be telling nobody that. But men in jail, there's people in jail that have that we know heard about that killed their significant other. Well, yeah. So he's in jail now as he looked at as a as a as a sucker. Knowing his story, she cheated, she got this such situation, and you know, whatever the case may be.

SPEAKER_05 40:43

And I know the whole story like how we just now explained it. Yeah. I'm not gonna, I'm I'm gonna be like he lost his fucking mind. Yeah. Because I'm a I could I could damn near agree with him. She looked at it as like like a like a nut in jail. Nah, not for me. Not for me, no. I'm gonna be like he lost his mind, man. I understand I'm not saying it's cool. See, I don't want y'all to mix my. I'm not saying, but I understand, I understand this man could have because I'm gonna pick myself in his shoes and be like, damn, what the hell would I did if that shit happened? That's crazy. Four or five kids, and none of them yours. You signing all birth certificates, you stamping baby feet on the little birth certificate car.

SPEAKER_04 41:21

Got the feet tattooed.

SPEAKER_05 41:23

Oh my god, bro.

SPEAKER_04 41:24

The name tattooed on his chest, right?

SPEAKER_05 41:25

They not even yours. She's sitting back. I do what you think. You did it four times, and blamed all of them on me. Yeah, bro. Oh my god, go.

SPEAKER_04 41:40

No, yo, yeah, that's a tough, that's a tough situation, man. That's that's really hard. Because we see the situations where dudes have blacked out, women have done some things to them, and they have blacked out for less than that.

SPEAKER_05 41:53

Like, I'm sitting here thinking these, but like, and James Laflame, shout out to you, man. You're right, man. But I'm not, you're a better man than me, man. Because I love hard, man. I love extremely hard, man. I can love my son. I got a five-year-old son, man, and I will be devastated to find out that that son is, which I know is mine, but I would be devastated to find out that that little boy not mine. Like, that's my world, man. I could be doing a lot more. I ain't the best of fathers, but I'm a father. But I'll be like, dang, it that's a real, real trying. Like, you gotta be mad.

SPEAKER_04 42:23

Would that be the ice little cake for you? Like, I know y'all was talking about scratchy. That would that be the icing.

SPEAKER_05 42:27

I'll be like, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 42:28

Yeah, I'll be up here by myself before the show.

SPEAKER_05 42:30

Yeah, that'll be over. Black be going, y'all find me down Kensington under the bridge. Yeah, I mean, laid up with that thing in me, man. I can't do it. Nah, this is some man crazy as hell. It's man crazy as hell.

SPEAKER_04 42:46

But yeah, that's just the way things go, man. You know, it's crazy. So, however, people um are going through the situation. It was like a I don't want to speak on rumors, but it's just it's just crazy, man. You know, I uh I can't I can't see myself I the only I can see myself uh dealing with it the way I say it or attempting to do to deal with it the way that I said, Right, but I don't know if I will be able to deal with it the way that I said I would I would. I that would be hard, man. It's hard to deal with heart heartbreak, man.

SPEAKER_05 43:18

It's hard, hurt. I want to um talk about something that's that's in the news too, man. That's real crazy, man. You heard uh and it's been going around on the internet, man, uh some little rapper dude, D4 V5, has officially been David. Oh, that's what it is? No, no, but they call him D4 V5. It's David. Oh, is it David? Okay, all right, cool. You know that that's the little little the that's the new sayings of how they do names now. Yeah. Or has officially been charged with first degree murder with special circumstances in the killing of Cecily Ri Revis. He may face the death penalty. Like this man, this man, this man is charged, man, in first degree murder of a 14 year old child, man. She's 14 when she died? She was 14 years old, killing with 14 years old. How old is he? No, he's older. He a grown man. He is a super grown girl.

SPEAKER_04 44:09

What are they saying? That was his girlfriend?

SPEAKER_05 44:11

They were saying it was his girlfriend? Yeah, she was 14.

SPEAKER_04 44:16

Yeah, so they was dating. Like she they found her in a car or something like that. Did? Yeah. Like the car was parked. No, they say he muted. He did all types of wow stuff. No, but they found her inside one of his cars that was abandoned. He had like parked it somewhere and they went to go do something with it, and they found a body inside his car. The little girl body.

SPEAKER_05 44:32

She was missing for a while, yeah. Yeah, so uh yeah, that's sad, man. These dudes out here, man. It's uh it's it's it's it's it's bad out here.

SPEAKER_04 44:42

You listen to him, Kate? Well, before you listen to him, right?

unknown 44:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 44:46

Oh yeah? Okay.

SPEAKER_05 44:48

Oh he oh he's good?

unknown 44:49

He's good.

SPEAKER_05 44:50

Yeah, well, yeah, he's gonna be good in that penitentiary, too. These are allegations until proven guilty. But you know, sometimes, man, if it walk like a duck and quack like a duck, it's a goddamn duck. So shit, man. He he he in for a long stay if he did that, man.

SPEAKER_04 45:13

Yeah, she was inside like one of his cars. I think it was like a Tesla. Shout out to James the Flames. Yeah, it was a Tesla. It was parked inside like a parking garage or something somewhere, and they found it.

SPEAKER_05 45:21

The body was decomposed. Yeah. Yeah, shout out to C Dollar. Yeah, man. I ain't never that. That that that was that's that's that's crazy, man. You killed that 14-year-old girl. Like, what brought you to the brink of doing that? Now, now this right here, I I don't know why he did that. Now, I'm not saying I'm not justifying nobody killing kids or a woman, but the dude, if that happened and she cheated and none of them was his kids, and he kid, I see I I don't I don't I don't I don't agree with him doing that, but I understand, like, then he lost his damn mind. This right here, killing his fool. What the hell you do that for? Yeah, I ain't just going up killing her. If she cheated on me, sucked John John John down the street, I found all I'm out. I'm cool, I got to go. I'm gonna go ahead and beat the road up, but I'm not sending myself to prison over that. Yeah. And then he with a 14-year-old girl, man, he's a grown man. He's a grown, y'all saying they was in a relationship and all that? Like, like, like, like what you what you gonna get out of a 14-year-old? She she don't even know how to wipe her little ass yet properly. Like, you a grown ass man. Like, what can type of pleasures are you getting from this? Like, you gotta, she's around, she's doing all types of kid stuff and hopping around and pop sick with 14. Like, what the what what the how are you getting horny? How are you getting turned on to this? This is something you're supposed to mold and raise to be a conduct yourself as an adult. Like, this is not no grown person, man. You ain't 14 like her. He in his 30s and probably 40. He looked a little older on that picture. Like, you was a sick individual, bro. Yeah, he killed her. And then left the body in the corner that he could.

SPEAKER_04 46:53

So they say he killed her. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, but that's what they're saying. But he um he about to be um they charged me yet, or he or he got charged. Oh, Dark Skin Beauty, shout out to you.

SPEAKER_05 47:03

She said uh Dark Skin Beauty. Dark Skin Beauty, what's up, what's going on? She said it's it said he didn't want anyone to find about their find out about their relationship. Oh, okay. That's why he did it. Yeah, guilt. Yeah, he out of power. You shouldn't have been messing with no 14-year-old boy. Boy? Dummy. That wasn't a boy, it was a girl. I mean, uh 14, excuse me, yeah. That's why you said boy. I thought you was gonna, but yeah, a 14-year-old girl, yeah. Yeah, man, I ain't, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 47:28

Yeah, he um, yeah, he so he so he he went on ahead and so now he's he's a celebrity going to prison. We've seen many, many celebrities go into prison. He's going there for killing a woman. Celebrities have gone to jail for like guns and you know, drugs and you know, different things, but he's going there for killing a girl. Mm-hmm. And he that he would have problems. Now he's lines them with pork type draws on.

SPEAKER_05 47:50

Yeah. Let niggas find out about that in there. Let dudes find out about that in there. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 47:56

Hey, toffee my uh my juice over there, man. On the uh table over there. One of y'all please. Yeah, so yeah, he's now he's he's walking, he's gonna he's gonna be in trouble. How old was he? Oh he's 21. Who was 21?

SPEAKER_05 48:11

David, a young boy. Oh, oh, David only 21. Yeah, but she's still 14. Yeah, he's still 14. Yeah, that is that's that's still some what some some rape, right? Yeah, yeah, that you can't be 20, you 21. She's 14 years old. Come on, man. Like, you mean it's getting crazy.

SPEAKER_04 48:31

But you know, now he's gonna be uh charged and he's gonna be possibly booked. Possibly, he's booked.

SPEAKER_05 48:39

Oh, would you mean possibly stay in there?

SPEAKER_04 48:41

Yeah, right now it's it's just it's just um they have to prove that he that he actually did it. I'm pretty sure they went to his house and got camera footage from what I what I saw. They um uh thoroughly investigated this, so they have to try and find come with a you know uh charge and they decided to charge him based off the evidence that they got, so we'll see what happens in the outcome of that. But my thing is this though, man. Where's the little girl's parents at? Like, no, like you always go to that, but you're right. Like, where's her parents at? Like you you know she she come on, this is a 14-year-old daughter. You don't know where she at? Who she's dealing with, what's going on? You don't got you can't track her location. Huh? I hear you. Oh, they knew that she was dealing with him? Oh wow.

SPEAKER_05 49:32

Well yeah. Yeah, but he with it like like like James Flame said, man, they got a special place for him under the jail. Yeah, he's gonna be um he gonna be fighting for uh his freedom. No, he's talking about his freedom, he's gonna be fighting for his life also when he gets in there. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_04 49:47

Yeah, man, dude's gonna find out he's gonna have a rough stay, man. So what if he I mean what if he wanted them boys?

SPEAKER_05 49:51

He just turns to, you know, I mean, oh, but that's what he got to turn into. Jackson Jackson. That's what that's what he got to turn into. He better be. Because it's gonna be nothing but action on his line. So he got to turn into that. If he ain't vet, he done slid down a razor blade into an alcohol river. But you said it can't go against the wave, though. The wave comes too strong. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But no, but I'm just saying, if he's going in and getting out on dudes and going through the hole, and I mean, cool, but all right. The wave is definitely too the wave is mo the wave is multiple men. That's what I call a wave. Eight, nine dudes coming at you one time. That's like a title wave.

SPEAKER_04 50:21

But he ain't checking in. I like hang snitch. So I ain't tell. So y'all coming at me for, you know, but I did.

SPEAKER_05 50:28

Rapid, rapists, child molesters, and snitches is look is frowned upon in jail, bro. So who get it worse? Child molesters. Than rats. Then rapists. But rapists and child molesters is like the same thing. But the you coming in there with them pedophile and cases, bro. I done seen the dudes sit in the corner. They make dudes lick the floor. Lick the floor. Shut up, lick the floor, dude. But all right, I got it. Licking floors, clean the crack out, clean the crack out with their tongue. I didn't seen the crack. Clean the crack out. What you mean now on duty? What you mean? I ain't talking about the crack of nobody's ass. I'm talking about the crack of the corner of the floor and something like that. Okay. But uh a chomo, which is short for child molester, they don't get no reprieve, bro. They sitting there washing clothes all day by hand. You know what I'm saying? They making them walk like dudes be cooking, like we're cooking there with our bowls and all that. And you'll wash these bowls and all that when we done eating. But you come right to Chomo's cell. Everybody putting their bowls, dirty bowls in the cell. Yo, make sure my spoon and my bowl don't lose my bowl. Like they got it rough in there, bro. They got it rough in there, bro. They got it rough.

SPEAKER_04 51:29

What if you want to buck? Like, man, I'm not doing this no more. I'm tired of it.

SPEAKER_05 51:31

You ever seen them do that? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no. I ain't never seen them do that, but they're getting beat. They getting beat. They getting beat. They're getting beat off the yard. Oh, you ain't got to do it no more. We wanted you to buck. We wanted you, we've been wanting to beat you, but we ain't want to go to hole. Because you know, you get caught and all that, because you know they protect them in there and all that. You go to hold. But the thing is, no, we we we we want you to do this. And if you a coward enough to do that, you're gonna do this to your whole stay. But if you're bucking, this is what we already want to do anyway. Yeah, he he they ain't got nothing coming. Chromos is first. Rapers, I'm gonna go ahead and say rapers is nothing, and then rats. They're frowned upon. Them three right there is frowned upon in jail. A child molester, a raper, and a uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh what was you talking about? Chomo, raper. And child molester. Yeah, no, child molester. Child molester, rap, and a rat. And a rat, yeah. Yeah, yeah. They did three that's frowned upon in jail. So if you out here, you committing crimes like uh playing with little kids, uh raping women, uh, or even raping boys or whoever you raping, just rape, period, and ratting and gotta go to jail. Boy, you better not do it. If you ain't if you ain't ready for all that, you better not do it. Please don't do it. Please leave them kids alone if you're messing with kids. Because once you get in there, you gonna wish you ain't, you you're gonna be willing to give up your little weenie and anything. Cut that off me, please. You could take this, yeah. You'll take that, yeah. Yeah, I'm dead serious, bro. They get nothing but gas in there. When I say gas, that meaning your ass is getting lit up.

SPEAKER_04 53:11

Wow. Damn, that's messed up, man. So I mean, not messed up, but I'm just saying, like, that's just crazy. So they they hold stayers like that. Yes.

SPEAKER_05 53:21

They hold stayers like that. From jail to jail to jail. Yes, yes. They get no reprieve, bro. They get no reprieve. So when they come in, they gotta show them huh? They gotta show paperwork when they come in. No, but they they ain't gonna have no paperwork. They don't be a part of cars. Like, dudes, like you, you, you more so have like a lot of Caucasian people that's coming in there. Not to say that blacks or Puerto Ricans don't come in there with them type of cases, too, but majority of them be white boys that come in there. That be child. You got the little black older dudes, reverends or something like that, and they've been in the church, touching on little kids and stuff like that. Have you seen that? A reverend before? Yeah. You see all types, they'd be all fat sitting in the chapel uh all day long, down there singing the word of God and all that. And now they want to be uh uh holier than that than thou. Now you wasn't just like that out there when you was playing with that little boy. Now you in here, you you know a goddamn scripture in the Bible. And if you might because uh you ain't gotta be uh Christian to be one of them. You be Christian, Muslim, uh uh uh not that not that it's permissible in these religions at all. You know it's frowned upon in any religion, but it ain't just a Christian. It's everybody, everybody, yeah. No one's exempt from becoming one of them. I've seen all walks of chomos. White, black, Spanish, old, young, middle-aged, yeah. Yeah, yeah, it can go to anybody. It's a it's a disease, it's a sickness. Anybody that can feel comfortable with touching and corrupting the minds of a moral, of a minor, and feel comfortable. I'm talking about you in your big age, you grown, you know, for both men or women. Like you got because you got some women, you know. Uh I got a little sidebar story, man, a little quick story time, man. Back in the day when I was in foster care, I was about seven. No, I was probably about this between seven and ten years old. Uh, one of my foster families, they had some money, man. I ain't gonna speak on their name or whatever, but they they used to take us up Germantown. They had like three of us. It was three boys that they adopted. They had three of us. And they used to take us up there to drop us off, like because they'd go out on the weekends, all the grown-ups. And they used to have a friend that had a daughter that used to babysit us. She was older, older girl. And she used to pull my pants down and sit me on the bed. Pull my pants down. I'm the mind you I'm between the ages of seven and ten. She like 1920, right? And she used to pay me a dollar a minute. She she she say she'd tell me to look at the clock and count how many minutes. Well, not count, but to keep track of the minutes that she would, you know, she'd probably sit on it or whatever, or suck it or whatever. And I'm sitting there, she's raping me. I'm I'm but I'm too young at the time, and I hold this type of stuff in. But it it really ain't cool to hold it. I probably need therapy right now. But this woman was in here sucking my penis, man. I'm a little boy between the age of seven and ten. She we'll get done, it'd be like eight minutes. I'll be like, it's eight minutes. The whole time I'm just laying there with my pants down, thinking about the candy I'm gonna go buy after the money she gave me. I go buy, she give me eight dollars, I go get eight dollars in penny candy. This is back in '97. Excuse me, not 97, 87, 88. I go get, you know, back everybody, anybody that's a little older in their 40s or better, know all about that penny. The penny candy choose. There was a penny. You go take a dollar there and get a hundred pieces of candy. I would take eight dollars there and go get 800 pieces of candy. Big old bag of candy, but I just made that off of her fondling me, touching me, not just foundling, but committing acts with me. And that's not cool. She writes me. Even though it's a woman and all that, and we cool, we boys, I ain't got probably no trauma from that, but that still wasn't cool when I think back on it. Like, damn, she was 20, 21 years old when she was supposed to be watching us. And she'd take me to the bedroom and lie me there and have me look at a clock and see how many minutes she was just to pay me a dollar a minute and have her away with me. That ain't cool. You know what I'm saying? She knows who she is. Her name is Yoki Yolanda. She knows who she is. You know what I mean? She probably grown somewhere. I hope she ain't still doing this acting her big because if if she was 20, then she even older now. I'm 45. Or she might be past. I don't know. This because I left that foster family when I turned like 11, and that's like 91. So women too. Women too, man. Yeah, I mean, you don't think you're traumatized by that? Um, I might be. That might, that might, that might, that might be the it.

SPEAKER_04 57:35

Yeah, that's that's traumatizing, man. Like for that to happen. You know, you know, you don't think that you need some therapy behind that, man? I might. I might. Because that happened to you, and she was giving you money for that. Yeah. Yeah, that's not cool.

SPEAKER_05 57:50

You never told me that before. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got a lot of stuff that I ain't never told you that before. A lot of stuff that I've been through in life, man. Like my life is like, then what that's why I say this is therapy for me, also. Like, this is a form of therapy. I'll be like, I breathe a little bit better after I had these conversations and I share them with people, you know, to give them insight. Like, watch your kids, man. Watch who you're giving your kids to to babysit, you know, because you because you and your girlfriend gotta understand it. Y'all been friends for 30 years, but you don't really know her daughter. You just know her because, you know, your girlfriend had that daughter. But if she ain't, you know what I mean? You never know what people be thinking, man. You never know what people and this is what I'm ready to say is gonna be crazy. Because that was a rape. That was rape, yeah, right? But at least, and I'm gonna go ahead and say this, at least I wasn't, at least it wasn't a man that had me in that position. Still wrong, though. No, it's still wrong. I know it's still wrong, but I get to walk away with the thought, like, damn, at least it was a girl. You know what I'm saying? Because I'd have been even more fucked up right now if I was getting my dick sucked by a man back then. If a man was in, because you you got people that was getting they boys getting on boys. Could you imagine that? Like, like I'll probably be I lost my damn mind or something, or probably be, you know, a homosexual. I'd have thought that's the way of life. I'd have got older and black, all right, and kept on carrying them acts with other boys. I'm glad I ain't go through that. But I still was raped. You know what I'm saying? I just you know what I mean. It just is what it is, it's life, man. Y'all gotta be real cautious and aware when you send your kids because you never know what of the next person got truly on their mind, man.

SPEAKER_04 59:18

Yeah, it's messed up, man. And it's it's people out here who really continuously prey on children. Like it's people who really just uh look at your child when you when you got your child, and they probably would love the opportunity to harm your child. And it's crazy that these people out here, these people exist. Yeah, man. Yeah, bro. Yeah, bro.

SPEAKER_05 59:36

Like, you gotta be real careful with these people, man. People, people, I'm gonna give you one more story. One more story about, especially like try to hold on to your kids. Don't let them go through foster care, man. That's where a lot of shit take place, man. And foster care is a a branch of jail. Because you never know who you wind up with, man. And I had a family come get me, man. And they had like three other kids, too, that they adopted. And they had like some little money or whatever, you know what I mean? But or the government was supporting them to hold, I have a big old house where they can uh house the kids. And this family used to lock us in basements, man. They had three kids that was their own kids, that was their biological kids, and they had like another four boys, me included, with the other three, that was foster boys that come from North Philly, West Philly, South Philly, whatever, but they adopted us. They used to lock us in basement for days on in, man. Days on in. We seven, eight, nine years old. I remember this shit stuck with me so much that I remember it like it happened yesterday. They used to crack the door, and we'll be like, you know how if you didn't feed your cat that night, and soon as you go to your cat, the cats would come running from all over the house. They head, they know the sound of that bag. Yeah. I mean, they know the sound of food. That's how we was in that basement. Like when you hear them putting the key in the door, like we come scrambling up the steps. And I'm not saying it to make y'all laugh, it's some real live shit that happened. Like, we little kids, we dirty as shit down there. They would put plates on the floor of leftovers that their kids ate already for us. They put two, three plates. We be all eating that shit with our hands. I'm grabbing biscuits that have been bit into already, cold ass string bings and shit like that. And these was, they was reverends. I'm gonna go ahead and tell you, Reverend Smith. Reverend Smith, he knows who he is. They used to have Palm Sunday in a backyard. Like in a backyard. We they beat us with palms on Palm Sunday. I'm like, damn, is this how we supposed? They used to lock us in. This is how they kept the windows shut. They put nails in the windows. They nailed the windows shut so you couldn't even open the windows no more. We was living on the third floor over trial trolley trail over the trolley tracks, 206 East Mermaid Lane. That was real bad time for me. But I was young. I was real, real young. Like, that's not how you gotta watch your kids, man. I will never want my son to go through anything that I went through in life, man. And and and that that could have been a cause of why I was lashing out, why I went to prison and did all that time. If I ain't gonna say could have, that is that will that was one of the causes, besides poverty and wanting some money, you know. But living like that, man, like we couldn't even go out, like they were highless. Like the people come around and check on us, like we couldn't even say nothing, man. And people come in there with plates that have been aid off already the next day. I'm grabbing biscuits, biscuits bitten into like shit cold. It just straight out the refrigerator. This ain't warmed up or nothing like that. Then we just go back down the basement and just wait till whenever they want to let us out. Like nut shit, man. Watch y'all kids out there, man. What was it like down there? What was like is the beds down there? No, hell no. The dirtiest thing. What's we sleeping on? The floor. No, nothing. They down there, you got the heater drawn on. We get near that. It was always hot as shit down there. It wasn't cold, and just be just down there. They'll let us up. Yeah, that's it. Sometimes we're clean, you know what I'm saying? So, you know, you gotta go grab arms for that type stuff. But we kid, but we kids.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:51

You get them people, man. They out of pocket. Y'all lay on the floor, and I'm talking about this wintertime, summertime, whenever. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:58

No, you know, no, what kind of what kind of was it, carpet on the floor? No, no, but butt-necked, like a, like a, like, a like a cobble floor. I'll never forget it, man. Yeah, what kind of clothes y'all had on? We was uh we was kids. We seven, eight years old. You know, little bubblegum shit. What's the name of the boys you were down there with? What's their names? Uh James, Isaac, JT. Yeah, yeah. Where they at now? They grown men now. You seen them? No, I don't know. I ain't seen them in years. They grown. They grown. Yeah, they grown now. They grown everybody grown, went their own way. I don't know what's going on with them now. What type of activities do y'all do down there while y'all waiting? Nothing. We just sitting in there quiet, had a light off, just sitting there. Hours growing in. Yeah. Just sitting there. Every time we hear the key in the door, we be haul assing up the steps, thinking there's some more food or some shit. They'd be like, all y'all come on out, come get in the shower or something like that. Or go clean up the backyard. They had property, big old backyard and all that. Yeah, like people is sick, man. People is sick, man. And I went through that. And again, I'm happy because it gets harsher than that. You got kids going through that getting raped, man. Getting raped. This man ain't touch us or nothing like that. They used to whoop us all, but they treated us like animals, bro. They real kids used to disrespect us. You ain't allowed to walk in this room. Go over here. And this they kid. I'm like, what? We seven, eight. I don't, I'm, I'm like, what? But this shit is turning me colloused, though. Like, man, fuck the world. These people was supposed to be taking care of people, don't have no good intentions, man. A lot of people was fucked up out here, bro. A lot.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:27

Yeah. Yeah, you got a witch call, man. You gotta uh you might need to see somebody about that, yeah. That's your own crown crazy, man. That's a terrible situation, man. You know, uh foster care.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:42

Yeah, man. Foster care, man. Foster care is bad, man. You don't never that's why I say, man, make sure you know. You know what I mean? That's why you always talk to me about my son, man. You mean like I said, I'm a father, but I'm not the best of fathers. I gotta, I gotta work on that. And you always tell me, man, go ahead, man. Get your son, get your son, get your son. My son around my mom, you know, my baby mom got another dude. A dude like me, a dude that did over 20 something years in jail. I don't know this nigga. I don't know him at all. I don't know how he conducted himself around my son or what he may be up to or nothing like that. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_04 1:05:14

Sometimes women can be naive. Like, not not not I'm not just saying it's like to be like disrespecting the women, but sometimes women, they will introduce a man to their kids too fast. Oh, he cool, he's a nice guy, or not even uh taking a second to think. Like you don't know this person. You don't know these men, you don't know this what this man is into, and then these these be the cases where those stuff be happening where these kids be be molested, man. And then you wondering why the dad's acting crazy. Like seriously, because now if that's that happened to somebody's kid, and you now you you a target too. Not only is him, you too. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? And ain't nobody trying to hear nothing hear nothing about that like I didn't know. You know what I'm saying? But ultimately it's up to the men to get their children and fight for the kids.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:03

You gotta fight. Got to, man. You got to, man. For those who got kids, man, take advantage of it, man. Tighten up a little bit, man. Because one false move, man, something could happen, man. And then you'll blame yourself forever. Like, and then me, I just met my mom. My mom passed, man. Yep. Y'all know I told y'all about my mom passing, but when I met, I just met her three years ago again. And my mom, you know, she had that drug addiction. Bad, bad. But you know, these three years I've been with her, man, was a beautiful thing, man. My mom was cleaned up, man. You know what they say about crackheads, they the best hustlers in the world. So she stayed with cash all the time. She knows how to shake and bait. She just left the drugs alone. But, you know, I got a chance. A law gave me a chance to be with her them last little three years while she was, you know, she was there. She she took care of my son. She used to always tell me, I'ma do for him tenfold what I didn't do for you. And she, my son still, she's been dead now going on some months now. And he still got brand new stuff from stuff she bought him. You know what I'm saying? That my baby mom got, you know what I'm saying, stuff like that. So, yeah, I mean, watch your kids, man. Watch your kids, man. It's a whole lot, man. I've been through a lot of stuff, man. I'm 45 years old. And the the the the the uh the foster care system had me my first part of my life. I'm talking about from two, my mom gave me up at two years old. I done got the reports of how many times I went in and out of foster care and everything. So my first part of life from from from from two to ten has been with foster care. And then the next part of my life has been in the penitentiary. And now this third part of my life, man, hopefully, man, everything comes full circle and falling into place as it's supposed to or should.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:42

It just uh it's unfortunate, man. These are the things that's happening, man. I'm sorry to happen to you, man, as your brother, man. Sorry to happen to you because this happened to a lot of kids. Like it's like you said, I don't want to use the word it could have been worse, because you know, rape is rape.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:57

No, but it could have. That's a real thing. It could be that's why I just used it. It could have been worse. Yeah. I mean, I mean, if I had to pick how I would how how I would get raped, I don't want to be raped, but I'd rather be a woman. Well, goddamn, shit, it'd be even more trauma if I'm growing up now knowing that this nigga was sucking my dick for days on that. That's some wild shit.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:17

You you'll think about that forever. Yeah, and it may, and this is a lot of times why a lot of you know young guys are um homosexuals. You know what I'm saying? Because these things that happen, and a lot of times parents don't know. My nephew is a homosexual, yeah, man. I'm not laughing about it, but yeah, but it's serious though. Like, you are you all right, man? Nah, I'm joking, but no. No, but no, no, I'm not. It's a serious man. I was messing with my nephews. They're here, they're in here working, but no, but seriously, I I do have a nephew that's a homosexual, though. I do. And um, I think he was he was he was molested, he was touched, and um, so he he he walk around looking like a female. He wears a wig and he wear just like a woman. And it's and it's sad, but something happened to him along the way. I don't I don't we don't know exactly what, but something happened to him. You know, and this was happening to a lot of the young boys who really turned out to be that way. Something happened to them, which made them be that way. Now it could be because the dad wasn't around or wasn't available enough to for them, and they was always around his mom. But normally, man, it's just not normal for that to for them to be that way, man. Just not normal. You know what I mean? Yeah, I know that. It's not normal.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:38

You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_04 1:09:39

So yeah, that's that's that's unfortunate, man.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:45

Very unfortunate. There's a lot of people, a lot of kids going through the Icotty, man.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:49

You good? But no, man, um, it just like you said, but we got we gotta we gotta protect the kids. So the other thing, too, man, I just want to say this, you know, flip side with the girls. Girls are going through the same thing. Same thing, man. Even worse. Yeah. But it's it, but the thing about it is, you know how you said it could have been a like if a girl's been raped by a man, she can't say, well, it at least it was a man. You feel me? Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:22

Well, yeah, she can't know because she can't say it's messed up, bro.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:25

It's messed up even for me. I'm just saying that. Yeah, it's what I'm trying to tell you is it's bad. It's not no whether it was a woman or a girl. It's bad. Either way, it's bad. Yeah. Because you like me, you can't. That's terrible, man. Somebody's daughter or somebody's son is being taken advantage of by that by an adult. You know what I'm saying? That's just that's just crazy, man. Shout out to uh J Homie92 for the donation, man. Appreciate that. Uh it says uh he said, better days ahead, black. You got our support always, yeah, for sure, man. Got my support too a thousand percent, man. Yeah, we gotta you gotta talk to somebody about that, man. Because that that could be, you know, your trauma, man, that you got, and that's why, you know, we probably was up when we were kids, it was crazy as hell.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:04

Yeah, bro. And that and that's just I ain't I ain't told you nothing yet. You know, you know, like I say, I'm glad I wasn't, you know, miss mishandled by men or nothing like that. But I've been through a lot, man. Been chained up, whooped, man, going through them foster kids, bro.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:18

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:19

They bad, bro. They bad. Used. I was in the I was in uh I was in a group home, uh Carson Valley, and this didn't happen to me. This didn't happen to me, but I was going to get a haircut. The dudes used to cut our hair to cut our hairs in the bathroom, they have some outside contract. We kids. I mean, he in there grinding on the kids while he cutting, and and and I was ready to go get my hair cut. They caught him, they locked him up for that. But how long he been doing this? He came up every week to cut hair. He in the bathroom in the stall with six seven-year-old boys, man, just grinding on him, cutting their hair at the same time. But yeah, sit on my lap. You're supposed to sit in a chair and cut my motherfucking hair. But they caught him for that. Older black guy. Like, but this is the shit that I grew up around. Shot him in his head. Yeah, man. We I mean this is Carson Valley. A lot of people probably know about this, but this was like a group home where they houses all that. Like, that's a form of jail. Like all that, like you're not around your family, and then you know how that you know they got the days where the family families that want to adopt kids come through, and it's like like we slaves. Like, we all there, we sitting there, they put our best attire on. We can't eat all sloppy. We at the cafeteria tables, and you'll have couples just walking around and looking like, well, what's up with them right there? Well, this this boy right here, how his how his conduct ahead he cool, and you know, and it'd be a bunch of families, and they'll have that once a week, like hey Saturday. And you be like, damn, I hope I get picked today. Like, that's nutshit, bro. Yeah, like you know what I mean. But you know, some people gotta go through it, man. Maybe I probably wouldn't be this sharp with my mind if I ain't never go through that. But then again, maybe so, but you never know. I was forced to be sharp at an early age.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:54

Shout out to Hapoo Choo. I mean, how I mean, shout out to you, appreciate it for the donation. Thank you. It's greatly appreciated. So we're about to get to these phone calls, man. This phone line, man. Um the phone line is uh 215-316-4492. That's 215-316-4492. You got the line already? Yeah, man. If y'all want to call in, chime in and talk to us, man, today. Shout out to MPAF Assistive Care. If you're ever looking for home care or uh, you know, assistive care for your loved one in uh whether it's Philadelphia or if it's in uh New Jersey, contact MPAF Assistive Care. My guy Mark. They're the best in the business. Yeah, man. So yeah, y'all. Call in, man. 215-316-4492. That's 215-316-4492. Is the phone line on? Is the bill paid?

SPEAKER_02 1:13:51

Sheesh. Let me see.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:59

Yeah, man, that's just uh unfortunate, bro, man. Like, dang, young, I didn't even know that, man.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:04

Yeah, but you know, can't cry with spill milk, man. What I'm gonna do. We got a phone call?

SPEAKER_04 1:14:14

Huh? Gotta turn the voice card up young over there so we can hear the hear the hear the people, man. Yeah, man. We appreciate the uh uh the support, man. Make sure y'all hit the like button, make sure y'all uh become members if you're if you're not a member, make sure you subscribe. And shout out to uh glamour524 for the donation. Appreciate that, and thank you. That's my online. Tell us from the jails we speaking with. Tell us from the jails we speaking with. Ain't nobody on the line. Y'all mouth. Education. Huh? Nobody called in. Yeah, man, uh 215 316, that's the number, y'all. That's uh New Jersey, not not NY. Dark skin beauty. I know. NY is uh they have uh changed NY around a lot, man. As far as home care goes, I believe, but uh Empath Assistive Care is located in uh Philadelphia and New Jersey. So if you're ever in New Jersey, got some loved ones in New Jersey, need some home care, reach out to them. They are the best in the business, in my opinion. Huh? Okay, cool. Oh, uh she uh she's from NY. Chaos from the jail? Yeah, what's up? What's going on, man?

SPEAKER_00 1:15:46

Oh, oh, what's up? It's Cliff, man. How are you? What's up, Chris?

SPEAKER_04 1:15:49

Man, where are you calling from, man?

SPEAKER_00 1:15:50

I'm from South Philly, but I'm in the county. Yo, South Philly.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:55

Oh, yeah, you did? I probably uh probably gotta give us a give us uh some time because you know we got some uh Dot be trying to be checking the messages, but we get a lot of a lot of feedback. So if you messages, we'll get we'll get around to you, man, for sure.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:07

Yo, am I on am I on am I on as loud, Joe? Yeah, you don't lie, I think I can hear you. Oh, yo, you know what I'm gonna ask you, man? I'm a little older, right? And I know you ain't never had like no older guys talking. Like I'm from like the Holmesburg era. That's when they used to have the boxing in the jails and all that.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:26

You know what I mean? Like I boxed a couple exhibitions with like like that, uh, board named Paris Barnes, uh, back when B Hop used to come through, man. I think they need to bring that back to the young.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:39

Yeah, yeah. I mean, I don't know how they can do it, but I mean, all recreation is good. I don't, but just these jail systems are now designed to uh I think it's just more designed just to house individuals, man. They have programs in them in there for them, but the fighting, I don't know. They I think they do do boxing. Don't they young sometimes? Yeah, they do they do boxing, they still do boxing.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:01

Before I go, man, I gotta say what's up to my man Black, man. Listen, man. Yo, my heart hurts, man. Whatever you just told us, bro. Yeah, yeah, man. It's life, man.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:11

Yo, but it ain't supposed to happen like that. But you know.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:13

If you mess with you, we all mess with you, man. I I wait for y'all a little gathering when y'all have something. I'll definitely be there.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:19

Thank you, man. We're gonna have that soon.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:22

So get the time the live is always on, because I miss it.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:25

Yeah, we start right between five and six every day.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:29

Man, yo, appreciate you guys, man. Keep doing what y'all are doing.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:32

Thank you, man. Appreciate it. Yeah, y'all know the number 215-316-4492. That's 215-316-4492. I mean, but you know, man. Yo, go ahead, man. MVP uh leak one, call in, man. The lines is open, y'all. 215-316-4492. That's 215. Tell us from the jails.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:59

What's going on, fellas? Why are they coming out now? Uh not much.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:09

What did you say?

SPEAKER_03 1:18:10

How y'all brothers doing? We gonna listen. I'ma ask a question that hangs up. But black, I remember one time, right? You're on a situation where you said a young man got taken advantage of by a boy in jail, right? And a young like, I guess he fight for himself or something like that, right? But my question is, and the point I'm trying to make is you say show mode, rap, and rape is getting the hardest in jail. But when the boy took young in manhood, was niggas on his top, or did he get a pass?

SPEAKER_05 1:18:52

Well, see, see that see the jail shit is tricky, right? You know, rape is cool, but you know, see, he was in the state. He didn't he wasn't in the feds with us. He had came down on writ. Because he had caught us a federal case, but he had life in the state penitentiaries. So after he did his act, they took him back upstate. He was just coming down there to go to court. But the little case that he lost down there, because he got caught with some drugs in the state jail. So they gave him a federal case for it. And the, you know, the the his time in the state overruled that because he got life sentences. So they took him back upstate. But, you know, when a dude raped somebody in jail, man, like they they they don't nobody mess with them. Like he ran around raping dudes. Like, and then I didn't really see a bunch of rapes in jail. I can't even recall me even seeing, like, when you got that homosexuality stuff going on, it's because somebody won it. You know what I'm saying? Both parties are in a mutual agreement. I haven't been around like, yo, I yo, he just got raped. I'm like, for real? Like, I haven't really seen too many of them cases.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:55

So that so that that's more of a myth, like, as far as like dudes actually seeing it. And like, not to say that it's not a reality, but because I was trying to figure out, like, well, damn, if dudes can come in on the street and and and catch a beat down for doing it, how come the bulls and jail get a pass? But you just said that it's kind of like, you know, it's kind of like voluntarily in there. It's it's not really like boys not really in there taking people manhood.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:29

Yeah, yeah, no, boys ain't in there doing that like that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:32

Okay, okay, all right. Well, that's all I want. It was just a yeah, I was just trying to make sure I heard you right. That's all.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:39

Alright, enjoy your night, man. Thanks for calling in.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:41

All right, fella. Say to me.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:43

All right. Yeah, Joe is a it's a tricky situation. Like I heard that a lot. A lot of lot a lot of people who uh get involved in those type of activities, normally they want that. Or they're looking for that type of rec. Nine times out of ten. But like you said, it happened to the guy while he was inside his cell. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. He was in the cell with a with an M8, he fell asleep, or whatever happened, and that happened. Yep. Unfortunately, man. Don't forget to call on y'all 215-316-4492. That's 215-316-4492. Um, I want to hear from y'all, man. Got any questions for us today, man? Let's just talk about it, man. Because we gotta protect the youth. Gotta protect the children. We gotta protect protect ourselves as well. We gotta protect our children. Got to. Gotta protect them. Tell us from the jails.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:32

We're speaking with fellas in the rest of the trust. Uh they come.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:41

What's up, bro? What's going on?

SPEAKER_03 1:21:42

What's going on with y'all? Um, so I just wanted to touch in on the topic that y'all was talking about earlier with the uh with the women and the men. You know how a dude can lose his insanity. Um, just a quick quick story. I had a homie of mine. We went to high school together, he was in the 12th grade, and he ended up finding out his his old lady was cheating on him. We were 17, 18 years old. He finds out his lady cheating on a man come home one day. He smoked his lady, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to use that term now. You his um six-month-old son, and then put your own life. And that was just a crazy situation to have to deal with at the age that we was at, man. I'm just like, man, I don't even know what somebody could be going through to actually be able to turn that gun on themselves, not let alone themselves for the king.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:46

Anybody for real, for real.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:48

Yeah, that's a temporary sanity, man.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:50

Yeah, man. I hit home without talking about that. I'm like, damn, man, I still think about it like it just happened. Yeah, that was just that was just that was just a crazy job, man.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:02

Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:04

Yeah, that was my man. So I just wanted to call and share that, man. I let y'all, you know, I appreciate y'all. Oh yeah, beef.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:12

Yeah, what's up, man?

SPEAKER_03 1:23:16

You had something to pass you to juice. I thought you were clean off the sugar feet. No, this ain't no sugar.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:22

This is uh um, this it's called hibiscus honeys, like beets and stuff like that. It's just real good. No, no sugar.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:28

I just had a check, I just had a check. Make sure my boys are on top of me.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:33

Yeah, appreciate that, man.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:35

No doubt. Hey Black, what's going on? Brother, I ain't forget about you, my guy. What's going on?

SPEAKER_05 1:23:40

Oh man, I'm cooling, man. Cooling out, man.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:43

Hey Black, I appreciate you for being transparent the way that you are too, bro, because there's so many of us that that went through them same type of you know situations that you spoke about, you know, maybe not the same way, but we all we know people who got you know molested or or raped, and it's like you're too strong for speaking on that, bro. We appreciate that transparency, bro.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:09

Thank you, man. I appreciate that, man.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:11

I just want to one more question and I'm out of y'all hair for the day. When can we get that live show, man? We're gonna be able to do it. We're working on it.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:21

We're working on it, we're working on it, man. We're working, we're trying to find the uh the right, the right size venue for it. So we're working on it, man. And we're gonna y'all gonna be the first to know. We're gonna announce it on the live, man. Got a lot of a lot of uh uh things coming down the pipeline. It's about to get nice now on duty, it's about to get nice outside, man. And we're gonna have some some some some real real nice events and real things coming up, man. It's gonna be major.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:42

No doubt, man. I'm looking forward to it, man. I appreciate y'all again, man. Y'all enjoyed the ref. That's not why they come out.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:51

Hey, make sure y'all hit that like button, man. Tell us from the gels. We here 215-316-4492. Smile. You know, the thing is too, man, a lot of times people are afraid to come through and say and talk about their traumas.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:04

Yeah. You know, but but but you you can't see why. It's something that's, yeah, I mean, don't nobody be wanting to, you know what I mean? That's something that you want to try to bottle up and throw away. That's not something that you want to be sharing with a let alone with a psych doctor.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:19

Because like Well, with a doctor behind closed doors, sometimes it's easy to it's easy to express how you feel and express things. You know, sometimes, you know, parents don't understand the type of oppression they can put on their kids, man. And it's crazy, man. It's just crazy. Gotta be real careful, man.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:38

Absolutely careful.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:43

But yeah, y'all, the phone lines is open, man. 215-316-4492. That's 215-316-4492. So I want to talk to y'all before we get out of here, man. And um, you know, let y'all know that we definitely appreciate y'all. And the Tellism Jews is not here to glorify prison. This is real life stuff, man. You know, it just our goal is to, you know, help everyone to avoid prison and to save our children. This this episode was designed for us to open our eyes and try to save our children, save ourselves, you know, save the loved ones, people that we care about. Because, man, these, you know, stress and and and and mental issues are one of the main causes of death and people going to prison. Mental issues, death, I'm sorry, mental issues and trauma, it just leads to so many different things, man. So we gotta try to, if you know somebody in your family that's that's suffering from this type of issues or suffering from trauma, mental issues, man, reach out to them, try to see what you can do to help them out, man. Because we all need help on some type of level. We all have been affected in a lot of different ways. So, y'all, the phone lines over. Y'all want to call. We got a few more minutes. It's 215-316-4492. That's 215-316-4492. Neil, what you want to say before we get up out of there, young?

SPEAKER_05 1:26:54

Oh man, you know, everybody, man, like the topics today, man. Watch the kids, man. Watch the kids. If you love your kids, man, pay more attention to them, man. Not only from an aspect of them being taken advantage of by someone else, but you know, for their conduct, where they ain't got to go to the penitentiary. Because, you know, if you let things go unchecked, it's going to turn into a bigger problem, man. And hopefully it don't be deaf in jail that come get them from that problem.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:20

Mm-hmm. Yeah, y'all know once again this episode of Tells from Jail is sponsored by TNS Media Group. Um, TNS Media Group is uh looking to assist those who want to get into uh podcastings and whatever you want to get into, reach out to TNS Media Group on Instagram at TNS at TS Media Group, and they'll we'll respond and help you get your podcast going. Um wanna thank everybody for tuning in. Thank all everybody behind the scenes, uh the nephews. Um, you know, shout out to you, young man, for uh coming clean and speaking about your mental issues that you have and things that have hindered you. And uh hopefully, you know, you're able to shake free of those things. I want Thank everybody for tuning in to tell us in the gyms. We on all platforms: Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Instagram, TikTok, you name it. Don't forget to follow us on all platforms. Thank everyone tonight for all the donations, all the support, all the comments. Everybody in here, James was heavy in the chat today. He must have been off work today. Um, shout out to everybody else that's in the chat that's that's uh showing support as well. I want to thank y'all once again from the bottom of my heart for all the support. The live event is coming soon. Real soon. We're gonna announce it real soon. Thank y'all for tuning in. It's tell.