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RALO PART 3: RALO SPEAKS ON HIS END GOAL AND WHAT INSPIRED HIM TO BE GREAT

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Tales From The Jails Host sat down with Ralo from Atlanta. Ralo addresses the snitch allegations and how his relationships with other rappers have been compromised. Ralo addresses the new goals of rebuilding his neighborhood. Ralo speaks about his life as a Muslim and how he decided to build a masjid.

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SPEAKER_02

Yo, so like you like you just said, you know, uh a lot of times on like dealing with people and uh and trying to help people or any type of situation, when is it enough? Like like outside of you say, like, all right, if I keep trying to help you, you keep doing it, doing the wrong thing. Like, when is it a breaking point for you where you're like, man, you know what? And how did how did that conversation go with them?

SPEAKER_03

Like, I ain't nobody I don't be around nobody that um that we can't help each other. Okay you gotta help me help us. You smell me so like if y'all can't take out their trash or wash a car or clean the clean the fucking masjid or spinal life or clean up the masjid or help us cook or help us wash a you gotta do something. I don't be around nobody that if you on that type of time, I kick you out of my life. I ain't been around nobody that ain't trying to help me. You gotta help me in some type of way. Yeah, like you gotta help me help us. I can help you either I'm gonna help you and you on a higher level and I'm gonna help you get to that next level, or you're gonna help me. We gotta help each other, like man. I ain't with that. Or we can just pray together and asalam a legum. Yeah, you see me, but other than that, man, I ain't I ain't with that. I ain't doing that. I don't got room for error. I don't I don't got shit for you. No time.

SPEAKER_00

I respect it, I respect it. I'm sitting over here looking at you, round of applause. I need to develop that because I'm so much of a a comrade and been in jail so long that I just keep giving you chance at the chance of the chance because I I understand, I understand what you're going through and I the struggle, but just because I understand you can't drag me down with you. And I get it, and I got to take that format from y'all.

SPEAKER_03

But even if you went to jail over and over, over and over, what are you going to jail for? You going to jail for trying? Okay, you got caught with man. Let's just say you ain't got caught with a four-way. Let's just say you got caught with an ounce.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Or you got caught with a half ounce, or even a hunger slab. I respect you more than that nigga that got caught with a gun that went doing shit.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Standing on just standing on the corner with a gun on his head.

SPEAKER_03

I need I need somebody that's trying. Even if he tried the wrong way, he tried for her, tried to get something. I'm like, we ain't doing nothing. He tried.

SPEAKER_00

That's the whole thing in the nuts. So he tried. I'm like, man, I see y'all.

SPEAKER_03

With motherfuckers that's trying, man. Okay, if you slip up and you fall, I'm gonna help you up. I'm gonna try to pick you up. You might fall ten times, but you fail trying.

SPEAKER_00

Exactly.

SPEAKER_03

You ain't fall, not trying, man. I ain't well, you're gonna live a life for no reason. Yeah, hell no, God ain't put you here. God ain't put nobody on this planet for no reason. We all was here, one to worship Allah, and we all got missions that we got a purpose complete. We got purposes. Everybody. And it's on you to fulfill that purpose. And if you everybody gotta do their part, man.

SPEAKER_02

I'm pretty sure you deal with this a lot too, you know, uh being successful. And I'm not sure if there's anybody else in your family has who have reached the heights that you have reached. Uh, how do you deal with family? Like, you know, with the one, like you said, family is like always always like this, and and people just or get get upset with you when you family.

SPEAKER_00

You don't?

SPEAKER_03

I don't. I give them money. I send them some money if I can just afford to give it to them. But if not even just family, even a motherfucker that been around you all your life, that think they're entitled to something. Cut them out. Cut them out, cut them motherfuckers off. I got a couple of family members that like my uncle out here, my cousin, y'all seen here, that want that see the vision, they want to help me, and we can we can be prosperous together, but I don't owe you shit because you came out my auntie pussy. Like, oh you came out my sister's pussy, you don't owe nobody none of that. Like, we we gonna be victorious together, or we ain't gonna be together. Yeah, like we got shit to do, man. I ain't got no time to raise like but hell no, I don't give a damn who you is. My family is motherfuckers that's trying to help me, or or we trying to help each other. Yeah, like that's my family. I don't just that blood shit don't mean nothing to me. I mean, I'm doing a lot of love. I ain't gonna never cut out a relationship or the wound, but you're not finna drag me into the mud with you. That ain't finna happen. If you in the mud, I'm gonna try to help you get out of the mud. But if you started pulling me trying to get me in that mud, I said I'm gonna.

SPEAKER_00

Your body there.

SPEAKER_02

He speaks about something uh all the time too. He speaks about uh, you know, uh relationships relationships that are formed uh beside behind the prison wall are sometimes better than the ones you have on the streets.

SPEAKER_03

I tell you I don't that's why they call us the Chang A manager over here. But the reason why we got such tight-knit bonding, because like me and him, we probably be the best friends right now. We probably closer, even though they probably your shit. Me and him closer than you because we done been through some shit together. I told you. I told you. You smell me. So we understand each other, we down there can hug and cry. You smell me because we like we we bigger than blood right now.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, you smell me because like we've been through an oppression that a whole lot of people haven't and don't even know nothing. That's why we sitting here on this couch to bring the awareness of this oppression that goes on every day. Like when you meet a comrade of this nature, it'd be it'd be the feeling. You feel the energy. Would you move what you think when we just came in here? After we was done talking to you out there, and we came here to set these cameras up. My brother said, Man, you feel the love from bro, man. He ain't out there playing with us, man. He ain't out here just trying to look for a butt. Like you feel, like you ain't had to sit out there and do that. You you for one thing just to sit on the couch and we wrote. No, you come on, yo. You feel it, and that's the same thing with dudes in prison, man. When you I man, I got a lot of dudes, man, that you know I send a little couple dollars to when I have it. These dudes I never knew before I went to prison, man. I met them in Ohio, Pittsburgh, they love New York Deaf.

SPEAKER_03

They call G's. But Jeez, I love him to death. I met him in FDC Philly.

SPEAKER_00

And you met him in FDC Philly. See?

SPEAKER_03

Embrace me. I love that brother death.

SPEAKER_00

Come on, man. Like, that's a camader, like no other, bro. Y'all like they you you will share intricate things with like you get a celly and he's a man, you get to start talking about your problems, your kids, and stuff you would never even talk about with your close friend.

SPEAKER_03

I got one that just got locked back up, and then third, we was on the yard in Cumberland together. We was at LCI Cumberland, and he locked up, man. Every time I think about him, I want to cry. Because we was just in that cell, and you know you ain't had no band to come in out here doing what you did.

SPEAKER_00

I got a homie like that right now, I want to cry, man. But I knew him on the street, but he would just went back rust.

SPEAKER_03

I know that nigga from Canada Pray. I let that nigga use my address so he can come to Atlanta.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, see, that's how I beat.

SPEAKER_00

But that's how I beat up.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, that nigga my mama addressed me.

SPEAKER_00

Your mother address.

SPEAKER_03

That's how much I love that boy.

SPEAKER_00

Man, how did he laugh?

SPEAKER_02

Still love him. Y'all met in in prison.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, we met in F FCI Cumberland. We was on the salmates for probably about eight months.

SPEAKER_00

Y'all down there in Maryland.

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Ooh.

SPEAKER_02

Wow. So now that you're home, man, and you know, you you you're doing some some amazing things, man.

SPEAKER_00

Um very amazing at that. I put the big capital V. Heavy. May the Lord keep rewarding you and greeting you success. I mean.

SPEAKER_02

I mean I mean. Um you home now, and you've been home now, what, five years, you said? Oh.

SPEAKER_03

A year. I got out last July. Oh, only a July. July 22nd.

SPEAKER_02

And you come home in only a year and you left at the Maybach outside, and you know.

SPEAKER_03

How about that in the Halloween house? See, everybody thought I was out. Everybody thought I was out, but I was in the Halloween house a year.

SPEAKER_02

Wow.

SPEAKER_03

Uh I got out July last year.

SPEAKER_02

So you come into the Hallway House in the Maybach. You know, and that was the stupidest shit I ever did though. Why you say that?

SPEAKER_03

Cause man, I bought that car brand new, man. You never supposed to buy no car. I I just was ready to pop it.

SPEAKER_00

You was home. You just coming home, yeah. You know how I go.

SPEAKER_03

I paid $280,000 for that car. That motherfucker ain't worth number $130 now. I lost $150,000. That was a bad thing.

SPEAKER_02

So you don't believe in leasing?

SPEAKER_03

It wasn't that. I just wanted some that I can have for myself that I can keep for the rest of my life and be like, I bought that when I got out of prison, out of that bondage. It's mad.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Wow. And now, and once again, I want to go back and say, like, now you're home now, and you know, you're doing you're doing a lot of good things here. A year. I I said the fire years, but you've been home for a year. And now you're home and you're still building. Right. Like, what's it, what's it, what's a, you know, uh Disney La, what's a five-year, ten-year goal for you like that when you see yourself?

SPEAKER_03

I honestly, I honestly. What I just did to over here building that plaza and putting housing on top of it, I just want to be able to do that template in multiple states. And so, me get on that private jet with weed, I just want to go to get on my private jet and go to your village and go to the next person's village. I just want to help build villages all over everywhere. That's all I want to do. I just want to fund villages. I look at this like a village. I look at us like kings, and I think that even when we go back to our ancestors and stuff like that, like that's what they did. They was kings amongst their villages and they helped each other. And that's what I want to do. So for the next 5, 10, 20, 30 years, that's what I want to do. I want to be able to utilize my money and go to other villages and just help complete them. That's what Elijah Muhammad and Malcolm X and all the other brothers did. They formed temples on every in every every place that we call them ajid, like like 70% of them was temples. And I want to be able to, um, I know they did a lot of shirk and shit like that, but I like that they brotherhood, they movement, I like that the way they struck shirt things, and and I feel like the Nation of Islam has helped us tremendously outside of their shirk.

SPEAKER_02

You know, you you come out with uh uh you've been out here for for a year. What has actually changed?

SPEAKER_03

What what do you see like all this this change so much on me being there niggas is niggas is in position to be bosses that ain't put in no work. You had to work for this shit.

SPEAKER_00

That was heavy, right? Say that again, man, because everybody never heard you.

SPEAKER_03

Niggas have been put in position to be bosses that ain't put in no work. We never respected a nigga that um sent a hit, like hey, go home in the business. We respected a nigga that got down and dirty and got in the woods and get got bit by mosquitoes and shit, and was patient enough to get they man or was patient enough to run this shit up, brick after brick, going from a nick to a dime, from a dime to a fittest live, from a fittest live to a hundred slide, from a hundred slide to a quarter, to a half ounce, to a whole ounce, to two ounces, to a four-way to a nine, to a half a brick, to a whole brick, to buy two, three, four bricks. Like them the niggas we respected that had that guaranteed ambition and hustle and went in to play with and still go stand on business and go in the sale and give any nigga one. You know what I'm saying? Like we we we I done seen what niggas got the car the keys to a car and they ain't even they driving it, but I didn't even put no mode in that motherfucker. You smell me like nigga, I you don't deserve this. That's how I felt. You smell me. Now I gotta respect this new gang that I think is lame. You smell me like, nigga, I don't respect the nigga that sent the shot. I respect the shooter.

SPEAKER_02

Well, so what what message, you know, do you have? Um, what would you have?

SPEAKER_00

Like, you know, the youth or people men, young men, youth, everybody. The message to mankind.

SPEAKER_03

My message, of course, you know, I want everybody to know that we was here and we here to worship our Lord, man. That's first and foremost. Put God first before your mama, before your daddy, for your baby, before anybody. Put God first. And then secondary, you know, don't be too proud for to help each other get to the next level. Like, it's gonna be some shit he needs to do, I need to do, all of us need to do in order to complete the mission. The mission ain't complete. We ain't even got them, we ain't even 20% in to what we gotta do as black men in America. You smell me. So, like, that's my biggest message. Like, get with get with some individuals that have a cause. Not no, not no fucked up cause of blowing up no building or selling no dope or or trying to goddamn do no dumbass shit. Get with some people that's trying to do something that's productive, productive and revolutionary. Be a part of a revolution, be a part of something that's bigger than us. You smell me. So that's that's that's my that's my vision. That's that's my advice. Like, don't live a life without fulfilling your purpose.