RALO PART 2: RALO ANSWERS THE INFAMOUS LOCK IN A SOCK QUESTION

Tales From The Jails Host sat down with Ralo from Atlanta. Ralo addresses the snitch allegations and how his relationships with other rappers have been compromised. Ralo addresses the new goals of rebuilding his neighborhood. Ralo speaks about his life as a Muslim and how he decided to build a masjid.

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:22

Let me ask you this. This would this would we got a famous question that we ask everybody, especially for the dudes that been in state in federal prison, right?

SPEAKER_01 0:30

That's raping.

SPEAKER_02 0:32

Well, well, yeah, the few that been up here on this couch so far have been, but you're right, it's not many that did it. But uh, because I've never been to the state, I've only been to the feds. Um I'm quite sure you've seen your fair share of violence. Dudes in there getting at it, fighting. Correct. State and uh feds, right? Right. Now ask you this. If you was into it with a dude in federal custody, right? Right. You and a dude, y'all having words back and forth, right? But y'all squash it. Somehow, some way, you know, dudes comment down, you squash it, you know, you believe he squashed it, he believes you squashed it. You know, you might go over and be watching some TV or something. You know, unbeknownst to you, dude, he really mad still.

SPEAKER_04 1:15

Right.

SPEAKER_02 1:16

And if he was creeping up behind you and he either had a choice of weapon that you can pick, either lock and sock or that knife, which one would you rather him attack you with? Why and why is that? Why is that? Why is that?

unknown 1:40

That lock ain't no joke.

SPEAKER_02 1:42

But I'm gonna let it just funny because a nigga gotta know how to use that knife. Right.

SPEAKER_01 1:48

A nigga got and then I gotta I gotta that lock ain't no joke.

SPEAKER_02 1:52

It made you stop to think about it again. I've seen a lock man telling the dude he he was black, he thought he was white when he woke up.

SPEAKER_01 2:00

I'm a white man. I'm serious. I done seen a lot put some shit to work like that.

SPEAKER_02 2:06

Man, that lock woo didn't man that lock woo nigga in prison up here, though. Yeah, that's why, that's why, that's why I asked these questions for the outside audience to be like, for these dudes is out here stepping and they think they're playing around and they might not never get caught by the cops. That's cool. I don't like what you do. We bring you this message at alarming rate to show y'all what's going on, not glorifying what's going on, but to let you know this is happening right now in there. As we speak, somebody's probably getting locked inside. They got a bunch of jails that they're building every day. This thing ain't planning on closing no time soon. I mean, wow.

SPEAKER_00 2:47

So uh being in in the feds, right? And you and you mentioned, you know, uh, you know, uh a lot of things that go on inside these systems, the prison systems. What was the biggest loss you think you took, like, you know, being in there?

SPEAKER_01 3:03

I say the biggest loss, I can't I can't I can't say one. I I gotta be able to put two to answer that question. Because one is um friendships. I lost a lot of friendships. I lost I I lost my little babies, I lost my my 21 Savages, I lost, I lost a lot of good people that I really love. I think I even lost Lucha. It's made me I lost a lot of good men that you know what I'm saying through this shit, cause if I wanna never went through that bullshit, because in my life I always had niggas that take charges for me. It's made me so like even in the feds, whenever the party came in the room, I made sure my roommate was a nigga that gonna take my phone charge.

SPEAKER_03 3:54

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 3:54

So like I think going through all that bullshit, they don't know. Like, like with me and you saying, well, I don't know nobody ain't gonna know what the fuck you're saying, because they ain't been now.

SPEAKER_02 4:05

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 4:06

And if you ain't been in no no emp no drug empire where you had niggas that were gonna take the charge for you when they came in them houses, you wanna know that nigga while we in their car, if he said that gun his and I said that gun his, that was our agreement. This was already said beforehand, nigga. You gonna take this charge or don't get in the fucking car with me. Or don't even work for me. Exactly. Or don't get in the cell with me. Whatever we doing in life, if I'm handling a business and I'm the man that's feeding the village, nigga, when it's time to goddamn stand up, you gotta stand up. Because if they knock the head out, the whole body fall. So I got to say, like, throughout that whole federal situation, my biggest loss to me was my friendships.

SPEAKER_00 4:54

And you think it came from because I I I know it's like a um uh I believe like a phone call, somebody had and they try to say that you was wasn't wasn't right. You think that that affected your your your your friendships and with the people out here?

SPEAKER_01 5:09

Of course. Of course. I mean I think that I think that now with you know other phone calls coming out with other people, yeah, and other um interviews coming out with other people like Thug himself, I think that that showed that to me the friendship wasn't really a massive friendship if you trying to say you cut me off for this, but you fucking with Butter Dumb and they did that. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So like I think that was what and I don't, you know, misery need company, and I ain't trying to brain throw it down. I I wish that shit wouldn't have never happened with him, period. But it did put a light on like nigga, it got to be something else you got against me because your man's and them really did that. Nobody, even in 21-7 interviews, and nobody was able to identify a person that Riley was supposed to have told on. It's mad even the person that they was trying to say I told on came forth and said I didn't tell on. It's mad man, I had nothing to do with his shit whatsoever. But yeah, I think that that what put that in and then the way he edited the phone call. You smell me, he edited. I'm saying I'm paying a nigga $400,000 to take charge because I was willing to do that. You see what I mean? And I ended up spending some of the money because it didn't go through. But I gave some money up front for it to even try to happen. I lost a lot of money after after losing all these loads, nigga, I'm fucked up enough. So I'm sending out my last money trying to get out of jail. Yeah, and then nigga was running off on me, so hell yeah, I'm like, hey, I gotta get out. Cause in my head, I'm like, when I get out, I'm gonna kill all these niggas that owe me my money. But I end up having to change the heart, alhamdulillah. I came home and I ran it up, God bless me. But yeah, that was that that that definitely put it in out.

SPEAKER_00 7:03

What about like, you know, we always we got this thing we talk about because a lot of times, you know, you can be in there and you can have a significant other out here, and the drama that goes on with them can devastate you too. Do you ever experience that, like, you know, being in there and you know, having significant other?

SPEAKER_01 7:18

I can't I can't ever ask no woman to do no time with me. So if I would have got anything above what I got, or even if I would because you know I stayed in trial, I stayed in um pre-trial for like four years. You smell me. So by the time I took my eight years, I ain't had nothing but two years left.

SPEAKER_04 7:38

You see what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 7:39

So like if perhaps I would have got my eight years the first day, I wouldn't have ever even thought about a woman coming to see me, visit me, no significant other shit. Yeah, I ain't finna do that. I wouldn't know that type of time. I I just can't stop or even be a burn on another person's life. So I leave that pussy at the gate.

SPEAKER_02 8:01

You better than me. I'm a love bug. I was in there crying like a mug. Well, my girl left me, and I had them near 40 years. I mean, I was but I was young though. I go in that joint, and you know, my thing is I'm all over the place, and then I really didn't understand.

SPEAKER_01 8:18

Nigga, you got 40 years. You supposed to cry.

SPEAKER_02 8:21

Well, listen, but the crazy part is I cried about her more than I cried about the time. I didn't care about the time, I was young. I'm 19. I didn't care about the time. I'm like, where's my girl at? What is she doing? Why is she entering this phone?

SPEAKER_01 8:37

I thought I lived the best life. I thought life was over with for me. Like, I thought this is what this shit comes with. Right. This shit comes with you getting a lot of money and you going to prison for your rest of your life.

SPEAKER_02 8:50

So that just makes that it hurts me when you say that, boy. It give me butterfly. I'm I'm cool, boy.

SPEAKER_01 8:56

That's what I was set up to think. That's just what I seen all my life.

SPEAKER_02 8:59

Right.

SPEAKER_01 9:00

So it went to me like, okay, I seen, I I respect the game. Like, nigga, I played the game how I go. Like, this is what the game was. Like, nigga, in every aspect, I played. I ain't never ran off on a plug. I ain't never got damn sent my plug to jail. When I got locked up, I ain't telling him and sent him to prison for the rest of his life. He actually died while I was in prison. But um, nigga, whatever it was in life, I ain't never go raw no nigga. I broke in a nigga's house to steal his dope to get back on my feet. But shit, even him, I want to get him some money right now. Exactly. But I needed some money. So like I ain't really did too much lame shit in the streets. So I respected the game for what the game's supposed to be. And um to me, that's a part of the game. You run this shit up, if you get caught, you know what this shit come with. And leave the drawers at the gate.

SPEAKER_02 10:00

See, we know that, but a lot of people, man, a lot of these youth, a lot of the youth nowadays, they don't know, low. They don't know, Why? They out here just doing stuff. As soon as they get the whim or get a, they just doing it. And then now they're in prison.

SPEAKER_01 10:14

I I learned like, to me, like I look at this shit like going to the feds taught me this. And um, I don't really if you want this shit, I get it to you. You smell me like, you gotta show me you want it. You smell me like what I'm saying is I believe that, okay, y'all in Philly, this is my Philly alliances. These are the kings up in Philly that I'm gonna deal with. So forth from Alabama, Louisiana, wherever. I believe in alliances. I'm still I'm still fucked up by the feds. Well, okay, we got this oath. This is what we do together, we're gonna make us some money together. So any white end or anybody in the in the way, uh wherever the fuck they think, really, I'd be like, fuck them.

SPEAKER_03 11:04

Right.

SPEAKER_01 11:05

Like, it's some young niggas out here that gonna do right.

SPEAKER_02 11:08

It is.

SPEAKER_01 11:09

It's some young niggas out here that we can put up on our wing and show them the way that'll take our place. Like, I don't even if if if if they on some more shit and now wanna listen and believe in what a nigga got going on, then they in the way. And fuck them. You smell me, like I ain't got my my patient got too thin. Like, I ain't dealing with no nigga that don't want to do nothing right in life. Whether he's young, old, because we got a couple old niggas on that type of time too.

SPEAKER_02 11:37

A lot of old niggas, if you ask me.

SPEAKER_01 11:38

So I can't even blame it on the youth. It's I feel like it's more youth that are listen than the old niggas that's in there.

SPEAKER_02 11:46

Absolutely. And I'm gonna go further. Is I was one of them old niggas, man. I came home mad at the world if it wasn't for my brother. My brother's helped me there all that time in there. I'd have gone back recently and just did 18 months for a gun violation.

SPEAKER_04 12:00

They could have correct me.

SPEAKER_02 12:01

Yeah, he paid for the lawyer for me. Off of stuff that he ain't got nothing to do with because I ain't got no patience. Because all I knew was back in the day and what we did and how we come up.

SPEAKER_04 12:13

Right.

SPEAKER_02 12:14

Even with this right now, to bring in the awareness all from him. I think the younger crowd need to have a person that they respect and look up to that's telling them the message. Because if they don't respect you, they ain't gonna never listen to that, man. And look, me, I'm I'm an older man, I'm 45 years old. You know what I'm saying? And I'll be the first one. Before I put blame on anybody else, I'll be the first one to take the blame first before I ever go away and start talking. Been like that all my life. But everybody got to know when is it when is it over? You get to that point, like yo, I I I'm right now, I'm cool. Everything legit. I ain't got to cut no corners.

SPEAKER_01 12:52

But I I think I think what that when I was in the feds, a nigga told me a wise man learn from other people's mistakes and not their own mistakes. And that's something that need to be applied. You smell me.

SPEAKER_02 13:08

Yeah. Yes, I do.

SPEAKER_01 13:10

I go up in that door. She don't know that code of that. But yeah, um, that awareness, and and I don't even, I don't even now in your aspect of spraying awareness as alhamdulillah, but me more so I I look at this shit like we reaching out to people that want the same shit that we want. And we're coming together and trying to put this shit together and linking up because our viewers should be of us. Like, like, like we should have the same motherfucking, like with all the motherfuckers that want to do the right thing in life, we should have millions of viewers that's looking at this shit over and over. I agree, I agree. Over and over, over and over. And even if you ain't giving you no money or giving you no money, just the views that they continue to send your way is helping you with your platform. That's how I look at it. So, like, because I don't even I ignore it, like I stay away from all the negativity and all the bullshit. Like, if I see some bullshit, I either go the other way or I tell them, hey, kick them out. Yeah, even in the dorm. If you come in my motherfucking dorm and you on some bullshit, you gotta pack it up.

SPEAKER_03 14:42

Yeah, you gotta go.

SPEAKER_01 14:43

I don't I don't got I don't got no room for bullshit, nigga. I just did too much time. I don't lost too many millions, yeah. That's just what I lost on the planes, and then I lost they took all my accounts, my cars, my apartments, my friend. Nigga, I took too many losses to even deal with trying to make a nigga do right. Okay, I come to you and I talk to you, and if you want to do the right thing, but you fuck up, then I still work with you. But if you study showing me like, man, fuck you saying fuck me and completely. All right, I saddle.